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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Well, summer is here, and you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try to do every summer because I feel

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Speaker 1: I mean, I even think about it when I'm getting

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Speaker 1: we're always in motion and in fast, crazy, fast paced.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about what happens when we slow it down.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to be summertime to slow down, but just

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Speaker 1: to slow it down. Because what's weird is I think

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Speaker 1: when we slow our days down, and we can do

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Speaker 1: it out. It feels like everything slows down. And so

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Speaker 1: when summer comes, since we don't have all the deadlines,

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Speaker 1: it's the idea of taking it slow. Like what I

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Speaker 1: feel like it should breathe. And I've noticed something about myself,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if you guys have this. When

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Speaker 1: I'm rushing, my kids hardly say anything because they're always

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Speaker 1: being rushed. We don't have any kind of conversations that

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Speaker 1: So here's an example of one of my daughters. So

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Speaker 1: let me just ask her this question. I said, so, honey,

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Speaker 1: and anyone who's got a child or knows someone with

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Speaker 1: always asking me, like what is that thing on your arm?

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Speaker 1: And sometimes my legs feel wobbly. And she was just

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Speaker 1: going through all the things that come with being a

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Speaker 1: and she said so, but I guess that's life, right, mom,

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Speaker 1: something like that. And I said, yeah, honey, And she said, well,

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Speaker 1: what's it like for you to have me? I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: my God, like it's one of the greatest blessings of

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Speaker 1: much from you, and I'm watching your resilience and you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, all the things I would have missed it.

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Speaker 1: And so my summer intention is to slow down, is

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Speaker 1: to have real conversations that are rich and full and beautiful,

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Speaker 1: I remember Maria Shriver told me the story once that

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Speaker 1: Which brings me to my next guest. Okay, she's got

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Speaker 1: a three namer, Jody Turner Smith. So Jody is such

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Speaker 1: This is a person who has such crazy tenacity, such

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Speaker 1: in a Taylor Swift video. What's fascinating about her is

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Speaker 1: how she defines joy and how she defines success. Everyone's

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Speaker 1: I think Jody has sort of cracked that nut. She

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Speaker 1: with actress Jody Turner Smith. Oh wait a minute, glam

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Speaker 2: I did my own glam today.

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Speaker 1: Oh you did not That's impossible. I did what's the

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Speaker 1: that that hair because that took work.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen.

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Speaker 3: You know what I've been so getting into is doing

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Speaker 1: Come on, you know the ones that like of course

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Speaker 1: it's like old school.

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Speaker 2: Is everything, and last night too is my I was

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Speaker 3: know what, I was eyeing those furlos and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Okay, well this is I think you need to do

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Speaker 1: By the way, I always say like I have weather

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know, you know what I I've always been

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh gosh, you know this just having to be.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm adapted.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, it's all making sense now. In high school,

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Speaker 1: of course that's what you were. What were you like

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Speaker 3: By the way, you know, I was your classic overachieva.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have an atype personality, so you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm that one who's like and I'm a Vago too,

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Speaker 3: and you know that. I always see these memes like

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Speaker 3: Virgo is like if you have Virgo in the group,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do this because if you want something done,

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Speaker 3: Definitely wanting to be in control of results. So I'm

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Speaker 3: then you know what, I was also a very big procrastinator,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just before I got in here, since you

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Speaker 1: said virgo, I just have to stop you for a

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Speaker 1: your birthdate into the big virgo situation, and this is

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Speaker 1: going to describe you and tell me if I'm right.

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Speaker 1: This is your birthday, your date, and your year. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Positive traits Thoughtful and observant. They always notice details at

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Speaker 1: others smiths. They tend to be perceptive and good listeners. Dependable.

