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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. What's going on?

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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Saturday. I am Jason Martin, Arnie

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Speaker 1: Spaniard with me, Aaron Torres with the family. Probably the

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Speaker 1: last time he's gonna take a Saturday show off this year.

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Speaker 2: I've heard that before.

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Speaker 1: Well, college and pro are starting up, Arnie, and we

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Speaker 1: know it because there's a whole lot of football being

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Speaker 1: played today. We'll be talking plenty about that here momentarily.

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Speaker 2: Woo fake football already. I enjoy it. I love this stuff.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, Rnie. All right, well, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: preseason football to open up the show. I just call

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Speaker 1: it fake football because one is easy to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it is fake because the records don't count, or

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Speaker 1: do they. We'll get into that, but so yeah, we've

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Speaker 1: seen most teams play. There's a couple of games tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at the end of the show because of the degenerate

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Speaker 1: gambler I know you are, Arnie. Yes, of course, I'll

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Speaker 1: get your takes on those two. I'll get your I'll

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Speaker 1: get your picks on those. We'll also have Bernie Fratto,

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Speaker 1: who join us in the fourth hour. He's gonna stick

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Speaker 1: with us a little bit longer than usual, as he

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Speaker 1: has a pretty fascinating Tony Dungee story to tell us.

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Speaker 1: But what have you seen thus far? Arnie? Please overreact.

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting all weeks since I knew it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be you and me tonight again. Yes, I've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for the overreactions. Please lay them on me like

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Speaker 1: a waterfall.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm the king of a knee jerk reaction. I'm

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Speaker 2: the king of overreaction. You know what so funny is

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Speaker 2: I said this yesterday when I was filling in and

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Speaker 2: then I heard the guys talking about it today, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with it. The first thing I already

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Speaker 2: saw after like one half of football is and and

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Speaker 2: I heard the guys talking about it. Russell Wilson's done.

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Speaker 2: This guy has nothing left in the tank. He's not

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Speaker 2: gonna do squad. It's gonna be a bad year for Denver.

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Speaker 2: This will be his last year in Denver. His contracts

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Speaker 2: not guaranteed. Don't move on from him because he's just

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Speaker 2: not gonna put up good numbers. He just looks rusty.

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Speaker 2: There's he has done so baby, it is O v

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Speaker 2: R for his career is He'll never be the same father.

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Speaker 2: Time caught up with him, and caught up with him

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Speaker 2: real quick. My friend, Hey, do we have a bell fet?

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Speaker 2: Do we have some kind of a bill that can

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Speaker 2: be played every time.

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Speaker 1: Arnie has a hot take over the next four hours.

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Speaker 2: That's a hot.

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Speaker 1: Takes all we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: That's a mild take, my friend, that's not even.

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Speaker 1: Got my thing left. After a preseason game where he

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Speaker 1: played like a quarter and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll they're already dead if they weren't playing such,

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Speaker 2: if the Raiders weren't in their division, they'd be destined

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Speaker 2: for last place. I can see that already.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, we'll see. I mean the other teams in

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Speaker 1: That's why we don't have Steve de Sagade and Ice.

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Speaker 1: He's doing Chargers, Chargers. You gave him the night on

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Speaker 1: so we got the Uh, we've got the very talented

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Speaker 1: Nick Copin. So all right, so what else you got?

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Speaker 1: What else I got? I'll tell you this? And is finished.

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Speaker 2: When I'm thinking I'm doing at one eighty, I'm because

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Speaker 2: I'm I was really high on this guy. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about Bryce Young, I'm like, wow, man,

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Speaker 2: wondering if he was going to get up this guy.

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Speaker 2: I tower over him. I think I'm bigger than him.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if I would and tackle him, if I

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Speaker 2: to a seventeen game season at his size, they don't

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Speaker 1: We think that one's not a hot take.

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Speaker 2: It's not. No, I've just got to catch up. I've

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Speaker 2: got to catch earlier. Well, Bryce Young, I think, uh

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Speaker 2: But I'm not buying that at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they still don't have much from a receiving standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I know that they have Adam Thielen now, but you

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Speaker 1: look at the rest of it. The problem with getting

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Speaker 1: He was pretty much what they had from an offensive standpoys.

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Speaker 1: So now you got Shy Smith who caught passes tonight.

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Speaker 1: loved him. I thought he should know number one overall.

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same stories Toua. I didn't love

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Speaker 1: Tua coming out of college going to the pros, only

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Speaker 1: because not because of a skill set, but because of

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Speaker 1: Now Bryce got dinged up for a couple of games

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Speaker 1: last year. He's a tough, tough young guy. I like

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Speaker 1: what's around him now. For exactly, Frank Brett got a

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Speaker 1: going to take an adjustment. I still believe in Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: I don't like them to win that division, though, just

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Speaker 1: because I just feel like there's too many holes. There's

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Speaker 1: The defense is gonna be asked to do too much

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Speaker 1: as well as they played last year for Steve Wilksarny.

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Speaker 1: I just think you're asking too much of that unit

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Speaker 1: He's just it's gonna be a very baptism by fire

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Speaker 2: Fi Oh, I totally agree agree with you on that. Now,

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Speaker 2: pull over the bus. I want off the bus. I'm

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Speaker 2: off the CJ. Stroud bandwagon. Right, Oh boy, I'm off.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 2: If you don't even stop the bus, I'm jumping out

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Speaker 2: the window. My friend don't want nothing of this guy

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Speaker 2: his first year. God, what's with the bell? There's not

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Speaker 2: not even a hot take.

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Speaker 1: IHJ shot the bust after.

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Speaker 2: I just don't want anything from him. It just and

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Speaker 2: and then you see after he had a bad game,

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Speaker 2: they're like, he goes, my teammates know what I can do?

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Speaker 2: Nobody was questioning you on your team after a preseason series.

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Speaker 2: It's in his head already mentally that when he makes

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Speaker 2: a mistake, he's worried. I I don't want anything in

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Speaker 2: CJ's drive this year. I'm sorry. I'm all out on

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Speaker 1: All right, So this year a period you're sick, he's done.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with this year. I forget about what gud.

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Speaker 2: Let's just start one year at a time. I'll start

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Speaker 2: with twenty twenty three and say I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: All right? Is that because it's Houston, it's.

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Speaker 2: Because of everything, It's because I because I just don't

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Speaker 2: think he's got enough around them. I think it's because

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Speaker 2: it's Houston. The division's easier. I'm not gonna say that

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Speaker 2: But I just think he's got a lot, he's got

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Speaker 2: a lot more to learn than I thought he did.

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Speaker 1: There, Jason, Okay, So what did you see specifically from

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Speaker 1: him that you did not like?

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Speaker 2: I went tonight see that I did like? How about

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Speaker 2: that gonna start there? There's really I mean, two for

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Speaker 2: So maybe we'll have to see another preseason game, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know a much more action. He's gonna go ahead.

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Speaker 1: And get you know, you heard it here, first quarterback

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Speaker 1: controversy in Houston. C J. Stroud may never get on

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, I got to put some people

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Speaker 2: in my uh preseason Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: I will looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Well justin fields. Yeah, jeez, my goodness. If this was

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Speaker 2: a full game, the guy would have thrown for eight

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Speaker 2: hundred yards. I'm starting to think maybe I'm wrong on

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears and they're gonna be a better team

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Speaker 2: than I thought they were gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they because they because they beat the

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Speaker 1: Titans by six points in the preseason where they had

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you about the Titans, is is

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Speaker 2: who's gonna be their starting quarterback? Because I'm starting to

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Speaker 2: think it's not going to be Tannehill. But I'm probably

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Speaker 2: wrong on that one, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would still say it's going to be Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: The question is who's going to be the quarterback at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: based on skill, but on availability. The offensive line for

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Speaker 1: and if Tannehill gets roughed up, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: long he's going to survive. Outside of that, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Got too young to take over for him.

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Speaker 1: I know I wouldn't be surprised if it wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Levice Willis still looked a couple of years away. Last

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Speaker 1: year he had a good goal. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: He had one hundred and eighty nine yards passing. He

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Speaker 1: threw an interception, just like Levis did. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the AFC South. We talked about this last week.

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Speaker 1: It's it's Jacksonville's to lose on paper. But I'm still

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Speaker 1: We are well not we. Arnie is laying out all

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Speaker 2: at the Browns because what I thought I've never seen

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Speaker 2: a team do this before in my life. The Browns

433
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Speaker 2: score touchdown, they're down by two points. It's late in

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Speaker 2: the game, there's a minute and thirty left and they

435
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Speaker 2: have no timeouts left. Yep, so you naturally go for

436
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Speaker 2: two points, which they did. They didn't get it. So

437
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Speaker 2: now they're down by two with a minute and a

438
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Speaker 2: half left. And obviously, like you said, preseasons for practicing.

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Speaker 2: So you figure you're gonna practice the outside kick. If

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Speaker 2: you get the ball back, then you try to maneuver

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Speaker 2: the ball down field, get a last second field goal.

442
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Speaker 2: You know, practice stuff, get the field goal, you know

443
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Speaker 2: all that stuff. Great practicing, get the outside kick, all

444
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Speaker 2: that stuff. As you don't really get the practice on

445
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Speaker 2: side kicks. They decide we're just gonna kick the ball

446
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Speaker 2: into the end zone, touchback, and let the other team

447
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Speaker 2: just take the knee three times and the games over.

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to practice their on sidekick. They didn't

449
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Speaker 2: want to try to win the game. Matter of fact,

450
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Speaker 2: Steve Fenzick put out that Denver did something yesterday where

451
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Speaker 2: they weren't doing stuff to try to win the game either. Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't care who you put out there first, dring

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Speaker 2: eighth string ten. I don't care if they put you

454
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Speaker 2: and I out there. You gotta go ahead and at

455
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Speaker 2: least try to win the game. If you want to

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Speaker 2: go forward on fourth and fifty, then go for it,

457
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Speaker 2: but try to pick up fifty one yards. You have

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Speaker 2: to stare what I'm saying. Don't just say well, we're

459
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Speaker 2: gonna take a knee or something like that. You can't

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Speaker 2: kick the ball into the end zone when you know

461
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Speaker 2: that you're not gonna get it back and just say

462
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Speaker 2: the hell with it, we're gonna walk away. Fans come

463
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Speaker 2: that they pay money for this, at least try to

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Speaker 2: win the game. I know its meanings like you said,

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Speaker 2: but don't you have an obligation to at least try

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Speaker 2: to win the game?

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Speaker 1: Jason? Or No, No.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not even an obligation, right, No.

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Speaker 1: You definitely don't have an obligation. I mean obligation by

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Speaker 1: its own definition would mean you would have to do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, why wouldn't you try? Why wouldn't you practice that?

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you practice an on side kick? Why wouldn't

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Speaker 2: your practice Okay, we got the ball back. You know,

474
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Speaker 2: set up a culture, Like you said, let's see if

475
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Speaker 2: we can win this work the ball downfield, kick the field,

476
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Speaker 2: go all that melody. Why that's what you that's what

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Speaker 2: you hope for.

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Speaker 1: I guess one side kick thing to me is just

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Speaker 1: it's right for the wrong kind of dumb injury. You're

480
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Speaker 1: just putting yourself in a situation where somebody might get killed.

481
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Speaker 1: That's the thing, Like, is it worth the potential risk

482
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Speaker 1: when the wins and losses don't count at all, and

483
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Speaker 1: all you're really doing is getting reps and you're getting

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Speaker 1: an observation at certain folks, certain people. And Yes, the

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Speaker 1: one thing that I will say in defense of your point,

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Speaker 1: right would be that you want to put your team

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Speaker 1: through the paces of every situation that they may encounter,

488
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Speaker 1: and not just your team on the field, but your

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. Yes, so that everyone's dialed in and is

490
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Speaker 1: making the proper decisions. And you're kind of because you're

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Speaker 1: not going to rust off as a coach, just like

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Speaker 1: you are as a player, just like you are as

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Speaker 1: an official, just like you are as a broadcaster. Everybody

494
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Speaker 1: is being put through their paces right now in their

495
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Speaker 1: own version of a ramp up period. So I understand

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Speaker 1: it from that perspective. But football is just if you

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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to protect your investments.

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Speaker 2: But you told me, you told me there was just

499
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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that are gonna be under the

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Speaker 2: eighth string anyway. So I'm not saying it's okay for

501
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Speaker 2: those guys to get hurt. Nobody was in at the

502
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Speaker 2: end of the game of any value. But you still

503
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Speaker 2: got to try to win the game, Jason. You got

504
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Speaker 2: to play through the whole sixty minutes, whether it doesn't

505
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Speaker 2: make a difference who's in the game, first string, eighth string.

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Speaker 2: You don't just walk away without just say that that's okay,

507
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Speaker 2: we played fifty eight minutes, fifty nine minutes. That's good enough.

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Speaker 2: Let's just call it now.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been well, yeah, but have you ever

510
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Speaker 1: been to like a college like a red and white game,

511
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Speaker 1: a spring game, yes, or even in high school or

512
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Speaker 1: something like that where they don't play it out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because I have.

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Speaker 1: I've been to them. They'll be like in the third chord,

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Speaker 1: all right, guys, we've seen enough, and they'll just shut

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Speaker 1: it down because it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: This is more than a spring game, though, this is

518
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Speaker 2: much more than that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I I think at times the pricing

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Speaker 1: on preseason games from NFL teams is pathetic, right, I

521
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Speaker 1: just it's indefensible in so many ways, and season ticket

522
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Speaker 1: holders having to be accountable for those and all of

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's a bit of a racket.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately the goal is, well, there's two goals. I

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Speaker 1: think one goal certainly is get your guys ramped up

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Speaker 1: so that they're in a position not to be injured,

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Speaker 1: because part of the whole idea of preseason isn't really

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Speaker 1: to keep them from getting injured into preseason. It's to

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Speaker 1: make sure their bodies are prepared for the rigors of

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Speaker 1: the regular season. You have to bring that on gradually

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Speaker 1: and it grows as you go week to week. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing, and I think we know this man,

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Speaker 1: The other thing is it's a television product, right. It's

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Speaker 1: something that the NFL can use to advertise the fact

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Speaker 1: that football is almost upon us, that football is almost back.

536
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Speaker 1: In fact, it's so close you kind of are watching

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Speaker 1: it and it just gets you so ready to see

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Speaker 1: those same uniforms, but with the guys that you really

539
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Speaker 1: know wearing them, and that it becomes a great advertisement,

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Speaker 1: a great promotional tool for the league. Despite some of

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Speaker 1: the other things that are going on, but at the

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Speaker 1: end of a game, going for it on an on

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Speaker 1: side kick or all of those things. If you go

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Speaker 1: for it, I'm not going to criticize you if you

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Speaker 1: don't go for it, though I have a hard time criticized.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's if I'm down by two points and

547
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Speaker 2: then I can kick a forty yard field goal and

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Speaker 2: I just say, nah, We'll just take a knee and

549
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Speaker 2: walk off. We've showed enough. That's okay. I don't want

550
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Speaker 2: to get my kicker to pull a hamstring or anything.

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Speaker 2: That's okay with you, Right.

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Speaker 1: I'll answer that question after we go to Nick Ut

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Speaker 1: that's coming up next right here on Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Nick take it away, all right, nice little segue. Guys.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you a team who does care about winning

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Speaker 7: preseason games. That's the Baltimore Raven.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 7: They have extended their record now to twenty four straight

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Speaker 7: preseason victories. Beat the beat the Eagles twenty to nineteen eleven.

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Speaker 2: Guy was one guy scored a touchdout. He took this football,

561
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Speaker 2: it was keeping it. He was gonna put it on.

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Speaker 2: You know what, this man thalon and shure. But that's

563
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Speaker 2: a touchdown he got in a game, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, well, hopefully he'll get one in a month or so,

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Speaker 7: and then he can just throw that one away. I

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Speaker 7: would think that's just a placeholder. They have the Ravens,

567
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Speaker 7: by the way, they haven't lost a preseason game since

568
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Speaker 7: twenty fifteen. Other NFL preseason action, we saw Bryce Young,

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Speaker 7: the number one overall pick. He played three series but

570
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Speaker 7: did not pick up a first down. He was four

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Speaker 7: of six for twenty one yards, took a sack. Zach

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Speaker 7: Wilson looked good in that game, had a buck twenty

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Speaker 7: three and a score. Jets shut out the Panthers twenty

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Speaker 7: seven to nothing. Trevor Lawrence threw a pick on his

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Speaker 7: first throat today, but then he let a touchdown drive later.

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville ended up beating the dak prescott Less Cowboys twenty

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Speaker 7: eight to twenty three. Bear starting offense was impressive and

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Speaker 7: there win against the Titans justin fields three of three,

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Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty nine yards a couple of touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: One of those went to new wide out.

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Speaker 7: DJ Moore, who turned a screen pass into a sixty

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Speaker 7: two yard touchdown and maybe the best feel good story

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Speaker 7: of the day. DeMar Ham went back on the field

584
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Speaker 7: for the first time since suffering cardiac arrests seven months ago.

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Speaker 7: He had three tackles on the other side. In that

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Speaker 7: game Colts Rocky quarterback Anthony Richardson. He struggled to move

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Speaker 7: the Indy offense consistently seven of twelve sixty seven yards

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Speaker 7: and an interception.

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Speaker 2: Bills won the game.

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Speaker 7: Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker the third He returned to

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Speaker 7: practice today, good news for Seattle. He's been out since

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Speaker 7: early training camp with the groin injury. In the NBA,

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Speaker 7: ESPN reports the Sixers have ended trade talks on James

594
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Speaker 7: Harden and they intend to have him at training camp

595
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Speaker 7: to start next season. College football reports a Michigan coach

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Speaker 7: Jim Harbaugh's negotiated four game suspension with the NCAA four

597
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Speaker 7: recruiting violations has been denied by the Committee on Infractions.

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Speaker 7: We're not likely to get a resolution on this until

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Speaker 7: next year, so that means Harbaugh is expected to coach

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Speaker 7: all games coming up this season.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go to baseball.

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Speaker 7: The Braves swept a doubleheader against the Mets twenty one

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Speaker 7: to three and six to nothing. Matt Olson homer twice

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Speaker 7: in Game one, for Atlanta. He now leads the big

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Speaker 7: leagues with forty two home runs. Cubs edge the Blue

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Speaker 7: Jays five to four, Brewers with a three run seventh

607
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Speaker 7: to beat the White Sox three to two, so Milwaukee

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Speaker 7: maintains a two and a half game lead in the

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Speaker 7: NL Central. Marlin's got a complete game from Sandy Elcintara.

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Speaker 7: They topped the Yankees three to one. Miami's a half

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Speaker 7: game back of Chicago for the final NL wildcard spot.

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Speaker 7: Astros crust the Angels eleven to three. Rays walked off

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Speaker 7: the Guardian six to five, Tigers over the Red Sox

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Speaker 7: six to two, and the Twins cruise past the Phillies

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Speaker 7: eight to one.

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Speaker 2: Guys, back to you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Nick, Hey, Arnie, do you do you want

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Speaker 1: to know how I know that preseason should not be

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Speaker 1: taken particularly seriously?

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Speaker 2: Why because the kids that go there don't want to

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Speaker 2: take it seriously. Forget about the kids.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, now, if we roll back the tape about

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Speaker 1: three minutes, I heard the following sentence come out of

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Speaker 1: Nick Cope's mouth. Zach Wilson looked pretty good today for

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Speaker 1: the Jets.

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Speaker 2: He did look good. Yeah, that's all I needed to

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Speaker 2: hear he did look pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You know, boy, that's how you know preseason should not

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Speaker 1: be taken seriously.

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Speaker 2: But I gave you the question, what happens if your

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Speaker 2: team is down by two and you can kick a

632
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Speaker 2: field goal to win the game, and you just say, nah,

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Speaker 2: the hell with it. We've we've played hard enough for

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Speaker 2: fifty nine minutes and fifty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Was that the scenario?

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Speaker 2: No, that wasn't the scenario.

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Speaker 1: But that's a different scenario.

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Speaker 2: You're you go, but you know what, your kicker to

639
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Speaker 2: pull a hamstring or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Now do you what's the likelihood of the injury to

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Speaker 1: the kicker compared to the injury on an onside or

642
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Speaker 1: a kickoff or going for broke or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Like I would kick the ball for two seconds last, and.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't want to onside kick it, then try

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Speaker 2: something where you squip kick it down the field and

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Speaker 2: try to recover it or or something like that. Try

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Speaker 2: something new. Now's the chance to try something new. Becu

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Speaker 2: is you're gonna lose the game if you if you

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Speaker 2: don't do that, I just can't believe, you know what.

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Speaker 2: It's more like pride because a lot of the the

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Speaker 2: players want to win. The coaches want to win. I

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Speaker 2: just the fans want them to win. You're the only

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Speaker 2: one that doesn't want their team to win in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, are you near a microphone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Am I am? I the only one that that feels

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Speaker 1: this way?

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Speaker 2: Why do you do? You root against your people? Don't

660
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Speaker 2: root against their.

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Speaker 1: Team, even not rooting against my team. But I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if they don't try to win. No,

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Speaker 1: but you want them to win.

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Speaker 2: You're going to a game.

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Speaker 4: The nice season is not about trying to win. It's

666
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Speaker 4: trying out everything you're gonna need for the actual season. Right,

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Speaker 4: I think, I think, what's I think I have an

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Speaker 4: idea of what's happening here, if I may. I think

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Speaker 4: I figured out the unified theory of Arnie.

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Speaker 2: Arnie.

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Speaker 4: I know you gave out the Baltimore Ravens. Uh, you

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Speaker 4: bet against four?

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. That so they didn't cover. That's no

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Speaker 2: big thing. They still won, no big deal. All right,

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Speaker 2: So I got that one wrong. But that's that's so what.

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Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with winning or losing against

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Speaker 2: the spread. Like the Browns weren't going to cover the

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Speaker 2: spread yesterday, But I still think they had an obligation

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Speaker 2: to try to win the ball game. It's amazing, you know,

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Speaker 2: are you guys? Just maybe I'm just a bigger fan

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Speaker 2: than you guys. Maybe that's just when oh I don't

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Speaker 2: listen as I would think.

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Speaker 4: That's let me let me tell you something as a

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Speaker 4: Lions fan, I know for a fact about why preseason wins.

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Speaker 2: Then you guys, then you guys sixteen? Yes, all right,

686
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Speaker 2: so one time, that's that, I hear that. And that's

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Speaker 2: the one time, you know, the O and four and

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Speaker 2: then four and oh then six and sixteen? Okay, so

689
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Speaker 2: backfired one time. That doesn't mean you you know.

