1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: How long have we known each other? We were just 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: trying to figure this out the other day. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: We're like since we were little, since we were teenagers. 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: And then we were talking about your eighteenth birthday, Oh 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: my gosh, and how gorgeous you are. I still remember 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: I was wearing the coveralls, some coverall, but they were 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: like cool, I don't know, they were like con tempo 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: casual coveralls or something. You were in this beautiful white dress, a. 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Liah like bandage dress. I was like trying to be like, 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: look at me. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: I made it. 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: And you had the absolute hottest guys in the world 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: at your birthday, and I just remember. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Yes, are you kidding me? 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: You had Luke, Brian, Yeah, Jason, Yeah, I mean Ian, 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean it was I in there. Wait anyway, it 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: was just the hottest guys. I'm and I and all 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: of young Hollywood, all. 20 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Of young Hollywood, and then all of my like real 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: friends from high school. Yes, So it was like this 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: odd balance. And then I just remember like that night, 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: like Luke and Jason were just like I was like 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: a Tory sandwich for like my eighteenth birthday. 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: No, it was like wild. 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: I mean, what an amazing sandwich to be between I mean, 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: I mean. 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: And for me not to have eyes for Brian is weird. 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Like I couldn't even tell you what Brian said that night, 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: what he was wearing that night. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: I remember what he was wearing pictures for your birthday. 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I think, okay, okay, so so follow me and 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: tell me if you remember this I remember Brian wearing 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: because obviously okay, so truth be told. We both have 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: so much love for Brian, obviously you, I mean, your 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: love story is the most exquisite, most beautiful, just I'm 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: mine bent by it. And I also had a great 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: deal of love for Brian, and we both still have 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: a great deal of love for Brian and Sharna, of course, 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: just to reminisce, because it's so fun being nostalgic. 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 4: Do you remember I remember. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Brian was wearing a copper Do you remember a copper suit? 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Like a copper orangish coming back to you? Weeziest memory ever? 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: And I can't don't tell him this, tell us I 45 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: don't even remember him there, Like it was the one 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: night in history of life that I wasn't focused on Brian. 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 3: Austin Grass Okay, well, I may have pictures otherwise, because 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: I vaguely remember him doing like the Roger rabbit or 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: something like I have Maye. It's also because I have 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: pictures too of it that like, you know, is it 51 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: like how much do we remember through photographs? 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: And like my memory is like I see it in 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: my head, but you're like that as well, So like 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: it's wild At that one night, I don't remember, but 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Luke and Jason were like it was so kind too. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: It was like here's our cast met and our. 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: Friends and the producer's daughter and like it's her eighteenth 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: birthday and we are like the heart throbs of America 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: of the world right now, and like we're just going 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: to devote all our attention to her. Like what it's 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: how generous? 62 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: So sweet? 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: I think she's in Brisley was wearing a tie if 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: I remember correctly, Yeah, tie, Like something that I love 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: that we've spoken about is as wild and outrageous as 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: our lives were, and as colorful and as crazy as 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: everything was, we still very much had that innocence and 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: excitement of oh my goodness, like, look at these heart throbs. 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: I suppose like what other people feel when they go 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: to like a football game or you know, some kind 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: of exquisitive at high school. 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: It was just like it was a totally. 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Unorthodox childhood, but in a lot of. 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: Ways it was. 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: I mean I was always boy crazy, always have been 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: the same. It was ingrained in me from the time 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: I was born. 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: And yeah, so anyway, and I know I told you this, 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: but yeah, like that eighteenth birthday party, I will never 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: forget because that's when Luke Perry kissed me. 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: In the limo. I filed the story before, but can't 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: get over that kiss me in. 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: The limo with all my like not my high school 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: girlfriends from the show, but my high school girlfriends from 85 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: real life. Like they were all there and like it 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: was just magical. 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: Okay, Tori, I want to know everything about the kiss 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: because I Luke Perry's. 89 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: So much and he would have kissed you. 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Oh. 91 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: I have a great Perry story that I don't even 92 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: know that I haven't shared much. But first I want 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: to hear about the kiss and then I'll tell you 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: my Luke Perry story. 95 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: So he was like we were going into this big, long, 96 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: like white stretched limo, like prom limo, going back to 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: my parents. The manor and like we were just all 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: going to hang out and everybody was coming back, and 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: he like, we're like come with us, and he's like okay, 100 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: and he like dove into the limo with me and 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: the girls. And I don't even remember how it happened. 