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Speaker 1: People born on this day often take commitments seriously. If

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Speaker 1: If they say yes, they'll do it. Intelligent and curious,

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Speaker 1: ruled by mercury. They enjoy learning, asking questions, and improving

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Speaker 1: themselves caring through actions. They may not always be gushy,

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Speaker 1: High standards this is so you wait. They strive for

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Speaker 1: excellence often inspire others to do better, not because they're flashy,

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Speaker 1: but because they are quietly disciplined strong intuition. Virgos are

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Speaker 1: known for their logic, but September seventh birthdays often have

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Speaker 1: and they are loyal beyond belief. Am I hitting you right?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy because it's like as much as people

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Speaker 3: the older that I get, the more that I'm just like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But everything that you just said.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's wait, okay, hold on, challenges girl, Sorry, there's

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Speaker 1: this side of the coin. Are we ready ready? Perfectionism,

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Speaker 1: overthinking September seventh Virgos can replay conversations, analyze situations endlessly,

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Speaker 1: They like being capable the capable one, and they struggle

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Speaker 1: they can spend too much time preparing for things that

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Speaker 1: sometimes never happen. It's true, it's all your things. So

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Speaker 1: is this you okay? So this girl who we just

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Speaker 1: successful actress has had this incredible life in between? What

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Speaker 1: so often when I was in a classroom in Morgantown,

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, I was the one with the funny name.

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Speaker 1: I was the one with the crazy hair. I was

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Speaker 3: As a kid, It's so like, all you want to

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Speaker 3: You don't want to be the person who's on the outside.

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Speaker 2: You know, you crave.

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Speaker 3: Belonging, and as humans, you cred that it never goes away.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I definitely think that I did try

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Speaker 2: But I also I want to flourish, you know what

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Speaker 1: I want to do You're so right? What's harder being

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Speaker 3: Of course, first of all, just even the entrance into

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Speaker 3: I I lean on what I've learned in motherhood from

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Speaker 2: It was like way more Black people than I.

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Speaker 1: What did that feel like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's only as it was exciting,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you are so all. You speak your heart.

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Speaker 2: A multitude of reasons in a way.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's like there's so many I think sliding doors

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Speaker 3: So the first thing was, you know, so when I

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Speaker 2: Because my family was poor.

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Speaker 3: And if you had any hopes of doing anything, making

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Speaker 3: So this idea of success financial success is very motivating

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Speaker 1: This is interesting. What you're saying is super interesting because

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Speaker 1: know if you would describe it. I don't know what

437
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: that was, but I'm wondering because there's there are a

438
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: lot of studies that say if you make I don't

439
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: know a certain amount of money, you're happy. If you

440
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: make less, you're definitely unhappy, and if you make more,

441
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: you're unhappy. If you make enough enough to provide and

442
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 1: take care of and you know, do all the things

443
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: you want, you're you're at your happiest and everything else

444
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: is going to throw you. Do you think the most

445
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: joyful people you know are the ones who've made it

446
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: in terms of my family or yeah, or in general?

447
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: And you could you could use your family as an example,

448
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: or you could just use in general because you know

449
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: so many people probably in both worlds, like we all do.

450
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: But who's the most joyful of those groups?

451
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: You know? It's like yes, and know.

452
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: Do I think that the most trouble people are the

453
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: ones that made it. I think that obviously. I mean,

454
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 3: and you know, mo money, more problems, as they say,

455
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: But you know, like right now, like in my family,

456
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: like I'm sort of the person who has achieved design

457
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: and I've lived success and that has enabled me to

458
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 3: look after my family, and so in so many ways,

459
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: it's like I feel so much joy because I can

460
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: do that, and I'm I can you know what, success.

461
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: The independence that success has afforded me is incredible and

462
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: brings me so much joy. And the fact that I

463
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: can look after the people because I.

464
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Love brings me so much joy when I look.

465
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: At the world and I look at I mean, I

466
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: know so many very successful people, and I got to

467
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: say joy is.

468
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: Not in abundance among them. But I also think it's

469
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: because that's the trap, you know what I mean.

470
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: It's like a part of this idea of success is

471
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: centered around having things, and things do not bring joy,

472
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: you know. So I find that the most joyful people

473
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: are the ones who are surrounded by the ones that

474
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: they love. Because when you're surrounded by your family and

475
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: not just buy things, I find that that tends to

476
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: bring more joy. But I also just find in general

477
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: that Jamaicans tend to be the most joyful.

478
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: People that I kidding my family, yes, you know, but.

