1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Was Wu Tang Forever a reference to Batman Forever? Did 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: I come out at the same time. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Batman Forever was maybe maybe two years before? Let's see, yeah, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: ninety five because Wu Tang Forever was? Was that ninety 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: six or ninety five? 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Of all the ones to choose? Why not Wu Tang returns? 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: What about Wu and Tang? 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Or Wu Tang and Robin? Batman and Wu Tang just 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: heavily features Chris what's his name? 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: Brandley, Handsome, Chris o'donnald, Oh my God, Wu Tang and 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Robin Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three, seventy nine. 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Episode five of Hell. He's like guys. It's a production 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: of iHeartRadio. 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: It's podcast as we take Deep dab and do American 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Share counseling. 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: It's It's Ben. 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: It's Friday, March fourteenth, twenty twenty five. 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: Fucking Pie Day, My day, get your pies out. Let's 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: respect five. 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Because that's when I brainstorm on Friday exactly, and also 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: National Write Down Your Story Day, National Children's Craft Day, 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Shout out crafts I have y'all. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: If y'all want to buy some of the geist child's 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Fine daycare art pieces, I will be some in my eBay. 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: They have been assessed by an art sort of appraiser 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: like appraiser person and they're starting at the lo low 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: price of a dollar. So you know, I will do bad. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: I will hey you to come take it away. It 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: comes in thick and fast, the arts and crafts from daycare. Yeah, anyway, 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: also national learn about butterflies. 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Day espart to pick the amount of homework is that 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: they just every smiley face. I feel like, well that 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: one't got a smiley face. I should hang on to that. 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: And it's just taken over life. 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Did your mom hang onto all your crimes? 36 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: We moved every couple of years. She was just like 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: she was. Yeah, she was purging. She was every We 38 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: used to it to warm up the flu before we fire. Yeah, 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: that's what I think. 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Your work. 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: All right, Happy pie day to everybody. 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Make yourself a little pie. You know I have some pot. 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: Treat yourself for a little pot or a pizza pie. 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: My name is Jack O'Brien ak in the tallow, in 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: the Taalo, in the Tallowtel Lalo, in the Tallowta la Lallo. 47 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: We're frying in Tallo. 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: Now that one courtesy of your current do that on television, 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: Your current do. 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: It in honor of our new what's our case. 51 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: Title, vaccine Guy, vaccine, our new vaccine Health and Human. 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: Services Health. 53 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: Human Services, who has discovered the key to longevity is 54 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: going back to frying French fries in beef tallow, something 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: that we stopped doing in the eighties because it was 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: killing killing people. Yeah yeah, yeah, not that like shit 57 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: about anything back then. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, he's worried 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: about the seed oils. I bet they're bad, but so 59 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: is beef tallow. Anyways, thank you, you current do that 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: on television, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: by my co host, It's mister Miles Gret. 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: Let me actually take that AKA one step further. 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 4: Frying up some food, need a fat to make the 64 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: flavor good, oil lizable, need. 65 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: Something to stop myever And I'm going to the chorus. 66 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: Ooh mommy, deep in ardoca collapsing, frying potatos, brown collapse. 67 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: From the clockage, it was all worth, all fright with 68 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: the telon now. Okay, now that was Halsey on salad, 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: because your current do that on television is like I 70 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: got the chorus somebody hit me with the verse that's 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: called an ali you and I had to throw it down. 72 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: So thank you to the both of you on the discord. 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: And then our guest will be doing the ooh of 74 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: this get them pipe swarm. Miles. 75 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: We are thrilled, blessed to be joined in our third 76 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: seat by McClean, producer, a co founder of The Venue 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: caveat NYC and host of Cramped, a podcast that exposes 78 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: the medical worlds, biases, and blind spots when it comes 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: to women's health. Please welcome them, Kate Helen down there. 80 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a deep cut. 81 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. 82 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's Ben Folds five. Oh he's a quirky 83 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 5: girl in high school. 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, yeah, I think. God, it's a good 85 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: litmus test to know were you in band or theater? Both? 86 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 87 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Ship? Okay, damn, Kate, I. 88 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 5: Was an overachieving girl. Hell yeah, I played trumpet very badly. 89 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: And I played trumpet too. No way, Oh my god, 90 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: say very badly. 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: You know. 92 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: I'm sure trumpet my name. Look, I'm named after Miles Davis. 93 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: There's no way I could have played that trumpet badly. Yeah, 94 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: I was on that ship since eight years old. 95 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have to live up to that. I'm glad 96 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: that pressure was not on me because I was using 97 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 5: my dad's old trumpet that was bent, and so the 98 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 5: entire rural in high school band had to tune to me. 99 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 100 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 5: And then I was bad, like do you think that 101 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: would make me good at it? 102 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: No? 103 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 7: No, no, no no. 104 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad that they were accommodating. 105 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I guess super producer Justin Connor, also a trumpet player, who. 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: I left out, not at all. 107 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: I was named after Jack Sikma, an average NBA basketball player, 108 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: and I was an average basketball player, and that's awesome. 109 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: So I was named after Kate Hepburn, as my parents 110 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 5: told me. And years later I was like, you mean 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 5: Catherine and they were like, my name is just Kate. 112 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 5: I don't have I'm not a Katherine or Kate Lenar. 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: They called her Kate Hepburn back then. 114 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 5: I guess my parents were I don't know if anyone 115 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: else was Kate's friend Kate. 116 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, oh, you're named after Kate 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: Hepburn obviously Kate. 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: Yes, right, Kate's wonderful. Well, Kate, it's wonderful to have 119 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: you here. Yes, we're going to get to know you 120 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going 121 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: to tell the listeners a couple of things we might 122 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: be talking about a little bit later on in the 123 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: news section. We're going to just talk about the continuing 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: attempt by the right to explain what's going on with 125 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: this economy. This people seem to be feeling badly about 126 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: how things are going economically. How do we spin this 127 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: The vibes are bad. How do we spin this into 128 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: actually we meant to do that? 129 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: How do we spin it into. 130 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: The trip into a light jog to pretend like you 131 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: meant to trip and start jogging. Yeah, like that, that's 132 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: what they're doing right now. So we'll look at some 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: clips from around the right wing hemisphere, all of that 134 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: plenty more. But first, Kate, we do like to ask 135 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: our guests, Helen Downey, what is something for your search 136 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: history that's revealing about who you are. 137 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 5: I didn't have to go far to find one that 138 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 5: was very revealing on a number of levels. I recently 139 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 5: searched dropping tampon study experiment. I do a lot of 140 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 5: research for my podcast and in my life in general, 141 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: but I am not organized about like I'll read a 142 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: study and be like cool and then not save it. 143 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: In the old brain, but not in the old like yeah, 144 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: like research journal, and. 145 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: Then yep, I do not put the link to it anywhere. 146 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: I just go like cool, I absorb the information. I'll 147 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 5: definitely know where it came from forever. 