1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Scalable advice for sure, spice, It's time nice he lover. Hello, 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: welcome to the Naughty but Nic Show. I'm your house 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: tramp shooter. It is Wednesday here in Britain. If you're 4 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: in America, you're still fast asleep. Good for you. That 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: five hour time difference, it really does make a different. 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: So I'm a bright and early in my mom's house. 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: It's a ninetieth ninety zero birthday. Today we have a party. 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Christine and I are taking her to see Legally Blonde, 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one of her favorite movies is now a musical and 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: it's touring Britain and so we're off to see that today. 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be lots of cake and lots of laugh. 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: So thank you all for reaching out to I've seen 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: all your dms, all your messages, all your emails. They're 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: just delightful. I've read every single one to my mom 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: and she doesn't quite understand what I do for living, 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: and she doesn't quite understand who the naughties are, but 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: nevertheless she knows it's a nice thing. So thank you 18 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: for making my mommy's birthday special special special. Let's jump 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: into an as show. We've got a ton of news 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: to get to what time is it? My friends? It 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: is tea time. Big story at the top of the show. 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: Big developments in the Savannah Guthries mother's missing case. So 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: a person of interest has been detained and now released. 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: In a dramatic twist in the ongoing search for Savannah 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Guthrie's missing mom, a man was briefly that's the keyword, 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: briefly detained Tuesday night in connection in connection with the investigation. 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: He has now been released. The interval individual identified as Carlos, 28 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: told reporters he spoke after he was released. Told reporters 29 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: that he was pulled over after noticing police following his car. 30 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: He says he was questioned for hours before being let go. 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: He said the following quote, I might have delivered a 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: package to her house, but I never kidnapped anybody. Law 33 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: enforcements have not named any suspects and the investigation is 34 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: still very active. In cases like this, tensions are running high, 35 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: but facts man of the most. So let's be clear here. 36 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: We want this solved, the whole nation, the whole world. 37 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: It's even making news here in Britain. We want to 38 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: find Nancy, we want justice here, but we also to 39 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: have to follow the facts. So it seems as if 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Carlos did deliver a package to her house, so that 41 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: stuff is documented. They might have video of this, they 42 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: might have GPS of this. But because he delivered a package, 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: he was seen at the house where she went missing from, 44 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: it's all very suspicious. The police are doing a brilliant 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: job here investigating this. He was brought in, he was 46 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: questioned and then released, which means they did not have 47 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: enough to charge him to hold him. And we, even 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: though we are frustrated, we should have a sigh of 49 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: relief here because we do not want innocent people arrested. 50 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: I do not know if Carlos is innocent or guilty, 51 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: but I do know that the police do not have 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: enough evidence, and thus you've got to follow the evidence. 53 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: You can't follow your heart's desire. Of course, we want 54 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: to blame somebody, We want to catch somebody. We want justice. 55 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: But justice isn't justice unless you get the right person. 56 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: And at the moment, it seems as if Carlos is 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: not that person, or else they wouldn't have released him, 58 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: or maybe they just didn't have enough facts here. We 59 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: knew something was going on because a family member revealed 60 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: that her home was being searched by the authorities, and 61 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: she said her son in law was the man detained 62 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: earlier in the day, So this is very interesting. The 63 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: police went to his home, he shared it with his 64 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: mother in law. He insists he had nothing to do 65 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: with the kidnapping, but they did search the home. They 66 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: were in there, they were taking photographs, they were asking questions. 67 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: She claims that she's even showed her surveillance footage outside 68 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: her home to the authorities. And this is really really 69 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: important because we do now have a video. The police release, 70 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: the FBI released a chilling image in the case. It 71 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: appears like this could be a turning point. The FBI 72 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: has released the first surveillance images tied to the disappearance 73 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: of Nancy, and the horrifying We see a masked, armed figure. 74 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: He's seen tampering with the front door camera, the camera 75 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: on the front door in the early hours of the 76 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: morning when Nancy vanished for the first time. This isn't 77 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: theory or speculation. It's a person its presence. It's proof. 78 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: This was not a misunderstanding. So after days of stalled 79 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: leads and unanswered questions, law enforcement is finally narrowing their focus. 