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Speaker 2: The world a bit can Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. No, Paul,

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Speaker 2: it's that annual show March Madness. He's uh knee deep

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Speaker 2: in Nollah lights at this point.

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Speaker 3: But when it started lights probably he's about four SIPs

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Speaker 3: in right now?

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Speaker 2: Twelve or five? So who's this guy from Texas?

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Speaker 3: This is my favorite part?

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Speaker 2: And somebody is I heard this? I heard somebody? Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

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Speaker 4: No, who's going to be the Andy and the new one?

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Speaker 5: Like you guys have never transitioned to an Andy yet

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Speaker 5: there's only so many.

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Speaker 2: From the world.

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Speaker 3: Finishing each other.

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Speaker 5: Anyway.

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Speaker 6: Another another great phone call by Todd. He can put

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Speaker 6: away the path now.

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Speaker 3: I love it listening around listener crime, Hey, what's the

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Speaker 3: Lazare Bachelor party?

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Speaker 7: What is that?

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Speaker 2: They hired Darren Alafsky to do a strip tease? He

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Speaker 2: comes out of a cake.

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Speaker 3: What we got here is me?

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and it's Matisse again. Yeah. I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you, we're getting emails already. They're not good, not

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Speaker 2: good about it. It's Alex, it's Paul myself. Deuce is

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Speaker 2: in Orlando at the owners meeting, Evan is at LS.

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Speaker 2: Where is he? L L s U at the pro day?

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Speaker 3: Daniels first, then May.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Matt and Jeweles in the booth. So

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a different cast today. We'll

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Speaker 2: try to keep it going right. Big shoes to fill,

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Speaker 2: big shoes to fill. So we had the head coach

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Speaker 2: talk yesterday at the owners meeting. We had the not yesterday, Monday.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Correct, yesterday and Monday spoke yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I am so screwed up. I called Matt Smith no

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Speaker 2: socks yesterday at about five thirty because I thought yesterday

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Speaker 2: was Tuesday, and I said, where's the owner? He says

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Speaker 2: he was going today. No, No, he's going tomorrow. I

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Speaker 2: thought yesterday was Tuesday, and the oh, the owner's going

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I'm just I don't know why I thought

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Speaker 2: yesterday was Tuesday. Anyway, the owner went today, the head

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Speaker 2: coach went yesterday, so we'll talk about what they had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had all that stuff up on the website,

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Speaker 3: so I'm sure that our listeners had a chance to

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Speaker 3: to watch it. If not live, you got a chance

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Speaker 3: to see it, especially Girodd. It's been out there for

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Speaker 3: a whole day. Now you have some interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: But as I am wont to do time, I have

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Speaker 2: something that's been Sunday. It's been building and it's and

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Speaker 2: It's particularly Drod about what he's been saying, Like do

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Speaker 2: I think he talks too much?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And I think like sometimes he talks and he should,

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Speaker 3: Can we agree? Can we identify? Can we call some

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Speaker 3: you know me, I like a good media sat well,

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Speaker 3: can we can we identify someone?

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Speaker 2: Well? I was talking to somebody here this morning, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Was accost advice to say, Okay, yeah, who you know?

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Speaker 3: One of the one was because I haven't heard the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just like should should we should we

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Speaker 2: So she said, is this a foreign thirteen team? And

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Speaker 3: That's perfect.

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Speaker 2: This team hasn't played yet and and in fact, we

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Speaker 2: the process. So yeah, we're not a foreign thirteen team.

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Speaker 2: We're zero and zero team. But like, it's just people

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Speaker 2: I think it's unfair.

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Speaker 11: It's crazy because I mentioned a couple months ago. But like,

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Speaker 11: don't know until like maybe Ota c how it's going.

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Speaker 3: Right, You're not gonna know until they play, and they're

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Speaker 2: year deals. Is that really where the Patriots should have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think you can make an argument

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Speaker 2: I love Tyron Smith, but but yeah, I didn't know

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Speaker 3: I just and I would say Jonah Williams, you know,

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Speaker 3: think that would have been a perfectly reasonable contract to

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Speaker 3: a WHENU and Mayo sort of backed up that he

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Speaker 2: But I just don't, you know, like this whole thing, Oh,

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Speaker 2: for a lack of wanting to spend. They just haven't felt,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't see where everyone is just so

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Speaker 12: People on the ledge, people's expectations are just way too

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Speaker 12: high for next season with all the intangibles here. And also,

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Speaker 12: like I think reporters and fans alike went so long

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Speaker 13: And he wasn't going to give them.

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Speaker 14: And now Girod's kind of just like not laying it

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Speaker 14: and they're like trying to read into that too or

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Speaker 14: take everything so literally, and it's like, calm down, what

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Speaker 2: Calmed down?

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Speaker 3: And again, now I think the disaster part is ridiculous. Okay,

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Speaker 3: like we haven't even played a game. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's any any less ridiculous. It suggest they're going to

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Speaker 2: But in the owner said, I hope we don't struggle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of a big admission.

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Speaker 3: But my point being is when you talk about people

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Speaker 3: being disappointed with what they've done so far, that's a

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Speaker 3: different thing than saying it's going to be a disaster.

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Speaker 3: The Mayo tenure is not going to work. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's certainly realistic if someone is thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little disappointed for a couple of reasons. One

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the money that they had. He said that

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Speaker 13: Oh, I know, right, so which walked back on Monday.

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Speaker 3: No, I know, but he said it, and that establishes expectations.

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Speaker 3: And then when the expectation is that they're going to

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Speaker 3: be aggressive and they're not, I understand why people are disappointed.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't translate too, this is a disaster.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So all that translates is he's brand new to this.

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Speaker 13: I don't think you really have to.

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Speaker 12: When you're in a role like that, You need to

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Speaker 12: think like ten steps ahead with everything that comes out

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Speaker 12: of your mouth. You need to think about all the

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Speaker 12: different ways it can be interpreted. And it just I

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Speaker 12: don't think he's ever had this much of like a

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Speaker 12: telescope on it.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, remember when you were a kid,

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Speaker 2: like you didn't always have money in your pocket, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes like maybe your grandmother gave you twenty bucks, and

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Speaker 2: you have twenty bucks in your pocket and you want

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Speaker 2: to spend that money, and so you go to like

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Speaker 2: the toy store, like all of a sudden, you don't

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Speaker 2: know what to spend it on. It's like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to spend it, but like I can't decide what

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Speaker 2: to spend it on. It's kind of like maybe how

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Speaker 2: they're feeling right now.

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Speaker 3: I've never heard that problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, but you know, you ever get remember that when

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Speaker 2: you were a kid?

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always the case. Though it didn't bother you

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Speaker 2: Ohough, there was nothing to talk about because there was

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Speaker 13: And it made it easy. It really made it easy

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Speaker 12: And now there is in a place where the only

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Speaker 2: Like that pet photos, I like that.

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Speaker 13: See I think I don't think they're putting that out.

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Speaker 3: But I think when they were winning, and you would

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Speaker 13: You're not happy with a winning team, like what are you?

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Speaker 3: But the point is I think that they want that

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Speaker 3: the fans. I've ever seen a team that every single

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Speaker 3: move universally is loved. I've never seen a team like that,

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Speaker 3: This guy's gonna fit right in. He's got this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: even heard of you, Okay about how good it's in

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Speaker 3: my like, I don't again, I've gone through this before.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they get there, Alex, but they're

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Speaker 3: it can't be that way, and I think that they

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Speaker 3: any pushback. The fans are gonna love that. That's what

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Speaker 3: my fans want to hear. And if it goes bad, well, Hey,

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Speaker 3: at least I went bad being optimistic. You know, if

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Speaker 3: good player, Dan, I'm going to hear about that later,

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Speaker 3: you know, like like you know when you know, like

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Speaker 2: I guess my overall thing is this season could go anyway.

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Speaker 2: You go up, down, it could go anyway. But there's

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Speaker 2: nothing yet that I've seen that would indicate which way

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Speaker 2: it's going to go. And I think at this point

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Speaker 2: really premature. And you know, just I think irresponsible. If

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Speaker 11: What do you think of the wins line set for

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Speaker 9: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Four and a half?

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Speaker 11: Four and a half?

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Speaker 2: Like I can understand that, I agree, you know, look

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Speaker 2: at the competition, that's the main thing. You know, other

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's premature because the draft hasn't come yet.

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, really improved anything. Now. The draft is

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Speaker 2: The disdain for you know, signing their own players, like

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Speaker 12: Isn't it kind of a good sign that after all

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Speaker 13: They still wanted to.

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Speaker 2: Be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: Sure about Doug yet, yeah, dog like yeah, Like Michael,

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Speaker 3: I think he had options, and I think he was

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Speaker 13: They could have gone somewhere Hunter Henry was probably the

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they could have gone somewhere else for similar money,

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Speaker 3: Why would you do that because they hate like they

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Speaker 2: No, but what No? I didn't say that.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, like after a situation.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you would think that all the toxicity, no matter

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Speaker 13: Get the hell out, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if there was options, they would have gone.

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Speaker 2: So maybe it wasn't so bad. You can think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when the guy signed a one year, three

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Speaker 2: He didn't leave because he hated it. He stayed. You know.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't say he hated. He loves Gerard Mayo.

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Speaker 2: Through a wall for that.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good Thingah, that's fine. But if he

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Speaker 2: Adam went to that window.

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Speaker 3: All I'm trying to say is that, well, up to

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that. I don't.

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Speaker 11: I think the big ones Hunter Henry, I think he

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Speaker 3: I think I think he could have gotten really, no,

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Speaker 3: nine million a year, he's going to get more than that.

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Speaker 2: He could have got as much. If he didn't like it,

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Speaker 2: he could have got as much and left. But he didn't.

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Speaker 3: I think that's for a guy his age, that's topping

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Speaker 2: Let's just hold our breath. We got the draft coming up,

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Speaker 2: and as the owner said, and I think Jerrod might

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Speaker 2: Once you know, teams figure out who they got. You

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Speaker 2: we'll see. The team building process does not end even

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Speaker 3: And I think there could be some big ticket guys like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they would get rid of Ayuk.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to get rid of these guys, want

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Speaker 2: get rid of Samuel.

441
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

442
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 2: Now that's probably a lot of dead money if they

443
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 2: do that, so they can't get hurt a lot too.

444
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 3: I don't think it if San Francisco, it shouldn't be

445
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 3: in either role. Yeah, it should be. I want both. Yeah,

446
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 3: but I agree with you that would hold on Yuk.

447
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 11: And I'm waiting to see though that, Like if there's

448
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 11: a Higgins trades and like a j Brown a couple

449
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 11: of years ago, just something that we're not look.

450
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 3: At what Jerry snead Like, same kind of deal and

451
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 3: he goes for the third round pick and some other

452
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 3: stuff like it's not outrageous, but you got.

453
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 10: To pay the guy.

454
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 11: That's a well win win loose.

455
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 3: Okay, but those are the guys, those two receivers. I

456
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: think there's a I'm not going to tell you I

457
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 3: think the Patriots are going to get one, but I

458
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 3: think those are big ticket items that could be a

459
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 3: swing for the Patriots.

460
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the weaponizing hasn't started yet.

461
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: Even you can't stop.

462
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: Finger wags me for doing it just because that hasn't happened,

463
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 2: Just because it hasn't happened yet. I don't think it's

464
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: a disaster, you know, and I don't I don't think.

465
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that Gerardo, you know, spilling.

466
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: His oj okay, Joe Murray, no.

467
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 2: Funny, that was Callahan, I think and his you know,

468
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: it's a it's a sign, it's you know.

469
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 3: That's what Joe Murray was saying last night. I was

470
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 3: at first I thought he was making a joke. But

471
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 3: say that like just like like he's all over it

472
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: was a metaphor for what I was like the whole

473
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: It's a mess.

474
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

475
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 11: This is what I mean, Like, right, look too deep.

476
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: That's why I thought you were talking about That's.

477
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: Why I was dramatic.

478
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 13: Why are men so dramatic? I don't understand who's who's okay,

479
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 13: who's the one trying to create?

480
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: And I just feel bad for the fans, like the

481
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: writers of the Conduit to the team, and they have

482
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: to sift through this stuff. I don't know. Paul was

483
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: on one of his shows yesterday for four hours, and

484
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 2: now I noticed something about Paul. When he's on one

485
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: of his shows. He's a different Paul. He's more cool

486
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of Yeah, he's more like after dark Paul, you know,

487
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: And if you really listen closely, he sounds like Dan shaughnessy.

488
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 12: It's like when you have that friend that with you

489
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 12: they're normal, but then they hang out with other friends

490
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 12: who are cooler and they put on so.

491
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: You think I was cool and understated. Compare comparatively.

492
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: It's a snarky, but you're in an understated.

493
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I still got a costume for you know.

494
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: I only heard the end of the end of the show.

495
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, there was nothing on the show. But the

496
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 3: show was harmless. Okay, show was.

497
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Well, you got to you gotta stir

498
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: it up when you get on these shows. When and

499
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, when Tony Mazzarati first started going on

500
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 2: the radio, he was nice Tony and then he turned

501
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: into evil Tony and that's when he got the full

502
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: time job.

503
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: You would recognize there's a little bit of a line

504
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: that I have to know.

505
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: But you can be evil about the other teams.

506
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: We didn't talk a lot about the other teams, but

507
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 3: I ripped into the Red Sox and Bruins.

508
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 10: A little bit.

509
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: Okay, who isn't these days?

510
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Well the Bruins.

511
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, by the way, should we talk about a

512
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: little bit?

513
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: I was told to stay in my mind just I

514
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: don't want to know.

515
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 12: Also, the stuff happening, did you guys see the Michael

516
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 12: Porter Junior's brother stuff to a lot of sports.

517
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: Think about the game, I don't. I don't understand why

518
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: the leagues have to get criticized for their partnerships. Now

519
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: with all the best, I agree as a result of this, yeah,

520
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't really understand what one has to

521
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: do with the age.

522
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, it happened in the Premier League in this player.

523
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: Especially Otani, which was not a book was not one

524
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: of these.

525
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 13: Was an old fashioned bookie.

526
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: But here's Initially it was, you know, the interpreter betting

527
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: and uh Otani, you know, wired four and a half

528
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: million dollars to this bookie. Then now the story is

529
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: the money was stolen by his interpreter. Okay, if that's true,

530
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: the interpreter is going to get arrested, right and the

531
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: bookie probably too for an accessory. And if it's not true,

532
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: then the bookies, I mean, this interpreter is gonna spill

533
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: the beans, right, I'm not going to get I'm not

534
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 2: going to cover for this guy.

535
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: So eventually I see how much he's getting paid, Well,

536
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: I don't with them.

537
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 11: He's with them twenty four to seven more or less.

538
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 11: Like there's no way.

539
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think eventually more of this, there's more to

540
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: come here. So I'm not going to like let myself

541
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: get arrested if I didn't actually steal the money. So

542
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: either he did or he didn't.

543
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 12: You know, fishy fish, are there games that were like

544
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 12: confirmed to be bet on where got shelled?

545
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 13: And I don't know.

546
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 12: I don't know if I looked up into it too deeply,

547
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 12: but like it.

548
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: Just I don't know about that. But the guy's now being.

549
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure because if they have proof that he

550
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: bet on baseball, he's never going to play again.