148 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep. 149 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: And then when I'm writing an episode and I like 150 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 5: have to immediately have it on hand or I'm going 151 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 5: to lose all the thoughts in my head, I just 152 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 5: frantically google until I find it. 153 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think that's good. I think you're doing 154 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: it right actually, because if you took down everything, like 155 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: when I've tried to like do research and I'm like 156 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: trying to be meticulous about like taking down every like 157 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: source and everything, then I like lose track of what's 158 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: actually interesting, Whereas like the if I'm just not if 159 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm just like going through and like reading as much 160 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: as I can, and then the stuff that sticks sticks 161 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: and the stuff that's not interesting like falls out of 162 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: my head, then like that that actually seems to be 163 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: a better way of like finding what works for me 164 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: at least, you know what I mean. 165 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that works when you're looking up like articles. Yeah, 166 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 5: but the thing with research studies and like clinical studies 167 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 5: is they're never called they're never titled the things that 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: make sense for what they contained. 169 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 170 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. 171 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 5: The thing I remembered about this study was that it 172 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 5: was an experiment where they had two They had a 173 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 5: participant who would come into the room. There would be 174 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 5: another person in like the way the way what they 175 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 5: thought was the waiting room, and it would be a 176 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 5: woman and she would have a purse, and so the 177 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: person who was actually being tested in the experiment thought 178 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 5: this was another participant, and this woman would drop something 179 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 5: out of her purse. It would either be a tampon 180 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 5: or a hairclip, and like drop it enough that the 181 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: other person definitely saw it. And then later the people 182 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: running the study would ask that the study participant a 183 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 5: bunch of questions like, hey, that person you were with, 184 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 5: Like what do you think of her? Like do you 185 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: think she's capable? Do you think she is like would 186 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: you hire her for a job, And had them like 187 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 5: rate the person, And then they also had them choose 188 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 5: a seat next to the person. After they came back 189 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: from taking the test, they could choose to sit in 190 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 5: a number of chairs that was either like closer to 191 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: the person or further away. And in the experiments where 192 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: the woman dropped a tampon, the study participant rated her 193 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: lower on like wow, capability and higher ability and all 194 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 5: these things, and sat further away from her. So, like, 195 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: what would you put in a search bar to like 196 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 5: find this experiment? 197 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Damn, yeah right, hairclip dropping exactly. 198 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: I did tampon dropping study experiment and that didn't work, 199 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 5: and it took me so long to find the actual study. 200 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 5: The actual study is called Feminine Protection the Effects of 201 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 5: Menstruation on Attitudes towards Women, which is like, yes, that's 202 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: just you could name it better, right, yeah. 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: Help us too. So it's also accessible to people who 204 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: like because that what you've just shared with us is 205 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: the really interesting point of this. And while all of 206 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: the data has its own use for people who are 207 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: like clinicians and researchers, for the fucking dummies out here, 208 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: just they're like, yo, what, okay, thank you for telling 209 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: me about that. But yeah, right, I get it. I 210 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: wonder if I'm sure there's these sort of titles help 211 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe get better grants or something, because 212 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: I guess if are they people going to fund the thing? 213 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: It's like tampon drop test, Like it's a social YouTube video, 214 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: social prank or something. 215 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 5: But they don't even have like the word stigma in 216 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: it or like shame or anything like that. 217 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: It's just like clinical. 218 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like what how does it affect the attitudes? 219 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: They're trying to It's like click baity. They don't want 221 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: to tell you how it affects the attitude. 222 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: They don't want to give it away. 223 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: That would be funny to like have people who work 224 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: at major scientific and medical journals, like work with editors 225 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: from BuzzFeed to like right best clickbait titles for their studies. 226 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, just get rid of the whole middle class of 227 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 5: people who write articles when studies come out. 228 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, yeah, exact down more cut out the middleman. Yeah, 229 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: but like, where will my job be when I find 230 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: out about what the study reveals? Like will it be 231 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: I mean you no, on the ground will be wide open? 232 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah right, you will be stunned when you realize what 233 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: people think. You know, could we talk about like somebody 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: who read the study and then started crying? Could that 235 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: maybe be something that we do in the time. Yes, 236 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: I love that. 237 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 5: This just sounds like a job that you're making for yourself. 238 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: I know, it does sound like that. Used to be 239 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: a big part of my job was writing headlines. 240 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: He's regressing, Kate, what is something that you think is underrated? 241 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: The TV television's bones, TV's bones. 243 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: Did Why did bones just come up? Because you're saying 244 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: how Trump would probably actually hire people from TV shows 245 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: to like help him with efforts. He's like, I need bones, 246 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: get me bones from the fictional characters he has tried 247 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: to hire and had to be told like that we can't. 248 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: We can't hire fucking but doctor is a doctor, right, 249 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: well I mean yeah technically, yeah, yeah he is. Well, 250 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: then then get me bones. Wait, so Bones, that's David 251 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: Bouranis and Emily des Emily Channel yeah. 252 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 5: Channel, yeah exactly. And it's like fifteen seasons, probably twelve 253 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: or something, but it's there's a lot of seasons. It's 254 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: a procedural, so many bones and they just solve murders 255 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: and like hang out at the fictionalized version of the 256 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Smithsonian Institute and it's like it's so great. It's like, 257 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: I don't I don't like sbu because it like makes 258 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: me anxious, Like I like it, and then if I 259 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: watch it too much, I'll like feel horrible. 260 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: And you're buying like extra locks for your doors and 261 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and. 262 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: Bones is like it gives you the satisfaction and the 263 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: comfort of a procedural. But it's just like smart people 264 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: solving problems and and murders and like doing science, and 265 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 5: it's like it's very comforting. 266 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: Is it all cold cases? 267 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 6: Is that? 268 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: Why is it okay? 269 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: It's when they find it starts out very like because 270 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 5: they work with bones, like bodies that don't have flesh 271 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: on them anymore, and so it starts out with mostly like, oh, 272 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: we found this skeleton like in an abandoned house and 273 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 5: it's been there for years, and like there's no way 274 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: we could find out who this person was or what 275 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: happened to them. And then Bones is like I know, 276 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: and figures out what happened to them and who they are, 277 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: and like they solve the murder. And David Borrianis is 278 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: the FBI agent that like works with her and her team. 279 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: Does Bones have superpower? 280 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: Just very well? 281 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: She's I was just smart, probably, but she doesn't like 282 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: have the thing where she like touches Bone and then. 283 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: In front of No, No, No, but one of my favorite, 284 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: one of my favorite parts of Bones because it was 285 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: like spanning, you know, twelves from the early two thousands 286 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: like through the mid twenty tens, and it was a 287 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: really interesting time for network TV shows because they were 288 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: doing they were doing crazy shit, like they were doing 289 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: cross promo episodes for other I forget when network. It 290 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 5: was on maybe NBC or CBS, but they were doing 291 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 5: cross promo. So they have they they have episodes with 292 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: like do you remember the show The Finder? 