102 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: He was like sitting on the floors, we were all 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: piled in and I don't know, we just kissed. It 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like this crazy long kiss. It was just like 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: a moment. But to me, it was like everything was 106 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: it like was it a kiss on the lips or 107 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: was it? Was there actual tongue in the kiss? 108 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: Wow? 109 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't remembers. It was an open mouthed place. Yeah, 110 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: did you did you? 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: Are we allowed to say this on the rio deal? 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: This touch of his tongue? Well, I was eighteen, so 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: I guess I was legal. It was fine? Right? 114 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 4: Was there tongue involvatory? That's all I have to know? 115 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: Did you touch Luke Berry's tongue? That sounds so r 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: I'm sure yeah. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: And I also remember he gave me gun earrings for 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: my eighteenth birthday. 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: I mean, he gave you gun earrings and his tongue. 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean that says it all. 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: I can't like girl. 122 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, this whole entire internmy is gonna have 123 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: to be censored and or not. 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave me gun earrings, but that was because 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: like he was like a cowboy. 126 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: And like he was and there was anything. 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: Like no, no, I know. 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's like, so he was such a good 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 3: human being and so sweet and then played this series. 130 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: Did you pierce them immediately? 131 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Probably should have, but. 132 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Then you know, that was a Saturday night and Monday 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: went back to set and like you know, there was Brian, 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: so I forgot all about Luke. 135 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm the prize, I'm the prize. 136 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: Okay, so my Luke story. 137 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: He uh. 138 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: He was just the kindest, most most beautiful spirit, as 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: you know, and he was always so kind to me. 140 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: And I remember on one of my birthdays, I went 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: and visited you guys on the set, and he gave 142 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: me this huge hug in love. And of course, where 143 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: would I want to spend my birthday, you know, other 144 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: than with all all of you, And I know I'm blushing. 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: And I had such a crush on him, and he 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: was so kind and sweet and he was such a 147 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: beautiful listener. I remember him being such a beautiful listener 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: and so warm and always made you feel so. 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: Loved. 150 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: And so we had this, we had this moment where 151 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: so we worked with the same person. I guess we 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: must have had the same manager or agent or something. 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: And the person, I mean, this is absolutely insane. The 154 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: person was learning how to fly and decided that they 155 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: would take us in learning to fly. Luke Whuke and 156 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: I right, because we had this person that like worked 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: with us both okay, and this is a crazy story. 158 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: This is a crazy story. And he said, why don't 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: we all go to Catalina for lunch. Now we're not 160 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: talking about this isn't like some private plane, big plane whatever. 161 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: It's like you know those teeny tiny little planes that 162 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: people learn how to, you know, the teeny tiny plane, 163 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: the teeny tiny plane that somebody learns how to. 164 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: It has like a propeller. 165 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it has like a. 166 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Propeller, right, is that right? 167 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 3: This was so terrified, so so okay, so literally it's yeah, 168 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, a little thing in the front 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 3: and it's like a three seater. 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: Oh I know, I know. 171 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Okay, Remember again, this is not a private plane. This 172 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: is not a fancy plane. This is the kind of 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: plane somebody learns how to fly and he's like, let me. 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: Take you guys out to lunch. 175 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: Right, So Luke and I go on this plane to 176 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Catalina and we go and you know, it's a little 177 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: you know, and I too am really like. 178 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 179 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: And so we get to lunch and we actually get 180 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: there and we land and we're like, okay, hey, we're good, 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: We're good, you know, Okay, we got here. When we 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: go to leave, like the clouds have come in and 183 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: it's like stormy, and literally they're like are we able 184 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: to fly? Now? Remember this guy is like just learned 185 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: how to fly, and like we're going on his big 186 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: outing out and literally I remember as the plane, this 187 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: is so insane. As the plane goes off, there's like 188 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: this mountaintop in Catalina that it goes off and all 189 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it just drops and it drops, and 190 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: I literally like at this point, I don't even know 191 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: that we have seat belts on, because we are convinced 192 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: that like this is it. They jump into well what 193 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: I did. I jumped into Looperry's arms. I threw myself 194 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: in his arms and we ended up somehow. I think 195 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: we ended up on the floor of the This is 196 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: of the plane, if I remember correctly, And because we're convinced, 197 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: and the plane's going like this, because the plane's going 198 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: like going up and down and up and down, and 199 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: so what happens I cannot I've never shared this story 200 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: in the entire Yeah, And the plane is going like this, right, 201 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: like up and down, up and down, and he and 202 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: I are like up and down, sharing our life stories 203 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: because we are convinced that this is it. And he's 204 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: holding me in his arms and I'm holding him in 205 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: my arms, and we just our entire lives flashed in 206 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 3: front of us. And I was able to like share 207 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: my life in all of the you know, thirty minute 208 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: plane ride, and it was just actually one of the 209 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: most beautiful experiences in my life, and that bonded us forever. 