551
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: Well, oh, TONI, but what about if the interpreter bet

552
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: on baseball.

553
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 11: Oh that's different, right, Yeah, that's where the lines.

554
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I had thought I read.

555
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 13: I thought, I thought I read.

556
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 12: I'll confirm this a little bit, but I had thought

557
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 12: I saw something about games being bet on by the.

558
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 13: That's that's why.

559
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 2: You can't do that. But like, the guy's now being

560
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: accused of being a thief, so he should be arrested.

561
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: And if he goes to jail, then that's probably true

562
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: and Tani will be off the hook. But if he

563
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden flips, we got this story's got legs.

564
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: If that's the case, jail, and there's gonna be there's

565
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 3: gonna be legs.

566
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 9: You know.

567
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: I don't know what what happened, but his story is,

568
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: in my opinion, not believable. Like his story his statement

569
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: yesterday is not believable.

570
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 14: No, I think he's a degenerate gambler, and I think

571
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 14: they were.

572
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: Well that that will be the worst case. Now I

573
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: think the best case for him would be that it

574
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: is the interpreter who is doing all the gambling, and

575
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: maybe he didn't know that he was doing it in

576
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: the first place. This is best case scenario for a time.

577
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: And then he and then he needed to get bailed out,

578
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: and then you know, he's he's bailing him out, then

579
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: realizing well, it's just as illegal the way I'm bailing

580
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: him out. I'm wiring money to you know, like all

581
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: this stuff. And now he's walking away from the guy.

582
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: But more likely he knew all along. The worst worst case,

583
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: as Alex, is the guy's betting and he knows he's betting,

584
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: and now he's maybe I think.

585
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 12: How do you steal that much money without having Why

586
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 12: would one why does your translator have access to any

587
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 12: of your bank information to steal that money.

588
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 13: It's not like he has that cash lying around.

589
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he couldn't. He could have said, I want

590
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: you to manage my money.

591
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 12: You're translator is the guy, you're you're sho tani and

592
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 12: your financial managers doubling as your.

593
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: Train I mean, he was paying him three hundred grand

594
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: a year to be a translator. So he must have

595
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: been friendly with this guy, right, you would.

596
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: Think, yeah, yeah, that I don't find impossible. But I

597
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: find it impossible that he didn't know these transactions were

598
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: taking place. Yeah, I find that impossible.

599
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Well, you hear all of a lot of times of

600
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: people just getting ripped off by people they trust.

601
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

602
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know. But if the guy's going to

603
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: jail and he didn't do it, he's not going to

604
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: just like go quietly.

605
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 11: Right, He's got a seven hundred million dollar contract that

606
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 11: something might be coming his way if he gets out.

607
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: So oh, maybe you go, you.

608
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: Take the fall. This is the money.

609
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 13: Could we do a couple of years get out here?

610
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 11: That could be Yeah, and we got the basketball player

611
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 11: got caught too. Yeah, Porter's brother.

612
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't know about the hell.

613
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 12: It's just said that there was like a prop bet situation.

614
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 12: He was like the most bet on guy for prop bets.

615
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 11: But he's like a John Porter.

616
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: He's like a friend for the raptor.

617
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 11: And somebody's betting the overs on his three pointers, Like

618
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 11: who's doing that?

619
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Just taking them or making them?

620
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 11: Making them?

621
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 12: And they were cashing right, and like an abnormal amount

622
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 12: of bets putting on being put on this really fringe

623
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 12: player who's really only getting ten minutes a game because

624
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 12: they suck so bad and it's a wire and then

625
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 12: he's leaving games.

626
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, you know, you talk about, like

627
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: what's different now about betting than it used to be.

628
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: I think that these you know, now that it's legal

629
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: and these van duels and draft kings and everything, it's

630
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: on mobile phones and we're finding out about it. It's

631
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: all out there, you know, it's dat.

632
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, the eye Actually that kind of gets to my

633
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: point about I don't know why it's so much worse

634
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: now that it's there's actual data, but you can market

635
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: it every and when something like that. If in other words,

636
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: if that guy's brother was betting through Joey the nose,

637
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: no one would ever know, right.

638
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 11: But so the thing is too it said that over

639
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 11: was like at four three pointers he hit that's the

640
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 11: under hits three and then tells us coach.

641
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 13: Like there's like a nosebleed.

642
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 11: And he's like out or oh, I don't feel what

643
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 11: and then.

644
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 13: The stomach bug or something.

645
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: You had to leave it.

646
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know Fishy the.

647
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Mathe mathing well, so anyway, so we I just thought,

648
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, it's spoiled and it's a big deal.

649
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: Is a big deal.

650
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 12: Here's a difference thof like I noticed with my guy friends,

651
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 12: like my little sister's boyfriend, like casual fans that never

652
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 12: really bet before now degenerates like their girlfriends are like,

653
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 12: I don't know how to get it.

654
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: That's yeah, at that I totally agree with. That's a

655
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: different I'm talking about the impunity of the games.

656
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 16: You know.

657
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: Shaughnessy, you know, is still stripping tubes out of his

658
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: body so he can make fun of Major League Baseball

659
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 3: because of Otani. Like, that's the part I don't get.

660
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: And then I but and then I heard, well, you know,

661
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: wh what does it matter if he's betting with a

662
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: bookie or one of these you know, draft Kings, it

663
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: makes a big deal because if you get into the

664
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: hole with a bookie, they might say, hey, to get out.

665
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: Of the hole.

666
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: I got you, I need you to do something. Draft

667
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: Kings isn't doing that.

668
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: You can't do that. Your money's gone, right, right, do.

669
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 14: You guys see playing for the mob the BC one, Yeah,

670
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 14: that's a good one.

671
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 2: Paul, like that. I do, all right, So let's get

672
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: back to football. Eight five five pass five hundred. It's

673
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: ACE ticket houtline, web radio at patries dot com. Is

674
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: the email address. Anything else we want to put on

675
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: the table before we start opening it up to the listeners.

676
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 13: Toyota.

677
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you what though. If you want to

678
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: see Toyota's best offers, including those not seen on TV,

679
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: go to buy at toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official

680
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: website for deals from the official vehicle of the New

681
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go places.

682
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 11: I'll talk about some of the rule changes that.

683
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we can. We can put that on the table.

684
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: The hip drop band, Yeah, I don't like that. I

685
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: don't like it. I am Here's the thing, you know,

686
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: like you can get hurt in football. You know, I

687
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: don't see that this type of tackle is any more

688
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: dangerous than any others may tell you.

689
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: It's twenty five dangerous.

690
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Is that right?

691
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 11: This tackle, this tackle got created because he got yelled

692
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 11: at for going for the head and getting fined in

693
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 11: flat Well.

694
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Also, like if a guy is like a you know,

695
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: a yard away from the first down marker not going

696
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: to go forward and tackle him, and all of these

697
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: automatically got You're going to try to put your weight

698
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: back to keep him from getting any more yardage. And

699
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: that's the hip tackle. You know, your your body's going

700
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: down and backwards instead of forward driving into the guy.

701
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 11: I mean, what do you if you're a defensive back

702
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 11: and you have Derek Henry running at you full speed,

703
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 11: what are you supposed to do at this point?

704
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: It's not so much coming at you or chasing. It's

705
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: if you're at the side or you're chasing him down.

706
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: If you're in pursuit, you're trying to keep him from

707
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: getting more yardage.

708
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: You know, Well, that to me is the key, the

709
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: key one, like if you know just a key. Third down,

710
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: there's the sticks. You got to get them down somehow

711
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: without moving forward. Is this going to increase now yack

712
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: and yards after contact in general? I think this is

713
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: going to make it really difficult.

714
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 11: You already saw defenders running to shine Away last year.

715
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 11: Josh Allen against the Steelers. I think was he ran

716
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 11: for like a twenty yard touchdown because nobod wanted to

717
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 11: hit him. You're gonna get fined.

718
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: Here's your whole game checks. I don't like this one.

719
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: Patriots fans will go to great lengths to take Josh Allen.

720
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't like this one. Explain to me the kickoff rule.

721
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: What's the new?

722
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 11: It's the XFL one. Paul might know it a bit better.

723
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 11: But the kicker still kicks from the thirty thirty five

724
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 11: and the teams are lined up and you can't move

725
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 11: until the teams are lined up where.

726
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you kick off from your own thirty five

727
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: as normal, but the rest of the kickoff team lines

728
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: up at the opposing thirty five and five yards away

729
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: is the receiving team. Nine of the eleven receiving team.

730
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: Yep.

731
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: So there's ten potential tacklers, nine blockers, all lined up

732
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: within five to ten yards of each other.

733
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 10: Yep.

734
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: There are two returners that are back in the so

735
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: called landing zone. They have to have two returners. The

736
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: ball has to be kicked into on the fly, so

737
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: you can't squib it. You have to kick on the

738
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: fly into the landing area. Or you could choose to

739
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: take a touchback, but touch back goes out if you

740
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: fly it out of the end zone. Yeah, it goes

741
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 3: out to the thirty five right, not the twenty five right,

742
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: So that's.

743
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Three inches three levels of touchback now, but that's an interesting.

744
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: And no one can move until the ball is touched

745
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: in the land.

746
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: In order to get it at the thirty, you have

747
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: to kick it out of the end zone, not into

748
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: the end zone. So you can still kick it into

749
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: the end zone, right, and.

750
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: I believe that's a different level of touch back, right,

751
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: and you.

752
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: Can take a knee and that would still come out

753
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: to the twenty five. H. I don't have the detail

754
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: of that because I know the rules specify out of

755
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: in my notes.

756
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, so mething, I think the Super Bowl didn't have

757
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 11: a single kickoff return right like it was getting.

758
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: Kickoffs would kickoff returns were down to an all time

759
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: low with the you know, the new touchback rules. They

760
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: wanted to do something to put the returns back in

761
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: the game. If you watch some clips of the XFL,

762
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: they show you how it works. The ball is kicked

763
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: and you can't the players can't move until it's either

764
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: caught in the landing zone or touches down in the

765
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: landing zone, which is like the twenty to the to

766
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: the goal line. Yeah, you know, so it prevents the

767
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: long run ups to you know, to collisions, those coitions.

768
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: My prediction, my prediction will be at least in this

769
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: first year until teams really kind of there's going to

770
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: be a lot of longer returns. I think in this

771
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: first year.

772
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: Now I don't think that that was the result in

773
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: the XFL.

774
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Well then not as good.

775
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 11: They got shut down? Is that COVID year? We got

776
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 11: like three goals like last year. Oh they did it

777
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 11: last year.

778
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, yeah, all right, we'll see anyway,

779
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: that's any other change.

780
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 11: Any other rule changes trade trade, it's not real change.

781
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 11: Trade deadline got pushed back.

782
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: Is that official? Yeah, I got pushed back one week,

783
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: week nine, so it got pushed back a week. I

784
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: think that's a good that's a good alteration. There was

785
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: a couple of of things that they want to make

786
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: the play clock expiration reviewable, which I don't like.

787
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh there is another change on the challenges. Yes, that's

788
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: and I like this.

789
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: If you if you get them both right, you get

790
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: you get a third. That's always been the case. Now

791
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: if you get one of the two right, you get

792
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: a third.

793
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: I like that. You shouldn't be penalized for questioning the

794
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: call and being correct. You know you shouldn't lose it.

795
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: No, but you only you only lost it if you

796
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 3: were wrong.

797
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's fine. But if you're right, you lost it

798
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: two in the past.

799
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: Right now, you get it no matter what right or wrong,

800
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: I can't. You just can't be wrong twice.

801
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: I thought you had to be right to get it back.

802
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: No, all right, anyway, No, No, you used to get

803
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: a third one, so you're allowed everybody's everybody's allowed two challenges.

804
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: That's correct.

805
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: If you get them both right before this year, if

806
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: you got them both right, you got to do your

807
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: awarded a third. Now if you get one right and

808
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: one wrong, you're awarded a third. Yeah, that's what we need.

809
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: More stop it, just more replay awesome, No, we need

810
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: better refs. That and they do agree with more better refs.

811
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: And the other thing I like that they change is

812
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: now roughing the quarterback can be reviewed. I did not that.

813
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, I like that needs to be done because there's

814
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 11: some bad ones that happens to the pats too.

815
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so grounding, intentional grounding in quarterback roughing can now

816
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: be reviewed.

817
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 11: Trusting Okay, did they fix the play clock yet?

818
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

819
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 11: I heard rumors of a buzzer being added or a

820
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 11: tenth of.

821
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: The I just I kind of liked what they did.

822
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: I just I and I understand that the inconsistency of

823
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: the way it's it's sort of ruled is the problem.

824
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: But I think with the line of thought several years ago,

825
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: when they changed the timing rules, and it was immediately

826
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 3: after a play the forty second clock starts, they wanted

827
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: to get the games over in three hours. Remember Fred, Yeah,

828
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: but you know, Fred and I are old enough to

829
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: remember when the games used to go on it, right,

830
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: So now they're very conscious of those those TV and

831
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: getting games in in three hours, So they change the

832
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: timing rules, and I think as a result of that,

833
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: there was sort of an unwritten sort of agreement. You know,

834
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: if if it's really really close to you know, if

835
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: it's zero, snap, we're not gonna call delay a game

836
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: every time. We're gonna let that little leeway. But what

837
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: happens is it's zero one two hot snap, you know.

838
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: And now you know, I think they're trying to uniform

839
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: it a little bit. And I think if they go

840
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: letter of the law every time that clock goes to zero,

841
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: it's the lay a game. I think that'll be a

842
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: bad thing. Yeah, I think that it's good that they

843
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: give them a little leeway on that. They just have

844
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more consistent.

845
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: And it's like the reps and basketball doing the five second.

846
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: He's like one, yeah, two right, and you know, yeah,

847
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: it's like that the ten second to get it over

848
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: half court. What saves them is, you know, one guy

849
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: would be like one, two, three and right. But now

850
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: that the shot clock, you will line it up with

851
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: the shot clock in the NBA it's eight seconds, so

852
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: you it's hard for the ref to say, no, no, no,

853
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: I had that at eight. Well, there's like twenty seconds

854
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: on the shock clock. You didn't have that at eight seconds, right,

855
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: you know?

856
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: All right again A five to five past five hundred

857
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: is the A sticket houtline web radio at paches dot

858
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: com is the email address. I see people on the phones,

859
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: but there's no but no names written in Jules Oh.

860
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Line one is Tim from Stowe. All right, Hey Tim

861
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: from Stowe? What's up?

862
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 15: Hey?

863
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 17: I just want to talk about the draft for a

864
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 17: second as it relates to the Calvin Ridley.

865
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, so I read.

866
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 9: It.

867
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 17: I'm Bleacher Report that a big factor for Robert Craft

868
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 17: is that TB situation played.

869
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 15: At the goal.

870
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he mentioned that. He said there could be a

871
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: lot of situation, a lot of factors. One of them

872
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: could be we don't know who our QB is. Yeah,

873
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: he said that. Yeah, what do you think?

874
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 17: And I think, well, I've heard a lot of people say,

875
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 17: you know, we should trade down, Like I read Concerns

876
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 17: article yesterday about trading down an accumulating picks, and I

877
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 17: just against it in the sense that when you look

878
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 17: down the road and you look at the quarterback next year,

879
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 17: they're not that great. I'm sure somebody could come up,

880
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 17: but somebody might not and why take that chance? And

881
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 17: I think, you know, Deon Sanders kid.

