1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Serriti Life with 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: We are so excited that you guys are loving this 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: podcast as much as we are. And Rush is happening 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: right now for a lot of schools, so we are 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: ready to dive deep. We know people have been wanting 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: this kind of show for years, and we're so glad 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: that you're responding, calling in, leaving voicemails, and sharing your 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: own Rush experiences with the good and the bad. So 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: let's get into it. 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm Gia Judice, I'm jen Fessler, and I'm Daisy Kent. 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: All right, guys, So we've had a lot of people 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: calling in. Let's listen to our first caller. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: Hi, there, my name is Rosie. I want to call 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 4: in and leave them constructive feedback. Like Fessler had mentioned, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 4: this is a huge untapped market and there is a 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: lot of taboos about talking about the sorority experience, and 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 4: I think it would be super helpful if you all 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: talked about it from a nationals perspective as well, like 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 4: why we aren't really allowed. 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 5: To talk about sorority life and why we're not allowed. 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 5: Where are letters and the press and those types of things. 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: And then also there was some lingo that I think 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 5: if we could break down a little bit better, like 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 5: what a press actually is, what a bid actually is, 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 5: what a pledge is, what a mixer is, those very 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: things that we talk about in the sorority world. And 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: I think it would be just really helpful for the 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 5: girls in terms of how to make an informed decision 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 5: about joining sorority life or not. 32 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 6: And of course it. 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: Goes campus to campus, is not a one size fits 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 5: all approach. But if you are Teresa, Judice. 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 6: Or and you know a mama or dad that is 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 6: new to the sorority life or girl that's new to 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 6: sorority life, what that looks like for you. And I 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 6: think giving these behind the scenes facts is so helpful 39 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 6: for women that are that are thinking about joining this experience. 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot okay, dirty rushing. 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: I thought it was sort of now, not when I 42 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: was going through it, but when you rush before school 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: even started, right, And like that whole rush process I 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: hear in a lot of schools happens before rush. 45 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so my ver. My definition of like dirty rush 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: was when like kind of like playing dirty. So when 47 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: we were at Rutgers first semester, we would almost kind 48 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: of get recruited by a sorority who had interest in us, 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: but behind closed doors so kind of try to They 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: were basically trying to persuade us to go to a 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: sorority before the rushing process started, so that our minds 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: were made up before going through the recruitment process. 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: Okay, Mine was kind of like because we did recruitment 54 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: right when we got to school. I think we were 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: at school like maybe like two weeks and then we 56 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: went into recruitment. And so I would say ours was 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: at San Diego State. You would like go out to 58 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: all the frat parties and meet all the frat guys. 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: None of the like actual sorority girls could go out 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: because I don't know, you weren't allowed. That was like 61 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: your like dry period or whatever. And so you would 62 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: go and you would meet all these guys and they 63 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: were older guys like in the frats, and then they 64 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: would all tell the sorority girls like what girls they 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: thought were like cool and fun to hang out with 66 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Both were going to the parties, 67 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: and I had no idea that was happening. And then 68 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I remember when I was like sophomore, and I was like, 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this is crazy, but it was so fun. Honestly. 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Wait, that's a wild definition of dirty rushing. Having the 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: frat guys do your homework literally doing this sorority home 72 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: wark right. 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: I'm they were probably basing it off of something sort 74 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: of physical, that's just my guess. Yeah, fairly interested in 75 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: what you were majoring in. 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, probably. 77 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: What about you guys? What about this other lingal rogamma rogramma? 78 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Okay? For me, that was like when you get divided 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: into groups, so like you sign up for recruitment and 80 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: then say, there's a they have like a bunch of 81 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: ro gramma gammas. So I was with a group of 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: like ten girls and then we have one ro gamma 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: and she's already in a sorority and girl in a sorority. 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: You don't know what sorority she's in, but she's trying 85 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: to like help you navigate it and help you find 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: the best like place as the best like home and 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: fit for you. 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's in a sorority, but she doesn't have 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: any she doesn't try to influence you. 90 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: No, they can, like they're not allowed. 91 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: So there anyway. 92 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: No, No, you don't find out until the end. I 93 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: mean you'll try to guess who, like what sorority they're 94 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: in as you're going through recruitment, but they're basically in 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: charge of like little groups. Like Daisy said, my definition 96 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: was pretty much the same thing, except I didn't call 97 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: them rogammas. They were called pie key's My guys. 98 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: We didn't have any of this. 