Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots on a Wednesday, on a bye week
Speaker 1: here at the Beautiful Star in Fresco. And yes, we
Speaker 1: are inside the SWBC podcast studio, the day after an
Speaker 1: NFL trade deadline day that did not go as some
Speaker 1: of us had wanted it to. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: and Jess Navarrez is here as well. And we're going
Speaker 1: to open up the phone lines on the this edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots. And just you're excited about that, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I haven't opened up the phone lines yet,
Speaker 1: so this will be my very first time getting to
Speaker 1: talk to everybody here. Very exciting stuff. Well, open them up,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, start calling in line them up. Okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta remember the phone number though, eight five five
Speaker 1: to two nine seven. You go. All right, there you go,
Speaker 1: Mom and dad, there's your cue to call. There it
Speaker 1: is last truth says, I don't tear it from you.
Speaker 1: I don't think that number's changed in twenty years. I
Speaker 1: still have a hard time. I still have to think
Speaker 1: about it. Um and Mickey. You see what Mickey's wearing there.
Speaker 1: He's got his PGH Championship pull over or whatever that is.
Speaker 1: So you can tell it's bye week. He can't wait
Speaker 1: to get out on the golf course. Bye week. Yeah right, right,
Speaker 1: I've already been out my one time a year. Oh really? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how the Cliff Harris Charity Okay, all right, I believe
Speaker 1: that was May oh man. So that's not how you
Speaker 1: spend your bye way. No, and you know you mentioned
Speaker 1: the trade. It was not what we talked about, but
Speaker 1: about what I expected that they did absolutely nothing, yep.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into exactly why nothing happened. Yeah, over
Speaker 1: the course of the next forty five minutes, and they
Speaker 1: didn't listen to us to go find a cornerback for
Speaker 1: depth purposes. Right, No, yeah, nothing happened. No, that's telling
Speaker 1: me they didn't like. It didn't sound like and who
Speaker 1: knows what's going on behind closed doors. You know, you
Speaker 1: like to cover yourself in case of injuries, but the
Speaker 1: difference as far as the receiver. And I'm back and
Speaker 1: forth on it because I agreed with you yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you suffer an injury now to one of your
Speaker 1: top cornerbacks, then you're relying on somebody who really hadn't
Speaker 1: relying on two people. Maybe if Duran Bland and either
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph, you know, let's say Kelvin Joseph. You know,
Speaker 1: they've got very limited NFL experience her act planned defense.
Speaker 1: But I think the difference on offense is you're looking
Speaker 1: you It sounds like they were trying to find someone
Speaker 1: who can really give it some experienced juice and playmaking ability,
Speaker 1: and it just fell through. Well, and again it comes
Speaker 1: down to what's the cost and what are people, you know,
Speaker 1: asking for, And it's not just the cost of what
Speaker 1: you give up in the trade, it's how do you
Speaker 1: fit that salary into your cap for this year and
Speaker 1: next next year? Right, So that kind of brought up
Speaker 1: the talk of and as was reported was Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: with Houston. Was reported that they might have been right
Speaker 1: talking about him. But when I looked at Cooks, I
Speaker 1: mean you look at his he was eighteen million dollars
Speaker 1: base I mean for next year, next year, right, And
Speaker 1: you have made the decision in the in March when
Speaker 1: you signed Michael Gallup correct to a contract extension to
Speaker 1: his money, when you decided to trade Amari Cooper, and
Speaker 1: knowing that Cede Lamb is now eighteen months away from
Speaker 1: a new big contract, right whatever exactly, and you know
Speaker 1: you can't spend all your money on one position, right,
Speaker 1: And had you done that, which you mentioned so this year,
Speaker 1: Cooks would have been very inexpensive. But again next year,
Speaker 1: you know, nineteen million dollars nearly you didn't want to
Speaker 1: spend that on Amari Cooper, so you probably weren't going
Speaker 1: to do it on this guy. And if you made
Speaker 1: the decision that Cede Lamb's your number one receiver, then
Speaker 1: it's hard to spend that much on number two or
Speaker 1: number three when you were already resigned Michael Gallup, Right,
Speaker 1: So they were looking for something that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be as expensive. I bet they wanted a second round
Speaker 1: pick for him, and then and then financially, you know,
Speaker 1: if you spend a second you're not renting him for
Speaker 1: nine games, right, you want him next year two? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that went into that one, and then I
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody else got you. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you were going to get somebody had to be better
Speaker 1: than Michael Gallup to me, and you can't. That guy
Speaker 1: wasn't there. And I always wondered about that guy. Why
Speaker 1: he's been on like four teams, like no one keeps him.
Speaker 1: If you if you look at his history, he's been
Speaker 1: with the Rams right now, the Texans, and there was
Speaker 1: one more teen let's see, maybe the Raiders. Let's all right.
Speaker 1: He and I liked him coming out of college Oregon State.