882
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tim, the only reason you should be against

883
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: trading down is because you like Drake May and Jayden Daniels.

884
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: That's the only reason why you should be against it.

885
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Tim.

886
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 17: I don't think you're gonna My point is this, I

887
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 17: don't think you're going to get those quarterbacks and in

888
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 17: next year's draft, and now you're just right now it's

889
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 17: a two year thing to find the quarterback. Well, but again,

890
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 17: bands of orientatient Again.

891
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: Forget about next year. If you like one of those two,

892
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: if you like those two guys, you should take one

893
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: of those two guys, because like you said with you, Fred,

894
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: they're not going to be there next year.

895
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: And Tim, it's not about liking them like it's not

896
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: about liking Drake May more than the guys who will

897
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: be available next year. It's liking Drake May enough to

898
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: take him at three.

899
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

900
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: And I agree with Fred. I do I like Daniels

901
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: and May. That's why this this JJ McCarthy nonsense about

902
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: that that could be great for the Patriots. Yeah, because

903
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: now it gives you an option that you didn't have.

904
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: But I would I would take I would take him.

905
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: Like Mayo said on Monday, you know, if we take

906
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: a quarterback at three, that means we're convicted in that pick.

907
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 11: It's big investment. If you like him, take him, you're

908
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 11: at three. You hope you're not here again. Take him?

909
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I will say, but I have to I

910
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: have to like him enough to take Yeah.

911
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 11: I agree.

912
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Now I will say, people looking ahead to next year

913
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: and they, oh, the quarterbacks an't gonna be good. I

914
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: guarantee you there will be a quarterback this in twenty

915
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: twenty four in college will have a great year and

916
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: he will rise up and all of a sudden he'll

917
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: be regarded every bit as much as Jayden Daniels is

918
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: this year.

919
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 3: I'm going to take your bet.

920
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't think a quarterback will rise?

921
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: No, Okay, well someone might rise, but it won't be

922
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: like really good.

923
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah I don't.

924
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: I'll bet you. I'll take that bet.

925
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 17: The last thing I wanted to say, and I'll get off,

926
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 17: is just but my point is that I think both

927
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 17: of those guys are worth the third pick. And I

928
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 17: think it's insanity that what people are saying about Drake

929
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 17: Man if you watched him last year, not that the past,

930
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 17: even that the twenty two to twenty three season. I mean,

931
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 17: it is just so clear that that guy is in

932
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 17: the week town and thinking that he's not worth the

933
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 17: third pick is mind boggling to me. That's insanity.

934
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you would take him, and why

935
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: you should take him, and you and you.

936
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: Would absolutely be convicted in the pick. Yeah, yeah, And

937
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong. I just think that there's

938
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: a lot of people in as you know, I'm keeping track.

939
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people disagree. A lot of people

940
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: think that Drake May can't play.

941
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 11: He's spot on because I mean before Jane Daniels really

942
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 11: hit the scene this year, it was really May and

943
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 11: Williams one and two.

944
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: We didn't know what you Jon Daniels is the example

945
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: of what Fred's talking about. I don't think that happens

946
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: every year. Yeah, it didn't happen the year before that.

947
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: It happens more and more.

948
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett was the only guy taken in the first round.

949
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 11: He did not available the draft. The media loves to

950
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 11: hype up quarterbacks, especially when there's no quarterbacks in the class.

951
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 11: And look what happened with the Malik Willis yere.

952
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: Jules who's online? Three? All right, Jasper, you're up?

953
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 9: Hey, what's up?

954
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 18: Guys?

955
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm hearing myself from this little feedback. Sorry for

956
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 6: making uh these lean years tolerable.

957
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

958
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask just the question about little short

959
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 6: term speculation.

960
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 19: Uh.

961
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: You know how Phil is kind of famous for being

962
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 6: ahead of the curve with personnel maybe play calling. Do

963
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: you see or what do you think is like kind

964
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 6: of next fun new thing the next two to three

965
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: years it's going to take the lead by surprise. I

966
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 6: just want to hear your thoughts, okay, and I didn't

967
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: want to do it.

968
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: Okay, and you'll do it offline.

969
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: What about a draft question?

970
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 11: Oh sorry, do you mean like GB like the Wildcat

971
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 11: fifteen years ago or whatever it was?

972
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I mean, like, what do you think? What

973
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: do you think is the latest thing that took the

974
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: league by storm before we you know, venture to guess

975
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: what will be?

976
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 9: What?

977
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 18: What what is?

978
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: I think it's I think for the NFL, I think

979
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: it's the mobile court, right, guys who can extend plays

980
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: and throw off plain.

981
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: And he was thinking of like things like strategy wise

982
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: that you don't see that you know, come into play.

983
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: You're talking about a style.

984
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 11: Of just like a thing that took over I'd say

985
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 11: moble quarterbacks too. It was like the I think Rogers

986
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 11: kind of started at just the pocket passer and scrambling

987
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 11: outside them.

988
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: Because I was going to ask, but the last thing,

989
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: like you know, he said, Bill was ahead of the

990
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: curve with personnel and play calling. What's going to be

991
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: the next thing? I was going to ask what the

992
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: last thing was? But you guys are taking it and

993
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: I think you're right, like the mobile quarterback who can throw,

994
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, the more dual threat guys seemed to be. Yeah,

995
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 3: definitely more in vogue now than they were ten years ago.

996
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 11: Yeah, i'd say that. And then the tight ends that

997
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 11: are pretty much just receivers Travis Kelcey.

998
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's been going on for a while.

999
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: I think there might be more of them now, but like, yeah,

1000
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: Russ Francis, Tony Gonzalez.

1001
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: Francis could block. Don't make fun of the Patriots. Yeah,

1002
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: don't make fun of Patriots guys. Yeah, every once in

1003
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: a while, we'll get mad at you on social Right now,

1004
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: so what's.

1005
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 2: The next thing? What do you what do you what?

1006
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 2: You know, if you're looking ahead at evolution of the game,

1007
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: what do you think is the next.

1008
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 12: I thought it was so funny after our game that

1009
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 12: schooler kind of jumped the line. Everyone was like, oh

1010
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 12: my god, this is going to revolutionize special teams now,

1011
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 12: and then it just didn't happen.

1012
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: It was just that one moment. Now, do you have

1013
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: in order to really see the future, do you have

1014
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: to look at college or even you know, pop, you know,

1015
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: even high school? Do you have to look at what's

1016
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: going on there to kind of figure out what might

1017
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: happen with the pros, because that's where the talent's coming from.

1018
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to that, and I would

1019
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: put things like the smaller mobile linebackers. You know, it's

1020
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 3: kind of a thing that you saw in college. It's

1021
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: like two hundred and thirty pound linebackers, which you never

1022
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: would have seen ten years ago, fifteen years ago. Now

1023
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 3: there's more guys like that, you know, bro Kwon Smith,

1024
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen, you know, those kinds of guys that are

1025
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: a little bit yep undersized for the position, but they

1026
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: get by because well, who was athletic?

1027
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Who was I I heard on the radio, I forget

1028
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 2: which station, was a former player and he was saying

1029
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of the former players now that have

1030
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: kids or even grandkids that are playing and they're really

1031
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: good athletes, they're telling them, don't be a receiver, be

1032
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: a cornerback, you know, because you go to these camps

1033
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: and they'll be like twenty kids trying to be a receiver,

1034
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: and there's five kids that want to be cornerback, and

1035
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: there's a lot if you're really good, there's a lot

1036
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: better chance for you to make it as a cornerback

1037
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: numbers wise than a wide receiver these days, So a

1038
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: lot that's interesting. You hear that your clinic, No, no, no,

1039
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: I heard it on the radio. So like Sante Samuel's,

1040
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: you know, like a lot of these sons and grandsons

1041
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: of players are cornerbacks these days. Interesting, you know, because

1042
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: their their father is smart and you get more reps.

1043
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I mean those guys I'm thinking of

1044
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: like Winfield Senie, but those their fathers were defensive backs too.

1045
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1046
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 11: I keep going back to the hip drop tackle. I

1047
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 11: just want to see how that's going to change, how

1048
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 11: defense is well prepared. I guarantee it's gonna be was

1049
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 11: that a hip drop or wasn't it a hip drop? So,

1050
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 11: and there'll be a whole thing about interpreting what is it.

1051
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. Like I've watched they

1052
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: put out film, you know, there's a lot of reels

1053
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: of these hits, and I'm and I'm like looking, I

1054
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: was like, what's the difference between that one? And like

1055
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: they're supposedly showing you good and bad. Yeah, And I'm like,

1056
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't really see a lot of difference of.

1057
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 11: The screen grab of what they showed at the owners meeting,

1058
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 11: be like this is banned now, and I'm like, that

1059
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 11: is a form tackle. So what are we gonna do here?

1060
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: Can't hit them high, can't hit them low, can't hit

1061
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: him in the middle.

1062
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 11: And then play somebody's somebody is gonna blow their knee

1063
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 11: out like Hawkinson did, and the player is gonna ge

1064
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 11: labeled a dirty player, and then that defender is gonna

1065
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 11: be like, what am I supposed to do?

1066
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: The next one is you can't pull from the pants

1067
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: from behind because you might show his ass. Get this,

1068
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: get the flags. I know.

1069
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: So that's a point on the NFL side. The horse collar. Yeah,

1070
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: I mean that that was a human cry.

1071
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I can't understand that one.

1072
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 3: But but at the time, everybody's like, what are you

1073
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: going to do. You're chasing the guy down, you can't grab.

1074
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 3: But I think when you start stacking these things together. Yeah,

1075
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: So they said that's a dangerous play. You grab a

1076
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: guy by the name plate, you pull him backwards. It

1077
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: was causing leg problems, ankle injuries, high ankle sprains. Right,

1078
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: So we took that out. Now, what's your recourse if

1079
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: you're chasing the guy from behind? You it's a shoe

1080
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: string tackle and that's it. I just have to dive

1081
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 3: and hope that I trip him. And to your point,

1082
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: if I do trip him, when I'm successful, the guy's

1083
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: getting six extra yards because he's stumbling forward. And you know,

1084
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: so I have no chance to tackle him for no

1085
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: more yards than he's already gotten. But the horse callar

1086
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: thing was definitely big, you know again, Fred, and I

1087
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: rolled enough to remember when this was enacted, like in

1088
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: O five ish, everybody was like, this is gonna be ridiculous.

1089
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna be penalty, and they adjusted. They figured it out.

1090
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: My guess is they'll figure this out too. I just

1091
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: wonder how you're ever going to tackle anybody.

1092
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 11: I also wonder how they're going to enforce it, such like,

1093
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 11: all right, split a split second decision for the defender,

1094
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 11: it's also for the ref So I hope.

1095
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: There sounds like their planners to enforce it in during

1096
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: the week with fines, not necessarily with flags.

1097
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, let's get to some of these emails.

1098
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: Let's see the lot of emails come in. In a

1099
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: lot of emails, Lee says, thank you especially to Paul

1100
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: for pointing out the ridiculous hyping of each signing. It

1101
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: struck me last year that nearly everyone said trading Myers

1102
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: to the Raiders and replacing him with Juju was an upgrade.

1103
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: I think even on the show some tried to say

1104
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: it was a small upgrade. And I couldn't understand why

1105
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: we do this when Myers knew the system. Other than

1106
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: him speaking out seemed to be the reason to let

1107
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: him leave. Can you explain the international path so this

1108
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 2: is a separate thing. First, So, so he's just thanking

1109
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Paul in the first one.

1110
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think more people should do that.

1111
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1112
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Second question is, can you explain the international pathway for me?

1113
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: And how teams select players? Is it separate to the draft?

1114
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: Would we have to pick three players trying to find

1115
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: a team that will open a spot for them? Now,

1116
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: I think the league identifies certain players that they assigned

1117
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: to a team. The team puts them on like I

1118
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: think they at least have to put them on the

1119
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: practice squad.

1120
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 11: There's something with the roster spot, right.

1121
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, for two years, it doesn't count against Yeah, but

1122
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: if you make the team it counts.

1123
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you can you know after two years,

1124
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: you know, for two years, it doesn't count, and then

1125
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: after two years you can elect to keep them. Or

1126
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: we had John's we signed it. He played after that,

1127
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: he earned, you know, a legitimate roster squad.

1128
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 11: There are two rugby players from Fiji. I think that

1129
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 11: are making some noise. So yeah, that's probably where it

1130
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 11: comes up from.

1131
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 3: This is my life. Rugby players from Fiji.

1132
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 11: They know to tackle, though well, I don't know.

1133
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: It might not.

1134
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 2: Travis in West Virginia I wrote in last week complaining

1135
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 2: that every show is the same because you just keep

1136
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: talking about the same subjects over and over. That is

1137
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 2: groundhog Day. The best part is that Fred actually read

1138
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: my email and offered an explanation, was quite gracious about it.

1139
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: You could have just told me to f off or

1140
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: not even read the email in the first place. So

1141
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. I'm glad you just h just

1142
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: don't read the butt kissing emails, you know. Yeah, like I,

1143
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: we're talking about the draft a lot. Yeah there's a

1144
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: lot because we have the third pick. We haven't had that.

1145
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 3: But do you feel I'm not suggesting that we shouldn't

1146
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: be talking about it, because obviously that's the number one thing,

1147
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: But don't you feel like there's a little bit of

1148
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: like fatigue on that, like are they going to take

1149
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: the quarterback? Well, if they like the one, yeah, which one?

1150
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: Which one do you like?

1151
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: We do get asked the same question over and over again,

1152
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: and I get it.

1153
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: I do too. It's just it makes for I think, yeah,

1154
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: kind of some the not least.

1155
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 11: Shows some new stuff's coming up, because like the airs

1156
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 11: got rid of field, so Caleb's locked in there and

1157
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 11: now we got JJ McCarthy rising up to the top.

1158
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: So that might but to me, it's all the same,

1159
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: which quarterback do you like? Which one do you think?

1160
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 13: Quarter favorite the season?

1161
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 3: I don't know, It's not like that all the time.

1162
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: It's exciting to have the third pick, but I think

1163
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: the excitement is which quarterback are you going to take?

1164
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 3: And now at this point it's can we just get

1165
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: to April Weeber and pick one?

1166
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: It's twelve fifty two, so I think we've talked about

1167
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: draft for like five minutes so far this show. I

1168
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: mean we've talked about it.

1169
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: What I'm talking about. This has been our show since November. Yeah, okay,

1170
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: And like that's like you will making.

1171
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: Fun of me, Welcome to four and thirteen.

1172
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: But fred, I didn't say that we should have a

1173
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: different show. We shouldn't. I mean, this is like, this

1174
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: is our show, like we have the third pick. Robert

1175
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 3: Kraft has made it at that comment many times. They've

1176
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: never been in this spot. Yeah, like, so what else

1177
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: are you going to talk about other than what are

1178
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: you going to do with the third overall pick? Ron,

1179
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: I feel like it has been a little monotonous.

