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Speaker 1: A perk of a Game seven in the World Series.

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Speaker 1: There's basically no downtime Monday hits you recap it. We

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Speaker 1: filled yesterday and then it's opt in or opt out city,

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Speaker 1: which we're about to cover. So the MLB calendar is

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Speaker 1: really nice a jay for show purposes. For our kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just the the free agent period lasts forever, so

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Speaker 2: we always have something to talk about and we always

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Speaker 2: you know take too longer than they should.

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Speaker 1: Actually, that's a good point real quick before we start.

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Speaker 1: If there's one big storyline to follow, like where will

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Speaker 2: Where will Turk schooble next year? Mmm?

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Speaker 3: Mmm, that's a new one side side note B where

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Speaker 3: we'll top Tuck.

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Speaker 1: But like, is that does that have as much intrigue

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Speaker 1: as where we want to go?

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Speaker 2: He's been injured the last two years? I mean no, not.

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Speaker 2: It's there's not a guy on this year's free agent

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Speaker 2: it because it was supposed to be Vladdie Vladdie Daddy.

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Speaker 2: But Vladdy Daddy instead decided to stay in Toronto for

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Speaker 2: only five hundred million. I don't know how he could

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Speaker 2: the rest of the free agent. Tucker's been hurt the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years. His production went down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, bo, I guess bo has banged up though,

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Speaker 2: So who's who's the big name? Maybe that's what I

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Speaker 2: should ask you? Who's the biggest name? Tucker and Boba Schett?

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is going to receive the most money. I

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Speaker 1: think Bobachett's name is just as, if not bigger than Kyle's.

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Speaker 1: And Kyle is super low key quiet.

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Speaker 2: But is Kyle? Is Kyle a franchise changing guy? Right?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Can he can? He single handedly? Because even Jim Bowden

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Speaker 2: Well do you pay a guy four hundred million dollars

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Speaker 2: to not be the guy? Cory Seger?

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Speaker 3: Cory Seger ask I would put him in that in

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Speaker 3: in if he's healthy for an ops plus of you

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you can pay four hundred million if Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't think every superstar is the leader of the team.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. I didn't say the leader, but

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Speaker 2: I said somebody that you know. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: be the leader, but you have to be someone where

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Speaker 2: that can he is the team is the team is

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Speaker 2: in Cory Seger is that guy in Texas. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: The team goes as he goes. I think Tucker us

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Speaker 2: you think you think you think he's a guy, you

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Speaker 2: think he can be Batman and he's not a Robin

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Speaker 3: I think he can be. I think if you're looking

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Speaker 3: that is a guy that you're always worried about every

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Speaker 3: the big hit he's always been. He's always been Robin

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Speaker 3: he still just did what he did, did what Tucker does. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker will not look at this year and say

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a good year because he missed a

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Speaker 1: Good game for game numbers, he didn't miss as much

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Speaker 3: The second half he wasn't as good. But unless you're

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Speaker 2: I didn't say that. I'm just saying the last two

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Speaker 2: I mean twenty two homer seventy three RBIs and five

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just asking. This is not an opinion

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's an all around player. That will change,

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Speaker 1: But they want but they want.

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Speaker 2: Tucker's won too, Kyle Tucker one in twenty two. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I actually think where will bo Go would flow better

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Jack Flaherty. He's gonna stay with the

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Speaker 2: For him, this is what he wanted to do. Twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. What's the qualifying offer gonna be twenty

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Speaker 2: giving him twenty million dollars. Good for you, Jack Flaherty. Listen,

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Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna deny that, So opt in, get your money.

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Speaker 3: you know, he's probably not going to get that much

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Speaker 3: more than the twenty one point seven qualifying offer anywhere else.

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Speaker 3: So then you're like, Okay, I don't know this place

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Speaker 3: deal till he's thirty five. Plenty of pitchers are being

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Speaker 2: He can get his place in Lakeland, he can get

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Speaker 2: I'd be if I'm Mason Miller, I'd be like, oh,

431
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Speaker 2: we just lost Robert Soarez. Oh, I can be the closer,

432
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Speaker 2: and I can close forty, save forty plus games and

433
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Speaker 2: get extra paid again and make another All Star team.