Speaker 1: New Orleans was twenty fourteen is when he came into
Speaker 1: the league. And he first round twentieth overall Saints twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen through sixteen. Then he went to New England in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, the Rams eighteen nineteen, in Houston twenty through
Speaker 1: twenty two, right, and they signed him to a big contract,
Speaker 1: and part of that was, okay, he's with the Saints
Speaker 1: for three years, then goes to New England, and I
Speaker 1: mean he was racking up thousand yard receiving seasons four
Speaker 1: straight years from twenty fifteen through twenty eighteen, and part
Speaker 1: of it he is now once he gets into the third,
Speaker 1: fourth year. Now he is to that second contract level
Speaker 1: in his career. So now teams are making the decision, Okay,
Speaker 1: do I want to pay him whatever the going rate
Speaker 1: was in twenty seventeen eighteen, they're going right now for
Speaker 1: that is twenty million dollars a year, well whatever it
Speaker 1: was then, and they've decided that he wasn't the guy
Speaker 1: they wanted to invest that money. So with this Saints,
Speaker 1: he didn't even finish his first he went three years
Speaker 1: there contract right, it had been four years, okay, so
Speaker 1: so they traded him with a year left. Singly enough too.
Speaker 1: He was a special teams guy when he was with
Speaker 1: the Saints, and then after that no more special teams.
Speaker 1: But you want to talk about having a little bit
Speaker 1: of padding when it comes to injury. I know Kavanti
Speaker 1: Turpin has had so much value in the special teams
Speaker 1: in the you know, field position throughout the entirety of
Speaker 1: this half of the season. So what worries me in
Speaker 1: that regard to is how he could have brought value
Speaker 1: was through special teams to have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a backup. He wasn't going to play special teams um,
Speaker 1: all right, So fourteen fifteen sixty Okay, So he played
Speaker 1: with the Saints for three years. Now, he they then
Speaker 1: had to make a decision on at draft time his
Speaker 1: fourth year whether to pick up the fifth year option.
Speaker 1: They didn't even pickup. No, so he got trade. He
Speaker 1: was he was a start free agency trade after three years, okay,
Speaker 1: so they were about to have to make that decision, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so they decided they traded him to the Saints with
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for a first round pick, which
Speaker 1: they used on an offensive tackle. Okay, so they they
Speaker 1: they made that decision. They weren't going to sign him
Speaker 1: long term, right, a second contract and with a year
Speaker 1: with actually two years of the ability to keep him,
Speaker 1: they traded him to New England and got something for him.
Speaker 1: They made that decision, let's get the most that we
Speaker 1: can get out of him, right here, yeah, okay. A
Speaker 1: year later he was then, which was April of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: he was traded by the Patriots to the Rams. So
Speaker 1: for another first round pick, his contract would have been
Speaker 1: up right, right, And I'm not sure if the Patriots
Speaker 1: had picked up his fifth year option or not, but anyway, regardless,
Speaker 1: a year later, he's traded for another first round. So
Speaker 1: It's not like these teams are letting him go, right,
Speaker 1: they are getting first round picks in return for him,
Speaker 1: but they thought that first round pick was more valuable
Speaker 1: than which in both cases they used those first round
Speaker 1: picks on offensive tackles, by the way, which we have
Speaker 1: determined that offensive tackles are more valuable if you can
Speaker 1: find him in the first round. And then two years
Speaker 1: later he was traded by the Rams to the Texans
Speaker 1: for a second round pick, which the Rams used for
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson. And I believe his name came up here
Speaker 1: at that time also. And the other reason that the
Speaker 1: speculation was about him here is because Robert Prince, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys receiver's coach, was with the Texans last year, so
Speaker 1: he knows what Brandon Cooks is all about. Anyway, but
Speaker 1: we can we can talk about it after the fact
Speaker 1: because it didn't happen, and so we're not infringing on
Speaker 1: somebody else's player, right, So um, But anyway, and then
Speaker 1: there was other guys that, I mean, people wanted a lot.
Speaker 1: What did they get for Judy Um when they ended
Speaker 1: up trading him, And I think he got a pretty
Speaker 1: high I mean, he was a former first round pick right, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: he was with them to Denver, right right, so, and
Speaker 1: I would imagine that one would have been a little
Speaker 1: bit expensive too, so so. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: you have to factor in is the fact that you
Speaker 1: know you spent that money on Michael Gallops. He's your
Speaker 1: second guy, and a lot of times that third guy's
Speaker 1: just got to be somebody to supplement the first two.
Speaker 1: And you know James Washington will be back at some point,
Speaker 1: either for the Green Bay game or I would imagine
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. So you made that decision in the offseason
Speaker 1: that you know he would be your third guy, not
Speaker 1: knowing he was going to get hurt. And then Noah
Speaker 1: Brown steps up, and you know has been decent so far.