1180
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: Ron and Conway knew Hampshire as I listened to your

1181
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: show today. I as a forty plus year old fan

1182
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: or forty plus year fan, not forty year old. He's

1183
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: been a fan for over forty years, and one of

1184
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: the fans who is anxious to see what this year brings.

1185
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: In fact, I haven't been this excited since nineteen ninety three.

1186
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: I agree all this negativity for media people like Greg

1187
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: Bernard Felger, Maz and a few more too, is downright disrespectful.

1188
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that no one's opinion doesn't matter, but

1189
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: you kind of are. But geez, it's a total freaking

1190
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: rebuild from the ground up. Take a friggin pill and relax.

1191
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: As far as being a disaster, that's a force we

1192
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: haven't even assembled an entire team. Yet it's crap like

1193
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: this that causes certain media journalists. I'm a bad put

1194
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: to put them in a bad light. I don't know.

1195
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: And as far as Mayo, he's speaking like a player,

1196
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: not a coach, simply because he's never done it anyway,

1197
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: just my opinion, which matters little. I'm not sure Fred,

1198
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: how you, Paul Evan and Douce and your entire crew

1199
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: of the show do it every day. As far as

1200
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: free agents, to be honest, free agents want either big

1201
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: money or big chasers or both. Ridlely didn't want to

1202
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: be here for total rebuild. Have a great day, Okay,

1203
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: that's fine, Todd says, labeling the team of disaster as

1204
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: this subject line. The media will talk this way because

1205
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: negativity sells, gets ratings, and sparks opinions and responses. On

1206
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: the talk shows very rarely talk extensively. They I do

1207
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: know something about when things are good. You got to

1208
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: proofread your emails.

1209
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 3: I would tell people to go back to like the

1210
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: mid two thousands and tell me the ratings compared to

1211
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: now when they were winning the titles on every sport, right,

1212
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 3: don't tell me negativity is the only thing that sells right.

1213
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Well, back then it was defend the wall. No, but

1214
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, oh, you attack anyone that comes after.

1215
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 3: The ratings in this area for sports are enormous. Yeah,

1216
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: this is a very passionate sports base. Positive negative in between.

1217
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: It's people don't think that, you know, and I'm not

1218
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: speaking for everybody, Like maybe Andrew Callahan. I didn't Evidently

1219
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: he wrote something today it's really negative because I heard

1220
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: from somebody within the organization asking me if I had

1221
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: seen it. I didn't, so I'm not aware of what

1222
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: he wrote. Maybe he does it for what Alex is saying,

1223
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he's looking to get that negative reaction

1224
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: and he's trying to play that role.

1225
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: But well, you can talk.

1226
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 12: About when days when times were good and the ratings

1227
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 12: were great too, but like we've never had really up

1228
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 12: and since like what twenty fourteen ish, where narratives can

1229
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 12: really be created on social media and like a lot

1230
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 12: of people they just read what they see on Twitter

1231
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 12: and that's what they think is going on with the team.

1232
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 12: Less people are actually reading full stories.

1233
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Speaker 3: Less people are like that that I coheartedly agree with,

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Speaker 13: It's never been more dumbed down for people.

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Speaker 2: Everybody?

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Speaker 12: Head coach Gerardmeo address the media yesterday at the NFL's

1271
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 12: annual league meetings in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what he had to say, fire.

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Speaker 10: Away, Maybe just start with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is there a clarity that you would begin.

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Speaker 10: With you will begin with? Is free agency?

1276
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 20: Obviously the media of the fans, everyone wants that big uh,

1277
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 20: that big signing. But at the same time, as we

1278
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 20: continue to put this team together, I think there's there

1279
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 20: has to be a process. It has to be a

1280
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 20: methodical process. And look, when when there is a guy

1281
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 20: that we want to get the Crafts have already told us,

1282
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 20: like they'll spend a minute, and I would say offensively,

1283
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 20: this year, we were very picky as far as the

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00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 20: players that we were as far as the players that

1285
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 20: we were getting. Uh And at the same time, that

1286
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 20: wasn't really a deep offensive free agent class even make

1287
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 20: that type of splash.

1288
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 10: Now what I'm saying that there, you know, the draft

1289
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 10: is coming up.

1290
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 20: There will still be conversations as far as trades and

1291
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 20: things like that, and guys will be released.

1292
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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 10: So this is a process that's gonna go on all

1294
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Speaker 10: the way until.

1295
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: After the draft.

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 21: Is it frustrating all to have the conversation, well, we're

1297
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Speaker 21: gonna do a number of things to weaponize the office,

1298
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 21: and then get to the store and say, well, the

1299
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Speaker 21: shelves aren't really stuck with the things we need.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it is frustrating, But at the same time, I

1301
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Speaker 20: think one of the number one priorities we had was

1302
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Speaker 20: to sign our players back. And I think, you know,

1303
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 20: it's not a popular pick to sign an offensive lineman

1304
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Speaker 20: to a big deal, but at the same time, he's

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Speaker 20: a critical piece.

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Speaker 10: To our team.

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Speaker 20: But we want to take care of our own and

1308
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Speaker 20: I think that was really the strategy going into it.

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Speaker 20: We did have targets that we wanted that it just

1310
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 20: didn't work out. But when it's all said and done,

1311
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 20: we want guys that want to be a part of

1312
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 20: this process, want to be a part of the next

1313
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 20: chapter in New England history.

1314
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: A lot of people would have.

1315
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 10: Sort of clung onto your statement about burning some cash.

1316
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 20: Do you regret that? No, I don't regret it. Look,

1317
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 20: I'm a first year head coach. I didn't mean like,

1318
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 20: burn some cash. I know we have a lot of

1319
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 20: cash to utilize, but we are going to utilize it

1320
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 20: the right way. We have to be very convicted when

1321
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 20: we do spend that cash. But ownership has done a

1322
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 20: good job just letting Elliott and I know that we

1323
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 20: have the cash to spend, just try to spend it smart.

1324
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 9: Good.

1325
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 15: When you look at your team, do you consider it

1326
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 15: a four win team or Bill ourselves would say you

1327
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 15: are what your record says you are.

1328
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, honestly, this team is gonna look different

1329
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 10: than last year's team, even though even if you were

1330
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 10: to look.

1331
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 20: At last year, I would say there were opportunities to

1332
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 20: win more than four games and we just fell short.

1333
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 10: Look, we'll see as the team continues to come together.

1334
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 20: How many wins, I can't give you a prediction on

1335
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 20: how many wins we'll have, but what I will say

1336
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 20: is that we'll put a competitive team out there on

1337
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 20: the field and look not only on the field, but

1338
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 20: also off the field.

1339
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 10: And that's what we're trying to do here.

1340
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: And the man, when you look the roster, it looks

1341
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: like there's still some needs a quarterback, tack on, wide receiver.

1342
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: Are you confident you guys can still fill those before

1343
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 3: the season.

1344
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 20: I'm confident that yeah, we can absolutely fill those roles.

1345
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 20: And saying that though it's gonna take time, it's gonna

1346
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 20: take time. Look our philosophy as far as putting this

1347
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 20: this roster together, Look, you want to draft and develop.

1348
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 10: When it's all said and done, you want to draft

1349
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 10: and develop. And I have one hundred percent of confidence and.

1350
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 20: Elliott and his staff weaponizing the offense and really getting

1351
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 20: us better as an overall team. I know everyone wants

1352
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 20: to talk about the offense, but one thing that you

1353
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 20: guys have heard from BB and that I've learned from

1354
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 20: Bill was you know, just that all three phases are

1355
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 20: very important, and playing that complimentary football is definitely something

1356
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 20: that Elliott understands.

1357
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 10: I understand and the rest.

1358
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: Of the staff. How many pressure at this draft class?

1359
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 10: Talking about filling needs.

1360
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: You know, left tack will receive a quarterback.

1361
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 4: Those are three big needs that can be tough to fill.

1362
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: You know how much pressure is on this twenty four class.

1363
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 20: Honestly, I don't feel those three positions that you just

1364
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 20: spoke of. I would say this draft has quite a

1365
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 20: few guys that can fill those roles. And look, we

1366
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 20: had we sit at a very enviable spot at number

1367
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 20: three where we could take someone at three or you know,

1368
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 20: if someone offers a bag, as we would say, you

1369
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 20: know a lot, you know, a lot of first round picks.

1370
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 20: We definitely have to, you know, talk about those things

1371
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 20: as we continue to put together this team.

1372
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 10: You said it, there are holes on this team.

1373
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 20: But also but I would also say there will be

1374
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 20: people available going forward to feel those own.

1375
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: Sorry, so just to confirm you guys that are open

1376
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: to trading number three and Elliott not being here, does

1377
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 3: that complicate matters all?

1378
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 10: The crazy thing? Look, we are open, We're open to

1379
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 10: you know, trading the pick. We're open to taking a

1380
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 10: guy there. And look, the crazy thing is there we

1381
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 10: have telephones. At this point, Elliott didn't come because he's

1382
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 10: doing a lot of work back home.

1383
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 20: And I don't say that to be disrespectful, but what

1384
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 20: I would say is, uh, he's he's doing a lot.

1385
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 20: He's working, and his staff is working through the weekends,

1386
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 20: and honestly, I would rather be doing that than be

1387
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 20: sitting here.

1388
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 22: When you look at how Max's tenure with the Patriots ended,

1389
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 22: what did you learn from that experience and what sort

1390
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 22: of things will you apply as you look forward to

1391
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 22: potentially dropping another order?

1392
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, you know, mac Jones came in, UH

1393
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 20: had a lot of success early on. We always talk

1394
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 20: about that jump from year one to year two and

1395
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 20: how significant uh that year is or that bridge is

1396
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 20: the year two, and I would say it was a

1397
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 20: combination of things, you know.

1398
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 10: That really kind of hindered that growth in the second year.

1399
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 20: One thing I did learn about that that process was

1400
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 20: as you continue to develop a quarterback, it's not only

1401
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 20: the players you put around them, but also the coaches

1402
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 20: that you put around this guy.

1403
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 10: Not only the coaches, but it can go all the.

1404
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 20: Way to the ops, scenes and things like that to

1405
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 20: support a guy who plays the you know, most most

1406
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 20: important position in sports, and to ask him as a

1407
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 20: rookie to come in it's always going to be tough.

1408
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 20: And then you get the year two, you want to

1409
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 20: see that jump. You get the year three, you would

1410
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 20: want to see success like this, you know, just straight line,

1411
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 20: But realistically that's not what it is. It's like a

1412
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 20: bunch of ups and downs. And I think just supporting

1413
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 20: a quarterback is one of the biggest things. And I

1414
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 20: would also say this, you gotta bring a guy like Jacobean. Look,

1415
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 20: he's definitely a starter in this league. And I would

1416
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 20: also say it's a good mentor to quarterbacks.

1417
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 11: Across the road.

1418
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 22: Do you feel do you feel that the roster and

1419
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 22: the staff as currently constructed as ready to support a rookie.

1420
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 10: Quarterback one hundred percent. I feel very good about the

1421
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 10: staff that we have.

1422
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 20: We have guys go TC, TC and AVP and Evan McAdoo,

1423
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 20: all guys that bring a certain skill set to the

1424
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 20: quarterback position.

1425
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 10: Now the balance is, look, he needs to hear that

1426
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 10: one voice.

1427
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 20: And what happens sometimes with younger quarterbacks they have their

1428
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 20: quarterback guru, they have their coach, their quarterback coach.

1429
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 10: Most offensive coordinators are quarterback coaches.

1430
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 20: So look, those guys have worked together in the past

1431
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 20: and they're on the same page to support any quarterback

1432
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 20: that we bring him.

1433
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 10: What do you like Drake May in the time he's

1434
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 10: spent with him?

1435
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, Drake May had a fantastic interview at the combine.

1436
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 20: He brings a lot of energy. You can tell he

1437
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 20: has that leadership ability. And you know, also the exciting

1438
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 20: part about a guy like Drake May is the ceiling,

1439
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 20: Like there is really no ceiling with a guy like

1440
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 20: that now and saying that when we're trying to put

1441
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 20: together this roster, I know a lot of people look

1442
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 20: at the ceiling, but you also got to kind of

1443
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 20: see how low is the floor, how low is the floor?

1444
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 20: And I would say a guy like Drake May, he

1445
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 20: has a lot of room to grow.

1446
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 10: He's a young guy.

1447
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 20: Honestly, he hasn't played football nearly as much as these

1448
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 20: other guys. So that's definitely something that we that we've

1449
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 20: looked at. But he definitely is going to develop.

1450
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 21: But in keeping with that, when you're at three overall

1451
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 21: and it's a draft like it is this year, you

1452
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 21: could have an opportunity to instead of having a guy

1453
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 21: with a high ceiling who might need work even though

1454
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 21: he's really good.

1455
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: You could move down and hit two other spots in

1456
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: the first round, wide receiver.

1457
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 9: Left tackle.

1458
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 10: That's right, that you know.

1459
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 20: I know everyone likes to think they have the special

1460
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 20: formula they're picking players, but honestly, the guaranteed way to

1461
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 20: win is to accumulate more picks. And so if we

1462
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 20: don't feel convicted at number three, to your point, like,

1463
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 20: we are willing to.

1464
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 10: Do that as well.

1465
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 23: Since we asked you about Frake manfood, we also have

1466
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 23: to ask you about you Daniels.

1467
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 10: Have you met with him?

1468
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: What was it like?

1469
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: What do you think so far?

1470
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, so Jade and Daniels, you know I was on

1471
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 10: the zoom with him. I met him before. Look, those

1472
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 10: guys have pro days coming up here soon.

1473
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 20: So when you think about the process, like when I

1474
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 20: leave here, I'm going to LSU, and then when I

1475
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 20: leave LSU, I'm going to Carolina before I get back home.

1476
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 20: But you have to do your due diligence. And once again,

1477
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 20: it's not all about me. It's not all about Eliot

1478
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 20: what you guys have heard me say a lot. It's

1479
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 20: about collaboration. And one thing that Alonzo Heismith, one of

1480
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 20: our scouts told me, and I truly believe it. He's

1481
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 20: been doing it for a long time and he said

1482
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 20: all the bad picks that he's seen, it's really been

1483
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 20: where everyone wasn't on the same page. And you would

1484
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 20: hope that, you know, you could get everyone on the

1485
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 20: same page. Coaches and also scouts if you have one

1486
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 20: person you know draft and that's kind of Tip Roder.

1487
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 3: You talked about quarterbacks and the number three pick.

1488
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 2: Do you view that as being a three man racing

1489
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: quarterback or as Gji McCarthy pot of that conversation as well.

1490
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 20: Let me tell you when I first started watching these guys,

1491
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 20: it was that three man race.

1492
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 10: And now as you continue to you know, what are

1493
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 10: these uh?

1494
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 20: You know then are the pro days and bring guys

1495
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 20: in on the thirty visits and having time uh to

1496
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 20: spend with those guys, so really get to know what

1497
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 20: makes them tick. I mean, it's about five guys honestly

1498
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 20: that could come in and be a solid quarterback.

1499
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: In the future.

1500
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 10: You're the head coach, you're gonna have to.

1501
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 24: Say when someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, oh no,

1502
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 24: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1503
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 24: everybody could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1504
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 24: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1505
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

1506
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 11: History.

1507
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm going to push back here on everybody.

1508
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: What what?

