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Speaker 2: Oliver is on the phone today for a first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Sarah and has

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Speaker 2: no idea why. So we're going to call her in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes and see if she'll tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's ghosting. But first, Oliver, how long has it been

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Speaker 2: since you heard from Sarah.

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Speaker 3: It's been about a week.

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Speaker 4: How many times have you try to get ahold of

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Speaker 4: her in that week?

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Speaker 5: Well, I was texting her for the first couple of days,

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Speaker 5: three days, and I had spent like a text message

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Speaker 5: and she replied like really short, and then like the

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Speaker 5: next day I didn't hear anything, and then the next

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Speaker 5: day I didn't hear anything either.

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Speaker 3: So then I tried to call her, and then after

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Speaker 3: that I just I was like, you know, I don't want.

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Speaker 5: To seem too much like a stalker, so let me

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Speaker 5: just just back off.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 5: So I haven't personally reached out to her in like

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Speaker 5: two days now, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we gave her a little break for a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Let's right, let's go go back to

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Speaker 1: your date. Can you tell us about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we met up at a bar and we

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Speaker 5: were going to get a drink or two because I

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Speaker 5: had made reservations, so we were just kind of waiting

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Speaker 5: for those to get to get like get the tailor ready,

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Speaker 5: and but there was this really dope band that was

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Speaker 5: playing in the bar area and me and her were

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Speaker 5: just really enjoying the music and we kind of talked

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Speaker 5: about it, like, you know what, we can order food

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Speaker 5: at the bar. Let's you know, let's just still here.

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Speaker 5: So I went and canceled the reservation and we just

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Speaker 5: had some food there at the bar, had some drinks

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Speaker 5: and really enjoyed this cool band and that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was the date.

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Speaker 5: And then after that I drove her home and left

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Speaker 5: her there, said good night and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was really weird. I feel like we

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Speaker 3: had an awesome time.

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Speaker 2: So you just said good night? No kiss, handshake, a hug.

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Speaker 2: Was there any kind of interaction other than just buy

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying yeah, yeah, Like.

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Speaker 5: I didn't feel like I should go in for the kiss,

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Speaker 5: but I definitely hug her and.

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, I would love to hand again, see

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Speaker 3: you again. I didn't want it.

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Speaker 5: I'm not too forwardive a guy like that, but I

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Speaker 5: you know, I definitely wanted to, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Of course, did you feel like she wanted to?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: That's that's the thing, Like she she seemed excited in

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Speaker 5: her response about going on another date, and it wasn't

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Speaker 5: like a quick little hog like it was. It was

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Speaker 5: a nice little embrace like just you know, you know

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Speaker 5: when someone really enjoys hugging and it's kind of there's

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Speaker 5: a little squeeze and yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then what about like on the date, was there

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Speaker 1: anything that was awkward that would make her not want

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Speaker 4: Could she have also have wanted to go to the

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Speaker 4: dinner reservation and like not wanted to stay and listen

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Speaker 4: to the music? Like do you think she could have

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: I mean she she's actually the one that kind of

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Speaker 5: first suggested it. But you know, there was one thing

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Speaker 5: when when I walked back to the bar after canceling

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Speaker 5: the reservation, she was like kind of talk to this

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Speaker 5: an ex or friend or something else. I'm not too sure,

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Speaker 5: but like when I asked her about it, she was

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Speaker 5: and you know, I kind of think of it now.

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Speaker 5: She did seem a little off after that interaction. Okay,

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Speaker 5: maybe it was an X. Maybe it was a you know,

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Speaker 3: You didn't ask her like she just kind of she

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Speaker 3: was like, oh, you know, he's just hitting.

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Speaker 4: On me, was she saying? Next to you and she

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Speaker 4: was getting hit on. I saw it.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't like physically there, but I could see it

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Speaker 3: Up, And by the time I got there, the guy

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Speaker 4: But it looked like it was heated.

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Speaker 3: She didn't seem amused by it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we'll try to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a song and come back and then call her,

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Speaker 2: get her on the phone and ask her why she's

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Speaker 2: ghosting you, and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'd be perfect.

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Speaker 4: Play song, come back, get your first day follow up next.

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your first date follow up,

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Speaker 2: and Oliver is on the phone today he's getting ghosted

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Speaker 2: by Sarah.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't know why.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call her in just a second

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Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him

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Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But first, Oliver, why

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Speaker 2: don't you catch everybody up on your date with Sarah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we went to a bar and we're going to

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Speaker 5: have dinner at a restaurant. And we had a great

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Speaker 5: time at the bar beau. It was live music, so

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Speaker 5: we decided to stay there and we had it at

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Speaker 5: a great time and it seemed like a pleasant evening.