293 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I remember that it was a show. 294 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, But that's what that's like what you're talking about, 295 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: where this guy has the superpower he like he like 296 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 5: was in Afghanistan and got shot and then now has 297 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: a superpower where he can find things and they do 298 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 5: cross over yeah like anything. 299 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, tragic. He was like he was blown up in 300 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Iraq or something and yeh superpowers. 301 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's literally a super like it's not like, oh, 302 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: he's just like a good detective and can like kind 303 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: of it's like something unexplainable is happening in his brain 304 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 5: because he got blown up, and so it's like to 305 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: cross that over with Bones, which is a TV show 306 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: about like a hyper rational person running like really smart 307 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 5: and problem solving, and then they're just like, no, he 308 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: just has the finder power and yeah, finding. 309 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: Out like Diehard takes place in the Harry Potter universe. 310 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: What what is that? 311 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 5: And they also do like like what's it called when 312 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: they do like basically car commercials inside the show where 313 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 5: there'll be a scene set in like in the car 314 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: as they're driving, and in the middle of the conversation, 315 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: Bones will just be like, oh uh, this Prius can 316 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 5: park it, so like isn't that cool? 317 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Bones also naming these shows. This one is 318 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: about Bones, so has Bones and then he finds stuff, 319 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: so he's the finder like focus. 320 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: The mass genius. 321 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: How do we how do we like boil it down 322 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: to the most basic, like the most bas The next 323 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: one will be numbers, Yeah, you mean math numbers, actually numbies. 324 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 5: It's also that they named the show Bones, and it's 325 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 5: hard to talk about because like, Okay, you asked me 326 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 5: what's underrated? I can't say Bones, because then you have 327 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: to be like the show on You have to say 328 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 5: television's bones, TV's bones. 329 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: You mean scrats? No, No, the television program known as 330 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: Bones that ran from two thousand and five to twenty 331 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: seventeen starring David Boriannis and Emily da Chanel. 332 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: That, oh, it's not a good name in terms of 333 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: like being able to talk about it. 334 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: Was she called bones? Or did I just add that 335 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: that's like her nickname? 336 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 5: Okay, David calls her name, calls her bones. 337 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to be called Bones. That's a cool name. 338 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: That's a good name. 339 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: Good name. 340 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: And for numbers, Like, I'm a little bit confused because yes, 341 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: it says numbers, but it says it in words. 342 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: How do we Oh, we turned the E into it? Three? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 343 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: that's how you do it. 344 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: Numb three rs numb thirs O, Kate, what's something you 345 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: thinks overrated? 346 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm gonna get haters for this, but 347 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: I think seeing a movie in theaters is overrated. 348 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: Wow, and now the show is over? Thank you? 349 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Ye? 350 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: Like I think it's important. I think people should do it, 351 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: like that should exist. I just don't like it very 352 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: much to be on my couch. 353 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: Were you always like anti theater? Like and then the 354 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: with the everything coming on stream, You're like, okay, thank 355 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: you now I'm winning or you just know I was together. 356 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, yeah, I prefer couch. Yeah. 357 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: I think it was working like co founding and being inside. 358 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 5: I had a basement theater like fourteen hours a day. 359 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: I like, what I want to do for fun is 360 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 5: not go be in another dark room. Right, and then 361 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: the pandemic and everything coming on streaming, Like when you 362 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 5: when you had to go to a movie theater and 363 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: that was the only way you could like see a 364 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 5: new movie, and you would make it a big thing 365 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 5: and go with friends like that was great. I liked that, 366 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: But now that you have the option, I'm like, why 367 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: would I do that? I want to be at home 368 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: on my couch with my snacks and not pay a 369 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: bunch of money for Do you do people. 370 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: Come over watch movie or you just yeah, that's yeah, 371 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: it's nice. That's like a yeah, I do think I 372 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: was underrating movie nights at home, Like for for a while, 373 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: movie nights at home, make your own popcorn, like you 374 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: know that that. 375 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: Can be, but I haven't done. We need to do 376 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: the thing where people I haven't done the thing where 377 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: people come over to watch a movie since like the 378 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: days when I was getting screeners all the time, and 379 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: that was like you'll dig upo blah blah blah. I 380 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: am legend we could watch that shit right now or whatever. 381 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: But I do miss that. Actually, like that aspect of 382 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: it I think would be fun rather than like, oh, 383 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm at home, I can watch this movie that's in 384 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: the theater. Make it a thing to get together and 385 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 2: we can. 386 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 5: I also during the pandemic, we would do because when 387 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: we were seeing movies and theaters all the time, there 388 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 5: would be certain people I would go with to see 389 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 5: certain movies, like there were a couple of friends I 390 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: always went to see the like King Kong and Godzilla movies, 391 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 5: the new ones. Yeah, yeah, And so one of those 392 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 5: came out in like twenty twenty one and we did 393 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: it over like FaceTime. We streamed it together over FaceTime. 394 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 5: And then we also, like my husband and I have 395 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: a National Theater membership, like where you can they have 396 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 5: like recorded from the National Theater in London. They have 397 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: recorded shows like Shakespeare's shows like Classic Theater and you 398 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: that you could just like watch it like it's a movie. 399 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: And so having people over to do that is really 400 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: fun too because it's a little culturey, but you're still 401 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 5: home on your couch and you don't have to like 402 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 5: get dressed up and go out. You could just like 403 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 5: watch a Shakespeare thing and then pause it and be like, 404 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 5: what I have to look at it? 405 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: Can we put the subtitles on? Actually, this isn't helping, right? 406 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly did he propose to her? Or is he 407 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: going to murder her? Right now? 408 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 5: I know it's a dick joke, but how is it addiction? 409 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 410 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Right? 411 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: Man? 412 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: That actors seemed to really enjoy delivering that. I just 413 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: don't know what it meant. 414 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: That's more. That's so much more fun with friends when 415 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 5: you're allowed to talk, right man. 416 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, when I'm at a Shakespeare's show, I'm always laughing 417 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: at the wrong party. 418 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: One Hamlet to be or not to be? I think 419 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: it's funny. I think it's a funny question. Hey, y'all 420 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: down to see Macbeth right now? Don't fucking say that this. 421 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: By the way, Hamlet would have been called skull Guy 422 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: if it was on television, gold Talker. That was just 423 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: ghost writer. 424 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break and we will 425 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: be right back. And we're back, and. 426 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Kate, before we get into the news, I did just 427 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: want to kind of talk to you about your show Cramped, 428 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: which you know you focus on various ways the medical 429 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: world is biased and against fully understanding women's health, like 430 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: almost like willful blind spots ye. 431 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 7: Scattered, almost as if which I, as my spouse is 432 00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 7: a physician, and I've like had doctor's appointments with her 433 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 7: where the doctor will explain things to me a fucking. 