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Speaker 1: I told you Peyton manning Colti or they won the

691
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, were winless in the preseason, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: and then won the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many games did Peyton playing?

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Speaker 1: There?

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: Trying out rotations, you're trying out schemes, you're trying out

696
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: depth pieces, you're trying to figure out who you're keeping

697
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: down when you're cutting about a third of your roster

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Speaker 4: from ninety men to fifty Jason.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you, let me give you another analogy

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Speaker 2: here Let's say you have a kid that has straight

701
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Speaker 2: a's in a class. Her great point average is one

702
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Speaker 2: hundred percent, so in the finals, she's gonna get an A

703
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Speaker 2: in the class anyway. She goes, Yeah, I just answered

704
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Speaker 2: every question wrong on purpose. Was it didn't make a difference.

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Speaker 2: That's okay with you. Then right, doesn't because it didn't

706
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Speaker 2: make a difference, I'm still gonna get the A in

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Speaker 2: the class. So I purposely got every question wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're all kissed off. That generally doesn't happen because A

709
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Speaker 1: if you have a guaranteed A no matter what, you

710
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Speaker 1: test out and you don't take the test at all.

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Speaker 1: They took the tenning you don't play the preseason game

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Speaker 1: at all.

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Speaker 2: I just it's just amazing you got all the answers. Nobody,

714
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: nobody wants to go ahead and be held responsible. Just

715
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Speaker 2: just play to win the game. That's all I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: Lady, ladies and gentlemen. I would like to apologize to

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Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier and to anyone else out there I've offended

718
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Speaker 1: by actually understanding facts and just and defending and going

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Speaker 1: against analogies that don't really equate to what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: That to you, they equate to me, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: So are you basically calling them gutless teams that didn't

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Speaker 1: go for the win? Do you just assume now those

723
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Speaker 1: are definitely losers those are five and twelve.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a bad precedent

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Speaker 2: to be setting like, hey, we don't give a damn

726
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Speaker 2: whether whether we win or lose when we could try

727
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: to easily. You're talking about a minute and a half

728
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Speaker 2: left of the game. It's not like I'm I'm asking

729
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Speaker 2: you to put your starters back in there or anything

730
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Speaker 2: like that. I just it's amazing that I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm the only one when we worked up about this,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's just a bunch of Hey, we're just gonna

733
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Speaker 2: lilly guy around, no big deal. People are fighting for

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Speaker 2: jobs around. Okay, gosh, it's preseason. It's preseason.

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Speaker 1: Literally, get anybody into studio that has a mic next

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Speaker 1: to them, just just turn it on real quickly and

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Speaker 1: say it's preseason and.

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Speaker 2: The guys are our producers. Thirteen years old. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: know anything about what Hey.

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Speaker 7: I always see these postgame videos though the coaches act

741
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Speaker 7: like it's a big deal they got this win. Sometimes

742
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Speaker 7: in preseason. They're always talking it up.

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Speaker 1: Of course they are.

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Speaker 2: It's preseason coaches.

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Speaker 1: Come on, that's right, that's it. Look there it is again, Arnie.

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Speaker 1: Just think about it during the break. What I said,

747
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: the way you know preseason football is not particularly relevant

748
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Speaker 1: to what we're going to see is the statement of fact.

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Speaker 1: But you need buyer update anchor Nick Cope, Zach Wilson

750
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Speaker 1: looked pretty good today for the Jets. That's in a

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Speaker 1: news report.

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Speaker 2: When you say it's just preseason. You know what the

753
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: funny part is, you would never say that to the

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Speaker 2: head coach of the head coach because I think we

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Speaker 2: did some good stuff out there today and you and

756
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Speaker 2: you went something like, it's just preseason, coach, he jumped

757
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Speaker 2: down your throat like you wouldn't believe if you said something.

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Speaker 1: Like that, you know he would. I'd wait until I

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Speaker 1: got on air later and saying about him. We'll come back.

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Speaker 1: It's already in shaymar here at Fox Sports Saturday and

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Speaker 1: at e irag dot com studios back in a moment

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Speaker 1: on FSR.

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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Fox Sports Saturday. Fox Sports Radio halftime in

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Speaker 1: La rams down a couple scores to the Chargers. Yep, man,

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not close at the end. We got

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Speaker 1: to see if a team's gonna care.

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Speaker 2: Wow you by by the way, can I give a

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Speaker 2: correction that we have from earlier? Those clowns, well, you

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Speaker 2: call them the producers. You asked them when I said,

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Speaker 2: you know, it feels like more and more, you know,

775
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Speaker 2: starters are playing early in the games, and that's when

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Speaker 2: those cards are like, I don't know what you're talking about. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's lots of guys out there. Patrick Mahomes will be

778
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Speaker 2: playing TOAs for two plays. Yeah, you don't know, not

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Speaker 2: more than two plays. And that's not even the point

780
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Speaker 2: for crying out loud. The point was that I said

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Speaker 2: that they're playing more, and that's exactly what happened. By

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Speaker 2: the way, Jason, just a couple of tweets for you,

783
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: pops right into your points thinking genius, why keep score

784
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Speaker 2: if it doesn't one.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that too too.

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Speaker 2: Why are the Ravens record for wins a record? If

787
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't Bob.

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Speaker 2: Rides, Hey stick a genius. The NFL allows gambling on

790
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: these preseason games. They need to try to win for integrity.

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Speaker 2: What about the people who lost money on it? If

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Speaker 2: you're not going to try to win, don't allow gambling

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Speaker 2: on preseason games.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that idea too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, God, you're just bowing down to the

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Speaker 2: listeners today.

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Speaker 1: Look, no, I'm just saying, Look, I don't necessarily think

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Speaker 1: you should be gambling on games that where you can't

799
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Speaker 1: gamble on the integrity of them because you don't.

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Speaker 2: Know preseason no preseason.

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Speaker 1: Well, well that's on you, man, Like that's on you.

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Speaker 1: If they don't go forward at the end, Okay, then

803
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: like whatever it's I'm watching Stetson Bennett throw pass us

804
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Speaker 1: right now for the Rams.

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Speaker 2: I like him.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I want to see what he I actually want

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Speaker 1: to see what he does in the pro. Very interesting.

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Speaker 2: He had a touchdown earlier. He's not putting up any

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Speaker 2: big numbers or anything, but I like him. What is

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Speaker 2: he like thirty or something like that. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you can go to college for six years and

812
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: not graduate, But that's beside the point, especially when you

813
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: have to say eligible playing football. But I like him.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna stick around.

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Speaker 1: You might, we will certainly find out. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: you always forget, Oh that guy got drafted right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's there. And that's one of the fun things I

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Speaker 1: will say about the preseason. We are live into Tirack

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Speaker 2: I look up.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think we're gonna necessarily have NBA stories tonight,

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Speaker 1: but a little later we might. We got the James

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Speaker 1: Harden thing, and then of course the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: We were gonna mention that at least for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But have you gotten it all out of your system

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Speaker 1: about preseason?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm hard. Now we could move on to the

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Speaker 2: NBA if that's where you want to go.

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Speaker 1: No, not yet, not yet. I felt like you probably

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Speaker 1: still had more in the tank.

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Speaker 2: Quite just I just you know, I think I put

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Speaker 2: a little bit more emphasis into it. Than you guys.

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Speaker 1: That's clear.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I you know, I'll watch it. I'll

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Speaker 2: sit down and watch the whole game. I don't won't

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Speaker 2: watch it as intently as if it's a regular season

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Speaker 2: game or anything like that. And you know, and I'm

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Speaker 2: surprised with Jason. You love college football, so do you

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Speaker 2: You would think you'd like some of these guys that

844
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Speaker 2: might not stick around. You know, they get drafted, and

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Speaker 2: you know they have big names in college, but not

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Speaker 2: necessary necessarily in the NFL. And I want to see

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Speaker 2: which ones that, like you mentioned Bennett, I'm curious to

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Speaker 2: see how he's going to look. I mean, he played

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Speaker 2: for so long, played on national championship teams. I want

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Speaker 2: to know how he's gonna look at the next level,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I get that. I guess the thing is,

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Speaker 1: you still don't know how he's gonna look. You just

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Speaker 1: know how he's gonna look against this unit that he

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Speaker 1: would never see if he was actually called into real action,

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Speaker 1: right the unit that he's playing against for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: These are not the guy as he would be seeing

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the field. If indeed Stafford

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Speaker 1: got hurt and he had to come into the game.

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Speaker 1: That I think is my issue. It's like, this is

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Speaker 1: what he looks like against his own level. Well we

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Speaker 1: saw that, we saw that at Georgia. Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what that tells me about what he can do?

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Speaker 2: Well, what does it tell the coaches? I mean, why

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Speaker 2: why even have preseason games? They're looking at something, They're

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Speaker 2: they're they're they're, you know, evaluating something. Aren't they sure

867
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: they are this?

868
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, something like seven positions, five to seven positions.

869
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: And now I think you have a larger practice squad

870
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. You were trying to decide a few spots.

871
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Most most of this is already long decided, and maybe

872
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: you're just looking at depth at max. We'll come back.

873
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: I want to talk about storylines, more about the NFL preseason,

874
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: hard knocks, all sorts of NFL chatter coming up our

875
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: number two. Next, what's up our number two of the program.

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Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Saturday. M Jason Martin along with

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Speaker 2: All right, Yes, you never got there would be three

883
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: to go.

884
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: I know we haven't.

885
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: We're getting there.

886
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got that going. We didn't get to any

887
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: of the topics other than the preseason with that. That

888
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: kind of took us the last forty minutes or something.

889
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's fine because the NFL is king that.

890
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I wanted to talk about it.

891
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to look at your boom or bus list

892
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: that you sent me.

893
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of wait, which number is that?

894
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: Hold on, I need to know Roman numeral number ten? Yes,

895
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: number Roman, but number ten. You're a higher education type guy,

896
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, I would assume you like Roman numerals, none

897
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: of this. You know, Harmon doesn't even put numbers next

898
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: to his He doesn't even put an outline. I would

899
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: dig you. You would appreciate a nice good outline, would

900
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: Roman numerals and all that stuff? You know.

901
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: I do appreciate it, Arnie. I appreciate that you are

902
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: able to count to fifteen and Roman numerals. That is.

903
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I could do it. I could get up to

904
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: one hundred. Stop it, Come on now, could you. Yeah,

905
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: somebody sent me a chart what it would get to afterwards,

906
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: so I could just look at the.

907
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: True what is forty forty?

908
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, wouldn't it be xx x X Nope, No, that

909
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't be So.

910
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Would it be oh X, I mean it would be,

911
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: but no x M.

912
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: We'll be X and whatever fifty is.

913
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Professor, you won't help them out?

914
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, I guess, I guess I. So what

915
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: are we trying to figure out?

916
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: What is fifty forty?

917
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

918
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: Alright, so ex excel excel Yeah, correct, there you go. See,

919
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: I eventually get it took us.

920
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: All it took was V tries for you to get it, Arnie.

921
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 4: And I thought you liked super Bowl? How do you

922
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: not learn your Roman numerals from the Super Bowl?

923
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Right? Exactly? All right, so you're boomer bust list. Yes,

924
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that could be on this.

925
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

926
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Is this the what you sent us? Arnie? Actually, I'm

927
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: gonna admit something that I wasn't really prepared to tonight,

928
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: which is actually kind of like your list, like the

929
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: list that you sent, right, I'm sure that I can

930
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: come up with more people. Oh, when I looked at

931
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: the list earlier, I was just like, Okay, yeah, no,

932
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: I agree with most of these choices, maybe all of

933
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: these choices. As a matter of fact, I did find

934
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: it interesting that all of them are quarterbacks.

935
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 2: Right, because that's where a lot of the intrigue is,

936
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, with the running back situation. I'm more intrigued

937
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: like where these guys are going to end up? And

938
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: I you know, Boomer Bust really doesn't fit the running back.

939
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: I could see the running backs going for one thousand

940
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: to fifteen hundred yards or the high end of the ones,

941
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: gonna have eight to twelve touchdowns. Except for Henry out

942
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: there with you guys in the Titans, You're not gonna

943
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: have anybody with the big explosive type numbers. Maybe a

944
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: Saint Kwan Barkley. I'm more curious to see where the

945
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: running backs are gonna go to. It's the quarterbacks. So

946
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: many quarterbacks that are intriguing that we'll be playing this

947
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: year that you can go one way or the other

948
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: on Boom or bust for what they're gonna do. And

949
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying for a career, Jason, I'm just talking.

950
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: About fine upcoming ye see you Yeah, okay, yeah, I

951
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: mean I think that's fair, and I don't think we

952
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: need to always look that deep into the future. I

953
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: think this year, or for a lot of these guys,

954
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: is a make or break scenario. Not everybody on this list,

955
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: but certainly some of these guys, a.

956
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Lot of them.

957
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, you mentioned the running backs. I wanted to

958
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: talk about that. I have it planned for us to

959
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: chat after the bottom of the hour update about that

960
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: very topic and what to expect from the running back

961
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: position on the field and the big names this year.

962
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: So we will get to that, all right. So let's

963
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: look at the Boomer Bust list that you put together, folks.

964
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: I know you don't have to bring up your own

965
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: and I did not send everyone a word document, so

966
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have to wait as we go through this.

967
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: Do you have these in an order or.

968
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: To particular Yeah, it was just as I'm going through

969
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: the list there and just names that were popping in

970
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: my mind. Could be great players, some players not so great,

971
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: but they're gonna be starting this year anyway, you know,

972
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: like number six, Okay, Baker Mayfield, right right?

973
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you've got Bryce Shuk and CJ. Stroud at

974
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: two and three. I want to throw them out just

975
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's fair to even put them

976
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: in a boom er bus category in year one, especially

977
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: walking into the situations they're walking in.

978
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: A chance to be I thought Bryce Shuk had a

979
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: chance to maybe be something special this year and put

980
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: up some really gaudy numbers, some big numbers.

981
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: But if he doesn't, you're not gonna call him a

982
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: bus though.

983
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna call him a bus. I just

984
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: thought he was more on the boom side and we're

985
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: gonna be like, Wow, this kid can really play. I'm not.

986
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get that from time to time. Yeah,

987
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get flashes of that. And I

988
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: think that's all you want. If you're a Panthers fan

989
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: or somebody that's bought into the Bryce Young stock. By

990
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: the end of this year, what you want to see

991
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: is progress, right. You want to see at the end

992
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: of the year a better football player and one that

993
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: is taking his lumps and come through the other side

994
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: as somebody you feel a little bit more confident in

995
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: going into year two and.

996
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Like you say, the building process, like you said, take

997
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: his lumps, aw, So you want to see him standing

998
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: after seventeen games and to see what he's gonna put in. Look,

999
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: I can't say he's gonna be a boom. I'm not

1000
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: gonna say he's gonna be a bus but he's not

1001
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: gonna put up nearly big numbers at first, like I

1002
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: thought he was going to Jason.

1003
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: No. I mean they are a week. It is a

1004
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: weak division that the Panthers are in, right, Nobody else

1005
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: in that division is going to be particularly good, although

1006
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 1: the Saints defense is always relatively tough. At the same time,

1007
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: I do think at times he's going to have a

1008
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: couple of big games, probably against at least against that division.

1009
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: But let's go to the guy that you have number

1010
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: one on the list, because I think this is one

1011
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: of the storylines. It's a two pronged storyline. When I

1012
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: was asked last week, what's the thing you're most interested

1013
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: in in the league this year? I said, I don't

1014
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: think it's close, but I also think it's almost too

1015
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: easy for me to go here. It's the two pronged

1016
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: storyline of Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, right, and Jordan

1017
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Love with the Packers. And so you have Jordan Love

1018
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: number one. And I like that because that is the

1019
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: definition of boom or bust because quite frankly, he doesn't

1020
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: have the time. They're not gonna give him four years

1021
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: to decide if he's the guy Jason.

1022
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: We could take one hundred calls and I wouldn't be

1023
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: surprised if fifty said he's gonna be a boom in

1024
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: fifty said he's gonna be a bust. I mean, really,

1025
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: it's down in the middle. Some people who aren't Rogers

1026
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: fans are gonna say, hey, you watch him pick it up.

1027
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: He does have two good receivers, I gotta tell you,

1028
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: and he's not the type of quarterbacks it's gonna say, well,

1029
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: you made one drop, I'm never gonna throw the ball

1030
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: for you again for like six or seven games or

1031
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: any bull crap like that, you know what I mean.

1032
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 2: I used to think if I was gonna pick one,

1033
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: I used to think that he's going to be a bust.

1034
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: But I tell you, I saw some flashes in him.

1035
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: He looks like he has a better control of the offense.

1036
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 2: He's certainly been on the bench for a long time.

1037
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: He's been learning behind one of the best. If I'm

1038
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: picking one, I'm gonna say he's gonna be more of

1039
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: a boom because I think the Packers could put up

1040
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: some numbers offensively. Look, you're not gonna have the lions

1041
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: to kick around like you know Aaron Rodgers did. But again,

1042
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: it division's a little bit better. But I think he's

1043
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: got good weapons around him and he's gonna be able

1044
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: to put up some decent numbers.

1045
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible. I just don't know. I

1046
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: don't think i'd put him in the boom war bus

1047
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: category yet, and we're.

1048
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: Having a tough time figuring him out.

1049
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you just don't know. I mean, there

1050
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: was a lot of things that sort of leaked from

1051
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: the Packers when Aaron Rodgers was still there that led

1052
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: me to believe they didn't think Jordan Love was the guy.

1053
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: Now now he's the nominee for the party, right, and

1054
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: now everybody's gotten behind him that slung mudded for the

1055
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: last couple of years just to make a political analogy,

1056
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: Now you have to be behind him. When you hear

1057
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff coming from the Packers about how

1058
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: much they like him, they're not going to say anything else, right, Well,

1059
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that might not be Which way would

1060
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: you be betting nine and eight heading toward the playoffs

1061
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: or eight nine and not going to the playoffs. Minnesota

1062
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: is the maybe the king of that division, but they're

1063
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: not that big of the king out there. Detroit is

1064
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: a better team, but who knows if they're gonna win.

1065
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect out of the Bears.

1066
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: They could be the bottom dwellers, dangerously enough and dangerously enough.

1067
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I like the Lions the best in the division. Minnesota

1068
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: takes a massive step back this year. I like their

1069
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: head coach. What they succeeded in doing last year, which

1070
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: was the record they had with a negative point differential amazing.

1071
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: Came down to a couple of things. One being pretty

1072
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: dagone healthy, which is something that usually doesn't happen year

1073
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: to year. And again that's a statistic, the way that

1074
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: they scored and were outscored. And they haven't made their

1075
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: defense that much younger. So that's what I was worried

1076
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: about the defense last year. I don't think that they

1077
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: fix those problems. I still don't think the Bears are

1078
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: going to be very good. I like Justin Fields. I

1079
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: don't think that they have done enough around Justin Fields

1080
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: to give him all he needs to succeed.

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00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: So I'm not excited out there, you know. I want

1082
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: to say. They were talking about this at the game.

1083
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: They said the Bears have eight sacks now or nine sacks,

1084
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: and the other guy goes, hey, preseason or regular season

1085
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: nine sacks is nine sacks. I totally agree. I think

1086
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: the Bears is a team I had penciled in for

1087
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: the bottom of the division. Maybe not so fast with

1088
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: the way they.

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Speaker 1: Look, you know, I mean, who knows, right, But I'm

1090
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: very skeptical about them. I have a healthy skepticism is

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00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: what I'll call it about Jordan Love, which is just

1092
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: basically I just don't know. And I think it is

1093
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: dumb to be too hyped for Jordan Love right now.

1094
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: I hope that he is everything the Packers want him

1095
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: to be, not because I'm rooting for the Packers, but

1096
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: because I try to root for as many NFL player

1097
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: as I can. And if Jordan Loves good, that's gonna

1098
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: be better for the league because you got another top

1099
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: flight quarterback. I don't know. I'm gonna give him the

1100
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: opportunity to show me if he's the guy. I think

1101
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: that's the only fair way to approach him.

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00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: You know you can actually do. Who do you think

1103
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: is gonna be better? And we'll discuss this with our

1104
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: next quarterback, Jordan Love or Brock Purdy. I don't am

1105
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: I supposed to seven games? You're talking about seven? Am

1106
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: I supposed to say he's the best thing since he's

1107
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: won a starting job in those seven games that he

1108
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: participated in last year, he's coming off an injury. Is

1109
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: this guy really that good? Were he's just gonna be

1110
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: a top ten quarterback or something like that. I find

1111
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: it hard to believe that everybody would pass on him

1112
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he's just tearing it

1113
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: up out there. He's got to come back to down

1114
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: the earth a little bit. I gotta go. I'm not

1115
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: saying he's gonna be a boom by if I picked one,

1116
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: I would say more of a bust anything.

1117
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, But I definitely understand your

1118
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: point about the fact of where he was taken. That

1119
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: means a lot of people are not very intelligent that

1120
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: make these decisions in the NFL. And to the point

1121
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: that I made about Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud, I

1122
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: think you make the opposite point right here about Brock Party,

1123
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: which is and we and we just talked about justin

1124
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: fields in the same way Arnie brock Perty's got everything

1125
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: around him. Yes, he's got Nick Bosa and Fred Warner

1126
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: in that defense, Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, but he's got Kyle

1127
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: shanahan's genius, he's got McCaffrey he's got Ayuk, he's got Kittle,

1128
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: he's got Deebo. They are flat out loaded around him.

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00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: Of course.

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00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: So if you have a smart head coach that knows

1131
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: how to call plays, it's organized. And what Kyle Shanahan

1132
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: said about brock Party during that seven game stretch last year,

1133
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: which leads me to believe, yes, he's still going to

1134
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: be pretty good, is that brock Party is excellent at

1135
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: executing what he's asked to do. And if that and

1136
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: if you have a coach that is smart enough offensively

1137
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: to put him in positions to succeed, and all Party

1138
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: has to do is go execute. Basically like he's in

1139
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: the military. He's been given orders, Yes, sir, he goes

1140
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: out and executes those orders, and he's good at that.

1141
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna win a lot of games. And he's got

1142
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a lot of weaponry around him, and he seems to

1143
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: be perfect for that scenario, I wouldn't be shot. I

1144
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: In terms of coming down to Earth, I don't think

1145
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be as all world as he looked

1146
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: at times. I just think that so much of what

1147
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: he might fall into in terms of traps and mistakes

1148
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: are going to be covered up by the talent all

1149
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: around him on that field.

1150
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad my microphone still works because I spin

1151
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 2: out all the water I had in my mouth when

1152
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned Shanahan. Yeah, you're right, he's such the quarterback whisper.