Speaker 1: He's got the second most catches on the team, twenty
Speaker 1: five for three thirty nine in a touchdown. All right,
Speaker 1: back on Judy, Now, what did you say that? What
Speaker 1: did they get for him when they traded? They didn't
Speaker 1: trade him, Oh they did. The asking price was too high.
Speaker 1: That's why I was confusing. That's what happen. So I'm
Speaker 1: saying Judy wasn't traded. So I'm sitting there searching, and
Speaker 1: I got to confirm before no he was. That's what
Speaker 1: Claypool got. Claypool got traded from the Steelers to the
Speaker 1: Bears and there was a second round pick. They got
Speaker 1: a second for that. Yeah, right, And he's not a
Speaker 1: lead receiver that it depends, I mean, it depends maybe
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Yeah, I mean, he definitely is for
Speaker 1: the Bears because they didn't have much go in there anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, And we'll see how he develops in his career.
Speaker 1: And he's a different type receiver than what Brandon Cooks is.
Speaker 1: So but anyway, so now here we are with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys wide receiver situation, and we'll see when James Washington
Speaker 1: comes back. But there there's a veteran guy that they
Speaker 1: are counting on to get healthy and to maybe provide
Speaker 1: some juice in this offense. And you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: also cure used to see if Kavante Turpin gets worked
Speaker 1: into the mix a little bit more. Yeah. And Robert Prince,
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys assistant coach is not coordinators. The other
Speaker 1: assistance were available for interviews yesterday and Robert Prince addressed
Speaker 1: both of those guys, and he was talking about how Washington,
Speaker 1: you know, gives him some deep speed. You know, he
Speaker 1: can run the deep out, but he could also run
Speaker 1: a deep post in man coverage. And his speed is
Speaker 1: still his speed. It hasn't Wayne since his days at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma when you know a state Oklahoma state. Sorry, he
Speaker 1: was a second second ended up being a second round
Speaker 1: pick for Pittsburgh if I remember correctly. Yes, so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what that gives him. And then
Speaker 1: you mentioned Turpin uh and and Prince said they've got
Speaker 1: a package for him and it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: calling the plays. But that let's let's expand that package. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I said, and lets and I agree with you.
Speaker 1: And if you notice, he did play more in the
Speaker 1: slot this pass game as a receiver, not just a
Speaker 1: guy that's going to run a smoke screen or a
Speaker 1: or a jet sweep to the outside. So we'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see if they incorporate him. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to the phone line. All right, we got Scott
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Yeah, there you go, Hello Scott in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. What a trick or treat this is? You
Speaker 1: guys never take calls? You guys never take I guess
Speaker 1: Mickey's just a little too cranky sometimes. So we gotta,
Speaker 1: we gotta what we say with Mickey, we have to
Speaker 1: talking to him. Um, I know you guys um talking
Speaker 1: about you know, receivers and trade. Trade line is over,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm I think the question is and
Speaker 1: I hope we don't have to bring it up again.
Speaker 1: But I just want to make sure that you think
Speaker 1: McCarthy's safe because of the way the team is playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know he's pulling the ball by fourteen
Speaker 1: and then in the second quarter. Um, do you think
Speaker 1: you fall? I think only because we're playing so fall folk. Well,
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and go Missouri. I can't believe that. Why I
Speaker 1: actually watched them all Oklahoma's I've always watched. Now I
Speaker 1: keep my eye in Missouri and um and grambling stain. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I appreciate the ball only
Speaker 1: because of you guys are fans. I appreciate the call
Speaker 1: and UM keep taking calls. I listen to you guys
Speaker 1: all the time. You were the breaker, the are the
Speaker 1: stuff good show. Hey, don't forget about girls talk. Boys
Speaker 1: talk either, sir. You know what the thing about boys
Speaker 1: for us? And listen, I do Bill jump in because
Speaker 1: Christie Scales keep the girl. We listen to. We listen
Speaker 1: to UM the radio when we listen when we watch
Speaker 1: the game. I know, Christie Scales, the four o'clock is
Speaker 1: like when I'm making dinner, which I'm around. I'm bumping
Speaker 1: around a lot of times. I catch you on the
Speaker 1: reshow are you and the hanging with the boys? I
Speaker 1: have to I have to listen to these guys live
Speaker 1: because it's just a great show. Bill Jones, you were
Speaker 1: just so funny. You're awesome. Wow, we've heard that funny. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty funny. That's enough for you from you after that. Wow,
Speaker 1: Thanks Uncle Steve. I appreciate it, Uncle Steve. I forgot
Speaker 1: it was a funny line. Hilarious. I forgot what the
Speaker 1: question was. Something about McCarthy's job. Oh, that was one
Speaker 1: of the reasons we don't take phone calls, just because
Speaker 1: the call kind of went in and out. No, it
Speaker 1: sounded like he was swimming a little bit, sounds like
Speaker 1: he's eating. His phone got muffled at times, I think,
Speaker 1: saying something about because they're playing well why yeah, except
Speaker 1: for the fact that they threw the ball at the
Speaker 1: end of the half, that it got intercepted and cost
Speaker 1: him a field goal. But yeah, there's no more hot seat.