479
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, the trap is that like success

480
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: is going to bring you happiness, but then what happens

481
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,719
Speaker 3: is you you you, you know, there's so many who

482
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: have left Jamaica to come you know, abroad, to come

483
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: afar and as they say, and end upon a hamster

484
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: wheel of just working and working and working until you die,

485
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: and there's no real joy in that, you know what

486
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:40,479
Speaker 3: I mean.

487
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people who.

488
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: Their aim is to get back to Jamaica because with

489
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: the success that they've made, that with whatever small amount

490
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 3: of success that they've had abroad in Jamaica, they can

491
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 3: live a happy life because they have enough to live

492
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: off the land and to enjoy the land and to

493
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: enjoy what is much more a lot more easy to

494
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: deal with and live with and live inside of. I mean,

495
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: just being in that on that island brings me joy

496
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: and it's like it's a lot more I mean, the's

497
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: the reason why it's saying is a Jamaica nice? It

498
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: really is nice, and it's much nicer than being on

499
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: the Hamster Wheel in America.

500
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I try to get this.

501
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: I'm there at least once a year because I'm like,

502
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: and when I'm there, everyone's like, oh, do you want this?

503
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to do nothing.

504
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: And drink jelly water and go into this into and

505
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 3: touch the water, the ocean, the sea, and just give thanks.

506
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: You know, you said a word there that jumped out

507
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: at me, and the word was enough. I think it's

508
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: sort of like when's enough. What's enough, whether it's success

509
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: or whether it's money, or whether it's fame, or whether

510
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: it's and it's sort of like for many people, I

511
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: think it's the itch they can't scratch because there's always

512
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: something else. And you can call it ambition, which it is.

513
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I think ambition is great, but you also wonder about,

514
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, like the motivation part of it, because if

515
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: you genuinely are happy when you open your eyes when

516
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: nothing's happened, Like for me, it's like, I don't have

517
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: an interview that day, I'm not nothing huge as I'm

518
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: not going to the Olympics that day. Nothing's happening. I'm

519
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: just waking up. My kids are in room one and

520
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: right here they're seven and nine. There they are in

521
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: their rooms. I've got I'm going to go for I'm

522
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: going to have a t go for a walk. Like,

523
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: if you have that piece of it, I feel like

524
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: you've cracked the nut. Because I have friends who are like,

525
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: what about the next You put a book out? When's

526
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: your next one? How many times have you had a

527
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: roll and they said, Jody, what are you doing next?

528
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: You're like, I just got this. I don't know what

529
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm doing next, But everyone wants to know. You have

530
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: a kid, When's you're next? That's what everyone wants to

531
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: know about what's next. How do you stay yourself sort

532
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: of in the present where you're not always thinking about

533
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the next role, the next audition, the next whatever.

534
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 3: Gratitude, Yeah, because as I'm giving thanks for what is

535
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: here and what has shown up for me, then I

536
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: am staying present, you know, and I think that for me,

537
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: it's the most important step in the process. You know,

538
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: the finish line is always going to move because we

539
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: expand and we grow and we change. You know, what

540
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: I want wanted yesterday or last year is going to

541
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: evolve this year and today, right because I'm not the

542
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: same person I was yesterday. And last year, and every

543
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: time that I expand the tent, I need more things

544
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: to keep the tent running. But you know, I had

545
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 3: somebody tell me a long long time ago when I

546
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: first started, and I was in that conversation, you know,

547
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: like the he asked me how I was doing. I

548
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm doing well, but I

549
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: want you know and he was like, the finish line

550
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: is always going to move.

551
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: You have to learn how to be in gratitude for

552
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: this moment. And you know, I take that very.

553
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: Seriously because I also think being in gratitude is also

554
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: when you are thanking God, you're also acknowledging the blessing

555
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: and inviting more.

556
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: Hmm. I love that.

557
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: So I'm always like, yes, thank you more of it,

558
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: or please my three part mantra by the way, I

559
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: say that.

560
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: Again, Yes, thank you, thank you more of this.

561
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: That is my that is my prayer always. I am

562
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: always saying yes to what has shown up for me

563
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: because I'm not trying to say no to go.

564
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: It's so funny how doors open for you in weird ways.