434 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: Idiot podcaster like looking at me about her, about her yet. 435 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: About her yep. 436 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, I've just been amazed, like how retrograde and 437 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: out moded, like a lot of the attitude, just so 438 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: much misogyny in the world of medicine. 439 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, just curious to hear you talk about that for 440 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: a little bit. 441 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, okay, So it started with a really 442 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 5: simple thing. I get horrible, horrible period cramps I have 443 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 5: since I was fourteen, and like not just kind of 444 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 5: like ow, but like my cramps are so bad that 445 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 5: I get full body sweats. I will start throwing up 446 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 5: every ten minutes for anywhere between like three to six hours, wow, 447 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 5: bad diarrhea. I will pass out from the pain. It 448 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 5: doesn't happen every month, but it doesn't seem it just 449 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: is like every three or four months. I call these 450 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 5: deaths cramps. Uh, just so that like my family, I 451 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 5: had a way to talk to my family and friends 452 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 5: about it, because we have one word to describe having cramps. 453 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: We just have cramps. 454 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 5: And like that's not enough words because for some people 455 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: it's like just a little uncomfortable, just like achy, annoying, 456 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 5: and for some people it is like completely debilitating, excruciating pain. 457 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: And like that's not cool the one having a cramp, 458 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: that's like my my side heard a little bit for 459 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds after I ran. 460 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: Because we have a word for. 461 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: That, We have stitch. We have like, oh, I am 462 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 5: a stitch in my side for that specific kind of pain. 463 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 5: And yet we just have one word for like this 464 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: whole range of experiences. 465 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: To use that word for women. For the pain women, 466 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: it is probably just the same she's sweating and passed 467 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: out on the ground. 468 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: Right. 469 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 5: So for twenty two years I had this horrible period pain, 470 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: and I would go every doctor I went to. I 471 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 5: grew up in rural Maine, so those were the first 472 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: doctors I saw were in Burl Maine. The first doctor 473 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: I ever saw for this literally said to me, yeah, 474 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: some women just get really bad period pain, but it'll 475 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: go away when you have your first kid. And that 476 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 5: was when I was fourteen. 477 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: It's like, what is that to like incentivize, Yeah, like 478 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: child burying or something like so. 479 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, hurry, yeah, No, there's just this idea 480 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 5: that like, oh, period pain is just until you have 481 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 5: a kid, so don't worry about it. 482 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: It's like. 483 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: Yet, yeah, basically, yes, that's that's kind of underneath it all, 484 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 5: even if they don't say that part out loud, but yes, 485 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 5: so then you know. I moved to Boston saw doctors there, 486 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 5: moved to New York saw doctors there, moved to La 487 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 5: saw doctors here. Every doctor would either say like, hey, 488 00:26:52,680 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: have you tried idrowprofen It's like yeah, do that again, yeah, 489 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 5: or they would want to put me on birth control, 490 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: which I did for years and they didn't help or work, 491 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 5: so I stopped, and they would if if they wanted 492 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 5: to do anything about it, they would send me for 493 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: an ultrasound, which would come back normal and they would say, Okay, 494 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong with you. Problem solved, goodbye, And then 495 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: twenty two years yeah, and so like this would happen 496 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 5: like I I like lost jobs because of because this 497 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 5: I used to wait tables and bartend and like I 498 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: would have to like lock myself in the employee bathroom 499 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: or call out sick, and I, you know, I there 500 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: are so many things that I have missed, And it's 501 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 5: terrifying to have your body be doing something that is 502 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 5: putting you in so much pain and not know why 503 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 5: and have doctors be like, huh, I don't know, like, yeah, 504 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 5: that's really mysteries. 505 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, like a lot of that too. I'm 506 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: sure you've seen like both like male and female doctors too, 507 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 2: and like that, It's just sort of like that culture 508 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: just sort of permeate regardless of where you'd think. I'm 509 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: sure like, oh, clearly she might understand given word for 510 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: physiologically sort of a line here in our like in 511 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: our experience on Earth. But then still like it just 512 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: feels like that sort of way of looking at it 513 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: is just so entrenched in like our medical practices that 514 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: even though sort of like yeah, right, and. 515 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: Ninety percent of menstruating people get period pain some kind 516 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: of period pain, and about thirty percent of menstruating people 517 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 5: get what is called severe period pain or dysmenorrhea, but 518 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: that means but because it is not like talked about 519 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 5: openly or studied. If you are a person with a 520 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: uterus and you don't get severe period pain, you think 521 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 5: it doesn't exist basically, right. 522 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or the other people are like being dramatic. 523 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: Exactly where you're like, I get cramps. What are you 524 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: complaining about? 525 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Oh, like how white people view racism right, exactly exactly, 526 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: and I've never seen it so exactly. 527 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't get there were those signs that we made up 528 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: about not hiring Irish people in the late eighteen hundreds. 529 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: So I get it, like I've heard of but like 530 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I got over it, you know, get over it. 531 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: So it's just saying it's. 532 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 5: Pretty much that. 533 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 534 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 5: So I made this podcast because I was like, I've 535 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 5: been having the severe pain for twenty two years and 536 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 5: I've never actually gotten answers on really basic questions like literally, 537 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: what's happening inside my body that's causing this much pain? 538 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 5: How can I better treat it? How can I stop 539 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: having this pain? And why have I gone twenty two 540 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: years without getting a diagnosis or an effective treatment? And 541 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: like how many other people out there are experiencing the 542 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 5: same thing as me? And so in my attempts to 543 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: answer these questions and kind of solve my issue. Across 544 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: ten episodes, I do get a diagnosis. I do find 545 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 5: out a lot of information, but I also learn why 546 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 5: these questions are so hard to answer, which is infuriating 547 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 5: because like we know it's misogyny, right, Like we know 548 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 5: it's patriarchy, but like the extent of it, and it's 549 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: like right under the surface. You just like scratch it, 550 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: scratch the surface of teeny bit and it's like, oh, 551 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 5: it's right there. 552 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: It's wild how much it still persists on something that 553 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: is life and death for people every single day, and 554 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: it's still just like such a fucking massive blind spot. Yeah. 555 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, everybody should go listen to the podcast. It's 556 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: such an important topic. 557 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: And I will say like men men or people who 558 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 5: don't menstrate it also can get a lot out of this. 559 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: Like if you have people in your life. 560 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially go listen to it. If you're like what 561 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: don't you really see that? Don't don't? 562 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, then because like if we if we get better 563 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 5: at treating this, if we if the medical system improves, 564 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 5: like you, as a man, your life will get better 565 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 5: because the people in your life who are experiencing this 566 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: pain will be less in pain, they'll be less angry 567 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: at you, and they will be up right, they will 568 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 5: be more able to like show up to family stuff, 569 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: to like social stuff like that. It's just gonna make 570 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: the world better for everybody. And this is not a 571 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 5: small number of people, Like you know somebody that this effects. 