Speaker 1: You know, the hot seat got turned off all of
Speaker 1: a sudden. Now they can get turned back up again.
Speaker 1: But where the hot seat comes in is national reporters
Speaker 1: that aren't here knowing what's really going on. So that
Speaker 1: was the national reports here next week. Yes, first to
Speaker 1: be fired was Mike McCarthy before the season ever started, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: shame on him for losing that playoff game last year.
Speaker 1: Who's on the hot seat in Green Bay next week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well that's what Jerry said coming out of the gates
Speaker 1: and training camp is let's clear this up. Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: is the guys your head coach? I mean, there was
Speaker 1: never a question anywhere, so I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: there was ever a question to begin with. That means
Speaker 1: there's not a question now. But like you said, it
Speaker 1: could change, all right. Is there a hot seat in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay? Is there a hot seat in LA There's
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that aren't newing what everybody expected
Speaker 1: them to do. Right. The NFC is just it's a
Speaker 1: very interesting, interesting scope of how things look right now.
Speaker 1: For then the AFC not much better. Yeah, I go
Speaker 1: aside from Buffalo, Kansas City and Kansas City. Ye, all right,
Speaker 1: when we come back here on mix shots, let's take
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Speaker 1: All right. Mix Shots continues inside the SWBC Podcasts studio.
Speaker 1: We had so much success with that last call. There's
Speaker 1: my favorite listener, Scott in New Jersey. You can call
Speaker 1: anytime here. And you're only saying that because he said
Speaker 1: you were fine. That's the only reason you're saying that.
Speaker 1: All right, So Jess, how about you set up the
Speaker 1: next caller we have? All right, next caller is calling
Speaker 1: in from last this New Mexico. His name's Jimmy, but
Speaker 1: to me, his name's Dad. Hi Dad, Hey Dad, what's up?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called in, Hey Dad? How you doing good? Nick?
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? He had priority in the
Speaker 1: lineup right. He was very eady. Yeah. Yeah. I've tried
Speaker 1: to call several times about tell you over the last
Speaker 1: few years. This is the first year that I haven't
Speaker 1: devotely spent my Monday through Friday listening to all the podcasts.
Speaker 1: I've been so overwhelmed with work. But usually my routine
Speaker 1: is don't don't bother me from eight in the morning
Speaker 1: till twelve in the afternoons, you know, Monday through Friday,
Speaker 1: and certainly don't bother me on Sundays. This is true.
Speaker 1: See where I get, Dad, What do you do for living?
Speaker 1: I'm an insurance agent. I also sell fireworks. We have
Speaker 1: a large Okay, all right, Bill needs one of those two. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: Dad's where I got the love of vaultings cowboys And yeah, so, Jess,
Speaker 1: did you play sports growing up? I wasn't cheering dance,
Speaker 1: but yeah it was that can be in pretty intentional.
Speaker 1: It's very competitive and yeah, I've got my competitive nature
Speaker 1: from that and from my dad. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: my dad and I have the same work ethic as
Speaker 1: far as we don't stop, we don't give up. And yeah,
Speaker 1: without without him, I never would have made it here.
Speaker 1: So thanks Dad and mom. Mom's listening to well well.
Speaker 1: And I also coached for for about thirty years wrestling,
Speaker 1: which football, but yeah, but very very involved in sports. No,
Speaker 1: but he's also the reason that I know all these names,
Speaker 1: and and uh I was Dad. I was telling Mickey
Speaker 1: the other day about when when to training camp and
Speaker 1: bumped into him and sent you the picture and was
Speaker 1: freaking out. Yeah, I've got to see their bill. I've
Speaker 1: got I've got a picture with Mick here and I'll
Speaker 1: passo when he came down right, Absolutely, I stood in
Speaker 1: line to meet Mick. There you go. We're devoted enough
Speaker 1: that we would drive to every home game or lie
Speaker 1: from here because we were season ticket holders as well,
Speaker 1: but COVID kind of slowed that down a bit. But
Speaker 1: we we for the you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: go to almost every home game. So it's a long,
Speaker 1: long trek for us. How far? And he should be
Speaker 1: commended because that line and now, Passo was long. I
Speaker 1: think they gave you a shirt too. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: they gave you a shirt that day. My brother and
Speaker 1: I think we did. Yeah, we did. How far? How about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How far is La Scruss from from about Well, if
Speaker 1: you're driving, normally it's about a nine hour drive. But
Speaker 1: when yes, Dad, you're driving, you're not stating you're with me.
