1 00:00:07,266 --> 00:00:09,666 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the 2 00:00:09,786 --> 00:00:24,626 Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, This is 3 00:00:24,666 --> 00:00:28,106 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager. This is the Season with Peter Schrager, and 4 00:00:28,786 --> 00:00:31,346 Speaker 1: there is a special episode We're clear in the decks. 5 00:00:31,506 --> 00:00:34,306 Speaker 1: This is for you fantasy football heads. I really labored 6 00:00:34,626 --> 00:00:39,346 Speaker 1: on doing a fantasy football podcast episode because I don't 7 00:00:39,386 --> 00:00:43,106 Speaker 1: know the space a little saturated, if you will. Sometimes 8 00:00:43,106 --> 00:00:45,586 Speaker 1: I roll my eyes when I see people on TV 9 00:00:45,706 --> 00:00:47,706 Speaker 1: talking about fantasy football and I know that like, guy 10 00:00:47,746 --> 00:00:49,826 Speaker 1: it's a no munch, or that guy doesn't know it's 11 00:00:49,906 --> 00:00:53,186 Speaker 1: just reading something from something. But I think there is 12 00:00:53,186 --> 00:00:55,586 Speaker 1: a service to be done because there are a lot 13 00:00:55,626 --> 00:00:57,706 Speaker 1: of you who listen to this podcast who are walking 14 00:00:57,746 --> 00:01:00,946 Speaker 1: into a fantasy football draft this weekend and you don't 15 00:01:01,026 --> 00:01:04,186 Speaker 1: quite feel one hundred ready. We're gonna fine tune it 16 00:01:04,226 --> 00:01:06,866 Speaker 1: a little bit with three guests this week, guys that 17 00:01:06,946 --> 00:01:08,946 Speaker 1: I have grown to really like, and they have a 18 00:01:08,986 --> 00:01:13,186 Speaker 1: podcast of their own. Our guests guys who were put 19 00:01:13,186 --> 00:01:18,146 Speaker 1: together once they started working at The Ringer for Bill Simmons, 20 00:01:18,226 --> 00:01:21,266 Speaker 1: and since then their podcast has taken off. I really 21 00:01:21,386 --> 00:01:23,306 Speaker 1: enjoy listening to them. I don't even really care about 22 00:01:23,306 --> 00:01:25,706 Speaker 1: their football stuff. I love their personalities and their rapport. 23 00:01:25,826 --> 00:01:28,546 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. With no further ado, the 24 00:01:28,586 --> 00:01:34,426 Speaker 1: gentlemen from the Ringer Fantasy Football Podcast, Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, 25 00:01:34,826 --> 00:01:39,546 Speaker 1: and my former producer, Craig Hurlbeck. So our guests this week. 26 00:01:39,626 --> 00:01:41,546 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I am huge fans of 27 00:01:41,586 --> 00:01:46,026 Speaker 1: their work. I typically I'm not the guy who's listening 28 00:01:46,026 --> 00:01:49,426 Speaker 1: to seven different fantasy football podcasts, but with fantasy drafts 29 00:01:49,466 --> 00:01:52,666 Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, in so many tweets and text 30 00:01:52,746 --> 00:01:56,986 Speaker 1: I'm getting about, oh Fantasy draft time, I thought it 31 00:01:56,986 --> 00:01:59,866 Speaker 1: would be fun to have on my favorite fantasy football 32 00:01:59,946 --> 00:02:03,426 Speaker 1: podcast host. These guys do it three times a week. 33 00:02:03,466 --> 00:02:05,466 Speaker 1: They do it over on The Ringer and I really 34 00:02:05,546 --> 00:02:08,186 Speaker 1: enjoy their poor and also their information. 35 00:02:08,506 --> 00:02:08,626 Speaker 2: Uh. 36 00:02:09,306 --> 00:02:13,786 Speaker 1: Craig Hrlbeck, Danny Kelly, Danny Hifetz. Theyre the gentleman from 37 00:02:13,786 --> 00:02:17,266 Speaker 1: the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. Gentlemen, Welcome to the season 38 00:02:17,306 --> 00:02:18,066 Speaker 1: with Peter Schrager. 39 00:02:18,226 --> 00:02:21,466 Speaker 3: Thanks for having us, Shregs. It's great to be back, Shregs. 