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: No, you didn't have someone like leading you and directing 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: you through, like to houses and stuff. 101 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: I mean, we definitely had people leading us through, but 102 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: there was no I don't remember talking to anyone, but 103 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: you know, the girls that I was grouped with, it 104 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: wasn't nobody was giving advice or you know, No, I don't, 105 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 3: And if there was someone, we didn't call them rogammas. 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: We probably just called them that nice girl who's helping. 107 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, it was so helpful. I remember it. I 108 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: forget the name of mine, but she was so insanely nice. 109 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, No, I mean they were definitely super helpful, 110 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: and it was so funny because during the recruitment process 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: we would all try to guess what sorority they were 112 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: from and what sorority they were in, and basically at 113 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the end they would all reveal which sorority they were in, 114 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: and everyone freaked out and like clapped their hands. It 115 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: was honestly kind of stupid, but I mean everyone, like 116 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: everyone got like so high, like learning what sorority they 117 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: were actually in and when they like revealed their identity. 118 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: But it was I don't know, some of the things 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: really made me make me say, yeah, literally. 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: Out where they're what other lingo I think she asked 121 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: what a bid was. 122 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so a bid is basically when you are wanted 123 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: by the sorority, right. 124 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so like at the end, I remember, 125 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: we got a little card and you like opened it 126 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: up and like that was my bid to be an alpha. 127 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 7: Fy. 128 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I guess technically during I guess, as 129 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: you get called back, I guess that's not really a bid, 130 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: but I yes, it's like when the sororities are also 131 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: showing interest in you that they want you back, so yeah, 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: hoping to get a potential bid. 133 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: At the end, for sure. 134 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: We're either one of you guys on exact boards, I 135 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: was you were. 136 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean one they say it looks great 137 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: on your resume, so yeah, is something good just to 138 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: have like under your belt. But you know, you can 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: obviously be the president, the vice president, treasurer, take one 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: of those lead roles on but they do take a 141 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility. So I wanted to do something that 142 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: was a little more fun and maybe not as much responsibility. 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: So I was Special Chair of Events, So I basically 144 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: coordinated like all of our big events, which I like 145 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: doing anyway. I kind of like party planning. So I 146 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: planned like our b Mock, which was big man on 147 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: campus for at Rutgers, and that was like our breast 148 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: Cancer Walk because that was our philanthropy breast cancer. And 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: so I planned b Mock parents Weekend and a lot 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of the bigger events that Zeta would do at Rutgers. 151 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: So that was a super fun, like little position to 152 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: have on the on the board. But I wasn't like 153 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: an exact because wasn't the exacts like that's like the 154 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: first here, and then. 155 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: I would there's like ones under it. 156 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was the ones like under it. But 157 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: then exec is like the people who are all sitting 158 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: at the front during your chapter meetings. 159 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did chair your rush chair rush Chair, 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, probably so fun. 161 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I I wrote all of these songs to 162 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: you guys probably don't even know West Side Story like 163 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: back in the day, but I wrote all when You're 164 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: a PI, You're a FI all the way, like all 165 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: of this, like the dances, and that was. 166 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: Like you were definitely a nice rush chair. 167 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, rush chair was, well what is it? 168 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: I mean back then I was rush chair meeting that 169 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: I was like I was in charge of like all 170 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: of the skits. 171 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, like putting together Yeah that's your little dances. 172 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's what it is, right, I mean I 173 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: start didn't do anything like I think. 174 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: It's also mainly now also like going through the social 175 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: media and the snagrams and finding your potential recruits that 176 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: you really want. 177 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: So you didn't have social media, you guys. It was 178 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: a whole different world. It was a group of girls 179 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: showing up a big group and us singing West Side 180 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: Story and hoping that they were going to think that 181 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: we were fabulous. It was just so different. 182 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so different with social media. I was 183 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: on an execue, I did panelnic delegate, so I like 184 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: went and met with the school and met with Panelonic 185 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: when they came in and talked to them. So that 186 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: was really interesting because our. 187 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: School to get mixers approved. 