1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie can Smith. I'm welcome to Steff 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: when ever told you objection of iHeart Radio, And welcome 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: to another sub sub sub sub segment, Fictional Women around 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: the World. I hash to say I deliberated for a 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: long time about who we were going to talk about 6 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: for this one. I wanted to do Storm from X Men. 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: But when I tell you that that should probably be 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: a whole episode, that should probably be Oh my gosh, 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: I was drowning in research, like I've already done half 10 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: the research, and I was like, no, I can't do 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: it as an episode. I loved that character as a kid, 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: and I really want to talk about her. We never 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: want to not talk about something that is a lot 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: more work. But it was just too much work for 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: me to get this done in a timely and respectful 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: manner to that character. So yeah, so then we need 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: to do one soon on her. I yes, I would 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: love to. I was fascinated by what I was reading, 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: but it was just like two in depth. I was 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: going to have to look into a lot of other stuff, 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: but I went with Monica Rambo and I am I 22 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: am focusing on the MCU, the Marvel Cinematic Universe, version. 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: I'll talk about her in the comics a little bit, 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: but I am focusing on that one because The Marvels 25 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: did just come out on streaming not currently a sponsor 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: on Disney Plus, and I texted you about it because 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: I've found it really interesting that and you can go 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: back and listen to our episode on Nya DaCosta who's 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: the director of that, for more on this. But I 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: found it really interesting how many people were acting like 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: they'd never heard of it before been in theaters, and 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: they were a lot of them liked it, And I 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: was like, uh huh, so that I just find that 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: very interesting. But I thought in honor of that, we 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: could kind of talk about this character, Monica Rambo, who 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: is one of the three main characters in that movie. 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: But that being said, there are going to be spoilers 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: to The Marvels and WandaVision. I would say, like, we're 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: not going to go to in depth, but they're like 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: huge spoilers, if that makes sense. Yeah, like just just 41 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: in general, the fact is a huge spoiler, right, Yeah, 42 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: So if you haven't seen it, maybe hold off on 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: this one until you have, or if you don't care, 44 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: come along for the ride. You know, yeah, so standard 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: Marvel disclaimer. We are, as I said, focusing mainly on 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the MCU version here. A lot of these things are 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: going through retcoms, which means they go back and they 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of change the history of a character. I read 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: a very interesting article about that recently, about whether that 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: is a good or bad thing that is happening so much. 51 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: But today we are talking about Captain Monica Rambo, who's 52 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: a PhD, played in the MCU by Tiana Paris and 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: Ta Kira Acbar as an adult. This character was first 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: introduced in the comics in nineteen eighty two. First created 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: by Roger Stern and Joan Romita Junior, this character was 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: originally designed to look like actress and actress star Pam Greer, 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: but the design changed along the line. John Reminia Junior said, 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: I just took some reference on Pam Greer because I 59 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: always loved her, and at the last moment somebody said that, well, 60 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: we need to use this woman here because they thought 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: maybe Pam Greer wasn't as good looking as the model 62 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: they found. It was fine because by the time she 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: got done by other artists, it ended up looking like 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: the generic black character. Anyway, so this was an interesting Yeah, 65 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: this was a really interesting back and forth that you 66 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: can read about this character. But I thought that was 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: a very telling thing. It was like Bam Greer and 68 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: they were like, okay, we'll just go back and back 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: and forth. She this character got her first solo comic 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two called Photon But okay, in the 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: MCU she's the daughter of Maria Rambo. Also, this first 72 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: time I put together that their last name sounds like Rambo, 73 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: and I like the Sylvester Saloon. You didn't, you, Samantha, 74 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. I was just like, Rambo sounds so beautiful. Anyway, Okay, 75 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: it was. Her mother was a pilot and best friend 76 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: of Carol Danvers, who was later Captain Marvel, and she 77 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: called Monica, called her aunt Carol, Auntie Carol. Carol calls 78 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: her Lieutenant Trouble. When reports of danvers death reach Monica, 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: Monica refuses to believe them. Six years later, thanks to 80 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: space time continuum stuff, Carol shows up and she's thrilled 81 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to learn Monica's thrilled to learn that Carol has powers, 82 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: and Monica it kind of helps convince her mom to 83 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: join up with Carol to protect refugees of the Scroll 84 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: from the creed, and I don't really have time to 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: go into the whole thing. You can watch Captain Marvel, 86 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: or you can listen to different podcasts, but you know, 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Monica helps Carol choose the colors 88 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: for her superhero outfit. Danvers goes to space to keep 89 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: the peace. Monica's mam Maria founds this thing called SWORGE, 90 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: which stands for a Sentient Weapon Observation and Response Division, 91 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: which is a division that Monica later joined. As an adult, 92 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: she went into astronaut training and was the subject of 93 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: stories in newspapers. And then during the Snap, which is 94 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: when Banos snapped and then half of the population of 95 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: the entire universe just faded from existence became ashes, Monica 96 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: was snapped out while accompanying her mom to her cancer treatments, 97 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and she, along with all the others that disappeared and 98 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: the Snap, returned five years later, only to find that 99 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: her mother had died of cancer while she had been gone. 100 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: As she was waiting through her grief, she was put 101 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: on assignment for the Westview Crisis, which is what happened 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: in Wanda Vision. That was that whole thing. Basically, Wanda 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: Maxima Off aka Scarlet Witch, and you can see the 104 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: episode we did on her with Joey had created a 105 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: sort of sitcom bubble to shield herself and the pain 106 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: of all that she had lost, including vision, her love, Vision, 107 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: and her two kids. But it also involved subjugating the 108 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: residence of Westview, and it turned out she had been 109 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: manipulated by someone named Agatha who's getting her own show, 110 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: who wanted her Wild Magic wanted Scarlet, which is wild Magic. 111 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Monica crosses the ever growing Hex'es barriers several times to 112 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: try to reach Wanda and save the residence, and it 113 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: causes her cells to be rewritten and it grants her 114 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: superpowered abilities, so she is able to eventually reach Wanda 115 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: and connect with her over their grief. Here's a quote. 116 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I lost the person closest to me too. The worst 117 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: thing I can think of has already happened to me, 118 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: and I can't change it, I can't undo it. I 119 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: can't control this pain anymore, and I don't think I 120 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: want to, because it's my truth. And she was very 121 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: determined to help Wanda. She was very empathetic with her. 122 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: She was the one that was always fighting, like, you know, 123 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: something else is going on here. We shouldn't just like 124 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: kill her. Monica is then recruited by a scroll instructed 125 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: by Nick Fury to join Saber Strategic Aerospace, Biophysics and 126 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Exilinguistic Response. A couple of years later, she is tapped 127 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: to investigate the Universal Neural Teleportation Network, and doing so, 128 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: her powers are entangled with that of Captain Marvel slash 129 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Carrol Danvers and Kamalakan Miss Marvel. The entanglement means that 130 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: whenever one of them uses their powers, they swap powers. 131 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Monica and Carol finally talk about why Carol left and 132 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: why I hurt Monica about Maria's death, and they start 133 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: to heal their relationship. A lot of stuff happens and 134 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: in order to mend to potentially really bad reality destroying 135 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: rupturing jump point. And I'm aware that for some of 136 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: you this is all like what are you saying? It 137 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: makes sense if you watch it, you know, maybe don't 138 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: think that too hard, but it makes sense. But Monica 139 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: crosses to the other side of the jump point and 140 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: closes it, and she wakes up in an alternate reality 141 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: where her mom is alive and it's X Men. That's 142 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: the spoiler. That's the spoiler. Yeah, the X Men universe. 143 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: So we've talked about it before. I really liked the movie. 144 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: I liked that they had to learn to depend on 145 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: each other and work in tandem when their powers were switching. 146 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: I really liked that. I thought they were all pretty 147 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: well developed in different characters, and I liked that when 148 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: it comes to Monica specifically, there was a running joke 149 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: in the movie and in general in the comics about 150 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: her superhero name because she's gone by Spectrum, Pulsar, fots 151 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: On and Captain Marvel. So Kamala Khan was always trying 152 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: to like, maybe you should be this or what about this, 153 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: and Monica's like, no, I'm not so her powers. I 154 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: do love when Carol gets back and she's like, when 155 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: did you get powers? And what's going on here? And 156 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Monica says, I walked through the radiation shielding barrier of 157 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: a witches hex and now I can manipulate and see 158 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: all wavelengths of the electromagnetic spectrum. Okay, yes, and we 159 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: are talking about the MCU right now. But just to note, 160 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: in the comics, she was the first female Captain Marvel 161 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and the first black woman to join the Avengers officially, 162 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: and she has appeared on the lot of list. She's 163 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: very well liked by critics and fans. From Nick Hemming 164 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,119 Speaker 1: at Luper, here's a quote. Few understand just how monumental 165 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: her contributions to the Marvel universe truly are, nor how 166 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: massive her character potential remains decades after her debut as 167 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: a character. Her impressive energy manipulating powers make her an 168 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: alpha level threat, while her strong leadership and sarcastic wit 169 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: make her a fan favorite. This is the untold truth 170 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: of Marvel's all too often forgotten Avenger Monica Rambo. So yeah, 171 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: interested to see what happens next with her? Yeah, and 172 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe we'll come back and do more on this whole thing, 173 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: because we do have a lot of thoughts. But yeah, 174 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: that's what I have to say for now. Thank you 175 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: for sharing. I'm still hold on to the whole Rambo 176 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: that you didn't know. I did not know it. I 177 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't put that together. I think I 178 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: was thinking of my French brain like Bo means beautiful. Whatever. 179 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: These comic book episodes always stress me out, but they're fun. 180 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: But it's just like so much stuff to navigate through. 181 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: But if I've forgotten anything or if I get anything wrong, 182 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: please let me know. And if you have any suggestions 183 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: for upcoming episodes, you can email us at Steph at 184 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: mediamomstuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can find us on 185 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: Twitter at mom step podcast or on Instagram and TikTok 186 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: at stuff I've Never Told You. 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