572 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 5: And if you don't know that you know somebody, it's 573 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 5: because they don't feel safe or comfortable talking to you 574 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: about it. 575 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: So I remember in high school was like I had 576 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: a homegirl who had like real same thing, like really 577 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: terrible cramps, and like her parents were religious, and like 578 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: the doctor was like, you know, birth control, would it 579 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: would be something we can try to help, And it 580 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: was like this whole thing to like try, like where 581 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: her parents were like, nah, absolutely not. But then they're 582 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: like but then they kept seeing their daughter in like pain, 583 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: and then they're like finally relented, And I just remember 584 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: as a teenager being like, holy shit, this is like 585 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: so outside of my realm of understanding, and then like 586 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: the religious like religiosity of it to like dude, just 587 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: fucking help her do she's fucking slumped over all the time, 588 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: like in pain or like had to bring a heating 589 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: pad to school all the time. It was just like yeah, 590 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: and it's it's it's such a complex thing, but we 591 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: just I think broadly, don't like you're saying, we don't 592 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: have enough awareness on it to be able to have 593 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: conversations around it, or too many of us are having 594 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: like the realizations like I'm having as a team, You're 595 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: like whoa what, Yeah, what are you going to do? 596 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: Then that's like going up with like then that's already 597 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: going up against a whole other set of beliefs that 598 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: are like restrict the holy shit. Yeah. 599 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 5: Well, and just the fact that we don't talk about it, 600 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: like as a teenager and even into my twenties, like 601 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: I thought I was a medical anomaly, Like I thought 602 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 5: there was just because that's the reaction I got from doctors. 603 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: They were just like, weird, We've never seen anything like 604 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: this before. Yeah, and that's fucked up. 605 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 606 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 607 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: There are so many people out there experiencing the same thing, 608 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 5: And if we talked more openly about it, people wouldn't 609 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: be kind of like locked in this like hell of like, 610 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 5: well there's something wrong with me and there's nothing that 611 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: can be done, because like there is the like ultimately 612 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 5: there is a lot that can be done. There's a 613 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: lot more studies that need to be done. There's a 614 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 5: lot more investment into some of the biggest causes of 615 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 5: severe period pain. But like, we can do it, we 616 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: just have to. It's like, you know, there was no 617 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 5: like AIDS research until everybody was like, hey, fuck you 618 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: like research this. 619 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: We're dying the people too. 620 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and say we actually think they're people, 621 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: so you guys can go ahead and research this. 622 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, And we need that kind of uproar about 623 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 5: we like there are so many people in pain twelve 624 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 5: times a year, like severe pain, not able to live 625 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: their daily lives, and we're not talking about it. We're 626 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 5: not we're not aware of it. It's we've been told 627 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 5: not to make it anybody else's problem. 628 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: And like that's the same shit that was like she's 629 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: just being hysterical, right, like uh huh, oh boy, what's 630 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: your what's the anecdote for that? 631 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't ask then, Like even just like the thing 632 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: was just like just a total lack of studies into 633 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: like anything female anatomy, as like that recent study about 634 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: like snakes glitteristes, and they're like, why are we just 635 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: finding this out now. 636 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: It's like because no one was researching you and shit 637 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: ever because like men were dominating. 638 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't fucking care about that shit, 639 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, there is. 640 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 5: It's literally, uh, there's a condition called endometriosis that is 641 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: the most common cause of severe period pain. It is 642 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 5: it did end up being what I had, uh and have, 643 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 5: and it is not. It is so understudied one in ten. 644 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 5: The WHO estimates that one in ten people with the 645 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 5: uterus have endometriosis. And yet the average the average time 646 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 5: to get diagnosed with it is seven to ten years. 647 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Wow, They're like, we gotta, we gotta really make sure 648 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: you got so yeah, it's like it's only like four 649 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: hundred million people on earth. 650 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, crazy, And it's so and like the symptoms 651 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 5: are clear, like it is, nobody should be waiting that 652 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 5: long to get diagnosed. And it's partly because to be 653 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 5: officially diagnosed you have to have a laparoscopic surgery. But 654 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: like you, the symptoms are really clear, you can figure 655 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: it out. 656 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, just yeah, be like you probably have that. 657 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: Let's treat as if you do. 658 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 5: But there are gynecologists who don't know about endometriosis or 659 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 5: like it was mentioned in med school like once and 660 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: they just don't even though ten percent of people with 661 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 5: uterses have it, and gynecologists the uterist doctors don't care 662 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 5: or what yeah, end of what now? No exactly. That's 663 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 5: literally the name of a film about endometriosis is endo 664 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 5: what because yeah, people who don't know about it. 665 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: He's just not that end of you. Mm hmm Okay, 666 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: we're just punching up titles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll 667 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: put that one come back, just not that end to you. 668 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 2: And it's about a doctor just being like, could we 669 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: move it along? 670 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: Here? 671 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 7: You have? 672 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: I just have so much too. Yeah I've lost family 673 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 2: to like that kind of really lazy kind of diagnoses 674 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 2: and it ends up being something so much more severe 675 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: because the sort of default attitude at looking at this 676 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 2: is like it's fine, yeah, come back in a few 677 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: months when you have something terrible that's actually happened to. 678 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 8: You, right yeah, Like everything, like everything structural, anyone who 679 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 8: is a person of color, were anyone. 680 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: That the system is not built for is going to 681 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 5: be experiencing this like even more. I like I'm saying 682 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: I am hosting this as the podcast as like a 683 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 5: cis white woman in a like average body. And I 684 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: still had to wait twenty two years to get my 685 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: diagnosis and by the way, pay out the ass sure, 686 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 5: right outside of my already expensive insurance just to get 687 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 5: a diagnosis. And like I haven't even done treatment yet, 688 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 5: Like I don't because. 689 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: You said that place, You're like okay, I know. Now. 690 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, now there's even more questions because there is no cure. 691 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 5: You can just manage it and like yeah, it's real bad. 692 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 693 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you, thanks for making the show and 694 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: thanks for being on to tell us about it. We're 695 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break and we'll come back and 696 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk about. 697 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: The economy and other dumb bullshit. We'll be right back 698 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: and we're back back. 699 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: And all right, So, you know, this has been kind 700 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: of the ongoing story of this week is the economy 701 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: has taken a big old shit. The economy staky e economy, 702 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: the one that the mainstream media pays attention to, the 703 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: one that will fuck us over. You know, it's a 704 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: it has the ability so when it's going good, it 705 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: doesn't make most doesn't efect for rich, it's not good 706 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: for regular people. The rich people just do stock buybacks 707 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: for like the c suite. But when it's going bad, 708 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: it really really fucks everybody up. And it's going bad, 709 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: So that's not good. No, And the thing, the economy 710 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: is like one of the main reasons people gave as 711 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: to why they wanted Trump back in office. 