Speaker 1: We could get there at about six and a half
Speaker 1: hours each. Dad don't admit that now. And the thing
Speaker 1: he would do is we would leave the day of
Speaker 1: the game, get to the game, go to the game,
Speaker 1: turn around and then drive back home. I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: we would stop, but yeah, definitely devoted there. But Dad,
Speaker 1: what is your question? I'm making you ask a question
Speaker 1: on you? Well, my question is how do we keep
Speaker 1: getting I'm not going to call a player out because
Speaker 1: that's not nice, but one of our linebackers from getting
Speaker 1: washed out on all the damn run plays and being
Speaker 1: blocked out of it. It's driving me mad. All right,
Speaker 1: would you like to answer the question? I think I
Speaker 1: need a name with that linebacker. I don't I can't
Speaker 1: believe you're talking about Michael Parsons. Like, no, I think
Speaker 1: he should drop back a little more, but absolutely no.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately I like I like the wolf call, you know,
Speaker 1: mister Vanderish, but he you know, that's where I see
Speaker 1: a lot of the problems is he's just washed out
Speaker 1: and he's very easy to block and doesn't shed those
Speaker 1: blocks very well. I think they're hoping to take care
Speaker 1: of some issues by the trade they made last week,
Speaker 1: which so he's been and I hate to do this
Speaker 1: to you, but he's been washed out so much that
Speaker 1: he leads the team with sixty three tackles. No, he's
Speaker 1: much better this year. I will I will say that,
Speaker 1: but you know on the big runs, it's always always
Speaker 1: kind of at him. Well, what do you think, how
Speaker 1: do you think that happens because the linebacker, the deep
Speaker 1: offensive lineman don't get job And it's a twofold question.
Speaker 1: You're right, right, I have a question. Three hundred pounds
Speaker 1: three twenty against two fifties probably not a good matchup. Well,
Speaker 1: and how is he doing compared to this time last season,
Speaker 1: because I think this season he's really done a better
Speaker 1: job and bought into the dan Quinn scheme and coaching
Speaker 1: and all of that. He spoke very highly of dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: I think compared to last year, that'd be I think
Speaker 1: he's he's improved over the last couple of years because
Speaker 1: he's got the playing time, he's healthy, he's healthy. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And as he said when he was asked a similar
Speaker 1: question back at the home run derby, so that would
Speaker 1: have been made. You know, somebody said, it looked like
Speaker 1: you picked your game up at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: You were making more tackles, you were more involved, and
Speaker 1: his answer was that's when what you get when I'm
Speaker 1: on the field more, meaning they were not playing him
Speaker 1: early and wasted snaps on Jalen Smith instead of having
Speaker 1: Layton Vanderish out on the field. All right, Dad, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you calling and listening. Thank you, guys, appreciate you
Speaker 1: taking my call and look forward to hearing anymore. All right,
Speaker 1: thanks a lot. All right, Producer Supreme, you told me
Speaker 1: there's another caller on the line to go, and I
Speaker 1: did not hear who that caller was. It's Gary in
Speaker 1: New Mexico, Mexico. All of my New Mexico, Mexico people
Speaker 1: are what you got? Gary? Hi? Gary? Hi? How y'all
Speaker 1: doing just I'm from Cloud Crofts? Well just a little
Speaker 1: bit loss, crucis Yes, all right. I want to defend
Speaker 1: the Cowboys front office. I'm glad they didn't make a trade.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody said when Tyrn Smith got hurt, we
Speaker 1: need to go trade for a tackle. They just stuck
Speaker 1: to the plan. How's that worked out? When Dak went down,
Speaker 1: you had people saying, we need to go find a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They just stuck to the plan. How's that worked out.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is a good coach and he knows what
Speaker 1: he is doing, and he has done an outstanding job
Speaker 1: of building this team, of drafting and developing players. The
Speaker 1: personnel department is excellent at drafting and developing players. Let's
Speaker 1: just let this playout. This is a good, solid football
Speaker 1: team and we just need to relax and trust that
Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. There. You go, all right, Gary, Hey,
Speaker 1: when you go six and two, I really I can
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I think I think that's perfectly said. And
Speaker 1: if it's worked, er, what is it. If it's not broke,
Speaker 1: don't fix it. I think it's working. And I really
Speaker 1: think it wasn't until this week when you had Dac
Speaker 1: back you could really see what you were working with.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't know what you have if you
Speaker 1: have your backup quarterback. And that's that's just what it is. Right.
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush did his job. He won games. All the
Speaker 1: flowers to Cooper Rush for keeping this team afloat, but
Speaker 1: I think, really, now you see what the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: going to be capable of a DAC back. So so
Speaker 1: really the only move they made was releasing Tristan Hill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about that yet. So Triston Hill let
Speaker 1: go yesterday and there was a log jam there and
Speaker 1: I think they looked at it and said, number one,
Speaker 1: he's only played twenty five percent of the snaps so far,
Speaker 1: he's got six tackles. Number two, he's in the last
Speaker 1: year of his contract, and no matter that he's a
Speaker 1: second round pick. I think sometimes you have to take
Speaker 1: out your racer and say, Okay, who's expended Bowl and
Speaker 1: who might be coming back, and who are we developing.
