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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello everybody, this is the almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Ben and we have the new Bachelorette Becca. I

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Speaker 1: mean we're spoiled right now. We get her two weeks

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Speaker 1: in a row. I know, no stop now, I feel

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Speaker 1: very perfect. The best part about and I've I've tried

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Speaker 1: to watch Beck of the day. Um, she's just completely

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Speaker 1: untainted by press, so like she's still very happy and

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Speaker 1: like willing to do anything. So I'm glad we get

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Speaker 1: this at the beginning because I promise you and like

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Speaker 1: four months this would be like a huge ask of you,

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here. Yeah, she's so excited

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Speaker 1: to do it. It's nice rush off the plane. So

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of look like, what am I going right now? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: we we enjoy having you said this is your beyond

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Speaker 1: s moment? What do you mean by that? My ash

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Speaker 1: We'll have this mike set up in front of me

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Speaker 1: sitting with you guys. I'm like, I need some wind

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Speaker 1: blowing in my hair. I need a nice to beat

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Speaker 1: behind me and leotard. Maybe she's definitely loosing from she's

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Speaker 1: definitely it sounds like something as she would say. But

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Speaker 1: the funny part is actually has these like outrageous comments

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Speaker 1: like this is my Beyonce moment. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that means, and then she explains it. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. And unfortunately you can like Ashley is

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Speaker 1: known to trace everything back to like some pop culture

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Speaker 1: moment and she's great at it. And so when you

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Speaker 1: said Beyonce moment, like I was describing it, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: sitting around with our portable podcast equipment, Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: we are in this really cool sky sky Sky. We're

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Speaker 1: at the sky Sweets. Let's be correct here, We're in

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Speaker 1: the sky Sweets at the MGM. What are we doing

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Speaker 1: here right now? Like? Why are we at the MGM?

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Speaker 1: You explained that because it's really all about you. It's

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Speaker 1: really it's not even about this is really her month,

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Speaker 1: it's all about me. Um Okay. So the MGM just

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Speaker 1: opened us Bachelor uh slot machine, and it just happens

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Speaker 1: to have my face, Nick Fole's face, Shan Low and

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Speaker 1: Jake Pavelka, and so we're out here promoting that because

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Speaker 1: it's a really cool game. It's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, it's gonna make a lot of people a

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Speaker 1: lot of money, so make sure you come out and

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Speaker 1: play and had people lose a lot of money. Well,

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Speaker 1: either way, the MGM is gonna make money or the

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Speaker 1: people are gonna make money. And so we're out promoting that.

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Speaker 1: And we just thought what better way to do a

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Speaker 1: podcast than live and in person? Um, Becca, how are

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Speaker 1: you holding up? I'm doing great again? A little loopy

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Speaker 1: right now? You can a f right now, tann And

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Speaker 1: happy you looking great? Girl? Yeah? We just we just

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Speaker 1: got done talking about the fact that we both have

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Speaker 1: Bible versus tattooed on our bodies. Um, and so I

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Speaker 1: was sharing my store about my tattoo is where they

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Speaker 1: actually messed up and it was the wrong verse. It

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Speaker 1: says proverb sixteen thirty four when I got it done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now that's why I have a cross after the

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Speaker 1: three because that used to be a four. So for

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Speaker 1: like four weeks of my life, I had a tattoo

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Speaker 1: that was incorrect on my body. And it just happens

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Speaker 1: to be a bio verse, Like it wasn't like the

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Speaker 1: no Regrets tattoo. Have you seen that? Remember, like across

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Speaker 1: the chest? Now, this is a Bible verse. I feel

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Speaker 1: like of tattoos get messed up. Um, So here's the story.

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Speaker 1: I went back home for Thanksgiving, my parents and I

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Speaker 1: got in a massive argument. Year. This was my freshman

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Speaker 1: year of college. So this has been two thousand eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's when. That's when I started college. So long story

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Speaker 1: short to not born anybody. We got. I got a

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Speaker 1: massive fight with my parents and I said, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do something that really makes them mad. So I left

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Speaker 1: my home and I drove down to Bloomington, and on

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Speaker 1: the way, I was so angry, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something crazy. I'm just gonna really rebel here.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm gonna get a Bible Verse tattoo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to show them. Yeah, that's not very tough,

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Speaker 1: now that I say that out loud. And so I

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Speaker 1: went down and I had some drinks because I knew

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Speaker 1: that I was going to be getting a tattoo for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of hours. Are you legal, Ben? Definitely not.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, Ashley, because I'm a rebel. And so

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Speaker 1: I called him my buddies ask him to take me

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Speaker 1: to the tattoo parlor. We walk in and I'm just

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Speaker 1: laying there the whole time enjoying myself getting a tattoo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I was just kind of like hanging out. I'm

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Speaker 1: and I showed my buddy my tattoo and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what Bible verse did you say? This was me? What

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Speaker 1: this was was like proverb sixteen three. It's like your

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Speaker 1: side says proverb si, And sure enough it did. So

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Speaker 1: now I have a cross on my side that covers

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Speaker 1: up the four So if you ever see me at

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Speaker 1: a pool shirtless, that cross is not meant to be there.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe in the cross, so it's all good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good Yeah. So it's a good touch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at least with the Bible verse, you can't go home

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Speaker 1: and really regret it. You're like, oh, that was a

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Speaker 1: stupid saying. It's not it's always gonna be a good thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was my That was my comment, was like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna eat a Bible verse. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: felt this way back at because if I ever regret

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Speaker 1: having a Bible Verse on me, then I know I'm

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Speaker 1: at a place in life that I've never wanted to be,

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Speaker 1: so that that transitions into into this world. Back up,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk for a second. Um, Ashley and

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Speaker 1: I are huge fans of you, like massive fais. We

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Speaker 1: talked about you every week we've been to extent. We're

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Speaker 1: not always fans of people on the show. We get

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Speaker 1: in trouble sometimes because we're pretty voiceterous about not being

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Speaker 1: fans of some people. With you, we are your biggest supporters. Um,

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Speaker 1: because you're authentic, you're genuine. I mean this, this whole

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Speaker 1: press tour thing, it gets repetitive, right, You're gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you the same questions. There's gonna be a moment where

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Speaker 1: you're like, I haven't said something I actually mean in weeks.