80 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: They released this to the public asking for help, and 81 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: then within hours somebody was detained, and then then they 82 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: were released. A lot of people are asking me, why 83 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: did it take ten days? Why did it take so 84 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: long to release this image? And I'm told it took 85 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: so long because not because the investigators were idle, but 86 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: because the camera was missing and Nancy reportedly didn't subscribe 87 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: to Google Cloud backup plan, So no sub subscription. If 88 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: you don't have a subscription, no automatic extored stewed footage. 89 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: You know this. If you break your iPhone and you're 90 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: taken in, you have to get a new one. If 91 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: you're not backed up to the clouds, you're going to 92 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: lose all that. Now, because of the high profile the 93 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: interest in this case, the FBI could dig deep and 94 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: their agents recovered, thankfully quote residual data from their backed 95 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: up system. So it was not as easy as just 96 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: going and finding the camera and having a look at 97 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: the cloud and seeing the footage. They had to dig deep. 98 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: They had to get technology experts, IT experts involved, and 99 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: they were hoping that maybe there was some residual data. 100 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Thankfully there was not a lot, but enough now that 101 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: we have the image of somebody on Nancy's doorstep, fiddling, messing, 102 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: disabling her camera while wearing a ski mask. That's the guy. 103 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: That's the guy. They thought they might have him. They 104 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: detained somebody, but now they have released them. This is 105 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: such a big deal, not just for America, for the world. 106 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: In fact, it was such a big deal that NBC 107 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: broke into the Olympics. They have spent hundreds of millions 108 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: of dollars to buy the Olympics. They have the exclusive 109 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: rights to the Olympics. It's a big deal to NBC. 110 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: They interrupted its primetime coverage of the Olympics, Yes, the Olympics, 111 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: for a special report on Nancy Gruthrie's investigation. The network 112 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: confirmed that a person of interest had been detained for questioning, 113 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: just hours after the FBI released that chilling video of 114 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: an armed, masked suspect on her front door. They have 115 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: invested my sources tell me ten billion. Did you hear 116 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: that NBC has invested ten billion in the Olympics exclusive 117 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: rights through twenty thirty six, So that's not just one year, 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: for the next ten years. NBC has the Olympics cost 119 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: them a lot of money, so they do not break 120 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: in for stuff is not very very important. They don't 121 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: want to break in. This was important. I think we 122 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: can all agree there they did the right thing. Still waiting, 123 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: still more to learn, but there is a glimmer of hope. Today. 124 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Somebody has been questioned and now, finally, thanks to how 125 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: hard the technology, the it, the police, the FBI are working, 126 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: we now have an image. We have somebody on Nancy's door, 127 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: tampering with her, tampering with her camera on her doorbell, 128 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: and also wearing a ski mask at two am in 129 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: the morning. I'm mean, we got we got an image. 130 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: We don't have him yet, but we have got an image. Okay, 131 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: no poll today, it's just too sad. We don't do 132 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: polls when these stories are this sad. And so we'll 133 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: move right along, hopefully something a little bit more uplifting. 134 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: What we have here is that Michael Douglas's got torched 135 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: while he was making Wall Street, that famous movie he made. 136 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: He was two weeks into rehearsals when director, a very 137 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: famous director, Oliver Stone, knocked on his trailer door and 138 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: basically asked him, have you forgotten how to ask act? Now? 139 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: This was brutal, but there's a twist here, Michael said 140 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: he actually worked, He sharpened his performance, he worked harder, 141 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: He had that swagger that Gordon Gayco has, and so 142 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: this greatness was coaxed out of him. It was provoked 143 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: out of him, which leads us to a question a 144 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: thought today, does tough love work? I'm not a fan 145 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: of tough love. I'm a fan of love love. I 146 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: don't like criticism, but I have to admit here. I 147 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: don't want to, but I have to. When I get 148 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: strong notes about the show, about what's going on about 149 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: my work, even though it does not feel right or 150 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: kind in the moment, it often makes me adjust what 151 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing normally for the better. Does tough love work 152 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: on you? Michael Douglas, one of the biggest stars in 153 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: the world making a huge movie Wall Street. Performance wasn't 154 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: great at first, the first few weeks they were shooting, 155 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't great, and the director took him to one 156 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: side and was really rough. It was really tough, said 157 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: have you forgot how to act? He even asked, are 158 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: you on drugs? And so that made Michael reconsider I'm 159 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: personally not a fan of tough love. I don't run 160 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: my business with that much tough love, but do you 161 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and does it work? And I've got to admit it 162 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: has worked for me once or twice. Over here in Britain, 163 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: we've got to talk about William and Andrew. A lot 164 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: is going on. So William's not here at the moment. 