WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: What Would You Say 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.519 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:12.280 the Bengals Booth Podcast. Uh what would you say? Addition, 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.079 as we put Dave Lapham on the clock and on 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.160 the spot and get his prediction for what the Bengals 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.159 are going to do in the NFL Draft, and I 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.320 know what you're thinking. We already know what they're going 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.200 to do. Well, that's true in the first round. So 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.840 this year, I'll get laps prediction for their first pick 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.199 of the second round and it's not one of the 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.640 most frequently mentioned names. 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It's a tradition 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:19.280 on this podcast just before the draft for Dave Lapham 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.639 and me to play prognosticators, but this year we had 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.520 to change things up a bit, all right, lap Over 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.600 the years, you have become legendary for your ability to 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:35.160 predict the Bengals first round draft pick. Nostradamis like over 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.000 the years, Kevin Zeitler in two twelve, when the world 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.919 was saying David de Castro, Tyler Eifford in two thirteen, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.160 even though the Bengals still had Germaine Gresham at the time, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.000 John Ross with the ninth overall pick in two seventeen. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.880 So your track record is very good. I'm positive you're 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:58.119 going to get that first round pick right this year. Yeah, 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.640 I don't think. I don't think many you're gonna miss 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.720 miss this one. It's uh. Joe Burrow obviously is going 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.040 to be the guy, and he's been the guy I 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.600 think for quite a while. I think they've made the 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.520 decision on that a while ago. You have people like 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.320 Chris Simms saying it's to clean his tape he's ever 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.760 seen of a collegiate quarterback. And you know Chris Simms, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.920 I respect I did to cover to his games when 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.840 he played at University of Texas. His dad, Phil obviously 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.040 we know well and he understands quarterback play. Chris does 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.040 as well. So when guys say somebody like that says 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.160 gives that kind of an evaluation and meaning something that 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.800 you know, well, how about the year he did have 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.640 went to national championship, the Heisman going to be the 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.120 number one pick in the entire draft. That's a triffect 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.920 that not many people cann claim. Plus, he holds records 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.880 sixty touchdown and passes in a single season accounted for 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.640 sixty five total touchdowns. Those are both records. I mean, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.960 that's that's a resume that is just unbelievable. But you 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.640 know what's kind of weird since the coronavirus were last year, 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.720 Joe Burrow offers twenty eighteen season where by the way 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.240 LSU receivers led the country and drops. So Burrow wasn't 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.600 as bad as people think by his numbers in twenty 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.720 and eighteen, But Joe Brady would not be offensive coordinator Carolina. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.039 Joe Burrow would not have been able to show the 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.440 season if in fact, there is no college football. I mean, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.520 it's it's it's unbelievable how fate can can can be 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.719 the biggest factor in anybody's career right time, right place. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.520 With respect to Joe Burrow transferred to LSU, you know, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.159 avoiding a pandemic. As it turns out that it's it's 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.240 not the year that he has the season that he has, 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.240 or he wouldn't have had it. It would have been necessarily, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.440 it would have been totally different. And it's crazy when 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.360 you think about about that. But I think Joe Burrow 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.480 is is the guy that's going to be the first 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.320 pick of the draft, and deservedly so. Lap. I'm glad 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.960 you mentioned Joe burrows junior year because a lot of 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:01.280 people keep talking about his astronomical grow from junior year 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.440 to senior year. And there's no question that statistically, his 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.160 senior year stats are far better. But if you go 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.480 back and look at his last four games of his 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.000 junior year, you could see what was coming. He started 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.599 to do what he did as a senior in the 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.760 last four games. And if you look at his Fiesta 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.400 Bowl performance in particular against UCF that's a team that 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.960 had a twenty five game winning streak at the time. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.040 He got blindsided by a three hundred thirteen pound defensive 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.640 lineman after throwing an interception early in that game might 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.760 have killed another quarterback. He bounced us right up, fires 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.280 up his teammates throw us for three hundred ninety four 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.719 yards in four touchdowns. The Joe Burrow that the world 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.680 saw as a senior was starting to materialize in the 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.640 last four games of his junior year. Yeah, I think 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.520 that toughness we've talked about before started up in Ohio. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.560 Statement rber Meyer decided when he wasn't, you know, the 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.520 number one quarterback, he was down the ranks a little bit. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.280 He decided that he was a scrimmage. Joe Burrow with 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.000 twos and threes against your house state number one defense, 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.440 and he got brutalized, brutalized, you know, his mothers and 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.680 tears watching it in a squad scrimmages two saturdays in 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.120 a row. And all he did is, like you said, 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.640 get up, dust himself off, never you know, complained to 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.600 his teammates, to his coaches. All he did was play. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.719 And I think he won a lot of guns over. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.400 I mean, his teammates at Ohio State paying their own 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.040 way to get to the National Championship game. To watch 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.520 Joe Barrow in a national championship says everything I need 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.280 to know about Joe Barrow. He was on Goal Like 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.520 and Wingo this week on ESPN Radio, and I found 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.240 it very interesting. They're asking him about what he's been 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:43.600 able to do during these stay at home times, and 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.160 he actually said that he thinks it might be an 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.960 advantage for him. He's had no distractions. He hasn't been 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.160 flying around the country going from team to team for interviews. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.200 He's been basically working out where he can find patches 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.080 of grass, throwing to old high school buddies. And I 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.280 just like the fact that boy you talk about not 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:08.480 making excuses to say that in his personal development, this 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.240 actually could be advantageous. And it also gets back to 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.880 something you said on one of our previous podcasts. You 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.440 were hoping he wouldn't throw too much in the weeks 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.640 and months leading up to the draft, going from team 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.280 to team and doing workouts. Well, he's been able to 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.960 control that because of these stay at home restrictions. And 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.080 the reason that you know, I was hoping that Dan 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.080 is a lot of these first year of quarterbacks. You know, 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.560 they're not used to the length of the NFL schedule, 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.520 and it might not be that long this year, so 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.240 it might not be as big an adjustment for Joe Burrow, 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:43.240 who knows who knows what is in store. But other 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.120 other quarterbacks, I mean, they get on they have problems. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.520 The last quarter of the season. You know, it's just like, 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.520 oh my gosh, through so much in preparation for the drafts, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.239 then the draft, then the OTAs, then the mini camps, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.120 then this then that man, my arms hanging off my shoulder, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.080 and Joe won't experience of that. I mean, I do 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.480 think that this, this uh kind of time coming up 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.520 is tough though. When the OTAs and mini camps were 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.960 going to take place, Joe Burrow to get his timing 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.040 and rhythm down with you know, Aj Green and other receivers, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.640 and just to familiarize himself at the Bengals offense and 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.320 start to establish relationships with his teammates and just a 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.360 bonding that goes on. I remember, you know, way back 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.400 the day the first mini camp I went to. It's like, 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.400 oh boy, these guys are good. This is an adjustment. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.280 I mean, all of a sudden, you've better crank your 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.240 miles per hour up with your movement. You know, a 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.240 bunch of miles per hour. You're in the Audubon now 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.360 You're not on just a regular highway in the United 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.719 States of America. This stuff is fast, unfolds fast. So 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.280 I do think that there's a little bit of of 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.160 a of an issue with regard to that, because there's 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.320 no way you can mimic it. You know, he Joe 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.480 can't on his own, you know, virtually assimilate you know 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.400 what you would assimilate with with on the field experiences 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.880 that you would there are OTAs and mini camps and 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:03.000 you know, sinking up the timing and everything with utter 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.040 back on the National Football League. So with that in mind, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.240 does it make sense to try to hold on to 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.720 Andy Dalton if you can afford him as a mentor. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:18.480 Andy Dalton experienced something similar but different his first year 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.080 in the league as a rookie because there was a 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.640 work stoppage, so there wasn't an opportunity to install with 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.320 coaches like like Joe Burrow is going to experience virtually. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.720 I mean he's gonna be every single day, you know 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:39.480 with Zach with the coaching staff installation, all the mental 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.640 reps will be there, but it's more important in my 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.360 mind for the physical reps. And what the Bengals did, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.199 courtesy of Andrew Worth and Domant Peco being the two 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.160 leaders eat side of the football, basically established their own 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.920 little mini camps as such, with these workouts and the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.240 installation of the offense. These guys you know, looked at 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.760 that down. Pecco had the defense down and they made 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:06.160 it work. Andy Dalton got the timing down with his 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.840 guy drafted with him aj D Green and other receivers 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.000 and goes on to have a nine and seven record 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.240 once he gets back with Jay Gruden, and he's a 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.199 quick learner, um, you know, and goes to that nine 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.960 and seven record. So that that, in my mind is 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.600 a little bit better scenario than what Joe Burrow may 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:26.320 be facing. So yeah, I guess to have Andy Dalton 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.120 m right there in case Joe has issues, which I 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.600 don't anticipate, because the big thing on Joe Burrow, you know, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.920 his wonder List score comes out at thirty four, amongst 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.560 the highest of the quarterbacks. He's very smart in general 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.520 as well as football like you, and he's he's a 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.439 very competitive learner. And that's the thing about him. He's 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.680 the first guy in and the last guy to leave. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.880 And his preparation is like his teammates are in awe 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.480 of al Brady and Peyton Manning and people like that. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:59.439 So um, you know, it's it's it's going to be 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.680 an interesting, an interesting adjustment for all involved. You know, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.480 Joe borrowed the player of the coaches, his teammates, and 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.720 Andy Dalton's a He's a term insurance policy, is what 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.640 he is. He's a one year insurance policy if in fact, 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.520 he decides that it's okay with him to do that, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.360 if that's his best option. But he's not going to 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.600 do it at seventeen point seven million, that's for sure. 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.160 I thought it was interesting in his recent interview with 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.720 Mike Silver from NFL dot Com that really, for the 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.480 first time he said there was a scenario where he 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.480 could come back to Cincinnati. I think up until then, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.880 every bit of body language and anything he had said 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.839 in interviews before he left town at the end of 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.719 last season indicated that he was fully convinced that he 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.440 would be moving on and getting his chance somewhere else. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:50.640 And I still think that's probably likely. But at least 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:55.040 he opened the door to potentially being the veteran mentor 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.120 slash backup right. And I think if he decided, if 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.240 he gets his mind right in that regard, he'd be 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.640 as good as there is in the league, because you know, 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.760 he's he's not only a quality player, he's more than 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.600 quality human being. I mean he's he's up across human 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.880 being and um, you know, to have Andy Dalton as 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.960 somebody for Joe Barrow to bounce things off of, or 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.240 if in fact he is struggling, you know, to to 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.880 observe and watching Andy. Andy Dalton could install the Bengals 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.439 offense to Joe Barrow as well as anybody in the organization. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.079 So to have, you know, to have that as in 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.280 as a COVID charge policy would not be bad. And 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.560 like we've talked about, I mean, he's the victim of 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.800 the musical chairs. The music stopped, and there's more guys 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.520 than chairs. Two of the guys that are former first 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.360 picks in the NFL draft, you know, you get Cam 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.680 Newton and you get Jameis Winston out there. The teams 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.359 can sign when they if they so desire for no compensation, 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.760 no trade, and they can do new contracts. In Andy's case, 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.400 if the trade we're talking about draft capital and you're 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.840 talking about assuming a seven teen point seven million dollar contract, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.319 those are two inhibitors. For sure. The Patriots did pick 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.320 up an extra fourth round pick for Gronk, I'm sure 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.240 the Bengals would happily take it in exchange for Andy Dalton. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.120 It's interesting you look at the two teams that have 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.080 the most text in the draft of Miami Dolphins fourteen, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.880 I think that gives the Patriots at East doesn't maybe 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.560 more They were number two and a dozen, I think, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.800 and this one might give them thirteen. So both teams, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:36.600 you know, in need of quarterback others late lated mock drafts, 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.719 and so if it have the Patriots trying to make 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.240 a move for tah because you know, obviously Bill Belichick 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.200 and Nick Saban have a very very close relationship. You'd 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.800 get more information from Saban about two than anybody and 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.800 I think he does have a high respect for to it. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.480 But if he can't get to it. In my mind, Dan, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.280 like we talked about earlier, I think the guy that 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.160 could slide his love and you know, you see love 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.760 anywhere from some were in the top ten in some 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.320 mock drafts, not even being draft in the first round 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.400 another mock drafts, and I think he is. He's the 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.160 one that there's a big divergence of opinion on and 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.199 if he's there at the end of the first round, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.480 the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, with the with the 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.960 teams that have the most draft capital, now, the Miami 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.760 Dolphins would have already had their first three pick their 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.480 three first rounds beyond they still have eleven picks though, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.040 left to work a deal with Kansas City. The Patriots 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.120 would still have a dozen picks or so themselves to 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.760 work a deal if Kansas City doesn't want to work 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.840 a deal. And the reason the teams wouldn't want to 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.080 work the deal is like to them, Lamar Jackson thing 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:41.800 trade up to the end of the first round. Get 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.560 the fifth year in the rookie contract. Instead of four years, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.360 you get him for five and you can build accordingly 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.120 around him and make it a better football team. But 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.080 if Kansas City doesn't want to do it, it it takes 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.320 two to tango. Who's the next team? You know, a 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.720 few twelve hours later, the Bengals are around the clock, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.960 and you've got two teams that Okay loves are the 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.200 last option, the Patriots and the Dolphins, both in the 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.440 same division. We want to get them. We don't want 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.480 the other team to get them. I mean, there may 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.320 they have all kinds of draft capital left. There may 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.760 be an opportunity there. It's going to be interesting. I 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.400 think Kansas most slides Kansas City and the Bengals are 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.160 going to be getting a lot out of phone calls 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:24.040 at the end of day one in the beginning of 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.200 day two, depending on how it all unfolds. All right, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.600 so you have extended your streak of nailing the Bengals 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:35.240 first pick, selecting Joe Burrows, and now let's have some 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.480 fun this year. We want a definitive prediction. Will each 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:43.840 give one a definitive prediction for the Bengals selection at 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.880 the top of the second round if they wind up 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.400 choosing thirty third overall, what do you say, Dave Lapham, 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.280 My dream pick would be Kenneth Murray, but that's a 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:57.320 pipe dream. He's not going to be there. Patrick Queen 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.520 would be another dream pick, but he's I don't think 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.360 he's going to be there. Dan that those guys I 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.720 think are just you know, Chase On, Patrick Queen, Marma. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.600 We've talked about those guys in the past. I'd be 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.880 if any one of those guys are there, man run 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.640 up to Santa Claus and give it a turn in 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.360 the card because it's Christmas. But I do think, you know, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:21.120 Zach Bonn could could be there. He's more of an 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.800 outside guy. I think the guy that they need a 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.720 little bit better fit. I've talked about Jordan Brooks, and 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.440 I've seen he's starting to get a little bit more, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:35.440 a little bit more buzz. And I've seen him, you know, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:39.400 in some mock drafts, moving up, moving up pretty significantly. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.680 I like the guy. I mean, he's this kid is 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.280 six feet, two hundred and forty pounds, ran a four 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.640 to five three. I mean, you've got two hundred and 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:53.960 forty pound linebackers running like cornerbacks. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.760 how these guys are our genetic freaks. You've got thirty 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.240 four thirty five inch length arms. I mean, he is, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:06.000 he can come downhill, make plays, He'll run sidelines to sideline. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.560 He's a he's a contact ratio guy. He just watch him. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.320 He just impacts the game. He impacts the game on 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.399 a snap by snap basis. So you know, I'm wondering 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.600 the thirty three is a little bit too rich for him. 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.920 But he's a he might be a little bit better 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.440 fit because he's a he's a space linebacker, space stack 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.440 linebacker and off the line of scrimmage, you know, a linebacker. 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.240 And I think I do think, you know, I think 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.840 Zach Bond would get some consideration. I think it might 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.240 be a little bit too rich for Zack Bond potentially, 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:38.439 and it might be a little bit too rich for 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:42.439 Jordan Brooks. But you know, would they go offensive lineman 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.399 at that point? Dan, I mean, it's one of the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.320 top four tackle slides. You know, they may have to 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.480 think about that. And as we've talked about, I mean, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.400 this dis draft is interesting in that last year, twelve 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.959 defensive lineman went in the first round. Twelve people panic 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.080 there were defensive lineman being drafted at the end of 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.200 the first round that a lot of people had rated 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.120 as third round picks. But when the run started, people panicked. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.240 You know, will the run be? It could be as 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.679 balanced the first round. Could be four quarterbacks taken, at 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.120 least four receivers, at least four linebackers, at least four 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.440 offensive line at least four cornerbacks. Okay, which one of 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.040 those position groups is going to get the run? And 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.879 that's what's going to be interested in for the Bengals 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.960 if the run happens somewhere else. But instead of wide receiver, man, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.919 if you got a wide out there game that you 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.439 had rated the middle, you know, fifteen to twenty in 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.360 the first round. How the hell do you not take 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.600 the guy at at thirty two. So it is going 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.919 to be a very interesting, interesting draft for the Bengals, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.440 and to have that first pick in the second round, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.240 Like we've talked about the phone calls they might get, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.000 irrespective of that, it doesn't matter about that. They're going 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.560 to be the first one to be able to take 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.840 the slider. Well, whoever the slide guy is, the Bengals 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.159 are in position to say, bone, that's my guy. What 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.440 if aj Taro is there from Clemson, this kid, I mean, 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.480 a cornerback could slide that. You know, people really like. 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.000 It's fast, he's long, he's fluid. I mean, the guy 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.880 can play and you know you'd think, wow, how about 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.520 if a cornerback like that is still there at thirty three? 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.600 And that's that's a premost spot for the Bengals to be. 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.400 I mean, that's why I think, I really do think 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.879 that there's there. They'll be maybe a handful of guys, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.240 maybe a half a dozen guys that they'd be good 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.400 with at thirty three. So if somebody wants to trade up, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.359 you know, just don't trade back. More than you know, 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.600 five or six spaces. Make sure you're still in the thirties. 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.119 Don't trade out of the thirties. You'll still get a 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.679 guy that you've you've evaluated, okay at thirty three and 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:46.760 still and then pick up another pick. I would like 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.840 to see the Bengals. I don't think this is a 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.440 great year again to have twelve to fourteen draft picks 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.199 because of the coronavirus. Hell, how many you're gonna make 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.440 the kick? How can you evaluate how many you're gonna evaluate? 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.439 How many draft picks and how many college fusions. I 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.280 don't think teams are gonna bring ninety players in. Why 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.680 the hell would you bring ninety players in. You might 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.280 only bring in seventy seventy five eighty players because instead 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.080 of evaluating these guys and thinking, oh, this guy might 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.320 be one of my best you know, fifty one, fifty two, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.679 fifty three, and my roster. Hell, with that, you know 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.159 you got you gotta start really working on your team, 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.480 putting your team together. The whole process is going to 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.040 be sped up. If you're cluttered with ninety players. I 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.119 think that's going to be an interesting dynamic too. So 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.600 to move it makes sense to the Dolphins, the Patriots 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.679 to get off some of their picks, and I'd like 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.119 to see the Bengals maybe pick up a couple, you know, 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.160 maybe have nine draft choices instead of seven. I mean, 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.000 seven wouldn't be terrible, particularly where they're picking them, But 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.160 you know, nine picks, you know, you start to get 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.680 up to double dig digits in this year of the coronavirus. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.080 How the hell you're going to evaluate an everybody? Anyway? 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.399 You may not have a training camp, much of a 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.080 training camp to evaluate these guys. They've already cut one 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.960 preseason game off, but down in the three preseason games, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:01.440 you know, I don't know, it's it's just I don't think. 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:04.080 I don't think this is the best year years to 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.200 have all those draft picks accumulated because of the coronavirus. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.960 All right, So if they wind up choosing at number 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:16.520 thirty three overall and Murray and Queen aren't there, Jordan Books, 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.560 Jordan Brooks, rather, linebacker from Texas Tech, four year starter, 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.920 is your guy? All right? I'm gonna cheat a little 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.159 bit on my guy. Peter King came out with his 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:31.320 mock draft on Monday. He said that Queen is still 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.160 going to be there, So I will say, Queen, now, 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:36.920