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Speaker 1: But really because press is repetitive. Because they ask you

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Speaker 1: a question are you happy and why? And you're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: of course I'm happy and this is why. And you're

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Speaker 1: just gonna continue to say that over and over again

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Speaker 1: to eight different people in one room. It gets repetive. Lies. No,

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Speaker 1: they're not lies. I'm just saying you haven't haven't said

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Speaker 1: anything you actually feel like where you're angry, you can't

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Speaker 1: be angry during press tours, so you can be like,

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Speaker 1: I am happy in my love life, but right now

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Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated with saying the same thing over and over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I meant. And because you're genuine

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Speaker 1: and you're authentic, and I think that you're going to

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Speaker 1: carry this franchise with a lot of dignity in respect. So, um,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming the podcast, but it just also thanks

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Speaker 1: for being doing you and being you through this whole process. Um.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's all it can be. And you get

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Speaker 1: prettier and prettier the day. I just kind of want

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Speaker 1: to stare at you. You feel like, Okay, so this

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Speaker 1: comment was made earlier. Do you all feel like the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor's or bachelor AT's get better looking once they enter

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Speaker 1: into being the bachelor Bachelor? Att Yes? Always? Why because

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Speaker 1: we have a team glam Damn. Okay, who is that

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Speaker 1: it's carry Fatman Gina without them Megan and Rougeo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they make sure that we look at yeah

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Speaker 1: everybody like so many producers, but it's true, right, like

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Speaker 1: people seem to get better looking once they actually become

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor Bachelor. I think I got fatter. I did

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Speaker 1: was never the Bachelor bachelorette, but I've gotten fathers through

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Speaker 1: all the seasons. I think I'm just happier. I was

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Speaker 1: looking at you like I could just stare her you

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Speaker 1: are on camera. I'm looking at myself right now. I

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Speaker 1: have morning face. I have this thing I call morning

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Speaker 1: face where I feel like my my face hasn't completely

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Speaker 1: drained and it's just really puffy. Story of my life

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Speaker 1: really three months. Ye morning face. It's the bag area.

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Speaker 1: It's this whole it's this whole area like cheek boning

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Speaker 1: I think it just I don't even think it's morning

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Speaker 1: face for me anymore. I think it's just life face.

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Speaker 1: It's not. I'm looking at you right now. That's the

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Speaker 1: ice stuff that you do, right, You can in your

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Speaker 1: face for this. That's what I would do on The

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Speaker 1: Bachelor to provide that or put spoons under our Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's goods are really good too. Yeah. You know, I

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Speaker 1: have never told Ashley this, and it's a good moment

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Speaker 1: to break it because we're in person. When Ashley did

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Speaker 1: her season with Chris Souls, I had the biggest crush

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Speaker 1: on actually what I really did. She's gorgeous, everybody, she's

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Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous and you've never come out before. And three,

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Speaker 1: the podcast, we have the safe stuff, right, we can't

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Speaker 1: we're already going to get good ratings. With Beckett, here's

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Speaker 1: always challenge and push you Ye, exactly learned about one another,

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Speaker 1: that's right. But there was one scene where you and

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Speaker 1: Chris are making out, like I feel like you were

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Speaker 1: sitting on like alledge somewhere allege. There was one where

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Speaker 1: we were up on a balcony. Yes, yeah, and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a very intense scene and it was the

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Speaker 1: first time I had seen you kiss, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Chris kiss Chris, and I felt jealousy at that time,

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Speaker 1: was a very intense kiss, very sloppy. That's something that's

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Speaker 1: gotten better over time camera. I just remember watching it

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, when you're in the studio next time,

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Speaker 1: all make sure that I haven't pulled up and we're

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Speaker 1: you guys, um listening. We are going to have backa

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Speaker 1: back in studio this coming Tuesday, an entire hour episode

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Speaker 1: with her. So make sure you email your questions and

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Speaker 1: put them down in the Facebook group. Yeah, definitely. Ben

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Speaker 1: joined the Facebook group. Do you have a Facebook? I do, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't do a lot with it, but I do

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Speaker 1: have a Facebook. Yeah, so our Facebook group is is growing,

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Speaker 1: I hear ah, yeah, I think we're like that. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot more than my Facebook before. I know. Next

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Speaker 1: week's a big week for us. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: blast and so we're gonna save a lot for their

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Speaker 1: I do want to know, based on the kissing conversations,

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Speaker 1: are you ready to watch yourself kiss up close with

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Speaker 1: the sounds? I mean, I know with Aria happened, but

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see this every day every night with your

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Speaker 1: family watching. Just wait, you have an intense makeout scene

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Speaker 1: with your your family there. No, I'm not ready for

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Speaker 1: that at all. I'm gonna have to put blinders on

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Speaker 1: the entire time. Did you get used to that? Actually?

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Speaker 1: Like watch it? I think, well, I think I just

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Speaker 1: got better over time, so it was less awkward watching it.

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Speaker 1: But Becca, are we going to see you kiss as

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Speaker 1: much as we've seen the like past five years of

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Speaker 1: get this, yeah anymore and like and and then things

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00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: like it'll be fine, You'll be happy. Yeah about I

424
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: worry about you often. It's like, oh really no, I

425
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: worry about you often. Yeah, one one time I had.

426
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: It's always very positive in real life when people meet

427
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: you in her life, they're always so nice. But in

428
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: terms of like real concern, well, I feel like I

429
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 1: always get don't cry so much or don't don't worry,

430
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: It'll happen for you, Like I get those, But you

431
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: know what was my most traumatic meeting of somebody the

432
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: only time they weren't nice to meet in real life.

433
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: I was in a bathroom in the Bahamas with Carly

434
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: and Jade. This is after Bachelor in Paradise three, and

435
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: Carly was there with Evan and engaged. So then Jane

436
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: Tanner were there, and this is where Emmy was actually conceived. Anyway, long,

437
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: long story short, this woman came up does in the

438
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: bathroom and goes, oh my gosh, Jade and and Curly,

439
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. It's so wonderful to see

440
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: you guys found love. And she looks at me and

441
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: she goes, actually grow up. Oh I know, that's yeah,

442
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: it was I like basically welled up, my dear. Yeah,

443
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of condescending. I've never someone do that,

444
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: I know, right, there's just a lot of comments. Like

445
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: even today as we were promoting the slot machine, I was,

446
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and this lady came by and

447
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: she said some long lines of are you happy, And

448
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: I said, I am happy. She goes with yourself and

449
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I it, yeah, remember, because that's when we got soliloquy

450
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: about how if you're happy with yourself, then life's good,

451
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: Like then you're doing okay. I mean they have great

452
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: expectations for you back. What mean they're like, well, I

453
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: mean we get it. You know, I don't know, man, Um, Nick,

454
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: what's new in your life? What's going on? Tell us

455
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: a little bit of catch us up much, man? I

456
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: mean you're acting. Yeah, you just had a segment we

457
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: just talked about it on General Hospital. UM, that's pretty

458
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: awesome playing yourself but also playing a pretty cool role

459
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: that a lot of like really talented people have done

460
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: in the past. Well, Mario Lopez is very talented. Yeah,

461
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: it was a scripted role. I played a host. I mean,

462
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: I guess I played myself. UM as the host. They

463
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: have this thing in the show called the Nurses Ball,

464
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: which because it's General Hospital nurses and UM it's a

465
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: great award show. And I had the great pleasure of

466
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: interviewing UM in a scripted format of you know, what

467
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: was going to take place in the crazy world of

468
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: General Hospital. Do you think someone died afterwards? I think

469
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: there was a murder We've talked about often on this podcast.

470
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: Actually when we were my favorite favorite question because this

471
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: wasn't part of the script, Like when we're done, like

472
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: doing the scenes. Was have you killed anyone? Or have

473
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: you been killed? Because that isn't that what happens? I

474
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want traditional. Also, you get killed

475
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: and you come back like they always come back. Yeah,

476
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: the weaken step sister, that's what I wanted to know.