1153
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: Nothing like going ahead and trading everybody in your whole

1154
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: system and all kinds of picks for who do they

1155
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: trade for Trey Lance? Who wouldn't even be forced string

1156
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: right now on some teams out there? Boy, you know

1157
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: what you're doing. Don't you that that worked out real

1158
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: well for you?

1159
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Didn't it? My friend, doesn't mean that you got it

1160
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: all right it Saly doesn't mean that you.

1161
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: You get fired for that pick. Talent, you get fired

1162
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: for that there, you should be fired.

1163
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: I didn't like the Trey Lance pick when it happened.

1164
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the Trey Lance pick. I remember talking

1165
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: to people, Ringer talking to people from the athletic various

1166
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: people that were coming on, uh the morning show that

1167
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: I was hosting at the time, and I would just say,

1168
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: tell me what I'm missing about Trey Lance exacause like

1169
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: what I saw was he didn't play very much. He

1170
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: missed a year of COVID, he didn't play the year

1171
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: after that, and oh, but his potential. I'm like, yeah,

1172
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: but he hasn't played much. Like, what are you talking

1173
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: about here?

1174
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: You traded a boatload they get him and what like

1175
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: he was just gonna fall into your lap. And people

1176
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 2: get fired for mistakes like that, Jason.

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Speaker 1: You do not, though, Arnie, because you've made so many

1178
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: mistakes and yet you are still that is still on

1179
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Speaker 1: Fox Boards Radio, to the chagrin of Steve Desager, who

1180
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: took the night off quite.

1181
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: Frankly, gave the night off.

1182
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Yes he's working with the Chargers, but yes, I guess

1183
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: you'll have him back tomorrow night.

1184
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: That's right.

1185
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: We will, oh feel bad for Steve. By the way,

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1190
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: So we got through some of the lists, but he's

1191
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: got ten on this list, this boom er Bus quarterbacks list.

1192
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: So we'll get deeper into Arnie's list when we come back.

1193
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: I also have a question, and maybe we don't get

1194
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: to it to the bottom of the bottom of the hour,

1195
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: but just to what your whistle a bit? What NFL

1196
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: story do you already know You're gonna be sick and

1197
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: tired of being sick and tired of hearing about come November.

1198
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of that. It's Arnie and Jason

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00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back live from tyreg

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00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: dot com Studios, Fox Sports Saturday. Here on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: His name is Arnie span Here. I'm Jason Martin. Chris

1202
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: is trying to trigger me. I was waiting for this

1203
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: to be the Arnie version. So that's not the Arnie version. No,

1204
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: I can't tell them apart. It's very tough to tell

1205
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: them apart. Rams just scored by the way.

1206
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 2: You got what that marquis Arnie?

1207
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: I like that? Goodness, Why did you do that, Arnie?

1208
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 2: I must have had a lot of drinks. That's for sure.

1209
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: Well that that might have been my guest list. I

1210
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: don't know if that would have been number one on

1211
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: I guess list, but I definitely would have gotten there

1212
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: relatively soon. I watched that Rams drive during the break,

1213
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: and I will say this, it's preseasons that'sn't been It

1214
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: looked pretty good.

1215
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: He'll, I'll get a job as a backup. I mean he'll,

1216
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, obviously not going to be a starter, but he'll, he'll,

1217
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: he'll be more than a serviceable guy if he has

1218
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: to come in. I I like, give me, looks pretty good.

1219
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: He got off to a slow start, but he's picked

1220
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: it up the last couple of drives. He looks good

1221
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: out there.

1222
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: It's funny is a couple of guys he's playing against

1223
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: for the Chargers or TCU defenders, right, we already know

1224
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: what he could do to TCU defenders. We unfortunately had

1225
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: to watch four quarters of that back in JA.

1226
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

1227
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: So back to your boom or Bust list. We've gone

1228
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: through some of these guys. I want to go through

1229
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: some more of them because, again, surprisingly enough, Arnie, I

1230
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: think this list is fairly well thought out. So I

1231
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: assume I don't.

1232
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: Know someone, Yeah, exactly, Well, the next one's a big one.

1233
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: It's too on. They picked up the fifth year of

1234
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: Miami guy I am in Miami. I think he's gonna

1235
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: be a boom but so much because first of all,

1236
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: he put up big numbers or good numbers or top

1237
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 2: three numbers at the beginning of it last year until

1238
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: he started getting all the concussions. He's got so many

1239
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: weapons around them. Believe me, I feel a lot better

1240
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: if we had that big time running back, like if

1241
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: we traded for Taylor, or if we picked up Dalvin

1242
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: Cook or just somebody out there. But I think two

1243
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: is in for a really big year where all the

1244
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: weapons he has around them, and the receivers and you know,

1245
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: the offensive line is a lot better too. It's it's

1246
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: gonna be a good year for him. So I'm gonna

1247
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: say boom for two of this year.

1248
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the the only hesitation is the obvious hesitation

1249
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: right when it comes to two, and that's just how

1250
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: much can he play? How often is he not going

1251
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: to be in there? He's just somebody again. His last

1252
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: two years at Alabama, he was knocked out multiple times

1253
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: in an sec season, right, and then we've seen what's happened,

1254
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: the concussions obviously, and everything that's gone on with them

1255
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. If he can remain up right, if

1256
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: they can block for him and he cannot take that hit,

1257
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: and by that hit, I mean the one that knocks

1258
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: him out of a game and kicks him out of

1259
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: action for a couple of weeks. Right, we know when

1260
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: he's right, what he's capable of being. He doesn't hold

1261
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: much a starter in the league.

1262
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to hold onto the ball very long.

1263
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: He can get rid of it and you know, just

1264
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: get it out of his hands, and that's all they're

1265
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: really asking him to do. So I think he's going

1266
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: to be okay.

1267
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well again, if he's healthy, then I would tend

1268
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: to agree that he's closer on the boom side. Now,

1269
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow have

1270
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: to look over their shoulder.

1271
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: No.

1272
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: No.

1273
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: Two is very much a He's somebody that can be

1274
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a tenth to fifteenth best quarterback

1275
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL because of what's around him if he's healthy.

1276
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I know this sounds like a whole lot of butts

1277
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: or caveats.

1278
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: Right, you're going down in the middle there right there. Yeah,

1279
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: I know, I guess I'm a lot of quarterbacks. It's

1280
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of them can go right

1281
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: down in the middle. As we met so far, a

1282
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: lot him we mentioned like that.

1283
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, Baker Mayfield is next on your list.

1284
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I look, I'm still surprised that he's gonna

1285
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and be a starter.

1286
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: Right there, And that's the last stop. It has to be.

1287
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: It's got to be, and I think it's going to

1288
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: be a boss. He's just got the quarterback I thought

1289
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: he was going to be. I expected him to be

1290
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: a lot better. He's had chances. Look, you can't make

1291
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: your living off what it was at one career game

1292
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: for the Rams. Is that what it was Chase in

1293
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 2: where he won that one game? So yeah, unfortunately, I'm

1294
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to go with buzz With Baker, I just

1295
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna work out for.

1296
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: Him, you know, it just it does feel like kind

1297
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: of a lost cause, you know, the Johnny Manziel doc

1298
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: is on right now, and I don't look at him

1299
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: the same way as that because I don't think it

1300
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: was ever in a preparation agreeing. I think he was

1301
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: in a bad situation. I don't know if he got

1302
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: into bad habits. From a football perspective, he didn't work thirty.

1303
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: It took him to the play so give him some credit. Now,

1304
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: we gotta give them a little bit of credit.

1305
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that that season. I've said

1306
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: this so many times. I almost hate to say it

1307
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: again because if you've listened to me for years and

1308
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: you're just like, hey, come up with another act, It's

1309
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: like I'm playing the hits at this point. But I

1310
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: think that that game where he was hurt and should

1311
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: have shut it down for the er and decided to

1312
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: stick it out, was the biggest mistake I've seen a

1313
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: player make in a while, because it did nothing for him.

1314
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: All all we saw after that point was him play

1315
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: very badly. It changed our opinion of him and put

1316
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: more pressure on him. If he had shut it down,

1317
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: we still would have had the memory of what he

1318
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: had done the year past, which was beat Ben Roethlisberger

1319
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: in the playoffs exactly and get that team to the playoffs.

1320
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Him trying to do the manly, gutsy you know, I

1321
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: want to play through it thing. Laudable though it may be,

1322
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: Arnie was a big time mistake for his future.

1323
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: Right Look, I know we're a herd on him at time,

1324
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: so we should probably give him a lot more credit.

1325
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: Like I said, you took over a team that was

1326
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: one in thirty. I don't even know how many coaches

1327
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: you went through or offensive coordinators, but I tought you

1328
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: I could say you were. He was successful for the

1329
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: most part in Cleveland. To be honest, I just don't

1330
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: think it's gonna work out for him this year.

1331
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: No, And he's not. He's not with a team that

1332
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: you look at and think very much of right now

1333
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: that that team is a far cry from the one

1334
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: that won a Super Bowl coming. Yes, I'm not looking

1335
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: at the same unit right now. Number seven, you've got

1336
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. We talking about him.

1337
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: It's easy. He's gonna be horrible. It's it's just not there.

1338
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: You could see it, And I don't care. You think,

1339
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: first of all, even if there was no preseason games

1340
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: and we're doing a you know, prelimb, what do you

1341
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 2: think is gonna happen during the year. If we did

1342
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: this like two three weeks ago, I would say it's

1343
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: not gonna work out for Russell Wilson. He's too old.

1344
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: He doesn't have it anymore. And even after the first

1345
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: preseason game, I'm still sticking with that's he's just too old.

1346
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I heard been talking about this.

1347
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: They both Harbin and I think it was Jeff Schwartz say.

1348
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: They both say that he's not going to be on

1349
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: the team after this year. They're all into Sean Payton.

1350
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: The new ownership is behind him. Russell Wilson was signed

1351
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: by the old regime. I think this is the last

1352
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 2: year for Russell Wilson.

1353
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 8: Now.

1354
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: See, I don't disagree with you, and you know who

1355
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: I am. I'm Broncos guy, Broncos fan, have been my

1356
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: whole life. I believe that Sean Payton does not take

1357
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: the job if the Broncos ownership did not promise him

1358
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: that if it did not work out this year with Russ,

1359
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: that they would get rid of Russ. Right.

1360
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 2: I agree.

1361
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 1: I have believe that from day one that they they

1362
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: basically Sean Payton's not taking that job knowing that he's

1363
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: stuck with Russell Wilson. If Russell Wilson's nothing, that he's

1364
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: stuck with him for three to five years, It's just

1365
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: not going to be that way. Sean Payton knows. It's

1366
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: like either I can turn him around or I get

1367
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: rid of him and I can bring in my guy.

1368
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: He could be out of the NFL in a year.

1369
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: He could be how unless he's demands still getting big money.

1370
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: And now if he comes in with a big discount,

1371
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 2: maybe he's around. But he could be out.

1372
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: When it said none, I'm not willing to say he

1373
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: is done. But if you turned out to be right, Arnie,

1374
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: I certainly would not be surprised if you were were

1375
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: accurate on that. I mean, it's very very very possible.

1376
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: Also possible, in fact guaranteed, is that we're gonna hear

1377
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: from Nick Cope right now and find out the latest

1378
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: in the world of sports. So we go out to

1379
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: Sherby Oaks. What's going on? Nick?

1380
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 7: All right, guys, thank you very much. We do have

1381
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 7: one preseason game still going on. Chargers and Rams. Just

1382
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 7: had a long touchdown run for the Chargers. They're leading

1383
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 7: this one twenty six to fourteen in the fourth quarter.

1384
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 7: Other storylines in preseason games today, Bryce Young, the number

1385
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 7: one overall pick, made his debut for the Panthers. He

1386
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 7: played three series, wasn't able to pick up a first down,

1387
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 7: just four of six for twenty one yards and a

1388
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 7: Jets crushing the Panthers twenty seven and nothing. Trevor Lawrence played.

1389
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 7: He threw a pick on his first throat today, but

1390
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 7: later would lead a touchdown drive. Jacksonville beat Dallas twenty

1391
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 7: eight twenty three. Starting offense look good in their win

1392
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 7: against the Titans, justin fields three of three of buck

1393
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 7: twenty nine and two touchdowns, one of those to his

1394
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 7: new wide out DJ Moore took a screen past sixty

1395
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 7: two yards to the house. Had DeMar Hamlin making three

1396
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 7: tackles while playing for the first time since suffering cardiac

1397
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,959
Speaker 7: arrest on the field seven months ago. In that same game,

1398
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 7: Colts ricky quarterback Anthony Richardson made his debut. Struggled to

1399
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 7: move the Indy offense. He was seven of twelve sixty

1400
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 7: seven yards in an interception. Didn't get to run that

1401
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 7: much either, just twice for seven yards. Bills beat the

1402
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 7: Colts in that one. Outside of game action, news that

1403
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 7: Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker the third return to practice today.

1404
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 7: He's been out since the early part of training camp

1405
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 7: with a groin injury. In the NBA es Peter reports

1406
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 7: the Sixers have ended trade talks for James Harden, and

1407
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 7: they intend to have him at him at training camp

1408
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 7: to start next season. The report says Philly had occasional

1409
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 7: talks with Hardin's desired landing spot, the Clippers, but those

1410
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 7: talks never god very far. College football reports se Michigan

1411
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 7: coach Jim Harbaugh's negotiated four game suspension with the NCAA

1412
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 7: for recruiting violations has been denied by the Committee on Infractions.

1413
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 7: There's not likely to be a resolution on this until

1414
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, which means Harbaugh looks in line to

1415
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 7: coach all games coming up this season. Let's go to baseball,

1416
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 7: where we've got just a couple games still going on

1417
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 7: scoreless between the Orioles and the Mariners in Seattle. Seattle's

1418
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 7: got an eight game winning streak. That one is in

1419
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 7: the seventh inning. Rangers are adding some insurance runs here

1420
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 7: on the Giants. They lead seven to two in the

1421
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 7: ninth inning. Had the Dodgers just won their seventh in

1422
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 7: a row moments ago, four to one over the Rockies,

1423
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 7: they've got an eight game lead in the division. On

1424
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 7: San Francisco, Brave swept a doubleheader against the Mets. Matt

1425
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 7: Olsen homer twice in the first game that was a

1426
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 7: twenty one to three win earlier for Atlanta, and Olsen

1427
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 7: now leads the big leagues with forty two home runs.

1428
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 7: US edge the Blue Jays five to four. The Brewers

1429
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 7: got a three run seventh to beat the White Sox

1430
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 7: three to two, so Milwaukee maintains a two and a

1431
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 7: half game lead in the NL Central Marlins were able

1432
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 7: to top the Yankees three to one. Miami is just

1433
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 7: a half game back of Chicago for that final NL

1434
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 7: wild card spot. Cincinnati has also tied with Miami in

1435
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 7: that same position as well. Astros crush the Angels eleven

1436
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 7: to three. Angels have lost now nine of eleven since

1437
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 7: the deadline. Rays walked off the Guardian six to five,

1438
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 7: Diamondbacks shut out the Padres three to nothing, twins no

1439
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 7: problem against the Phillies eight to one, and the Tigers

1440
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 7: handled the Red Sox six to two. Let's go back

1441
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 7: to Jason Martin and Arney Spaniard.

1442
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Nick, and I appreciate the Braves update. We'll

1443
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: go to you every two minutes to reiterate twenty one

1444
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: to three as the Falcons beat the Giant. Nope, Braves

1445
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: beat the Milts.

1446
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty field go out. Yeah, twenty seven to three

1447
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 7: on aggregate. Today for the Braves over the Mets.

1448
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1449
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: And then yesterday, Oh that was impressive.

1450
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: What was it like, nine hits in seven walks and

1451
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: they couldn't score a run. That's impressive.

1452
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you man, it's uh. It's been tough to

1453
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: be a fan of the Broncos, but it sure hasn't

1454
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: to have been a lifelong fan of the Braves over

1455
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: the last few years. I mean, I'll tell you lose

1456
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,759
Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman and we still miss Freddy, and we replace

1457
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: him with Matt Olsen, and Olsen has forty two home

1458
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: runs right now out in a massive slump, like his

1459
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: first month was not good at all at the dish,

1460
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: and he has now become, you know, borderline MVP level

1461
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: candidate along with Akunya. Everybody's got struggles. We'll talk more baseball,

1462
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure a little bit later on, but I do

1463
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: want to go ahead and finish up your list, and

1464
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: then I want to jump into the idea of the

1465
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: storylines in the NFL that you already know you're going

1466
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: to be sick and tired of before we even get

1467
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: to November. Number eight. Lamar Jackson, Who boy, I mean,

1468
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: got the bag?

1469
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: You gotta stay healthy. The guy has missed was it

1470
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: six games or seven games? A lot last couple of years.

1471
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: In case you didn't know this too, the guy could

1472
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: turn the ball over like he has the last couple

1473
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: of years. Also, look, he's healthy now, they've got people

1474
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: around him. I gotta say, boom right. I can't see

1475
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: where he's going to be a bust. He's got that

1476
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 2: five year contract, he's ready to go, he's got the money,

1477
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: he's got people around them. What more do you want.

1478
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: He's healthy, He's got to be a boom right. There

1479
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: shouldn't be a question here, should there?

1480
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think that you have a better

1481
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: chance of it this year than you have in the pass.

1482
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: And it's not because of who they've put around him,

1483
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: but who they've taken away from him. Greg Roman is

1484
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 1: no longer the ocite, right right, And I just think

1485
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: that that was the biggest problem there. Now it's injuries too.

1486
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, I'm just talking about when he was

1487
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: on the field right where he would turn the ball

1488
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: over and as what they were doing the offense that

1489
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: they were running, and I think that that was one

1490
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: of the discouragements from other receivers wanting to go there

1491
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: to play alongside Lamar. I think now we're gonna find

1492
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: out what Lamar Jackson is as everything, meaning what he

1493
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: can do when it's really in his hands, because at

1494
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: this point, now that he has secured the bag, he's

1495
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna be running that offense, but he's gonna be running

1496
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,480
Speaker 1: it in a different way. They're gonna unleash him differently,

1497
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: and I want to see it, Like I think the

1498
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: boom potential is certainly there. But this is where we

1499
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,520
Speaker 1: are going to find out if the critique about him

1500
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: for the early part of his career has legitimacy or not.

1501
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna learn a whole lot about Lamar Jackson because

1502
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: I've placed a lot of the blame on Greg Roman.

1503
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: Now that Greg Roman's gone, there's no one else to

1504
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: blame but Lamar Jackson.

1505
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 2: Is he still going to be running the ball like

1506
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: he has the last couple of years or is he

1507
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: gonna curtail that a little bit so he doesn't get hurt.

1508
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: Well, if they think he can throw, they want him

1509
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: to throw from the pocket, then we'll see him through

1510
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: the football more.

1511
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: You just not have a good it's just as good

1512
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: of an arm as he does, does I don't? I? No, No,

1513
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: maybe he's a little bit better. How about that.

1514
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm just not even gonna respond.

1515
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 2: He does have the best arm there, Jason, You know that,

1516
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: don't you?

1517
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he's not Justin Herbert or Matthew Stafford

1518
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: or somebody or Josh Allen or somebody like that, but

1519
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: can throw a nice ball.

1520
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Is it insulting if I say, who would you rather have?

1521
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson or artist Manfields?

1522
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

1523
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: No, no, or Justin Fields. But you're talking about an MVP, right,

1524
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, but not from throwing the football, no, So okay,

1525
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: so that's from everything else that he was doing. Okay.

1526
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 1: I do think that he got better, but I definitely

1527
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: think there are flaws there, and this is a year

1528
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: where that's gonna be shown or it's going to be

1529
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: revealed to have been a large part of the coordinator

1530
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: and the schemes faults.

1531
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: What you're saying, boom, then yeah you're going with boom.

1532
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: You're not going down the middle on this one, too,

1533
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 2: are you?

1534
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 1: I Like, I like the chances for this to work. Yeah,

1535
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: that would be my take. Jimmy G.

1536
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: Number nine, No, No, unfortunately, And you know I like Jimmy,

1537
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: but it's just very much now. It's just too much now,

1538
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 2: too many injuries. Look what he's had a chance to play,

1539
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: he's been pretty good. I think we've got to give

1540
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: a little bit more credit than we have been. It's

1541
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 2: just not gonna work out with this team. This team

1542
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: is just miserable. They're awful. He doesn't have anything around him.

1543
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a really bad year for

1544
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy G. H.

1545
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: I tend to think that that's probably true. I mean,

1546
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: Adams Adams got got danged up, but you're still gonna

1547
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: have Vante Adams, Right, you're gonna have your twoe with

1548
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, who have some familiarity with Garoppolo going back

1549
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 1: to their days with the Patriots. Not having Darren Waller

1550
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: is a big deal, a massive deal. Jimmy G has

1551
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: proven to be. He's better than his worst critics say

1552
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: he is. But he's just not special like he is

1553
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: somebody that can be a very good caretaker, but if

1554
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: you're asking him to go win you the game, he's

1555
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: one of the last guys that I want in that

1556
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: situation to have to make that throw late in the

1557
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And we saw all we needed to see

1558
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs when he miss Sanders.

1559
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: That's one miss. So we're gonna hold it. We're gonna

1560
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: hold that against him for the rest of his life.

1561
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: Now, it's just one example. I don't have time to

1562
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 1: lay out all that apples and turnovers and other things

1563
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: that have happened. He can win a lot of games

1564
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: from the Fox Sport.

1565
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 2: There's no doubt he can win games, but unfortunately in

1566
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: a situation where he's not going to win games now.

1567
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: So we got one more on the list, and we'll

1568
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: do that after the break. I won't even tell you

1569
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: who it is, but it is a big time name

1570
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of questions as to what

1571
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: this guy is going to do this year. And then

1572
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna look into the question as we go into

1573
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: the third hour of the show, the NFL stories, we

1574
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: already know we're gonna be sick and tired of hearing

1575
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: about come November. All of that still to come. We're

1576
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: not even halfway through this, Puppy folks, stick around with us.

1577
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: Is Jason Martin Here, Arnie Spanier on Fox Sports Radio,

1578
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: Welcome back, finishing up our number two here, Fox Sports

1579
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: Saturday Live, Tyrack dot Com Studios, Arnie Spanier joining me tonight.

1580
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,879
Speaker 1: I'm Jason Martin, arratorres taking the final, probably the final Saturday.

1581
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: He's gonna take off this year barring something we hope

1582
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. But he's with family. And then, of course

1583
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: football continuing to ramp up right now in front of us.

1584
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the Chargers twenty seven to

1585
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: fourteen over the rams. It is interesting that we're seeing

1586
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: Arnie Stetson, Bennett and Max Duggan. It is the same way.