188 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like if you're you were on like probation 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: or something like that, if your sorority or whatever, it 190 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: was because you would show up to the meeting at 191 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: school on campus and and it would be like all 192 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: the other sororities there too, which it was fun because 193 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: I was friends with a bunch of girls and other 194 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: sororities too, so it was kind of a way to 195 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: like mix some mingle that way too, and you could 196 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: like pair up with a sorority and like do things together. 197 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: So it was fun. But I definitely like I always 198 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: knew like the tea that was going on, I felt like. 199 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 2: But then I also had to like do accreditation for people. 200 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: So accreditation was like I think a good thing about 201 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: sororities is that they like they make you do community service. 202 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: You have to keep a certain GPA. So I was 203 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: in charge of like tracking all of that and making 204 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: sure girls got the amount of community service they had 205 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: to do, making sure they were still at like a GPA, 206 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: and then making sure they went to like certain events 207 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: that like supported other philanthropies too. We did that, So, yeah, 208 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: that's what I did. 209 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it? Would you suggest it? 210 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 7: So? 211 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: I actually I wasn't gonna do it, and then they 212 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: like needed somebody and people were asking me to do it, 213 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, I guess I'll do it. 214 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: So a little forced, yeah, but honestly, I like, I 215 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: think that's kind of how I did it too. 216 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I can't see me like just volunteering on it and 218 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: it kept having more responsibility. 219 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. Do you know what I think is 220 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: the hardest job on exec is risk chair? Oh my god, 221 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: I know that's. 222 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: Where you I think from what I remember my son 223 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: because I think he did. Don't you sit outside of 224 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: parties for boy? 225 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: Is that what that is? And you can't kind of 226 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: you're just like you're in charge of like the girls 227 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: at your sorority. So if someone like is in like trouble, 228 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: or if someone like drinks too much, if something like 229 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: that happens, like you're the one, like people are always 230 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: like able to call kind of and at like pref 231 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: and like formals, you're in charge of like being the 232 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: one kind. 233 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: Of you have to be sober, Yeah, yeah, your risk chair. 234 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: You have to be sober at these events. And I mean, 235 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: of course, you know times maybe they'll sneak a drink 236 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: or too, I think, and you're always the bad guy. 237 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're always the bad guy. That's why I think 238 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: it's the hardest like one to be because you always 239 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: have to be like keeping ever. 240 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Only remember that for my son, like he'd be on 241 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: a cell phone like outside whatever party, Like this sucks. 242 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: I don't know why I volunteered for this. 243 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean because he probably had a monitor who was 244 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: coming in and out of the frat. 245 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. 246 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: It's not a fun not a fun job. 247 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah right, So any other lingo you guys, I mean, 248 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna. 249 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Come up with dorm storming dorms, which this is like interesting, 250 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: but like I don't think this was a part of 251 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: like my recruitment process. I think it was just the 252 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: normal thing to do when you were a freshman. So 253 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: apparently dorm storming is it's basically going from door to 254 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: door in your dorm or residence halls to basically like 255 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: interact with the people on your whole, like on your 256 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: whole and. 257 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 2: Just like. 258 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Kind of recruit them for recruitment, But I don't think 259 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: anyone ever did that. Like I think it was mainly 260 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: like for us going into my freshman year, it was normal. 261 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Like I remember I was setting up my dorm room 262 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: freshman year and one of my good friends was a 263 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: cheerleader at Rutgers, and she like just walked into my 264 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: dorm and was like, hey, so, like I'm a cheerleader 265 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: here at Rutgers and was like so kiddy, And I 266 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what is going on? But 267 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: she's been she was like at Rutgers all summer because 268 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: she was training and like practicing for the cheer team. 269 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: So she was like so excited when we all moved 270 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: in because she's like, I've been so lonely all summer, 271 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm so excited to meet new friends. And I 272 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: think it was just the normal thing to do as 273 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: a freshman, just kind of knock on everyone's door, introduce 274 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: yourself and kind of get to know people just going 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: into school. I don't think it really had anything to 276 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: do necessarily with recruitment. What do you guys think, I 277 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: honestly have never heard of that before. But but you 278 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: did the same thing right on when you were a freshman. 279 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: You kind of went to people's doors, introduced yourself, made 280 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: the friends of people on your whole one. 281 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: Hundred percent, and we kept our like dorm door always opened, 282 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Me and my roommate Christy. It's actually funny. Thor, my 283 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: boyfriend was my next door neighbor in the dorm. 284 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: That's so funny, and so you probably met him by 285 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: watch your boyfriend's name door. 286 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 287 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: I loved Daisy and Thor. That's like its own episode. 