40 00:02:21,546 --> 00:02:22,146 Speaker 3: I've missed you. 41 00:02:22,826 --> 00:02:27,026 Speaker 1: Let's explain. Let's explain our history. Craig, So, I really 42 00:02:27,026 --> 00:02:28,666 Speaker 1: love you. I think you're awesome at what you do. 43 00:02:28,746 --> 00:02:31,586 Speaker 1: And now I listen to you not only on this podcast, 44 00:02:31,626 --> 00:02:35,386 Speaker 1: but on you know, the Town podcast where you're always 45 00:02:35,426 --> 00:02:37,786 Speaker 1: giving your your thoughts to Matt Maloney and you're giving 46 00:02:37,906 --> 00:02:40,546 Speaker 1: like a little different generation than him, maybe maybe one 47 00:02:40,586 --> 00:02:42,666 Speaker 1: that's you know, more of the target audience at times, 48 00:02:43,226 --> 00:02:46,146 Speaker 1: but also on the rewatchable like you've blown up quite 49 00:02:46,146 --> 00:02:48,186 Speaker 1: a bit. You got married, you're a fully grown man. 50 00:02:48,186 --> 00:02:51,786 Speaker 1: But you and I we met two years ago at 51 00:02:51,826 --> 00:02:53,306 Speaker 1: the height of the pandemic, and if you want to 52 00:02:53,306 --> 00:02:55,986 Speaker 1: tell the listeners our relationship help blossomed, I'm here to 53 00:02:55,986 --> 00:02:56,506 Speaker 1: listen as well. 54 00:02:56,626 --> 00:02:57,546 Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. 55 00:02:57,626 --> 00:02:59,866 Speaker 4: During the pandemic, we did a show called Flying Coach 56 00:02:59,986 --> 00:03:03,186 Speaker 4: with Me, Shregs and the one and only Sean McVay 57 00:03:03,386 --> 00:03:06,386 Speaker 4: on the Ringer podcast Network. Ten episodes with Sean shreg 58 00:03:06,666 --> 00:03:09,266 Speaker 4: and all the coolest coaches, all their best friends from 59 00:03:09,346 --> 00:03:11,266 Speaker 4: around the league, and it's still up on the Ringer 60 00:03:11,306 --> 00:03:11,906 Speaker 4: podcast never. 61 00:03:11,946 --> 00:03:13,186 Speaker 3: You can go listen to it right now. 62 00:03:13,986 --> 00:03:17,266 Speaker 4: I highly recommend it, specifically the Shanahan episode. Great episode 63 00:03:17,266 --> 00:03:18,226 Speaker 4: and Tomlin. 64 00:03:18,346 --> 00:03:22,026 Speaker 1: So good dude. All fly Delta and they have like 65 00:03:22,026 --> 00:03:24,386 Speaker 1: a little section on the Delta and it says podcasts 66 00:03:24,466 --> 00:03:26,186 Speaker 1: and those Flying Coach episodes are sitting there on the 67 00:03:26,226 --> 00:03:29,106 Speaker 1: plane and I'm so proud of them. Yeah, it's crazy. 68 00:03:28,946 --> 00:03:32,426 Speaker 1: The story I love to tell though, is, obviously you 69 00:03:32,466 --> 00:03:35,666 Speaker 1: sent equipment to both me and Sean. I get the equipment, 70 00:03:35,706 --> 00:03:37,866 Speaker 1: set it up, no problem. Here's the NFL's coach of 71 00:03:37,866 --> 00:03:39,026 Speaker 1: the Year. And what had to happen. 72 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:41,986 Speaker 4: He needed a personal visit for myself to come and 73 00:03:42,026 --> 00:03:44,746 Speaker 4: set his equipment up, which, listen, I was happy to do. 74 00:03:45,026 --> 00:03:46,946 Speaker 4: I was happy to be there and help him out. 75 00:03:46,986 --> 00:03:49,346 Speaker 4: So he wasn't as bad as Pete Carroll. 76 00:03:49,186 --> 00:03:52,546 Speaker 3: Though, So pet Carrol the year before, you need a 77 00:03:52,546 --> 00:03:54,386 Speaker 3: little more savvy than Carroll technologically. 78 00:03:55,946 --> 00:03:58,546 Speaker 1: Yeah, both will be going at it in the NFC West. 79 00:03:58,546 --> 00:04:03,106 Speaker 1: All right, So your podcast, it's three guys. You talk football, 80 00:04:03,106 --> 00:04:05,186 Speaker 1: but you talk life, You talk all sorts of stuff. 