165 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: He's on an official visit in Saudi Arabia. The government 166 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: asked William if he would go to Saudi Arabia despite 167 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: all the horrors over there, what's going on in that country. 168 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: William was there and he was openly challenged by reporters 169 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: about the royal family and what has it really done 170 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: regarding the former Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epste. The question 171 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: was shouted at the Prince twice and it hung in 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the air. William did not answer. He kept walking. Now, 173 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Kensington Palace have issued a very carefully worded statement addressing 174 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: the concerns of the victims, but their silence in the 175 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: moment spoke just as loudly. Andrew is following William the 176 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: royals everywhere. I get it. The Palace is desperate to 177 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: move on. But whether the public or the media, the 178 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: press led them, that's another thing. Entirely. I don't think 179 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: they should be allowed to move on here. Andrew was 180 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: a very intricate part of that family and used his 181 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: power to do evil. We know that now we've seen 182 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: the Epstein files. There's more that's going to come. Andrew's 183 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: a bad guy. What has the family done to protect him? 184 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: What is the family going to do moving forward? I 185 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: know King Charles dilly dallyed on this. It is his brother. 186 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: He has deep feelings towards his brother and their sister, 187 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: and also so Edward, the youngest brother. They've dilly dallied too. 188 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: It is William that we have to tip our hat 189 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: to here. It is William that told his dad, his aunt, 190 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: his uncle that they had to do something. William is 191 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: the driving force to get Andrew away from this family, 192 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: to get rid of this problem. But this is where 193 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: the issue is. Getting rid of a problem is not justice. 194 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: Put in Andrew in a big, beautiful private farm up 195 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: in Sandrington, three hours away from London. Yes, it gets 196 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,599 Speaker 1: him out of the spotlight. It gets him out of 197 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: the capitol, It gets him maybe out of the press. 198 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: It puts him on an estate, a private estate where 199 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: photographers are not allowed. He can ride his horses, he 200 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: can live out the rest of his life in the 201 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: lap of luxury. They're not putting him into a tiny 202 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: little flat, They're giving him a massive, massive farm house. 203 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: But is that justice is getting rid of him justice? 204 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: I would argue, No, it's not. This needs to be invested. 205 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: The police have opened an investigation now the palace. The 206 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: King has finally said that yes he thinks this is 207 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: a good idea and they will cooperate. But will they 208 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: They've got to now be totally transparent, I would argue here, 209 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the sentiment is that this is the biggest crisis ever 210 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: ever to shake the royal family. This is going to 211 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: change the family, it's going to change the monarchy. He 212 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: could even get rid of the monarchy for the first 213 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: time ever. Opinion polls here more people are against the 214 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Royals than are for them. That is a massive, massive change. 215 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: And so if this is not handled, not swept under 216 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: the carpet, which is what the Royals have a horrible 217 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: habit of doing. They want to carry on, what is it, 218 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Keep calm and carry on, never complain, never explain. That's 219 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: the family motto. Not going to work anymore. Andrew has 220 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: really exposed the rot in the family, in the institution 221 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: and how are they going to crect the cause for 222 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: owing came into a big, fabulous, six bedroom farmhouse three 223 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: hours outside London. That's not justice. If you or I 224 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: had done what Andrew has been accused of doing, we 225 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: would be probably in jail should Andrew pay that price. 226 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: It looks as if he has committed crimes. Once again, 227 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: we're not trying to rush ahead of ourselves. We're not 228 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: getting ahead of our skis here to use an Olympic metaphor, 229 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: but just ignoring this, William, if you're listening a love 230 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: a love alone, or just pushing this to one side, 231 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: or just issue in a statement and hoping we can 232 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: all just move on. Not gonna work. This is not 233 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: going to work. Okay, We're gonna take a quick break 234 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: and we will be you right back, welcome back to 235 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: it will be naughtimate, nice hauste shooter. Hey, we normally 236 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: get to the polls right here, but I think I 237 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: think we made the right choice here. Tonal wise, sensibility wise, 238 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: it's just not a good idea, is it to do 239 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: a poll when someone's mother is missing and said no polls? 