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Speaker 1: M M all right, everybody, welcome to the State of

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Speaker 1: the Lakers postgame show. UM, Like Roger and I were

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Speaker 1: just saying, we're super stokes that this nice early game.

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Speaker 1: We can all have a good rest of our day

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Speaker 1: in a good mood and not have to stress about anything.

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Speaker 1: Lakers play again tomorrow at six last game of the season.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting game in the sense that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they clearly didn't bring their best effort, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't need to. UM, but you could at least

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Speaker 1: pay attention to some of the matchups on the floor

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Speaker 1: that we've been waiting to see all season. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: get a good look at what their core lineups are

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Speaker 1: gonna be, basically minus Alex Caruso, who was the only

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Speaker 1: guy who was out tonight. Um, today, I should say.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I guess I guess we have to start

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Speaker 1: with the wrong So let's start there. Rog what did

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Speaker 1: you think of of what you thought from Lebron's return? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked pretty good to me, Like there

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Speaker 1: was a few moments where he wasn't really have as

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Speaker 1: much burst as he usually does, but he had like

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Speaker 1: the huge dunk in the first half, And man, I

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Speaker 1: said like the Lakers were running without any point guards

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Speaker 1: right for a while there, and just to have to

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Speaker 1: go from no point guards to Lebron James running your offense,

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Speaker 1: it just looks so much more smooth. They had a

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Speaker 1: little scoring drought in the end, but he was getting

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Speaker 1: everyone in the right place, running the correct actions, telling

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Speaker 1: d to kind of come up. It was good to

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Speaker 1: see him back, and he just really just walked into

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Speaker 1: what I think he finished with like points, uh, nine assists,

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Speaker 1: He just really walked into that UM office in his

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Speaker 1: first game. Note he had not really that much rust

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Speaker 1: to me, had the biggest shots in the game in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter too. I liked. I thought he looked good.

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked fine. Um. He looked like himself,

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Speaker 1: which is the most important thing to me. I think

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Speaker 1: just seeing him like back out there playing with this

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Speaker 1: unit was the biggest thing. That's what this team needed.

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Speaker 1: These wins are really great to get out of the

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Speaker 1: planning game would be great, but just seeing Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Adie looked back themselves was cool, especially Lebron tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, there were three. They're kind of like three

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Speaker 1: One how he looks physically, to kind of what he

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Speaker 1: And then three like what what do you make of

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Speaker 1: the stuff like what happened at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: which which I want to touch on that as well

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Speaker 1: as far as how he looks physically. I thought everyone

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Speaker 1: overreacted a little bit to the dunk. Obviously it was amazing,

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Speaker 1: But you and I have been hitting on since the

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Speaker 1: and that's his best takeoff leg, and that you know,

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Speaker 1: for for what his right foot is, it's gonna mostly

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Speaker 1: manifest in my opinion on uh, kind of like off

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Speaker 1: to be that right leg pulling him forward, and all

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Speaker 1: of that is part of of his overall mobility above

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Speaker 1: and beyond you know him elevating and transition. I thought

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Speaker 1: you know, his stat line that you just that you

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Speaker 1: just laid out. I thought there were a couple of

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Speaker 1: so those are the kinds of plays that we should

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Speaker 1: and getting his legs back. Yeah, for sure. In indiana's

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Speaker 1: kind of like a nice team to come back against,

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Speaker 1: They had I think Goga blistered with their center. Right

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Speaker 1: Like you said, those uh, those two and one. So

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Speaker 1: And you're right, like he was really just relaxed to

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Speaker 1: to see him get back tomorrow. I think the Pelicans

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, there are all there. There are always

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Speaker 1: They kind of showed with this whole team. We talked

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Speaker 1: him coming back as well and just his conditioning because

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Speaker 1: he only played twenty seven minutes. I thought k CP

430
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Speaker 1: looked awesome, and I thought Kuzma looked awesome, And there's

431
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 1: no reason for there's no player that we're really worried

432
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Speaker 1: about at this point except for maybe Mark Keith Morris UM.

433
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Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is that they don't

434
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Speaker 1: need him as much as they needed him last year

435
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: because they have the guard depth to go um with

436
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Speaker 1: Lebron and a d at the four or five, and

437
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 1: because Kuzmas so much better. A lot of times Mark

438
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Speaker 1: Kith kind of played in the role that Kuzma was

439
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Speaker 1: in last year, so that I don't necessarily think keeps

440
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 1: cold shooting is as much of a worry as it

441
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Speaker 1: would have been last year where they really needed him

442
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Speaker 1: in those uh as in like a small ball five. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: I like your point on Samson with the Ployers because

444
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 1: I thought Carris Liver hit a like a lot of

445
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,879
Speaker 1: tough shots tonight, like a bunch of like step back fadeaways.

446
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you could really do much with so Like, Yeah,

447
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any questions with the rotation. I

448
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Speaker 1: would have liked marked at least get in there a

449
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 1: little bit, um, But it looks like they were just

450
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna they were just gonna sit in tonight, So I

451
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Speaker 1: guess I kind of wanted to move on. Like to

452
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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, what do you what do you see from him?

453
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Speaker 1: He had a huge first half one points. I think

454
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Speaker 1: in the first half he looks good, like again, he

455
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: looks like he's just uh like building off his last games, right,

456
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: like he's just continuing to get better. Um, his jumper

457
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Speaker 1: wasn't really falling because getting to the rim they had

458
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: no one to kind of stop him. Download what else

459
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Speaker 1: did you see from him? And I thought he would

460
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Speaker 1: I thought he really got going. I I thought he

461
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 1: played a great game. Um. You know the thing with

462
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Speaker 1: a d is that he that he's starting to figure

463
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: out too, is that he can actually kind of go

464
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Speaker 1: up over some of these double teams almost Joel almost

465
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Speaker 1: Joel and Bead style. Um, he had a two or

466
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Speaker 1: three of them like this today where he was on

467
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Speaker 1: the right block, you know, dribbling the strong hand and

468
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: and would would power dribble into the middle the double

469
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: would come. But when the double would come, he would

470
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Speaker 1: just kind of gather and go low and then rip

471
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Speaker 1: through and go up high and shoot his little hook shot.

472
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Speaker 1: And basically one of two things is gonna happen there.

473
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Speaker 1: You're gonna draw the foul or you're gonna get up

474
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Speaker 1: over everybody, in which case you have a really high

475
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Speaker 1: percentage hook shot there. And what I like about that

476
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: is it's an alternative counter two. Okay, I'm not seeing

477
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Speaker 1: the floor super well, I'm having trouble with these double teams.

478
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Speaker 1: How do I make him pay for doubling me? And

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Speaker 1: I think that's I think Joel Embiad has made a

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Speaker 1: living out of that this year, And I think that's

481
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Speaker 1: a great example of a way that he can kind

482
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Speaker 1: of counter that is just taking that kind of James Harden,

483
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: Joel embiad ripped through to the middle as he goes

484
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Speaker 1: into his hook shot. Um, you know, the big thing

485
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: is he's starting to get those easy shots again, to

486
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: the stuff from Lebron and pick and roll, because that's

487
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Speaker 1: how Ad hits that magic thirty number. Is he gets

488
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: lots of easy, easy stuff mixed in with his difficult stuff,

489
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Speaker 1: which then allows him to hit his numbers. But you know,

490
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Speaker 1: I think he continues to look great physically. I didn't

491
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Speaker 1: see him laboring the groin at all today, did you.

492
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Speaker 1: I thought he thought he looked great. Um, so I

493
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Speaker 1: I am cautiously optimistic that this can work. You know,

494
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Speaker 1: I think we need to be ready for some Lebron

495
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: sloppiness and turnovers and miss jump shots. I think we

496
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Speaker 1: need to be prepared for some defensive kinks just because

497
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Speaker 1: these guys have been played together a lot. But I

498
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Speaker 1: don't see any glaring concerns at this point. It kind

499
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Speaker 1: of seems to be coming together at the right time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The big indicator to me is his free throw attempts. Right.