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: And I don't think I've ever told that story ever. 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm like blown away, which is for a callback. I 212 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: wasn't their tongue. 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: The plane was going like this, and I probably was. 214 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I was like sixteen years 215 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: old at the time or anything. It was just more 216 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: like he I thought we were convinced that the plane 217 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: and so he was just like, but that protect. 218 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, well that's what I was thinking. 219 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: I was like, well, if you're gonna you know anyone. 220 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: And that was the other thing was I was like, 221 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 4: as much. 222 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: As I was terrified, I was like, but I am 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: in Luke Perry's arm, So it was like of like 224 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: being really afraid. And also that Luke Perry was like 225 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: my superhero like in the moment. 226 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh my god. 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: It was Yeah, it was crazy, but we landed safely, 228 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: and I always remember that, was that a crazy story? 229 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 230 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 4: I got I got, like. 231 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Wow, like imagine that headline though, No. 232 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: God, no, no, no, no, it was so magical. It's 233 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 3: like one of it's like, it's one of my favorite memories. 234 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: My God, Harry and Punky Power like Peril and plane 235 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Punky Perry Power, Punky Pary Power Perry Punky didn't work 236 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: this time as a Peril. No. 237 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, it's sorry. Sorry. 238 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: You know what. 239 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 4: I should have just kissed him. I should have just 240 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: kissed I should have kissed him. I should have just 241 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 4: grabbed him. 242 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: And oh he was probably I can I just imagine 243 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: he was probably sweet and telling you it was going 244 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: to be okay, and He's like, tell me about your life, 245 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, I. 246 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: Didn't think it was going to be okay. 247 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: And because we really like we were really. 248 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the guy saying that was flying this plane? 249 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: I think he was just trying to like keep the 250 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: plane up. 251 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: And it's a crazy story, do you guys, Land, Punky 252 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: and Perry there you go. I mean a story. See, 253 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: it's a first, it's a first. I gotta share a story. 254 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: First story Clouds Brittain in the Clouds written and I 255 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: will never forget that. 256 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: It was so it was really beautiful. 257 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Did you ever get a small plane again after that? 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 4: You know, on a few occasions. 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't think I have ever, but I was I had. 260 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: I mean, these are all going to sound like crazy stories. 261 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: I remember flying into Idaho at one point to me 262 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: who I love so much, and she was, you know, 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: helped essentially bring my children into this world, and she's 264 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: so amazing. And at one time we were again I 265 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: found myself in a plane and Bruce, the incredible Bruce 266 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Willis was there and and you know, the plane was 267 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: This is all going to sound like crazy Hollywood stories, 268 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: but again, like it was like somehow we ended up 269 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: going on a family trip or something, and and there 270 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: was turbulence, and I just remember thinking, well, Bruce Willis 271 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: is here on the plane, so we're good. Like I 272 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: felt somehow inevitably like safer because Bruce was on the plane, 273 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, you're die hard dude, like I'm good. 274 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: That was different that I was like, cool, he like 275 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: kept it all together. I felt safe. And then yeah, 276 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: there weren't many of those experiences after that. I think 277 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: after that, I was like, I'll be taking Southwest. 278 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, jet Blue has my name, So I all over. 279 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: A story like that, like because you felt like and 280 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: this is not going to sound normal to anyone, or 281 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: maybe it will, Like Bruce Willis is on this plane, 282 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be okay. 283 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: A thousand percent, So like a thousand percent, I was like, 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: he can. 285 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: It's like having taught like if Tom Cruise was like, 286 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 3: you know, like fly you know you're like, oh, Tom 287 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Cruise here, it's all gonna be okay, which, by the way, 288 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: way I mean with Tom Cruise, I feel like everything 289 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: is is okay when it's in a step world, Like 290 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm just like like I I. 291 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would have like jumped down and like Superman, 292 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: the plane oh, a thousand percent. 293 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: He would have carried the plane like com Cruise were 294 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: just like carries the plane. 