1587
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: That's funny, isn't it.

1588
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: It is. I don't know that. I well, maybe Max

1589
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: Duggan's trying to get a measure of revenge.

1590
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: I think he could be. I think he can stick around. Also,

1591
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,600
Speaker 2: you know, he might not be a starter, but I

1592
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: think he could be a pretty good backup out there.

1593
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 2: I think you can see him stick around.

1594
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: Look, man, being a backup is not a terrible job.

1595
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all, No way is it.

1596
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you get to step in and you

1597
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: don't know what you can make of it. I mean,

1598
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: you can look at a guy like Fitzpatrick or some.

1599
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: Of these guys, you play like a game or two.

1600
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 2: In a seventeen games a year, you'll play like a

1601
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: game or two.

1602
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. With the injury rate and everything else,

1603
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some opportunities. And these are two guys

1604
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: that shined in college. Neither one of them was talked

1605
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: up that much compared to some of the other bigger names,

1606
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: but I definitely have come away feeling like they've both

1607
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: done pretty well for themselves in this game. As a

1608
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: rams are I guess kicking a field goal to stay

1609
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: in this thing. They're down thirteen, that'll make it a

1610
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: ten point game. All right, final guy on your list,

1611
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Boom or Plus we've done that all the way through

1612
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: the second hour. If you download the podcast the Weekend

1613
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: Round of Podcasts and all that, you can catch up

1614
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: if you've missed the other nine guys that we have

1615
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: talked about. This was Arnie Spaniards list, and I actually

1616
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: really liked it, which I know is is something often

1617
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: not said. Artie did something and I liked it, But

1618
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: I actually like this list enough that I haven't really

1619
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: added to it. Number ten Boom or bust man by

1620
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: the name of Rogers. Yeah, that being a a Ron

1621
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 1: Rogers of the New York Jets.

1622
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: Last but not least certainly, no doubt about that. A

1623
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 2: couple of things on this, You know, part of me

1624
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: wants to say he could be a boom, but the

1625
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: fact is, the first seven games are brutal. Though probably

1626
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 2: I said one in six, the more I look at it,

1627
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: probably two and five. He may put up decent numbers,

1628
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: but I think it's gonna be a tough goal for him,

1629
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: especially in those first seven games. He's gonna throw some

1630
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: interceptions that he's not used to throw. Remember he had

1631
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: that pretty good streak at where he didn't throw interceptions

1632
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: when he was with Green Bay. I don't think it's

1633
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: gonna be like that this time around. I don't want

1634
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: to be down the middle on this, but I think

1635
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna be more of a bust in a boom

1636
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: because the expectations are so high went the Jets. I mean,

1637
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: if Jet fans thinks they're going to the super Bowl,

1638
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: non Jet fans think they're at least they're gonna go

1639
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: ahead and go to the playoffs. At least everybody jumping

1640
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 2: on their ball wagon, and I think it could be

1641
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 2: more of a bus rihim than anything.

1642
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be. I mean two and five.

1643
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: What are the Jets looking at? Right off the top?

1644
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: I think that's the first thing we need to look

1645
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: at because two and if they start out two and five,

1646
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna be. Yeah.

1647
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: They open up against Buffalo at Dallas, New England, Kansas

1648
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: City at Denver, Philadelphia, and then at the Giants again,

1649
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: so before that bye week, so that that's murderous out there,

1650
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 2: that's just absolutely murderous.

1651
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: They're possibly three and two five weeks in. Maybe maybe

1652
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 1: they're two and three. I think that's probably worst case scenario. Eagles.

1653
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: That's gonna be tough Giants. I could see them. I

1654
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: could see them being the Giants.

1655
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: It's on the road. I mean they have to fight

1656
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: off that tough early schedule. Look, you're playing.

1657
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,600
Speaker 1: It's on the road. Yeah, the Jets against the Giants,

1658
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: it's on the road.

1659
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry when am

1660
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: I thinking about that? But the game against Kansas City,

1661
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia game. But the good thing and the Jets

1662
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 2: have in their favor they're both home games, so you

1663
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: know that works in their favor there, but it's still

1664
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 2: a murder's early six seven games there.

1665
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like their chances to go to

1666
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: Dallas potentially, and when New England. We've talked about this before.

1667
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: New English is not going to be very good. They

1668
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: didn't do with it. Yeah, I think so. I think

1669
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: that's not only is that fair, I think that is probable.

1670
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: I think probable. But that the big question is does

1671
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: that mean it's spelling checks last year? That's the question.

1672
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: We're not going to know until we know.

1673
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 2: And if he finishes and last it's going to be

1674
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: his last year.

1675
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: It depends on how they finished, and last depends on

1676
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: as the team quit. Does he look like he has

1677
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: dialed out? Has he had conversations behind closed doors? It

1678
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: says time to step away.

1679
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: Not only that they don't have it's like there's no

1680
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: help in the horizon. It's not like they have some

1681
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: great young shod rookie quarterback that's going to be good

1682
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: two three years from now, but.

1683
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,440
Speaker 1: They do have the coach in waiting. Well, reportedly or allegedly,

1684
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: they've got Mayo sitting there right right, and Mayo's ready?

1685
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get there?

1686
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: Well? We know is it's not going to be Matt Patricia.

1687
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, why isn't it going to be a son?

1688
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: Uh?

1689
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

1690
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just the shots on the sideline of

1691
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: him with the camera, I don't think you can do that.

1692
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 2: Believe me, he could be.

1693
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: He could be.

1694
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 2: I if I was gonna bet this, i'd bet that

1695
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: he'd be the next head coach of the Patriots. My

1696
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: bet would be You're probably right on that, but I'd

1697
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: take a long shot. I mean, it's not be out

1698
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 2: the realm of possibility, That's all I'm saying.

1699
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: So, what do you think the Jets? The Jets are

1700
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: the end of the year. What's the storyline there?

1701
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: I I think they're right there at like a nine

1702
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 2: and eight, maybe even ten and seven.

1703
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: Now, has Rogers played?

1704
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 2: Rogers has played? Okay, because he's gonna have struggle early,

1705
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 2: but then it'll turn it up the second half of

1706
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: the schedule, so he'll pull him to the toward the playoffs.

1707
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I mean that's that's a fairly reason

1708
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: will take. Yeah, So we're gonna open up our three

1709
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. We're going to talk

1710
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: about storylines. We know where we feel like we're already

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Speaker 1: going to be sick and tired of by the time

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Speaker 1: we get to November. And the reason I asked the

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Speaker 1: question about the Jets at the end of the year

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01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: is because I think some people are going to be

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Speaker 1: tired of the Jets. That's not the one I'll go with,

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Speaker 1: but we will talk about those scenarios. To open the

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Speaker 1: third hour, it's already in Jmart here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hope your Saturday's going well, We'll be right back. It

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Speaker 1: here the Power Hour as already span your calls in notes.

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Speaker 2: Aren't you ready for a little college football?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with that?

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Speaker 1: You got? I'm actually about to talk to you about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the college football giru. You love that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I love college football, though. Two, I gotta just I'm

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Speaker 2: just so bummed out the way everything plays.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about it. I literally wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about it next, so I guess

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Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto would join us next hour. Of course, he

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Speaker 1: follows us on these airwaves, extended chat. Coming up with

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Speaker 1: Bernie in the fourth hour of the show. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. All right, Arnie, So I really have wanted

1743
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: to talk to you all week about this. You're an

1744
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: Arizona guy, yeah, and now you're a Big twelve guy.

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01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 2: I can't even tell you, if you like quiz me,

1746
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: who's in what conference for the next year. I don't

1747
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: think I can give you all who's wearing, what's going on,

1748
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: and who moved where. I I'm thoroughly confused, but I

1749
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: do know obviously Arizona's going to the Big twelve. I

1750
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: am happy about that because the PAC twelve was obviously

1751
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: a complete mess. It's just going to disintegrate. I feel

1752
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: bad for Sanford and cal and Oregon State and Washington State.

1753
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: As matter of fact, I talked a little bit about this. Yes, say,

1754
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Stanford and col get the

1755
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: short end of the stick here. I think if we

1756
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: had to sit down and all do it all over again,

1757
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: maybe we could have come up with super conferences and

1758
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: done this thing a little bit better, a little bit

1759
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: more organized, and a little bit more not such find

1760
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 2: people's backs to say, the money is what drives it.

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01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: I know people are upset about that, but I'm not

1762
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: upset about the money. You know, people are like, well,

1763
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: what about the kids? They got to travel so much.

1764
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: I don't care about that, because if you had asked

1765
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: me three years ago, maybe i'd care about it. But

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01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: now that the kids are getting nil money, you're a

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01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: professional as far as I concerned, So travel the extra

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01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 2: whatever it's got to be because you're making nil money.

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Speaker 2: I do hate that, you know, the PAC twelve looks

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01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: like either they're gonna get some of those teams like

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01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: San Diego State from the Mountain West or whatever it is,

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: or they're just gonna have to just fall away. We're

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01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 2: in a new time. Jason and I would have loved

1774
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: Arizona to go to the SEC I didn't think the

1775
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big twelve and all that we're gonna

1776
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: take more teams. So this whole second round was a

1777
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: little bit of a shock. And shame on the PAC

1778
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: twelve for turning down the thirty million dollars because they

1779
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna get fifty million dollars. You know,

1780
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm not the big business guy, but I do know this.

1781
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: Anything that comes out after COVID, you know, things weren't

1782
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 2: gonna take a while to get back to normal. So

1783
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: whatever you thought you were gonna make in sales, whether

1784
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: you was TV right, so whether you own a Hamburger stam,

1785
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,839
Speaker 2: you know that profits were never gonna be the same.

1786
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 2: Because people took a big hit during COVID, they should

1787
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: have realized that they really screwed this whole thing up.

1788
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 2: And this is the solution to that right now. And

1789
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: it's a complete mess.

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01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they got caught flat footed. It feels like

1791
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: because they had they had multi talking, they had multi opportunities,

1792
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: Arnie to do something differently that would have resulted in

1793
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: them being one of the conferences left standing.

1794
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: Was it too late though? Once you in USC you

1795
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 2: left and.

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01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: It was yes, But I think before that happens. I

1797
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: think it was under Scott's leadership where the failures happened

1798
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: over and over and over, and where you just got

1799
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: caught like you had a blindfold on or you just

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01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: it's like there was a complacency that well, we're the

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01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: pac twelve, we're not going anywhere, right, Well, now you

1802
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: see what that looks like. And you talk about Cowen

1803
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Stanford like I grew up on tobacco Road in acc Territory. Right,

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01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing more ludicrous to me than something called the

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: Atlantic Coast Conference bringing someone right over by the Pacific Ocean.

1806
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: But we don't. None of this matters anymore. I think

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01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: that the thing that's fascinating to me. I saw this

1808
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: floated in a couple of different articles during the week

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: college football removing conferences. Every other sport on campus still

1810
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: remaining in conferences that make sense, but college fo breaking

1811
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 1: apart from that into something completely unique and independent the

1812
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: other sports. Because it makes sense in football because of

1813
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: the money, because of the television contracts and all that,

1814
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: but in a lot of situations outside of football, it

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: makes no sense at all. So anyways, the big casualties

1816
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot of sports that get dropped

1817
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: from various universities the.

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Speaker 2: Way you lost me. So you mean state conference wise

1819
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,799
Speaker 2: in football or not in football, then.

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01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Not in football, remove conferences all together in football.

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01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: Somebody you have just like a whole bunch of independent teams.

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Speaker 1: There, or what seems like it. That's the idea that

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01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: I read. I'm not necessarily saying I favor this, I

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: favor that. I'm saying that I've seen the idea of

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01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: all right, so you've got a certain amount of teams,

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01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: and these would be your bigger, your bigger schools for

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01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: the most part, I guess I don't know what the

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: number would be, but all of them would be situated together.

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: But that wouldn't necessitate all these other kind of weird

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01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: super conference amalgams that don't make sense for any other sports,

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01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: or maybe make sense a little bit for college basketball.

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01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 1: And that's about it. I mean, this is a football

1833
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 1: first move and it's a football first country. Again. I'm

1834
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: not saying I agree with that. I'm just saying that

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: we are seeing some things floating around. And one of

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01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: the reasons why is there is no there's no authority

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01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 1: right now that can actually curtail what's happening. Organize it,

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01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: structure it in a way where they can hold it together.

1839
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: And so I don't know what it looks like in

1840
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: five years, but I would not have bet five years

1841
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: ago that we would be having the kind of conversations

1842
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: that we're having today.

1843
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: No way, no way, you're right about that. I guess

1844
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: geography really didn't make a big deal. I used to

1845
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: think that that was a big deal.

1846
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 8: Well.

1847
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: I used to think, Wow, the Arizona schools, they go

1848
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: to the Big twelve, the SEC plank and I used

1849
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: to argue about this all the time. He thought the

1850
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: Pac twelve, what was going to be saved? You know, look,

1851
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm a tradition type guy. I'm still bummed out there's

1852
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: not Oklahoma and stuff like that. And I think that's

1853
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 2: what college football is about, is about the rivalries. Maybe

1854
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: we'll create new ones and maybe you know what, UCLA

1855
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: and USC go to the Big Ten. I'm sure we

1856
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: will when they have to play Michigan and the Ohio State.

1857
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: So that's some great football, and it really does. I

1858
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: think it's the small schools that get the short end

1859
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 2: of this thing.

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01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: Short, absolutely, I mean the ones that really and I

1861
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: said this last week to Aaron Torres. The two schools

1862
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I feel the worst about are not Cowen Stanford, is

1863
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 1: Washington State and Oregon State, right, and the versions of

1864
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: that that you're gonna find in other conferences, because the

1865
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: next step through all this college realignment is an assessment

1866
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: of which programs, what have you done for me lately?

1867
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: About some of these I wouldn't call them bottom feeders,

1868
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: but ones that don't benefit you the way in Ohio

1869
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: State and Michigan do in the Big tent. If tradition

1870
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore, and rivalries are taking second fiddle to

1871
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: television deals and all of that kind of thing, and

1872
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: location doesn't matter anymore, what's to stop? And why would

1873
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: you blame a big ten or an sec or whoever

1874
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: from saying, yeah, you know what, Vanderbilt get out.

1875
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 2: I was just about to say, soon they're gonna come

1876
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: to you and they're gonna say Vanderbilt get out. And

1877
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: then what are you gonna say with that? Because obviously

1878
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: you're in Tennessee, well see, you will see what people

1879
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 2: are gonna you know, mentioned about that when you're gonna

1880
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: start kicking teams out, you know.

1881
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: What I mean? But yeah, I mean, but but I

1882
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: the reason I mentioned Vanderbilt is because one of the

1883
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of question marks right now is Stanford, and Stanford

1884
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: is a better version of Vanderbilt. And I'm not talking

1885
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: about I'm not making an academic connotation here. I'm saying

1886
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: from an athletic standpoint, Stanford has been better in revenue

1887
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: generating sports than Vanderbilt on a consistent basis for a

1888
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 1: very long time. And Stanford can't find a home right now.

1889
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: They've got four schools at a SEC that don't want the men.

1890
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: They I don't know what they want. They don't want

1891
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: to say exactly. They don't want to share the pie,

1892
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,879
Speaker 1: and they don't think Stanford's going to bring in anything.

1893
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: And maybe wrong, maybe we need a new like another

1894
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: IVY league where you got Stanford, cal Vanderbilt, Northwestern. But

1895
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Northwestern's a big trouble. You know, they're gonna be a

1896
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: bottom feeder that's not always been a bottom feeder. There

1897
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: there's four great academic schools you com pair together right there,

1898
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: you know, Yeah.

1899
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's an interesting thought. I mean, the

1900
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: current IVY League is, you know, well, football is not

1901
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 1: really a thing for the most part, but generally those

1902
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: are schools that you only hear from them when it

1903
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: comes to n CUAA tournament exactly Harvard will get in

1904
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: or Princeton will get in Arizona. I remember that. Yeah,

1905
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I did not mention that, by the way, intentionally to

1906
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: to dog out. I'd actually forgotten that. I just kind

1907
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 1: of look at it. I mean, that's interesting because you

1908
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: could look at there are some blue blood schools right right.

1909
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: That all right, So let's think about that because I

1910
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: had not thought about it. So you you mentioned Vanderbilt,

1911
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: You've got Stanford in the Northwestern cow how many more

1912
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: teams them?

1913
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't Michigan, which is a great academic,

1914
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: academic school, is never going to go ahead and leave there.

1915
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: So no, But I mean think about like Duke, if

1916
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: it depends on what happens to acc right, Yeah, yeah,

1917
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: Duke's probably safe because of their college basketball, like that

1918
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: makes them a valuable property for others to have. If

1919
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: they didn't, they wouldn't be worth anything if they didn't

1920
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: have men's college basketball and to some degree women's but

1921
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: women's not revenue generator. If they didn't have the coach

1922
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: k legacy, they wouldn't be in any position to be

1923
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: talking about anything that's not.

1924
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Speaker 2: A bad one. Duke is a good one. Great academic

1925
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: school there, there's five. But now you're going from the

1926
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: south all the way to the northwest.

1927
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Speaker 1: And what about Georgia Tech.

1928
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is another good one there. That's an awesome

1929
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 2: one too.

1930
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Speaker 1: So I mean there's I mean, yeah, it's excellent school.

1931
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I both lived in Atlanta at

1932
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,560
Speaker 1: different times, and I mean that's an unbelievable academic unit university.

1933
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: And look at times Bobby Krimmen's era, there were some

1934
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: great Georgia Tech teams and they're something great Georgia o'

1935
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: leary teams and things like that on the football field

1936
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: as well. So that's intriguing to me. I don't think

1937
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,520
Speaker 1: that happens, but I would be I would be interested

1938
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:17,520
Speaker 1: in seeing if you did see the Super Conference realignment

1939
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: stuff continue to spiral to where we're gonna kick you

1940
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: out and bring in Florida State. We're gonna kick you

1941
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: out and bring in this team that has a little

1942
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 1: bit more pizazed from a television standpoint, if there would

1943
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: be some kind of a fallback idea for some of

1944
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: those higher universities.

1945
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 2: How much does the Florida Florida States and the Miamis

1946
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: of the world. How much is that? Do they still

1947
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 2: have cache? I mean, it's not like they're in big markets. Tallahassee,

1948
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: Miami's a big market, but they're not big in Miami

1949
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:50,520
Speaker 2: at all. So, you know, Gainesville a big football town.

1950
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 2: You know how much cashe do they have? How many

1951
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,719
Speaker 2: do you want? Well, Florida's gonna be in there anyway.

1952
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's a good question.

1953
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know from a television stamp. From just a

1954
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: market standpoint is one thing. But I think if you

1955
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: look at it past that, it's what the brand means.

1956
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: What does Florida State football mean nationally? I don't think

1957
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: we've all aged out of a time where Florida State

1958
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: was awesome, but not nearly as not twice to ye,

1959
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: that's true, But we're not in Nebraska territory, you know

1960
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like Nebraska, it's been a long long

1961
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,879
Speaker 1: road Florida State. I mean, we remember Jimbo and Jameis Winston.

1962
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: It hasn't been that long since they were sort of

1963
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: back on the scene. And Miami was a top ten

1964
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: team a few years ago, and Miami is another brand

1965
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 1: that just won't die. I mean, if have multiple documentaries

1966
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 1: and everything else, I think they're I think they're both

1967
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: still there's still universities that you would want. Both of

1968
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: them are also pretty solid college baseball programs. I know

1969
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: that's not the be all end all, and they've actually

1970
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: both had pretty solid college basketball programs in recent years

1971
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: as well, not to discourage that. So I do think

1972
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: there's still assets there. I think that I don't know

1973
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: who it is that gets left out, but there are

1974
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: going to be a number of universities that are just

1975
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: they've been common to matter that are now going to

1976
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: matter so much less. And the ACC's television rights deal

1977
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: and everything that is surrounding it. I really was curious

1978
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: with you, being somebody that went to a PAC twelve school,

1979
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 1: if you would even talk to people back in the

1980
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: day or people that you knew back in the day

1981
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and gotten their opinion on this. What is the consensus?

1982
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 1: What do people feel like around to Arizona.

1983
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: You know, I still talk to my fraternity brothers and

1984
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: were more like, you know what, we never want to

1985
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 2: pack ten PAC twelve titlesone. You know, maybe that has

1986
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 2: something to do with it, but we're like, you know,

1987
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 2: most of them are sad. You know, remember going to

1988
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: the games, there was some great rivalries and what point,

1989
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: Arizona was third in the country behind Oklahoma Nebraska in

1990
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 2: one of the polls. But those days are over though,

1991
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: you know. Tradition is gone, rivalries are gone. You know,

1992
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: people of conferences. It's sad, but you move on. My friends,

1993
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: my thirty brothers are like, hey, we're bummed out, but

1994
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 2: what the hell, let's go ahead and just kick. But

1995
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve, welcome new teams and new rivalries,

1996
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: so it maybe work out better for us anyway for

1997
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 2: travel too.

1998
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this. You're talking about the football side,

1999
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve from a college basketball standpoint, yeah, yikes,

2000
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: that is gonna be a loaded conference.

2001
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 2: Kansas, Baylor, Arizona.

2002
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I mean even like TCU and what

2003
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 1: we've seen, what we saw that they were the best

2004
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 1: conference in basketball. Now you go, you know you got

2005
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: the Houstons and like that is a conference right there

2006
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 1: in college basketball that's gonna be all world to watch.

2007
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 1: I know football makes the world go round, But the

2008
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: Big twelves original kind of rallying cry this last year

2009
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: or the way that they pivoted was we're gonna go

2010
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: try to own college basketball. And I thought that was

2011
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: brilliant at the time, and now I think it's even

2012
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: more brilliant, not because what they've acquired, but because they

2013
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: made they made a business decision that made sense and

2014
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: we're forward thinking. Well, the PAC twelve just sat back

2015
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: on their laurels. It's almost like a quiet arrogance. They

2016
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: just thought they were going to be there because they

2017
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: were the PAC twelve, and there was a rude awakening

2018
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: and it was too late. Yeah.

2019
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 2: PAC twelve was always something like three to four teams,

2020
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: you know. Now it used to be a conference I

2021
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: would say, like six seven teams, and slowly but surely,

2022
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 2: one by one, it became less and less and less,

2023
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: and you know, and then people stopped watching it because

2024
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: it was on so late at night on the West coast.

2025
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 2: So it's always had that problem there, Jason.