288 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about that. 289 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: I was like, it was funny when we were moving 290 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: in together because people were like, oh, how is it 291 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: like moving in together? And I was like, well, you 292 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: know when I was nineteen. He definitely saw me at 293 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: my worst and my best in the dorm room next door. 294 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: So I was like, I don't think I can be 295 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: most much worse than that. 296 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: He saw it all. 297 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: What about a suicide bid that was a risky thing. 298 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So that's like when you only I mean 299 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: from my knowledge because I remember a roguam like telling 300 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: us not to do this. It's when you only put 301 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: like one sorority. So say you're on pref preface is 302 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: the last night before you go to get your bid 303 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: and you have two sororities and I didn't want one 304 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: at all, but I wanted the other one, and I 305 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: only put like Alpha FY and I didn't put anything else. 306 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: And they know that then that they know that you're 307 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: like yeah, all. 308 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: In yes, because then if you only put down one 309 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: like during like on PREF day, like after you go 310 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: to the voting room and you kind of rank which 311 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: sorority you want from great is to lease? So one 312 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: two three and or is it two for PREF or 313 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: is it three? 314 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: Do you guys remember you mine was two the only. 315 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: Reason, so okay, so then it probably is, oh yeah, 316 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: because I prefed I think GFI and ZATA, so I yeah, 317 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: I think it is maybe two. And then if you 318 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: only put one sorority down and that sorority ended up 319 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: not choosing you, then you you get into nothing. So 320 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: that's why it's called suicide bid, because you could potentially 321 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: risk not getting into a sorority at all. So you 322 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: just went through this whole process and then you could 323 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: essentially like end up with nothing. 324 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: And I think it's because the sorority, I don't think 325 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: they necessarily know, but Panolynic knows. Because Panolymic, it's like 326 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: the sorority will put their bid in for you and 327 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: then you put what you want in and then it 328 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: kind of like matches up that way. But Panelmtic I 329 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: think hates it when you do just one. So I 330 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: think that that's part of the reason why too. 331 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 332 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: It's like I don't know how to extend. It's like 333 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: so much. I'm like thinking back to that time, I'm like, whoa, imagine, 334 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: imagine And I think, probably, Daisy, it was better that 335 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: you didn't know anything going in every way. Honestly, yeah, 336 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 2: I think I would have been like losing my mind 337 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: a little bit. But also I think San Diego State 338 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: like is not as intense at all as like other schools. 339 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: So I mean at first when I first went in, 340 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: I was like what am I doing? And then I 341 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: suck with it because my roommate and like, I'm so 342 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: happy I did. I ended up having the time of 343 00:18:47,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: my life. Let's in the collar, hi, Grace. 344 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 8: Another interesting element is I have a younger two younger sisters. 345 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 8: One of them went through Rush two years later while 346 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 8: I was at school, and one is going through rush 347 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 8: right now. But the interesting thing is that my sorority 348 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 8: actually dropped both of. 349 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 1: Them in the first You actually just reminded me of 350 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: something that I was gonna say to you that during COVID, though, 351 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: that was also of something that happened very often they 352 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: screwed up, kind of like the legacy you know of 353 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: a sister when, because it doesn't matter across all boards, 354 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: say your sister didn't even go to the same college 355 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: that you went to, she should always have that legacy 356 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: of getting into that sorority wherever. So they really screwed 357 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: that up. I know for a fact COVID during COVID 358 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: and not during COVID. It seems to be always a mistake. 359 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 7: But wow, that would have been interesting somehow. 360 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 8: I think that happened at my school too, where it 361 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 8: just messed up the way that they did things to 362 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 8: where legacy really was not as important as it may 363 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 8: have used to them. And that is something that really 364 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 8: put me off. 365 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: And just that's true. 366 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Contact your sorority after. 367 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I did, and they had zero good excuse for it. 368 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 7: They were like, oh, it must have just slipped through 369 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 7: the cracks. 370 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, where do when they vote now? Like, 371 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 3: because that would have never happened back in the day. 372 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: A sister forget it in a way. But that was 373 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: also a time where you everybody will put their heads 374 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 3: down and you would like raise your hand. Like it 375 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 3: wasn't like social like you can vote now, is there 376 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: like an app that you can vote on? So like 377 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: it's so anonymous. 