295 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: He's got you and he's like. 296 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: No one, I'm talking cruise. Okay. So I used to 297 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: panic on planes, like be so. 298 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: I believe I even talking about planes. I just don't worry. Okay, okay, okay, tom. 299 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Me so panic on planes. And I'd always count how 300 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: many babies were on the plane, because I always thought, well, 301 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: if there's babies, like, God's not gonna take us right now, 302 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: we know this is not true. 303 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: This is irrational, by. 304 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: The way, everyone has done this. Everyone. 305 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 306 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: And then I'm on a plane once and Michael Bolton 307 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: was on the plane and this is like in his heyday, 308 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: not his hair day, his hey day at some point 309 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: and he was on and for some reason before they 310 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: like closed the doors. 311 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: I don't know why, he got up and got off 312 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: the plane. 313 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, now I'm fucked, like in 314 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: my weird like a rational fear, I was like, Michael 315 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Bolton's here, Nothing's gonna happen. And as he gets up, 316 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: I literally turned to my friend I said, we're getting 317 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: off the plane, and she goes, this is crazy. This 318 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: is fear has gone too far. I said, I know 319 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: it's irrational. I can't help myself. Right now, before they 320 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: close those doors, Michael Bolton got off. 321 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: We had to get off. We go off the plane. 322 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: You got off got a flane. 323 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, because Michael Bolton did correct And did you tell 324 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: Michael Bolton this ever? 325 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Do you know why he 326 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: got off the plane? No, no, idea. 327 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: He probably was on the wrong plane. 328 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: He probably had too many like cocktails and like ended 329 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: up on the wrong But in. 330 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: My mind, it's like, if he's on the plane, the 331 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: plane won't ever go down, so I have to get 332 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: off this flight. 333 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: Of course I checked the flight later. The flight was fine, 334 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: nothing happened. 335 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: God, that is hysterical. 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's so it's wild. 337 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, you and I will have some 338 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: fun traveling together. Then I went into the Amazon not 339 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: too long ago, and that was wild. And that's like 340 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: one of those planes where they like it down the windows, 341 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: you know kind of thing. Well, yeah, yeah, like I 342 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 3: went into the Amazon. I went and stayed with a 343 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: tribe in Ecuador, which was unbelievable. It was really mind blowing. 344 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: And and to get in you take this, you know, 345 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: this tiny plane and then they drop you off in 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: the middle of the Amazon and they come back a 347 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: week later to pick you up. It's really it was 348 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: a really profound experience. And myself, well, so here. So 349 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: there was a small group of us, and my dear 350 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: friend who's here with me now can attest to this 351 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: because they were with me and and and and I'm 352 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 3: not kidding. You could roll down the plastic you know, 353 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: like window sides, and that's you know, and yeah and uh. 354 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: And on the way back it was like I think, 355 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: I think, I think we had like a backpack or something. 356 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, no, you have to take 357 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: the backpack off because the way you know of the 358 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: so tory, I know how to get you through your fear. 359 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: You have to come with me to the Amazon, okay, 360 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 3: and we will go and visit the tribe there, and 361 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: you will no longer have a fear of lying. I've 362 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: gotten better, and you've got so much better, and this 363 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: is going to be, this is going to be, this 364 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: is going to be. Your next step is I'm going 365 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: to go into the jungle. And once you have gone 366 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: and flown over the jungle in one of these you know, cue. 367 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: You know, they don't like parachute you out, No, they 368 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: they land and then they say goodbye, and then they 369 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: leave and you go and live in the jungle for 370 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: however long you live there. 371 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: And it's really spectacular. I mean that's did you film this? 372 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: You film everything? 373 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 4: Well? I filmed. 374 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 3: I filmed parts of it for sure, and then wanted 375 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: to be very respectful of the tribe that welcomed us 376 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: in so so there was parts that I documented, in 377 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: parts that just remain in my heart. 378 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: It was very life changing. Is this where you had 379 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: the shaman experience. 380 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: I've had a few experiences with shamans, and that was 381 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: that was an double experience with Yeah, is. 382 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: That the one that told you, uh, that was a 383 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: different one. 384 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: We tell that story, sure, of course and around my 385 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: heart our hearts. Yeah, And it's so wild because I 386 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: was talking to Brian about this too, and it's so 387 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: that the shaman there in the jungle. 