2026
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 1: So two things that I want to talk about when

2027
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 1: you come back. I want to go back and pay

2028
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: off the tees. The storylines in the NFL. We already

2029
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 1: think we're gonna be tired of by November, and then

2030
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: after the update Eric b Enemy and the Commanders, we're

2031
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna get into that topic. Don't go anywhere. By the way,

2032
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Speaker 1: here on FSR. Walk back in Jason Martinarni Spaniard with

2044
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 1: you here Fox Sports Saturday, rolling right through an evening

2045
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: of preseason football, some MLB baseball, some NBA Hall of Fame.

2046
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get the tweets later on too.

2047
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 2: People are you know they're bringing up some good points

2048
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 2: on the college football stuff.

2049
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll do that here in just a

2050
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 1: second before we jump back into the NFL. All right, Arnie,

2051
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 1: hit me with a few of those tweets.

2052
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: All right, Randy says in e you agrees with you,

2053
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 2: says gentlemen, I'm with Rick Patinos tweet earlier this week.

2054
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: It's about money, so football, maybe basketball should totally be separate,

2055
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: owned commissioner and leave all the other sports alone, which

2056
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,440
Speaker 2: is what your point was, wasn't it, Jason.

2057
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: To some degree, Yeah, I mean it's just they're they

2058
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: are on a different, no pun intended playing field than

2059
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the sports, and the and the rest

2060
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: of the sports should have the opportunity. What's going to happen,

2061
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: at least the way I see it is a lot

2062
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: of universities are not going to want to pay for

2063
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,680
Speaker 1: the travel for the sports that aren't making money. And

2064
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Remember you know, when Title nine came around,

2065
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: you would lose the tennis team if there wasn't a

2066
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: women's team or something like that. You're going to see

2067
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 1: some of these sports that don't make money, that aren't

2068
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: revenue generating athletics, You're just gonna see them disappear from

2069
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: a lot of these universities because they're going to look

2070
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: at it from a profit and loss standpoint. Eventually, it's

2071
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: going to become balanced more than that's really sad.

2072
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 2: It is sad. They tried to do that to Stanford volleyball.

2073
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 3: Men.

2074
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, men's Stanford volleyball. They mean they said people to

2075
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 2: the Olympics. You talk about a high program. Very sad

2076
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 2: to see, says Lee. Vanderbilt alone, there's a founder or

2077
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 2: a founding member of the SEC. You're you'd have trying

2078
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: to kick out teams out of conference. It would end

2079
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 2: up in the courts for years. Take all the high

2080
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 2: academic schools and call it the elite AID. So you know,

2081
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 2: how about the Syracuse Would you consider that?

2082
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: I thought about that. I actually thought about them. I

2083
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: thought about them, and I thought about Missouri.

2084
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if Missouri's quite well.

2085
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I just thought about him in terms of I guess

2086
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,839
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about him in terms of journalism

2087
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: school right like high and broadcast the school. We talked

2088
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 1: about Northwestern and Syracuse, but they're on higher level and sports.

2089
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 2: Q says Jason. All the activity you see surrounding college

2090
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 2: football realignment is a we are setting up the groundwork

2091
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 2: to create our own college football entity. Oh, I agree,

2092
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 2: and we'll no longer be affiliated with the NCAA activity.

2093
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 2: That's where we'll be in about five years from now.

2094
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: Well they need to get there fast because there's gonna

2095
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of casualties before we get there. Yes,

2096
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 1: it's my it's my argument. I don't disagree with that

2097
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 1: opinion at all. I just think you'd better get there

2098
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: or you're gonna lose a lot of sports off these campuses.

2099
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 1: And look, some people are just gonna roll their eyes

2100
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, well they're not making money, so you know,

2101
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But there's a lot of people that

2102
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: put a lot of time into those sports, and it's

2103
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: I guess there's there. It's just it feels heartless to

2104
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 1: just cut them all, or to feel like you have

2105
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: to cut them all because of money and that. But look,

2106
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: money makes the world go around, and money has been

2107
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: the driving force in college sports for a long long time.

2108
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 1: Don't let anybody tell you different.

2109
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: I could hear people saying, well, why was there money

2110
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 2: before to support these programs. I'm going to tell you

2111
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 2: the difference, because now some of this money has to

2112
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 2: be pretend like they're nil money, right, and now you're

2113
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: paying for kids to go to your school, and that's

2114
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: where some of the money is going.

2115
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,799
Speaker 1: Through now, yeah, I mean that's it. You sound cynical

2116
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: when you say that, but you also sound right.

2117
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing exactly.

2118
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2119
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it sounds like it almost sounds like

2120
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, except no, not quite. No, that's actually

2121
01:39:54,920 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 1: pretty accurate to the circumstances surrounding everything. All right, So yeah,

2122
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: good comments, keep them coming. If you want to join us,

2123
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: you can eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. All right,

2124
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: storylines we think are gonna be tired of in the

2125
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: NFL before November or pretty early on in the season, right,

2126
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: And I mentioned the Jets at the end the last

2127
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: hour and thought, there's probably gonna be a lot of

2128
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: people that say that, let me throw mine at you

2129
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: real quick, kay, I don't think it'll be the same

2130
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 1: as yours. Okay, The Cowboys and Dak Prescott, Okay, because

2131
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: I think this is annual always Dak gonna be Is

2132
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 1: that good enough? I honestly, we know what Dak Prescott

2133
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: is right now. We know what he's not. He's pretty good,

2134
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: but he's not elite. He's never gonna be elite. The

2135
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys are always going to get more press than they're

2136
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: worth most of the time. And as long as Mike

2137
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: McCarthy's your head coach. Quite frankly, uh, you deserve what

2138
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you get as far you're gonna get with that.

2139
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're gonna be with him the rest of

2140
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 2: the way. I can see where that's one. I gotta

2141
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 2: tell you, though, I capable the list of three. Oh good,

2142
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 2: but but I really am not sick of any of them,

2143
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I just came up with

2144
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 2: probably the top three that people are gonna say, but

2145
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 2: I do like yours. I think Cowboy fans want to

2146
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: see what Dak's gonna put up short, because now he's

2147
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to do it without a running game of

2148
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott and Zeke took away some of the stuff

2149
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 2: that Dac could do. I think they went out of

2150
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: their way to give Zeke the ball a little bit

2151
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 2: more than they should have, and then of course they

2152
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: got powered involved. I like him too, but he's coming

2153
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: off a major injury, so I'm not so sure that

2154
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Zeke won't be back with the Cowboys when it's all

2155
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 2: said and done. Look, I know everybody's sick and tired

2156
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 2: of it, will be sick and tired of the Jets

2157
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 2: and Rogers. I won't eat everything up. I'm not a

2158
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 2: Jets fan. I will be all in on all the

2159
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 2: Jets games. I'm gonna be all in on every pass

2160
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers throws. I want to see the press conference.

2161
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 2: I want to see if he's snarky. I want to

2162
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: see if he throws people under the bus. I want

2163
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 2: to know how it's gonna take for Jet fans to

2164
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 2: start turning on Aaron Rodgers. How long is it gonna

2165
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 2: take for they start saying Sala's got to go. He's

2166
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 2: He's not the coach, it's his fault. I'm all intrigued

2167
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 2: in everything all with the jetson Rodgers. When when it

2168
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 2: comes to that there, Jason.

2169
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's a good one. Torres mentioned last

2170
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: week something he's already out on, which is the is

2171
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh go to still be the coach next year? Yeah?

2172
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that watching the game too.

2173
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2174
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that also.

2175
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one came to mind literally for the same

2176
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: reason when I saw him on the sidelines. I'm like, oh, yeah,

2177
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: Torres mentioned this last week. We weren't doing the same

2178
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of topic. But that's gonna be a storyline again,

2179
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: because there's always just enough of bread crumb thrown out

2180
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: there that maybe he's gonna step away, and maybe it's

2181
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 1: his own people that are doing that for leverage purposes,

2182
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: or maybe he doesn't want to be part of a

2183
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 1: rebuild and they might be still very much in the

2184
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: in that process right now. I don't know, but I

2185
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: do think that if that becomes a story that's carrying

2186
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: us through the back half of the year, that's gonna

2187
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: get tiresome.

2188
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 2: I think one's gonna be my me into it. But

2189
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,719
Speaker 2: I think that will go away real quickly. If Tua

2190
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 2: doesn't have any injuries and he's having a good year

2191
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 2: through the first what two, three, four games, I think

2192
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 2: people are gonna forget about that and say, Okay, he's

2193
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 2: ready to go. Aslong as he stays healthy, will be fine.

2194
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see the numbers he's going to

2195
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 2: put up and stay healthy for a year. He was

2196
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 2: off to such a good start last year, and you

2197
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 2: see the weapons all around them. A lot of people

2198
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 2: are picking Miami is one of the sleepers out there.

2199
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they're a sleeper. People are

2200
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 2: jumping out of that Douphin bandwagon. I'm not sick of

2201
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: that narrative. I just hope Toua is not going to

2202
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: get hurt this time around.

2203
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: What's number three on your list?

2204
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 2: The running back situation. This is what I'm actually tired of.

2205
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: The whole You know, the running back is meaningless and

2206
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 2: they deserve less money, and where all these guys are

2207
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 2: gonna sign. Look, you still need a running game. You

2208
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 2: still need to ice away a game when you're up

2209
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 2: by a touchdown and there's what five, six, seven minutes

2210
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 2: left of the game, and you want that clock running,

2211
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, Jason, and you want

2212
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 2: to hand the ball off. It's just that it's getting

2213
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: old now with the whole devalue situation and the running

2214
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 2: backs sitting together on the zoom thing. There's so many

2215
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 2: of them without a job. And that doesn't even forget

2216
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:16,679
Speaker 2: about the tailors and the Zekes and the Dalvin Cooks

2217
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: and all that. What about even Joe Mixon, who had

2218
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 2: to take like a fifty percent pay cut otherwise he'd

2219
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 2: be in the same situation. It's it's gonna be tough

2220
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 2: for all these guys to Josh Jacobs. What's gonna happen

2221
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: to that guy for crying out loud. I are they

2222
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 2: going to rescind the franchise tag and just let him

2223
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 2: become a free agent. I a lot of these running

2224
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: backs are in a tough situation right now.

2225
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually a topic I wanted to jump into

2226
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: a little bit in the fourth hour, so we will.

2227
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the running the running back position. Yeah,

2228
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 1: what we can expect from some of these names on

2229
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: the field this year. After we talked to Nick koche though,

2230
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Eric b Enemy Yeah, yeah,

2231
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: and the Commanders. But first Nick take it.

2232
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 7: Away, all right, thank you guys. Let's stick in the

2233
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,560
Speaker 7: NFL here. The Ravens. They've extended to their record preseason

2234
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 7: winning streak now to twenty four games that goes back

2235
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 7: to the start of the twenty sixteen season. Had a

2236
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 7: twenty to nineteen win over the Eagles. Number one pick

2237
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 7: quarterback Bryce Young made his Panthers debut today. He played

2238
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 7: three series, unable to pick up a first down, just

2239
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 7: four of six for twenty one yards. Trevor Lawrence threw

2240
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 7: a pick on his first throw, but he then let

2241
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 7: a touchdown drive afterward against Cowboys.

2242
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: Jacksonville won that game.

2243
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 7: Bears starting offense WI look good against the Titans justin fields,

2244
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 7: albeit not real downfield throws, but three of three for

2245
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 7: a buck twenty nine and two touchdowns, one of those

2246
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 7: to new wide out DJ Moore, who turned a screen

2247
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 7: pass into a sixty two yard touchdown. Then you had

2248
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 7: DeMar Hamlin making three tackles while playing for the first

2249
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 7: time since suffering cardiac arrest on the field about seven

2250
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 7: months ago. In that same game, Colt Tricky quarterback Anthony

2251
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 7: Richardson struggled to move the Indy offense consistently. He finished

2252
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 7: seven of twelve sixty seven yards and an interception. Seahawks

2253
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 7: running back Kenneth Walker the third return to practice today.

2254
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 7: He had been out since the early portion of training

2255
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 7: camp with the groin injury. In the NBA, ESPN reports

2256
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 7: that the seventy six ers have ended trade talks around

2257
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 7: James Harden and they intend to have him at training

2258
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 7: camp to start next season. Tonight we had Basketball Hall

2259
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 7: of Fame inductions the likes of Greg Popovich, Dirk Novitzky,

2260
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 7: Tony Parker, Dwayne Wade. Here's Wade when he was asked

2261
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 7: about pat Riley, saying he's the greatest heat player of

2262
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 7: all time.

2263
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 8: Well, he's right, you know, I played there for almost

2264
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 8: fifteen years. I've put him on for that city, and

2265
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 8: I gave everything to the community. I gave everything to

2266
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 8: that game. I sacrificed everything that I could to make

2267
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 8: sure that we reached the levels that we wanted to reach.

2268
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 2: It's no slight to anybody I am in baseball. All

2269
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: games have just gone final.

2270
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 7: The Orioles on the road get a one to nothing

2271
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 7: win over the Mariners that snaps an eight game winning

2272
01:46:55,840 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 7: streak for Seattle. That one was in ten innings and

2273
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 7: other finals. Dodgers won their seventh in a row four

2274
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,440
Speaker 7: to one over the Ronkies. Diamondbacks shout out the Padres

2275
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 7: three to nothing. Rangers in control against the Giants nine

2276
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 7: to three. Astros crushed the Angels eleven to three, So

2277
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 7: no movement there in the Al West, still a two

2278
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,720
Speaker 7: and a half game lead for Texas. Brave swept a

2279
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 7: doubleheader against the Mets twenty one to three and six

2280
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 7: to nothing, and then what was it, Jason seven to

2281
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,799
Speaker 7: nothing Friday night. So they're just having a very weekend.

2282
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 7: In Queens. Two more homers for Matt Olsen in Game

2283
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 7: one of the doubleheader today, he leads the big leagues

2284
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 7: with forty two of them. Now this year, Cubs edge

2285
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 7: in the Blue Jays five to four, Brewers over the

2286
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 7: White Sox three to two, so Milwaukee's still two and

2287
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 7: a half game up in the NL Central On Chicago,

2288
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 7: Marlins got a complete game from Sandy Alkintara tout the

2289
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 7: Yankees three to one. Angels have lost nine to eleven

2290
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:55,919
Speaker 7: since the deadline. Rays walked off the Guardians six to five, Twins,

2291
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 7: cruising past the Phillies eight to one, and finally the Tigers.

2292
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 7: They handled the Red Soide sixty two. Guys back to you.

2293
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Nick, We are in the tire rack dot

2294
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Com studios. Never get tired here in those brave scores.

2295
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 2: Oh, I bet.

2296
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: Fan.

2297
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 2: Last year you were a Mets brad.

2298
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: No, I was a brave fan.

2299
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just double checking you're a Mets guy.

2300
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:17,719
Speaker 1: Right.

2301
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,480
Speaker 2: Of course. I named my kids Shave for Shae Stadium.

2302
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh.

2303
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 2: If it was a girl, I would have named their

2304
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Madison for Madison Square Garden.

2305
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: It's I don't know what to say to you or

2306
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: any other thing like, I certainly don't like the Mets

2307
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: as a braves fan. But I can say, man, it

2308
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:34,759
Speaker 1: could not have possibly gone worse.

2309
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 2: No, it couldn't. Ask for you guys, have you ever

2310
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 2: seen the comic strip Tank Macnamara.

2311
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 1: I have seen it before.

2312
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, because my they did an article. They did

2313
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 2: a comic strip on me naming my kids shave for

2314
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 2: Shase Stadium.

2315
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't know that.

2316
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh. I got the artwork. I got inside. It was

2317
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 2: pretty feud. It was pretty cool, very good, very.

2318
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 1: Good, beautiful. So Eric Beenemy is tough. Yeah, Ericnemy is

2319
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: uh pushing. Yes, the Washington commanders, yes, past their limits.

2320
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 1: You bet Ron Rivera out here publicly saying yeah, some

2321
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: of these guys don't really like this. Oh you got

2322
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: back to walk it back. Yeah, they tries to walk

2323
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 1: it back. It's like, Ron, what are you doing? Man?

2324
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I got you know what I think. First

2325
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 2: of all, I guess now we know why Eric b

2326
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 2: Enemy has never been a head coach. Right, Maybe he

2327
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: doesn't interview well, or maybe he's a little bit too harsh.

2328
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 2: You gotta go along with the times. I'm the guy

2329
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 2: that loves to yell at the clouds and put my

2330
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,479
Speaker 2: fist up there and all that stuff there. But the

2331
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 2: days of Bobby Knight are over. Okay, the days of

2332
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 2: Mike Krzyzewski are over, where you yelled and cursed like

2333
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 2: a drunken sailor and all that stuff. You've got to

2334
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 2: go ahead and conform to the people around you. And

2335
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 2: kids nowadays they've got a lot more power. So you

2336
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: can't have that type of attitude even if you are

2337
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Uh, you just can't be pushed them.

2338
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: The days of too a days and all that stuff

2339
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 2: are long gone. You gotta be more player friendly. And

2340
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 2: that's where he likes that right now.

2341
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know what all he's done.

2342
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, we don't on the pop night

2343
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 2: scale and all that kind of stuff.

2344
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: Right.

2345
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 2: I just had to throw that out there.

2346
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: I do know this, Yes, Eric b Enemy has the

2347
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: resume with what he's done in Kansas City. Yes that

2348
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: no one that he is coaching right now can match, right,

2349
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 1: none of them.

2350
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 2: Well, maybe that's why he's never been a head coach,

2351
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: because he has that attitude.

2352
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: Again, I don't know what the attitude is or isn't.

2353
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 1: What I do know is that the culture in Washington

2354
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: right outside. Look, I like Ron Rivera a lot and

2355
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: This is not a revera statement, but it is. You know,

2356
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder and everything has happened surrounding the Washington franchise

2357
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: such a long period of time. They have been nothing

2358
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: Burgers for the most part. Like that. You know, they

2359
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: sniffed the playoffs couple yet, that's right, but Taylor honekey,

2360
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 1: that's right, but they're not used to winning. If Eric bnemy'

2361
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: is gonna come in there, chances are he's not going

2362
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: to be particularly happy with what he sees, right because

2363
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 1: he's going from Andy Reid's offense and Patrick Mahomes and

2364
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 1: all this to basically a rookie quarterback, not a whole

2365
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 1: lot on offense, and guys that have gotten used to

2366
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 1: whatever they were used to. It's probably a culture shock,

2367
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think that he's the one that needs

2368
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: to conform to them because he actually understands how to win.

2369
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: And my guess is what he was doing prior is

2370
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do there. And I would want

2371
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: the guy. If I'm a Washington fan, I want them

2372
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: to follow the enemy. I don't want the enemy to

2373
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: follow them.

2374
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 2: Maybe he has how many more years does Andy Reid

2375
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 2: have left this coaching.

2376
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I have no idea.

2377
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 2: So how they didn't make the enemy coach in waiting

2378
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 2: for them? I mean, how many more years does he

2379
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: really have left? You don't think that the enemy deserved

2380
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 2: that title. They're like that, go ahead, go somewhere else.

2381
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 2: We won't make your coach in waiting.

2382
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Why not? There's somethingause he can easily come back, and

2383
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: maybe so, but he could just.

2384
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 2: Come back, Could you're right about that?

2385
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: Maybe? Andy Reid Olden point blank, Hey, I'm gonna be

2386
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:05,080
Speaker 1: here for five more years unless there's a major health situation. Right,

2387
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: do you want to sit here for five years or

2388
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: do you want to go to a few years in

2389
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,919
Speaker 1: the company. I don't know, Like who's got better job security,

2390
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: Ron Vera or Andy Reid?

2391
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Andy Reid?

2392
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: Right, So maybe you go to Washington, But if Kansas

2393
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 1: City comes open and they want you, then you can

2394
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 1: leave and go back. I don't know. But we've always

2395
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: known there's more to the air P enemy story. There

2396
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:29,120
Speaker 1: always has been. People don't want you can't be hard

2397
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:30,799
Speaker 1: as Jason issues.

2398
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 2: You can't be a hard ass anymore, Yes.

2399
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: You can't. Mike Rable's a hard ass, Jason.

2400
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 2: If you've been married five times, you gotta look at

2401
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 2: yourself in the mirror. You don't look at the other

2402
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 2: five girls. If you've been passed by by jobs, you

2403
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: gotta look at yourself in the mirror, maybe saying maybe

2404
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 2: I gotta change my attitude and then everybody else needs

2405
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:51,320
Speaker 2: to conform around me.

2406
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's that elaborate. I

2407
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: don't I want to talk more about this. We'll talk well,

2408
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: you know what, We'll keep this topic going on the

2409
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: other side of this. Break your thoughts on B enemy.

2410
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 1: Do you think he needs to conform? You can tweet us,

2411
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: you can hit that stinking genius one. You can hit

2412
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 1: me at JMRT radio. Let us know what you think

2413
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 1: on this B Enemy issue. I just feel like that

2414
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: guy's got a resume as an offensive coordinator, that these

2415
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: guys probably just need to quiet down and fall in

2416
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 1: line a little bit. Doesn't mean he has to be

2417
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 1: hard on him forever, but you probably have to come

2418
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: in there and knock some heads around for a little

2419
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: while because they're used to a thing that has not

2420
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 1: worked consistently for a very, very long time, and the

2421
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 1: enemy has been a part of the model franchise of

2422
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:38,839
Speaker 1: the last decade.

2423
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: Oh really, I thought it was Mahomes. That's my bad.

2424
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 2: That's my bad.

2425
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 5: There.

2426
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: Well I'm not saying that, but I said he's been

2427
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: a part of it, not the front. All right, now

2428
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: you're just pushing. Now, you just push him by the spinner.

2429
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: I've still got another hour with you. Let's save it

2430
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 1: for the fourth hour. All right, we'll come back. It is.

2431
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: It is Jason Martin Ardi spending here on Fox Sports Radio.

2432
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 1: Welcome back live from tyrack dot com Studios, Fox Sports Saturday.

2433
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: Here on Fox Sports Radio, Arnie Spaniards with me. I'm

2434
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Jason martin Air Torres. Will be back with me next week.

2435
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: He's taking this final final summer restpite with his family,

2436
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: hopefully enjoying himself. And then obviously the football is ramping up,

2437
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: and I think we're done now for the night. As

2438
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying, a bunch of highlights from other games.

2439
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wrapped it all up, they're all they're all

2440
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: done now. Two games tomorrow and then week one of

2441
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: the preseason is wrapped up.

2442
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,920
Speaker 1: And how many have you bet on, Arnie.

2443
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 2: I've bet on I'm going to look at here. I

2444
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 2: am five four I'm five and four.

2445
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 1: Well that's a little above five hundred.