434
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Speaker 2: Like their ability was an issue with Mason Miller as

435
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Speaker 2: a starter, I'd just like to see him stick with

436
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Speaker 2: what he is and go out and find someone else. Because, listen,

437
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Speaker 2: no player will not I shouldn't say that because we

438
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Speaker 2: saw the Rockey Devers this year, but most players aren't

439
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Speaker 2: going to say if the team comes and says, hey

440
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Speaker 2: want you to be a starter, they're not going to

441
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Speaker 2: say no, we want you to do this. Once you's

442
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Speaker 2: theither going to say yes, yes, whatever you want. I'm

443
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Speaker 2: here for the team. But if I'm Mason Miller, I'm like,

444
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Speaker 2: please don't ask me that question. Just let me stay

445
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Speaker 2: where I'm at and have the ninth inning and save

446
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Speaker 2: forty plus games and go on to next year.

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Speaker 3: I have to disagree. If I'm Mason Miller, what maximizes

448
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Speaker 3: your value as a player. And now again, I'm not

449
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Speaker 3: a pitcher and never worried about getting hurt. I never

450
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Speaker 3: was like should I do this or this in the

451
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Speaker 3: game because I could get hurt.

452
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Speaker 2: Now I got it.

453
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Speaker 3: It's different as a picture and closers are easily the

454
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Speaker 3: easiest to stay healthy because they are not worn out

455
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Speaker 3: like other bullpen guys. So to me, I'm washing away

456
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Speaker 3: like injury risk as a player. I'm just I'm not

457
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Speaker 3: thinking about that. What gets you the most money? I

458
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: think Josh Hater signed the largest free agent contract for

459
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Speaker 3: a reliever. I think he beat Edwin Diaz's contract and

460
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Speaker 3: he got just over.

461
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Speaker 2: One hundred million dollars.

462
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Speaker 3: You can name handfuls of starting pitchers that got over

463
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Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars. So to me, his max earning,

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, we got dudes getting eighteen a year as

465
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Speaker 3: starters that aren't very good starters. Mason Miller, if he

466
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Speaker 3: sees himself, if he thinks I can be a big

467
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Speaker 3: league starter because of how I feel, what I've learned

468
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Speaker 3: in my two plus years almost three years in the

469
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Speaker 3: big leagues, Yes, I can make the adjustment from what

470
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Speaker 3: I was before, and I will make.

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Speaker 2: Shoot in two years.

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Speaker 3: If he takes what he does doesn't depend over. Starting

473
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Speaker 3: in two years, he could be a nine figure, nine

474
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Speaker 3: figure contract. I don't see that happening if he stays

475
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Speaker 3: in his current role.

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Speaker 1: You guys, remember Homer Bailey in twenty fourteen, never made

477
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Speaker 1: an All Star game six years one oh five. That's

478
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Speaker 1: I think still more in net present value than any

479
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Speaker 1: closer has ever been paid.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing about that. Though. Yeah you can say, yeah,

481
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Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it getting injured. I get that,

482
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Speaker 2: But they tried this and it didn't work. Also, like

483
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Speaker 2: the A's tried this, AS would have much rather have

484
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Speaker 2: Mason Miller to be a starter, you know, cause there

485
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Speaker 2: was control problems, whether it was injuries, whether whatever it was.

486
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Speaker 2: They were like, you know what, you're going to be

487
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Speaker 2: better suited. And I just think for the long term

488
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Speaker 2: of him, is he gonna make the same money? Probably not,

489
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Speaker 2: But is he going to make enough money where he's good?

490
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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, you know, Plus I don't know,

491
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Speaker 2: I just think I think that if I'm Mason Miller,

492
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm very comfortable with my role. I want

493
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Speaker 2: to stay where I am. If they ask, He'll probably

494
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Speaker 2: do it. That's what I'm saying. He's probably going. Don't

495
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Speaker 2: ask these these just don't ask me.