565
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Pharrell Williams saw you out

566
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: one day and you were telling him about your life

567
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: plans and he's like, no, no, you should be an

568
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: actress or a model. I personally think whether or not

569
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: you ran into Pharrell Williams on that crazy night, you

570
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: would have still been exactly where you are, because you're fantastic. However,

571
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: it was nice to have someone on the outside looking

572
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: and say, wow, did you ever see yourself the way

573
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Pharrell described you? You know?

574
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Not really? You know?

575
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: And so for me that moment was because it's like

576
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: you know, and everybody always references that moment, which was

577
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: a pivotal moment in my life.

578
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: But it was pivotal not.

579
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: Because of what it changed for me in a like

580
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: exact like way, but what it changed to me, like

581
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: in a spiritual way, because for me, I just felt

582
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: like if a complete stranger can have this sort of

583
00:31:53,400 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: enthusiasm and certainty about what they see for me, and

584
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: why can I not take a chance on myself and

585
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: believe in myself?

586
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: You know?

587
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: I really I think I've always, even without knowing how

588
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: to totally identify it, felt like it is important for

589
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: me to be the strongest believer in myself. And he

590
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: inspired me to believe in myself, you know, And that

591
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 3: shifted everything because at the end of the day. There

592
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: was a lot of ground between that moment and this one,

593
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: and in that ground I had to do a lot

594
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: of work, and if I didn't do the work, I

595
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't be here, you know. But it motivated me to

596
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: want to strive and to do it. I was like,

597
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean, because it was his enthusiasm was so contagious

598
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: and inspiring, and it is for that which I am

599
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: tonally grateful.

600
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. People are like Jodie turnersmith Man, She's

601
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: like an overnight sensation. She just popped out of nowhere.

602
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: You're like, I have been grinding. Hello, what didn't people see?

603
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: You know?

604
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: I feel like everybody who really knows me knows how

605
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: hot I've worked, you know, I, as I said from

606
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: the I've always been to show your work kind of good, right.

607
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: But I think people who don't know me and who

608
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: are just meeting me and who have sort of or

609
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: started to meet me at these moments that I you know,

610
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: what they didn't see was.

611
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: How much.

612
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: I approach everything as somebody who is here to learn

613
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: and thus is not afraid to work, Like I don't

614
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: walk into anything as like I'm an expert, Like I

615
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 3: got this. I walk into everything like I am Bambi.

616
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 3: The world is my oyster.

617
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: I'm here to learn. I'm ready to learn. I'm so

618
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: open to all of the knowledge and I want it all.

619
00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: You know.

620
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: Of course people don't see all the tears and all

621
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: the hours and all the you know you were talking

622
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: about earlier, the negative side of things. I mean, so

623
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: much self doubt that I have that I've done so

624
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: much work on. Like, that's another thing that I do

625
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: a lot of work on, you know, just a constant

626
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 3: process of just like really not allowing the inner critic

627
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: to let me be paralyzed, right, because that is something

628
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: that is I can be sometimes I can get paralyzed

629
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: because I'm just I want to come up with.

630
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: The best plan, but I don't know what that is.

631
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: And it's like instead of just.

632
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: Being in the flow and just not being afraid to,

633
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: you know, roll up my sleeves and just try and

634
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: be embarrassing.

635
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny the number of people who talk

636
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: about imposter syndrome. I don't know if that's what you're

637
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: hitting on, but I interviewed to Audra McDonald, who's won

638
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: I think five tonys, who two counts anyway she goes,

639
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I have imposter syndrome. I was, I asked he,

640
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: I said, how many tonies do you need before you

641
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: stop having that? Like these are Jodie Foster like some

642
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: of these kind of older actors and actresses, And it

643
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: goes all the way to now, these are people who

644
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: are established, who we've applauded, who've received the highest accolades.

645
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Still somehow feel inside, huh, I wonder if I'm enough here.

646
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: Because there's no amount of outer affirmation, acknowledgment, hardware in

647
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: terms of awards that can quiet the inner critic. And

648
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: that's why the work is in the self. Love is

649
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: in the you really believing in you, you know, because

650
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: all that ends up happening is it's just like the

651
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: pursuit of success and money, you are constantly going to

652
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: be there will never be enough that will fill the hole.

