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Speaker 1: Shore, it's time nice and low and low. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the naughty but nice Show. I'm from Shooter and it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: which means I dear friend Mark Glooper joins us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Loopy are there, Loopy? Lewis here Hereopy? Oh? Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your kind not. I've been feeling sick a week

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Speaker 1: on Monday. It's a miracle that I got a show

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Speaker 1: at mark Us croaking away. So if you've not listened

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Speaker 1: to Monday's show, don't it sounds awful? Mark? My voice

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Speaker 1: I sound like I've been up all night drinking Scancheons,

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Speaker 1: feeling much better. I know I still sound a little

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Speaker 1: bit croaky, But it's just a cold, Isn't it awful

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Speaker 2: But the rescue voice is kind of nice.

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Speaker 1: Don't you be getting any ideas? Let me tell you that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show where time is in My friends,

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Speaker 1: it is tea time. So Malcolm Jamal Warner died a hero,

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Speaker 1: let me say it. His daughter, eight years old, was

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Speaker 1: pulled from the rip current as the Cosby star drowned

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Speaker 1: and the rescuer around them carried on. So it is

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Speaker 1: so heartbreaking clear we're getting many, many more, many many

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Speaker 1: more details. Malcolm Jamal Warner died while trying to rescue

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Speaker 1: his daughter. Let's make that very very clear. It is

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Speaker 1: a heartbreaking end to what was meant to be a

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Speaker 1: family vacation. Obviously, Warner, who was fifty four years old,

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Speaker 1: the Lovabler, theo Huxtabuller. He was swimming with his eight

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Speaker 1: It was clear that there were struggling, Mark, and now

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Speaker 1: we know some local surfers they saw them struggling. The

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Speaker 1: local surfers in Costa Rico knew this was quite a

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Speaker 1: very strong, so they immediately jumped in to help. One

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Speaker 1: The other surfer tried to get Warner. Eventually they did,

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Speaker 1: but by the time they saved him, and they worked

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Speaker 1: actor could not be revived. Mark. This is another layer

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Speaker 1: to this awful, awful tragedy. But he was swimming with

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Speaker 1: his daughter. The two of them were in the ocean together.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to choose to believe Mark that he saved

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Speaker 1: his daughter rather than himself. This is just a heartbreaking story.

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Speaker 2: It's horrific, and you know, the family will never be

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Speaker 2: the same, and his core driughter. She's only eight years

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Speaker 2: old to see her father, you know, loss life and

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Speaker 2: what you said, this family vacation. It's just it's heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I will say he is Now that

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Speaker 2: The outpouring support for him is pretty incredible. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just too much.

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Speaker 1: It's too much. You can't win this. It is not

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Speaker 1: It was not a lie. We just never ever showed it.

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Speaker 1: the Cosby Show after the trial, after all the allegations

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Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right. You know, he would always

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Speaker 1: With the world. Yeah, I hope somebody sets up a

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Speaker 1: and just to show you how private Warner Warner was.

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Speaker 2: And it's just said that it was cut short.

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Speaker 1: So so sad. There's no poll today. We don't do

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Speaker 1: our next story. Mark Jennifer Lopez is just getting started. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a birthday today. Jennifer turns fifty six.

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Speaker 1: I think today, Happy birthday, Jenny. If you're listening. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 2: a sort of spill that Jennifer loves. The attention, headlines,

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Speaker 1: Wow. I love this. It is who Jennifer is. Anybody

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Speaker 1: This is who she is. I've spent time with her.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't go home and put on sweatpants. She is Jlo.

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Speaker 1: a really inspiring way. To see somebody who's in there

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Speaker 1: by accident. When I worked with Jennifer, she worked out.

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Speaker 1: She worked harder than anybody I've ever met. Yes, she's lucky,

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Speaker 1: Oh ma oh, she was like a machine. I barely

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a machine, and not for ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't take a day off. She really care for

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Speaker 1: what she eats. She's careful what she drinks. And that's

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Speaker 2: Well, you know your point, Rob. I interviewed her trainer

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the naughty but nice arm and Shoot

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Speaker 1: Oh it's time for the noisiest out of the day.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so brilliant. Yesterday we were talking all about

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