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Speaker 1: I'm in between you, guys, because I don't know if

497
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Speaker 1: they tried long enough and if it was the right

498
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Speaker 1: organization to try it with him just throwing that out there,

499
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Speaker 1: and I even stand corrected on myself one time we

500
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Speaker 1: asked him, it was more shot down. The last time

501
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Speaker 1: it was asked on FT was when lance Lynn was

502
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Speaker 1: hosting an episode on August fourth, and he said, not

503
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Speaker 1: right now, but he said there are possibilities of that

504
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Speaker 1: in the future.

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Speaker 3: Six starts, six six big league starts. He had a

506
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Speaker 3: three three, seven eight era as a big league starter,

507
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Speaker 3: thirty eight innings, sixteen walks, So the walks were were problematic.

508
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Speaker 3: But again, guys learn. Guys learn, like you figure out

509
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Speaker 3: what your mechanics need to be, how you need to

510
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: do this to recover, and you look back two years.

511
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you even look back one year and be like, ah, man,

512
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Speaker 3: I wish I knew that. I wish I knew that

513
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Speaker 3: a year ago. It would have really helped to me

514
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Speaker 3: in this situation.

515
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

516
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Speaker 3: I if I were his agent, duh, no, duh. If

517
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Speaker 3: I but if I were giving him advice, I would say,

518
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: how do you feel?

519
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Speaker 2: How do you recover?

520
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Speaker 3: He had the thing with the diabetes that he was

521
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Speaker 3: diagnosed in college and it really helped him understand his body.

522
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Speaker 3: So I think he's still on that journey. And I think, shoot,

523
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Speaker 3: if the Padres, if the Padres could turn him into

524
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Speaker 3: a starter, like that trade that they made to get him,

525
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Speaker 3: because they have a closer, Jeremiah Strona can step in

526
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Speaker 3: as a closer, so they're not afraid of the closer

527
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Speaker 3: position going down. It's just you're losing two elite closers

528
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Speaker 3: in one season.

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Speaker 1: Think it's a good topic. Maybe we can ask Mason

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Speaker 1: at some point this offseason if he's been asked, if

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Speaker 1: it's considered, and the questions that Kratz is going over. Hey,

532
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Speaker 1: I've got a quote from Walt Weiss during his press

533
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Speaker 1: conference yesterday. Asked about analytics, probably because he's over sixty

534
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Speaker 1: and people think he can't grasp them, that's insane, he said,

535
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Speaker 1: I've evolved with the game. I think if you don't,

536
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Speaker 1: you're fool. My philosophy is, why would anybody, especially in

537
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Speaker 1: a position of leadership turn their back on information. Alex

538
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Anthopolis has done a great job. His team has done

539
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: a great job of blending the wisdom that comes from

540
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Speaker 1: being in uniform for a number of years and the

541
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Speaker 1: information that's available out to us today and the technology

542
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Speaker 1: that's available. You know, some fans AJ brought up how

543
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: Hammer Territory was a little more critical of this move.

544
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Speaker 1: I actually spoke to some of the hosts and Hammers,

545
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Speaker 1: so I gave him our perspective, and I think that's good.

546
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Speaker 1: That's why we have shows on the FT network that

547
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: completely disagree with us on topics all across the board.

548
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Speaker 1: It could be the CBA, it could be manager player decisions.

549
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Speaker 1: Whatever we're going one way, they didn't go totally the

550
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Speaker 1: other way. They were just a little more of like

551
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Speaker 1: a five, where I feel like our group was more

552
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Speaker 1: of like an eight, nine or ten on the higher.

553
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love what he said though, like

554
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: you have to evolve. You can't nobody stays the same.