653
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, there will never be enough. It's you.

654
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: You got to love you, You got to show up

655
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: for you, you gotta and so you know, it's I mean,

656
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: it's difficult, but for me it's like and you're you know,

657
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: and you're always going to feel like that was dumb,

658
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 3: that was stupid, Like it's not good, you know, And

659
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: and there's always going to be people, especially now social media,

660
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: who are going to comment sate that was.

661
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: Dumb, that was stupid, that's not good.

662
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: So what do you do with that?

663
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: How do you feel about yourself? What do you so?

664
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: Give me something practical, because I was imagining listening to

665
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: this as I'm driving my car saying, yeah, I feel

666
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: those things. Because it doesn't matter where you get your

667
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: critic where the criticism comes from. You could be famous,

668
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: or you could be just someone in your community and

669
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: seeing that someone has said something or someone on social

670
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: media mentioned something about it, how do you process? Like,

671
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: what do you do? What's your fit? What do you

672
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: actually do? You know?

673
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: Something that I have been trying to do, definitely within

674
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: the last five years, six years is disconnect from commentary.

675
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: That's helpful because the commentary ends up being really poisonous

676
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: it's not actually helpful, you know, And just really work

677
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: on myself. I'm reading the books, I'm doing the I'm

678
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: not a big meditator, I'm not kind quiet the mind

679
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: long enough, but.

680
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: Self care is one way that for me.

681
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, I think sometimes we can't always

682
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: intellectualize our way through things. Sometimes we just need to

683
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: let our physical body lead it. And even the smallest

684
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: things an act of self love can support you in

685
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: having mental self love. And so I just and I'm

686
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: very careful about my language, how I talk about myself

687
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: and how I talk about others, you know, that supports

688
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: it too, you know. And I stay positive towards other people,

689
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: you know, And it's like for me, I'm like, if

690
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: I keep my mental space in the light, it will

691
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: support me in pushing out the darkness.

692
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: And also just like really doing what I can.

693
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 3: You know, I have therapy, you know, to not take

694
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: myself so seriously that I get stuck.

695
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: So it's okay to be flawed. Now what am I

696
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: going to do about it? Well? How am I learning?

697
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: How am I growing such good lessons?

698
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: Not just for you?

699
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: And those are but I was just thinking about your daughter,

700
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: who's six, to even witness that when you said I

701
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: worry about how I mean, I pay attention to how

702
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I talk to myself because kids do see, no matter

703
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: what it is, if you say you hate your hair,

704
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: your kids are going to go oh or oh God,

705
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: are these tight? Your kids are going to go oh.

706
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Like you may not even be intentionally saying anything. However,

707
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: it is what it looks like to them. So when

708
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: raising your your little girl, like, how do you raise

709
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: a powerful, strong kid?

710
00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: Do you think with intention? Do nothing with intention?

711
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: And you know, thankfully, I think with my personality and

712
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 3: how I am as I said, I've been preparing for

713
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: this my whole life.

714
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: So I am one hundred percent.

715
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: You know, I'm paying attention to everything, and I'm being

716
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: very mindful about how I speak about myself and how

717
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: I speak to her, and how I allow other people

718
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: to speak to me and to her or about themselves

719
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: in front of her. You know, I'm like I be

720
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: on people.

721
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: You know, my mom everybody, She's like, leave me.

722
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: Alone, don't say that.

723
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: Language the super language. And I'm also I'm always going

724
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: to be like, here's a suggestion for language.

725
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm not just being like ah, I'm like, mom helped

726
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: me out here. What's it like raising your daughter with

727
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: your mom? What's that like?

728
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm so lucky.

729
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a blessing.

730
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: It's a blessing. And I have like a she mothers

731
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: everybody in my village. Do you know what I mean?

732
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: My friends, most of my friends talk more to my

733
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: mom than.

734
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: They talk to me, why does she give great advice.

735
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 3: Relationship with their own ladship with her, she just becomes

736
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: everybody's mother, you know. And so it's like that's the

737
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 3: kind of moment that I have with me. You know,

738
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: she's really helped me. She's on one of those grandma's

739
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: who's like, I already raise kids.

740
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this.