477
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: That reminds me this was it was soap oper is

478
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: the original reality television? Now because it's not it's completely scripted. Well,

479
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: that's a terrible You just can't win today. We all

480
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: know the first reality TV was Paris Hilton? Was she not? Yeah?

481
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: The Simple Life is definitely, But I think what Ben

482
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: means is like over the top drama. Yeah, like the

483
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: original Like, yeah, I'm not stupid. It's scripted and unscripted,

484
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: but it was stupid. Question. No, I think it's a

485
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: pretty good question. Was soap my forehead? Right now? Um?

486
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: Soap operas the original form of entertainment for the people

487
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: that love reality television? Yes, melodramatic? Did you watch him now?

488
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: My mom always watched all my children. My mom was

489
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: a big soap opera person, which is surprising because she's

490
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: not a reality television fan. She I think it was

491
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: around the world as the World turns. Yeah, so it

492
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: no longer does that. But I remember growing up having

493
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: that on TV often, which is surprised because it doesn't

494
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: really seem like my mom today, I got to talk

495
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: to her about that. What does your mom like to watch? Um,

496
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: they're my dad's a big Cubs fans. They watch a

497
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: lot of Cubs, the big like voice in American Idol

498
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: fans and the Big Bachelor fans. I wonder what the

499
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: Bachelor for some reason, Um, you know, it was kind

500
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: of my mom and I thing. Uh. After I moved

501
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: back home after college, for like a year, we watched

502
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: both season. We really enjoyed it. Um, but no who

503
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: would have known? Like, how crazy is that one day

504
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: in five years my son is going to be that Bachelor?

505
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean I watched Chris Souls this season and Andy

506
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: season from the couch at my parents house. I remember

507
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: this clearly because we we got into the show, like

508
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: I remember that. This is an iconic scene for me.

509
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I remember the moment that we had last week had

510
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Josh Murray in the podcast. Um, it was unique, um, honestly,

511
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: and awareness it was something nick so you know you

512
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: know Josh well, um, hey Ben um to the scene

513
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: that was that was absolutely back to the scene as

514
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: Josh Murray confronts a guy after he gave a number

515
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: to a waitress. Remember this scene like where there you

516
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: guys are all to dinner something and he like was like, hey,

517
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: that's okay. And there was a moment I was like,

518
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: that guy's a stand up dude. He's willing to face controversy,

519
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: fight for fight for love. I remember that with my

520
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: mom and we were like, that's a good guy. Yeah, yeah,

521
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: sometimes get and now look at us now we're talking

522
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: about it with all of you, all of the people

523
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: that I grew up watching I now sit in the

524
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: room with right now. How special am I watching actually

525
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: make out with Chris? Watching Nick dress as a mine? Dum?

526
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: We didn't go through the whole Ben had a crush

527
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: on me during Chris's season. Sorry, we didn't finish this.

528
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: We got to go back to it. Yes, or after

529
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: you suck Chris face off? That was apparently during he

530
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: said he was jealous while watching that. I mean I wasn't. Actually,

531
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean when did you lose the crush? When you

532
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: met me? And probably after watching you sucks face you

533
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: were jealous? You know? Yeah? I think I think watching

534
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: that show actually you're GORGEO, You're absolutely beautiful. And so

535
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: you watch that, I think everybody says, everybody comes up

536
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: to me. I know it happens. It's all they're like that,

537
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: actually she's one beautiful person, Like, yes she is. And

538
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: so you watch the show and you're like, she's beautiful.

539
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: And then I got to know You're like we're just

540
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: we're good friends. Like this makes sense. And so there

541
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: wasn't like a lack of like loss of love. I'm

542
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: not sitting here like actually like there's a lack of

543
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: love for you. It's like I just absolutely adore you

544
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: as a person. But on that show, I was like,

545
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: that girl is gorgeous. Who else I thought it was

546
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: really pretty? Another good example Samantha Stephens oh Man, Yeah,

547
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: insanely very similar. Look thank you. The personal no way

548
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: you guys keep it coming actually is actually saying stop

549
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: but actually continue. But I love it. But I do,

550
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I do. I love it. I remember my first real

551
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: interaction with you, Ben, You're actually were in my hotel

552
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: room and there was like ten other people a mismatch

553
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: of my season and Caitlin season, and it was after

554
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: your mental all and I just remember how like when

555
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: I was talking. You were completely invested in every word

556
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: I was saying, and I was like, Ben Higgins really

557
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: is the Prince Charming that he is on TV? And

558
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: then I basically texted my mom and I go, I'm

559
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna marry Ben, you know. And then and then and

560
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: then we do a podcast together. See, there's just a

561
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: lot of love you. That's why this worked. And then

562
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: we're both happy, we both fighting for love in the world,

563
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: and we're just supporting each other through it. Can we

564
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: talk about Benjamin Button Nick for a second. I'm just

565
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: looking at Sorry now is actually insane how much younger

566
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: he looks now than when he was on Andy season.

567
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: What's your secret? First? Yeah, yeah, you lost six months

568
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: since you just sat down. I have no clue how

569
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: this happened. I actually do know how this happened. This

570
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: is the perfect podcast for this, this transition. Here, we

571
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: have one of the reasons why Nick stays so young

572
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: and so fit on the podcast today with us Dan Cox, Um, Dan,

573
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: do you mind stepping into the seat here and replacing Nick.

574
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: Nick thinks so much for coming on the podcast. Thank you, Nick.

575
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: Next time, What a smooth transition. Nick. One day you'll

576
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: come back with our secrets with your secrets of youth

577
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: please So, so Dan Cox is sitting here with us

578
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: right now, Dan, before we get into before we getting anything,

579
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: can we talk about that photo you have with me,

580
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: the photo in the this from does This season six

581
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: years ago. The spacial hair does you so well? Thank you?

582
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: And so does the lengthen on your hair, You're like,

583
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: grow your hair out? Yes, the guy should always have

584
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: a couple of inches if they have hair, have it

585
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: the Okay, So Dan, before we get into how you're

586
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: helping Nick look young because you look work out stuff. Um,

587
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: can you catch up a little bit. How the people

588
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: out there know you? Yeah, so you probably don't know

589
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: me from Desiree season. I was only on it for

590
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: about three weeks and then yeah, and then I was

591
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: on Bachelor Paradise too with Ashley. Yes, you were any

592
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: dated Ashley Salter, thank you for bringing that up. You

593
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: and Mike Flace Mike Place did it before and now

594
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: here I am recording it. That's how I'm remembered. So

595
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: so Yeah, but it was it was a great experience.

596
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: And it's crazy. I mean it's been what three years now,

597
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: it will be three years in jam. Yeah, it's nuts.

598
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: But but yeah it was. It was good run, great experience,

599
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: and uh, life's been good. Since you have a girlfriend,

600
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: don't you do, Yeah, tell us about it. Natalie she is,

601
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: she's amazing. So she lives in l A. We go

602
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: back and forth from l A to Vegas, and uh,

603
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: we've just made it work. She was actually on Survivor

604
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: Reality Star a couple it happened. Um and she did

605
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: another Sean e too. But yeah, no, we've kind of

606
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: like all that's behind us and uh, just conctrate on

607
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: each other and it's been good. That's awesome, man. Okay,

608
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: So in all seriousness, let's talk about some of the

609
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: stuff you're doing, because I know I love the products

610
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: that you've developed and that you market and you sell.