501
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: He shot ten free throws again tonight, Like I thought

502
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Speaker 1: his aggressive this kind of waned down the stretch. I

503
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he got tired or something like. But

504
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: but again, ten free throws, that's awesome. He took eleven

505
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Speaker 1: shots in the first quarter, which I thought was huge.

506
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Speaker 1: Just seeing him still aggressive with Lebron out there right

507
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: Lebron said, like you said, get some really easy looks.

508
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: A lot of screen action with him, him and Shrewder,

509
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Speaker 1: I thought built a little bit of chemistry. As the

510
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: game went on, Shrewder found him on a on a

511
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: few drives UM, and again just seeing him look like himself.

512
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest thing going to the playoffs.

513
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Those two have to look right.

514
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Speaker 1: All this other stuff is kind of It's kind of

515
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: still gravy to me. I'm getting to win, um. Everyone

516
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: else kind of getting the role Shrewder getting back from

517
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: from COVID and everything. But those two they look like

518
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Speaker 1: they're they're rolling as the playoffs go here. So hopefully

519
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: they can get the win tomorrow UM and then try

520
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: to stay out of this, stay out of this playing

521
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: if Denver can win tomorrow. But a D I thought

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Speaker 1: it looked really really good. His three still UM didn't

523
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Speaker 1: fall tonight. He was one for four from three, but

524
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Speaker 1: he had two offensive rebounds like he was attacking the

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Speaker 1: glass double double ten boards um and again just I

526
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Speaker 1: thought he was impactful. He wasn't. He wasn't the defender

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Speaker 1: that he was against New York, right, Like I didn't

528
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Speaker 1: think he didn't he didn't bring with yeah, the whole

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Speaker 1: team again, like they looked like they were playing at

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Speaker 1: tenning m Like it looked very much like a super

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Speaker 1: super early game, just try to get the game out

532
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Speaker 1: of the way kind of thing. But he looked, he

533
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Speaker 1: looked good. I thought, is he was moving well, which

534
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. You You touched on this

535
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Speaker 1: a second ago, and it was an interesting, uh kind

536
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: of side plot there. A D was a lot more

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Speaker 1: aggressive when Lebron went to the bench at the halfway

538
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Speaker 1: through the first quarter, and that's kind of when he

539
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Speaker 1: got going. And the thing is is, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit too much of an

541
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Speaker 1: unselfishness thing that goes on between the two of them,

542
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: and Lebron will snap out of it and crunch time

543
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: and he'll start shooting. But the truth of the matter

544
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: is is you're right. A D needs to be that

545
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: aggressive when Lebron is on the floor because Lebron wants

546
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: him to look Lebron's whole basketball identity is like he's

547
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Speaker 1: going to have his phases where he's super aggressive, but

548
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: outside of that, he's begging you guys to be aggressive.

549
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: He's begging shooters to to to to fire away if

550
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: there's an inch of space. He's begging guys to go

551
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: up and pick and roll and try to draw foul,

552
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: try to get something going. And so I hope to

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Speaker 1: see more of that from a D. And as far

554
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Speaker 1: as his three point shooting goes like that is p

555
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: would have been my biggest nitpick of him um this

556
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: season is the lack of three point shot volume, because

557
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a huge part of his game

558
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: in the postseason and it's a huge part of the

559
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Lakers spacing getting getting You know, the difference between Rudy

560
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Gobert being a non factor in that type of series

561
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: and him kind of being a factor is gonna come

562
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Speaker 1: down to a D being an aggressive three point shooter,

563
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, because at the end of the day, it's

564
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Speaker 1: not about whether or not he makes a few of them.

565
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: It's about whether or not Gobert guards him out there.

566
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Speaker 1: And the only way that Gobert or an Eton or

567
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: a zoobots whoever, whoever it is that they go against

568
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: the only way they're going to go out there is

569
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Speaker 1: if he's taken six or seven of them a game.

570
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: And I think that's so important and and and I

571
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Speaker 1: think he can get those attempts without disrupting the rest

572
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Speaker 1: of his offense, Like it doesn't fatigue him, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers will be happy with him taking

574
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Speaker 1: more shots. So I think I think that's an easy

575
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: fixed for for some of his rhythm stuff. It's just

576
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: just happen be a little bit more aggressive if he

577
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Speaker 1: catches and has a look at the rim from three. Yeah,

578
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: it's much more important when you're playing playing with like

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Speaker 1: a nonspacing five, right, Like, it has to be the

580
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: one that that's shooting. If he's at the five, you

581
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: can kind of get away with it a little bit more.

582
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: You can run more street actions, have him dive into

583
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: the rim. But he's playing next to Treads and Drummond.

584
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: He has to take those three. So one for four,

585
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Speaker 1: I'm glad he's even taking him, you know, even if

586
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Speaker 1: he's not making them. Um, he's taking four. He took

587
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: four tonight, which I think was good. Some of them

588
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: were I think more contested than than others, but yeah,

589
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: he has to shoot them. I think if he's playing

590
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: next to like Marcusol and the Market kind of be

591
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: the spacer, right like, he can be the one on

592
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: the paint and then mark and kind of take those threes.

593
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: But he has a big part of the playoffs. His

594
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: whole jumper was a huge part of the playoffs, right

595
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Like I think his mid range games still, um, it

596
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: wasn't great tonight, but he got a lot at the rim,

597
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: so I thought that was fine. But if he's not

598
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: comfortable shooting him in the mid range, like, I don't

599
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: think he's gonna go and bomb threes, Like, I just

600
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's how it works for him. He's gonna

601
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: build inside out kind of thing, hit those ompers, get

602
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: his rhythm going, and then from there kind of bringing

603
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: out to three. But you're right, if he's playing next

604
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: to Drummonds facing five, he has to take those for sure. Yeah,

605
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I agree. And then the last thing I had on

606
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: my list that we can touch on and then we

607
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: can if you have anything else, and then we can

608
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: get to some guests. But I you know, th HD

609
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I thought at a sloppy, sloppy game, defensively, but I

610
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: think we should give all the Lakers a pass and

611
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: that or I should say we should collectively blame all

612
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers, not um uh, you know, not single anybody out.

613
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: But on the offensive end, I really liked what THHD

614
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: did off the ball. And you know, there I was

615
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: listening to the Laker film podcasts yesterday or possibly the

616
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: day before. They were kind of bouncing some ideas off about,

617
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, how th HD is an on ball player

618
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: and how he's most comfortable when the ball is in

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00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: his hands. And while I do agree with that, I

620
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: actually think he's a good off ball option because he

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00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: is capable of making more complex catd attacking closeouts in

622
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: a more complicated way, like you know the k cps

623
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: of this roster, the Wesley Matthews types of guys. They

624
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: can knock down an open shot, they can pump, baken, sidestep,

625
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: and if the guy blows by and take a shot,

626
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: they can put the ball on the floor once or

627
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: twice and maybe kick it out to a shooter or

628
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: get all the way to the rim. But like PhD

629
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: has the ability too, after he's attacked the clothes out

630
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: to make a counter move or secondary move and he

631
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: can make the more complicated passes out of those closeouts.

632
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: And I thought today it was a great example of

633
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: th h t being awesome off the ball. Um He

634
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: knocked down a couple of open threes in the first

635
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: half and in the second half off of kickouts from Lebron,

636
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: which is going to be the most important thing if

637
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: he wants to try to play, just because of the

638
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: way spacing is gonna work. But then he also had

639
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of these really nice clothes out attacks where

640
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: he got into the lane and either either created something

641
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: at the rim that led to an offensive rebound put

642
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: back or drop off to Montrez and lane for a dunk.