555
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: If you stay the same and you're losing, Like you

556
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: have to evolve, you have to change. And if the

557
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: game changes a certain way, if you want to stick around,

558
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: you have to make some adjustments and I think Paul

559
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 2: Weiss has done that. He said he's done it, and listen.

560
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know people that were totally anti analytics

561
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Speaker 2: for a long time. And if you don't use the

562
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Speaker 2: information properly, then you're gonna fall behind. So you have

563
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Speaker 2: to be able to adapt and adjust.

564
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Speaker 3: I think the reason the old guys, as they're said,

565
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Speaker 3: or the guys who are like I'm gunst analytics, is

566
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Speaker 3: they feel like they're experienced. They feel like and I

567
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: had this argument with Willie Randolph. He's like, I don't

568
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: need to hear this stuff. He's like, and he's slowly

569
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 3: come around, and I said, how many games have you

570
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Speaker 3: watched managed played all that stuff? He's like, ah, five thousand.

571
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Speaker 3: I said, well, what if you had watched ten thousand.

572
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Speaker 3: I was like, would that person know more than you?

573
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Speaker 3: He's like, well yeah, I said, well that's what analytics is.

574
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Speaker 3: Analytics is all the games put all in there, and

575
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Speaker 3: it's giving you the information. And just like Walt said,

576
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Speaker 3: just a little nugget, I'm gonna take a little bit here,

577
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Speaker 3: because one game, one little thing can swing one game,

578
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: which can swing your entire season.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a high floor, high ceiling higher I

580
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: like it also. By the way, remember Brent Strom has

581
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Speaker 1: been a pitching coach in baseball for so many years

582
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Speaker 1: as one of the older pitching coaches. Man, he was

583
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Speaker 1: frontline analytics way before it was Cool Kraft you probably know,

584
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: but man, he was spin Ray, fastball up, IVB all

585
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: that stuff way back.

586
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Speaker 2: He was sticky guy too.

587
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Speaker 1: That hey that worked. That was analytics in the weeds.

588
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Speaker 1: We covered this topic with Ken Rosenthal, so if you

589
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Speaker 1: want more from Ken, you can check out that clip

590
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Speaker 1: or that segment, but we are going to touch on

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Speaker 1: this ourselves. The most surprising opt in is Shane Bieber.

592
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Speaker 1: A couple days after the World Series, he decides, I'll

593
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Speaker 1: take that sixteen million dollars player option instead of the

594
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Speaker 1: four million dollars to buy out. So that means if

595
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Speaker 1: he had gotten twelve million bucks on the free agent market,

596
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Speaker 1: he would have been richer. He's also signing back with

597
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Speaker 1: the team that's going to take the biggest hit from

598
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Speaker 1: a tax perspective. That's a real thing. As we always

599
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Speaker 1: talk about in the off seasons. AJ, how shocked were

600
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Speaker 1: you that Shane Bieber opted to not hit free agency

601
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Speaker 1: and do this instead. There are some that thought he

602
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Speaker 1: would get significant money. Tim Britton does a whole deal

603
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Speaker 1: on the athletic and said three years sixty something mil

604
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Speaker 1: if he was in the free agent market. That doesn't

605
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Speaker 1: mean he's right, But that's a big difference between sixty

606
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Speaker 1: three million and sixteen.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's happy there. We talked, you kind of

608
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Speaker 2: hit on a little bit. Maybe he likes the medical

609
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: staff there, Maybe he likes his wife is happy there.

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Speaker 2: Just listen, guys make decisions for all different reasons. It's

611
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Speaker 2: not always. I know everyone says its always about the money,

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Speaker 2: It's really not sometimes about happiness. Shaan Bieber has made

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Speaker 2: a lot of money. Maybe he just is happy in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: He likes the trainer, he likes the clubhouse guy, he

615
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: likes the food, he likes the city. I don't know,

616
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Speaker 2: but he's happy there. He wants to try to run

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: it back. And all you heard from these Toronto guys

618
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Speaker 2: was how much they loved each other. So I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't fault a guy for one to stay somewhere

620
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Speaker 2: like Jack Flaherty, I can't fault him. He likes it there,

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Speaker 2: he's happy. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: I gotta follow, I gotta I'll be happy. Question what

623
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Speaker 1: if he had contacted the Blue Jays and said, hey,

624
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Speaker 1: let's try and make something work, either short term or

625
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: long term before I even hit free agency. I liked

626
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: it that much. That gives leverage back to the organization.