611
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh Nick uses them as well, so uh and that

612
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: was my that was kind of my plug there. I'll

613
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff that you sell is really great.

614
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Can you just tell everybody out there what you're doing

615
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: and and and in all seriousness of how these products

616
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: can help them? For sure. So so I'm in the

617
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: nutrition world. Um, I started opening up breaking morder nutrition

618
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: stores and then SolV voids in the market of of

619
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: products that weren't available that I want to take UM.

620
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: So I started developing my own product line, so I

621
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: have to really one is called met Con that's more

622
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: for you know, endurance and performance, and then another one

623
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: called Wealthy, which is much more like health central focus

624
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: get people that are goals optimized health UM. And uh,

625
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, the whole point behind it was to find

626
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: the cleanest possible nutrients I could find, make them gluten free,

627
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: soy free, dairy free, make them non intimidating UM and

628
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: very simple for people to take and understand what they

629
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: need UM. And then with that, you know, it was

630
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: my intention that you know, how lucky are we and

631
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the people that are buying these products to supplement our diets,

632
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: ford op themal health and there's people that can't even

633
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: afford to put a meal on the table. So I

634
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Speaker 1: partnered up with Feeding America and so for every product

635
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Speaker 1: we sell, we donated meal to someone I need through

636
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: local food banks. That's absolutely credible. I mean, that really

637
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: is great, and and honestly, I think I have to

638
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: give you Maybe maybe Nick Will won't own up to it,

639
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: but I have to give you a lot of credit

640
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: because the reason that I feel like I'm in good

641
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: shape right now, and I feel like I have energy

642
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: and a clear mind is really because of the products

643
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: that you have, Fison and that I bought from me.

644
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: So uh, I would say, anybody out there looking to

645
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: kind of take the next step in their health, um,

646
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: how can they find you so you can go? For performance,

647
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: it's metcon dot com, M E T C O N

648
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: dot com. And then for the wealthy line, it's I'm wealthy,

649
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Speaker 1: so I m W E L L T H y

650
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Speaker 1: And actually, fun fact, you guys both worked with Fat

651
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: Fit Fund right so they're huge supporters. Um. And so

652
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: for any fat Fit Fund members, there's actually a couple

653
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: of products on the box add on right now if

654
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: they're interested, like ridiculous price so um, if you guys are, yeah,

655
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: just look up. It's Wealthy Sweat and her Um. So

656
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: it's a fat burn and then a women's multi item

657
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: and with the hair, skin and nail complex. So any

658
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Fat Fit Fund members if not, goes right to the website.

659
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: We're both numbers. Were in the box, all my boxes,

660
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: all my boxes. They're really good. Dana, can you give

661
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: us a little bit something funny that happened with Ashley asked,

662
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: just because our audience is gonna love it. Your girlfriend

663
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: may not. But is there anything that didn't make air

664
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: or a very memorable moment that you'd like you'd like

665
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: to regale our audience with. There was there was one

666
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: time when we were like just I would think it

667
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: was the Rose Ceremony where it was pretty much like

668
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: we were done, and she grabbed me and was like

669
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: we need to talk and I'm like okay, and she's

670
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: like follow me, and I'm like where are we going?

671
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: And you remember the stairs like kind of up to

672
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: where you get taken away and I'm like, what's going

673
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: on here? And I was like, I'm not sure what

674
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: was happening? This a bird moment? Yeah, And she was like,

675
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: come with me and I want you to show you

676
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 1: the birds. And I'm like, I'm like kind of freaking

677
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: out right now. And it's like dark, there's no light

678
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: or anything, and like all of a sudden, Louis comes

679
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: out of nowhere the producer and grabs me and he's like,

680
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: yeahn I need talk to you. Come with me. And

681
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? Man? He's like, dude, I

682
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: just need to talk to you. Come with me. And

683
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: I'm like and he was watching the whole time, saw

684
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: her pull me away and was like, dude, I was

685
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: scared for you. I just saved you know. Yeah. And

686
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: he's like, I didn't know if she's going to take

687
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: you in the bird cages and what was gonna happen.

688
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I appreciate it, Lily, as if

689
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: the birds were gonna Parteah, you guys date after this story.

690
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: You never kissed again? Yeah, it was done at that point.

691
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I kind of find that attractive interest. And you're still

692
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: single right now. Yeah, a little crazy hurting nobody. Ashley

693
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: is very married with a two year old child, and

694
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: she was honestly, she was great. But yeah, that was

695
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: a funny story that I give the listeners. Dan. You know,

696
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: we have a lot of very uh um, very big

697
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: fans of the show on this they'll listen to this

698
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: podcast and they'll all know your name. Um, but I

699
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: am I think I don't know about that. Well, I

700
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: think they will. And this is my question. Then, you

701
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: were only on for three weeks, you did do Paradise?

702
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: How like, how what do you Why do you think

703
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: people know you so well? I mean a lot of

704
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: people that were only on for three weeks I would

705
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: never know their name. I would never know who they are.

706
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: Dan Cox is a staple in the Bachelor world. How

707
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: does that happen? I don't think it was from the Bachelor.

708
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I think after the Bachelor that no one knew who

709
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: I was. I think it was probably bachel in the

710
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Paradise um. And it was just because I was on

711
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: there the whole time with Ashley and you know, we

712
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: kind of it was it was a cool group you

713
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: kind of really big role. It was. It was like

714
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: it was fun, like we had a good time and

715
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't um, you know, it wasn't all the pressures

716
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: of you know, the Bachelor aute with you guys that

717
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: you're competing with. It was just more of like a

718
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: hangout atmosphere. Um. And that was pretty much it. And

719
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I think that's probably, you know, for the people that

720
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: remember me, it's probably from Bachelor Paradise, or it's from

721
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: your T mobile commercial or tell us about this. I

722
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: was actually I got to hear because I didn't know

723
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: it was him. Okay, anyways, Dan, what's your relationship with

724
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: T Mobile? So? T Mobile? T Mobiles, I'll just tell

725
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: you they're amazing. So um that commercial was so no,

726
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: tell us about what. I didn't know you did a

727
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: commercial till I watched it on TV and saw, you know, like,

728
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I think that's Dan Cock. So so I get a

729
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: call and it was from my I have an agent here.

730
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: I do like the different commercials and stuff on the

731
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: side and uh, and she's like, hey, are you available?

732
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: And usually when that happens, it's like something bad, like

733
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: someone screwed up, someone didn't show. So then you got

734
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: to come in And I'm like what's it for? And

735
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: she's like it's T Mobile and I'm like local or

736
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: like worldwide. She's like I think worldwide. I'm like, yeah, free,

737
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: what's up? And so she's like you need to be

738
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: at this house in like two hours and I'm like okay.