741
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: You know, she's there like having my back, and it's

742
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 3: so inspiring because it inspires me to step up, you know,

743
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: because it's so easy, especially with you.

744
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: Know, I'm so busy. I have some much stuff going on.

745
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: But again, thank god, that's happy personally that I have,

746
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 3: because you know, that's always been my way. It's like, yes,

747
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm trying to achieve all of these things, but when

748
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: I chose to become mother, I chose that with all

749
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: of me, and so I am also mothering. I'm not

750
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: that mother who's like, you know, I need a break

751
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 3: from my kid. I don't want to do you know

752
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: what I mean?

753
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: Is it hard? Is it exhausting?

754
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: Absolute? And sometimes like okay, you know what, let's both

755
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 3: walk away right now and just take a little space

756
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: from each other. Of course we're humans, but like I'm

757
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: all over it, you know, it's why, It's why I

758
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: have my mom instead of having nanny.

759
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: It's like it's kind of hard to have nanny sometimes

760
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: because nanny cultures so like they want to raise you.

761
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: They used to they raise the kid. Yeah, like I'm

762
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: more of a mummy's help but kind of good, and

763
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: I have one in my mom.

764
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Something strange happened to me with not strange, but something

765
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: made me uncomfortable. Happen with my kids the other day.

766
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: So we were it was the first grade kind of

767
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: sleepover with moms and kids. And I'm not with my partner.

768
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: He's not with us, but he is. He comes in

769
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: visits and everything's great. But they did say to my daughter,

770
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: why isn't your dad around? And I remember, I froze.

771
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I did, actually didn't. I hadn't seen that. And she said, well,

772
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: my dad, you know, and he's a lovely guy, you know,

773
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: all these great things. But he, I said, he lives

774
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: some else, but he comes. He's coming for a Father's day.

775
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: She was trying to say all these things, and I

776
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: asked her after if it made her feel uncomfortable or whatever,

777
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and she kind of brushed it off and said no.

778
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: And I just went on with it. So I'm not

779
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: going to give her more info than she needs, but

780
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: you can feel free to answer it or not. But

781
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: is there have you had? How do you handle that

782
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle because it's actually it's part of

783
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: my kids' lives and it's part of your daughter's life too.

784
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's definitely been one of those things

785
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: that is, you know, so I'm a child of divorce myself,

786
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: and you know, and so is my ex husband, you know,

787
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: and so it's like it's always been important to think about, Okay,

788
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: what is the language around which we are going to

789
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: talk about this with our daughter because it is her

790
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: new reality, you know, and we're learning as well and

791
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: not always getting it totally right. But the idea is

792
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: always two homes filled with love, you know. And I'm like,

793
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got two houses, girls, That's.

794
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Why that's that's a nice way to put it. You know.

795
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's just you got two houses,

796
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: and but you know, it's it's it's one of those things.

797
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: It's like it's so, you know, because my daughter was

798
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: quite young when when I split with her dad, and

799
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 3: and so it's like it's always you know, for me,

800
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: less difficult what I'm what she's experiencing from other people,

801
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: and more difficult just navigating the conversation with her.

802
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: That's like, you know, why why is this happening?

803
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: M And it's like you got to walk this line

804
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 3: between obviously being age appropriate and child centered in the

805
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: way that you talk about it, but also keeping it

806
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: real so that she has an understanding of what this means.

807
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: And honestly, my favorite tool in all of this has

808
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: been my favorite tool for life books.

809
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh so just seeing yourself in another So many.

810
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: Books about divorce, about what that means, you know, about

811
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: what that new world is, about what is what is

812
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 3: supposed to be happening, what's not supposed to be happening?

813
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: You know, books have children's books have been helpful as well.

814
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that is that That's such a great way.

815
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, like, every family is unique,

816
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: and families come in so many ways, and I say

817
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: that to my kids all the time. You know, there

818
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: are so many different kinds of families. I said, your

819
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: mom loves you, your dad loves you, We love you,

820
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, And so whether I think I think the

821
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: world is just different than it was, and I think

822
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: I just try to normalize it too. It's like, this

823
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: is how life goes. We're having a beautiful Oh my gosh,

824
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: you're going skiing, You're gonna go meet dad. Yay. You know,

825
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: everything is everything. I like that two houses full of love.