Speaker 1: And I know he lost the year to the ACL tear,
Speaker 1: and when you come back the next year, it's pretty tough.
Speaker 1: I thought he was having a really good training camp
Speaker 1: and then he just kind of disappeared and they had
Speaker 1: him in the rotation. The other thing is, I just
Speaker 1: don't know how he fit into the culture of this team.
Speaker 1: It just I don't know. There was something about him
Speaker 1: that didn't really pan out. So I think when they
Speaker 1: were looking and saying, well, at some point you're gonna
Speaker 1: get Terrell bash him back, you did get Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 1: And that's the move the Cowboys made. Just because you
Speaker 1: don't make a trade at the deadline doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. They picked up a guy and with
Speaker 1: what two three practices, he ended up with four tackles
Speaker 1: in the game, And you basically have traded Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: for Jonathan Hankins, right, and Hill find out at three
Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon, Triston Hill may still be available and
Speaker 1: they could sign them back to the practice squad if
Speaker 1: they indeed want to. Otherwise, maybe they just washed their
Speaker 1: hands of them and said, okay, enough's enough. But Hankins, so,
Speaker 1: like I said, he ends up with four four tackles
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, and Triston Hill has six in
Speaker 1: eight games, well seven because he didn't play this last one.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, that was the trade off. And I
Speaker 1: think you kind of like to have a big body
Speaker 1: in there to keep people off of Layton Vanderish by
Speaker 1: the way, Oh, Mickey makes sense, all right, Uh, let's
Speaker 1: take a phone call. Yeah, we'll take another on this segment,
Speaker 1: Jim and McCall and you're next up on mix shots. Jim,
Speaker 1: he's John. I'm sorry. I can't read my own right,
Speaker 1: It's my fault. It's fine. And Bill makes fun of
Speaker 1: my handwriting. Well, I thought it was funny when when
Speaker 1: the last time he took phone calls, somebody called Bill Steve.
Speaker 1: You know, I took that as a compliment. Stephen Jones, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to call since since the uh Uh,
Speaker 1: I guess it was three weeks ago, a victory Monday,
Speaker 1: when Emerson was supposed to have just the name for
Speaker 1: for the no for the for the defense, the nickname
Speaker 1: for the defense. Yes, yeah, and so h at the
Speaker 1: end of at the end of the broadcast, you know,
Speaker 1: they y'all played the song again, the Dallas Stampede song,
Speaker 1: and and so it kind of hit me. Then you know, uh,
Speaker 1: they say stand up, and then they have the charge stampede,
Speaker 1: and so I thought it Doomsday Stampede would be uh good,
Speaker 1: some question. So all right, that's what if we just
Speaker 1: call him the stam Peters, it'd be kind of an
Speaker 1: inside jokes. It's we're the only ones playing. It's not
Speaker 1: even an inside here. It is here. It is Hey, John,
Speaker 1: would you like to sing it? Here? John? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't call the down got we got stampede playing
Speaker 1: right now. You can sing it for us. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I can't understand what they're saying. I'm part of the song.
Speaker 1: So I thought, oh, they're asking me to see, by
Speaker 1: the way, neither can we. All right, well, we appreciate
Speaker 1: the call. Thanks, all right, stam Peters. We can make
Speaker 1: that a noun, right, you just did Stam Peters. You
Speaker 1: can do anything because they rushed the quarterback. So well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet they're still leading the league in sacks are yes,
Speaker 1: thirty three yep. So there you go. They're stampede. You know,
Speaker 1: you think about it. We talked about it. How many
Speaker 1: times did David Carr get sacked his rookie season. It
Speaker 1: was like sixty or seventy times. Yeah, so the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are on a pay Okay, if it was a sixteen
Speaker 1: game regular season, they're on a pace for sixty six
Speaker 1: sacks with an extra game seventy probably post to seventy,
Speaker 1: which would be a club record because the club record
Speaker 1: is sixty two since sacks were counted in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 1: So before that, we've counted the sacks since then, haven't we. Well,
Speaker 1: we got through that the other but I don't think
Speaker 1: they counted them for the whole team. They just counted
Speaker 1: them for All you gotta do is add up the
Speaker 1: individuals and you got the whole team. Yeah, the individuals
Speaker 1: of the recount. Yeah. Yeah, so we're gonna say it's
Speaker 1: all time, Okay, in the sixty year history of the franchise,
Speaker 1: Stamp Peter, what's the record again, sixty two sixty two season?
Speaker 1: What it was eighty five? I want to say, okay,
Speaker 1: because it was the also the year they had a
Speaker 1: bunch jo interceptions. Okay, and Emerson played a big role.
Speaker 1: That's fine. She just couldn't let it go. We continue
Speaker 1: with more phone calls on a special edition of mix
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Speaker 1: how much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally.
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Speaker 1: T Stadium. All right, make you always have phone number again?
Speaker 1: Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven.
Speaker 1: And I bet the phones are ringing off to her.