81 00:04:05,186 --> 00:04:08,066 Speaker 1: And I like it because it's not so numbers banging 82 00:04:08,066 --> 00:04:10,346 Speaker 1: you over the head with the term ADP, and it's 83 00:04:10,386 --> 00:04:12,786 Speaker 1: not so much it's more about the lifestyle of playing 84 00:04:12,826 --> 00:04:13,706 Speaker 1: fantasy football. 85 00:04:14,026 --> 00:04:16,346 Speaker 5: The best compliment we get is people ask us, oh, 86 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:18,666 Speaker 5: so you guys were friends and they gave you a podcast. 87 00:04:18,906 --> 00:04:22,386 Speaker 5: We actually became friends doing the show, and it's we 88 00:04:22,466 --> 00:04:25,426 Speaker 5: all have like wildly different backgrounds, and I think what's 89 00:04:25,466 --> 00:04:27,826 Speaker 5: different between us and other fantasy shows. It's not better, 90 00:04:27,866 --> 00:04:30,906 Speaker 5: it's not worse. It's like, although fantasy shows are fantasy experts, 91 00:04:31,226 --> 00:04:33,266 Speaker 5: and we all, like none of us really came up 92 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:35,066 Speaker 5: as fantasy football experts at all, So I think we 93 00:04:35,186 --> 00:04:38,066 Speaker 5: just have different kinds of conversations. The reality is that 94 00:04:38,106 --> 00:04:41,106 Speaker 5: fantasy football is the best way for adult American men 95 00:04:41,186 --> 00:04:43,746 Speaker 5: to stay in touch as they get in their twenties, thirties, 96 00:04:43,826 --> 00:04:44,546 Speaker 5: forties and beyond. 97 00:04:44,626 --> 00:04:46,906 Speaker 4: Like people, we talked about this all the time. It's 98 00:04:46,906 --> 00:04:49,986 Speaker 4: like our new religion is like it's the way we gather, 99 00:04:50,066 --> 00:04:51,186 Speaker 4: It's the way we. 100 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:51,586 Speaker 3: Like hang out. 101 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:54,586 Speaker 4: Nowadays we all sit in our houses online and stuff 102 00:04:54,626 --> 00:04:57,146 Speaker 4: like that. There's nowhere to like really congregate, and fantasy 103 00:04:57,146 --> 00:04:58,506 Speaker 4: football is the best way to stay in touch with 104 00:04:58,506 --> 00:04:59,626 Speaker 4: people who you don't live there. 105 00:04:59,546 --> 00:05:02,666 Speaker 5: Just people get married, kids, there's and then there's a schedule. 106 00:05:02,666 --> 00:05:04,466 Speaker 5: It's like the games. Everything's at the same time of 107 00:05:04,466 --> 00:05:06,866 Speaker 5: the year. It really is about like it's kind of 108 00:05:06,906 --> 00:05:09,466 Speaker 5: like the kitchen island where friend groups can stay together virtually. 109 00:05:09,906 --> 00:05:13,066 Speaker 1: Yes, it is true, like you know you have that 110 00:05:13,266 --> 00:05:15,106 Speaker 1: calendar and it's like summer you won't talk to these 111 00:05:15,146 --> 00:05:17,266 Speaker 1: people at all, and everyone's on their trips and everyone's 112 00:05:17,306 --> 00:05:20,506 Speaker 1: work and whatever. And then that September first week starts 113 00:05:20,506 --> 00:05:22,066 Speaker 1: and the kickoff goes, and all of a sudden, you're 114 00:05:22,066 --> 00:05:23,466 Speaker 1: on a text chain with the same guys you've been 115 00:05:23,466 --> 00:05:24,906 Speaker 1: on a text chain with for twenty straight years. 