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Speaker 1: That kind of stuff, I think. Is it the the

644
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: ability to really make a team pay for being sloppy

645
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: on their clothesouts. I think is a is a is

646
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: a huge asset, and you know, I still think those

647
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: minutes have to go to to t a two caruso. However,

648
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: if he can figure out that defensive end and he

649
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: can be that successful off ball, I think that is

650
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: a better option than McLamore and possibly in a shrunken rotation,

651
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: a better option than Wesley Matthews, depending on the matchup,

652
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: So I think there is an opportunity for him to play.

653
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: If he's gonna play like this, It's just about being consistent.

654
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: It's about being dependable. It can't be something that he's

655
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 1: you know, sloppy one night and then has it all

656
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: together the next. He has to be a veteran in

657
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: that regard. So I think I think I've changed for

658
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: a little bit from being no way he should play two.

659
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: This might work if he if he's a little bit

660
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: more work persistent. Yeah, I thought he looked awesome next

661
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: to the starters, right, and then you could tell like

662
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: all those like ball handling duties that he had that

663
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: they had to do when Lebron and Trudeau route, they

664
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of paid dividends. Like he looks like he's grown

665
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: up as likes a playmaker, like a player, right, not

666
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: as many crazy turnovers anymore. Like he's driving with some

667
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: like purpose. He gets the rim to try to finance.

668
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: He had a really nice finish and transition that I

669
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: just thought was special, Like he got to the rim um,

670
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: went through contact, flipped it up the reverse on the

671
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: other side. Just skills that like a lot of dudes

672
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: just don't have. I don't I just don't want him

673
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: playing next to like because he played in that lineup

674
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: with like Ben macklemore um. And then also I think

675
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Treads was the five there, right, and he had Kuzuma

676
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: at the four. Just a really small lineup, really bad

677
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: defensive lineup in total, right, so you can put him

678
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: next to like two and three other defenders, like, it's

679
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: just not really gonna gonna go well. But I thought

680
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: he looked awesome next to the to the starting lineup.

681
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: He he hit his threes really confidently, right, like he

682
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: catches you really in inconfidence. And yeah, I thought he

683
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: looked he looked good tonight, like he looks like he's

684
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: grown up. Like I don't know if those those dividends

685
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: are going to play off in the playoffs. Was if

686
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: you'll get those minutes. I still think like you said,

687
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I think Cruzi will get those get that time or

688
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: West Matthews maybe a lot more shrewder maybe, but he

689
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: has the talent, Like like the ceiling raises if he's better,

690
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's there's a lower

691
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: floor there because of his defense on off wall. But

692
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: I just think he had a really good game. It

693
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: looked like that way his office shoulders like him playing

694
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: next to Lebron was so cool because he doesn't have

695
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: to like bring it up have the possession of the

696
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: full time. He can kind of run off, runoff actions

697
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: and attack attack already compromised defense exactly. That's the key.

698
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: The when the defense has already compromised, a talented player

699
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: can make you pay. Like this is always the biggest

700
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: problem with you know, Lebron's Calves teams is he would

701
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: compromise the defense, but if it wasn't an open three,

702
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: they just couldn't beat you in any sort of other action.

703
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: And you know what makes k CP so good is

704
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: how good he is not just a shooting but at

705
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: attacking the closeouts to get to the rim. And having

706
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: another guy like that like th HD on the floor,

707
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: it could work. And that's my big key there is

708
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I think this could work and it definitely

709
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: bodes well for the future and what th h T

710
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: looks like with an older Lebron and with you know,

711
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: a d in the heart of his prime as just

712
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: like this bona fide third option, who can you know,

713
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: go on Dennis Shrewder esque spurts as a score but

714
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: then kind of default into an off ball weapon and

715
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: then just be a dominant defensive player. And I you know,

716
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: he's been a roller coaster for me this year personally,

717
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: just you know, thinking about what his potential is and

718
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: how he kind of fits into the timeline of this team.

719
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: But he's so aheaded, he's so aheaded schedule from all

720
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: of these quality reps that, like, I think there's really

721
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: good reason to be optimistic that he can actually be

722
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: an impactful playoff player at some point in this Lebron

723
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: in a D experience, which is pretty exciting. Yeah, And

724
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: it looks like they trust him right Like he closed

725
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: the game tonight, he was the first sub off the

726
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: bench as well. Um, they trust him to play. And

727
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get playoff minutes. Not like in

728
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, every possession is it matters a lot more

729
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: so you can't have these like defensive lapses. And I

730
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: think Vogel will will press the right buttons there. But

731
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna play and his talent is there for sure,

732
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: and it looks like he's he's like I said, he's

733
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: growing up every single game. I think those those reps

734
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: really did like are going to pay dividends here, like

735
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: him be able to just be able to create, be

736
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: able to make mistakes right. Usually you don't get that

737
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: on a championship team. You don't get guys who are

738
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: twenty who are able to kind of play through mistakes,

739
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: but just because of injuries and you know, bad luck

740
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: with bad luck with injuries. He's he was able to

741
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: do that and really build reps that he wasn't able

742
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: to do last year. You got a couple of minutes

743
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year as well. But this year

744
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: it feels like a really nice, uh nice year for him,

745
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be He's gonna be a

746
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: big time rotation guy in the playoffs if I I agree.

747
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: If not this year, then in the future. Um, did

748
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: you have anything else you wanted to touch on before

749
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: we get some guests up here? I? Uh no, I

750
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: think that was all I had here. So, yeah, if

751
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: you want to get your request in, we'll bring some

752
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: people up and uh yeah, we'll get this coming. Yeah,

753
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: we'll go for about we'll go for about thirty minutes. Guys,

754
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: go to as many as we can get to. All right,

755
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 1: let's start with I think Joe, Joe, what's going on, man, Hey, Joe,

756
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: can hear its? Tho? Hey, what's going on? Guys? Hey?

757
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: I did not get to see the game. Um, I

758
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: followed on Twitter. I had a question about Drummond and

759
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: handling some of uh, Lebron's passes seemed like he wasn't

760
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: really ready for them. Did you see any frustration from

761
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Lebron or just kinda know that it's gonna take some

762
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: time for those two to jail, thank y'all. Man, I

763
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: thought it more or less looked the same as uh

764
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: as it did with other players, in the sense that

765
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a lot of traffic around, if

766
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: it's if it doesn't hit him squarely, and uh in

767
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: the hands, he has trouble handling things. But at the

768
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: end of the day, like, I'm not gonna be too

769
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: hyper critical of Lebron and a d pick and roll

770
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: action this early, because you know the Drummond test to

771
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: learn you know when when to expect it from Lebron,

772
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: which is literally always and understand that that that he

773
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: has to stay ready. And that's some of the stuff

774
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: that Shrewder missed, some of the stuff that Crusoe and

775
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: THHD missed. Lebron is not gonna miss when things break

776
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: open and and his anticipation will have to all he'll

777
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: always have to be anticipating that kind of stuff. So

778
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: I I I didn't think. I didn't necessarily notice anything

779
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: problematic about that today, and I I don't think it's

780
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think we have enough data yet to necessarily

781
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: judge that. Yeah, that's only it's only drum in second

782
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: game right with Lebron. I think today he'll get used

783
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: to it, um, and but he'll get used to playing

784
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: with Lebron eventually. There were some places where I don't

785
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: think he was expecting the ball at all. Right, Lebron

786
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: dropped it to him. He's like when you made that past.

787
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, he'll get used to playing with him. And

788
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: again there's like not that much space as Lebron is

789
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: really threading the needle Drummond catches. They were like two

790
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: people around and that's just not what he's good at

791
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: right finishing there. So the buff of them will learn

792
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: each other's games. Thank you, Joy, I appreciate it. Thanks,

793
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: you appreciate you. Man. Let's see my guy Tom, Tom,

794
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: what's up man, what's up? Fellas? Thanks for having me?