2446
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the preseasons, the free season, I should

2447
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: be doing a lot better. You get you get good

2448
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 2: you know, you get good information, and you get a

2449
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 2: little bit of an advantage in this. You know, it's

2450
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 2: like college, it's like spring base. You are a lot

2451
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 2: more subdued than what you were last week. Oh wow,

2452
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: I was off to a three and oh start last week.

2453
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 4: Now, No, No, that was creative math that you were trying

2454
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 4: to clean three and oh on No, I.

2455
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: Was three and oh. I just put one on the

2456
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 2: over under. Yeah, that's that. That's three and one. Then

2457
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't count that one.

2458
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't count the ones I don't like.

2459
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 2: No, I just didn't count the overunders. I was just

2460
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 2: doing sides. But yeah, five and four. I'll see. I

2461
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: got two more to go for this week that i'll

2462
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 2: give out later on.

2463
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 1: No, that's good. By the way, We're brought to you

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Speaker 1: Progressive dot Com, All right, Eric b enemy again. So

2469
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 1: do you think this is a bad sign?

2470
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a bad look, bad optics bad.

2471
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 2: What do you mean by bad sign, like they're gonna

2472
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 2: have a bad year because of this.

2473
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 1: No, it's just a bad sign for how this is

2474
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:07,040
Speaker 1: gonna go with the enemy in Washington.

2475
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 2: I do think that some of the players are gonna

2476
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 2: revolt when they go to the head coach. Revolt, yeah,

2477
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: because when they go to the head coach, you know

2478
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 2: there's a major problem. I mean, some people could just

2479
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 2: go these guys are football players. Most of these guys

2480
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 2: can just shrug it off. But when you have what three, four, five,

2481
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: how many of them went to the head coach, there's

2482
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 2: got to be a problem. Man, something's got to be wrong. Now,

2483
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: we didn't hear exactly what happened and what kind of

2484
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 2: culture it is. I'm not saying anything illegal. He's probably

2485
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: pushing them a little bit too much, but you don't

2486
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 2: want to get these guys banged up before the start

2487
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 2: of the season and then you know, start wearing that

2488
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 2: at the end of the season.

2489
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get that. I mean you do

2490
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 1: want to ramp up, and you don't want to put

2491
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: people in a bad situation. But again, when you're a

2492
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: culture of mediocrity and you bring in someone that's won

2493
01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: multiple championships and has a lot of respect just from

2494
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 1: what he's been able to accomplish in Kansas City, regardless

2495
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: of whether you think he's been passed over for head

2496
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 1: coaching jobs or there's deservedly stuff in his past that

2497
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: have played against him throughout this. Just throwing that out

2498
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 1: and just looking at what he's done as the offensive

2499
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: coordinator in.

2500
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 2: Kansas, Well, what happens if he was thrown out, if

2501
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 2: he was the head coach and he goes, I'm gonna

2502
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 2: do today's again. I know you can't because you think

2503
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 2: he would do that. No, Well suppose he did, though,

2504
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: Suppose he said, I'm so hard ass, I'm doing to

2505
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 2: day's maybe once or twice a week.

2506
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: No, he again, that's tough to do because you can't

2507
01:57:34,040 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: do him.

2508
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,440
Speaker 2: Now, I know that you can't do it. But again,

2509
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 2: he's got to conform. He's got to change.

2510
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 1: So what does he have to change and do? Like

2511
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: you're saying, he's got to conform, So how does he conform?

2512
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: He can't be such a hard ass. I mean, when

2513
01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 2: you have, like, like I said, a bunch of people

2514
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,400
Speaker 2: complaining about you do the head coach, you've done something wrong,

2515
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 2: You're pushing him too much. I think it was Covino

2516
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 2: and Rich actually talking about this today when they said

2517
01:57:56,080 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 2: that Andy Reid is almost like apologetic to Patrick Mahomes

2518
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 2: saying is it okay that I could ask you this?

2519
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Is it okay that I can say this to you?

2520
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, Andy Reid's got some skids on the wall,

2521
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 2: and he's he's conformed over the years. So maybe the

2522
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 2: enemy has to do the same.

2523
01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 1: Perhaps, But you might do that with Patrick Mahomes, but

2524
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna do that with Sam Howell.

2525
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: No, you're not. You know, Yes, you're right about that.

2526
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Yes. I think that's the difference. Is Jimmy Johnson said

2527
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Patrick Maholmes.

2528
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 2: I think Jimmy Johnson once said, you know what happens

2529
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 2: if Troy Aikman or Edmond Smith does something wrong and

2530
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 2: a guy who's last he goes. I don't treat them

2531
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: all the same, you know what I mean? If Evan

2532
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 2: does something wrong, then you know, so be it. But

2533
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 2: the other guys get punished.

2534
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: So there yeah, exactly. Like even if like, all right,

2535
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 1: so there's misdemeanor crime or something committed or like a

2536
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 1: speeding violation or something that's gonna get you knocked out.

2537
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: If you're end of the bench guy, that might be

2538
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 1: into your career. But if you're QB one, yes, you

2539
01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: probably get away with that.

2540
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I agree with you, There no doubt about that.

2541
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 1: So maybe that's part of it is the enemy is

2542
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: so used to being around such higher level talent, right

2543
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 1: that maybe he's going to have to not conform. But

2544
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: he's still trying to acclimate, like a like a top

2545
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: draft pick being drafted to a terrible team that's won

2546
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of games and now is on a bad squad.

2547
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 2: Too.

2548
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's trying to flex his muscle. But I

2549
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: also just think he sees a lot of flaws. He's like, man,

2550
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: we got to fix this. I'm not used to this,

2551
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: And that might actually be forcing him to be a

2552
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: little bit more edgy than otherwise maybe he would be.

2553
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a thing that that was

2554
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 1: true in Kansas City.

2555
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 2: I'll give you that. He's probably saying these guys are

2556
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 2: nowhere near what Kansas City's level at So these guys

2557
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 2: got to change something.

2558
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it might beature, right, I'm not saying

2559
01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: for sure they stink, but as possible when we come back,

2560
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 1: will reset what happened in the preseason and what NFL

2561
01:59:55,280 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 1: player coaches under the most pressure entering this season. Plus party,

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Speaker 1: I know all that. In the fourth hour, indeed, we

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Speaker 2: And you have a lot of tweets, so like four

2567
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 2: or five, we need to catch up on on on

2568
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 2: past topics. People are just getting there.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll do that before we jump into the

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Speaker 1: next home. We also got Bernie Fratto joined us in

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Speaker 1: to date, what's going on this moment? Back?

2578
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Speaker 2: I think it was our two when we're talking about

2579
02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 2: conference realignment. He said the dirty little secret about college

2580
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:59,879
Speaker 2: football's that UCLA USC were running huge deficits of multiple

2581
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 2: tens of millions during COVID and needed to go to

2582
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. We didn't bring that up, but he's

2583
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right on that they were losing money

2584
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 2: and then of course what was an under armor wanted

2585
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 2: to pull out their thing, and I believe they did.

2586
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 2: Though wouldn't they want to go back to U today

2587
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 2: now now that's joining the Big ten. But but he's

2588
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 2: right about that one.

2589
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Speaker 1: Jason, No, Yes, I remember at the time that was

2590
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: a pretty big talking part. I remember I had Jeff

2591
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Schwartz on my on my Nashville show at the time,

2592
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 1: and he came on and made that very point right

2593
02:01:30,240 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: after it happened, and then you started to see it

2594
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,680
Speaker 1: pop up. I think Stuart Mandel may have written about

2595
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: it for The Athletic at the time. It is a

2596
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:41,080
Speaker 1: big deal. Especially UCLA was in the tank, like they

2597
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 1: were in the toilet financially, like they had a massive,

2598
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 1: a massive deficit that they had had to find a

2599
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: way out of, and the Big Ten kind of gave

2600
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 1: them a life raft, and really it was all about USC.

2601
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Ucla was lucky that the Big ten so badly wanted USC,

2602
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 1: because I mean, what is UCLA football really generally speaking?

2603
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: I know right now it's Chip Kelly, It's better, but

2604
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: USC is the brand.

2605
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 2: We all know this in football, right, There's no doubt

2606
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 2: about that. Sports Q says, I live here in DC, guys,

2607
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 2: and Jason is spot on, commander. Fans love the enemy.

2608
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 2: They love a straight, no chaser, old school approach. They

2609
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 2: hated hearing a few players complain about the hard practices

2610
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 2: and hated Rivera even more for snitching about it.

2611
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that was odd.

2612
02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah he did back them up. And then he goes

2613
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: one more thing, Eric Vietemy, he's working and dealing with

2614
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:36,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of millennials. I've worked with a bunch and

2615
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 2: had them work for me at a restaurant industry. They

2616
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 2: are a bunch of sensitive sissies. He's hurting their sensitivity.

2617
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 4: You're happening to run your show. You want to make

2618
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 4: sure you talk about your.

2619
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 2: Next words we're getting We're getting a lot of uh

2620
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:52,880
Speaker 2: millennial knocking right now there, Jason. To be honest with you, well,

2621
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:55,160
Speaker 2: like I.

2622
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: Said, I mean I just saved what Chris Profett said.

2623
02:02:57,800 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to I'll give you one wait

2624
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: that at all.

2625
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 2: I give you what more than Jimmy Johnson story I

2626
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:06,080
Speaker 2: told you went like this said it was a special

2627
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 2: teams guy that fell asleep during film study. Johnson cut

2628
02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 2: the guy that day. A reporter asked Johnson, what would

2629
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,839
Speaker 2: you do if Emmitt Smith had fallen asleep without hesitation?

2630
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 2: Johnson said, get him a pillow. Yeah, yeah, that was

2631
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 2: that was this story.

2632
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:22,680
Speaker 4: But hold on, I've heard, I've heard like falling asleep

2633
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 4: is a time on or tradition in the NFL. Yeah,

2634
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 4: it's like Barry Sanders used to fall asleep during film

2635
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:29,080
Speaker 4: all the time.

2636
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Speaker 2: He admitted as much too, because he.

2637
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 1: Was smarter than everybody that was running the film study.

2638
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had to interview him and he literally said

2639
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 4: that to me. It's like I had heard he fell

2640
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 4: asleep on the sidelines. He's like, no, I couldn't. But

2641
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 4: all those other times people said I fall asleep. I

2642
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 4: fell asleep.

2643
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: See we'll think about that. I mean, when you're Barry Sanders, right,

2644
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean this goes back. I'm not going to I don't.

2645
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: We don't need the audio for this because everybody can

2646
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:52,720
Speaker 1: just bring it up in their head as soon as

2647
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned this. This is Alan Iverson in practice.

2648
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the.

2649
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:01,280
Speaker 1: Same exact thing. Like you're Barry Sanders, Like you can

2650
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: run film with the running back coach on your own

2651
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, but yeah, you're probably gonna fall asleep. It's

2652
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 1: the It's the same thing as like Patrick Mahomes is

2653
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna play a quarter and he said he really likes

2654
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 1: the reps because he likes to get hit a few

2655
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: times in preseason, right, just so he can feel like,

2656
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, the progress we're making when I can't

2657
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 1: be hit is actually getting us somewhere. But at the

2658
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 1: same token, the quarterbacks that don't play a down in

2659
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: the preseason or whatever, it's it's kind of the same deal.

2660
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: It's like, does Aaron Rodgers need to play when he's

2661
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Probably not in the preseason because he's

2662
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna be fine when the season starts. That's like he's

2663
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna sign his contract two weeks before camp is over,

2664
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna be fine come week one or whatever.

2665
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 1: That becomes the argument. So I think that's that's kind

2666
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: of the same story. Here's just it's it's again, it's

2667
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 1: Allen Iverson in practice. Like Barry Sanders gonna be fine

2668
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: when the game comes around. It's kind of hard to

2669
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 1: tell Barry Sanders what Barry Sanders needs to do.

2670
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 2: You get him a pillow, that's what you do? Yeah,

2671
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,040
Speaker 2: exactly or exactly.

2672
02:04:57,600 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right, what else you got?

2673
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 2: That's it? That was we got caught up because those

2674
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:04,320
Speaker 2: people getting in from the last couple of hours.

2675
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:07,400
Speaker 1: All right, So we led off the show three hours

2676
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:12,440
Speaker 1: ago with early hot takes from Marnie Spanier and wild

2677
02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: overreactions about preseason that he was very, very sure about

2678
02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: anything change. Well, there was a couple of games, of course,

2679
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: of the evening.

2680
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 2: Well, there was a couple of games that were just

2681
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 2: starting or just beginning as we got on. The Rams

2682
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,000
Speaker 2: are gonna be miserable this year. You know that, don't you.

2683
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be very good now.

2684
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna be horrible. And you could tell that even

2685
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 2: by we'll get at the preseason game. There's a lot

2686
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 2: of things they don't do well. It's just going to

2687
02:05:36,520 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 2: be a long season for them. And I don't know

2688
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 2: what happens after that. I don't know what they do

2689
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 2: about the coaching situation, and you brought that up as

2690
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 2: one of the topics you're gonna be sick of the

2691
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 2: iring about. But that's that's gonna be going around all

2692
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 2: year because it's gonna be a tough year for them, Jason,

2693
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, yeah.

2694
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, I definitely think it's gonna be

2695
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a rough year for man.

2696
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:01,680
Speaker 2: You know what, what team I'm forgetting.

2697
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:02,720
Speaker 1: Well, what I was talking about is whether or not

2698
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, like it becomes Sean McVay in his job

2699
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: and if he's gonna stick around or go do TV

2700
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:11,160
Speaker 1: for that's gonna become that's gonna get if that gets played.

2701
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 1: Torres mentioned it last week's let me give him credit

2702
02:06:13,280 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 1: for it, but right, he's right, Like, that's gonna get

2703
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 1: insufferable if that becomes a storyline long term.

2704
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a couple other things. You know, I was

2705
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 2: originally on the Panthers badwagon with Bryce and thinking that

2706
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:28,040
Speaker 2: maybe this was gonna be a magical year for them,

2707
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 2: not a not a division that's very tough. He's gonna

2708
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 2: have a lot of growing pains. There's gonna be a

2709
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 2: lot of It's not that he's just gonna come in

2710
02:06:35,040 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 2: and have the success like he had in Alabama. I

2711
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 2: thought maybe mac Jones was gonna be able to do

2712
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 2: that also, But now we're seeing when you've had that

2713
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 2: much talent around you, like even a CJ stout in

2714
02:06:44,960 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State, you just don't come in and dominate like

2715
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:51,400
Speaker 2: you did in college. It's completely two different games, you know.

2716
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because generally if you're that good in college,

2717
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:56,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to a team that's not very good.

2718
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: And so you go from having the best talent in

2719
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 1: the world in college, whether you're at Alabama and you've

2720
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 1: got a Heisman Trophy winner on one side and Jalen

2721
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 1: Waddle on the other and stuff like that, you go

2722
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 1: from that to whatever it is that the Patriots have

2723
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: run out there a wide receiver for the last couple

2724
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 1: of years, exactly which that becomes your scenario. Like most

2725
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: of the time, you don't. It doesn't fall into place

2726
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:21,920
Speaker 1: for you, unless maybe you get drafted a little lower

2727
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 1: than some people might have expected, or you get lucky

2728
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes did and goes exactly where he should

2729
02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 1: to the right system and the right coordinator and the

2730
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,840
Speaker 1: right head coach and everything rolls like that, but that's

2731
02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: not generally the method. Like CJ. Strout not having a

2732
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 1: good year, that's an easy one to say, you're probably

2733
02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 1: right about not based on what he did today, but

2734
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,120
Speaker 1: based on what Houston is and is not. It's gonna

2735
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:46,879
Speaker 1: take some time for Tamiko Ryants.

2736
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. I already changed my super Bowl

2737
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:53,480
Speaker 2: pick because what I saw in week one of the preseasons.

2738
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:57,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't kidding around. You know when we do that

2739
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 2: in the studio back in Fox Sports rate, you know

2740
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 2: where they ask you who you like in each division

2741
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 2: and yes, most underrated, overrated. I was going to put

2742
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 2: Miami in Dallas in the Super Bowl. I am definitely

2743
02:08:11,120 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 2: redoing Dallas and gonna come up with another team in

2744
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 2: the NFC. I'm not gonna put Dallas in the super Bowl.

2745
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 2: They just don't have it, you.

2746
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 1: Know, man, that's really first off, that's interesting. You had

2747
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 1: Dallas there.

2748
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:24,480
Speaker 2: To begin with, but you like Dak and all that.

2749
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 1: I think Dak is pretty good, not elite. We talked

2750
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: about that last hour. That's the storyline. I think I'm

2751
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 1: gonna get tired of because it's gonna be incessant every

2752
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 1: Monday whatever the Cowboys do, good or bad, it's going

2753
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:39,160
Speaker 1: to be overreaction about Dak one way or the other.

2754
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: I just think, man, the two teams that were in

2755
02:08:43,320 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship last year are the only two teams

2756
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: I feel really good about the conference. Yeah, Philadelphia should

2757
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 1: be in the super Bowl again. Yeah they should be.

2758
02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying maybe they won't be, but that's what

2759
02:08:55,960 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm picking. I see no reason to change that to you, Dallas.

2760
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 2: I had Dallas because I thought it was gonna be

2761
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 2: that Philadelphia was going to come back to earth a

2762
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 2: little bit, that the Giants didn't have the perfect story.

2763
02:09:08,280 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Yeah, that you.

2764
02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 2: Know, things were gonna be a little bit tougher on them.

2765
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:15,280
Speaker 2: But I you know Dallas now, and I thought they

2766
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 2: ran the ball a little bit too much. Dallas gave

2767
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 2: Zeke too many carries when he just didn't have it anymore.

2768
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 2: But I I did just missing that that spark, you

2769
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean, when like Zeke a couple of

2770
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 2: years ago, they just don't have that. I just don't believe,

2771
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, they can go. What was the backup bringing

2772
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:34,800
Speaker 2: back again that got hurt powered? Yeah, I just don't

2773
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 2: think he's enough.

2774
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 1: To to, you know, carry the better than Zeke.

2775
02:09:39,040 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 2: Well, but they need more than one running back in

2776
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 2: that so I know they got the Duvon that they drafted.

2777
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 2: We had a pretty decent game today, but I just

2778
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 2: don't think they have enough spark, you know.

2779
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree. I again, if Mike McCarthy's coaching

2780
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 1: the team, I don't have him in the super Bowl.

2781
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 1: And it's not because I think Mike McCarthy's a bad coach.

2782
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 1: I just don't think he is a great coach. I

2783
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:00,280
Speaker 1: think there are levels to coaching, and it it's not

2784
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 1: this guy's terrible and this guy's awesome. It's this guy's

2785
02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 1: terrible and this guy's all right. And that's kind of

2786
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: where I am with Mike McCarthy, is he's all right.

2787
02:10:07,920 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could do worse, but you can certainly

2788
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:15,280
Speaker 1: do better. And other franchises do Philadelphia coming down to Earth.

2789
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think they come far down to earth.

2790
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,680
Speaker 1: The Giants are coming down to Earth this year.

2791
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:24,839
Speaker 2: It was a perfect storm. Dan's such an easy schedule

2792
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,640
Speaker 2: last year. I think everything worked out in their favor.

2793
02:10:27,680 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't think they get as lucky as time around, either,

2794
02:10:29,680 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 2: you know.

2795
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. So what what we

2796
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:37,600
Speaker 1: talked about the Rams being bad even though looks stetsn't

2797
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 1: been at gonna be a decent backup for somebody.

2798
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 2: I like the Bears this year. Now, I haven't done.

2799
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 2: I've done on the bill I do I do?

2800
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 1: You know?

2801
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not because, yeah, it is because they beat

2802
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 2: the Titans, But I just like, I just.

2803
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,520
Speaker 1: Keep it going. Man, this is the breaking bad Mark

2804
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 1: Margolis ri, I P I know what this is. Mark

2805
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 1: Margolis Bell.

2806
02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you you think I'm over value doing the

2807
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 2: Bears especially? Wait? Is it because of fields or just

2808
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:05,040
Speaker 2: don't know?

2809
02:11:05,400 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

2810
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:07,520
Speaker 2: Because I like fields.

2811
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Daniel Bryan is saying it best. I like fields too.

2812
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't like much else.

2813
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 2: You know, don't you don't think maybe because last year

2814
02:11:17,240 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 2: they gave up so many sacks, they can't get any

2815
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 2: worse than that. Right, they don't have.

2816
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 4: No offensive line. They still don't have an offensive line.

2817
02:11:24,800 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 2: I just said they have to be better than they

2818
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:28,520
Speaker 2: were last year? Did they not?

2819
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 1: Or I will say this they had Look DJ Moore

2820
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 1: is better than what they've had.

2821
02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:35,200
Speaker 2: And that's very very good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

2822
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: Look, he was great in Carolina He's gonna be good

2823
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 1: for them, no question about that, right, question is what

2824
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 1: else you're gonna get? I mean they I like Vellas Junior,

2825
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: Jones Junior as a speed guy, ecuademic of Saint Brown's

2826
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: all right, and you know you've you've got some things there,

2827
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:57,800
Speaker 1: but it's still like, man, it's a lot of not

2828
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 1: number one guys. Is more going to be enough? And

2829
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:03,560
Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to run the ball outside

2830
02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 1: of fields? Because what Chris is saying is right if

2831
02:12:06,840 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 1: their offensive line is struggling fields, is the kind of

2832
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna get hurt?

2833
02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, you can just yeah.

2834
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:15,960
Speaker 4: He also don't have much of a run game anymore,

2835
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,680
Speaker 4: so they can fall back on anyone butt fields right now.

2836
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 2: At least they got the ball. But I mean, look

2837
02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:25,440
Speaker 2: what he just did today with you know, scrambling around

2838
02:12:25,560 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 2: getting the ball. There was a one stat today and

2839
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:30,480
Speaker 2: you'll have to look this up. I think he threw

2840
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:33,120
Speaker 2: the ball a total of six yards and he had

2841
02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three yards total.

2842
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 4: That's that's going to stack up over a season like

2843
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,440
Speaker 4: those those injuries, those hits are going.

2844
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,680
Speaker 2: To stack up. But those are big plays, you know

2845
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about when he's scrambling around and picks

2846
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 2: up the first or flips a ball down field. The

2847
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:49,840
Speaker 2: next thing you know, the wide receiver becks take it

2848
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 2: off for fifty yards. Those are just killers, man, and

2849
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:55,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna have a lot of those. That's why I

2850
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 2: like him. I'm a big fan of his, to be honest.

2851
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: Let's just say this also, I'm gonna make this point. Yeah,

2852
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 1: what you saw today the Titans defense that they saw,

2853
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 1: are they bad?

2854
02:13:06,240 --> 02:13:07,560
Speaker 2: No, they didn't.