116 00:05:24,906 --> 00:05:26,866 Speaker 4: It's like you never left it is, yeah, all right, 117 00:05:26,906 --> 00:05:27,826 Speaker 4: but you guys do. 118 00:05:27,746 --> 00:05:30,506 Speaker 1: Follow it really closely day to day. So I wanted 119 00:05:30,506 --> 00:05:33,906 Speaker 1: to give up some topics for viewers or listeners who 120 00:05:33,906 --> 00:05:35,546 Speaker 1: are tuning in to be like, all right, I got 121 00:05:35,546 --> 00:05:39,386 Speaker 1: my draft this weekend. I'm not necessarily studying, you know, 122 00:05:39,906 --> 00:05:43,346 Speaker 1: every NFL network show and learning what Anthony Richardson's doing 123 00:05:43,346 --> 00:05:45,426 Speaker 1: on a down to down basis, but you guys have 124 00:05:45,506 --> 00:05:46,666 Speaker 1: put the work, and here's what IM gonna do. I'm 125 00:05:46,666 --> 00:05:49,066 Speaker 1: gonna give you some topics and I want answers from 126 00:05:49,106 --> 00:05:50,986 Speaker 1: each of you guys, which are going to service tips 127 00:05:50,986 --> 00:05:54,106 Speaker 1: and clues for my listeners who are doing their drafts 128 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:54,626 Speaker 1: this weekend. 129 00:05:54,666 --> 00:05:55,106 Speaker 5: Are we good? 130 00:05:55,546 --> 00:05:57,026 Speaker 1: Let's get it all right. 131 00:05:57,106 --> 00:05:57,866 Speaker 3: Let's start off. 132 00:05:57,986 --> 00:06:02,746 Speaker 1: We'll go Danny high Fitz first. Your Fantasy Football sleeper 133 00:06:02,826 --> 00:06:04,346 Speaker 1: of the Year is who. 134 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:08,546 Speaker 5: Gave Davis for the Bills. It's the most classic. It's 135 00:06:08,586 --> 00:06:13,346 Speaker 5: the class going up, class type sleeper man Gabe Dave. Again, 136 00:06:13,666 --> 00:06:16,106 Speaker 5: he was kind of too hyped up last year, and 137 00:06:16,146 --> 00:06:18,986 Speaker 5: again he was going like a top sixty pick. People 138 00:06:19,026 --> 00:06:21,506 Speaker 5: saw the four touchdown game in the playoffs, thirteen second 139 00:06:21,546 --> 00:06:23,786 Speaker 5: game against the Chiefs, People including us, got a little 140 00:06:23,786 --> 00:06:25,906 Speaker 5: too over hyped. And the reality is didn't have a 141 00:06:25,946 --> 00:06:28,106 Speaker 5: great season, kind of had this nagging I think it 142 00:06:28,106 --> 00:06:30,946 Speaker 5: was groin injury or hamstring early in the season. He 143 00:06:30,986 --> 00:06:33,706 Speaker 5: had one great game against the Steelers as sorry, Craig, 144 00:06:33,906 --> 00:06:36,346 Speaker 5: and then honestly, he was pretty terrible. Here's the thing, 145 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:40,106 Speaker 5: Gabe Davis is now going outside the top one hundred. Basically, 146 00:06:40,626 --> 00:06:44,186 Speaker 5: nothing has changed. Nothing has changed. He's still huge, he's 147 00:06:44,186 --> 00:06:46,186 Speaker 5: still fast, He's still the deep threat for the Bills. 148 00:06:46,306 --> 00:06:48,826 Speaker 5: The only thing that they've added is Dalton Kincaid, the 149 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:51,306 Speaker 5: tight end, the first rounder, who, if anything, is gonna 150 00:06:51,306 --> 00:06:53,906 Speaker 5: help Gabe Davis by working underneath. But the reality is 151 00:06:53,906 --> 00:06:56,426 Speaker 5: this is still Josh Allen's deep threat. The only differences 152 00:06:56,466 --> 00:06:59,506 Speaker 5: He's going five to six, maybe seven rounds later. And 153 00:06:59,546 --> 00:07:01,546 Speaker 5: it's exactly the point in your draft where you're pivoting 154 00:07:01,586 --> 00:07:04,866 Speaker 5: from more reliable guys to actually, I want home run threats. 155 00:07:04,906 --> 00:07:06,906 Speaker 5: I'm trying to home run a strikeout when get outside 156 00:07:06,946 --> 00:07:09,106 Speaker 5: the top one hundred and Gabe Davis to me is 157 00:07:09,146 --> 00:07:11,226 Speaker 5: like the definition of people had him last year, We're 158 00:07:11,266 --> 00:07:12,706 Speaker 5: upset and now he's too cheap. 159 00:07:13,226 --> 00:07:14,946 Speaker 1: They hold it against him for the following ers say 160 00:07:14,946 --> 00:07:16,146 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that again. It used to 161 00:07:16,186 --> 00:07:18,586 Speaker 1: happen with guys who would get injured, Like you draft 162 00:07:18,586 --> 00:07:21,306 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor and you hope draft him in the first round. 