795
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: How are you doing today? Always pleasure. Guys, I wanted

796
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: to ask y'all what you thought about Shrewder today definitely

797
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: didn't have the legs missing short, But we got maybe

798
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: two games max for the real playoffs start, and this

799
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: dude just came back from COVID. Maybe we maybe already

800
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: had questions about whether he could defend in the playoffs

801
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: to begin with. So I'm just curious about, like, do

802
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: you think they might, you know, mess around with his rotation,

803
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, like kind of trim those minutes. What's the

804
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: Sugger perspective in your guys minds appreciate Joe. So, first

805
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: of all, I think that Dennis, if he was going

806
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: to come off the bench in any capacity, it would

807
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: have been in a game like today, you know, under

808
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: the circumstances. I think there's some sort of uh spoken

809
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: agreement between him and the coaching staff that he expects

810
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to start. I think that's part of their pursuit of

811
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: him in free agency and just part of of kind

812
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: of his ego, which is fine, Like I get it,

813
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: he's a pro, he's very good basketball player. He should

814
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: have an ego as far as defensively. The only thing

815
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: that really concerns me with him is teams like the Clippers,

816
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: teams that will attack and switches and shoot over the top,

817
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: because the Lakers are good at forcing you to take

818
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: difficult shots. But you know, guys like Caruso, guys like

819
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: Shuder in particular against bigger scoring wings, I have a

820
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: vulnerability there. But I think the Lakers have an audible

821
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: to go away from him in that case by going

822
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: with lineups with more wet sin Kuzma and just more

823
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: size on the wing where they can where they can

824
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: make them shoot over a little bit more difficult of

825
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: a contest. But you know, I thought he had some

826
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: sloppiness today, Like you said, he was short on those jumpers.

827
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: I think he has to be super aggressive on those threes.

828
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: That's so important for the Lakers in their spacing. But

829
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: for me personally, he's been so good this year. He

830
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: has he's he's built up so much equity with me

831
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: personally that like, I can go with the bumps as

832
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: he gets back into shape from this COVID thing and

833
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: even just the general inconvenience that this COVID thing was

834
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: for the team. He's just been so good this year

835
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: that I think he's earned earned a reprieve from all

836
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: of us, and I'm I'm kind of I I'm a

837
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: big believer in what he brings to the team. Yeah,

838
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: I felt like he was moving pretty well. I don't

839
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: know if you if he found that way as well. Talk.

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00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: I thought he was looked. He looked like he moved well.

841
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: He just his shots were kind of short. Um he

842
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: had for aces. I expected like turnovers tonight, Like he

843
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: was not going to be in a rhythm first game back,

844
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: but I thought he'd like really made an impact. Still,

845
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: his defense is gonna be there. I don't I think

846
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna start most of the game, but I still

847
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: think they'll probably close maybe with Crusoe and a few matchups.

848
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: If that happens, like they'll just pick a different closing

849
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: line up. I feel like he's gonna start most of

850
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the games on the playoffs. Did you see that as well, Tom,

851
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: did you feel like it was at least moving well?

852
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't like, uh impacts of that for him? It

853
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: was okay. It was probably better than I was expecting.

854
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: I guess like some of that like really fast first step,

855
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: get to the rim, stuff, like just the big energy question,

856
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, not just having COVID, but like not playing

857
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: in two weeks, you know, but I I I'm just

858
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: curious because it wasn't the most perfect fit with Shooter

859
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: bron A D. That starting lineup with Kassol was good

860
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: all year, right, it's good. But I'm just curious about

861
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: kind of with the circumstance with the Lakers starting Crusoe

862
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: during them putting it together with a D looking good

863
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: on the defensive end, and Crusoe actually starting to play

864
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: make and like make threes, you know, contribute on offense

865
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: a little more. I'm just curious, like, maybe not start Crusoe,

866
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: but if we see a quicker hook which from from shooters.

867
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: So appreciate the inside Doug, guys, thanks to appreciate you see.

868
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: But Celio, are you there? Hey, how are you doing? Republic? Awesome? Man,

869
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: that's far one of my honeymoon. Yeah, I'm not talking

870
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: about I heard about the can today. But what do

871
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: you think about this toast to my ship for the

872
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: Lakers in the first round? Gets or sons? So, I

873
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: mean they are now. Roger and I've talked about this

874
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: in the past. I tend to think the Lakers are

875
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: a better matchup for the Suns in terms of an

876
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: easier first round series. But I think that if you're

877
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: ranking Western Conference upon it's that the team that they

878
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: need to be most worried about as the Clippers, So

879
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: anybody other than them, I think is the better option.

880
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: Um The thing with Phoenix is, as we learned, they

881
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: literally cannot guard Anthony Davis, So that just completely changes

882
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: the geometry of the entire series, even without Lebron and

883
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: and uh and Also, the Lakers are just so gifted

884
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: at defending guards. It's the strength of their team, um

885
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and and that's basically what Phoenix leans on for the

886
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: most part, and their primary isolation player, Devin Booker, is

887
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: of a more manageable size for the Laker guards to

888
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: deal with and switches, so at least you know he's

889
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: not going to be getting easy, easy, easy shots based

890
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: on his physical tools, you know. I just I just

891
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: think that that matchup makes more sense for the Lakers.

892
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: But what's crazy is with with there's so many different

893
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: ways this could break out. The Lakers could play It

894
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: looks like they could play Denver in the first round.

895
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: They could play the Sons in the first round, like,

896
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: it looks like it could be anything at this point. Yeah,

897
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: it looks like it's not gonna be the Clippers though,

898
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: right with the Clippers losing yesterday throwing the throwing that

899
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: game against Houston, so um, it looks like what if

900
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Denver throws tomorrow? Though, if Denver throws tomorrow against Portland, oh,

901
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: and then they'd still be in the then we'll be

902
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: in the plane. You're right, Yeah, So the Clippers effectively

903
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: just does no matter what exactly. So we'll probably most

904
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: likely play Denver or Phoenix. And to me, like, I

905
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: think Phoenix is just we touched on it a lot.

906
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I think that's an awesome matchup for US. I feel

907
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: like we have the best guard kind of defenders in

908
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: the league and those two that team kind of lives

909
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: off its guards, Devin Booker, Chris Paul and then they

910
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: have no matchup for Anthony Davis, let alone Lebron James

911
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: whatever he's gonna do due to them as well. I

912
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: think mckel bridges is a really good defender, but again,

913
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 1: very little playoff experience, right for Phoenix, like he would

914
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: get bullied by physical That's a that's a good team

915
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: to kind of go against. I'm higher on Utah, I

916
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: think than a lot of people are. I think they're

917
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: the second toughest behind the Clippers. Um, so to avoid

918
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Demosol would be good. So I think they'll be Phoenix

919
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: would be a good matchup. Denver would probably be the

920
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: one that we both want the most right out of that,

921
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: out of that, out of all those teams, and it

922
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: looks like they might play them at Denver Denver doesn't

923
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: throw the game tomorrow against Portland. Lucy, thank you, man,

924
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. A guy merged, what's going on? Merge,

925
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys? Um, how you're doing today? Good?

926
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Well man? Good? Um. I had a couple of questions.

927
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I actually had a comment about the shrewter thing that

928
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Tom brought up, but it did seem Mike, he did

929
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: have a bit quicker of a hook. Uh. She was

930
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: coming in around the six and a half seven minute

931
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: murder um not. I think shooter normally comes down a

932
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: little later in the first of the third quarter. UM.

933
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: And I think she was playing the Cruiso role today

934
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: since they're arresting Cruso, So I do think Cruiso we'll

935
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: get a little more minutes with those starters, just because

936
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: he didn't look really good in that role, and he

937
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: just historically is very good with Lebron and a d um.