627
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Speaker 1: They're going to get a quote discount compared to the market.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think he jumped it so quickly? He

629
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Speaker 1: was that excited coming off what he was. And I

630
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Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Aja, I'm just curious, like, why

631
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Speaker 1: doesn't a team reach out like his team reach out

632
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, we loved this so much, let's try

633
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Speaker 1: and work something out, whether it's one year deal.

634
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Speaker 2: Or maybe that's coming. Maybe that's the works. Maybe that's

635
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: in the works, and he had to make a decision. Now,

636
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Speaker 2: Maybe they do like Salvador Perez does, and he signs

637
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: a two year deal down the road, right, Maybe that's it.

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00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: We don't know, but I know this is you have

639
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Speaker 2: what seven days after the World Series ends to make

640
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Speaker 2: a decision as a player opt in or opt out

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Speaker 2: in clubs. I mean, the World Series ended on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a lot of true time to make

643
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Speaker 2: a decision to try to negotiate a new deal. So

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00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: maybe they came to an agreement said hey, I'll take

645
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Speaker 2: this one year deal if you guys pick me up

646
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: for another year or two down the road. We don't

647
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: know that he could happen.

648
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: I feel like there's something else that we're not that

649
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: we don't know about this, Like just that he enjoyed

650
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: his time, that's awesome, but I mean guys, guys spend

651
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: a lot of time to try to get to free agency.

652
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: They try really hard. He wouldn't have gotten a qualifying

653
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: offer after this season. He technically would get a qualifying

654
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: offer if becomes becomes a free agent.

655
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I feel like there's something something more that could come

656
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: out of us.

657
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: That's a good point on the qualifying offer, and that

658
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: is a significant hamper on pitchers like him. Now he

659
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: does get to pitch a full season if healthy, and

660
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: show his value and then hit the free agent market again.

661
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: But the biggest punishment in free agency is age. So

662
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: you're racking up another year before you're hitting free agency.

663
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: And I would say this is a okay free agent class.

664
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: This is not like a whole wow, there's just aces

665
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: left and right. This is one that he probably could

666
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: have capitalized on. And and AJ I think the starting

667
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Pitcher was valued a little bit more this postseason, and

668
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: this is a copycat league, and teams would have been

669
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: like starters are pretty important.

670
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's more to it. We don't know Scott.

671
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: He made his decision, but let's not criticize the guy

672
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: for making the decision that he had the opportunity to make,

673
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: and he made the decision that he felt was best

674
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: for him and his family. So congratulates. It's rare that

675
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: people put leave fifty million dollars on the table. That's

676
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: that's rare. If you're thinking, you don't know that, we

677
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: don't know that he could have got fifty million more.

678
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know the with with no qualifying offer.

679
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: He's thirty years old, coming off the year that he did.

680
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: Everybody knows that Tommy John's you know, six years you

681
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: get six years after your Tommy John. So it's not

682
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: like this next contract would be in it. So I

683
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: think it's commendable to him. Commendable to him, and eventually

684
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: I hope we get to ask him about it and

685
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: maybe the more information will come out. Just because fifty

686
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: millions a lot when you're not when you're talking like

687
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: five hundred to five hundred and fifty million. It's when

688
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: you're talking sixteen to sixty six million, that's that's significant.

689
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, not criticizing, just pointing out, as we do on

690
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: this show, that it was a surprise. It was a

691
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: surprise to many. That was big news, and I think

692
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: it's important to cap it off this way since we

693
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: do have a large Canadian audience. This is a banger

694
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: move for the Blue Jays. This is huge for them.