378 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what the US in ours as you like 379 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 8: rank people through an app, and a lot more of 380 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 8: it is done through technology. 381 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 7: So maybe that's how people kind of slipped through the crocs. 382 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: But what what was that app called I forget. 383 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Not remember for the life of me, But it was. 384 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was like a whole system. 385 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I just there was that would not that 386 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened. I don't think when I went on paper, Yeah, yeah, 387 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: when I went in, it was a three computer. We 388 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: had three Three of my best friends were already in 389 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 3: a FI because I was a transfer student, and it 390 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 3: was just nobody was going to go I mean, there 391 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: were three of them, so nobody was going to give them, 392 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, any shit. So it was kind of like 393 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: a shoeing. But I but even like that, like if 394 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 3: you had a mother that was a FI you were 395 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 3: getting in. 396 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: Yeah. 397 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 8: See that's an interesting thing too, because I had an 398 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 8: aunt that went to the same school as me, and 399 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 8: she was like, oh, you definitely will be able to 400 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 8: get through and just be a kapa because that's what 401 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 8: she was. And no, they dropped me both times. 402 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: It would be interesting to like see how Greek life evolves, 403 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: even like in the next like ten years. 404 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 8: I know, I think so too, because it's weird. I 405 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: feel like I've seen so much change in the years 406 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 8: that I was in. 407 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 7: School, and yeah, it seems to be evolving a lot. 408 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: So oh one hundred. I think sororities used. 409 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: To be more fun back in back, probably when you 410 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: were in a sorority jet than they were now, I 411 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: mean than they are now. 412 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun, but there was other you know, 413 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: there was other shitty things that happened back then that 414 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: wouldn't happen today, right, I mean, you know, just a 415 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: lot of stuff like the mixing with the frats and 416 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: you know, getting called and like standing in front of 417 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: the house like when you got your bid and then 418 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: I think I told you guys about this couple episodes ago, 419 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: but like all the boys would show up and like pick, 420 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, there was a bunch of just yeah, 421 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: that's crazy, like just in case you had self esteem 422 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: for a minute, because you got in like next the 423 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: next minute, you're the only one without Maybe this is 424 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: just my experience without a date. I mean that was right, 425 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: but yes, but I mean it was now we didn't 426 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: have to contend with a lot of the stuff. I 427 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: don't even know how you guys do it now. It's 428 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: a lot, especially looking at these schools in the South 429 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: and what's going on. It's absolutely over the top crazy, right, Yeah, and. 430 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 8: That's pretty insane and just I think the social media 431 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 8: elements crazy. 432 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking what school was. 433 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 7: It, I don't think. I don't think I want to say. 434 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: Okay, no problem, but you were you said it was 435 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: down south though, Yeah, so it was really intense. 436 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, big Texas schools and and so just very intense. 437 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 8: And the moms even are very intense. The whole ordeal. 438 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 8: It's just I don't know, to a certain extent, I 439 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 8: liked it, and I gained a lot of great friends 440 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 8: out of it, but looking back, there's so much superficialness 441 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 8: to the whole thing that just makes me feel a 442 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 8: little bit icky. 443 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: That's why I feel like it used to be way 444 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: more authentic than what it is now. 445 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, it. 446 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: Was always superficial though, Guys. There was always a level 447 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: of that I think. 448 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I feel like it is, and then 449 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: you got to get like past that and find your 450 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: like good friends. 451 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely the core of all of it. Once 452 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 8: you find like your friends from it, that's what you meant. 453 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so your sister and your cousin aren't in it 454 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: right now. I remember when my sisters were rushing. I 455 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: was so nervous for them. So you probably feel the pressure. 456 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, I am feeling the pressure a little bit. I 457 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 7: mostly just feel for them so much because I know 458 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 7: how it feels to go through the process. 459 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 8: And have it go really poorly or have it go 460 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 8: really well. Even when it is going well, it's not 461 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 8: a cake walk like. It still is intense and it 462 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 8: brings up so much emotion. So they have both been 463 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 8: calling me constantly in tears, are so happy, and it's 464 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 8: such a rollercoaster, you know, And so I'm trying to 465 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 8: support them through the best I can, and luckily I 466 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 8: can empathize. So that's definitely something that's been really cool 467 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 8: throughout the whole process. But mostly I'm just excited for 468 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 8: them to be done with it and start school and 469 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 8: get to actually feel the benefit of the crazy process 470 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 8: that they've been through. But one of them, my sister, 471 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 8: it's going really well for she's gotten maybe not all 472 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: the houses back, but a lot of the. 473 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 7: Ones that she likes. 