826
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: What brings you the most joy in your life? Right now?

827
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: My daughter.

828
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: It is, you know.

829
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: So she's six now, and you know, it's like it's

830
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: so interesting like all the different changes that kids go through,

831
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: and at every stage, I feel like someone's like, oh,

832
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: this is the best stage.

833
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: This is the best stage.

834
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: But there's something so interesting about five and six where

835
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: it's like because my daughter, and you know, everyone also says,

836
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: you know, the days are long, but the years are short,

837
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 3: and like, you know, it's it goes so fast. But

838
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: I am so enjoying watching her grow because it's like

839
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: we just get to hanging out with us is so amazing.

840
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: Like she really is my little, tiny best friend. Like

841
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: I love some of our conversations that we have. No

842
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: she gonna cry, it's just that I'm just like, I'm

843
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 3: so amazed by her.

844
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: What does she say?

845
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, just even like anything, like any

846
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 3: opinion that she has on something, the questions that she asks,

847
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: her little sassy attitude.

848
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: You know, I you know, I made to for her

849
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: sixth birthday.

850
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: You know, I threw a big party, but I also

851
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: redid her bedroom and she's she says that when she

852
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: grows up, she wants to be a jungle girl, and

853
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: she's a wild girl. So I decided to design her

854
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: room with all of these plants hanging from the ceiling.

855
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: And I was like thinking to myself, because she's got

856
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: very high ceilings.

857
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: In her room. I was like, how can I design

858
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: this so that like the plants are hanging, but like

859
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: I can get to them. And I put them all.

860
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: These protractable parts and hangers, and then we had found

861
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: together these like disco balls, these mirable planters, and we

862
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: had the two of them and she's and it was

863
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: this amazing thing where I was like, oh my god,

864
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: because she's where her room is in the house. When

865
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: the sun is coming down, it's shining in the windows.

866
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: And so I then I got this idea, and I

867
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: got all these prisons and mirror balls that I also

868
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: hung from the ceiling. And she's also got that these

869
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: hot air boss and so she's like it's fall plast

870
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: and I did this like Ivy Planter, Like I planted

871
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: Ivy like on the side. If I just got this

872
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 3: unbelie with like a reading book underneath it, and because

873
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: I'm so I'm trailing the high and then she's got

874
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: this big vinca plant that's like right in front of

875
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: the bed, so like all the.

876
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: Lines hang down in front of her reading nook. And

877
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: it's just like when it's magic. How it is.

878
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: By the way, can I just say that it's such

879
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: a beautiful wow? Okay, I cannot believe the Agency is.

880
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: I can believe that this is. I'm bringing this up

881
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: now at this point in the interview because you're so

882
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: fascinating on so many levels that all of your roles

883
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: are like, oh yeah, that too. But the Agency season two.

884
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: Well, so you know, at the end of season one,

885
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: if we didn't know what Samya's fate was going to

886
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 3: be in you can see from some of these trailers

887
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: that have come out, Samya is in captivity, which is

888
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: such a life changing and I wanted to say a

889
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 3: word that I won't say on this has messed up

890
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: situation to be in, you know, And so it's like

891
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: there is you know, we're really finding for her like

892
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: some season two of the agencies. I feel like season

893
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: one was a little bit more of a slow ban, right.

894
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, introducing this kind of world

895
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: an idea, and we're like and also people were like,

896
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: what's going on with Samya?

897
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: Like fy that kind of thing.

898
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: But season two, I think is like immediately, it's immediately

899
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 3: just like balls to the wall like action that everything

900
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 3: that the stakes have gone from seventy five to one thousand,

901
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: and here's Martian Weaving continued to weave this tangled web

902
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: so that undo the damage that he has done to

903
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: this woman.

904
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe how I mean not to mention. I

905
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: mean a lot of actors when they play a role

906
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: like Samya, they would play the role. But you're like

907
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: you you are so immersed in her, I mean from

908
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: the language from I mean, did you insist on speaking Arabic?

909
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Was that learning it? Or did you could have just

910
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: memorized and gone on.