695
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: They gave up a pretty decent prospect for Shane Bieber

696
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. Clearly that was worth it based

697
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: on the postseason run. And guess what, now, it's even

698
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: more worth it because you didn't know what was going

699
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: to happen, but you anticipated that if he showed health

700
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: and effectiveness, he was going to hit the free agent market.

701
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: You just got even more value out of that trade,

702
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: and you secured one of your starting pitching spots in

703
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: the rotation for next year. Huge news for the Blue Jays.

704
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 1: They're going to do the best they can to bring

705
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: back as much of that group as possible. Many of

706
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: them are already locked up. There's not that many, but

707
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: this was one of the question marks boom Bieber's back.

708
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: We check out at MGM Futures and we'll do it

709
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: with a tweet. First, this news just came in. The

710
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Braves had let go of some of their coaching staff.

711
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Freddy Gonzalez, Tom Goodwin, Rick Kranitz, Jeremy Hefner is going

712
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: to be the new pitching coach going from the Mets

713
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: to the Braves. Guess who the first base coach is

714
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: going to be? Antoine Richardson going from the Mets to

715
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: the Braves. And also not the same connection, but still

716
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Troy Snicker, who is Brian's son, a regarded hitting coach,

717
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: is now over at the hitting situation with the Mets.

718
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's what the title is, but

719
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: he's among the mix there too. So we have a

720
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: lot of incest Braves and Mets action. That's not the

721
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: right word. What's the word poaching? Yes, poaching. It's not

722
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: even poaching though, because they were like that.

723
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, nepotism. Nepotism is the word you're looking for. Nepotism

724
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: is where you hire people because they have a name,

725
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: You give people jobs because they have a name. I

726
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: think you're thinking of amphibious.

727
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: You're well, I think our grammar is on point. What

728
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: do you think though, I think it's a great move

729
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: for Atlanta if they're going to replace who they had

730
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: a jam. I'm a fan of Haffner. I think he

731
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: got a raw deal this past season based on what

732
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: he was given to work with. You know, you can't make.

733
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: He's been good though. In the past, he's been really good,

734
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't mind this move at all

735
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: for the Braves. I mean, Rick Krantz was there forever

736
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: and now he's gone. They needed someone with some experience

737
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: they went out and got. And but my question is

738
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: how much did Walt Weis's having these hirings, because they

739
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: obviously got these done really fast after hiring him, So

740
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: how much say did he have in the hirings. That's

741
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: kind of kind of the next question that needs to

742
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: be asked, Right, was he the one behind the scenes saying, Hey,

743
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: I really like you know, Jeremy Hefner, I really like

744
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: Antoine Richardson, and so where was he at? But I mean,

745
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: I like these I like these hirings, their experience and

746
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: they know what they're doing Brave.

747
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: So the Mets running this year, Hey, Anton Richardson got

748
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Juan Soto past thirty stolen bases. I'm telling you he

749
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: had something going there over at first base that was working.

750
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Mets stole much more than their sprint speed said they should.

751
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: Antoine, he gets it. He understands there's there's a few

752
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: first base coaches that put all the other ones to shame.

753
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: Yep, hey, real quick, bet MGM players, get yourself a

754
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755
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756
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757
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760
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: concern call when a hundred gambling corner Salvi's back. We

761
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: knew that they had a club option for him, talking

762
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: about Salvador Perez for the Kansas City Royals who plan

763
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: on contending next year, but then they also tack on

764
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: another year. I mean, I was looking back, Kratz. So

765
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you the details on this one first and

766
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: then you'll enjoy the trivia question that I have for

767
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: you guys. But he signs a two year, twenty five

768
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: million dollar contract for twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.

769
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: He had a thirteen and a half million dollar club option,

770
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit less than twenty six to

771
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: add a whole another year in twenty seven for his

772
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: ages thirty six and thirty seven seasons. Seems like a

773
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: very fair situation. Do either of you guys remember what

774
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: his first contract was with Kansas City, Not like, oh,

775
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: the league minimum. I'm saying the first one that he signed.