474 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 8: And then unfortunately my cousin, it's a little bit more 475 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 8: touch and go. 476 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 7: She's not sure about the houses that she had back. 477 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 8: Originally she got all I think it was ten that 478 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 8: you could get in the first she got ten backs, 479 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 8: she was kind of on top of the world. And 480 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 8: then actually this morning she found out that she got 481 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 8: I think only three out of six back for the 482 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 8: next round. So I know that that's been kind of 483 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 8: hard on her. 484 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy that drop that can happen. 485 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's. 486 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 7: Because, I mean, getting ten back that's pretty rare. It's 487 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 7: a big deal. 488 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, So to go from ten to three, I mean, 489 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 8: my heart just hurts like that never feels good, even if. 490 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: She's so glad she has you though, what. 491 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 8: I'm really glad that I can help them through it 492 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 8: because I know that when I was going through the process, 493 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 8: I really wish that I had more people that I could. 494 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: Kind of lean on. 495 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 7: Who had gone through it and understood. 496 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: And maybe there is something to be said for these 497 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: sorority coaches. Maybe there is, like, you know, something to 498 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: have somebody who actually does it professionally and understands what 499 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: can happen at any given moment and can kind of 500 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: coach you, you know, through it a little bit and help 501 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: out just the whole the emotions of it all. 502 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Maybe if it's a nice sorority coach, they're looking out 503 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: for your mental health and not maybe what color you 504 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: should change your hair. I mean, at least you went 505 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: through kind of I guess both experiences grace, like you 506 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,959 Speaker 1: had one that wasn't so great and one that obviously 507 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: it got better at the end. So I feel like 508 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: that definitely, you know, is helping your cousin out right now, 509 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: because even if things don't go as planned for her 510 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: right now, just tell her to try again. 511 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 8: M M. I know, I think that could be good. 512 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 8: And they have Cob and all of that, so I 513 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 8: know that she'll be fine and if it's meant to be, 514 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 8: she'll find that home eventually, and who knows even through 515 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 8: Oh my god, yes. 516 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: The COB is you just brought up another sorority wit good. 517 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: I said, I don't know what it is. 518 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 7: So continuous open bidding, right, yeah. 519 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you basically just kind of get accepted in. 520 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 8: Right. 521 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: It's if you're it's after rush and they have a 522 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: couple of girls that they can bring in if they want, 523 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: but typically it happens this semester after Yeah. 524 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 8: I think it's if the sorority doesn't meet their quota 525 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 8: or if some people like end up accepting a bid 526 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 8: but then not going to the situation, they'll have extra 527 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 8: spots and they'll kind of like just yeah, it's a 528 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 8: much chiller process, so kind of just. 529 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Be like they don't have to do anything. They just 530 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: walk in the door. 531 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 7: You know, she wants to be a theater or whatever, 532 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 7: and they're like welcome. 533 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: What does it stand for? 534 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 7: So you'll be continuous, got it? So that's always a 535 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 7: good option too. I wish I could have done. 536 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: That would have been so much. 537 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, I hope your cousins experience only goes up 538 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: from here, and I'm happy that your sister yes doing great. 539 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, you guys. I feel for her obviously. I 540 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: feel for her cousin and her sister, But to be 541 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: outside of it and somebody you love is going through it. 542 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: And again I mean I had a daughter go through it, 543 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: and it's a different experience. It's almost harder. 544 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: I think. 545 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just knowing that, like I wanted 546 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: anybody that was going to reject my daughter Rachel, they 547 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: had to die a slow and painful death. It's still 548 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: like that, like she doesn't get a job, or she 549 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: doesn't get the boy. That has to No, it has 550 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: to be slow and painful. That person is dead, must 551 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: be wiped off the map. So like you know, is 552 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: a mom of it or cut like you want the 553 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: whole sorority, especially if it's your sorority. Imagine your own 554 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: sorty is rejecting your sister. 555 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: No so much? 556 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: No good? 557 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah No, I definitely believe that it's harder as a 558 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: mom watching it because I even I think about my 559 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: mom and like anything I've gone through in my life. 560 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: I remember one time she told me, she said, anything 561 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: that I go through is ten times harder than anything 562 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: she's ever gone through, like for her like watching and 563 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: having to like watch me go through it if I'm 564 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: like going through something hard. So I totally believe that. 565 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: And my little sister too, someone does her wrong. 