Speaker 1: Oh they knows definitely. Are you remember that that number
Speaker 1: is Cowboy numbers from the past, right? Eight five eight
Speaker 1: is Troy fifty five? You remember who do you go
Speaker 1: with from Cowboys history? Number fifty five? I go Leroy Jordan,
Speaker 1: Roy Jordan. Yeah, what you guys. That's how you remember,
Speaker 1: That's how you were. And see all right to tuesdays.
Speaker 1: We don't have to remember phone numbers because it's in
Speaker 1: our phone, right, Okay, Once upon a time we used
Speaker 1: to have to memorize phone numbers to actually call on
Speaker 1: a little phone. Okay, And so throughout history I remembered
Speaker 1: phone numbers by players numbers, so smart, Actually eight so
Speaker 1: this number would be eight five five that's Troy and
Speaker 1: in my case, I fifty five Leroy Jordan from my day? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: two two nine seven? Who would you get twenty two? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I go in it. Or you could go Bob
Speaker 1: Hayes way back. Okay, you can go nine and seven
Speaker 1: if you want it, you can, or you could go
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Okay, okay, I see what you're doing here.
Speaker 1: Who's your ninety seven Leroy Glover? Yes, he would have
Speaker 1: been the best, although ninety seven. Uh, Hatcher was pretty good, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's how I remember my license plate number two
Speaker 1: right there you go. Yeah, why do you need to
Speaker 1: remember it? Well, just in case when you check, you
Speaker 1: know what I have to remember? The reason? Yeah, the
Speaker 1: reason I try to remember my I recognize my license
Speaker 1: plate in a big parking lot I at the stadium,
Speaker 1: remember where there's a lot of black fifties out there.
Speaker 1: I know my lines. Oh that's it, you know. Or
Speaker 1: you can just click the remote and the lights come on.
Speaker 1: Take I've taken his license plate. Stephen Jones. My life
Speaker 1: was that all the air producers that was Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: taken care of that part. Problem by leaving my bike
Speaker 1: rack on top of my car. Oh that's good. A right,
Speaker 1: And with all this discussion, I have forgotten who our
Speaker 1: nexcholar is New Braunfels Anthony and the New Bronfels Home
Speaker 1: of the Unicorns. Oh my gosh, yeah, come with the
Speaker 1: unicorn that's right, high school team in New Braunfels. We
Speaker 1: figured out what you were talking of, sir. We didn't
Speaker 1: think they were growing them there. Yes, I did. My
Speaker 1: kids actually go to the new school Davenport Wolfs. Look
Speaker 1: them up there. They're coming up four a new one
Speaker 1: on Bill. That's good, Bill, write it down. They're in
Speaker 1: the same district with New Bronfels and Kenyon High School. No,
Speaker 1: we're four A they're six safe, but we're coming up
Speaker 1: slowly brand new school three years open and we're seven
Speaker 1: and one looking into the playoffs. All right? Now, Are
Speaker 1: the Rangers of Smithson Valley in that district too? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're but uh a Kenyan Lakers our divisional district there
Speaker 1: you go, all right? Than ninety seven? Would you consider
Speaker 1: Tuckle Tuckle Charleton? Yeah, a real funny guy. Okay, my
Speaker 1: question is real quick again. Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that Um, well, we consider giving up so many yards. Uh,
Speaker 1: if we only hold teams to maybe less than twenty
Speaker 1: four twenty points, would that be okay? If we do
Speaker 1: give up over one hundred two hundred yards, if we
Speaker 1: keep the teams to you know, twenty or negative points. Actually,
Speaker 1: actually that's a very good question because when Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: on Monday was asked about the number of yards that
Speaker 1: they gave up rushing, his answer was, well, what irritated
Speaker 1: me more is the rushing touchdowns or the amount of
Speaker 1: touchdowns we gave up. He goes, I don't really care
Speaker 1: about the yards, but it was the touchdowns that the
Speaker 1: Bears ended up scoring, and he goes, and we have
Speaker 1: to be better or with that because they ended up
Speaker 1: giving up what four touchdowns and going into the game,
Speaker 1: the only team that had scored more than one touchdown
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys was the Eagles, and that was was
Speaker 1: it three or was it two? And then? But anyway,
Speaker 1: I've got it right. But anyway, that's what he because
Speaker 1: they ended up having to run the ball forty times
Speaker 1: to get to two forty. Um, so I guess that's
Speaker 1: six yards to carry. There was one big long one, right,
Speaker 1: especially if a team is three touchdowns behind and they're
Speaker 1: still a quarter and the only thing they can do
Speaker 1: is run the ball. Then you just keep on running
Speaker 1: the ball. It's it's kind of like and even with
Speaker 1: passing the ball. I don't That's why I don't get
Speaker 1: caught up in whether a team necessarily is the number
Speaker 1: one right total defense, total defense, they go do it
Speaker 1: by total yards. Well, there's a lot of times where
Speaker 1: teams get up by four touchdowns in a game, and
Speaker 1: then so the team that's behind is throwing the ball
Speaker 1: so much that they're going to rack up yards. You're
Speaker 1: playing a prevent defense and you're going to give up yards,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to give up, you know, a
Speaker 1: explosion explosive play for a touchdown. So they gave up
Speaker 1: three touchdowns to the Eagles. Would they end up with
Speaker 1: twenty six points? Was that the score in that game? Yes?