388 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: It was wild. 389 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: I remember hugging just just the whole experience opening my 390 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: heart so much, you know, And. 391 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: And so yeah, absolutely, we can tell it. 392 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: You can, you can, you can share, I can share 393 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: however you want. 394 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: This is wild that we've known each other for so long, 395 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: you me and Brian. Obviously you and Brian stayed connected, 396 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: like I lost touch with friends and just in and 397 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: out of life. And I'm so happy and grateful to 398 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: be reconnected with you, and I don't want to lose 399 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: you again. I feel like this is the time in 400 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: our journey we're supposed to reconnect and now together. 401 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: But absolutely everything happens for a reason. 402 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: But it's wild. I have five kids, Brian has five kids. 403 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: You have four kids. 404 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah that there's a lot of kids between 405 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: fourteen kids between. 406 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: Anti moth I'm glad you did it for us. Thank you. 407 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: At first I was sinking nineteen, but you know, fourteen 408 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: might as well be nineteen. 409 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: Fourteen kids. 410 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So my feeling is, I wonder if you agree. 411 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, with this many kids, they better really 412 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: make a huge difference an impact in the world. I'm like, 413 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: they gotta, they gotta, and they are. 414 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm just busy trying to keep them alive. 415 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Every every night they go to bed, account all of 416 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: them like there's that too, well more night. 417 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: It's just like just getting through it. You are and 418 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: so are. 419 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Your parents, all of us. But I think our biggest connection, 420 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: at least from my perspective, is that we truly lead 421 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: with our hearts and with kindness. And that's my biggest 422 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: takeaway from my kids. Like people say, what do they 423 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: want to be? And I said, you know what, that's irrelevant. 424 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I hope they make great changes in this world. I 425 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: hope they do what their passions are and what their 426 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: loves are and do well from and prosper. But leading 427 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: with kindness is just my biggest thing, and I'm glad 428 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: that they all have that from me. 429 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, your beautiful, open, exquisite heart that I love so much, 430 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: I loved so much. And what I was sharing with 431 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: you and I was sharing with Brian, was that I 432 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: had met this incredible shaman and was feeling very vulnerable 433 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: in my life, as I so often do. And I 434 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: think when we move through life and loss and love 435 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: and allow the light to come in, you know that 436 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: it's so much of our processing, you know. And we've 437 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 3: also experienced a great deal of grief, you know, and 438 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: and we've spoken of, you know, chasing grief away. And 439 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: I know for me, I tried to love it away 440 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: and work it away and just how it comes back, 441 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: you know, to find its way to you. And I 442 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: think that's something that you and Brian and I have 443 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: spoken about so openly, you know, And ever since I 444 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 3: was young, I mean, I've had the most incredible relationships 445 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: and I've also lost some of like the closest people 446 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: in my life. And so I was speaking with this 447 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: shaman and he said to me, you go through life 448 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: with a broken heart, and that is your journey. That 449 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: is part of your journey, is going through life with 450 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 3: a broken heart. I had never heard anything like that before, 451 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: and yet at the same time, it gave me so 452 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: much clarity because it it allows us to connect and 453 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: to be open with each other and to see that 454 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 3: that pain and that transformation of pain and delight is 455 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: our super power, you know. Yeah, And then it allows 456 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: other people to share with us and for us to 457 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: share with them with the genuine being parts of our being, 458 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: and to have compassion and empathy and all of these 459 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: elements that I think are so truly who you are 460 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: and certainly so much of of I feel the best 461 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: versions of myself. And so that that was a really 462 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 3: incredible moment where I just felt like all in my 463 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: walls just you know, breaking down, you know. 464 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: And it's also I think the definition what we're told 465 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the definition of a broken heart isn't always exactly what 466 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: we think it means. Because we've also talked about kind 467 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: of the openness of a broken heart, the thought if 468 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: you just visually see a broken heart, kind of broken 469 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: part that's inside of it, that's where the love and 470 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: light and the ass coming. 471 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Through, well exactly. 472 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 3: And that's one of my favorite Leonard Cohen quotes, one 473 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: of my favorite musicians ever, has to do with you 474 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: know how the broken parts are were the lights? You know? 475 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: And and so I think that it's you put it 476 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: so beautifully, which is to change the narrative within ourselves. 