911
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: But you you know, the funny thing is so in

912
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 3: season one, you know, we had some scenes in Arabic

913
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: and then you know, we were like the actors as

914
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: we were like, it doesn't make sense that this scene

915
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: would be in English.

916
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: Like if we're if I'm doing a scene and it's

917
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: Samya and Osman.

918
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: And Dalaga, It's like, there's no reason why if it's

919
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: just us and we're alone, we would be speaking. So

920
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: we were actually like always pushing from scenes in all

921
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: in Arabic because we felt like that would be authentic

922
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: and we really wanted to. You know, I think this

923
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: is for me, this is the first time I've watched

924
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: on a show where they really are investing in us

925
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: being able to authentically as authentically as possible play these characters.

926
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: You know, I've done so many roles where I was

927
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: meant to have an accent or speaking of the language,

928
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 3: and it was on me to find a dialect coach

929
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: or somebody so that this could be done well, you know,

930
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: and I mean we have.

931
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, we've got an incredible Arabic.

932
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: Scholar actually, kalent Abnama, who not only works with me

933
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: doing Arabic Arabic lessons, but then we do our sessions

934
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: as well, obviously for the scenes and the scene work,

935
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 3: and then he's on set with us, but we are

936
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: you know, It's as I've said, I've never been afraid

937
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: of working hard, and I love this show.

938
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: I love this character.

939
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: You know, this journey that she's on is so intense

940
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: and heartbreaking, not just because like how far she's fallen.

941
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, she's an intellect and she has fallen so

942
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: low because she chose to love the wrong man and

943
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: woman is not always okay, so sad about that, you

944
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

945
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I need to correct something you said in the beginning.

946
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: You said, quote, I'm a procrastinator. That's what you said. Okay,

947
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm going to tell you that's not true,

948
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: because after everything I've heard during this discussion, there's no

949
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: way on God's green earth that you could have gone

950
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: from where you were to where you are without doing

951
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: exactly what you said you do, which is you write

952
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: it down. You have your list. Where's your notepad? Que

953
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: the notepad? Again? I mean, this is what you do.

954
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: So I maybe you describe yourself that way, but of

955
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: all the things to take off the list, I'm going

956
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: to ask you to scratch that one because that is

957
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: not you at all.

958
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: I don't hear way, but but I definitely I pick

959
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 3: my moments definitely. And the thing is, I'm just such

960
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: a hard worker.

961
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and you can't be both. You can't be a

962
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: procrastinate and a hard worker. Sorry, if you're playing candy crush.

963
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: And then I just don't sleep to get all the

964
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 2: work done.

965
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: All right, all right, girl, Well look let me tell

966
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: you something. I'm not going to ask you what you're

967
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: going to do next, because I want to be right

968
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: where we are. So I want to say thank you.

969
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: You're an awesome interview. Thanks for coming on the podcast. Honey,

970
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. All right, love to your sweet daughter.

971
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: You got it, Take care. Okay. Jody is awesome, and

972
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: I also like just her depth of thinking she's got.

973
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: She just has a good handle on things. I think,

974
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times when people have been

975
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: to Hollywood and done all these great things, their perspective changes.

976
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: She just seems like sort of girl next door, someone

977
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: who you'd want to good hang with, someone who is

978
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to improve herself all the time. I just I

979
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: think she's got all the beats, and I just love

980
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: her take on life. I hope you guys did too. Okay,

981
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, I love myself. A poem. Here's one, and

982
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: this kind of reminded me of Jody. It's called The

983
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: Little Things you know, life isn't about all the Emmys,

984
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the Grammys, the whatever. It's about stuff that happens on normal,

985
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: everyday bits and pieces. So here we go, the little things.

986
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: The little things carry you a glance that lingers, a smile,

987
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: like sunlight spilling through the curtains, a text that said,

988
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: I heard a song that reminded me of you. When

989
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: the night feels endless and stillness sinks into your bones,

990
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: even a whisper of light can hold you, even a

991
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: tiny can remind you that you're alive. It's always been

992
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: the small gestures, the soft ones, the fleeting ones that

993
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: echo the loudest. The little things are not little. They

994
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: are everything that poems entitled the little Things. Thanks for listening, guys,