Speaker 1: It was twenty six, right, twenty six seventeen. This game,
Speaker 1: they gave up four touchdowns. And I think that's what
Speaker 1: irritated dan Quinn the most more than and he brought
Speaker 1: I mean he mentioned it. You know, okay, the yards
Speaker 1: or yards, but we can't give up that many touchdowns. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think that might answer his question. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where he was going. Yards or yards, but
Speaker 1: it's the amount of that, right, touchdowns you give up
Speaker 1: is what you have to be careful about. So at
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in two games, in the other six they
Speaker 1: gave up five touchdowns. I believe it was total. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was. It was one one, one, one, one,
Speaker 1: three and then zero. I just want to emphasize that.
Speaker 1: I want to emphasize my point. Okay, every good, guys
Speaker 1: got it? All right? We're in our last minute here
Speaker 1: of a special edition of mix Shots with Jes Navarrez.
Speaker 1: So what are we going to do on our by weekend? Um?
Speaker 1: I have to start packing. I am moving, so my
Speaker 1: mom's actually coming this weekend, so I have to start
Speaker 1: packing everything up. And you good. I have to work Saturday,
Speaker 1: but I've got three out of four days off. Oh
Speaker 1: we got nothing to do, nothing to do already tape
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy. Actually we're doing that tomorrow tomorrow, so
Speaker 1: I guess I only have two of the three days.
Speaker 1: But that's only a half hour. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how long does it take to do a half
Speaker 1: hour show all the all the all the retakes we
Speaker 1: have to do it. It takes about three hours and
Speaker 1: the interviews different people. Right, yeah, yeah, well that's good.
Speaker 1: I am taking in a University of Missouri football game. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just your annual trips to Columbia. Yes, who you'll
Speaker 1: knock it off this week? The Kentucky Wildcats. There you go,
Speaker 1: going to be three in a row, three wins in
Speaker 1: a row. Wow, I've beaten Vanderbilt, beat in South Carolina,
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler in South Carolina. Yeah, and now you take
Speaker 1: on Mark Stoops Kentucky Wildcats, who are reeling a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well that's good because they've beaten Missouri the last few times.
Speaker 1: And the last time I saw him play Kentucky it
Speaker 1: was in a driving rainstorm in Lexington. And guess what
Speaker 1: the temperature and the weather report is for kickoff on
Speaker 1: Saturday rain? Right, it's like, give me a fifty degrees.
Speaker 1: It's football weather for you. Yeah, it's November football with
Speaker 1: Are you a big college football fan? I can't say
Speaker 1: I am okay, but I respect it. It's football. Yep.
Speaker 1: So rain's okay when you spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: this weekend watching football. Rain is okay when you're in
Speaker 1: the press box. But when you're sitting in the stands,
Speaker 1: not so much fun. Ye, what's Oklahoma got? We got Baylor?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here or there and it's in Norman. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I could go on and on about this.
Speaker 1: I want are you going no, it's gonna enjoy it.
Speaker 1: We're like, have you seen us play this year? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch that. It's for the fellowship.
Speaker 1: In fact, the game is not even televised, no way,
Speaker 1: it's streamed. Streams doesn't count three or whatever it is
Speaker 1: that that big twelfth conference only they only have five
Speaker 1: games a week. Okay, you're ten teams in the league.
Speaker 1: You got five conference games and only they only have
Speaker 1: TV windows for three of the games. Two of them
Speaker 1: are stream and owe you and the defending champion Baylor
Speaker 1: Bears and the time conference champion in the last twenty years, suitors.
Speaker 1: They can't get on TV. That's why. That's that's why
Speaker 1: we're heading. Yeah, we want to play the Missouri Tiger.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right? Soos, thank you all for letting
Speaker 1: me crash your party the last two days. It's been
Speaker 1: so much fun. It has very good Yes, talking with
Speaker 1: We'll see if Emerson is back on Monday or not
Speaker 1: send them a textas that's good. That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: All right, and have a great weekend, long weekend, and
Speaker 1: we will chat at you on Monday. The good thing
Speaker 1: about the bye week is you can watch other teams
Speaker 1: suffer on That's right. Okay. If you scouting scouting the
Speaker 1: next opponent, Green plays Detroit at noon on Sunday, there
Speaker 1: you go. Okay. If Troit comes up with a wind somehow,
Speaker 1: then it could be the three and six packers facing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at lambeau Field next week. There you go.
Speaker 1: All right, how's your homework assignment? Talk at you on Monday.
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