938
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: The second thing is going away from the game with

939
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: Kobe being inducted today in the Hall of Fame. Uh,

940
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: what is your guys favorite Coby moments? Um? Maybe not

941
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: one that like a lot of people talk about, but

942
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: maybe a little more underrated Kobe moment. Do you wanna

943
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: go first? Go ahead? Okay, Well, I guess I can

944
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: start with the start with the Kobe moment. I guess, uh,

945
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: which is awesome shout out to Kobe getting inducted into

946
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. I think that's that's awesome. We'll

947
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: be able to watch it. I think it's out around

948
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: two thirty is the ceremony, So it would be nice

949
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: and nice to see that. My favorite Kobe moment. It's

950
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: I guess everyone knows about this one, but I guess

951
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: it's just the game seven kind of that. I think

952
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: they were up. They were he was like he wasn't

953
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: able to get a shot all night, and then I

954
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: was like the fourth quarter he did a right right

955
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: step triple pull up jumper put us up for and

956
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I knew the game was over. Um, teenage meat was

957
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: I was really excited. So I think that was I

958
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: think that's my favorite code moment, how about you, Jason.

959
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: So obviously I have lots of favorite Kobe moments, but

960
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: my my personal favorite was his first game back after

961
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: the Achilles. So, uh, if you guys remember at this

962
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: point in time, like we've recently seen some guys come

963
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: back from Achilles repairs and looked pretty good, So the

964
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: Achilles injury has like a different vibe now, but back then,

965
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: there wasn't really any example recently, and so I think

966
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: everybody kind of just assumed Kobe was done. And when

967
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: when he came back, and if you guys remember he

968
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: was wearing that they were wearing the black short sleeve jerseys,

969
00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: and he drove baseline and did a reverse dunk uh

970
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: uh like kind of like like double pump reverse skunk

971
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: on the other side of the rim, and it was,

972
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, the highlight of the night. And it was

973
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: all this, uh, you know, a lot of crazy excitement

974
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: about it. But in that one moment, I remember thinking, like,

975
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: this dude's really going to come back from his Achilles

976
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: and still be Kobe, which is just crazy to even

977
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: think about now. As it turned out, you know, he

978
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: never really kind of materialized into anything but in that moment,

979
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: like just because Kobe's Kobe, Like you just couldn't believe

980
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: it that this old dude who had torn his achilles

981
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: had somehow come back and was, you know, doing a

982
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: double pump reverse dunk in a in an NBA game.

983
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: Like it's just you couldn't even fathom it. But like

984
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: you just your your brain was always open to that

985
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: sort of thing because it was Kobe. Um. But you

986
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: know that. I think that's just one of obviously many

987
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: many moments. Yeah, I like the eighties story as well.

988
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: He said, like I think Kobe disliquated his shoulder or

989
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: something like that, and he still went out and played

990
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: and hit like a left hand jumper or something on

991
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: the next positions like the hell man, people people don't

992
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, shout out, shout out Kobe going

993
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. I guess merge or second

994
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: you're at the point was like the th I think

995
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: he said Tsu was the first sub Is that right? Yeah?

996
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: I said that the Tsu was kind of playing the

997
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: Crusoe role today and he came in for shooter around

998
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: like the seven minute market and that's normally uh shooter

999
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: normally comes out around like the five for minute market normally,

1000
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that was just a product

1001
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: of him coming back today or if it was sort

1002
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: of what we can see moving forward with you know,

1003
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Crusoe coming around that seven minute mark and him playing

1004
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: more minutes with that starting unit. Yeah, I feel like

1005
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: I feel like that was more shooters just they're they're

1006
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,959
Speaker 1: being careful with his minutes, right, That's what I thought

1007
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: it was coming out really early. And also he didn't

1008
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: close the game either, so I thought he would have

1009
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: closed tonight because I thought he played well in that

1010
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: second half. He was really aggressive. I thought he got

1011
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: more comfortable. Um, his speaking role passes got better, he

1012
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: was finding Harold and even a D on those roles.

1013
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was He looked good. So I feel

1014
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 1: like that was more just a product of him trying

1015
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: to get back, get his conditioning back, um, And I

1016
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: thought that was why. And t HD also played well,

1017
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: so correct to him. But I just thought that's why

1018
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: he came out so early. About you, J, did you

1019
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: see that same thing? Yeah, I agree, I don't think

1020
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it was associated with a quick hook

1021
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: so to speak. I think it was just them managing

1022
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: his return from from covid M. I, like I said,

1023
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: the only scenario where I see him really being displaced

1024
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: from his normal rotation uh a minute is going to

1025
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: be against the team that's attacking him and switches, because

1026
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: everywhere else in the game he kinda fulfills his purpose.

1027
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Like he's not a great spot up three point shooter,

1028
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: but he's gonna knock down enough of them that you

1029
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: have to guard him. And on the defensive end, against

1030
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: anybody other than a really quick or other than a

1031
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: really big wing, he's great. He's great at the point

1032
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: of attack. He's a great ball pressure player. He's a

1033
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: great defender to have just to make them struggle to

1034
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: get into their offense, maybe initiating things that you know,

1035
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: twelve the teen seconds instead of nineteen seconds. And there's

1036
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: a ton of value he brings everywhere else on the floor.

1037
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing too, is you know

1038
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Roj you've hit on this several times. You know Lebron.

1039
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Uh They're gonna be a lot of teams, especially the Clippers,

1040
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: are gonna ball pressure Lebron all game long, uh in

1041
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: in in an attempt to just wear him down. And

1042
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: I think having that release valve of shrewder to bring

1043
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: the ball up the floor is so valuable, and you know,

1044
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: it's not as shaky as it is with a th

1045
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: h T or Caruso where you're worried about turnovers or

1046
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: then making some mistakes. Like Shooter, you can depend on

1047
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: to do to fulfill that role. So I still think

1048
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: as far as the rotation goes, he's gonna be there

1049
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: unless he's getting attacked by a bigger win consistently and switches,

1050
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: So I expect him to be, you know, in all

1051
00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: of their key lineups. First, appreciate you appreciate image. M hmm,

1052
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: all right, see Pedro are you there? Yeah? What's up? Many?

1053
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? Let me man, I'm just

1054
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: anxis been looking at the standings all weekend long, So

1055
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: let's have we got a chance to get that six

1056
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: seed at least? Yeah, it's in it's in play. Um

1057
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: My guest, if I had to guess, would be that

1058
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: the Nuggets would throw that game tomorrow because that would

1059
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: allow them to avoid the Lakers in the first round.

1060
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken. If Denver wins tomorrow, they're effectively

1061
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: signing up to play the Lakers. In the first round.

1062
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: So I'm my guess is that Denver will, like kind

1063
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: of you know, subtenly tank that game tomorrow. Let Portland

1064
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: get six, they'll take five or four because they'd rather

1065
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: play Dallas, and then you'd end up with Dallas and

1066
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: Denver and you'd end up with the Clippers and Blazers

1067
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: and then the Lakers in the plan. That's my guest.

1068
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: But we'll see what happens. Yeah, I just I don't

1069
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: think Denver will we'll throw the game. I just don't

1070
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: feel like that's something I do. But we'll see. I

1071
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: guess it'd be great to avoid that play playing we

1072
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: already avoided. That's what we wanted, most of the fans wanted,

1073
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: I think, to avoid the Clippers at least until that

1074
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals or even the second round. However, that however,

1075
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: that however, that goes. But yeah, we can get to

1076
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: get out of play and the six he played Denver.

1077
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a win, and there's a chance tomorrow.

1078
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't see Denver throwing the game,

1079
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: but but we'll see. That would be the very best

1080
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: case scenario. Like if you could have told us, well

1081
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: when Shrewder went down with COVID, and when Lebron was

1082
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: like never mind, I'm not back yet, and when a

1083
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: d was looking like a shell of himself, which was

1084
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: the low point of the Laker season. You know, a

1085
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, if you would have told us,

1086
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: then don't worry, You'll be playing Dallas or Denver in

1087
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: the first round six seed, no playing blah blah blah.