739
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: So I literally drive down. I have no idea what's

740
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: going on. I show up to this neighborhood in Vegas

741
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: and there's a whole production it's like a Bachelor production

742
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: set up and and I pull up and I see

743
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: the main producer and I'm like, Hey, who didn't show

744
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, we've been waiting for you. And

745
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's And so I get into do hair makeup?

746
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm like, what's going on here? And

747
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: they were filming a commercial for internal sales meetings with

748
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: the CEO that whole lemonade. They were filming it with

749
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: him as my role. But then the marketing team was

750
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: there and I was like, this is brilliant. We should

751
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: run this as a as a commercial. Do we have

752
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: any actors that we can get here like but today?

753
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Because they had everything set up, so someone in production

754
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I know this guy Dan Dan Cox,

755
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: he may be available. They found me and got me

756
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: down there and it was like literally happened within two hours.

757
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: We filmed it in about an hour and then t

758
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: mobile just blew it up, like and then someone started

759
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: tweeting out like oh my god, Dan from The Bachelor,

760
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: and then it started running during the Bachelor and they

761
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: were just pumping it everywhere. So that was a fun commercial. Dun,

762
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: that's insane. IM. I texted you so I had saw it.

763
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: I was like, Dan, I think I just saw you

764
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: on TV, like and You're like, no, you did. I never.

765
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of why. I don't know why

766
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I got so excited and giddy bad I see my

767
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: friends on TV al times. It was Here's the crazy

768
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: thing about it is, you know the Bachelor Paradise. You know,

769
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: people recognize you basically until the next season, right, and

770
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: then it kind of you fade out a little bit.

771
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: Like I started getting people coming up to me being like,

772
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: you're the T mobile guy, and I'm like, oh my god,

773
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: this is crazy. That's so cool. It's something different. You

774
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: know who else has a commercial in repeat right now

775
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: for coals is Michael Garafola, also from right right making

776
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: the appearances? Does he really Yeah, he's like yeah with

777
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: the family, Like yeah, he's like the dad. He is

778
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: a dad winning games with us, and he honestly is

779
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people I ever met. He I

780
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: used to sit there and just drink bourbon and look

781
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: at all their relationships blasheming around us. He really is

782
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: a great products so I take care of a lot

783
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: of people from the show. Michael has obviously been a

784
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: customer for a while, and he you know how sarcastic

785
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: he is, so he requested He's like, I don't want

786
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: to I don't don't want to pay for the products,

787
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: but I'll pay for a picture of you. So every

788
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: time I send him a batch of products, I literally

789
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: print out like a headshot or something, sign it and

790
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: then say here, this is for you, Michael. I'm your

791
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: biggest fans. Oh that's amazing. I love that guy. He

792
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: is he's one of kind of Okay, so Dan, before

793
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: we say good body here, Um, you were starting a

794
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: podcast of your own correct? Yeah? So uh and actually

795
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: I mean inspiration from from you guys and a couple

796
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: other people in the Bachelor world. Um, I wanted to

797
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: create a podcast that was for you know, disruptors in

798
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: different industries. It's kind of become a big term where

799
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, you see different companies and different individuals really

800
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: disrupting certain spaces. Um. And so really it's about bringing

801
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: people on that have done some things and you know,

802
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: whether it's business, entertainment, sports, nutrition, that have really changed

803
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: the game. And so yeah, I really would love to

804
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: have you on. It's called Excuse the Disruption. But yeah,

805
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: when you come on, we'll talk about the coffee and

806
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the coffee. Do you figure do

807
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: you consider Ashley Night disruptors? I do, So Ashley would

808
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: ask me. She was like, I don't know if I'd

809
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: be right for your podcast because I don't know how

810
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: much has disrupted, and I'm like, I look up to

811
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: you because so many people have done this reality TV

812
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: scent and they talk a big game that they're gonna,

813
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, move to l A and they're gonna be

814
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: on all these shows and they're gonna make a career

815
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: out of it, and I think Ashley really has so

816
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: no but it really is, like I mean, it's a

817
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: testament to you and your hard work, not just you know,

818
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: talking and trying to leverage you know, what happened from

819
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: the show. So she's, you know, the one thing I

820
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: get with actually here recently, Um, I was telling her

821
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: that before the crush, the one thing I get with Ashley,

822
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: and this just happened. And maybe because they're starting to

823
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: like talk to me about Ashley because they kind of

824
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: relate us through the podcast to go, Ashley's like every girl,

825
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: Like she's our every girl. Like everything she says is

826
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: like I can relate with no matter where I'm at.

827
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: We've all had like our Ashley moments in life, and

828
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: then we've all had our Ashley moments where we've like

829
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 1: found love. That's cool part about this podcast is we've

830
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: known Ashley now for a year, where you know, you're

831
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: kind of down and out questioning if you're ever gonna

832
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: date you're going on? Remember remember the beginning, we were

833
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: setting like, um, setting you up like and then we

834
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: see you do winner games and kind of meet somebody

835
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: and then you know that doesn't work, but it's still

836
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: a great story and it still brings you to a place.

837
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: So we've kind of been able to ride the Ashley

838
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: wave with her through some seasons of life recently. Um,

839
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: and so I think people just loving it because she

840
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: is the every girl. Thanks then, thanks Dan, Dan, We

841
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on, man, Thank you for having me

842
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: keep dissing. Yeah, it's good to be here. We're looking

843
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: out over the strip right now. Uh. And if you

844
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: can kind of hear some background noises because we have

845
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: a ton of a ton of people up here listening

846
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and watching us do this live podcast. So hey, Daniel

847
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: talks man. Thanks to you guys for having by. Okay,

848
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: just to give the listeners a little background of Jake's

849
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: season of the Bachelor, here is um, word for word,

850
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: the argument between Jake and Vienna. Um, I'm gonna play

851
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Jake and Ashley. You'll play Vienna. I'm so mad at you.

852
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm so disgusted with you with me. You sold me

853
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: out to a magazine for payment and then flirted with

854
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: me all weekend. I didn't see you all weekend. Oh baby,

855
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: I have the text messages. Hey baby, come to the charity.

856
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: We'll get to your lying issues in a minute. Oh

857
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: my lying issues. Right. You are a fame whore, that's

858
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: what you are. I thought you were going to live

859
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: a normal life in Florida, but all of a sudden,

860
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: we're in l A and you're pursuing acting. At least

861
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I am pursuing something. My dog was sick with her.

862
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: I v S and her and the first thing that

863
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: you said was I'm so sorry your dog is so

864
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: spoiled that she can only maintain one relationship at a time.

865
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: You called my dad on Father's Day to see why

866
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking to you that weekend. Well, you're busy

867
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: having flings with other men. You are the biggest fake

868
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: liar I have ever met in my entire life. I

869
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: don't even know that guy he seems to know you.

870
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: And who is the single guy you had at the

871
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: apartment Saturday night? I had a gay guy over named Todd.

872
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: You are a liar? Is there a polygraph machine around here,

873
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: because you would fail it. You don't know me, I do.

874
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: Stop interrupting me. The thing is, I would never done

875
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: this to someone I love. You don't love me again,

876
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: I got interrupted. You are the famous person I've ever met,

877
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: Jake on the podcast. Sorry, we just had to do that.

