WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Call-In Intensive 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.440 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:13.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:17.639 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.919 official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:30.840 and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:36.120 of mix Shots on a Wednesday, on a bye week 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.280 here at the Beautiful Star in Fresco. And yes, we 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:46.360 are inside the SWBC podcast studio, the day after an 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.720 NFL trade deadline day that did not go as some 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.080 of us had wanted it to. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.280 and Jess Navarrez is here as well. And we're going 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:00.520 to open up the phone lines on the this edition 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.520 of mix Shots. And just you're excited about that, aren't you. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:07.080 I'm so excited. I haven't opened up the phone lines yet, 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.400 so this will be my very first time getting to 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.360 talk to everybody here. Very exciting stuff. Well, open them up, 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.679 all right, all right, start calling in line them up. Okay, 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.920 you gotta remember the phone number though, eight five five 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.200 to two nine seven. You go. All right, there you go, 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.679 Mom and dad, there's your cue to call. There it 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.880 is last truth says, I don't tear it from you. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.640 I don't think that number's changed in twenty years. I 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.560 still have a hard time. I still have to think 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.840 about it. Um and Mickey. You see what Mickey's wearing there. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.320 He's got his PGH Championship pull over or whatever that is. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.600 So you can tell it's bye week. He can't wait 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.920 to get out on the golf course. Bye week. Yeah right, right, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.360 I've already been out my one time a year. Oh really? Yeah? Yeah, 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.880 how the Cliff Harris Charity Okay, all right, I believe 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.000 that was May oh man. So that's not how you 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.360 spend your bye way. No, and you know you mentioned 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.560 the trade. It was not what we talked about, but 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:15.840 about what I expected that they did absolutely nothing, yep. 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:22.639 And we'll get into exactly why nothing happened. Yeah, over 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.960 the course of the next forty five minutes, and they 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.680 didn't listen to us to go find a cornerback for 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:34.919 depth purposes. Right, No, yeah, nothing happened. No, that's telling 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.799 me they didn't like. It didn't sound like and who 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:43.280 knows what's going on behind closed doors. You know, you 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:47.639 like to cover yourself in case of injuries, but the 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.600 difference as far as the receiver. And I'm back and 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.280 forth on it because I agreed with you yesterday. Yeah, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.320 if you suffer an injury now to one of your 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.800 top cornerbacks, then you're relying on somebody who really hadn't 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.679 relying on two people. Maybe if Duran Bland and either 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.800 Kelvin Joseph, you know, let's say Kelvin Joseph. You know, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.920 they've got very limited NFL experience her act planned defense. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.320 But I think the difference on offense is you're looking 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.240 you It sounds like they were trying to find someone 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:25.799 who can really give it some experienced juice and playmaking ability, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.320 and it just fell through. Well, and again it comes 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.480 down to what's the cost and what are people, you know, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.240 asking for, And it's not just the cost of what 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.280 you give up in the trade, it's how do you 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.560 fit that salary into your cap for this year and 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.000 next next year? Right, So that kind of brought up 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.440 the talk of and as was reported was Brandon Cooks 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:56.480 with Houston. Was reported that they might have been right 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.160 talking about him. But when I looked at Cooks, I 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.360 mean you look at his he was eighteen million dollars 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.080 base I mean for next year, next year, right, And 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:11.200 you have made the decision in the in March when 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.560 you signed Michael Gallup correct to a contract extension to 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.120 his money, when you decided to trade Amari Cooper, and 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:25.880 knowing that Cede Lamb is now eighteen months away from 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:30.720 a new big contract, right whatever exactly, and you know 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.080 you can't spend all your money on one position, right, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:40.360 And had you done that, which you mentioned so this year, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:47.160 Cooks would have been very inexpensive. But again next year, 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:52.960 you know, nineteen million dollars nearly you didn't want to 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.800 spend that on Amari Cooper, so you probably weren't going 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.640 to do it on this guy. And if you made 