776
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: Anyone remember what the initial number was.

777
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: Twenty million or something? It wasn't It was nothing. It

778
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: was thirteen and a half, wasn't it.

779
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: So it was five years, seven million, with three club options,

780
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: totaling fourteen point seven five million dollars yep. In baseball terms.

781
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: That's not And you would think, oh, what was that

782
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two? Now that was twenty twelve.

783
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he had just come up right when he

784
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: signed it. He was super young.

785
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was early, so you're including I get it,

786
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: you're including the league minimum years, the arm year's still

787
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: you don't hear of anything that low. We hadn't back

788
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: then back then.

789
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, back then, I would say I would I'll fight

790
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: you on this one. I think I think back then

791
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: it was different because I mean, I know, listen, when

792
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: I went to arbitration as a first year catcher, what

793
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: I got, and if I would have been able to

794
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: sign a five year, seven and a half million, it

795
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been that far off. I would have taken

796
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: that as a pretty good deal, especially back then. I mean,

797
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,959
Speaker 2: catchers don't get paid. Until recently, catchers hadn't really gotten paid.

798
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: So I kind of disagree with you on this one.

799
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: Like two thousand, I mean, yeah, he could have gotten more, Yeah,

800
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: but I don't know, just first contract. He's from Venezuela,

801
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, not that that should matter, but

802
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: it does matter, man, it does. It does. Yeah.

803
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Of course your money situation definitely matters wherever you're coming from.

804
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean really, yeah, eight years, fifteen mil. For most

805
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: people in life, it's like, hell, yeah, I'm rich. But

806
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: in baseball terms, it ended up working out. I mean,

807
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: five years, fifty two and a half from seventeen to

808
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, and then he signed another extension twenty one

809
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: spring training for four years eighty two. Now he's rich, rich,

810
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: but he's also had a nice career at this point,

811
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: and a long one.

812
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: I played with him when he was on that contract,

813
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: and he just he randomly brought it up one time.

814
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: So I'm not even giving you my opinion. I'm telling

815
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: you exactly what he told me.

816
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: He said.

817
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: He said, you have to think about the fact that

818
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: seven million dollars in Venezuela. I forget how many bees.

819
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: I wish I remember. They're called bees. Is what their

820
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: money is called?

821
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: He said.

822
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: He said, that's whatever it is, forty nine million bees.

823
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: He said, my family will never have to worry about

824
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: money again. He didn't say, Ooh, I wonder where the

825
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: rest of my money's gonna come from. Ooh, I can't

826
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: wait till I get my next contract. He's like, why

827
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: would I not sign it? He was like, I never

828
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: have any idea if I'm going to have guaranteed or

829
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: not the rest of my life.

830
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: He said.

831
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: Now my family will never have to work again in

832
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 3: their entire life. That was with seven million dollars. Now

833
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: look at how how much he's made.

834
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hondo something, we'll probably close to one fifty career innings,

835
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: if not more so. It's a lot of beets.

836
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: And anybody, anybody that ever says, oh, he shouldn't take

837
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: that or you shouldn't take that money. That's you don't

838
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: don't tell someone else what their career could be or

839
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: should be worth, because that's life changing money no matter what.

840
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Yep, good stuff. You could say that to me about

841
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: the last segment for bringing up Bieber, but just bringing

842
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: it up reporting the news. That's how the off season goes. Hey,

843
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: let's slap crats at you're up first.

844
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: I can't give one Chicago love without giving the other

845
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Chicago love. That and we're probably not going to talk

846
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: about him much this offseason because they've already made their

847
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: one off season move twenty million. Luis Robert, enjoy your

848
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: time there, Boom, What do you mean Jerry said they're

849
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: going to spend They did?

850
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: Fuse. They just did.