878
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: It is our producer Amy's favorite scene of Bachelor history.

879
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: I watched this season. Do you watched Jake focus season?

880
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I didn't. Jake, You're the last Bachelor I didn't watch,

881
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: so sorry season. I know you sound you know what

882
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't know. I think you know. I

883
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: think kind of like kind of like you guys. You know,

884
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: I was just an airline pilot, um kind of happy,

885
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: go lucky, and I was just myself. I went on

886
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: there to find love. I watched it work for Jillian Harris.

887
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I really believed that I was going to walk out

888
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: of there um in love. And you know, ultimately I did.

889
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: You did. But it's something that most people do. I

890
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody knows this. I had both engagement

891
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: rings in my pocket at the time of the engagement.

892
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: You had a separate ring for each girl. Had both

893
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: want a different setting because I didn't know what I

894
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: wanted to do. Really, what I wanted to do was

895
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: continue to date both of them and see how it went.

896
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: But that is not acceptable in the real life. No

897
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: it's not. And that who was your final two? It

898
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: was Tinley in Vienna, and so I made my choice

899
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: based on which one I could stomach watching come back

900
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: as the Bachelor, and I said, I'm gonna have a

901
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: harder time watching Vienna not having seen that through, than

902
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: enjoying Tinley season next year, I didn't watch it, but

903
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: I do remember people were astonished that you didn't pick Tinley.

904
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: M Tinley and I Tinley is the type of type

905
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: of person. She's just beautiful inside and out, and I

906
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: just when I would think about and pray about it,

907
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: I just could not see a long future with her.

908
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Do you regret that? I mean, do you still believe

909
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: that you're confident that was right's choice? You know what

910
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: I went through the season. I know why I made

911
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: the choice was really thought through, it was prayed through,

912
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: and I would do it all over again. I probably

913
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: make the same choice was Vienna because I remember this.

914
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: Tinley obviously is has become very well known in Batchelor world,

915
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: just married, so we celebrated that with her a couple

916
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. But from what I understand, Vienna was

917
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: kind of like the dark horse, right, Like she wasn't

918
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: loved by America. Is that true? Or my Timley was

919
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Tilly's like America's sweetheart. Absolutely, and I think Vienna was

920
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: a little bit edgier, I like Edgie. My mom would

921
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: would have said, I know that we're both close to

922
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: our mom's she would have said, at the time, my

923
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: picker was broken. My parents loved Tilly, not to She's

924
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: a great girl. And I'll tell you you know, Vienna,

925
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: she she had she didn't have the greatest edit in

926
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: the world. She had a really hard time. You know.

927
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: I know she's backed away from the franchise. She doesn't

928
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: go to any reunions anything like that. And it's it's

929
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: kind of a shame because you know, it's a special

930
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: time in her life, and I don't know how special

931
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: it was for her. You know, we've all gotten older, matured,

932
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, back then, I think she was twenty three

933
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: or twenty four, We've we've all been there. Made in

934
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: your early wise are not the choices you make in

935
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: your thirties, you know, I think Jake, you you do

936
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: have one of the most polarizing seasons ever as the Bachelor.

937
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we still Jake. Pavelka's name is

938
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: known and it's been eight years. It's been a long time. Um.

939
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: I kind of want to walk back through the thought

940
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: process leading up to the last few weeks of year

941
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: season because it was a big deal. Uh, Tinley is

942
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: America's sweetheart. We love Tiley, she's happy now she's married.

943
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: But going back as the Bachelor, what was the most

944
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: difficult part for you, especially towards the end. I always

945
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: wanted it to be Gia. I thought you was just

946
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: an amazing person and I still do. Um. Yeah, she

947
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: passed away in Yeah, I still think back, you know

948
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: when she got out of that limousine and just like

949
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: she glided over to me. Um. Yeah, I's still just

950
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: here up thinking about I wanted it to be her

951
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: so bad, but she had so much hurt in her life.

952
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, she had dated guys that truly did not

953
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: treat her the way she should have been treated. Um.

954
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was disappointing when Ali left.

955
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: Had a great connection with Ali. Um, great things happened

956
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: to her. You know, I think now that she's married,

957
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: and she married second, that's awesome. Good for her. Um.

958
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: At the end, I wasn't ready to be engaged. I

959
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: had both rings, one for Tinley and one for Vin

960
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: in my pocket. The helicopters flew over, My heart was

961
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: in my throat. You know, I couldn't. I couldn't hear

962
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: my spirit talking to me. You wrm me, you hear

963
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: your spirit in your gut. It's kind of okay, this

964
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: is what you need to do. I could. I was

965
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: just was not getting any direction. The producers like, whatever

966
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: you want to do, it's fine with us. You just

967
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: need to probably decide whether you want to be engaged

968
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, it sounds like you just he didn't

969
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: feel forever or either one of them. No, I did not.

970
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: What did you make the decision then? If the helicopters

971
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: are flying over and you have both rings in your pocket,

972
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: when did you finally make the decision to to propose

973
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: to Vienna? Good question, that's a very good question. I

974
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: made the decision based on which one of the two

975
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: girls women, Which one of the two women I could

976
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: stomach watching as the bachelorette next season? And I was

977
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: at that moment I was gonna have a harder time

978
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: watching Vienna go back through the f or possibly go

979
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: back through the franchise than I would kindling. But when

980
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: was it? Like, as they were walking up to you,

981
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: I kind of knew that it was gonna gonna be Vienna. Okay,

982
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: you said that feeling, Yeah, but I kept waffling. I mean,

983
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: it's you know how it is. It's really really stressful

984
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: that that last those last few moments of the of

985
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: the filming. Definitely, So you picked out a ring, a

986
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: different ring for each girl, like depended on their personality

987
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: and style, No, I asked, um, so during the fantasy

988
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: days or the fantasy suites, you know, I asked each

989
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: one of each one of the girls women. I gotta

990
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: put saying that that's asked that Jia, Tinley, and Vienna,

991
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: what what kind of setting they wanted? And so I

992
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: kind of kept mental notes and I picked I picked

993
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: rings out for for Tinley, and you know, why not

994
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: just not propose? I thought about it. I thought about

995
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: it long and Harvon. That did not work out very

996
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: well for one of the previous bachelor's from Austin by

997
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: things like Brad Walmack because America travels on this big

998
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: journey with you. You know, when you're upset, they're upset.

999
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: When you're happy and you have a great date, It's

1000
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: like America has a great date and they expect the

1001
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: fairytale ending. That is definitely an expectation at the end

1002
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor, And I would venture to say, if

1003
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: America doesn't get some sort of you know, closure at

1004
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: the end of the show, it's like, wait a minute,

1005
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: you can't do that. The show hasn't ended yet. You

1006
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: come out, you come out and aged, and so I

1007
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: think it's it's that expectation of America. You know, it's

1008
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. You kind of feel it. But

1009
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: for me, I was I knew I wanted to take engagement.

1010
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: I could. I could definitely relate with anybody that was

1011
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: the Bachelorrette or Bachelor, knowing it those last few days

1012
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: that it would feel like I don't want to disappoint anybody.