477 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean that that the parts of 478 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: us that have been broken, the loss that we've experienced, 479 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: the trials and tribulations, have been so much of our 480 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: expansion into the light, right, And I really believe that 481 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: we're instruments for something so much bigger than us. And 482 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 3: so every day, one of my dearest friends said, so 483 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: like every day I ask the universe, allow me to 484 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: be an instrument for me, for you, Let me be 485 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: an instrument for you, and so on a daily basis, 486 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 3: and I look to the universe and I asked, let 487 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: me be an instrument, you know, for you and and 488 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: my highest good, a vessel, a vessel for the good 489 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 3: and the world, and that that's so much of who 490 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: you are as well. 491 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: Still deserved to fall in love. 492 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: Oh well, absolutely, we deserve a lot of love. And 493 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: that's the and that's that's that, that's that part of 494 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: so much of what we've spoken about around worthiness and 495 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: self worth and value and how we value ourselves. I 496 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 3: think something that's really incredible to me though, is also 497 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 3: the fact that love to me to day looked so 498 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: different than the traditional kind of love that I had 499 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: thought of because I had a very unorthodox life, as 500 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: we did, right, and my dad was incredible and my 501 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: mom super mom. 502 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: You know. 503 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: My dad, you know, was a total rabble rouser, wasn't 504 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: always around, but he gave me a lot of love. 505 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: And I think that when I got married, I was 506 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: I was searching for that tradition and thinking, okay, well, 507 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 3: traditional you know, family values. And as time went on 508 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: and we evolved in different ways and had these incredible 509 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 3: children and came through that, I then, you know, have 510 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: had these very incredible, interesting experiences. And one of the 511 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: first people I came together with was one of my 512 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: best friends from childhood, Seth, and it was a totally 513 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 3: different kind of love. It was like that teen love again, 514 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: you know. And Seth bins Or was like my childhood. 515 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: Wait, I don't know him. 516 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: Okay, did you ever hear the song Butterfly by Crazy Town? 517 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: I said you she did my butterfly Baby? You don't 518 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: know this on Butterflies, like one of the biggest anthems 519 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 3: of the nineties. 520 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: Don't we exceed me right now? 521 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll play it for you. Okay, we'll play it here. 522 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: But essentially musician, yes. 523 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 3: A musician I had not really kept up with like his. 524 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: I hadn't really kept I hadn't really kept up with 525 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: his like whole bad boy you know, teen years. The 526 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: last time I had seen him, I had done a 527 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: music video with him when I was like twenty years 528 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: old or something, and so we hadn't seen that. 529 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: We had grown up together. 530 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: We were friends from twelve thirteen years old, and literally 531 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: we came together. He was sober when we came together, 532 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: and I was just like, oh my gosh. It was 533 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: like this teen beautiful love and it was a whole other. 534 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: Kind of love. 535 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: And and we came together, and then he relapsed three 536 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: to four months into us coming together, and it was 537 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: Devin stating, and we had started making this documentary about 538 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: his life and to do this, and it was incredibly 539 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: beautiful in so many ways and so emotional in so 540 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 3: many ways. And he passed away this this last summer. 541 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: And and so my point being that I haven't really 542 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: talked about this yet, Like you know, you know, to 543 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 3: grieve so deeply means that we had to have loved 544 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: and that love and that lightning and a bottle love 545 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: that I felt for that time, you know, that was endless, 546 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, and love him so much. And and and 547 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: I think, you know, the whole experience gave me such 548 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: a deeper understanding on love and loving without judgment, and 549 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: such an understanding around you know, mental health and addiction 550 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: and looking at addiction more as disease. 551 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: And then that led. 552 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: Me to this journey with the Carters and this incredible 553 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: journey that I've been on with this documentary. That I 554 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: was able to process so much of the grief through 555 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: this story that hit home so you know, hard for me. 556 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: So my point is back to love that I think 557 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: love comes in so many different stages, right, And it's 558 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: like you could experience months or years with somebody and 559 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: have some of the greatest love in your life in 560 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: that lightning model moment, you know, and deep love of friendship, 561 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: my love for you and us coming together where we 562 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 3: hadn't seen each other for years, and it's like you 563 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 3: just pick up right where you left off. Right the 564 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: love that I have with friendships now, the love that 565 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: I have with my children, and like I think, falling 566 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 3: in love and love looks like so many different shapes 567 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: and sizes. It's the mirror of who we are and 568 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: when we're our most genuine self, and that. 569 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: Reflects back to us. 570 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: So I suppose as much as I love the idea 571 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: of falling in love and sharing my life with that 572 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: person in romance, right, I also want to be so 573 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 3: aware that love exists all around me and that I 574 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: am in love with each and every person that reflects 575 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: back the best version of myself and that doesn't have 576 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: to be defined to one. 577 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: Person that reflects back. 578 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: That was beautiful, Hey, carry that forever that it's be 579 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: able to realize that that is. And I mean, I'm 580 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: guessing I know the answer to this. You don't believe 581 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: in regrets. 