2855
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 1: But you didn't see any of them right right? That

2856
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 1: Not that fields can't play, but the Titans defense that

2857
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,560
Speaker 1: he would have seen had this been a regular season game,

2858
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 1: far cry from about ninety five percent of what he

2859
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: saw today. He saw a couple guys that he would

2860
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:27,880
Speaker 1: have seen. And that's probably about it.

2861
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 2: And what did we haven't talked about that? I mean,

2862
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,200
Speaker 2: people thought they could be a super Bowl player the

2863
02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:37,200
Speaker 2: last couple of years, and we haven't even really brought

2864
02:13:37,200 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 2: them up as the Buffalo Bills. Are we forgetting about them?

2865
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,240
Speaker 2: Because the Jets of the new sexy team, because Miami

2866
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 2: is the new sexy team, because Kansas City.

2867
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:46,320
Speaker 1: Is still there.

2868
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 2: Well, if you were going to pick one team to

2869
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 2: fall from Grace. Some people might pick the Buffalo Bills.

2870
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 2: Torres has picked the Bills. Oh what the fall from Grace?

2871
02:13:56,200 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 1: And I am tempted to agree with him because of

2872
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 1: the what have we heard in the off season Stefan Diggs.

2873
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:05,760
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know why. I don't even know where

2874
02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:07,920
Speaker 2: that came from, to be honest, Yeah, it's a weird story.

2875
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm not out on the Bills, but this is the

2876
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 1: make or break a year. I said the question we

2877
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: were going to address, and we got Bernie coming up

2878
02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 1: on the other side, so maybe we'll have to do

2879
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 1: it in the final say, oh, are we gonna ask Bernie

2880
02:14:19,320 --> 02:14:21,200
Speaker 1: who has the most pressure on them this year? As

2881
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:24,480
Speaker 1: a coacher player? I mean, I certainly think that you

2882
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of different candidates here. You've got

2883
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 1: a Jordan Love, but you've got a Josh Allen. But

2884
02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:32,400
Speaker 1: you've definitely got a Sean McDermott.

2885
02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:34,760
Speaker 2: He doesn't have any more pressure than Aaron Rodgers has

2886
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 2: on him or two, I think, I would say.

2887
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:39,360
Speaker 1: But I would say the most pressure in the league

2888
02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 1: is on Brandon Staley. They paid Justin Herbert if he's

2889
02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 1: supposed to be all world and Staley has still cost

2890
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 1: them multiple games with decisions that he's made late, and

2891
02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:56,120
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore coming in means that his replacement is potentially

2892
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:59,560
Speaker 1: already into building, so we've got to see I think

2893
02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:01,960
Speaker 1: there's as of pressure there. We can address this in

2894
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 1: debate a little bit with Bernie. I'm sure he'll have

2895
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 1: some good answers. He's also got a Tony Dungee story.

2896
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 2: That I can't wait to hear.

2897
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:10,360
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Speaker 1: Bertie Frado. Next on Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back Fox

2902
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:32,920
Speaker 1: Sports Saturday. Here a fourth hour of our show, Arnie

2903
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Spanier with me. I'm Jason Martin. Ra Torres will be

2904
02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:39,040
Speaker 1: back with me next week, taking the week off with

2905
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:42,760
Speaker 1: his family before football ramps up. Even though football is

2906
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:46,600
Speaker 1: being played, We're at the tirag dot com studios and

2907
02:15:46,680 --> 02:15:49,400
Speaker 1: we welcome in the man who follows us, our good friend,

2908
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:52,240
Speaker 1: Bernie Frado. Bernie, good evening.

2909
02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:56,400
Speaker 3: Good evening, guys, Ernie I gotta ask you, does Justin

2910
02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 3: Fields make your one game Arnie preseason Hall of Fame?

2911
02:15:59,080 --> 02:16:00,040
Speaker 3: Because here's all I at.

2912
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 2: Three and three, three already out of me? I already

2913
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:02,920
Speaker 2: put him in.

2914
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:06,320
Speaker 3: There, sure, especially when you drop back. All three attempts

2915
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:09,160
Speaker 3: are behind the line of scrimmage for the negative net

2916
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 3: seven yards, and yet thanks to DJ Moore and Herbert,

2917
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:14,360
Speaker 3: they take it to the house one hundred and twenty

2918
02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,280
Speaker 3: nine yards, three for three, perfect quarterback rating one point fifty.

2919
02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 3: It would be nice to see a five step drop,

2920
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:22,240
Speaker 3: a seven step drop. Stay in the pocket, make your

2921
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 3: progressions and drill somebody downfield. We shall see.

2922
02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: You don't have to.

2923
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:27,040
Speaker 2: You don't have to.

2924
02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:30,000
Speaker 1: Are you seeing that offensive line doesn't matter?

2925
02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:32,879
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Jason, I keep hearing that you

2926
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,200
Speaker 3: could put Justin Fields on the forty nine ers. His

2927
02:16:35,320 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 3: default mechanism is still to run. He still has major

2928
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 3: trouble with progressions. He's not accurate. Even that pass you

2929
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:44,879
Speaker 3: through to DJ Moore was blowing away just a bit outside,

2930
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 3: goes out and gets it and takes it to the house. Now, look,

2931
02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:51,080
Speaker 3: I like Justin Fields. I think he's a stellar individual

2932
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:54,560
Speaker 3: everything about him. But he's got enough with the speeches.

2933
02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:56,520
Speaker 3: Don't tell me, show me. Let's see what he does

2934
02:16:56,560 --> 02:16:56,879
Speaker 3: this year.

2935
02:16:56,959 --> 02:16:59,040
Speaker 2: Do you bet any of the preseason Bernie? Are you all?

2936
02:16:59,360 --> 02:16:59,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

2937
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:00,840
Speaker 3: I bet the preseason?

2938
02:17:00,840 --> 02:17:02,879
Speaker 2: There, yeah, go the pros feast on.

2939
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 3: The preseason crack man about and I've been on the

2940
02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:07,720
Speaker 3: phone three days in a row. Look, guys, how many

2941
02:17:07,720 --> 02:17:09,640
Speaker 3: times do we have to say? It's the only sport

2942
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 3: where you have a contest where one coach cares if

2943
02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:15,240
Speaker 3: he wins and the other one doesn't. And you can

2944
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:19,200
Speaker 3: easily research and find out which coaches are which. Then

2945
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:23,640
Speaker 3: you've got quarterback rotations. You've got some quarterback rotations that

2946
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 3: are three or four deep, where you've got a guy

2947
02:17:26,040 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 3: who's playing in the fourth quarter, who's at twenty starts

2948
02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:31,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and even a playoffs start, and then

2949
02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:35,480
Speaker 3: it's all about information. The Super Bowl team that lost

2950
02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 3: the year before that plays their first preseason game now

2951
02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:43,200
Speaker 3: six and twenty five, straight up, Wow, the first So

2952
02:17:43,320 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 3: that happened with Philly again today and you know, backfire

2953
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 3: with me on the Jets last week, But I came

2954
02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:51,840
Speaker 3: right back on the Jets today. Robert sala is not

2955
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 3: six and one. He's one of the coaches that wants

2956
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:57,720
Speaker 3: to win in the preseason, I'm on the Raiders under

2957
02:17:57,720 --> 02:18:00,240
Speaker 3: tomorrow thirty six. We'll see what happen. So it's all

2958
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:04,880
Speaker 3: about information, following the trends, knowing which coaches want to win,

2959
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:08,000
Speaker 3: which ones don't, and understanding quarterback quotations.

2960
02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:10,800
Speaker 1: So that's really good information. Also, I know a coach

2961
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:13,720
Speaker 1: that wants to win and he's pushing his guys that

2962
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,160
Speaker 1: maybe aren't used to winning nearly as much as he is.

2963
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 1: That's Eric B.

2964
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:17,240
Speaker 2: Enemy.

2965
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:21,039
Speaker 1: We talked about this to end the third hour, and

2966
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:23,480
Speaker 1: even though I wanted to kind of save the Dungee story,

2967
02:18:23,480 --> 02:18:25,720
Speaker 1: I certainly wanted to talk about B Enemy because I

2968
02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:27,879
Speaker 1: know that it is relevant to that. I'm kind of

2969
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:30,760
Speaker 1: on the pro b Enemy side of this argument. But

2970
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: let us know where you are and how Dungee fits

2971
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:34,200
Speaker 1: into this.

2972
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:36,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tie the two together, thank you. So I

2973
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:41,680
Speaker 3: devoted my opening monologue last night entirely to Eric B. Enemy.

2974
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:44,400
Speaker 3: I've got his back. I mean he was brought in

2975
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:47,760
Speaker 3: to you know, he's brought in by Ron Rivere to

2976
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:51,120
Speaker 3: sparking offense that's ranked into bottom third and points and

2977
02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:54,240
Speaker 3: yards for seven straight years. So what they've been doing

2978
02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:58,400
Speaker 3: before hasn't been working. Football is a violent game, it's

2979
02:18:58,440 --> 02:19:01,280
Speaker 3: an emotional game. The enemy his style, but he's got

2980
02:19:01,320 --> 02:19:03,879
Speaker 3: receipts and he's trying to get the best out of

2981
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:07,160
Speaker 3: these guys. Now, the reason I invoked Dungee is because

2982
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:11,520
Speaker 3: I heard this narrative along the airwaves yesterday about oh

2983
02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:14,200
Speaker 3: oh you see now there was a why here get

2984
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:16,840
Speaker 3: a job? Because that was made No, it wasn't, No,

2985
02:19:16,879 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't Ny, it was not you. Spoiler

2986
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:21,960
Speaker 3: alert that name did not rhyme with Arnie. The bottom

2987
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:24,359
Speaker 3: line is this I'm gonna draw out parallel. That's interesting

2988
02:19:24,920 --> 02:19:26,760
Speaker 3: if you go back to the eighties and nineties, a

2989
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 3: good decade or more, Tony Dungee was the air at

2990
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:33,119
Speaker 3: the enemy of the eighties and nineties, always a bridesmaid,

2991
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 3: never a bride, interviewed a bunch of times, and of

2992
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:38,800
Speaker 3: course the narrative was why he wasn't getting hired. Well,

2993
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 3: Tony's a Michigan guy. I always wanted to meet him.

2994
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:43,439
Speaker 3: When I grow up, I want to be Tony Dungee.

2995
02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:46,000
Speaker 3: He's the most elegant man I've ever met. So in

2996
02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 3: two thousand and four January, I was in Kansas, City

2997
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:53,560
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs Colts playoff game, which the Colts won,

2998
02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:55,600
Speaker 3: by the way, and I got a chance to visit

2999
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:57,960
Speaker 3: with Tony Dungee for a few minutes and the subject

3000
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:00,760
Speaker 3: of getting hired came up. He told me a great story.

3001
02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:03,280
Speaker 3: He said, Look, I was very close to two jobs.

3002
02:20:03,360 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I could have had two

3003
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 3: different jobs, and I was brought in by the owner

3004
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:10,480
Speaker 3: to cross check the final decision in both cases. They

3005
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:13,680
Speaker 3: asked me, Tony, I'm a little concerned. Football is a violent,

3006
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:16,240
Speaker 3: emotional game. I need to know you've got that extra

3007
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:18,320
Speaker 3: gear that you can go into the locker room some

3008
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:20,600
Speaker 3: days and swear and yell and throw things and put

3009
02:20:20,600 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 3: the fear of God into these men, maybe drop an

3010
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:24,720
Speaker 3: F bomb or two. I need to know you've got

3011
02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:27,680
Speaker 3: that fire in your belly, don't He says, I can't

3012
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:30,360
Speaker 3: do that. That's not who I am. Not only is

3013
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:32,360
Speaker 3: that not who I am, I really don't think it works.

3014
02:20:32,680 --> 02:20:34,520
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, even if I were to

3015
02:20:34,600 --> 02:20:38,360
Speaker 3: do that, they'd see right through me. And I found

3016
02:20:38,400 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 3: a kind of ironic. You'd question a guy who played

3017
02:20:40,440 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 3: seven years in the NFL. So he didn't get either

3018
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:46,039
Speaker 3: of those jobs, but he would have had he given

3019
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 3: the right answer. Finally, in nineteen ninety six, Malcolm Blazer,

3020
02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:55,280
Speaker 3: the owner of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, same situation, Tony,

3021
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 3: I need to know you have this extra gear. Tony says,

3022
02:20:57,600 --> 02:20:59,800
Speaker 3: I can't do that, not my style. Don't think it works.

3023
02:21:00,120 --> 02:21:03,280
Speaker 3: They'd see red through me. I have my stappaball. Bottom

3024
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:07,320
Speaker 3: line is Glazer sat back in his chair. He says, Tony,

3025
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:09,640
Speaker 3: I think you've won me over. Let's give this a try.

3026
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 3: I think you're my guy. Obviously, he handed over a

3027
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:14,720
Speaker 3: Super Bowl team to John Gruden. He went on two

3028
02:21:14,720 --> 02:21:17,520
Speaker 3: thousand and seven to beat the Bears, and the rest

3029
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:21,080
Speaker 3: is history. So what's the moral People think they know

3030
02:21:21,240 --> 02:21:23,960
Speaker 3: why the enemy hasn't been hired. You know who knows

3031
02:21:23,959 --> 02:21:27,640
Speaker 3: why b enemy hasn't been hired? Eric, Yes, he's the

3032
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 3: only one who knows, just the same way that Tony

3033
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 3: Dungee was the only one who knew, and he revealed

3034
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:36,920
Speaker 3: it to me. So look, I think Bianemy will get

3035
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:39,199
Speaker 3: his chance someday. But I take my hat off because

3036
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:42,880
Speaker 3: he's moving the needle in Washington, and hell, I haven't

3037
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:44,959
Speaker 3: you know what used to be the old saying about

3038
02:21:44,959 --> 02:21:47,680
Speaker 3: the senators first in war, first in peace, last in

3039
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:51,119
Speaker 3: the American League. The same as it, Dan Washington Commanders, come.

3040
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:53,520
Speaker 2: On, I love it, I love it. That's a great story.

3041
02:21:53,760 --> 02:21:54,240
Speaker 1: Perty up.

3042
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 2: Wonder now that Week one is almost done in the preseason,

3043
02:21:58,160 --> 02:22:00,600
Speaker 2: is there anybody running out the bet week one of

3044
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 2: the regular seasons based on what they saw today, like

3045
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:06,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna get an advantage or people still holding off

3046
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:07,279
Speaker 2: not based.

3047
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,520
Speaker 3: On what they saw today. Pros bet numbers and you

3048
02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:13,800
Speaker 3: look for market inefficiencies based on power ratings from statistics

3049
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:17,039
Speaker 3: from last year. So there's already been heavy Week one action,

3050
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:18,480
Speaker 3: a lot of it coming in on the Lions, by

3051
02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:22,400
Speaker 3: the way, So nothing that happens in the preseason truly matters.

3052
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:25,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm probably gonna have to retweet my same

3053
02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:27,680
Speaker 3: tweet with my picture of my Lion's credential again covered

3054
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:30,520
Speaker 3: the greatest four and oh team in history, the eight Lions.

3055
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:33,960
Speaker 3: Rod Marinelli scored eighty points, gave up thirty two. Last

3056
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:36,160
Speaker 3: year at this time the Raiders were dancing in the ailes.

3057
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 3: They were four and zero. Nothing matters because for the

3058
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:42,240
Speaker 3: most part, a lot of these games are decided about

3059
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:44,039
Speaker 3: guys that will be working at NAP all the parts

3060
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:47,680
Speaker 3: next month. Something wrong with that. Good Christian values, good

3061
02:22:47,720 --> 02:22:52,040
Speaker 3: clean work, good benefits everything. But it's really not National

3062
02:22:52,040 --> 02:22:56,320
Speaker 3: Football League preseason matters because there's a financial component to

3063
02:22:56,320 --> 02:22:59,360
Speaker 3: the NFL. But also the years I covered the Lions,

3064
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 3: coaches really felt they couldn't completely evaluate position battles unless

3065
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:05,440
Speaker 3: you were in a live game.

3066
02:23:05,640 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 1: Plus, you want to.

3067
02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:08,800
Speaker 3: Look at the progress of your draft choices from the

3068
02:23:08,879 --> 02:23:10,720
Speaker 3: year before to the next year. You get that in

3069
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:13,040
Speaker 3: live action. You get a lot of it in those

3070
02:23:13,080 --> 02:23:16,480
Speaker 3: control practices and scrimmages, but even more so in live action.

3071
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 3: But to answer your question, Arnie, there's nothing that's happening

3072
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:22,680
Speaker 3: today or in the preseason that's going to cost somebody

3073
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:25,360
Speaker 3: to change their bet in the regular season, at least

3074
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:26,600
Speaker 3: for people who know what they're doing.

3075
02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:29,800
Speaker 1: So, Bernie, I got a couple more. One is this

3076
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:33,360
Speaker 1: just because I know how plugged in you are, and

3077
02:23:33,400 --> 02:23:35,440
Speaker 1: more than anything, even if you haven't talked to anybody,

3078
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:37,680
Speaker 1: what's your take on what's happening with Jim Harbaugh at

3079
02:23:37,680 --> 02:23:38,560
Speaker 1: Michigan right now?

3080
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about that three weeks ago, a Jason

3081
02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:44,160
Speaker 3: with you and Aaron. I know for a fact that

3082
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:50,320
Speaker 3: the NCAA wanted six games. How they managed to negotiate four.

3083
02:23:50,480 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 3: But as I said, then these things have to go

3084
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:56,200
Speaker 3: to an oversight committee who will either approve it or not,

3085
02:23:56,560 --> 02:23:59,760
Speaker 3: and they turned out not to approve it. Look, Carbaugh,

3086
02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:01,880
Speaker 3: I joke three weeks ago with you guys, the cover

3087
02:24:01,959 --> 02:24:04,560
Speaker 3: ups always worse than the cheeseburger. And it all started

3088
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:09,080
Speaker 3: out by meals he bought during COVID. Didn't tell the truth, right,

3089
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:13,039
Speaker 3: Carball did in the effect of in court, when you

3090
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:16,599
Speaker 3: would perjure yourself under oath, you don't lie to the NCAAA.

3091
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 3: That's a level one violation. Then they started stacking up

3092
02:24:19,640 --> 02:24:21,920
Speaker 3: a bunch of other Level two violations have to do

3093
02:24:21,959 --> 02:24:27,160
Speaker 3: with practice times, zoom calls, texting recruits a lah Kelvin Samson.

3094
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 3: The bottom line is, whatever happened, and I'll get to

3095
02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:32,040
Speaker 3: the bottom of it. I haven't made enough calls yet

3096
02:24:32,040 --> 02:24:35,600
Speaker 3: because it don't really care Harball. Good news, Harball will

3097
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:37,680
Speaker 3: be back on the sideline against Harvey Thors School a

3098
02:24:37,720 --> 02:24:40,080
Speaker 3: trucking week one. You know they're sweating that one out.

3099
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,640
Speaker 3: But well, here's where I'm going with this. This isn't

3100
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:45,720
Speaker 3: done yet, so carry over into twenty twenty four, and

3101
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:48,040
Speaker 3: then you know, the speculation about Harball going to the

3102
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:51,360
Speaker 3: NFL will resume itself. So what we have here is

3103
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:55,960
Speaker 3: a situation where whatever happened, it was serious, serious enough

3104
02:24:56,400 --> 02:25:01,680
Speaker 3: to where Mike McDonald, the defense coordinator for Baltimore Ravens,

3105
02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:04,360
Speaker 3: who was on Harball staff when this is going on,

3106
02:25:04,480 --> 02:25:07,560
Speaker 3: is getting a show cause penalty. So something happened here.

3107
02:25:07,600 --> 02:25:11,200
Speaker 3: There's more meat on the bone. And Harball's offensive coordinator

3108
02:25:11,240 --> 02:25:15,240
Speaker 3: and defensive coordinator week one both got or no tight ends.

3109
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:18,240
Speaker 3: Coach and offensive coordinator are both suspended week one that's

3110
02:25:18,280 --> 02:25:21,200
Speaker 3: already been since decided. So there's more meat on the

3111
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:24,000
Speaker 3: bone here. But as we talked about three weeks ago, Jason,

3112
02:25:24,040 --> 02:25:26,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't truly going to be decided until the NCAA

3113
02:25:26,640 --> 02:25:29,039
Speaker 3: committee put their stamp on it. And guess what they're

3114
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:30,480
Speaker 3: at loggerheads.

3115
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 2: Birdie, I got three questions all up at all under

3116
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,760
Speaker 2: the water. Did Phil Mickelson really who's one hundred million gambling?

3117
02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 2: Did he really bet a billion? And do you have

3118
02:25:38,240 --> 02:25:39,640
Speaker 2: any good stories on him?

3119
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Well?

3120
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean he did. Yeah. Billy Walters book, Billy's

3121
02:25:44,120 --> 02:25:46,440
Speaker 3: a legend. When his book comes out, I think August

3122
02:25:46,440 --> 02:25:49,120
Speaker 3: twenty seventh, he'll lay it all out. A lot of

3123
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:53,519
Speaker 3: these are documented because you know, Billy Walters certainly had access.

3124
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:56,400
Speaker 3: The thing about Mickelson, he may have lost a hundred

3125
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:58,600
Speaker 3: million on the Big or whatever, he still got nine

3126
02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:00,880
Speaker 3: hundred million left over. So I'm not you know, I

3127
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 3: don't think we really have to take up a collection

3128
02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:06,280
Speaker 3: played for him. I don't know a lot of great

3129
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:10,000
Speaker 3: stories about about Phil Micholson and his betting exploits other

3130
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 3: than I you know, I do believe that he clearly

3131
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:16,400
Speaker 3: he not only was such a prolific gambler in terms

3132
02:26:16,400 --> 02:26:20,959
Speaker 3: of his the amounts he bet and the volume he bet,

3133
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:23,400
Speaker 3: forty to fifty bets a day. You know, I think

3134
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:28,000
Speaker 3: the Billy Walters documented in twenty eleven Micholson made over

3135
02:26:28,080 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 3: four thousand bets that calendar year.

3136
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

3137
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 3: He used to go on Tony Kornheiser's show and Dan

3138
02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:35,560
Speaker 3: Patrick's show fifteen years ago on Fridays and gave his

3139
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:39,400
Speaker 3: best bets. So we'll see what happens when the book

3140
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:42,600
Speaker 3: comes out. But you know, like Milton Burle used to say,

3141
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:45,119
Speaker 3: I'm going to the track tomorrow, I hope I break even.

3142
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 3: I could use the money.