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.760 the decision that Cede Lamb's your number one receiver, then 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.120 it's hard to spend that much on number two or 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.520 number three when you were already resigned Michael Gallup, Right, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.400 So they were looking for something that wasn't going to 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.800 be as expensive. I bet they wanted a second round 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:19.120 pick for him, and then and then financially, you know, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.120 if you spend a second you're not renting him for 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:27.480 nine games, right, you want him next year two? So yeah, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.880 I think that went into that one, and then I 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.080 don't know that anybody else got you. I mean, if 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.840 you were going to get somebody had to be better 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:41.120 than Michael Gallup to me, and you can't. That guy 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:46.320 wasn't there. And I always wondered about that guy. Why 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:51.760 he's been on like four teams, like no one keeps him. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.760 If you if you look at his history, he's been 0:05:53.800 --> 0:06:02.200 with the Rams right now, the Texans, and there was 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:09.440 one more teen let's see, maybe the Raiders. Let's all right. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:14.159 He and I liked him coming out of college Oregon State. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:21.480 New Orleans was twenty fourteen is when he came into 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:29.360 the league. And he first round twentieth overall Saints twenty 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.080 fourteen through sixteen. Then he went to New England in 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:38.360 twenty seventeen, the Rams eighteen nineteen, in Houston twenty through 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:42.000 twenty two, right, and they signed him to a big contract, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:47.000 and part of that was, okay, he's with the Saints 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:52.159 for three years, then goes to New England, and I 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.960 mean he was racking up thousand yard receiving seasons four 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:03.040 straight years from twenty fifteen through twenty eighteen, and part 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.440 of it he is now once he gets into the third, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.760 fourth year. Now he is to that second contract level 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.840 in his career. So now teams are making the decision, Okay, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.640 do I want to pay him whatever the going rate 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.560 was in twenty seventeen eighteen, they're going right now for 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.920 that is twenty million dollars a year, well whatever it 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.240 was then, and they've decided that he wasn't the guy 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.280 they wanted to invest that money. So with this Saints, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.400 he didn't even finish his first he went three years 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:38.680 there contract right, it had been four years, okay, so 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.560 so they traded him with a year left. Singly enough too. 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.840 He was a special teams guy when he was with 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.120 the Saints, and then after that no more special teams. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.280 But you want to talk about having a little bit 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.840 of padding when it comes to injury. I know Kavanti 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.040 Turpin has had so much value in the special teams 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.880 in the you know, field position throughout the entirety of 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.360 this half of the season. So what worries me in 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.640 that regard to is how he could have brought value 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.320 was through special teams to have a little bit of 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.280 a backup. He wasn't going to play special teams um, 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.040 all right, So fourteen fifteen sixty Okay, So he played 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:20.000 with the Saints for three years. Now, he they then 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:24.440 had to make a decision on at draft time his 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.239 fourth year whether to pick up the fifth year option. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.760 They didn't even pickup. No, so he got trade. He 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.839 was he was a start free agency trade after three years, okay, 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.559 so they were about to have to make that decision, right, Okay, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:44.560 so they decided they traded him to the Saints with 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.640 a fourth round pick for a first round pick, which 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.520 they used on an offensive tackle. Okay, so they they 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.520 they made that decision. They weren't going to sign him 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.840 long term, right, a second contract and with a year 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:04.280 with actually two years of the ability to keep him, 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.000 they traded him to New England and got something for him. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.800 They made that decision, let's get the most that we 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.240 can get out of him, right here, yeah, okay. A 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.160 year later he was then, which was April of twenty eighteen, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.480 he was traded by the Patriots to the Rams. So 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.920 for another first round pick, his contract would have been 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.400 up right, right, And I'm not sure if the Patriots 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.840 had picked up his fifth year option or not, but anyway, regardless, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.560 a year later, he's traded for another first round. So 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.760 It's not like these teams are letting him go, right, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.600 they are getting first round picks in return for him, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.920 but they thought that first round pick was more valuable 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.200 than which in both cases they used those first round 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.040 picks on offensive tackles, by the way, which we have 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.199 determined that offensive tackles are more valuable if you can 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.040 find him in the first round. And then two years 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.439 later he was traded by the Rams to the Texans 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.880 for a second round pick, which the Rams used for 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.560 Van Jefferson. And I believe his name came up here 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:10.440 at that time also. And the other reason that the 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.400 speculation was about him here is because Robert Prince, the 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.520 Cowboys receiver's coach, was with the Texans last year, so 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:21.079 he knows what Brandon Cooks is all about. Anyway, but 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.680 we can we can talk about it after the fact 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:27.400 because it didn't happen, and so we're not infringing on 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:32.600 somebody else's player, right, So um, But anyway, and then 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.880 there was other guys that, I mean, people wanted a lot. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:41.320 What did they get for Judy Um when they ended 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.840 up trading him, And I think he got a pretty 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.920 high I mean, he was a former first round pick right, Yeah, sure, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:59.360 he was with them to Denver, right right, so, and 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.760 I would imagine that one would have been a little 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.120 bit expensive too, so so. And then the other thing 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.760 you have to factor in is the fact that you 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.600 know you spent that money on Michael Gallops. He's your 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:18.080 second guy, and a lot of times that third guy's 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.920 just got to be somebody to supplement the first two. 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:28.160 And you know James Washington will be back at some point, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.480 either for the Green Bay game or I would imagine 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.920 for Minnesota. So you made that decision in the offseason 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.040 that you know he would be your third guy, not 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.400 knowing he was going to get hurt. And then Noah 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.680 Brown steps up, and you know has been decent so far. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.880 He's got the second most catches on the team, twenty 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.640 five for three thirty nine in a touchdown. All right, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.920 back on Judy, Now, what did you say that? What 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.320 did they get for him when they traded? They didn't 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.360 trade him, Oh they did. The asking price was too high. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:03.559 That's why I was confusing. That's what happen. So I'm 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.880 saying Judy wasn't traded. So I'm sitting there searching, and 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.559 I got to confirm before no he was. That's what 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.360 Claypool got. Claypool got traded from the Steelers to the 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.440 Bears and there was a second round pick. They got 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.760 a second for that. Yeah, right, And he's not a 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:23.439 lead receiver that it depends, I mean, it depends maybe 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.920 for the Bears. Yeah, I mean, he definitely is for 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.199 the Bears because they didn't have much go in there anyway, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.560 you know, And we'll see how he develops in his career. 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.000 And he's a different type receiver than what Brandon Cooks is. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.679 So but anyway, so now here we are with the 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:45.760 Cowboys wide receiver situation, and we'll see when James Washington 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.400 comes back. But there there's a veteran guy that they 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:54.720 are counting on to get healthy and to maybe provide 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:59.360 some juice in this offense. And you know, I'm I'm 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.320 also cure used to see if Kavante Turpin gets worked 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.439 into the mix a little bit more. Yeah. And Robert Prince, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.920 so the Cowboys assistant coach is not coordinators. The other 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.079 assistance were available for interviews yesterday and Robert Prince addressed 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.479 both of those guys, and he was talking about how Washington, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.320 you know, gives him some deep speed. You know, he 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.560 can run the deep out, but he could also run 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.680 a deep post in man coverage. And his speed is 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.280 still his speed. It hasn't Wayne since his days at 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:40.160 Oklahoma when you know a state Oklahoma state. Sorry, he 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.200 was a second second ended up being a second round 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.559 pick for Pittsburgh if I remember correctly. Yes, so, um, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.040 you know, we'll see what that gives him. And then 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.640 you mentioned Turpin uh and and Prince said they've got 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.040 a package for him and it's just a matter of 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.720 calling the plays. But that let's let's expand that package. Yeah, 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.719 that's why I said, and lets and I agree with you. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.880 And if you notice, he did play more in the 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.080 slot this pass game as a receiver, not just a 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.400 guy that's going to run a smoke screen or a 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.760 or a jet sweep to the outside. So we'll be 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.400 interesting to see if they incorporate him. All right, let's 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.440 go to the phone line. All right, we got Scott 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.000 in New Jersey. Yeah, there you go, Hello Scott in 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.040 New Jersey. What a trick or treat this is? You 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.600 guys never take calls? You guys never take I guess 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.000 Mickey's just a little too cranky sometimes. So we gotta, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.480 we gotta what we say with Mickey, we have to 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.360 talking to him. Um, I know you guys um talking 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.560 about you know, receivers and trade. Trade line is over, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.000 you know what I'm I think the question is and 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.400 I hope we don't have to bring it up again. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.120 But I just want to make sure that you think 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.480 McCarthy's safe because of the way the team is playing. 0:14:54.560 --> 0:15:00.520 I mean, you know he's pulling the ball by fourteen 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.240 and then in the second quarter. Um, do you think 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:12.440 you fall? I think only because we're playing so fall folk. Well, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.240 Oklahoma and go Missouri. I can't believe that. Why I 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.320 actually watched them all Oklahoma's I've always watched. Now I 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.800 keep my eye in Missouri and um and grambling stain. Um. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.120 I don't know why, but I appreciate the ball only 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.000 because of you guys are fans. I appreciate the call 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.200 and UM keep taking calls. I listen to you guys 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.920 all the time. You were the breaker, the are the 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.840 stuff good show. Hey, don't forget about girls talk. Boys 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.800 talk either, sir. You know what the thing about boys 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.920 for us? And listen, I do Bill jump in because 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.160 Christie Scales keep the girl. We listen to. We listen 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.120 to UM the radio when we listen when we watch 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.880 the game. I know, Christie Scales, the four o'clock is 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.120 like when I'm making dinner, which I'm around. I'm bumping 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.840 around a lot of times. I catch you on the 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.560 reshow are you and the hanging with the boys? I 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.200 have to I have to listen to these guys live 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.080 because it's just a great show. Bill Jones, you were 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:05.280 just so funny. You're awesome. Wow, we've heard that funny. Okay, 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.120 that's pretty funny. That's enough for you from you after that. Wow, 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.760 Thanks Uncle Steve. I appreciate it, Uncle Steve. I forgot 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:18.160 it was a funny line. Hilarious. I forgot what the 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:23.440 question was. Something about McCarthy's job. Oh, that was one 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.560 of the reasons we don't take phone calls, just because 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.120 the call kind of went in and out. No, it 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.320 sounded like he was swimming a little bit, sounds like 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:35.080 he's eating. His phone got muffled at times, I think, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:41.040 saying something about because they're playing well why yeah, except 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.920 for the fact that they threw the ball at the 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.560 end of the half, that it got intercepted and cost 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.440 him a field goal. But yeah, there's no more hot seat. 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.320 You know, the hot seat got turned off all of 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.560 a sudden. Now they can get turned back up again. 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:59.600 But where the hot seat comes in is national reporters 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.440 that aren't here knowing what's really going on. So that 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.280 was the national reports here next week. Yes, first to 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.480 be fired was Mike McCarthy before the season ever started, right, Yeah, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.480 shame on him for losing that playoff game last year. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:20.080 Who's on the hot seat in Green Bay next week? Yeah, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.280 Well that's what Jerry said coming out of the gates 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.400 and training camp is let's clear this up. Mike McCarthy, 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.600 is the guys your head coach? I mean, there was 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:31.480 never a question anywhere, so I don't I don't think 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.440 there was ever a question to begin with. That means 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.359 there's not a question now. But like you said, it 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.000 could change, all right. Is there a hot seat in 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.320 Tampa Bay? Is there a hot seat in LA There's 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.840 a lot of teams that aren't newing what everybody expected 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.080 them to do. Right. The NFC is just it's a 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.560 very interesting, interesting scope of how things look right now. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.520 For then the AFC not much better. Yeah, I go 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:59.560 aside from Buffalo, Kansas City and Kansas City. Ye, all right, 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.480 when we come back here on mix shots, let's take 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:09.040 a trip to Las Cruses, New Mexico. Dr Yeah, we'll 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.159 continue taking phone calls. Oh, there you go, mix shots 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.280 in just a moment. I'm funny. The Medal of Honor 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.560 is our country's highest military award for valor in combat. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.880 More than forty million individuals have served in the armed 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.199 forces since the Civil War. 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He had priority in the 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:22.440 lineup right. He was very eady. Yeah. Yeah. I've tried 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.280 to call several times about tell you over the last 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.240 few years. This is the first year that I haven't 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.159 devotely spent my Monday through Friday listening to all the podcasts. 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:34.760 I've been so overwhelmed with work. But usually my routine 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.640 is don't don't bother me from eight in the morning 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.399 till twelve in the afternoons, you know, Monday through Friday, 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.640 and certainly don't bother me on Sundays. This is true. 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.280 See where I get, Dad, What do you do for living? 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:49.399 I'm an insurance agent. I also sell fireworks. We have 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:56.280 a large Okay, all right, Bill needs one of those two. Yeah. No, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:01.000 Dad's where I got the love of vaultings cowboys And yeah, so, Jess, 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.720 did you play sports growing up? I wasn't cheering dance, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.200 but yeah it was that can be in pretty intentional. 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.600 It's very competitive and yeah, I've got my competitive nature 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.080 from that and from my dad. I mean, I think 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.320 my dad and I have the same work ethic as 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.480 far as we don't stop, we don't give up. And yeah, 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.520 without without him, I never would have made it here. 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.960 So thanks Dad and mom. Mom's listening to well well. 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:28.000 And I also coached for for about thirty years wrestling, 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.159 which football, but yeah, but very very involved in sports. No, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.200 but he's also the reason that I know all these names, 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.520 and and uh I was Dad. I was telling Mickey 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.960 the other day about when when to training camp and 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.320 bumped into him and sent you the picture and was 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:48.320 freaking out. Yeah, I've got to see their bill. I've 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.400 got I've got a picture with Mick here and I'll 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:54.199 passo when he came down right, Absolutely, I stood in 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:57.240 line to meet Mick. There you go. We're devoted enough 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.679 that we would drive to every home game or lie 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.280 from here because we were season ticket holders as well, 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.480 but COVID kind of slowed that down a bit. But 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.120 we we for the you know, for the most part, 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.520 go to almost every home game. So it's a long, 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.040 long trek for us. How far? And he should be 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:19.320 commended because that line and now, Passo was long. I 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.640 think they gave you a shirt too. I'm pretty sure 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:23.439 they gave you a shirt that day. My brother and 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.800 I think we did. Yeah, we did. How far? How about? Yeah? 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.119 How far is La Scruss from from about Well, if 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.240 you're driving, normally it's about a nine hour drive. But 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.320 when yes, Dad, you're driving, you're not stating you're with me. 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:39.000 We could get there at about six and a half 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:44.720 hours each. Dad don't admit that now. And the thing 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.960 he would do is we would leave the day of 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.280 the game, get to the game, go to the game, 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.160 turn around and then drive back home. I mean sometimes 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.320 we would stop, but yeah, definitely devoted there. But Dad, 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.359 what is your question? I'm making you ask a question 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.120 on you? Well, my question is how do we keep 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.320 getting I'm not going to call a player out because 0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.000 that's not nice, but one of our linebackers from getting 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:12.640 washed out on all the damn run plays and being 0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.720 blocked out of it. It's driving me mad. All right, 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:21.920 would you like to answer the question? I think I 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.720 need a name with that linebacker. I don't I can't 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:35.720 believe you're talking about Michael Parsons. Like, no, I think 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.399 he should drop back a little more, but absolutely no. 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.920 It's unfortunately I like I like the wolf call, you know, 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.040 mister Vanderish, but he you know, that's where I see 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.160 a lot of the problems is he's just washed out 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.120