712 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing. He's government, business president, business guy. Yeah, 713 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: And I mean, and who could blame them if you 714 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: aren't aware of all the existential threats that he poses 715 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: to America and you're only metric for deciding who to 716 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,439 Speaker 2: vote for in a presidential race. Is my life good 717 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, then yeah, sure, great, you've you've you've 718 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: succeeded there. But like their CNN recently did a poll 719 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: on Trump's handling of the economy, and he is in 720 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 2: the worst position he's ever been in forty four percent approved, 721 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: fifty six percent disapprove. That's a net thumbs down of 722 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 2: twelve percent. And on Vox they sort of plotted out 723 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: sort of where this was in terms of like other 724 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: polls and economy, and this is a total outlier, Like 725 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: it's fucking yeah, yeah, it's way the fuck down, you 726 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: know what. 727 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: It's totally reminding me of actually this is so stupid, 728 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: but this is reminding remember how like, uh what when 729 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: George Lucas brought the prequels back, everyone was like, and 730 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: now we can have the pure George Lucas vision with 731 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: like all the people just being like, you're a genius, George. 732 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: You got this one, George. And then it came out 733 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: and it. 734 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: Just sucked shit because it was like he and like 735 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: all like when you hear him talk about the original 736 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: trilogy of Star Wars, he's always like complaining about all 737 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: the notes he got and like all the battles he 738 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: had to fight, and like people give it like pushing 739 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: back and and like making it's good, yeah, making it 740 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: like yeah, reining in his worst instincts and being like, 741 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's a cool idea. 742 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 2: Let's go with the cool idea and not like the shitty. 743 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: One where you think you're like a good comedy director 744 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: and that jar Jar Binks is gonna be the future 745 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: of I feel like this is the Star Wars prequels 746 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: of the Trump presidencies, where he just is fully it's 747 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: all gas, no breaks, and he the only thing that's 748 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: keeping anything on the rails up to this point was 749 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: the breaks like, yeah, yeah, that was it, and now 750 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: it's now we are off the fucking charts. Literally, we're 751 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: we are in the in the scene where jar Jar 752 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Binks is like doing comedic pratfalls that like kill people 753 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: at the end of that first movie. But he's fighting, man, 754 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 1: he's fighting days. 755 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: But you know, this polling and just generally the attitude 756 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: from the town halls and everything. People are fucking they 757 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 2: can see for themselves that this is like affecting their 758 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: day to day, like whether it's people getting laid off, 759 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: lack of prices coming down, Dodge trucks going up in 760 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 2: the tens of thousands of dollars overnight because of tariffs 761 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: and shit like that, and the pulling all that's rattled 762 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 2: them because now the right wing is just going so 763 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 2: hard on telling people that the tariffs that are fueling 764 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: all this chaos are good. So just a couple let's 765 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: just take a quick tour of some of the takes 766 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: from the right wing taka sphere. This first one is 767 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: from Laura Ingram, who is telling her viewers to literally 768 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: just ignore the talk about the economy. Just don't listen 769 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 2: to it. That's step one. This is Laura Ingram explaining 770 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 2: this is how you protect yourself from all the haters. 771 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 9: Isn't it great to have an optimistic president who has 772 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 9: a real plan to make life better for Wall Street 773 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 9: and Main Street? Just ignore the sky is falling reports 774 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 9: in the regime press. 775 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: Tune out the breathless reporting about market. 776 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 9: Gyrations, because even the most dedicated globalists they know Trump 777 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 9: is good for business. 778 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: That was woo. 779 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 5: It's wild just to call the mainste media the regime regime. Yeah, 780 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 5: you guys control the entire government right now, you are 781 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 5: the regime. 782 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Laura defined regimeily for me, just so 783 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm just so we're clear on that. So that all 784 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: the negative stuff the regime media is saying about dear leader, yes, exactly. 785 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: Please find a new angle regime media again. And every 786 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: version of someone on Fox has there. I think everyone's 787 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: got their own little spin on how to be like, 788 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: how do we get these people to fucking ignore the 789 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 2: tariffs or try and spin the tariff? Says good? This 790 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 2: is Greg Guttfeld doing his He's given the listeners or 791 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: the viewers on Fox AND's or the five This is 792 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 2: Greg Guttfeld's four D chests on how to navigate tariffs. 793 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 10: Hey, you know, a tariff is not a tax if 794 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 10: you don't buy the goods. And I'm tired of the 795 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 10: media calling the tariff attacks. It's the opposite. You know, 796 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 10: A government issue tax is an involuntary. 797 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: Cost on you. 798 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 799 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 10: You're paying for stuff that as a New Yorker you 800 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 10: don't benefit from. 801 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 2: I spent. 802 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 10: I pay a small fortune in taxes and I still 803 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 10: have psychopaths living on my street. I have a road 804 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 10: that destroy the car suspension, and I can't take the subway. 805 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 5: But I put more taxes than my dad Dade. 806 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 10: In his whole life as an income. But it doesn't 807 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 10: really matter. I'm gonna make Jesse so happy right now. 808 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 10: You know what causes inflation. I'm glaring at Harold Dei. 809 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh, and Harold is the one person of color in 810 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: the rest exactly, And he's glaring at Harold, and then 811 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: they're like, he's joking. 812 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: Ha ha, it's again whatever. I don't know what the 813 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: fuck you're talking about. But that's so, that's sick, dude, tighty. 814 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: So you don't got to pay on that terriffs if 815 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: you just don't buy it, like the fucking food, don't 816 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: buy it it's important all the shit that's important for 817 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: American cannsumers. Like does he have any idea how much 818 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 2: we have to import to stay in this consumer economy? Yeah? 819 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also such just like a rich brain rot 820 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 5: thing of like I pay for the subway, but I 821 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 5: don't even use the subway. And it's like, do you 822 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 5: do you not use the subway because you live in 823 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 5: a gated community in Connecticut? Do you or know you 824 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 5: live in New York? So okay? Do you not use 825 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 5: the subway because you get driven everywhere? 826 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: Like that? I don't take the subway because people know 827 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm a racist piece of shit and they confront me 828 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: about it on the subway. And that's the fucking issue, right. 829 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 2: I thought I'd be just another anonymous white guy in 830 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: a Patagonia vest, but I'm not. But again, these things 831 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: are fucking tax hikes on consumers. Like he's looking at 832 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 2: it again like the most overly simplistic way in that 833 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: he's saying, well, the higher prices will make a consumer 834 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 2: just want to buy the American stuff, and then that's 835 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 2: how it helps, you know, everybody get more America centric. 836 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 2: But again, these taxes, we all know this. These are 837 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: just passed on to the consumer. Because since when is 838 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: a fucking company a business telling us, oh yeah, well, 839 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: we'll totally make less money on this, and you know 840 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: what will absorb the hit. We're not going to pass 841 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: that on to the consumer. That's not it. 842 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 5: We also, like America can't we can't feed our own 843 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 5: people on the food we grow here. We have to 844 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 5: import food. 845 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: We have to. 846 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 5: That's an optional. 