1509
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: What does everybody have against Robbie Anderson?

1510
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: He's never made an important catch in his career, like

1511
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 3: against us, he's done well when oh.

1512
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: I remember a game and is a bellot too?

1513
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 3: Don't makee me go to my phone, Deuce, you have

1514
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: a computer there?

1515
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: Answer.

1516
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: He's a thoroughly average player.

1517
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: Who yeah, is he's like a David Gibbons type, isn't he?

1518
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have no interest in David Gibbons right now?

1519
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, right now.

1520
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 3: But they need a number one receiver. David Gibbons isn't there.

1521
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: And I don't think Robbie Anderson is either.

1522
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 8: No, no, But that's why I'm not interested. Though he's

1523
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 8: not going to get number one money, of course he is.

1524
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 8: You think that's what he makes? Why do you think

1525
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 8: he's on the block? Okay, so you guys want to

1526
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 8: hear about thanks for the understanding. Oh yeah, please do.

1527
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,480
Speaker 8: Because I have the prolific career. There was one reasonably

1528
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 8: good game.

1529
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 25: There was one reasonly the game where he was targeted

1530
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 25: twelve times and had four catches for seventies.

1531
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the Apex right.

1532
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 25: Here we go, two for thirty four, none for none,

1533
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 25: one for two, three for twenty four, three for eleven,

1534
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 25: one for ten, and one for two.

1535
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: He is zero to nine career against the Patriots. He's had.

1536
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm thinking of Waynekrebet. That's another great moment from.

1537
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 3: All right, friend's ability to just move on. Turn the pay.

1538
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: Back here and Patriots on filtered eighty five, five past

1539
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 2: five hundred is the ace ticket hotline Alex has left us.

1540
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: Yes, she's got things to do, get things.

1541
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: Okay, it's matistia my.

1542
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: Wrong show too. I told her.

1543
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1544
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 11: During that addition, the most folded.

1545
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: That's the most. That's the most I've heard her talk.

1546
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: So maybe it was all it's all because of Evan.

1547
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: When Evan's here, no one else talks about.

1548
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of oxygen when Evan's here. So

1549
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: Tree Hugger in Oregon rights in haven't heard from him

1550
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: in a while. Hugger Gerard Mayo told the Patriot's nation

1551
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: to be patient. Does that mean one we are picking

1552
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 2: a QB at three, but we aren't going to just

1553
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: throw him to the wolves. He may sit out the

1554
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 2: bulk of the season or two. We are trading down

1555
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 2: and building talent at tackle and wide receiver this year.

1556
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: We'll get our quarterback of the future next year. I

1557
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: don't know why it has to be either one of.

1558
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 3: Those I don't think it means either one of those things.

1559
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 3: I agree. I think it means like we're not we

1560
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: went four and thirteen, probably not going to go thirteen

1561
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 3: and four in the first year. Yeah, I'm patient, We're

1562
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: going to try to build it. I take exception to

1563
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 3: some of the phrases like the one that he used,

1564
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: just say the right way right, like that kind of

1565
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: you know, like what what's the right way?

1566
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1567
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 3: And why and anybody who doesn't do it that way?

1568
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: Why are they not doing it the right way?

1569
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 2: I think what he means is we're not going to

1570
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: force anything. You don't know what other teams are going

1571
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: to do too.

1572
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: And that affects what you do. And so my point

1573
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: is whatever way you choose to do it, does it

1574
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: make it right or wrong. It's the way you choose

1575
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 3: to do it, you know what I mean.

1576
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 2: Yep, he has a question for Evan, which I won't

1577
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: read because Evan is not here, Neil writes in or

1578
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: actually he says Neil.

1579
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 3: But it makes you think I couldn't talk about the

1580
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: week side linebacker. You out of the whack.

1581
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,879
Speaker 2: It's Jeffrey from Canada. There's no reason to debate Mayor Daniels.

1582
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: That's probably a big topic on Commanders Talk weekly. But

1583
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: the Patriots are getting who the Commanders don't take that.

1584
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: That's thanks to that lovely, meaningless win on Christmas Eve

1585
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 2: that we were all told we should enjoy because the

1586
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: real fans don't cheer for losses. I was not a

1587
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 2: real fan that night. I wanted them to lose and

1588
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: get to pick their quarterback. I don't fault the team

1589
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: for competing. I just wish the Broncos could have pulled

1590
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 2: off the comeback.

1591
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: That's why I get it.

1592
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: If I get that, that's why if I'm the Patriots GM,

1593
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: I take a fair trade back if possible, or take

1594
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 2: best player on your board who's available. If that's the

1595
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: third quarterback, fine, but if it's a left tackle, a

1596
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: wide receiver, stick to your board and take that player.

1597
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 2: Don't reach. We're building from ground up. And quarterback is important,

1598
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: no doubt, but it's not the only piece needed.

1599
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 3: I get the mentality of, you know, you want a

1600
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 3: couple of games down the stretch, and it costs you

1601
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: a spot you could have gotten two instead of instead

1602
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: of three. I get that. I understand why some people

1603
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: will be frustrated. But he also answered it. I thought, like,

1604
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: you can't ask them not to compete.

1605
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 11: Like these guys might not be here next year, Like

1606
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 11: they gotta go win, like if a player, I can't

1607
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 11: ask the players to think like that, So have somebody

1608
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 11: take their job potentially, Like the other.

1609
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: Part, like if you want to trade down because you

1610
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 3: want to add picks and do it that way, I think,

1611
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, I've said this many times. I think there's

1612
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 3: a lot of uh, it's a lot, a lot on

1613
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: that side of the ledger to be to be interested

1614
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: in you know, I don't really I don't want to

1615
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: trade down to take a guy instead of taking Drake

1616
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: May at three, I'm going to get someone else or

1617
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 3: Drake May at eleven or someone else at eleven at

1618
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 3: that position like that, Like what's the difference, Like if

1619
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 3: I if I think the quarterbacks good enough to three,

1620
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: he's a little strong. Now, if I can get two

1621
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 3: extra first round picks and then get the same guy,

1622
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 3: that's different. That's different. I'm just talking about the player itself.

1623
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to reach. And if you don't think

1624
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: he's worthy of the third pick, you don't think he's

1625
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: worthy of eleven.

1626
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: Right either. And the other thing that really bothers me

1627
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: is people say, oh, JJ McCarthy, you know, maybe you

1628
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: like him, but you can't take him with the second

1629
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: or third pick. No, if you like him, you take

1630
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: him when he's available, and when you can get him,

1631
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's second, third, fourth, fIF If you

1632
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: like JJ McCarthy and you think he's gonna be your

1633
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, you take him when it's your turn to

1634
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 2: take them. Period.

1635
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: You know that's I see that both sides. I'm not

1636
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: sure on that one because I think the guy, like

1637
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: as recently as a week and a half ago, was

1638
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 3: considered a second round pick.

1639
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but but I'm just saying, like, you

1640
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 2: know all this time, if you know, like you were

1641
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 2: just laying low in the bushes, and even you know

1642
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: two months ago you love JJ McCarthy, you're gonna you

1643
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: should take him whenever you have your first pick.

1644
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 11: What the Bears do with Mitch Trubisky. They made a mistake,

1645
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 11: but they loved him, So take if you love him,

1646
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 11: take it, if you.

1647
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 2: Love him, take him.

1648
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 3: Yes, at that position, I'm trying to think of an

1649
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 3: example that that that fits and Brady doesn't fit. Oh

1650
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 3: that's unfortunately, go ahead, Yeah, all right, we'll go to

1651
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: uh the show screech to a halt again.

1652
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: Mike, Oh hi, Mike, Hi, God, what's happening. Oh, he's

1653
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 2: so sad. He's in Orlando. He's so sad. What's going on?

1654
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 26: He's trying to grind the show to a halt.

1655
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: You know, well, you do a good job, but I

1656
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: don't worry about it.

1657
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: We saw you had a prime, prime position for the

1658
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: owner today.

1659
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 3: You're in a lot of shots, a lot of smiles.

1660
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 3: I saw you in the back.

1661
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1662
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 26: Yeah, that's the goal, you know, just to get get

1663
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 26: as much screen time as possible.

1664
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: I love it, although Heady elbowed you out of the

1665
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 2: way though, Well, Gardi has a prime spot.

1666
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: You can't get that spot on Giard. Yeah, but just

1667
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 3: so you know, Wally pip You got Wally pipped today

1668
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: by by Matis. Yeah, you're out, you're out, you're out top.

1669
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 26: Yeah, I'm not going to do a Wilker didn't said he.

1670
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 9: Can have it.

1671
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: Okay, only only one f bomb drop by ts too,

1672
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 3: that was off air.

1673
01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: So what's what?

1674
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: What we'll get it in post?

1675
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: What's the scuttle beout at the owner's meeting?

1676
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 18: Oh, lots of stuff.

1677
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 26: I mean, you know, I get starting with the Patriots.

1678
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 26: I think you guys have probably been listening a little bit.

1679
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 26: You guys have been covering it. But yeah, the patients thing,

1680
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 26: I mean, that's you know what it is. I think

1681
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 26: they're trying to be methodical. You know, they pointed out,

1682
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 26: you know, they took a swing at Ridley and you know,

1683
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 26: trying to be selective with some of the things that

1684
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 26: they're trying to do. But you know, I think it's

1685
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,560
Speaker 26: it's hard to preach that right now. And you know,

1686
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 26: in talking with some of the other Patriot media members here,

1687
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 26: it's definitely you know, just a lot of vitrioll out

1688
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 26: there from Patriots fans right now. And I think that

1689
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 26: was a big topic of discussion with all the different

1690
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 26: media members that I talked to, you know, just very

1691
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 26: angry people out there.

1692
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 9: So it's sure, it's hard to.

1693
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 26: Go out there preaching patients to these people who you know,

1694
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 26: seemingly have their torture.

1695
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: I remember when Bill was here, people would get angry

1696
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: when they didn't sign anybody in the first ten days

1697
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: of free agency, right, you know, that's nothing new there.

1698
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 3: But but that's a great point, like it's it is

1699
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 3: nothing new, but for some reason it's unfair.

1700
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: But I understand now it's more are urgent because you

1701
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: don't have Tom Brady, You're further away, you have more holes,

1702
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 2: you know.

1703
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: The more hands don't look at it as Gerard Mayo

1704
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: is just starting. Fans are looking at as this is

1705
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 3: year five.

1706
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: Right, right, But when the reporters don't have the mic

1707
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: in their hands or their laptop open, are they as

1708
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: angry as they're coming off at the Patriots so far

1709
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 2: in activity?

1710
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 26: I don't know if angry is the right word. I

1711
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 26: definitely think there are a variety of people that cover

1712
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 26: the team that have kind of passionate takes.

1713
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 16: You know.

1714
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 26: Definitely Tommy current is on the trail of they got

1715
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 26: a trade down, and you know, I respect his dedication

1716
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 26: to that.

1717
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: Well he doesn't like the quarterbacks then, right.

1718
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 26: I guess I mean, you know, I was talking to him,

1719
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 26: you know, beforehand, and then you heard him, you know,

1720
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 26: ask Mayo specifically. They just played it in the cliff

1721
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 26: that you guys are running during during the during halftime there,

1722
01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 26: so you know you could kind of tell what you

1723
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 26: would get that with that. But now I don't sense

1724
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 26: a lot of anger. I just I think that you know,

1725
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 26: people generally seem to understand what they're doing and why

1726
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 26: they're doing it, and I just I think the reaction

1727
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 26: to it is is kind of spurring kind of this

1728
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 26: you know, negative energy that that seems a little bit overwhelming.

1729
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, is the whole thing at debacle because uh Grod

1730
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: Mayo spilled his orange juice because I'm reading.

1731
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 18: That No, but I have to say, I mean I

1732
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 18: I did.

1733
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 26: I did appreciate the Rod kind of doing that and

1734
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 26: then you know, and then he spilled it.

1735
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 9: It just you know, it seemed kind of symbolic of how.

1736
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: Things have gone, not you of the glorious past, and to.

1737
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 26: Say exactly, but you know, I I you know, one

1738
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 26: thing I just wanted to bring up though that I

1739
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 26: thought was interesting today from from Robert was just you know,

1740
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 26: reaffirming that after the draft that they are gonna, you know,

1741
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 26: kind of recalibrate a little bit perhaps, So I just

1742
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 26: I thought that was interesting coming out of the combine

1743
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 26: with Elliott wolf being, you know, saying that he had

1744
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 26: final decisions. I kind of felt like that sign was

1745
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 26: pointing towards he's kind of locked into this spot. But

1746
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 26: you know, I think mister crapf re affirming today that

1747
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 26: you know, they are they are going to take a

1748
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 26: look at things depending on how the draft goes. So

1749
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 26: just that was an interesting nugget I didn't think got

1750
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 26: a lot of play, at least from what I've.

1751
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 9: Seen so far.

1752
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 2: Right, it was interesting in Mayo's thing yesterday. I don't

1753
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 2: know if it was a slip up, but you know

1754
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 2: he said, you know, we don't know what kind of

1755
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 2: GM Elliott's going to be or whatever role he plays,

1756
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: so like he kind of slipped up and said GM

1757
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: when he doesn't really have that title yet.

1758
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 26: Yeah, funny you said that, Fred, because when he was speaking,

1759
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 26: and I could tell that that was he was kind

1760
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 26: of searching for what to call him, and you know,

1761
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 26: you could almost be on his face him calling GM

1762
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 26: and that, you know, saying or whatever he is. You know,

1763
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 26: so it definitely is a little bit awkward. I mean,

1764
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 26: I just it made me think like if the draft

1765
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 26: goes well and you know, there's a good excitement and

1766
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 26: we feel like they hit, you know, maybe they do

1767
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 26: make just make it Elliott Wolf officially.

1768
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting. Like I agree that I think

1769
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: they're gonna reevaluate after the draft in but I wonder, like,

1770
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: what's the criteria by which they're gonna make decisions.

1771
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,719
Speaker 3: Exactly Like they're gonna pick, They're gonna pick eight guys

1772
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna determine on May May third that

1773
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: they were the right eight guys?

1774
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 10: Well?

1775
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: Or is it more like is Robert and Jonathan Kraft

1776
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: gonna be in the war room watching you know? What's

1777
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: the comportman? Like how do they wheel deal? Did they

1778
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: get the upper hand in trades or things like that.

1779
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like what's the criteria because we can't really

1780
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,520
Speaker 2: judge the players.

1781
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 3: Right because and I don't think you can judge that

1782
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 3: stuff either. I mean, if you felt like, to you

1783
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 3: a point, like if you felt like, wow, these guys

1784
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: don't have a clue, they're frazzled right and nervous, like

1785
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 3: that would shine you know, yeah, I guess, but then

1786
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? But like I'm on the

1787
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: phone with Matisa and I'm like, hey, you know, we're

1788
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,839
Speaker 3: thinking about making a move here, you know, and someone's

1789
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 3: on the whiteboard, you know, this round and that round,

1790
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 3: and we're getting good value here. Let's pull the trick

1791
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 3: like you're evaluating off of that.

1792
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah like that.

1793
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Mike. I think it was interesting

1794
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 3: that Robert you know, sort of threw that in there.