3143
02:26:47,480 --> 02:26:49,440
Speaker 1: I love that. So there's one other thing. I wanted

3144
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:50,800
Speaker 1: to mention it to you, and then we're gonna get

3145
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:53,960
Speaker 1: to Nick Cope with the update. Because you mentioned you

3146
02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:56,920
Speaker 1: you had to take away from the Manzell documentary on Netflix.

3147
02:26:56,959 --> 02:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I really wanted to get that before we let you go.

3148
02:26:59,320 --> 02:27:01,640
Speaker 3: I'll just say that I took a real fascination with

3149
02:27:01,720 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel because of the spontaneous combustion and how he

3150
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:08,280
Speaker 3: basically changed college football.

3151
02:27:08,879 --> 02:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Now.

3152
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:12,480
Speaker 3: It was to the point where I got my credential

3153
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 3: with the Lions back in twenty fourteen, when I found

3154
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:17,960
Speaker 3: out after Manziel was drafted by Cleveland, he played his

3155
02:27:17,959 --> 02:27:21,840
Speaker 3: first ever professional preseason game in Detroit. I got credential

3156
02:27:21,879 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 3: flew back. So the game, Manziel was seven of eleven

3157
02:27:24,879 --> 02:27:27,640
Speaker 3: sixty five yards ran for twenty seven. He could have

3158
02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:30,960
Speaker 3: easily played in the NFL. Here's the problem. He lived

3159
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:34,080
Speaker 3: an entire life where his behavior was enabled and he

3160
02:27:34,160 --> 02:27:36,480
Speaker 3: never had to deal with any kind of structure. He

3161
02:27:36,520 --> 02:27:39,840
Speaker 3: even said in the video, he said, look, when I

3162
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:42,240
Speaker 3: played quarterback, it was real simple, don't let him tackle me.

3163
02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:45,240
Speaker 3: Find the open man. Simple as that doesn't study film,

3164
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:48,119
Speaker 3: doesn't understand the framework of the NFL offense. I don't

3165
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:52,039
Speaker 3: think he liked the NFL too much, structure, too much regimen.

3166
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:55,280
Speaker 3: He couldn't be Johnny Manziel And it's the story as

3167
02:27:55,320 --> 02:27:58,760
Speaker 3: old as time. As someone with great ability, it takes

3168
02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:00,240
Speaker 3: him to a place where their character.

3169
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Can't keep them once.

3170
02:28:00,920 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 3: The moral of the story, it's a shame because his

3171
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:07,680
Speaker 3: behavior was enabled, including Cliff Kingsbury. They just kind of

3172
02:28:07,760 --> 02:28:10,160
Speaker 3: let him go, and if somebody would have straightened him out,

3173
02:28:10,400 --> 02:28:12,959
Speaker 3: he might have had a better opportunity in the NFL,

3174
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:14,480
Speaker 3: although at the end of the day, I'm not so

3175
02:28:14,600 --> 02:28:17,120
Speaker 3: sure if he cares good stuff.

3176
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:19,640
Speaker 1: Burn appreciate it, ye, catching us up on all that.

3177
02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:22,240
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to your show following us. So go

3178
02:28:22,280 --> 02:28:24,680
Speaker 1: ahead and take a breath, drink a little bit of water,

3179
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 1: and get prepared.

3180
02:28:25,959 --> 02:28:27,600
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks guys, NICs riding.

3181
02:28:27,879 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate it. That's get great stuff from Burnie. I remember,

3182
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I think he told that Doungee story to me at

3183
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:35,920
Speaker 1: some point on the air of the last few years,

3184
02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:38,160
Speaker 1: and it's always I'd forgotten it till he started telling

3185
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:41,720
Speaker 1: him like, man, I love that story. Just Dongee true

3186
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:43,879
Speaker 1: to himself, and I think maybe the enemy is being

3187
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:46,560
Speaker 1: true to himself and it might benefit Washington, if they'll

3188
02:28:46,600 --> 02:28:49,119
Speaker 1: just and listen to him, Let's go to Nick Cope

3189
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:52,720
Speaker 1: and listen to him one final time. Nick, take it away, all.

3190
02:28:52,680 --> 02:28:54,040
Speaker 2: Right, thank you so much, guys.

3191
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:56,480
Speaker 7: We had a couple of first round quarterbacks make their

3192
02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:00,039
Speaker 7: debuts today, number one overall pick Bryce Young with the

3193
02:29:00,040 --> 02:29:03,240
Speaker 7: Anthers against the Jets. He played three series, could not

3194
02:29:03,400 --> 02:29:05,440
Speaker 7: pick up a first down as he went four for

3195
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:07,200
Speaker 7: six passing twenty one yards.

3196
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:08,840
Speaker 2: Did take his sack as well.

3197
02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:12,880
Speaker 7: Also, at cold tricky quarterback Anthony Richardson struggled to move

3198
02:29:12,920 --> 02:29:15,240
Speaker 7: the India offense. He played a decent amount. He was

3199
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:18,320
Speaker 7: seven of twelve sixty seven yards and a pick. Also

3200
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 7: in that game, he had DeMar Hamlin making three tackles.

3201
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:24,600
Speaker 7: Playing for the first time since suffering cardiac arrest on

3202
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:28,680
Speaker 7: the field seven months ago, the Ravens extended their record

3203
02:29:28,720 --> 02:29:31,720
Speaker 7: preseason winning streak to twenty four games. They beat the

3204
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:35,480
Speaker 7: Eagles twenty to nineteen. Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker the

3205
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:38,480
Speaker 7: third return to practice today. He's been out since early

3206
02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:41,480
Speaker 7: camp with a groin injury. In the NBA, the seventy

3207
02:29:41,600 --> 02:29:44,720
Speaker 7: six ers have ended trade talks on James Harden and

3208
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:47,240
Speaker 7: they intend to have him at training camp to start

3209
02:29:47,360 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 7: next season. College football reports a Michigan coach Jim Harbaughs

3210
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:55,400
Speaker 7: negotiated four games suspension with the NCAA has been denied

3211
02:29:55,440 --> 02:29:58,440
Speaker 7: by the Committee on Infractions. There's not likely to be

3212
02:29:58,520 --> 02:30:02,120
Speaker 7: a resolution until next year, so Harbaugh is expected to

3213
02:30:02,120 --> 02:30:05,120
Speaker 7: be available to coach all games for the upcoming season.

3214
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:08,720
Speaker 7: Baseball Finals of note, the Orioles snapped the Mariners eight

3215
02:30:08,760 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 7: game winning streak a one to nothing win in ten innings,

3216
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,000
Speaker 7: and the Rays walked off the Guardians six to five,

3217
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:17,760
Speaker 7: so Baltimore still leads the American League East by two games.

3218
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:20,200
Speaker 7: Dodgers won their seventh in a row, four to one

3219
02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:24,560
Speaker 7: over the Ronkies. Rangers controlled the Giants nine to three,

3220
02:30:24,720 --> 02:30:27,120
Speaker 7: so LA now leads the NL West by eight and

3221
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:29,680
Speaker 7: a half games, a winning streak for the Dodgers and

3222
02:30:29,720 --> 02:30:32,480
Speaker 7: a losing streak at the moment for the Giants. Meanwhile,

3223
02:30:32,520 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 7: the Astros crushed the Angels eleven to three, so no

3224
02:30:35,240 --> 02:30:37,840
Speaker 7: movement in the American League West, still a two and

3225
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:41,039
Speaker 7: a half game lead for Texas. Brave swept the doubleheader

3226
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:44,000
Speaker 7: against the Mets twenty one to three and a six

3227
02:30:44,120 --> 02:30:47,680
Speaker 7: to nothing. Olsen homer twice in game one for Atlanta.

3228
02:30:48,000 --> 02:30:51,080
Speaker 7: Leads the big leagues with forty two home runs. Cubs

3229
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:54,199
Speaker 7: edged Blue Jays five to four. Brewers beat the White

3230
02:30:54,240 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 7: Sox three to two. Milwaukee maintains a two and a

3231
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:59,720
Speaker 7: half game lead in the NL Central Marlins topped the

3232
02:30:59,720 --> 02:31:02,000
Speaker 7: eight He's three to one. They are a half game

3233
02:31:02,040 --> 02:31:05,199
Speaker 7: back of Chicago for the final n OL wildcard spot,

3234
02:31:05,560 --> 02:31:08,160
Speaker 7: tied with the Rents. Let's send it back to Jason

3235
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:09,240
Speaker 7: Martin and Arnie Spanier.

3236
02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Appreciated, Nick, Hope, you have a wonderful rest of your weekend.

3237
02:31:12,240 --> 02:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Forty two homes for Matt Olsen and one hundred and

3238
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:21,080
Speaker 1: five RBIs wow this season. They combined to beat the

3239
02:31:21,160 --> 02:31:24,080
Speaker 1: Mets on Saturday twenty seven to three.

3240
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:26,800
Speaker 2: You're not gonna beat Hack Wilson's RBI record though he's

3241
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:27,800
Speaker 2: not gonna get close to that.

3242
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:32,600
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good to know. Thank you very much, Thank you,

3243
02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 1: thank you very much for that welcome. We are alive

3244
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:37,640
Speaker 1: in the tire rack dot Com studios. So we kept

3245
02:31:37,640 --> 02:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Bernie long as we had planned to do and was

3246
02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:43,879
Speaker 1: worth every penny of that. The James Harden story, we

3247
02:31:43,879 --> 02:31:46,840
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned it at all, probably because the Clippers haven't

3248
02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:49,200
Speaker 1: mentioned it at all, no one else has mentioned it

3249
02:31:49,200 --> 02:31:51,560
Speaker 1: at all. We could talk a little bit about that

3250
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:53,120
Speaker 1: to finish the show. But there's a couple of things

3251
02:31:53,160 --> 02:31:57,160
Speaker 1: we can whip whip around. First off, gambling specialist Arnie

3252
02:31:57,200 --> 02:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Spanier will tell you where to place your money on

3253
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:02,160
Speaker 1: the fan football that's going to be played later on today.

3254
02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:03,760
Speaker 2: God please no.

3255
02:32:04,600 --> 02:32:07,879
Speaker 1: Well we're gonna get that US out of the World Cup.

3256
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:10,200
Speaker 1: What does that mean. We'll talk a little bit about that.

3257
02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get to the NBA Hall of Fame. I

3258
02:32:14,800 --> 02:32:17,080
Speaker 1: think the thing that's not as interesting about that is

3259
02:32:17,120 --> 02:32:22,039
Speaker 1: like the four major players that got in, there's no debate,

3260
02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Like it's just like, well, yeah, of course they're all no.

3261
02:32:24,520 --> 02:32:29,360
Speaker 2: But so they're probably the most underrated superstars maybe yeah,

3262
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,520
Speaker 2: because they're not like big, vocal and all that.

3263
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:38,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, well they're pretty solid football, are pretty solid basketball. Yeah,

3264
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:42,080
Speaker 1: they're very well deserved. So we'll come back, we'll do

3265
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:43,680
Speaker 1: a little clean up on some of the things we

3266
02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:46,640
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to today, and again Arnie will tell you

3267
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:50,080
Speaker 1: who to put money real money on in fake football.

3268
02:32:50,200 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 1: That's all to finish this up. It is Jason martin

3269
02:32:52,640 --> 02:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Ardi spending here on Fox Sports.

3270
02:32:53,879 --> 02:32:58,520
Speaker 9: Radio two one cracked high in the air deep center

3271
02:32:58,640 --> 02:33:02,440
Speaker 9: field or tanging on the wall. That's gonna spraintage wings

3272
02:33:02,640 --> 02:33:06,840
Speaker 9: and fly out of here. Three run home run by

3273
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 9: Metals number forty one of the year, O one of

3274
02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:14,560
Speaker 9: the fly ball at the bright center field back there

3275
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:18,280
Speaker 9: forrest wall. So is Kevin Palar and Kevin has it

3276
02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:21,720
Speaker 9: at the warning track and it's a scoreless frame by

3277
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 9: Nikki Lopez, and it's a twenty one to three victory

3278
02:33:25,840 --> 02:33:27,480
Speaker 9: for the Braves over the Mets.

3279
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:30,959
Speaker 1: Hey. Look, I didn't pick it, but I would have.

3280
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:33,600
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3282
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm over the met so long time ago.

3283
02:33:36,280 --> 02:33:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm done. Well, what are talking about you? I was

3284
02:33:37,879 --> 02:33:40,520
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3289
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Speaker 1: That was the Fan Braves Radio network Matt Olson one

3290
02:33:57,240 --> 02:34:01,360
Speaker 1: hundred and five RBI's forty two home runs MLB lead

3291
02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:06,359
Speaker 1: now taking that from show, Hey, o Tani all right, Casey,

3292
02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans, San Francisco, Vegas. Yeah, you're gambling on them.

3293
02:34:12,920 --> 02:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure, of course, I'm timing to tell us where

3294
02:34:15,520 --> 02:34:16,680
Speaker 1: you are on these I'm.

3295
02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:19,640
Speaker 2: Five and four on my picks, oh to one on

3296
02:34:19,720 --> 02:34:22,640
Speaker 2: the over under. I always tell you the preseason is

3297
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:26,000
Speaker 2: the free season. Now. Interesting about this first game was

3298
02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:29,400
Speaker 2: the Saints were a three point favorite at home over

3299
02:34:29,440 --> 02:34:33,360
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. Word got out that Patrick Mahomes

3300
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:36,280
Speaker 2: was going to play at least the first quarter, well

3301
02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 2: not the whole quarter, but play some in the first quarter,

3302
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:43,880
Speaker 2: more likely two drives, maybe three. The Saints are not

3303
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 2: only a one point favorite at home against Kansas You

3304
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:50,840
Speaker 2: want music? You didn't ask for the music? Well, I

3305
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:54,199
Speaker 2: didn't even know we had producers, So I just figured, oh,

3306
02:34:54,320 --> 02:34:56,560
Speaker 2: you see, I knew there was something behind this.

3307
02:34:57,680 --> 02:35:00,720
Speaker 1: There going to be that. It is either gona be

3308
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Yack and sacks or it was gonna be you doing Bismarcki.

3309
02:35:03,840 --> 02:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna take the Saints minus one. And

3310
02:35:07,720 --> 02:35:10,520
Speaker 2: in the forty nine Ers Raiders. I think the Raiders

3311
02:35:10,520 --> 02:35:12,640
Speaker 2: are one of the three worst teams in the NFL

3312
02:35:12,680 --> 02:35:15,840
Speaker 2: this year. Wow, I think really? Oh and I told

3313
02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:19,080
Speaker 2: Plank that he actually agreed with me. Huh, it's gonna

3314
02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:21,359
Speaker 2: be a bad year. As matter of fact, if Devanta

3315
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Adams had been seriously hurt, I could have seen them

3316
02:35:24,200 --> 02:35:26,800
Speaker 2: getting rid of Jacobs and just say we're tyk and

3317
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:30,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Williams at quarterback. Caleb Williams, We're all

3318
02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:30,879
Speaker 2: in on him.

3319
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:32,119
Speaker 1: Blank would be all for that.

3320
02:35:32,400 --> 02:35:35,039
Speaker 2: Oh he's dying for that. He wants that in the

3321
02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:37,640
Speaker 2: worst way. Not all being said, I'm gonna take San

3322
02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:42,040
Speaker 2: Francisco minus four much better team small line. So there

3323
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:43,520
Speaker 2: you have my picks. To do with them as you please,

3324
02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:44,920
Speaker 2: no longer strictly.

3325
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:48,160
Speaker 4: Friend to taking them. I would have also played Kirby

3326
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:49,000
Speaker 4: your Enthusiasm.

3327
02:35:49,360 --> 02:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, perfect.

3328
02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:54,320
Speaker 2: I love Kurby your enthusiasm.

3329
02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:58,039
Speaker 1: That's that's the yep. That's a gift that keeps on giving.

3330
02:35:58,120 --> 02:36:00,240
Speaker 2: Right there, I think Glary David listens to me.

3331
02:36:02,959 --> 02:36:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not kidding. I actually don't want to

3332
02:36:06,320 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 1: say you're wrong, because I could actually see that.

3333
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Being well, are you a Seinfeld fan?

3334
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I wrote a long piece on Seinfeld years and

3335
02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:20,240
Speaker 1: years ago, early in my critical career, about how I

3336
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:22,240
Speaker 1: thought it was the best comedy of all time.

3337
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, you know there's another couple that's been in two

3338
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:25,800
Speaker 2: to three episodes, Arnie and Beth.

3339
02:36:25,959 --> 02:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Right, No, I didn't know that.

3340
02:36:28,760 --> 02:36:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he says, you know, Elaine said she tried

3341
02:36:32,800 --> 02:36:35,200
Speaker 2: to get fixed up with Arnie and Jerry tried to

3342
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:38,240
Speaker 2: get with Bath, I remember that. Yeah, Yeah, Arnie and

3343
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 2: Beth was the other couple.

3344
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:41,320
Speaker 1: And uh do you remember that?

3345
02:36:41,400 --> 02:36:44,160
Speaker 2: Of course, my wife's name is Beth. And is it

3346
02:36:44,280 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 2: Arnie has a bad temp or Arnie screams all the

3347
02:36:46,520 --> 02:36:48,840
Speaker 2: time we were trying to have a baby. At the

3348
02:36:48,840 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 2: time we were having a kid. I think I have

3349
02:36:51,959 --> 02:36:55,240
Speaker 2: an email somewhere from somebody at Larry David's office. But

3350
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:58,320
Speaker 2: he's a big sports radio fan. Was on Dan Patrick's show.

3351
02:36:58,320 --> 02:37:00,800
Speaker 2: But it is more of a coincidence. Beth and I'm

3352
02:37:00,840 --> 02:37:03,480
Speaker 2: bet THEINARTI come on now, it's gotta be on me.

3353
02:37:03,640 --> 02:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Come on now, all.

3354
02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:10,720
Speaker 1: Right, Look, that's just an interesting that's just an interesting Yeah.

3355
02:37:10,840 --> 02:37:14,320
Speaker 1: I man, whether that's true or not so irrelevant to

3356
02:37:14,360 --> 02:37:17,600
Speaker 1: the fact that that's still really really interesting.

3357
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:20,640
Speaker 2: You can't prove me wrong, you know what I mean.

3358
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:22,600
Speaker 2: It just it's just too much of a coin.

3359
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 1: So that's I love it. That was the There was

3360
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:27,039
Speaker 1: the YadA YadA episode.

3361
02:37:27,640 --> 02:37:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I know they were in two.

3362
02:37:30,200 --> 02:37:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of them. The YadA YadA was

3363
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:36,960
Speaker 1: that there have been a breakup and that yes dating Arnie,

3364
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:40,519
Speaker 1: and then there was they've been waiting out that relationship

3365
02:37:40,600 --> 02:37:42,760
Speaker 1: with another one. That's what you're talking about.

3366
02:37:43,000 --> 02:37:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember the whole thing. It's been a while,

3367
02:37:45,760 --> 02:37:48,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, that was. There were like two or three episodes.

3368
02:37:48,240 --> 02:37:48,880
Speaker 2: That was it, all right.

3369
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:51,360
Speaker 1: I had no idea that that story was gonna be told,

3370
02:37:51,400 --> 02:37:53,560
Speaker 1: but that was pretty interesting. That's more interesting to me

3371
02:37:53,640 --> 02:37:55,279
Speaker 1: than the thing with James Harden.

3372
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Or preseason right.

3373
02:37:57,160 --> 02:37:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

3374
02:37:58,040 --> 02:38:01,240
Speaker 2: What do you think of the James Harden deal? Gee,

3375
02:38:01,240 --> 02:38:04,800
Speaker 2: it's shocking, you know, they no guys on the market.

3376
02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:07,280
Speaker 2: He's a paint in the backside. He never wants to

3377
02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:10,119
Speaker 2: live out his contract. The Quippers didn't want to give

3378
02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:14,400
Speaker 2: up anything worthwhile Philadelphia couldn't get anything for him. They've

3379
02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:17,440
Speaker 2: got to bring him back. It's it's just it's terrible

3380
02:38:17,480 --> 02:38:20,320
Speaker 2: that he does this every year or two and just

3381
02:38:20,360 --> 02:38:22,400
Speaker 2: holds the team hostage. I really hate to see that,

3382
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:22,640
Speaker 2: you know.

3383
02:38:22,879 --> 02:38:24,600
Speaker 1: And now he's gonna go back there and They're like, oh,

3384
02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:27,480
Speaker 1: well him and emb right, they're not gonna go Yeah, yeah, sure,

3385
02:38:27,680 --> 02:38:31,200
Speaker 1: that's that's that's right. If he goes there, they will

3386
02:38:31,240 --> 02:38:33,680
Speaker 1: not win a championship. He stays in Philadelphia, They're not

3387
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:35,400
Speaker 1: gonna win a championship there. I don't care who the

3388
02:38:35,440 --> 02:38:38,640
Speaker 1: head coaches and who, it's not all of those things.

3389
02:38:39,640 --> 02:38:41,480
Speaker 1: At this point, I think we can move on. I

3390
02:38:41,480 --> 02:38:44,760
Speaker 1: did see Steve Spurrier say, as we're just kind of

3391
02:38:44,760 --> 02:38:47,000
Speaker 1: cleaning up some things we can get to. Steve Spurrier

3392
02:38:47,080 --> 02:38:49,200
Speaker 1: say FSU would be a nice fit in the SEC.

3393
02:38:49,480 --> 02:38:50,200
Speaker 2: I agree with him.

3394
02:38:50,320 --> 02:38:51,760
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Yeah, me, I would.

3395
02:38:52,360 --> 02:38:54,000
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see that happen. I'm not

3396
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:57,000
Speaker 2: saying it's still be on the rub of possibility. They

3397
02:38:57,000 --> 02:38:59,480
Speaker 2: could certainly do that. So that'd be a pretty good

3398
02:38:59,480 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 2: fit right there.

3399
02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:02,960
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I mean I think that's a natural fit.

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Speaker 1: It would make all the sense in the world if

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Speaker 1: this were to continue, they would be the one. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Grand just the stupid grand of rights and everything

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Speaker 1: in the acc them trying to have private investors in

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Speaker 1: venture capitalists helped build them out is incredible. It just

3405
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Speaker 1: shows how bad that deal actually is. Finally, US World Cup.

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Speaker 1: It's over your thoughts. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Once the United States got eliminated, I was all out,

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Speaker 2: So forget about it, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's fair. You and Plank tonight, me and Hartman

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, a few hours before you. So the first

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Speaker 1: time I've ever worked with Steve. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun working with you as well.

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Speaker 2: Art Dude, Thank you, my friend, Thank you Andy.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to the crew. Bernie Fratto, who talked with us,

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Speaker 1: is going to talk with you next