240 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: We haven't done one actually for I think about a 241 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: week now. This story has been going on for ten 242 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: eleven days, and we has been our lead every day 243 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: almost It's such a massive story. So no poll today, 244 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: don't vote on a poll for tomorrow. There is no 245 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: poll for tomorrow. So let's get straight to and Nicest 246 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: of the day. Oh, and Nicest of the Day is 247 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: a really really exciting single Chapel Roan. I think you 248 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: might have heard a Chapel. She has been out there 249 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: winning awards. Her Pink Pony Club is just delicious. Everybody 250 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: is singing along to that. The album is fantastic. Well, 251 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: now we figured out. We now know she's not just 252 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: an incredible artist, she's an incredible human being. Chapel just 253 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: did what most other artists would whisper about. She walked 254 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: away from her most powerful talent agent, the founder of 255 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: the company, Cassie Wasserman, who has surfaced in the Epstein files. 256 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: So she didn't edge a Betsy her. She didn't try 257 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: and swirm and this she was a statement, but not 258 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: do anything. No, this was not prre spin. This was values. 259 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Chapel may be clear that no creer Win is worth 260 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: your moral compromise, period. And in the industry where silence 261 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: and often shrugging is the norm She said, no, it's 262 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: going to be about accountability. Now. Should she have stayed 263 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: with this really powerful agent. She might have if all 264 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: she was focused on was a career, no doubt. A 265 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: lot of power here. Having a powerful agent is very 266 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: essential to be in a massive star. She doesn't care. 267 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: She won't be in business with people who were in 268 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: business with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. And I think this is extraordinary. 269 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: Once again, Chapel has done nothing, no wrong. But her manager, 270 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: somebody in her inner circle is in the Epstein files 271 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: and I've seen their emails. They're disgusting. They grow people. 272 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: She doesn't want him as her agent, him on her team. 273 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: The Royals could learn a lot here from Chapel and 274 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: nicest of the day. Sometimes making a hard decision is 275 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: the best thing to do, and she made a really 276 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: hard decision. Her career is just exploding. She's the new 277 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: Eat person, She's the new Moment, and what happens in 278 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: the next few months is going to determine whether or 279 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: not she goes on to be a megastar or disappears 280 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: from the spotlight. She's just broke through. Everybody's talking about 281 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: this album, but she's decided, you know, what. I don't 282 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: care about that at the minute. I care about what's right, 283 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: and being in business with someone who is in business 284 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein is not for her. Well done, it's brave, 285 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: it's courageous taking a risk with your career to do 286 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the right thing. A lot of people wouldn't do that, 287 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: would you? And nicest the other day and now and 288 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: naughty is the day, naughty, naughty, naughty. Bethany Frankel is 289 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: trying to walk back criticism of Bunny. So Bethany, who 290 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: is prolific on social media, always given her take, always 291 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: given her opinion. She trashed the Super Bowl halftime performance, 292 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: but then she deleted it poof it has gone. Minutes later, 293 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: she did another video where she appeared to be much 294 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: more softer. She was pivoting here, so I think she 295 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: spoke her truth. She didn't like it, she said it. 296 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: The receipts will last forever, even though the video has 297 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: been deleted. And then because it did not poll well, 298 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: it didn't feel well with her fans, with people that 299 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: love her, she changed her mind. This is the opposite 300 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: of a chapel road, it really is. It's just the opposite. Here. 301 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: I love when Wendy Williams our dear friend, Wendy. I 302 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: hope she's doing okay. I haven't spoken to her in 303 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: a while. I love when Wendy used to say say 304 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: it like you mean it. If you don't want to 305 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: say it, don't. Nobody's forcing you but to sort of 306 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: shrink to fit. It's just not a good look, particularly 307 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: when you pretend that your brand is built on being authentic. No, 308 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: your brand is built on being liked. And the more 309 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: likes she gets, the more attention she gets. And so 310 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: this one was a tricky one for Bethany, but she 311 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: has deleted that video. Haylet's end with a moment of 312 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Rob you Rob, You Rob, you got Rob. Don't let 313 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: somebody ruin your peace just because they can't find theirs. 314 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: Their chaos is not your responsibility. Their anger is not 315 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: your burden. You don't have to absorb dysfunction just to 316 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: prove your kind protecting your peace. That's not a rudence, No, 317 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: that's wisdom. Not everyone deserves access to your energy, or 318 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: your time, or your heart. And you are allowed to 319 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: step back, go quiet and choose calm over conflict. Peace 320 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: is earned, So God it fiercely once again don't let 321 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: someone ruin your peace just because they can't find their Hey, 322 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: that is it for today. Thank you for listening. I 323 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: know the sound quality. He's not quite as good here 324 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: in my mom's house as my little studio in my apartment. 325 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: So thank you. I am terribly grateful you're the co 326 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: host today. 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