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Speaker 5: You want to drop her off, but now I can't

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Speaker 5: get a hold of her.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well we'll see if we can figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, my speak to Sarah. Please, Hey Sarah, how

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Speaker 2: are you? My name is Juwbel from a radio show

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Speaker 2: called The Jewbil Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Sarah ar Nina also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Oh hey, Hi, what's up? You listen to the show?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, I love it. Why are you guys calling me.

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Speaker 4: Because somebody else listens to the show too?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of people listen to you guys.

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Speaker 4: This is a person that you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, And they wanted us to call you because

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Speaker 2: you went out on a date with them, and now

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Speaker 2: you're ghosting them.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, I think I know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: This is a first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: And Oliver is a guy who emailed us and said

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Speaker 2: he went on a date with you and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: Oh, Oliver, Yeah, you know what, He's actually a really

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Speaker 3: good person. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, he told us about your date. If he's a

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Speaker 2: good guy, why don't you want to go out with

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Speaker 2: him again? You know?

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Speaker 3: It's not I don't sound funny. It's not him. It's

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what I want.

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Speaker 6: I'm getting out of a relationship, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: My ex keeps blowing up my phone. I was in

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Speaker 3: a two year relationship, so it's just really hard because

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Speaker 3: I just don't know exactly what I want.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I want to move on and

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Speaker 6: date other people or just be single for a while,

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Speaker 6: or get back together with my ex.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just confused.

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Speaker 1: I get that why did you go on a date

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Speaker 1: in the first place, though, because I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know what I wanted that I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: out and see I still don't know what I want? Well,

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Speaker 3: who was on dry what?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That was Oliver Sarah? Or he's actually on the phone

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Speaker 2: listening and want's to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, who were you? That was my ex?

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Speaker 3: What that I I didn't want to say anything to

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Speaker 3: you because I didn't I didn't know how you would

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Speaker 3: take the situation. I just went through a breakup, of

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Speaker 3: go through a break up. My extion isn't happy, he

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Speaker 6: I just didn't say anything. It was awkward, and so

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Speaker 6: I just went on to the date my ex last

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Speaker 6: he didn't stay there you date? So yeah, he saw

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Speaker 6: he saw that I was on a date. He got

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Speaker 6: it on my friend's app, and he couldn't stand that

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Speaker 3: So he showed up and.

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Speaker 6: He's, you know, wanting to ask questions and all that stuff.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, why couldn't you just tell me that,

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Speaker 3: Like what's what's the deal. I'm not back with him.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what I want.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to go out on a date with you

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I'm just confused because he's.

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Speaker 6: Bringing back all the good things that we have and

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Speaker 3: Back together again. So I just don't know what I want, Like,

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Speaker 4: Sarah, you did tell us that you're talking to him though.

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Speaker 6: I am talking to my act Yeah, of course it

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Speaker 6: I can't just end it.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's fair. But then why go on

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Speaker 4: a date with Oliver and like ghost him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what dating.

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Speaker 6: You go out and you date someone and you just

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Speaker 6: get to note them, Like I mean, it's not it's

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Speaker 5: You don't usually go on a date with someone when

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Speaker 3: How does that make any sense? Like are you just

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Speaker 3: trying to am I? Like a am I a booty call?

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Speaker 3: Like you're trying to hook up with me? And like, well,

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with a booty call?

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Speaker 6: Maybe it takes another guy to get over the other guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not that guy.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to find like a relationship, you know,

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Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to be that guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to just be puking up with whoever.

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Speaker 3: Especially that you don't know me until you hook up

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Speaker 3: with me. Maybe I'm a little old friend. I don't

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Speaker 5: But even so, like like what if I was there,

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Speaker 5: Like would your ex have like punched me in the face, Like, no,

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Speaker 5: he's not violent.

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Speaker 6: He might follow, he's not violent. He probably would just

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Speaker 6: stare at your safe somewhere. I don't know, But he left,

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Speaker 6: so he left.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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Speaker 4: Hey, nobody asks for my advice.

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Speaker 1: But whenever a third party, like as in an X,

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Speaker 1: shows up on a date, it's never a good sign.

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Speaker 1: They continue to pop up and even sometimes break into

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Speaker 4: Well, and bring into the house and look at you

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Speaker 4: while you're specific. That's why I said, nobody ask my advice.

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