847 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: You don't like potato chips made out of corn and 848 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: hamburgers made of corn. 849 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: Nobody's saying anything bad about corn here. 850 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 2: It sounds like you. 851 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: Don't like corn when the other countries have to raise 852 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: their prices. Also, just like based on what we've seen 853 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: from corporations of the past i don't know, decade, like 854 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: it seems inevitable that the corporations are also the American corporations, 855 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: even if they don't have to, will raise their corporation 856 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: raise their prices because they can, and like that's they 857 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: raise their prices anytime they can. And so if the 858 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: competition raised prices, they just raised their prices as well. 859 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: That's basically what we've seen with inflation. Even though that 860 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: that description puts a bunch of like economists and you know, 861 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,720 Speaker 1: consultants out of out of work. 862 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: So it's never the one that we get. 863 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: But that's seemed to be what's happening. Yeah, well, yeah, 864 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: inflation across the board for like, you know, as long 865 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: as it's been happening in the past five years, Like 866 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: what as inflation's happening, corporations are making record profits like that, 867 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: that's all you need to know. That's all you need 868 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: to know. Like they they're making way more money than 869 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: they've ever made, and inflation is going up. Like those 870 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: two things are related. I think we're making record profits. 871 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: Are the ones raising the prices? 872 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember we were doing this as it was happening, Jack, 873 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 2: Like we kind of stopped even trying to say inflation 874 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: because that gave all these companies cover for their just 875 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: out in the open greed. Because there are many studies 876 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: you know that was like in twenty twenty three, like 877 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: fifty corporate profits were something like half of the driving 878 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: force of inflation. It wasn't actual supply the shit that 879 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: they tried to tell us in the like twenty one. 880 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: At a certain points, it's like fuck it, bro, just 881 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: keep turning to the fucking heat up. 882 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Sorry, I think egg prices are a 883 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 5: really good microcosm of this, because, like, we know there's 884 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 5: bird flu that's like being reported on genuine public health 885 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 5: like threat but also killing all the chickens. But there 886 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 5: are egg conglomerates whose farms have not been hit by 887 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 5: bird flu who are raising their prices because they can 888 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 5: because everybody knows bird flu is out there and will 889 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 5: accept higher prices. Like it's a market economy, which but 890 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 5: it's a market economy run by conglomerates that are essentially monopolies, 891 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 5: so they get to price hike when they can get 892 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 5: away with it. 893 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: It's like, oh yeah, we're like just you know, we 894 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 2: are forty percent of the companies, just this one company. 895 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 2: It'll it'll look it looks different because the boxes are different. Yeah, 896 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 2: we do different boxes and so yeah. But then this 897 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 2: whole idea of the tariffs as tax hike has come 898 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 2: up because you know, Caroline Levitt, who's the terrible Press 899 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 2: Secretary of the White House, she was pressed by the 900 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 2: Associated Press during a briefing on this and she just 901 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: goes like, oh man, she just just spins herself into circles, 902 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: being like these are not tax hikes on American people. 903 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: Just because the prices go up doesn't mean it's a 904 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 2: tax like of you. This is her getting very very 905 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: defensive over the definition of a tariff or taxiic and 906 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: it gets a little snippy. Let's see this. 907 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 11: Actually not implementing tax hikes. Tariffs are a tax hike 908 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 11: on foreign countries that again have been ripping us off. 909 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 11: Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people. And 910 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 11: the President is a staunch advocate of tax cuts. 911 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 6: As you know. 912 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 11: He campaigned on no taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, 913 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,800 Speaker 11: no taxes on social Security benefits. He is committed to 914 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 11: all three of those things, and he expects Congress to 915 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 11: pass them later this year. 916 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, have you ever paid a terror because I 917 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: have that, don't get charged on four. 918 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 11: And ultimately, when we have fair and balanced training, which 919 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 11: the American people have not seen in decades, as I 920 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 11: said at the beginning, revenues will stay here, wages will 921 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 11: go up, and our country will be made wealthy again. 922 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 11: And I think it's insulting that you are trying to 923 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 11: test my knowledge of economics. Uh and the decisions that 924 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 11: this president has made. 925 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, Caroline, to let's keep it a book, 926 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: my darling. You don't know what it is, but I 927 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 2: like though that you do the I think it's insulting 928 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: that you're like calling me out and just broadly act 929 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 2: as if what you said was correct on any planet. 930 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 2: She is not incorrect. It is insulting. It just happens 931 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: to be accurate. And also, yeah, right, have you ever 932 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 2: paid it? I love it. That reporter. It's like, I'm sorry, 933 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 2: have you even paid it? Tariff? Do we even? 934 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: Like? 935 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 2: What the fuck are we even talking about here? 936 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 5: That guy sucks too, though. It's like kind of a 937 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 5: perfect It's like, I'm not I agree with what he's saying, 938 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 5: Like his content of what he's saying is correct, but 939 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 5: I'm like, the way you're saying this sucks, dude. 940 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is the problem with the mainstream. I'm 941 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: importing a bunch of phrase T shirts that I'm going 942 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 2: to be selling outside of Coachella, and tariff I paid it. Now, 943 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: it's funny this exact quote. This is like basically not 944 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 2: everyone is in agreement over like if these tariffs are good, 945 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 2: because this is Ben Shapiro, he is not. He's like, well, yo, 946 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: what they is going on? Full like, please explain what 947 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,720 Speaker 2: the fuck is happening. Here's a clip of Ben Shapiro 948 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 2: from his show. This is him reacting to that Caroline 949 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: Loved exchange with the Associated Press. 950 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 6: Again, I'm gonna need some clarification as to how this 951 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 6: is actually going to in the short term media and 952 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 6: long term benefit Americans. We can talk about other country 953 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 6: he's ripping us off as much as we want. And again, 954 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 6: if the goal here is to lower the tariffs by 955 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 6: getting other countries to lower their tariffs, then great, I'm 956 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,320 Speaker 6: all in makes sense. But if the idea is the 957 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 6: tariffs themselves were rich the American people, that is against 958 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 6: pretty much all economic knowledge for the last couple of 959 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 6: centuries or so. 960 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it'll turn out. 961 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 5: To be great. 962 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: I think it goes like even like it's somehow it's 963 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 2: a bridge. Maybe for it's a bridge too far for you, 964 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: because I bet this guy's stock portfolio almost look like 965 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: Deep Fried dog shit. If he's like, I don't know what, 966 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 2: what's the fucking deal here? Like, explain it to me, 967 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 2: because I am not feeling it right now. I don't 968 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 2: like what I'm seeing because a lot of people show 969 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: all the gains that have been made in a lot 970 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 2: on most of the stock markets since Trump game in office, 971 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: have been erased from all of the tariff bullshit. So 972 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: that's who I feel the worst for all those gains. 973 00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 5: Jack gains in a headline that's so good or no, 974 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 5: it's a Jezebel headline, or no, not God, I don't know. 975 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 5: It's a headline that's like, uh yeah, it's a reductrous 976 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 5: headline that is like, oh, no, worst person you know 977 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 5: just made a good point. 