1795
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 3: And I do wonder if it's just not final, like

1796
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: this is just like everybody else that does this. These

1797
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: guys are in place because they were already doing all

1798
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: the work, and when the draft is over, they might

1799
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 3: make a change, but to whom or to who? You know, Yeah,

1800
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 3: I think Wolf. I think Wolf is going to stay. Yeah,

1801
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't be surprised if some other guys are gone,

1802
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: like mac Row.

1803
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1804
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 26: I thought Mao's mentioned of Alonso Highsmith yesterday too was interesting.

1805
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 26: We haven't you know, really not a guy that's been

1806
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 26: highlighted a lot, but you know, somebody who has a

1807
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 26: lot of experience with all this stuff. So you know,

1808
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 26: he's one name. I wonder maybe he's you know, in

1809
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 26: the mix for something more significant than he already.

1810
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: Is, perhaps, but interesting.

1811
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 26: You know, I just I keep going back to the

1812
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 26: way they've been talking about it. You know, Robert today saying,

1813
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 26: like the young guys, like, you know, they're being collaborative.

1814
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 26: They you know, it seems like they're all in stinc

1815
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 26: right now. So you know, maybe they do like the

1816
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 26: way it's set up. But I mean, for me, I

1817
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 26: just who else other than Elliott Wolf. I mean, he's

1818
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 26: kind of been groomed for this since he was a kid.

1819
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 26: He's been in the program for a couple of years.

1820
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 26: He's had a chance to assess what's going on. So

1821
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 26: you know, I just think all signs continue to point

1822
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 26: to him.

1823
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think so too. You know, the

1824
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 2: fact that he felt comfortable enough to say I have

1825
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: final say. I mean, yes, that's all you need to

1826
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 2: know right there, right What else any rule change talk?

1827
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we went over what the rule changes are.

1828
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: But like, are people outraged about the hip drop?

1829
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 26: I mean, I think it's a little bit mixed. I

1830
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 26: actually I went and listened to Dan Campbell today, who's

1831
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 26: always entertaining. Of course, as I floated around some of

1832
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 26: the NFC tables, and you know he said he actually

1833
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 26: had his mind change in the in the NFL's presentation

1834
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 26: of it, and you know, he presented both sides of it.

1835
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 26: I mean, you know, the challenge of the defensive players

1836
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 26: having to adjust to this, and I mean I've seen

1837
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 26: plenty of cliffs. I mean, I was sitting there yesterday

1838
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 26: kind of talking to our group being like, you know,

1839
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 26: if there's a guy running time of just out of

1840
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 26: your reach diagonally across you, like you can't grab his race,

1841
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 26: it's really hard. And you know you saw some examples

1842
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 26: of those. But I think it's one of those things

1843
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 26: that's balanced. You know that you have some of the

1844
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 26: players who've been injured, though you know you've saw some

1845
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 26: outrage for them, but I think the coaches, you know,

1846
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 26: tend to understand, and certainly competition Committee wants to try

1847
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 26: to do their best to get rid of it. It's

1848
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 26: just going to come down to how is it legislated

1849
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 26: and are the refs, you know, going to have to

1850
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 26: make these gray area judgment calls. They're saying they want

1851
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 26: it to be clear, and it has you know, like

1852
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 26: a penalty shot in hockey, you have like a certain

1853
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 26: like five things that have to be satisfied. But it's

1854
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 26: just again, you're asking a lot of the refs, and

1855
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 26: we know that it's not always it's not always easy

1856
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 26: to get them for them to get it right and

1857
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 26: under the you know, the fire of an NFL game.

1858
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 26: So I'm kind of intrigued by the NFL kickoff, though

1859
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 26: I haven't seen a lot of outrights by that except

1860
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 26: for maybe certain former Patriots special teamers that have a

1861
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 26: prominent voice on Twitter, But otherwise, I think people are

1862
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 26: kind of interested to see that play potentially become more impactful.

1863
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 26: And I wonder if you know, somebody like Marcus Jones

1864
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 26: coming back, is that yeah, you know, gives the Patriots

1865
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 26: a little bit of a boost.

1866
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. My prediction this year is that you're going to

1867
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: see a lot of I'm going to go the other way,

1868
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: at least for this year until teams figured out, You're

1869
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: going to see a lot of longer returns.

1870
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be very hard to break past. Now,

1871
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 3: they'll be if you do think you're gone, Yeah, but

1872
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be very hard to get

1873
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 3: by ten guys who are already in place to make

1874
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: a tackle ten ten, fifteen, yards away from the ball.

1875
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 11: I wonder if now you'll see some more like if

1876
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 11: people start to break through, if maybe you see some

1877
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 11: more like star players back there. You know, if you

1878
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 11: got a burner back then you might be able to

1879
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 11: break free.

1880
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 2: It might less chance of getting injured. So put him

1881
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: back there.

1882
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 3: I was thinking some opening the door for some trick plays. Yeah,

1883
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, returns, reverses and maybe throwbacks and stuff.

1884
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: I'll bet you if Bill was in the league right

1885
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: now as a coach, he'd be looking at this right now.

1886
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 3: And he fortunately, you're right, he would have spent the

1887
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: whole off season.

1888
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 2: Doing that, but he would come up with some ways.

1889
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: You know, anyway you had any any hobnobbing at night,

1890
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: any like parties with like you know, v v I

1891
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 2: p S.

1892
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 26: Last night was the big party. I would say the

1893
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 26: biggest pop knob was our friend Nicolette, who ran into

1894
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 26: Christian Youth check and basically just jumped on her. She

1895
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 26: was very excited to see her.

1896
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 18: But you know, otherwise, just the usual suspect.

1897
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 26: Talked to mccordy for a little bit last night.

1898
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 18: He was there, you know, no socks.

1899
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 26: I actually got one A point of funny story after this,

1900
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 26: but Matt Smith, you know, saw him and was like,

1901
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 26: you know, what are you doing here? He's like, I

1902
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 26: don't really know. But then one other funny thing that

1903
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 26: that you guys will appreciate was, you know, they have

1904
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 26: the little the little giveaway area, and they had socks

1905
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 26: they had they were given me, like you know, all

1906
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 26: team stocks and like what what kind of stocks do

1907
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 26: you want? I'm like, well, I got to get the

1908
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 26: Patriots stocks. I got two care and you know, I'm

1909
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 26: walking out and I turned to Matt Smith and said, oh, Mat,

1910
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 26: did you get me socks? And he said, no, I'm

1911
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:07,879
Speaker 26: not a Fox.

1912
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 3: Guy, all right, I don't no socks. So I laughed, Yeah,

1913
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: did you get a swap back for for Uncle Paul?

1914
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 15: No?

1915
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, no that's what I got it.

1916
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 10: I got you cover.

1917
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 11: That's okay, bro, that's your speed.

1918
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 26: All a lot of shrimp cocktail, No, no, I'm out friend,

1919
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 26: that's that dandy.

1920
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 16: No.

1921
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 26: We're mostly mostly you know, the brunch at that at

1922
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 26: the hotel and stuff, so kind of eat on the

1923
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 26: fly these days and uh, grab some airport food and

1924
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 26: excited it'll be back tomorrow.

1925
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,520
Speaker 2: You guys gonna take a trip to Disney tonight.

1926
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 26: Just to uh, I'm out. I'm out in about three hours.

1927
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, all right, way back, Well Deuce,

1928
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: we'll see you when you get back here. All right, guys,

1929
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: all right, save travels to Mike. Do so bro come

1930
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: to you from the owners meeting in Orlando?

1931
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, socks. Didn't need any extra socks.

1932
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: You could just look at him my name.

1933
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 7: Sorry, Let's go to Eldred on line three.

1934
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: What's up, Eldred? Oh boy, three people just ran off

1935
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: the road.

1936
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, I just hear it, one old lady.

1937
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 2: Hey. Hey, in all seriousness, I don't want to like

1938
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: bring it down, but like, man, when you read that

1939
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: story about Maryland the bridge, does that like freak you

1940
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: out as someone who's on the road all the time?

1941
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 2: Down when you read the story about the bridge collapsing,

1942
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: did that freak you out as a truck driver?

1943
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, wait, yeah.

1944
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 18: You know, not bring heart, you know, tragedy to it.

1945
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 18: But one of my fellows employee, he was driving in

1946
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 18: kicks as I think, and you went under a bridge

1947
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 18: and it collapsed and they killed him. My god, yeah,

1948
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 18: question question right there with the truck. Yeah, and about

1949
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 18: a couple other people.

1950
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1951
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, so yeah, I get very leurri when they work

1952
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 18: on bridges. I try to get me a ride around

1953
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 18: from away from it.

1954
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, I hear you. I was just thinking

1955
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: about you when I heard that's like Aldred's out there.

1956
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so what do you got question? We

1957
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: have the uh what's what his name?

1958
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 18: Bolden was the was the corner back? He got heard

1959
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 18: of something d he's out for the whole year.

1960
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bolting, Yeah, Isaiah, Yeah, I mean he's still on

1961
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 3: the roster.

1962
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 18: Is this your injured?

1963
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: What made you think of him?

1964
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's still what man you.

1965
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: Think of him?

1966
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 18: Because he was a good He was coming on pretty

1967
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 18: good with him and guns though. I think for the

1968
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 18: outside for the size and the limp and speed, But

1969
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 18: but I don't know, Like he got fox Sporo flu,

1970
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 18: you know, then you ain't see him no more.

1971
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 3: He got that.

1972
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 11: Concussion.

1973
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, the head injury in ten.

1974
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 11: Green Bad canceled the game.

1975
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended the green Bay. Yeah, he was stretchered

1976
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 3: off the field.

1977
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: They were like, that's it, We're done.

1978
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 18: Yeah, the right he did.

1979
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't Yeah, it wasn't a Foxborough flu situation. Yeah,

1980
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: he was hurt.

1981
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 18: Okay, so he's hurt, hurt real bad. So anybody heard

1982
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 18: anything from him injury wise, no recovery.

1983
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: I have not, But I think he got a concussion,

1984
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,639
Speaker 3: so I don't. I mean, so, yeah, I think if

1985
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 3: it was something that was you know, ongoing, we'd know.

1986
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 3: I think I think he'll be part of the off

1987
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: season program and all that's I think that's safe to assume. Yeah,

1988
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 3: April eighth, by the.

1989
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 18: Way, so too. But I always I know it's a

1990
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 18: new year, new era of football, but football is football.

1991
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 18: If you won't take everything out of football, you might

1992
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 18: have kicked the pants off the.

1993
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 3: Guys and gave him play, right, that's where they're going. Yeah,

1994
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: I couldn't get fifty years.

1995
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 18: There's always been a contact sport, even back in the

1996
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 18: forties and the fifties.

1997
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: In the thirties, well it was probably more bad, you know.

1998
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 18: Yeah, hear a whole lot more back then, you know,

1999
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 18: but it was football, you know, just why we like

2000
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 18: playing it back in the day. But it's just too

2001
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 18: many rules. You know, you can't stop defensem doing news

2002
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 18: and offenses doing it.

2003
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: The main defense, right, you know, was not happy, Yes,

2004
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,639
Speaker 3: all right, thanks Elvire Spiggy.

2005
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: You know, back in the turn of the century football

2006
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 2: was such a violent sport that Teddy Roosevelt I think

2007
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: had to they're playing in college, had to step in

2008
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 2: and like say, you got to change sources out.

2009
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well people were dying.

2010
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2011
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 11: No, I agree with him, though, it's uh, it's gonna

2012
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 11: be interesting what the league's like in fifteen years, because

2013
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 11: look how much it's just changed in the past ten

2014
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 11: So how much more can you change?

2015
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 2: So you think they want to keep getting closer to

2016
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: video games? You know, Alex and Mount Holly just wanted

2017
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: to say thank you to Paul for stepping in from

2018
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: two to six yesterday, because if Mike was there to

2019
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 2: talk about Mao's press conference, I think I would have

2020
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 2: destroyed my radio if he threw another tantrum. Not that

2021
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 2: I totally disagree with what Felker complains about, but I

2022
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: am worried about the state of the team next year.

2023
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 2: But the new regime has my patience, to say the least,

2024
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 2: and I'm not freaking the f out every day like him. Also,

2025
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 2: the reason I hate the fact the hip drop tackle

2026
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: got banned is because whenever it inevitably happens on a

2027
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: CBS broadcast with Nance and Romo. We're gonna hear Tony saying,

2028
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, is that a hip drop making that

2029
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a huge It's gonna be a huge

2030
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 2: call in the.

2031
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 11: Game, mahomes first down? What when that happens. Oh, it's

2032
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 11: gonna be in the playoffs and it's gonna be Chiefs

2033
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 11: verse Titans or something and it's gonna ruin a big play.

2034
01:30:58,160 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2035
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's gonna have and all

2036
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 3: the time unless they don't call it. Yeah, like that's

2037
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 3: they've had some sort of emphasis on different areas of

2038
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 3: the rules and they sort of call it a little

2039
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 3: bit and then it goes away like.

2040
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 11: The past interference won a couple of years ago.

2041
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just stuff like that, you know. And

2042
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 3: if that's what ends up happening, then I think it'll

2043
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 3: be fine. I just think it's like I said, I've

2044
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 3: seen some of these videos that they've put out, and

2045
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of different tackles and they're different.

2046
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: A lot of them look different to me, And if

2047
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: they're all going to be judged to be the same,

2048
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: I think people are going to rightly wonder well, why

2049
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 3: was that a penalty and that one isn't because I

2050
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 3: think there's going to be a lot of inconsistency with

2051
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 3: the way it's viewed.

2052
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, David, and Maine says, we fans are disappointed. This

2053
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 2: is the voice of the fan right here, David from Maine.

2054
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 2: We fans are disappointed because we should be doing what

2055
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 2: the Titans are doing. We're kind of in the same

2056
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: boat as the Titans. Although they are a better team,

2057
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: they too have a new coach, new quarterback. Not a

2058
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 2: great team last year. The big difference is that we

2059
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: had way more money than the Titans, but they are

2060
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 2: adding all the talent they can. It's fine, we missed

2061
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: out on Ridley, but going forward we will have to

2062
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 2: pay a suck tax. For now, our magnet needs to

2063
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: be cash. I hope the front office gets that. I

2064
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,840
Speaker 2: know we're big on value and that's great, but we

2065
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 2: can't worry about that now. Pay more now and hopefully

2066
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: pay less later.

2067
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Can I just say I'm going to go

2068
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 3: on the other side here now? And I said that

2069
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 3: I took exception to girod Mao using the phrase We're

2070
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 3: gonna do it the right way.

2071
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 10: Yep.

2072
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 3: I would take just as much exception to the fact

2073
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 3: if Ryan Carthin said we're going out and we're gonna

2074
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 3: add as much talent as we can. We want to

2075
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 3: do it the right way. Right, that's the right way

2076
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: for Tennessee. Tennessee has decided we're gonna get Snead, We're

2077
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 3: gonna get Pollard, we're gonna get Ridley. I don't think

2078
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: there's anything wrong with that. That's what they've decided is

2079
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 3: best for them. Does it make it right? Does it

2080
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 3: mean it's gonna work right?

2081
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: Right?

2082
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 11: They got Hopkins last year went six and eleven.