1088
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: Every Laker fan would have signed up for that a heartbeat,

1089
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: because it was looking the leak at that point. So

1090
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: I would say that, uh, if if Denver wins tomorrow,

1091
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: that would be your best case scenario for the Lakers.

1092
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: Can I find s about Denver? Just that, Like, if

1093
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm Denver, and tell me if I'm crazy, right, I

1094
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: don't expect to win the title this year based on

1095
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: for our injuries. I say, win the game, play the

1096
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: Lakers and get xp against them, see him again, fight

1097
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: him again, like let's go. I know that's crazy, maybe,

1098
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: but like, is it so crazy just throwing it out there? No?

1099
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: I like it. And then if you're gonna lose, you'd

1100
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: rather lose to like the Lakers than draw, Yeah, because

1101
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: then you're like too. It was Lebron and a d

1102
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: well like we might have lost with Jamal, you know,

1103
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: like that you could look at it different. For sure.

1104
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: I saw like Terry Stotts is I think the Portland coach, Um,

1105
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: he had this quote, and I feel like a lot

1106
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: of other kind of coaches probably believe the sentiments like

1107
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: you're kind of messing with, um the basketball gods as

1108
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: they sail on like room in podcast or just with

1109
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: Karmen all those things kind of like losing a game

1110
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: to avoid a team, right, you're just kind of just

1111
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: messing with like bad do do bad energy. I feel

1112
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: like like I just feel like most teams, um, I don't.

1113
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't see them throwing the game like the Clippers

1114
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: did yesterday. So I just don't. I just don't see

1115
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: that happening. It could be you can throw a game

1116
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Yeah, that's like you can

1117
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: throw a game, like the Lakers throw games just when

1118
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: they don't when they don't, I'm not deliberately throw games,

1119
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: but there are games when they come out and they're

1120
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: just like like we're not gonna play tonight, like like

1121
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: the Clippers game like last week. I mean that it

1122
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: makes sense just deliberately like avoiding a I'm a playoff opponent.

1123
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: I guess feels a little different, right, Like you're kind

1124
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: of just choosing who you'd rather kind of play in

1125
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: that situation. I just think it's a little different there.

1126
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't see them throwing the game. But maybe I'm wrong.

1127
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they just sit your kids M p J tomorrow

1128
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: and just they go crazy. Let me simplify it here,

1129
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: because I agree with you that it's it's playing with

1130
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: the basketball gods. I agree with you. Yeah, let's just

1131
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: put it this way. I think Denver without Murray is

1132
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: a better team in Portland's. But I think Portland's gonna

1133
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: win tomorrow, no other details. That's what I expect that

1134
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: could happen. Yeah, yeah, that's fair because I mean i'd

1135
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: be very touch tough matchup for them anyway because about Murray.

1136
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: M hmm, exactly. Yeah, joke, it goes off, you know,

1137
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: m VP mode or something. But very much, thank you, Pedro,

1138
00:54:53,840 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Let's see. I think, yeah, well it's quite

1139
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: on many. Oh, how's it going? Y and man um,

1140
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I was just reflecting on like the crazy week Lakers

1141
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: have had. Like I remember the moment, you know, like

1142
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: getting the Clippers game when a d turned his ankle

1143
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: on that board, and like just the lowness that made

1144
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: me feel like I I at that moment, I just

1145
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: didn't think, you know, we could repeat. Like I've been

1146
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: watching Lebron, Like I'm I'm mainly just a Lebron James fan,

1147
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, but like I've been watching him since,

1148
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: like you know, and like just like every most of

1149
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: the seasons he has besides last year, like there's always

1150
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: a low point in the regular season, just like remind myself,

1151
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: like they always he always finds a way to come

1152
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: back from that, you know, and like make it to

1153
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: the finals unless he's injured. So like, especially after watching

1154
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: performance today, the way he flew on that alley, Like

1155
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident about the playoffs, you know, Like I

1156
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: think as long as we're no no injuries happen until then,

1157
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: I think I think we can basically book a final strip.

1158
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: Like I know that sounds cocky, but like the Clippers

1159
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: scared me a little bit, but like, as long as

1160
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: we're good, I think we beat everybody. So I just

1161
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: like I know it's kind of ultra positive, but it's

1162
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: just like kind of I'm feeling up here today it's

1163
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: good to see the Lakers line up fully healthy well

1164
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: for starters. We uh, we value your optimism. This is

1165
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: this has been a season where optimism has been needed. UM.

1166
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: I do think it's very important to delineate between a

1167
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: normal Lebron apathetic regular season in this one because, to

1168
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: be frank like, we've never seen in his career this

1169
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: type of circumstance. Um. That doesn't mean I'm not optimistic

1170
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: because I think I think, like Roger and I have

1171
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: talked about a lot on this podcast, we aren't as

1172
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: concerned about his athleticism as we are with a D,

1173
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: and a D looks so great physically and Lebron looks

1174
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: good enough physically that I think there is a reason

1175
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: to be optimistic. UM. I just don't think this was apathy.

1176
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: This was this was Lebron the dude who is probably

1177
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the best player in the world, like suffered a contact

1178
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: ankle injury that held him out for what was the

1179
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: out of thirty games. So this was this was a

1180
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: real significant issue. UM, and I think it's it appears

1181
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: to be something that they can survive. I would say

1182
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: that I'm probably less optimistic than you. UM. I think

1183
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: I think that I think that they're in for a war,

1184
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: uh and against the Clippers, and I think that, uh

1185
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: that they'll probably get pushed a little bit in one

1186
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: of these early rounds when they're sloppy and a little

1187
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: bit out of shape and lacking continuity. Um, But I

1188
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: do I do think that I think that we're I

1189
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: think this play our Friends gonna look very different than

1190
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: last year. In my opinion. I think it's gonna be

1191
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: a lot of long series, that's my guess. Yeah, I

1192
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: mean I could see this, I could see the same thing. Um,

1193
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: he he looked good tonight, but like I thought he

1194
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: was moving. Well. This is why I want to get

1195
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: out of the playing game though, because I just don't

1196
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: want Lebron to have to like just go crazy in

1197
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: one game. Right you have to ramp it all up

1198
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: right away, get into a series, be able to like

1199
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, set down kind of read a team, um

1200
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: and attack him the way he wants to. I mean,

1201
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: he loses game ones to get losing game once a lot,

1202
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: but but still like I just like that he's able

1203
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: to go into a go into a team and kind

1204
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: of play them instead of have to go through this

1205
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: this playing kind of stuff. So if you can go

1206
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: through that get away from the Clippers, and the West

1207
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: is good. Man, there's no bad teams in the West,

1208
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: like Denver being I say this a lot, Denver being

1209
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: the prize of the West kind of shows how good

1210
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: the West is. Right, the team is still freaking good.

1211
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: MPJ is really good. Yo Kich is the m v

1212
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: P most likely, Like that's a really freaking good team

1213
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: and that's a team where we're aiming for to play. Like,

1214
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: just think about that in terms of the West, the

1215
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: top of the West. Right, you can't a Portland or

1216
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: any of those teams. But still that makes it's gonna

1217
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 1: be a tough, tough, tough road. But Lebron and a

1218
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: D are healthy. Like, my only thing is with the

1219
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: chemistry thing shrewder A D and Lebron played there twenty

1220
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: fifth game tonight, which against just with nothing in a

1221
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: full season. That's not only concern. But those two are healthy.

1222
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: You should be able to get out those rounds. Maybe

1223
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: it's the longer series a D Lebron ramping up. Maybe

1224
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: those series are longer, but if they can just be

1225
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: in rhythm going to like the Clipper series, um, I

1226
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: think I'll feel fine. I think You're right. I don't

1227
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a hot cake walk to the finals.