1013
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: And at the same time, you're like, and I have

1014
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: some amazing people here around me, Like, so getting engaged

1015
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: one of these I would be lucky. That's kind of

1016
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: my thought, was like I'd be lucky to be able

1017
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: to spend life with these women. Um, okay, so you

1018
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: got engaged and we have to talk about it. You

1019
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: had one of the most epic breakups and Bachelor history.

1020
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 1: You and Vienna had a televised breakup. Um, people still

1021
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube. I mean, Jake walk us through?

1022
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: How does that happen? I think, just from for some clarity,

1023
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: how do you allow that to be on TV? How

1024
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: does it get on TV? And then does it still

1025
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: affect your life today? Was it the breakup or was

1026
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: it like some sort of Chris Harrison mediation on the

1027
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: verge of a break up? All very good questions. So

1028
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: the way that all came down, the relationship was not

1029
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: in a good place, and there were there was a

1030
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: lot of you know, after we became engaged, I got

1031
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: to know her. Um, we started we started planning a

1032
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: life together, and I could really once you get away

1033
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: from the show, you really start to get to know somebody.

1034
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: I always tells me, you know, you get to know

1035
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: a six cent of somebody on the show, and then

1036
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: there's that that you know whatever that you it's kind

1037
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: of kind of looming out that she's a great person. Um.

1038
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: The relationship wasn't doing so well and I got invited

1039
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: to do a guest starring role on Drop Dead Diva,

1040
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: which aired on Lifetime. I left on a Thursday and

1041
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: everything was fine. I mean everything was fine. It was

1042
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: I think Father's Day weekend, so flew to Atlanta and

1043
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: we shot all weekend, and then on Monday afternoon, kind

1044
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: of late, I get a call from my publicist and

1045
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: she says, hey, sit down, something's happened to Vienna. And

1046
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: I said, oh, my gosh, something she's been killing at

1047
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: a car accident or something like that. Uh. She said, Jake,

1048
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: Vienna has gone down to Star magazine and has sold

1049
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: your breakup story. Was like, what, We're not broken up?

1050
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: What do you I don't even know what you're talking about.

1051
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: So I hung up on her and called Vienna, and

1052
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: Vienna answers. She's like, hey, babe, what are you doing?

1053
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: And like, Vienna, what have you done? Long pause on

1054
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: the phone, and I said, look, if you don't want

1055
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: to be together, that's fine, not a problem, but don't

1056
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: do it like this, opening Pandora's box by putting this

1057
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: out in the media. And she said, Jake, it's done

1058
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: and hung up on me. The next thing I knew,

1059
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: ABC had me on an airplane flying all night long.

1060
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison was wrapping up the last episode of the

1061
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: first season of Bachelor Pad at about three in the morning.

1062
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: I landed about midnight. They sent a car to l

1063
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: a X at three, and I guess about three in

1064
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: the morning, we sat by the pool. I hadn't talked

1065
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: to Vienna. It was the first time I'd said I

1066
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: hadn't read the article, and we had just as well,

1067
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: like two fools sitting on national TV having our first

1068
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: conversation after I realized my relationship was over. I hadn't

1069
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: accepted that was over. I didn't even had time to

1070
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: get heartbroken. It hurt. Nasty article came out, you know,

1071
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you have to respond. The paparazzi reaction

1072
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: was probably even worse. I know, she couldn't leave her house.

1073
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: I definitely just kind of had to huddle up for

1074
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: about a week. Um, it was awful, awful for her,

1075
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: it was it was terrible for me. How did it

1076
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: affect your life, because that was something that you probably

1077
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: weren't excited about showing the world. How did it affect

1078
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: your life negatively or positively by having that on TV? Well,

1079
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: everybody has a break cup. Everybody has an argument, you know,

1080
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: things like that. We just unfortunately had, you know, our

1081
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: final breakup argument in front of America. You know that's

1082
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: that is definitely something I regret. You know, yeah, I

1083
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: look at it now, you know, if that's the if

1084
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: that's the worst breakup. But you know I ever have

1085
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: in my life, it's not that bad. You know, we

1086
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: just had a little argument in front of America. What

1087
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: it was was incredibly immature. Yeah. Did I mean we're

1088
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: talking earlier. Were you able to still fly afterwards as

1089
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: a pilot as a pilot, yeah, you've You've been a

1090
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: pilot your whole life. I know what you're I know

1091
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: what you're alluding to. It. It did alter the course

1092
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: of my career completely. I mean, that's the huge you

1093
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: just think about that. I mean, outside of any of

1094
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: the details, one thing on TV altered the course of

1095
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: your life really. Uh yeah, for about the next year

1096
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: of my life. You know, that's all people talked about was,

1097
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, Jake and Vienna's, you know, the worst fight

1098
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: they've ever seen. I tell you what. We were on

1099
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: the cover. God, this isn't something to brag about. We

1100
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: had more magazine covers and Kim Kardashian did that year

1101
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: because of that breakup. That's a lot finally that from

1102
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: Kim that granted in two thousand and nine that the

1103
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: Kardashians weren't as big of a deal, but they finally

1104
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: took us off off the covers of the magazines about

1105
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: that breakup was Mel Gibson and somebody else that call

1106
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: where he was screaming, yeah, okay, well to switch gears

1107
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. Then life took you to Vegas. Are

1108
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: you enjoying Vegas right now? Being out here because you

1109
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: called this home for a little bit. I did. I did. Yeah,

1110
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: I worked on the I worked on the hosted Chippendales

1111
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. That was really in a

1112
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: crazy experience. Kept all my clothes on. Really, I had

1113
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: a suit on the altime. That's a you've you seem

1114
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: to be pretty happy about that, like that was a

1115
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: good experience for you. It was, you know, um, one

1116
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: of the cool things that you know, being part of

1117
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: the brass or franchise you know, offers is you get

1118
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: to experience a lot of different things in life. I've

1119
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: never done anything theatrical and so that was kind of

1120
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: the check off right there. Again, to host it, you know,

1121
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: one of the one of the bigger shows out here

1122
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: in Vegas. You're now in real estate. Yeah, do commercials

1123
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: still fly airplanes? And that's the way to describe what

1124
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: I do. I help CFOs and CEOs of large companies

1125
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: understand and better manage their real estate. Going back to pilotry, aviation,

1126
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: give us a little tidbit of what goes on in

1127
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: the cockpit that we would never expect. Does what come

1128
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: like scare us a little bit between the bile high cockpit? No,

1129
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: that's not what I was referring to. Like, do you

1130
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: guys eat up there? Sleep? Sleep? And be honest, no,

1131
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: you don't sleep on a flying airplane. I think you know,

1132
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: I knew scariest moment in the air. Oh good question.

1133
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: Good thing. I'm jump on a flight in three hours. Yeah,

1134
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: me too. So my high school sweethearts years ago, I

1135
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: was still getting my pilot slices. Actually I was working

1136
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: on my instrument rating. My high school sweetheart asked me

1137
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: to take her best friends brother flying, and so I'm like, okay,

1138
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: well can we can do that? So I rent an airplane,

1139
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: we fly from Dallas down the Waco, have dinner down there,

1140
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: while we're at dinner, it gets really foggy. I completely

1141
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: fogged in. This sounds like a chef. K there's next day.