978 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah right right right exactly yeah for him to be like, 979 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: I just what the fuck? Just again, They're throwing their 980 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 2: hands up, And I think this is going to continue 981 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 2: to be a nightmare for the Republicans because it's one 982 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 2: thing to tell a person like in Kentucky that the 983 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 2: southern border is a hellscape and that immigrants thousands of 984 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: miles away are doing dog buffets on the locals, because 985 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: that's like an obscure and nebulous threat that they can 986 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: just sort of create in someone's mind in the theater 987 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 2: of the imagination. But it is a completely different endeavor 988 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 2: to tell someone that is seeing the prices not come 989 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 2: down at their local stores, that is seeing their retirement 990 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 2: go fucking wacky because it's tied to the stock market, 991 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 2: that the reality that they are experiencing is not what 992 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: they are in fact experiencing. And I think that's just 993 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 2: you're just seeing them really fucking grapple with this. And 994 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: there's plenty of true believers who don't, who are completely 995 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 2: disconnected from that. But you can see not everybody is 996 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: quite on board with this, especially the capitalists who their 997 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 2: life's blood is the fucking market and that is you know, 998 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: that that's not doing the thing that it needs to 999 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 2: be doing. Yeah, that seems pretty clear. Sorry, I was distracted. 1000 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 2: I was working on something. Uh. 1001 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: The Italian magician made the bench disapeiro, and then for 1002 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: the Prestige he made the bench Shapiro. Oh, bench Apiro. Wow, 1003 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: that's what I've. 1004 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 2: Been working on over here. How dare you just the 1005 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: way you're saying his name, like bench Ben Shapiro, your 1006 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: bench Shapiro. 1007 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, you know, the bench disappeared and then. 1008 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 2: So you got that, Kate, did you get that? 1009 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm still processing. 1010 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1011 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, to think think exactly. It's like the movie The Prestige, right, 1012 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 2: damn so tight? 1013 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: Wow? 1014 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 2: So tight? 1015 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: Spoilers man, Uh, Kate. Oh, yeah, bleep out of the spoiler. 1016 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 2: I was just kidding. 1017 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I do feel like that's a that's a spoiler 1018 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: that's still preserved slightly it is. 1019 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry anybody. 1020 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: Hasn't seen it because it's it's not like the it's 1021 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: not like the sixth Sense where it's like, this is 1022 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: the twist ending movie. 1023 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 2: You have to see. It's like a good movie that 1024 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 2: that love, the respect that we have for the prestige. Dude, 1025 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 2: you got to check it out still, And I feel 1026 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: so fucked up that in. 1027 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: Over ten years, but one of my favorite experiences I 1028 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: was watching that in theaters, Kate, and then right into 1029 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: a Tom York song really got my ass. Anyways, eighteen 1030 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: years ago that shit came out. 1031 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, upsetting, that's really upsetting. 1032 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're after Boneses debut. It was a great time 1033 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: for art. 1034 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, we really should start measuring things that way. Like 1035 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 5: what season of Bones was? 1036 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bones, it's pre Bones, pre Bones, pre post Bones, 1037 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 2: pre Obama. 1038 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,760 Speaker 1: I actually don't know where where was it in relation 1039 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: to season two of them? 1040 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh season two going into season three? Well count 1041 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: in the first year of as presidency. Yeah right, Okay, 1042 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 2: the economic collapse. 1043 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that was Seasons Bones and you can 1044 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: tell yeah, Uh, Kate, what a pleasure having you on 1045 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. 1046 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. 1047 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can find Cramped anywhere you get your podcast, 1048 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 5: So that's c R A, m p E, d Apple Podcasts, 1049 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 5: Spotify wherever. You can find me on TikTok at Kate 1050 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 5: is Cramped where I am continuing to share research and 1051 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 5: findings and thoughts and how much money I'm spending on 1052 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 5: my medical care. And you can find me on Instagram 1053 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 5: at Kate Helen Downey. 1054 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: There you go. Is there a work of media that 1055 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 2: you've been enjoying other than Bones? Other than Bones? 1056 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, or it could be you could just double down 1057 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: on the Bones love. 1058 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 5: You know, it's tempting, it's tempting. But no, I actually 1059 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 5: did find a tech I found a tech talk account 1060 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 5: that I'm really enjoying and I don't know how ethical 1061 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 5: it is because it might be AI, but I'm enjoying it. 1062 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 5: So it's called doctor Pickle and it's the it's like 1063 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 5: medical explainer videos but with a lot of swears. So 1064 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 5: it would be like this motherfucking endometriosis is when these 1065 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 5: cells get out of the goddamn uterus and they go 1066 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 5: other places they're not fucking supposed to be, And it's 1067 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 5: just like it's really mashing my freak in a way 1068 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,320 Speaker 5: that I enjoy. 1069 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 2: Nice, love it. Miles. 1070 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: Where can people find you as their working media you've 1071 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: been enjoying? 1072 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 2: Yes, find me everywhere. They have the at Bowl at 1073 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: Miles of Gray, find Jacket on the basketball podcast Miles 1074 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,479 Speaker 2: and jackot mad Boost, and you can catch me talking 1075 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: ninety day Fiance on the other show four to twenty 1076 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:15,720 Speaker 2: Day Fiance. Let's see some things I like. First one, actually, 1077 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 2: this is this one. This from Captain Bleach at Blaine 1078 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 2: capitch dot, be sky Dot social tweet hit coming out 1079 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: of the MR coming out of the MRI machine, Do 1080 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 2: not go in there, because what are you doing? I 1081 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 2: just love the idea of somebody coming out of an 1082 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 2: MRI farting. Anyway, that's it, that's me. 1083 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: I enjoyed a Blue Sky from Amy ash at Lolan 1084 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: Wi on Blue Sky, who retweeted a picture of the 1085 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,640 Speaker 1: Bill from Schoolhouse Rock talking to the kid on the 1086 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: stairs of the Capitol and said, I'm just a bill. Yeah, 1087 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm only a bill, and you're gonna kill a man 1088 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: for eggs someday. 1089 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 5: Schoolhouse Rock is the gift that keeps on getting. 1090 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 2: We all remember it. 1091 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien 1092 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: and on Blue Sky at jack Obi and then the 1093 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: Number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue 1094 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, 1095 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: you can go to the description of the episode wherever 1096 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: you're listening to it, and you can find the footnotes, 1097 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: which is where we link off to the information that 1098 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode. We also link off 1099 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: to a song that we think you might enjoy. They're 1100 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: in the footnotes. Hey, Miles, is there a song that 1101 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: you think people might enjoy that you might want to 1102 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: link off to in the footnotes notes, The weather is 1103 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 1: not great in LA. 1104 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 2: It's very rainy. We love rain though, but it makes 1105 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: me long for you know, like the you know, with 1106 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 2: the with the Spring Forward. I'm like, I'm looking forward 1107 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 2: to little spring, little sun, maybe be in the water 1108 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: or type of shit. And this band, I just want 1109 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 2: to This is the way they describe their work, and 1110 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 2: this is I'm only gonna read it because this is 1111 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 2: this is the vibe of the track We're about to 1112 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 2: go out and says quote, you wake up to the 1113 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 2: smell of churros coming through your window. It's unseasonably warm, 1114 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 2: and you're not hungover, like at all. The public pool 1115 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 2: open like at all. You walk, even though it's kind 1116 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: of far, and on the way you find a ten 1117 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: dollars bill on the sidewalk. The pool is packed and 1118 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 2: everyone's playing that game where you grease up a watermelon 1119 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 2: and try to catch it. The sun is fucking blasting, 1120 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 2: the beers are seven dollars, but you've got two cold 1121 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,919 Speaker 2: red stripes in your backpack. Some kid has this sick 1122 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 2: boom box and ask you what to put on. You 1123 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 2: already know exactly what you're choosing. It's got to be 1124 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 2: King Pari. So this is the artist King Pari with 1125 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 2: the track something Something. And again if you like that description, 1126 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 2: they are delivering on this track something Something. 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