1228
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Though this is a really good league. Forget West is

1229
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: a good league this year is a lot of really

1230
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: good teams on both sides of the conference. Yeah. Yeah,

1231
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: I guess I was a little disrespectful with how confident

1232
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: I was, Like I definitely respect like the Nuggets a lot.

1233
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Like I just like, you know, the Murray loss is

1234
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: obviously that's like I would maybe have them as the

1235
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: favorites in the West, like with US if Murray didn't

1236
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: get hurt, but like when he got hurt, I just

1237
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of wrote them off. And like, I guess that's

1238
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: kind of maybe a bit of a mistake because Michael

1239
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Porter Jr. Is like ascended in that time. But UM,

1240
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: as long as I think we need to play the

1241
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Clippers in the UM Conference finals, which is why tomorrow

1242
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: will be an interesting interesting thing, like to see if

1243
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: UM they tank the thunder game. I guess it'll be

1244
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 1: pretty hard to do. But you know, they did loose

1245
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: to the Rockets, so maybe if they ended up in

1246
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: that fourth spot, which I think they will try to do,

1247
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: then we don't play them. If we get the seven

1248
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: UM until the conference finals. So you know, obviously tomorrow

1249
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: is a big up locations on that and that will

1250
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: be pretty interesting to see. But yeah, I guess they

1251
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't be so disrespectful. I think I think if we

1252
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: play the Clippers it will go like seven games. I

1253
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: just think, you know, I trust in Lebron Nadi to

1254
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: pull that out. Have you have good reason to that.

1255
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: He's exactly the last ten times. So it's not exactly

1256
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: it's exactly every every playoff he's been in, you know,

1257
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: less decade went to the finals. So an interesting wrinkle

1258
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: will be road games in Denver to start the postseason

1259
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: off of you know, right, Lebron not quite being in

1260
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: shape and Shrewder not quite being ape. Again. I like

1261
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: the matchups in that series, so I think the Lakers

1262
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: would do fine. But that's an interesting thing to keep

1263
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: an eye on. Is like falling into a hole against

1264
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: Denver because you're out of shape playing at elevation against

1265
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: a team that's in really good shape and in a

1266
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: really good rhythm. But I still like their chances. They're

1267
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: Another thing that's really nice about avoiding the play in

1268
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: is the playing tournament runs all week. It's Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

1269
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: which means that I'm assuming the first round isn't going

1270
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: to start until Saturday, possibly Sunday. Uh for the Lakers

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Speaker 1: with with what that means is that you know, by

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: by winning tomorrow, and if Denver manages to beat Portland's,

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: you buy lebron in another five days to rest that ankle,

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: and you buy Anthony Davis five days to rest that

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01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: growing and you buy Dennis Shrewder five days to get

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01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: his lungs back and work on his his uh, getting

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01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: his polish back, and and it just it just there's

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01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: a whole list of benefits that come from that. Not

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: to mention they would, I believe, in that timeline, face

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: the Clippers in the conference finals. Yep, and we can practice, right,

1281
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: they get some practices in exactly that one's practice this year.

1282
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: So get some practices in, get that week off, get

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: out of that play, and don't play the Clippers. I

1284
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: think that's a win. We would have took that, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, all all day long. Yeah, I think we're

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: all Nuggets fans tomorrow for sure. So hopefully Kid goes off.

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Speaker 1: We'll see though, Dad, same don't matter, That don't matter,

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, but I think there's something with

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Speaker 1: Jason saying about elevation, especially for Shrewder, like coming off

1290
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Speaker 1: COVID like you Obviously, I'm very confident Shuder. I'm very

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01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: hot on Shrewder. But he did look a little um,

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01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, out of shape today, so hopefully hopefully he

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: can get that week to rest. But I I do

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01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: agree with Tom. Also, they don't matter like see Sons

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01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: Lakers in five six maybe you know, so we'll see.

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: So Jovan reported the dentists after the game while y'all

1297
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: were on here said he did not have COVID, So okay,

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01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was he out fourteen days

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: then no idea crazy gez. So that would be interesting

1300
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: to see because I I do I do understand that

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01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: exposure changes your timeline based on the type of exposure.

1302
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: So it's possible that his health and Safety protocol timeline

1303
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: was extended because he had like a great deal of exposure.

1304
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: Scott it or something, yeah, something something along those lines.

1305
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows this stuff. They've all been

1306
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: so secretive about it the whole time, and Shrewder didn't

1307
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: do himself any favors with that. Germany interview No, he

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01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: did that. Oh, I missed the Germany interview. I saw him.

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01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: I saw him on Grant that thought a while we

1310
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: were playing the Clippers. So that was that was pretty funny. Yeah,

1311
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: then it helped be there. I guess it didn't. It

1312
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: definitely didn't. He definitely doesn't know like he definitely doesn't

1313
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: do the right thing always. But you know, I love

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: him as a player though, I really do. Why should

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you little? Appreciate you, guys. I love listening

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01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: to the space after the games. You guys, do you

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01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: guys have a great one? Thank you? All right, let's

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01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: see I think we have two more here, George. What's

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01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Can you guys hear me? What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Good to be back. I missed Tuesday, Spaces, but I

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: want to talk about a few things. I want to

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: get to the Clippers thing last, because I think they're

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01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: playing with fire with what they did. But with the

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01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: the offensive droughts. Do you think that's concerning because we've

1325
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: had it with Lebron and a d now obviously without them,

1326
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: but I felt like that was justified or is that

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01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: just the lack of spacing, which will probably figure itself

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01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: out come postseason. I literally just think it's the lack

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: of spacing. I think, and Roger and I talked about

1330
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Speaker 1: this extensively at the beginning of the podcast. You can

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: see the more detailed version of that when we released

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: the pod. But to make a long story shortly, you

1333
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: can get away with your a minute the five when

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01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: you're playing a Pacers defense that's missing some of their

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: guys that's not really engaged on that end. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, when they kind of started

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01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: paying attention to detail and taking away the easy stuff,

1338
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your primary decision maker, Lebron is

1339
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: settling for jumpers because there's just nothing there. And I

1340
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: think I think at the end of the day, the

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01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: Lakers will find when they get into the later rounds

1342
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: against the team like the Clippers or against the team

1343
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Speaker 1: you know, like Utah Phoenix, that they're going to actually

1344
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: really have to uh go away from Drummond at the

1345
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: five just for the sake of of stopping the stagnation

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01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: in their offense. Oh yeah, um, I agree with that.

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01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna I was gonna tweet out actually during

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: the game, like this is the first game with no

1349
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: scoring drought you know, spectrum and then like in the

1350
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: last three minutes they just decided not to score. They

1351
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: really bogged down. No ball movement, spacing was killed and

1352
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I'm not really worried about it again,

1353
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: Like I don't worry about the offense of a Lebron

1354
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: in a D S team in my opinion, it's just

1355
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 1: getting them, getting them going. Um. I think those droughts

1356
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: will get even less as we get Lebron healthier, Dennis

1357
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: Shrewder back in the lineup. Are just our offensive creators back, right,

1358
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a lot of those droughts were

1359
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: because we just had no shot creation on the floor.

1360
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: We just we haven't given the ball thd the whole time.

1361
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: Alex Caruso wearing those actions. That's where a lot of

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Speaker 1: the droughts we're kind of coming from. Um. I just

1363
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: feel like now with the with all our ball handlers

1364
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: kind of back all at once, which is funny all

1365
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: of them coming back at once, But with them back,

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the droughts will be will be a

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: little bit less as as we go on here that

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01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: they should get good looks. They have enough shooters to

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01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: make to make shots. We'll just we'll see if it

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Speaker 1: if it happens in the playoffs, but I just don't

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Speaker 1: think it will. And this tonight was a nice offensive

1372
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: game to see. I have all have the whole team

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01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: pretty much going and and yeah, like it sucks that

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01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: it happened at the most important time of the game. Uh,

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01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to just get like a

1376
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: little fifteen point win. But nothing, nothing comes easy here.