582 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, SELFE is far, so far is so precious. I 583 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: had a lot of be honest, I feel like I 584 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: had to work through a great deal of even when 585 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: when you know that it's not your faulty, you're not 586 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: able to save somebody and that they have to save 587 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: themselves regardless of that. Oh my god, we're getting so deeper. 588 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: Right. 589 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 3: So I had this thing where like sit and this 590 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: is like really stuck with me where seth He would 591 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: say he just wanted a nightstand, you know, in the house, 592 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: And I think that to him was symbolic of like 593 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: him just feeling like he had a place to call home. 594 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: And he was somebody that listened so well. So Mother's 595 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: Day it's like I would say, oh, you know things 596 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 3: in passing, I love making right, I want to be 597 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: able to make rice. And he would show up with 598 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: a rice cooker and I never had a mirror that 599 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: I could look close enough, and. 600 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 4: He show up with a mirror. Like he listened so well, 601 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: he checked in so much lunch. 602 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: And I remember that on a Christmas morning he said 603 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: I just want a nightstand. And he had said it 604 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: so many times and I never heard it, you know, 605 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: so for months after his passing, I was like, oh, 606 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: the next time that, I'm like, I. 607 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: Won't forget to get that night stand, you know. 608 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: So it was such a learning process and it was 609 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: such a journey and I wouldn't take back one second 610 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: of it. And I think it's also what gave me 611 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: the strength to then do the Carters, because I don't 612 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 3: know that I would have been able to understand this 613 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: family's journey, you know, or be there for Angel the 614 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: way that I wanted to, in the way that I 615 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: had to show up in the way that I think 616 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: is a documentarian. It is my my responsibility to show 617 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: up to provide a safe space for someone. Had I 618 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: not learned so much through that experience, so you know, 619 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: I had to like move through and let go of 620 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: the guilt and the shame and you know all of 621 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: those things that come with, you know, having a kind 622 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 3: of you know, wanting to save people, because I think 623 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: that's just innately in my inner being, wanting to do 624 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: what I can to you know, save everyone around me, 625 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: but realizing like I have to you know, first and 626 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: foremost always be there to save myself. 627 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 628 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: And that's something that is you know, a constant learning experience, 629 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: you know. 630 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: I have. So I watched the cart and it was 631 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: so brilliant. I came away from it just having such 632 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: a better understanding. And I never I'm not a judging person, 633 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: but you know, we only know what we know and 634 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: what we're told. And being able to change a narrative 635 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Carter and just and. 636 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: His legacy, it was. 637 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: Hauntingly beautiful and heartbreaking, and that's the only thing. 638 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 2: I think. 639 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: I have so much admiration for you, and you're such 640 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: a beautiful storyteller and it made me really happy that 641 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: Angel is able to tell the story you want it. 642 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm so you were that vessel. Thank you so much, 643 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: and it's out now. I'm paramount plus and I want 644 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: everyone to watch it just because I want them to 645 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: know what a beautiful love story this is really and 646 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: everyone can relate to it on some level. 647 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: I'm so so thankful that you watched it. You know, 648 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 3: Angel has such a courageous, beautiful, brave heart. And as 649 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: we're talking about loss, I mean she had lost her sister, Leslie, 650 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 3: she had lost her twin brother Aaron, and her father 651 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: when we started this journey, and then she lost her 652 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 3: sister be Jay and talk about coming through loss and 653 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: turning that loss and pain into light. 654 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 4: She is such an example of that. 655 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: And to be able to share her truth and to 656 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 3: see this family's transformation of how much they want to 657 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 3: help make the world a better place because of their strength, 658 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: and how we talk about in our generational trauma, and 659 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: at the core, how much I wanted to really help 660 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: share a story that had to do with mental health 661 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: and addiction that touches so many of us, including myself 662 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: in an honest way. I just I'm so thankful that 663 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: they trusted in me, and that the team, the incredible 664 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: team from Paramount, plus an incredible team from Candle Media, 665 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: and just the entire team involved with it, that they 666 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: allowed me to create a safe space for Angel to 667 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 3: share her story. And just I'm so thankful, and I 668 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: really hope that it touches lives and that people have 669 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: a better understanding because so many people think that. 670 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 2: That it's a choice. 