2083
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:10,520
Speaker 3: Right now, I think what the but the fair comparison

2084
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 3: is they stink, You stink they're being aggressive. You're not. Now,

2085
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean again that one is right. I hate

2086
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 3: when people It used to bother me when Bill did this.

2087
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, like remember Scott Scott Piol. You know, it's

2088
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: not about the best collectory. It's the right fifty three

2089
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 3: and we're not just collecting talent. We believe that this

2090
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 3: is the this is the right way to do. Yeah,

2091
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 3: that's great, that's what you believe. That doesn't mean it's right.

2092
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 3: It's just like when you're proven right, Yeah, by twelve,

2093
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 3: when you had the best, you won.

2094
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 11: Freddy Krueger.

2095
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's it. I mean, like, I just

2096
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 3: hate when people try to tell me that doesn't work,

2097
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 3: this is the way to do it, when I've seen

2098
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 3: in that league so many different ways to build a

2099
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 3: team that have been successful.

2100
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: Christian writes in from North Carolina, Paul put me down

2101
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: for not wanting May. Don't think he was Christian from

2102
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 2: North Carolina. I don't think he will translate to the NFL.

2103
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: Look at when the going got tough for him and

2104
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: how his play was. I have many more reasons to

2105
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 2: Jaden or Caleb are my pick if not trade out

2106
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: Caleb's not having.

2107
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 3: So and you know that where I stand on this

2108
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 3: particular element of Caleb Williams. But so when the going

2109
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 3: went tough for Drake May, he was no good And

2110
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 3: you're all in on Caleb Williams because he definitely showed

2111
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 3: all kinds of composure when the going went tough.

2112
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: Paul finally on my side.

2113
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's ridiculous as you know that

2114
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 3: he will be the number one overall pick and one

2115
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: of you were going to owe me something when he

2116
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 3: goes number one overall.

2117
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 2: Why who doesn't think he's gonna go number one? Wow?

2118
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: I never said he wasn't going number one. People at

2119
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: that time people were saying, oh, he may not be

2120
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 2: number one, But I never said that. No, I didn't.

2121
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 11: I think it's locked in.

2122
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 3: I think it's locked in too. But my point is

2123
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 3: there's psychos like Felgri and Maz out there that are

2124
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 3: completely out on Caleb Williams because he cried absurd and

2125
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 3: and we can't have anything anything to do with Drake

2126
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 3: may because when things got tough he folded. But we

2127
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 3: love Caleb Williams, like.

2128
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 7: Come on spiing fresnow for each of you, Just for

2129
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 7: the record, I love them both, for each of you.

2130
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:39,839
Speaker 2: If you had to add a new way of scoring

2131
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, what would it be, To use an

2132
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 2: alex word. It can manifest in any phase of the game,

2133
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 2: can be a point increase or a deduction, and can

2134
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 2: be worth whatever you want. Be creative.

2135
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 11: The world is listening a new way to score, Like

2136
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 11: why I've won? Sixty yard field goal should be four

2137
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 11: points sixty yard plus?

2138
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one.

2139
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 11: Something like that.

2140
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go, it's like a three point shot in basketball. Yeah,

2141
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 2: if you're if you're hit, get an extra point.

2142
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 11: If you're hitting a field goal sixty plus the yards,

2143
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 11: you get an extra point.

2144
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 3: How about if we go the other way and we

2145
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 3: say any field goal inside of forty yards is only

2146
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: worth two?

2147
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2148
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 9: I like that?

2149
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, or you miss a pat minus two.

2150
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, maybe the the CFL rules where you know,

2151
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: you tackle the guy in the end zone it's a single,

2152
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 3: something like that.

2153
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 11: I like thee Oh no, I like the one they

2154
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 11: added a couple of years ago, the if you block

2155
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 11: a pat and get it back you get the two points.

2156
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, like I like that.

2157
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: What about no more pats? You only can go for

2158
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 2: two at that point?

2159
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 3: You got that's another XFL. That's another XFL one. They

2160
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 3: had three three different extra points, one from the two,

2161
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: one from the ten, and I think one from the fifteen,

2162
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: something like that, and they were worth one, two and

2163
01:36:59,160 --> 01:36:59,679
Speaker 3: three points.

2164
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, it could work. No, I think the best thing

2165
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 11: that the FL did in recent memory was push the

2166
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 11: pat back. Screwed over the pats in twenty fifteen. But

2167
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 11: it's just not a game.

2168
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Weren't we the ones uh yeah pushing for it? Well?

2169
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 11: Probably yeah, Bill thinks.

2170
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 3: Bill thought, you know it wasn't a competitive play.

2171
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think it's for the for the better.

2172
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's fine. I mean I didn't really see

2173
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 3: the need to change it, but it's fine. And now

2174
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 3: to your point, like it's just like anything else, you

2175
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: change it and then it's it's done that way for

2176
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: ten years and you don't even think about it anymore.

2177
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 11: I know, I say, sixty yard field goal, four points,

2178
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 11: change up.

2179
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's as good as anything. I don't really

2180
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 3: have you the email, It doesn't have any No, he

2181
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 3: didn't do jeff any Yeah. I like those kinds of things,

2182
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 3: like just like when Fred and I have our long

2183
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: discussions on why do you need ten yards?

2184
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 2: Re firs down?

2185
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: M Jules?

2186
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 2: Who's online too? All right, Sean, what's up.

2187
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 4: Hey, MTE Paul and Fred? Great to hear from you.

2188
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 4: You know, earlier in the conversation you mentioned trades possible

2189
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,679
Speaker 4: for Higgins and right, but I like Fred was always

2190
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 4: a big fan of Jefferson, from the beginning of hoping

2191
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 4: that they drafted to the course they went.

2192
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:14,759
Speaker 2: To pick before.

2193
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 4: But what do you think it would take to get

2194
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 4: Jefferson now? And would the Patriots be willing to pay

2195
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 4: that kind of stytary because it might be north of

2196
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 4: thirty million a year.

2197
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 2: To get them you need, I think, wouldn't you have

2198
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: to give up a first round pick for him?

2199
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 9: Oh?

2200
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 11: At least yeah, a first, maybe a second or next

2201
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 11: year first.

2202
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: You know, thanks.

2203
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 3: But the thing there is like if this is like

2204
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 3: a flaw, Like so Minnesota has eleven and twenty three,

2205
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,480
Speaker 3: and a lot of people have said, you know, Patriots

2206
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: trade down to eleven, so Minnesota moves up eight spots,

2207
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 3: you get twenty three, maybe you get a first round

2208
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 3: pick next year in Justin Jefferson. Right, Well, if Minnesota

2209
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 3: is going to trade all of that to move up

2210
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,959
Speaker 3: to three, they're gonna do it for what a quarterback?

2211
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2212
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 3: Right right, and you're gonna trade Justin Jefferson.

2213
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 11: Well, it's also like they're saying, I think he's kind

2214
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 11: of he's a trade target because he's unhappy with their

2215
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 11: quarterback situation. So now he's coming here. He's gonna get paid,

2216
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 11: but he's gonna be pretty miserable.

2217
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: Right.

2218
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 3: No, But what I'm saying is why would Minnesota, Like

2219
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 3: I understand why Minnesota wild trade him. He's in the

2220
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: last year of his deal. They want to get something.

2221
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 11: For him, but then he get the quarterback.

2222
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 3: But they're aggressively trying to get a quarterback. I would

2223
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 3: think to help convince him to sign to stay and

2224
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 3: give the new quarterback someone to throw to. So I

2225
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 3: don't know if that works. Justin Jefferson is the one

2226
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 3: I would take over the others too. I'm with Sean.

2227
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 3: I think he's right, but I think no. To answer

2228
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 3: the question what I think, do I think the Patriots

2229
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 3: would pay him north of thirty million a year?

2230
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't how. Wright's in born and mass grew

2231
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: up in Maine, longtime Pagries fan, now stuck on the

2232
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 2: surface of the sun in Phoenix. Here are my thoughts,

2233
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 2: he says, regardless of which quarterback the Patriots take, the

2234
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 2: offense goes nowhere without a solid offensive line. Well the Patriots, well,

2235
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 2: the Patriots boast of those positions, while the new quarterback

2236
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: learns the offense. I think back at Bert Jones and

2237
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 2: the Colts, who had no line and thus his career

2238
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 2: was cut short. Second, wasn't mac Jones worth more than

2239
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 2: some six round pick? Or was that all the Patriots

2240
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 2: could get for him?

2241
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 3: That's all they could get it.

2242
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: And lastly, is Zeke still in the backfield this year?

2243
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 2: I haven't been following as I'm getting revved up for

2244
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: the Red Sox.

2245
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 11: He's free agent.

2246
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Zeke is unsigned.

2247
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,360
Speaker 11: He's still available, and I'm pretty sure if he gets

2248
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 11: signed somewhere will be around the same time he signed here.

2249
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 11: That's kind of the way to running back market is now.

2250
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 3: Well plus for veterans like that, they're not really looking

2251
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: to do all that work. They'll work out on their own.

2252
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2253
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 11: I think he's ring Jason now at this point. He's

2254
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 11: made his got his big contract on Oh maybe Kansas

2255
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 11: City something like that. We'll see, Yeah, in August.

2256
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 3: That would make sense.

2257
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:08,600
Speaker 2: Longino from Jersey, I just want to say that it's ridiculous.

2258
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous how we're getting so close to the draft

2259
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 2: and how negative comments people are saying about Drake May.

2260
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how he's going to turn out, but

2261
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 2: I'd rather get him if we could and turn into

2262
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 2: a bus than not get him and he'd be in

2263
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: all pro on another team. It sucks to be in

2264
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 2: this situation, but hopefully we get it right and not

2265
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 2: go through another QB carousel. Who's this Longino from Jersey.

2266
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: So that's that's the prototypical PU argument right there. That's

2267
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 3: a debate, right, would you rather pick him and have

2268
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 3: him be a bust or not pick him, have him

2269
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 3: go later and turn into an all pro.

2270
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 2: I'd rather take the shot and have him be a bust.

2271
01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 11: Me too, Yeah, yeah, agreed.

2272
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 3: So I guess it didn't turn it to be as

2273
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,640
Speaker 3: good of a debates. But I like it, Loo. I

2274
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 3: like the way you think you can't you can't pass

2275
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 3: up on a quarterback that I can't win if you

2276
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 3: don't play.

2277
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 11: I don't know.

2278
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's getting to sound like me saying

2279
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 2: I hope the Patriots are not a team that's easy

2280
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 2: to defend. It's getting to be the same thing when

2281
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 2: we say, if you like the quarterback, you gotta take him.

2282
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 11: My thing is say say we take may Is. Is

2283
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 11: he gonna sit for the whole year? Like I know

2284
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 11: they'll say, oh, he's gonna sit, but probably not because

2285
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 11: once it's once it's week five and you're you're one

2286
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 11: in four and those boo birds come out. I think

2287
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 11: you gotta play him, no matter because people's jobs are

2288
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 11: on the line there and stuff.

2289
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 2: I think so too.

2290
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 11: And then are you gonna like, if he's not right,

2291
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 11: if our O linees trash, is he gonna get.

2292
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 3: Hurt when he's ready? Like I think that. I don't

2293
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 3: think the idea is we've determined today that he's not

2294
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 3: playing all year. Now, maybe I'm wrong, maybe that's exactly

2295
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 3: what they're gonna do, but I think if they feel

2296
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 3: like he's ready, they'll do it now. The other the

2297
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 3: other side of that is everybody says, you know, like

2298
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: start percent and if they're you know, when they're one

2299
01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 3: and five. What if you start percent and just start

2300
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 3: winning a few games? What are the schedules light early

2301
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 3: and you get off to a good start. Now, I

2302
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 3: would still play the rookie when I felt like the

2303
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 3: rookies ready. Miami did this three or four years ago

2304
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 3: with Tua. You remember this. They got off to a

2305
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 3: decent start with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now, you weren't going anywhere

2306
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 3: with Ryan Fitzpatrick as your quarterback. But I want to

2307
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 3: say they were over five hundred I think so, and

2308
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 3: they were in the playoff race and they made the

2309
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 3: move anyway, and then Tua finished the season with a

2310
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 3: winning record too. They didn't make the playoffs, but they

2311
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 3: were okay, and you know, obviously two has been the

2312
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:41,000
Speaker 3: guy ever since. But I wonder if, let's say, instead

2313
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 3: of one and five, they went, uh, you know, in

2314
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 3: four and two in the first six with Brissette.

2315
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 2: Robin the cat kills can't catch you to engage guy.

2316
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 2: My feeling Robin the Cats skills. I'm not upset in

2317
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 2: the lack of free agency. I'm not upset bending. I

2318
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 2: think we had a lot of players worth keeping on

2319
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 2: our team, and I agree with Coach Mail that the

2320
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 2: free Asian crop wasn't particularly good. Coach I am upset

2321
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 2: that Lagarious Snead isn't on this team. He's a young

2322
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: player who could have been had for a pick next

2323
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 2: year in money which the team has. Should we be

2324
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 2: hammering Elliott Wolf for what seems to be a lack

2325
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: of purpose?

2326
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,720
Speaker 3: So it's Snead that was the one that has you

2327
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 3: upset without anybody else.

2328
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 11: Yes, it's just this year. We have one pick in

2329
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 11: every round.

2330
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 3: Correct, one is one extra one the sixth round.

2331
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 11: But now because the match, but now that's a third

2332
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 11: round pick, Like that's a lot to give up for

2333
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 11: you need to be certain on it. So oh no,

2334
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 11: you see it both ways.

2335
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the big thing for sneed is the money. Yeah,

2336
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 3: like I think you would give up a third round

2337
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 3: pick for a top flight, all pro caliber corner.

2338
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 2: Andrew Wright said, it's becoming increasingly obvious that free agents

2339
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 2: don't want to come to New England. If you look

2340
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 2: at Calvin Ridley's comments about why he didn't sign with

2341
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 2: New England high taxes, too cold, girlfriend, didn't like it.

2342
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 2: We never heard those reasons.

2343
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 3: Did we see those comments from Ridley by Yeah, I

2344
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 3: don't know if he said those. Yes, we just wanted

2345
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 3: to Yeah, we never heard.

2346
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 2: Those reasons when Brady was here. Our only hope is

2347
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 2: to sign rookies that don't have a choice but to

2348
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 2: play here. How different would this free agency period be

2349
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 2: if we had Mike Vrabel as our head coach. And

2350
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 2: one last comment, I don't know. I don't know why

2351
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:35,879
Speaker 2: they didn't sign a veteran left slash swing tackle Jonah Williams,

2352
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 2: and he says in parentheses, or even a wide receiver

2353
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 2: to Curtis Samuel or Mooney, whoever the quarterback will be.

2354
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: I think they will need someone in both of those

2355
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,600
Speaker 2: positions that has some type of experience.

2356
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and those are not big money kind

2357
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,839
Speaker 3: of moves. I think they could have gotten an example

2358
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 3: at both of those spots and not it would have

2359
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 3: been in line with the kind of free agent pickups

2360
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 3: that they've made, not break the bank kind of guy. Yeah,

2361
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 3: the tackle especially. I think there were a couple of

2362
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 3: couple of options that they didn't seem like they were

2363
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 3: in on. But the Ridley thing, I was taken aback

2364
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 3: when Ridley was introduced in Tennessee and the Patriots never

2365
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 3: came up like there was nothing about any options, and

2366
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: to my knowledge anyway, unless I missed it, I'm not

2367
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 3: pretending to have watched the whole Calvin Ridley press conference

2368
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 3: start to finish. But yeah, I'm not so sure the

2369
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 3: Patriots were even in the ballgame that that would be

2370
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 3: more concerning to me.