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01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: It's important to remember that the defense slipped in that

1378
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: moment as well. A lot of times over the last

1379
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: two years the Lakers have had games like that where

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: they stagnated at the end and in a most blew

1381
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: a lead, and a lot of the focuses on the offense.

1382
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, we as we've discussed with

1383
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: the spacing, that's part of it. But a lot of

1384
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: times those leads are shrinking in large part because the

1385
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: Lakers have completely mailed in the defensive end. And you

1386
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: can get away with a lot offensively, just as the Lakers,

1387
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: it's been their identity. You can get away with a

1388
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: lot offensively if you're doing your job on the other end,

1389
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: and and that's usually where it slips. So but it's

1390
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: almost uniquely against opponents they don't respect, which wildly enough

1391
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: has happened to the Lakers even in the postseason. Um,

1392
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, look at Game five of the NBA Finals,

1393
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 1: or you know the game three, like Game three against Denver,

1394
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: like this is all part of of their their identity.

1395
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: They you know, they kind of click flick that switch

1396
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: on and off. Um. But the good news is is

1397
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: they are number one in defense, so they tend to

1398
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: leave it on more than they leave it off. So

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01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: you could you could be worse. Yeah, I mean, I

1400
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: felt like the offense is really good through three quarters

1401
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Bromenade are trying to

1402
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: do pick and rolls. I called it euroball a little

1403
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: bit because every time they came down they did it

1404
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: and there was no movement, and Drummond was always in

1405
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: the dunker spot and it was just like the same thing,

1406
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: a turnover, a bad shot. But uh, I'm not as

1407
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: concerned there. It'll it'll solve solve itself out, like you said.

1408
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: But with the Clippers, now, I felt like, you know,

1409
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to speak as like a

1410
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Clipper fan, but I felt like if they thought their

1411
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: best chance to beat us was in the first round

1412
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: if we were compromised, and then after that, I feel

1413
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: like they could have made a deep run because I

1414
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: feel like their only threat is US, and then they

1415
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: tanked the game out and now they won't see US

1416
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: until second or conference final. So I felt it was weird.

1417
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: I thought their best chance to beat US was the

1418
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: first round. So I'm I'll take it. I'm not mad

1419
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 1: with it. I just felt it was weird. The tricky

1420
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: thing there's Kauai is a healthy So I used to

1421
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 1: think the same thing, Like if I was the Clippers,

1422
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the Lakers early. But they're

1423
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: dealing with their own issues of roster flux um, so

1424
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're worried about, right, And then

1425
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: that's a little point on that going to US going drought.

1426
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that. Also. I think they

1427
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: were trying to run the clock out, right, if I

1428
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I think they were just trying to run

1429
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: the clock out um with that lead, and that kind

1430
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: of led to those those bad shots. But but yeah,

1431
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: with the Clippers, there's a lot of pressure on them

1432
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: this season, right, Like they can't go out the first round,

1433
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: like they just they can't, like that's that's that's like

1434
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: an apocalyptic for them. So I think they would have

1435
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: to try to get as far as they can at

1436
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: least the Western Commence finals for them, So I kind

1437
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: of I guess I kind of understand it. I just

1438
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: don't like it in terms of, like, you know, respecting

1439
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: the basketball gods and all that stuff. But but yeah,

1440
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the good reason for them to

1441
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: kind of avoid us. They obviously feel I guess they

1442
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: would feel the same way where they're kind of big

1443
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: matchup and yeah they can't go out in the first

1444
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: round or something like that. That's just that can't happen

1445
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: for them. So I kind of I understand it from

1446
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 1: like a logical logical to you. I feel like the

1447
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: second least team they would want to see is Dallas Again.

1448
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: I know Luca was kind of punking him last year.

1449
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: I know it went six, but it it'd be interesting.

1450
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: Their best matchup is definitely Portland's. I feel like that

1451
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,919
Speaker 1: would be a quick series, but I found it interesting.

1452
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll have to see Yep, this is going

1453
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: to be the most intriguing playoff that will have in

1454
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, A lot of good teams, all right,

1455
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: Thank you guys once again. Thank yeah, no bad teams

1456
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: in the West. Let's see, I think we have one

1457
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: more left, all right, let's do it one more and

1458
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: what's fun on man? Hey, just one quick thing. I

1459
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: had a question about you guys talking about rotations earlier.

1460
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,440
Speaker 1: Do you guys not find it weird that Ben McLamore

1461
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: doesn't play like the majority of like of his minutes

1462
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: without like he plays them without Lebron. I found that

1463
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: very interesting with Bobil man, That's something I've been complaining

1464
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: about NonStop. It drives me nuts. Like it's like the

1465
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: dude has a super specific skill that has always melded

1466
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: really well with Lebron, and they just don't take advantage

1467
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: of it. Um. Instead, you're playing him in a situation

1468
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: where he's not getting the same high quality looks that

1469
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: he would get otherwise. And uh and and it helps

1470
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: because he's a little bit of a space case defensively,

1471
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: it helps to have like a really good communicating defender

1472
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: behind him to help him be in the right spots.

1473
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: And that's another part where you know having Lebron would help. Yeah,

1474
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Um. I feel like, again he's

1475
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: a specialist, like he's getting a lot of minutes right now. Still,

1476
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: I feel like he's game more than he'll get in

1477
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think more of that will go because

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Speaker 1: Vogel he's gonna go with defense, right I think he's

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: a defensive coach when when he's when he gets the

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: choice to big offense versus defense, and he'll pick defense

1481
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: pretty much every time. So I feel like in the playoffs,

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01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: Maltimore will be more uh specified, and I think he'll

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01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: get more minutes next to Lebron. He played a lot

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01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: with that, he's playing a lot with like th ht

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: and even shorter tonight. Um and and like you said, Jason,

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01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't as aggressive as usually is for some reason. Um.

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: But but we'll see hopefully he gets more next to

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01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: more minutes next to Lebron in the in the playoffs,

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: where will be more specialized role. In my opinion, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just frustrating, but I just wanted to ask about it,

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01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: see if you guys had any if you guys thought differently. Yeah,

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: when it gets to the chess match of a playoff series,

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01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: you are you know, the coaches are obsessing over film.

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: You know they've got you know, let's say they they're

1495
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, game three just happened, and they're you know,

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01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: you're down, you know, two games to one, or you're

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01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: up two games to one, but you just lost the game,

1498
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: and you're looking at what's going on, what's what's hurting you.

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: And when they start to see blatant signs of spacing

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01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: problems from a th HT or let's say Carusoe goes cold, like,

1501
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: that's when you're gonna see them try to shoehorn some

1502
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: mc lemore minutes in there. And then also just look

1503
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: at Lebron's minutes, man, Like I think he played low

1504
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: thirties today. Um let's see just real quick, but chances

1505
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 1: are he's gonna be up closer to forty in the playoffs.

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: Lebron played twenty eight minutes today. Like it's hard to

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01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: match up mcamore minutes with Lebron when he's playing half

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: the game. Um so I think I think in general,

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: in the postseason, when Lebron's playing forty minutes, I bet

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: you McLamore's minutes will almost almost exclusively mirror Lebron. YEP, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we hope, I hope appreciate it. Man. Thank you all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you all so much for hanging out with Roger

1513
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: and I. We should I'm planning on doing one tomorrow.

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure Roger's as well, so we will see with

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: a good of of whattation we're heading next week, whether

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Speaker 1: it's playing or prepping for a first round series. Tomorrow's

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01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: game is at six, so we'll be going live right around.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate all of you for jumping on. I'm

1519
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: going to take this screen and put it into a

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01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: podcast for those of you who missed the beginning. But

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: as usual, Rose and I sincerely appreciate you guys and

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: all your support, and we look forward to what should

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: be a really fun playoff run. Ye appreciate everyone, thanks

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Speaker 1: for hanging out. Enjoy