671 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 3: You know, that the addiction is a choice that people 672 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 3: make every day, and you know, and I remember, you know, 673 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 3: I remember Set at one point saying to me, I've 674 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: tried everything. I dare any doctor, like literally, he's so 675 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 3: wanted to live and Aaron is such a beautiful example 676 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 3: of that, this beautiful, vibrant, lively, wonderful, just beautiful spirit 677 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 3: that you see in all of those early years, you know, 678 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: and what is that that point in which you know 679 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 3: someone breaks or isn't able to continue on that journey. 680 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: And so I really hope that this documentary helps people 681 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: that are struggling and also to have a better understanding, 682 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 3: you know, and creates conversations, meaningful conversations that we have 683 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 3: to be having around mental health and addiction for sure. 684 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: And it just stuck with me, Like you and you're 685 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: talking about now and you will listen. 686 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: But you do listen well. 687 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 3: And that's the thing is with Kid ninety, I said 688 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: that I was like, I didn't listen, and then it 689 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: was so wild because again I tried to listen, you 690 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 691 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 2: And so. 692 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to do my best to listen, 693 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: but tell me, but. 694 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: No, you listen. 695 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: And like I feel, you know, I can't speak for 696 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: our friendship when we were teenagers, but our friendship now, 697 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, going forward, I feel like you listened so 698 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: so well and you create that safe space even for 699 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: your humans, you know, not on camera like that they 700 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: feel comfortable just sharing and not feeling judged. It's such 701 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: a safe place. But you know, I know you interview 702 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: everyone and you do all of it. And then so 703 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: the one time that we really heard your voice in 704 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: it is you said to Angel when she said, you know, 705 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: Nix said he wants therapy, and. 706 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: You said, is that why the two of you are 707 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 2: still here? 708 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: And she said yes, sorry if I'm not verbatim seeing it, 709 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: and that just like you're breaking the wall, and like 710 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: saying that, just like that was like gut punched me 711 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: because I was like, I think it's so important. It's 712 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: such an important conversation and none of us can do 713 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: it alone, and not just mental health, not just addiction, 714 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: and specifically the mental health. I feel like it's something 715 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: like we didn't talk about it when I was growing up. 716 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: No one talked about it. 717 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: That was a stigmatism, like someone was like, oh, they 718 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: go to a therapist, what's wrong, or like you know, 719 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: and it's such a conversation that I feel like perhaps 720 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: our kids talk too freely. 721 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: About and kind of throw it away. 722 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: So there has to be that happy medium that we 723 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: all find. 724 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: But thank you for doing the story. 725 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: And I think it's really beautiful, and I think you 726 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: should get. 727 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: A nice. 728 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: You were realizing me we thought about getting it. Yeah, 729 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: we could refer a bish one Die Wyatt. 730 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: You know, break if you want night the night stand 731 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 4: in my heart I do. 732 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: I definitely break in and let the light is for 733 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 2: broken heart feeling. 734 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, wait, I'll tell you one more great 735 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: story and we can close on this, which I went 736 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: on a date some some time ago, because you know, 737 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I like this, I like this, I like 738 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: this story. 739 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: So I went on a date. 740 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 3: And and this gentleman takes me to this beautiful dinner. 741 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 4: I love going. 742 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 3: I'm manifesting a gentleman. I'm going to put this out 743 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 3: of the universe. A gentleman takes me to fantastic dinner 744 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: because we're manifesting here. 745 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay. 746 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 3: And and afterwards he is telling me what he loves 747 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 3: to collect, and he says, oh, I love to collect watches. 748 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: He runs through the collection of things that he collects, 749 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 3: and he turned to me and said, what do you collect? 750 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 4: And I said, I collect memories. 751 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's you. 752 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 4: That's who I am. That's you are your memory collectors. 753 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 4: So the nightstand is right here in my memory. 754 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: And that's all you need. I understand. That's beautiful. Wait 755 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: what else did he collect? 756 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 4: Who knows? Apparently a lot of things. I love you. 757 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 4: I laughed, I cried. 758 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you so much. No more. 759 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 2: I really want you to take me in the Amazon. 760 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to the Amazon. We're collecting memories. 761 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: Yes, for the rest of our lives. I love you 762 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: so much. I'm so grateful for you.