566 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I want a pound. 567 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys see that. 568 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: There's a TikTok right now of this mom who has 569 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: life three sixty or whatever it is. So she's following 570 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: her daughter through the process. She's like, Okay, now she's 571 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: at I don't know. Now she's at theta. Now she's 572 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, why did she stay in theata for 573 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: so long? Why didn't she walk out? 574 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: You guys, No, it's it's a little girl. 575 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: I can't. 576 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: I feel like I might have done that if it 577 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: was if it wasn't all on zoom. But she's like 578 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: freaking out, like, wait a second, wait a second, why 579 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: is she out on the porch. Why isn't she going in? 580 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: She taught like just the whole thing is so. 581 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Hyper and honestly, yeah, yeah, I mean I think right now, obviously, 582 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: even for Grace and her cousin and her sister, I know, 583 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: it feels like the end of the world. But after 584 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: college or even after your freshman year, literally it doesn't 585 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: even matter. 586 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's like it's such That's why I 587 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: hate how like it's it's like. 588 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: A fever dream in yeah, but then it goes away 589 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: no matter. 590 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: What you are going to be okay, like if you're 591 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: in a sorority, if you're not in a sorority, you're 592 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: going to be fine, Like everything is going to be amazing. 593 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: But it's like in that moment for some people. 594 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: So many of my friends didn't rush, some of them 595 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: got dropped from everything, some of them didn't have the GPI. 596 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of my friends, you wouldn't 597 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: expect them to get dropped either. Pretty girls, you wouldn't. 598 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that they would. But it's also hard 599 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: if you get blacklisted or if you have a certain 600 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: reputation from. 601 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: I want to talk about that on one of our episodes, 602 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: guys about getting get blacklisted and that what that's about. 603 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: Definitely, Well, I think it's a lot easier for girls 604 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: to get blacklisted if they're rushing their sophomore year or 605 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: if they're a transfer, because then it allows obviously the 606 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: sororities to get to know you and look at you 607 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: while you're out, and if they kind of don't like 608 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: what they see, then you could get blacklisted. Or if 609 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: you're screwing a sorority sister's boyfriend or this or that, 610 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: And that's why this one girl got blacklisted because she 611 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: was she didn't know, and that's the hard part as 612 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: a fresh you don't know these frat boys and who 613 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: they're dating and all the ties and literally I felt 614 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: so bad. But my one friend in college, she got 615 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: blacklisted and she couldn't rush because she ended up somebody 616 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: having sex with someone's boyfriend and she had no idea. 617 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: The girls and I could be I'm just thinking about 618 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: it delaware, Like I don't think that they were allowed 619 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: as freshmen to go to parties like with frat boys, 620 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: because they're very thing. Once you were in, you couldn't. 621 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: But what if you didn't rush your freshman year? 622 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: Give a shit and you went, But if you were 623 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: rushing or in a sorority. 624 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: Then you weren't allowed. 625 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 626 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I was supposed to or not. 627 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to go out like during the rush process, 628 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: but I definitely went out for semester for sure. And 629 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: then yeah, I mean if girls didn't have the GPA 630 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: and weren't allowed to rush freshman year, my friends went 631 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: out and I think you're the craziest your freshman year. 632 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, Like I feel like that's the worst, 633 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: Like everyone was. 634 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: Ushman year is crazy, honestly though, there's nothing like it. 635 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: Though it's so fun too. 636 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: So that was one of my best year, my freshman year, right, 637 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: my best year. 638 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: It's just everything so new and exciting and scary too. 639 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: But it's like all of that like compiled together, makes 640 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,959 Speaker 2: it great. 641 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: To say she felt bad for anyone that didn't go 642 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: to Delaware. I was like, Rachel, I feel like they're okay, 643 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: They're okay, they're getting through. 644 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: It's funny. 645 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way to feel. 646 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: Not everybody does, Oh my gosh, for sure. 647 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: For sure. There's so many And I love you guys. 648 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 3: The message that you guys are sending out that it's 649 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 3: going to be okay coming from two girls. I love 650 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: being in a sorority, you know, and that you have 651 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 3: so many friends who didn't work out for in terms 652 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: of whatever getting into the top tier. 653 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah, So anyone listening, if you're going through it, 654 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: if you went through it, or if you're a mom 655 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: watching your daughter go through it, or a sibling or anyone, 656 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: no matter what, it'll be okay. 657 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, Miss Daisy