2371
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 2: Juels, who's online? One? All right? Dan? And Colorado? What's up?

2372
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 10: Dan?

2373
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 3: The man?

2374
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 9: Hey, guys, So I read a Sports Illustrated article this

2375
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,759
Speaker 9: morning in which they detailed the Vikings possibly trading the eleventh,

2376
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 9: the twenty third, and potentially a first rone pick next

2377
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 9: year to the Patriots for three I think they should

2378
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 9: absolutely do this. This team is clearly not ready to

2379
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 9: really be a contender right now. I think that partially

2380
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 9: has something to do with why they didn't compete in

2381
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,680
Speaker 9: free agent. See, I don't know if that's how they

2382
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 9: want to build their team, nor should they. This team

2383
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 9: really is doesn't have anything to highlight on offense right now.

2384
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 9: So I would love the opportunity to get two first

2385
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 9: round picks and really start building the team that way,

2386
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 9: as opposed to getting a Drake may or Jason Daniels

2387
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 9: and watch some struggle for a couple of years until

2388
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 9: we have to build a team around them. But let

2389
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 9: them know your guys' top.

2390
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 3: Well, I would just say what he's gonna No one

2391
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 3: really wants to know the conversation.

2392
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 2: He's going to hang up and listen, Paul, but I

2393
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: wanted to have a conversation first time, long time. I'll

2394
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 2: hang up and listen.

2395
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 3: So I just would say, like it to me. I'll

2396
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 3: steal Fred's line so he doesn't have to keep repeating it,

2397
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 3: Like if if you really like that quarterback, I don't understand.

2398
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 2: That's part of the building, right, Like, so.

2399
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 3: If the guy can't play, we're all in agreement, Like

2400
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 3: it's a bad move, you know, Like if the guy

2401
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 3: ends up being a bust. He's a bust. I don't

2402
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 3: want to hear about. He really was great, but he

2403
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 3: didn't have anything to work with. Because there's a lot

2404
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 3: of guys that find a way to work with what

2405
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:05,840
Speaker 3: they have and at least show their ability. Okay, c J.

2406
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 3: Stroud did not inherit inherit the Kansas City Chiefs of

2407
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 3: three years ago. I even want to use them from

2408
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 3: last year, like he made the Texans better. His presence

2409
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:23,560
Speaker 3: lifted Nico Collins and Devin Singletary. Those guys were just

2410
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 3: run of the mill players that he made look good

2411
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 3: because that's what good quarterbacks do. And it's not a

2412
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 3: great offense. It's better than the Patriots, I get it.

2413
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 3: You know, Laramie Tunsel's a good tackle. He's much better

2414
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 3: than anything the Patriots have at tackle. But he's the

2415
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 3: reason why, right, And why would you not be interested

2416
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 3: if you think again, to steal Fred's line, If you

2417
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 3: think Drake may is good enough, why would you not

2418
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 3: be interested to see if he can lift your team

2419
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 3: like that.

2420
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: It's like, man, I've got the money and someone's offering

2421
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 2: me a maserati. I can have it, but I don't

2422
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: have a garage.

2423
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 3: Now if you don't. If you don't think that, then

2424
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm all for that. Was that Christian?

2425
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 10: Who was that?

2426
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 3: I forget who it was, right, I'm all for that theory.

2427
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 3: If I don't think listen, I'm not taking Drake maybe

2428
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 3: because I'm just not sure he's all that good. I

2429
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 3: think he's gonna get overdrafted by somebody. By all means,

2430
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 3: if you have an opportunity to get eleven, twenty three

2431
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 3: and a twenty five first round pick, yeah take it.

2432
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 11: Do you think when they're making that decision they're looking

2433
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 11: at next year's class too.

2434
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of the reason why I'm worried about it,

2435
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 3: because I don't think there's gonna be a lot in

2436
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 3: next year's class.

2437
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 11: I mean, I only quarterback quarterback. Yeah, it's just Chador

2438
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 11: the Jackson dark kid. I mean, how good he is.

2439
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 3: But at the same time, are you convinced that I

2440
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 3: don't do Sanders, But are you convinced that he's going

2441
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 3: to be a player?

2442
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 2: He be solid.

2443
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:44,600
Speaker 11: I think he's gonna be.

2444
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 3: He'll run around and make plays, but that's about it.

2445
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 2: But the same time, I don't reach for quarterback this

2446
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 2: year because just because I don't think the crop next

2447
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: year is good. It's the same. I don't know.

2448
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to reach under any circumstances.

2449
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 11: If you love may or Daniels, take them and take them.

2450
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 11: It's needed. Quarterback's most important position. Brissette's not the long

2451
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 11: term answer, So.

2452
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 2: Nate Northeast, Pennsylvania. I just wanted to shout out the

2453
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com team for the awesome content pumped out

2454
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: relating to the dynasty. Excuse me, wow, this is us.

2455
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: I had Italian with Hot sand Your recaps were fantastic,

2456
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 2: especially the last episode with Jeff and Matt. My favorite

2457
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 2: feature in the doc was Scott Pioli's commentary. Watching him

2458
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 2: inspired me to go back and listen to his double

2459
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 2: feature on the Pats from the Past. I highly recommend

2460
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: everyone listening right now to tune into those episodes. Scott

2461
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 2: has an awesome perspective in history with the team, and

2462
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 2: I learned a lot. Lastly, watching the doc has me wondering,

2463
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm thirty years old right now. Do any of you

2464
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 2: think we'll learn more about the Butler benching in Super

2465
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Bowl fifty two in my lifetime? That's a good question,

2466
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: you think.

2467
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 3: So, Paul, It will come out he's young, he's thirty.

2468
01:50:56,680 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, me, I don't know. Yeah, much time, no, I think.

2469
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 3: I think at some point someone's gonna tell.

2470
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 11: I still need to see the last two episodes. I'm busy.

2471
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 11: I have to watch the last two.

2472
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: What do we find out first? Why Butler didn't play?

2473
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: Who really killed Jack Kennedy? What do we find out first? Okay, Butler?

2474
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 11: All right, Kennedy?

2475
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: Maybe it was both. I don't know if Lombardy Butler

2476
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 3: didn't play. That's why Butler didn't play.

2477
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: Let's see Andre from New Jersey. Let me tell you

2478
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: a few things that grind my gear, as he says.

2479
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 3: One, you guys really grinds my gears.

2480
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 2: You guys talk all the time that we have no

2481
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 2: pass rush other than Jude On and we need to

2482
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 2: draft a guy. But can we give a player named

2483
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 2: Keyon White a chance to see what he can do

2484
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 2: in two years in this defensive scheme? First? Please?

2485
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 3: I don't think he's an edge rusher. I think he's

2486
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 3: an interior. Yeah. I think he's gonna play next to Barmore. Yeah,

2487
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 3: he's gonna got his chance to play.

2488
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2489
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: I think that's why they got rid of Lawrence guy.

2490
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: Yep, I mean, keyon White. He wasn't a pass rusher

2491
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 2: in college. It's not like he's gonna, you know, all

2492
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:10,880
Speaker 2: of a sudden become one.

2493
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think that he might have the ability,

2494
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 3: but he could be good. Yeah, and maybe he has

2495
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 3: the ability to pick up some sacks because he's like Barbore.

2496
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think Barbo is a quote pass rusher,

2497
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 3: but he got to the quarterback a lot. Yeah, you

2498
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

2499
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 2: The other thing that grinds Andre's gears is the PU

2500
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 2: halftime show needs to go. Oh, that bald headed guy

2501
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 2: with the beer doesn't bring the excitement, and the show

2502
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 2: is very dull with boring conversations.

2503
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 3: He's too cool.

2504
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,639
Speaker 2: I'd rather listen to Paul wolf down some chicken fingers

2505
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 2: and fries for seven minutes. He's welcome and hop on

2506
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 2: the show. Whenever I have them call in, you just

2507
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: gotta get more excited.

2508
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 11: All right.

2509
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 3: We didn't have any shirt off, we didn't have a

2510
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 3: halftime show. We didn't have any trivia today. We did

2511
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 3: Mayo today at halftime.

2512
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, this week I'll try to juice it up and

2513
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 2: finally already hate this new regime. The only thing I

2514
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,799
Speaker 2: like was bringing back when you and Dougar I miss.

2515
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: Bb Okay, well you seem to be the only one.

2516
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, where were you the last three years?

2517
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 3: I've been listening to a lot of comments come out

2518
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 3: of Fox borrowing. That's the only one that I heard

2519
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 3: that missed a bb.

2520
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 2: Uh Jules, who's online? Three? All right, Bronson, you're up,

2521
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 2: arroyo Bronson?

2522
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 19: Hey, how you guys doing okay?

2523
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 10: Good?

2524
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 5: So just a quick question for you. So, I'm kind

2525
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 5: of on the same thing as I was sick when

2526
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 5: we paid Juju the same contract as Jacobe Myers. Now,

2527
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 5: going off of that, what do you guys think we

2528
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 5: could actually get for him in a trade.

2529
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 3: For Juju for Juju?

2530
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Nothing like a six round pick? Maybe? Maybe?

2531
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2532
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 3: It might be like you you sent a seventh and

2533
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 3: get a sixth.

2534
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So what if talking about these trades for

2535
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:03,799
Speaker 5: some of these receivers, if you included Juju in that trade,

2536
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 5: and that would bump our like we'd have to give

2537
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 5: them a fifth instead of like a sixth or.

2538
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 26: Something or what are your guys?

2539
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 2: That's a possibility.

2540
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 3: I think that And I'm not trying to be disrespectful

2541
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 3: of Juju here, but that lowers the trade value. Oh no, no, no, Fred,

2542
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 3: it does because of the contract. That means you get

2543
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 3: lest on contract. That's why I preface it by saying,

2544
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm not being disrespectful to Juju.

2545
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: What's he getting now?

2546
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 3: His marketability is not very.

2547
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 2: Good right now?

2548
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 11: Eight around that right?

2549
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 2: Something like that. I don't know.

2550
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 3: But someone gets the salary, not the signing. Someone has

2551
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 3: to get that, so you'd get less.

2552
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 2: Thanks Bronson.

2553
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 3: Now that said, Bronson's not wrong like you. You try,

2554
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: you see if someone will take him.

2555
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Who's online? One? Jules Oliver? What's up?

2556
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 3: May I have another Oliver?

2557
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 2: Please? Sir? I'm here, okay, and we're here.

2558
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 19: We're all here, so just just want to feedback or

2559
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 19: your thoughts on this. I know that the Vikings trading

2560
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 19: up is probably not worth as much as the Chargers

2561
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 19: moving up. But in the case there, how much would

2562
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 19: we get for the Chargers moving up to three? We

2563
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 19: move back to five? Still get our guy, because Chargers

2564
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 19: and Cardinals are not getting quarterbacks?

2565
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 3: But why but why do the Chargers want to move up?

2566
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 19: Arvin Harrison at three versus a neighbors or a doom day?

2567
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 3: But you think the Chargers are going to move up

2568
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 3: from five to three for that.

2569
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 19: That's what I'm saying. What they do that and what

2570
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 19: value I mean?

2571
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 3: I think personally, I think that'd be a very foolish

2572
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 3: move need to in this wide receiver class, I think

2573
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 3: that'd be a waste to give up any resources to

2574
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 3: get up two spots so you get Harris instead of Neighbors.

2575
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 11: Who they take Harrison, Neighbors or Bowers.

2576
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,040
Speaker 3: The first of all, they could get any of those

2577
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 3: guys at five. Could But even if you lose one

2578
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:10,840
Speaker 3: of them, there are a lot of people that think

2579
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 3: that Neighbors is better. Like Janel Jeremiah, who's one of

2580
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 3: the most respected guys, isn't sure that Neighbors is any

2581
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 3: different than But.

2582
01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 2: It only matters what the charges think, and maybe they

2583
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 2: think Marvin Harrison is a generational talent.

2584
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is I think it would be

2585
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 3: foolish to trade anything to move up two spots to

2586
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: do something like this Harbo trade up. Now, if it

2587
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 3: was a situation where you have a quarterback that you

2588
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 3: needed to get and you love the quarterback, you think

2589
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 3: he's generational, that's different because now I can't get him

2590
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 3: at five, but I have to move up to get him.

2591
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 3: That's like, I don't think it's realistic that the Chargers

2592
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 3: would move up to get Marvin Harrison. I think you.

2593
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 3: First of all, I think there's a very good chance

2594
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 3: they could get him at five.

2595
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call. One more call? Who's online?

2596
01:56:58,880 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 3: Two?

2597
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: Hey Jonah, Jonah in the whale? All right, what's up?

2598
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

2599
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 23: So, my question is about the quarterback depth in this draft,

2600
01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 23: Like we haven't looked at Caleb Williams because we know

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Speaker 23: we're not getting it, or at least that's me yeh.

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Speaker 23: So I'm wondering do you think that the fact that

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Speaker 23: there's this guy that everyone knows is great?

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Speaker 10: Do you think that's.

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Speaker 23: Changing our opinion of May and Daniels? Are we valuing

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01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,880
Speaker 23: them wrong because there's this guy who's better we're not

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Speaker 23: even thinking about.

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Speaker 3: I know, I don't think I think you evaluate the

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks individually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not quite following you. And I think Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams is so good that we have a bad evaluation

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Speaker 2: of Daniels in May. Is that what you're saying or yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 23: That's one of the things that you know, there's a

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Speaker 23: best guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like.

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Speaker 23: If they're worse than Caleb Williams. Maybe they're good, but

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Speaker 23: maybe we think of them as great comparing them to

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Speaker 23: the right people. Maybe I'm not making any sense.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not well, Yeah, I just I don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't get the phone's a little sketchy, Yeah there, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't really quite understand the logic.

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Speaker 11: I think it's just saying Caleb Williams is such a

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Speaker 11: high prospect that's making us look at the other two differently.

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Speaker 3: But he's saying they're making them look look at him better.

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Speaker 3: I would think if that's the case, you'd look at

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Speaker 3: him as being worse. Just because they're not as good

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Speaker 3: as Caleb Williams doesn't mean they're not worthy prospects. But

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Speaker 3: he's saying the opposite. They're not as good as Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 3: but we're making them look better than they are. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't get little confusing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, But I don't know how cal

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Speaker 2: Williams cried.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line is I don't know how they're looking

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Speaker 3: at him, Freddy.

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Speaker 2: Do you I don't, all right, but I do know

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Speaker 2: that that's the end of this show. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: on Thursday with another edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Anything else

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01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 2: going on this week we need to relay to the fans. No, no,

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Speaker 2: no shows.

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Speaker 3: John, Well, yeah, we're working on another draft.

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Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, another draft, draft, draft countdown, draft.

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Speaker 3: Countdown, cooking up. Yeah, we got something cooking up. If

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Speaker 3: you like speaking to talk about.

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Speaker 2: The draft, that'll be a good podcast for you. All right,

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Speaker 2: We'll see you Thursday.

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