1142
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: He's got an audition for the Dallas side kick, you know,

1143
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 1: professional soccer audition to join the team. It's like, Jake,

1144
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: I have to get back and let's rent a car.

1145
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: We couldn't rent a car because I was too young.

1146
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't wouldn't qualify. Can't rent a car. But you

1147
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: can fly an airplane? So crazy, so um. He talked

1148
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: me into flying an airplane in instrument conditions and I

1149
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: had no experience doing that. We got we so I remember,

1150
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: we took off, we got into severe turbulence in instrument conditions.

1151
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: I literally turned white. I started at airplane. It was crazy.

1152
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: So that means when you can't see out of the window,

1153
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: like you're flying through a cloud, you have to completely

1154
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: rely on the airplane's instruments. I had my eye fr

1155
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: license for like two days. I've never been in actual

1156
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: like I don't know what we flew through. It was

1157
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: the only turn time in years of flying, I've ever

1158
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: been in severe turgule. Listen, it was with this guy,

1159
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: he said. He looked over and he said you were

1160
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: sheet white, so scary. That's absolutely great. Yeah. Well, I

1161
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: mean but for the most part, for all the fans

1162
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: out there listening, it was flying is very safe, right,

1163
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Not for myself. I'm not worried, but just let's let

1164
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: everybody know. Not max A really weirried sometimes about flying

1165
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: because because you're in a tube in the air kind

1166
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: of floating. I bet you know what, I bet I

1167
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: could fix that. Yeah. I've taken a lot of people

1168
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: flying that have a fear of it, lest they see

1169
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: how incredibly easy it is. Pilots don't really fly the airplane.

1170
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: We're more like lifeguards sitting at the side of How

1171
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: do the wings not pop off? They take them on? Okay, perfect, No,

1172
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: It's fascinating to me every time I'm on a plane,

1173
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm on a plane at least

1174
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: every three weeks, and it's just like I am miles

1175
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: in the sky right now? What in the world in

1176
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: What always fascinates me is how they invented the car

1177
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: in the late eighteen hundreds. In the early nineteen hundreds,

1178
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: we had planes. That's what. Okay, let's do a lightning

1179
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: round of questions before we think about a Jake on

1180
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: flying flying questions, Jake, how do birds not get hit

1181
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: in the sky like and take their plane? Ask solely

1182
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: that question. So that actually does happen. That's just what

1183
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: took his airplane now I know. But why doesn't happen

1184
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: more often? Um? Well, I mean it's sometimes it does,

1185
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't normally. I've inadvertently hit birds. You can't see him,

1186
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: especially small ones, but you know, like big ones, like

1187
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: like I think he hit a couple of geese flying by,

1188
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: and that will take an airplane out of the sky.

1189
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: Do you get so tired of sitting and can you

1190
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom in the cockpit? Well, you don't

1191
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: want to go to bathroom, go to the bathroom in

1192
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: the cockpit, you know what I mean? But you're allowed

1193
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: to get out of the cockpit. Um, yeah, you can't.

1194
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: How do the wings not break off when turbulence is

1195
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: happening in they're flopping up and down? You know what? Hey,

1196
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a fair question. Um So Boeing

1197
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: and Airbus they test those wings, they would it would

1198
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: have to get so bumpy. I'm trying to think those

1199
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: wings will flex well above the top of the airplane.

1200
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: You'd have to be an extreme turbulence to break one apart.

1201
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: They're just built to do. You can't imagine if my

1202
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: wing on my plane was above my airplane, I'll turbulent

1203
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: that the wings I would be so scary. I've never

1204
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: seen anything even close to it, really moving up and

1205
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: down and that that that's the extreme. If they to

1206
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: snap the wings, you have to bend the wings up

1207
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: almost nine degrees okay, last never even imagined a plane

1208
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: can be like a bird like that. Um flying etiquette.

1209
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: When it comes to people getting off the plane, is

1210
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: there an order in which people should follow? You know what,

1211
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: people are pretty calm getting off an airplane. No airport etiquette.

1212
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: Let me, I was going to write a book. Seriously,

1213
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: let's go back to this planet etiquet. Is there an

1214
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: order at which people should be getting off a plane

1215
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: as fast as freaking possible because the pilots are ready

1216
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: to go home? Yeah? But is it? Okay? Is it

1217
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: seat by seat? Row by row? Do they stand in

1218
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: a line in the middle? Do you wait to the

1219
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: person passes? Just? Is there any type of order in

1220
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: which people need to get off planes? Mr pilot? So

1221
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: I guess you just start with row number one, and

1222
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: it just kind of trickles. You would think, Yeah, you

1223
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: would think that you encounter normally people try to people

1224
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: climb over my seat. Oh wait, please regale us with

1225
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: the tail of your last flight. Yeah, I was sitting,

1226
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: uh in the middle seat. Somebody on the window seat

1227
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: decided once the plane had stopped and every we were taxiing,

1228
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: we had stopped. After the taxi, I guess we were

1229
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: at the gate. That little chime goes bing and he

1230
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: decides to climb over me to get Yes, literally scooted

1231
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: over me. Did you have a twenty Yeah, it felt

1232
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: like it. It was incredibly inappropriate and odd and I

1233
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: don't get why we as Americans just can't stand in lines. Hey, Jake,

1234
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming on the podcast. Yeah, thanks

1235
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: for talking. Thanks for sharing. I know a lot of

1236
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: this stuff isn't always easy and uh and and a

1237
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: lot of your memories as the bachelor, you know, are

1238
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: kind of related back to a breakup and and that's

1239
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of the case for a lot of us. But

1240
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: just know we appreciate you talking about so thanks man,

1241
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Thank you so much. Jake Pavelka

1242
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: joined our podcast and we appreciate him. That's that's that

1243
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: was an awesome segment. Appreciate. As we close out now

1244
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,120
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Speaker 1: to all the fans that came out to watch us

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Speaker 1: unveil the Bachelor slot Machine to day here in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome and a lot of really wheat people

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Speaker 1: who are big fans of our podcast. Um and and

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Speaker 1: they said, hey, we came over because we listened to

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Speaker 1: your podcast and heard you're gonna be in Vegas. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we told them to do that, I know, and they listen.

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Speaker 1: I know. I love that. It's really crazy how many

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Speaker 1: fans come up to me these days and say, not

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Speaker 1: only do they, you know, like me from the show,

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Speaker 1: but they like us from the podcast. That's always the

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Speaker 1: first thing they tell me these days. I think that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: It means a lot to me when people listen to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. UM, so thanks for listening. Thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: out today to support us. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: really great people down there that we got to say

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Speaker 1: hi to, and it's just it's super kind of you,

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Speaker 1: UM to go all come all the way the Vegas

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Speaker 1: to see Ashley and I. Hey, this is a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I admitted my crush on Ashual. I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. I think it's a huge deal. O

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Speaker 1: can't wait to tell everyone. Well we just did yes

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Speaker 1: with that, everybody. Thanks for joining the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've Been and I've Been. Ashley followed the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I our Radio or

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