851
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: They did. They activated a dude that they just won't

852
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: give up on because they feel like they should get

853
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: something for him. There were some quotes. Maybe we'll do

854
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a segment on it soon. One other thing I wanted

855
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: to point out, No, you don't want to do a

856
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: segment on it. We'll see, Okay. We got fifty one

857
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: million total between US, Canada and Japan for World Series

858
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Game seven. All the numbers are in largest global audience

859
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: since the Jack Morris game seven.

860
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Ninety one.

861
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: That was a long time ago, ninety one, long time ago.

862
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: That's good.

863
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: Good for the gay baseball's dying, right, Yeah, some people

864
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: want you to think. That's what people want you to think.

865
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: It's not true.

866
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: So who's getting a desproyed and NBA numbers? MLB destroyed NBA.

867
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: Numbers, yes, for games set. Who's getting all that money

868
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: is that the players. The players are getting all that

869
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: money from all that viewership, right, that's who's getting all

870
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: that money.

871
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: That is an incredible number since nineteen ninety one. Of course,

872
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: we've talked about the fact that Canada was super involved

873
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: for this go round. Japan is super involved for this

874
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: go round. So next year, if we don't see these teams,

875
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: don't expect to get that global number thrown your way.

876
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps they'll go with the domestic number at that point,

877
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: But it was necessary to throw that number out there.

878
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a massive number, over fifty million

879
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: people tuning in. Now, I got a double check if

880
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: that was the average. Yeah, that's the average audience. I

881
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: always like to point that part out too. There are

882
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: more people that actually tuned in. That's the average concurrent audience,

883
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: as in at one period of time throughout the game.

884
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: That is the average that you would see on the screen,

885
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Like if you were watching YouTube right, you would see

886
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: the average for the globe at fifty one million.

887
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: What was it last year?

888
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Because it was Dodgers Yankees, Everyone's like, whoa media darling

889
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: Dodgers Yankees.

890
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: I got it. The series wasn't good. It wasn't that.

891
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't that high.

892
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: It was Nope, it wasn't close to that high. From

893
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: what I recall, guess it.

894
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Was good, but it wasn't that thirties. I wouldn't even

895
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: say it was that high. I bet.

896
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: This was like a dream world series.

897
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: People were into this. People were into this World series

898
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. One, Toronto was a new

899
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: team that people hadn't seen a whole lot of. And two,

900
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: you had a lot of people that tuned in to

901
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: watch the Dodgers lose because they were ruining baseball. So

902
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: there was people that tuned in for hate, and there

903
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: was people that tuned in to watch another team win

904
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: that was new. So this was Yes, as much as

905
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: people don't want admit it, this was a really good

906
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: World series for a lot of reasons.

907
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: That's right, dominant, dominant, very cool. We'll let you know

908
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: any other numbers that come out, but I think that

909
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: was the last big one that we were waiting for

910
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: because we had gotten US and Canada, but there's Japan.

911
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: It felt like it, it felt like everyone was watching it.

912
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: You know. I had a lot of casuals that are

913
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: in my life that were like, oh I was watching

914
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: some even that were watching Game three, which I felt

915
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: like was nuts. My older sister just watches maybe a

916
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: few games all year, and she was like, I watched

917
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: all of Game three. I was like why. I was like, you,

918
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: you watched all of Game three to go to sleep?

919
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: She's like no, I was into it.

920
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll come up.

921
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: When Trey Savage, this area was just on fire because

922
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: a kid from Boyertown was in the World Series, like

923
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: barbershops and salon. So when we get Trey Savage on

924
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 3: here one day, you know there was casual fans, fans

925
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: that would have completely shut down watching the World Series,

926
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: watching this World Series, and they got drawn in for

927
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: a great one.

928
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Games in a good place, last comment here on the

929
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: way out, and then you can watch Trevor Mays May day.

930
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: We announced three new shows yesterday, and some comments were like, oh,

931
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: and baseball is dying yet Foul Territory is adding shows

932
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: left and right. We ain't doing it if nobody's watching

933
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: and listening. So thank you to everyone. We're here every

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00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: single day. See everyone tomorrow