163 00:07:21,346 --> 00:07:23,666 Speaker 1: I'm dating you, guys, is before you were born. Remember 164 00:07:23,786 --> 00:07:26,386 Speaker 1: draft Fred Taylor and you're like, he's good, and then 165 00:07:26,426 --> 00:07:28,306 Speaker 1: Freddie would get hurt like week eight, and you're like, 166 00:07:28,306 --> 00:07:30,986 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it again next year, and then you 167 00:07:31,026 --> 00:07:33,266 Speaker 1: hold it against him and it's probably not fair. Danny Kelly, 168 00:07:33,306 --> 00:07:36,066 Speaker 1: your sleeper of the year this year twenty twenty three, 169 00:07:36,106 --> 00:07:36,706 Speaker 1: is whom. 170 00:07:36,866 --> 00:07:39,746 Speaker 6: I'm calling an audible today just because he was announced 171 00:07:39,786 --> 00:07:41,066 Speaker 6: as this team starter. 172 00:07:41,666 --> 00:07:44,306 Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson, quarterback for the Colts. 173 00:07:44,346 --> 00:07:47,426 Speaker 6: I think, so he's not so much a sleeper in 174 00:07:47,506 --> 00:07:48,586 Speaker 6: like the best ball streets. 175 00:07:48,586 --> 00:07:49,986 Speaker 7: I think a lot the best ball people are kind 176 00:07:49,986 --> 00:07:50,906 Speaker 7: of all over him already. 177 00:07:50,946 --> 00:07:54,026 Speaker 6: But in terms of just day to day you know 178 00:07:54,626 --> 00:07:57,666 Speaker 6: home leagues. I still think he's being really really underrated. 179 00:07:57,666 --> 00:08:01,266 Speaker 6: He brings legitimate, like top five potential at quarterback and 180 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:02,826 Speaker 6: he doesn't even have to be a good passer. That's 181 00:08:02,866 --> 00:08:04,946 Speaker 6: the beauty of it. Like he could be terrible and 182 00:08:04,986 --> 00:08:06,626 Speaker 6: by the way, he probably is going to be terrible 183 00:08:06,666 --> 00:08:09,026 Speaker 6: as passer this year. If you look at what Justin 184 00:08:09,066 --> 00:08:11,906 Speaker 6: Fields did, he was a top five, top six quarterback 185 00:08:11,946 --> 00:08:15,186 Speaker 6: going down the stretch of the season he was. 186 00:08:15,226 --> 00:08:16,266 Speaker 1: He lost ten games. 187 00:08:16,986 --> 00:08:18,746 Speaker 7: They literally went to like. 188 00:08:18,706 --> 00:08:20,426 Speaker 6: The Navy offense we joke about all the time on 189 00:08:20,466 --> 00:08:23,106 Speaker 6: our show, Like they passed the ball fewer than at 190 00:08:23,106 --> 00:08:25,026 Speaker 6: a lower rate than almost any team in the last 191 00:08:25,026 --> 00:08:28,506 Speaker 6: twenty years. You know, Anthony Richardson could be terrible at 192 00:08:28,546 --> 00:08:30,346 Speaker 6: passing and he could still be, you know, top three, 193 00:08:30,426 --> 00:08:33,226 Speaker 6: top five quarterback just because of the rushing. The way 194 00:08:33,266 --> 00:08:35,706 Speaker 6: that stats are set up in fantasy football, it really 195 00:08:35,746 --> 00:08:36,946 Speaker 6: benefits quarterbacks who run. 196 00:08:36,986 --> 00:08:39,026 Speaker 7: These are the types of guys that are league winners, 197 00:08:39,466 --> 00:08:40,706 Speaker 7: week winners, and league winners. 198 00:08:40,786 --> 00:08:43,186 Speaker 6: So Anthony Richardson, just because he can run, I think 199 00:08:43,186 --> 00:08:44,746 Speaker 6: he's going to be a big time webin for them 200 00:08:44,906 --> 00:08:46,466 Speaker 6: in the red zone, kind of like we' seen Jalen 201 00:08:46,546 --> 00:08:48,786 Speaker 6: Hurts over the last few years. Jalen Hurts double digit 202 00:08:48,866 --> 00:08:51,466 Speaker 6: rushing touchdowns last few seasons. I don't think that Richardson's 203 00:08:51,506 --> 00:08:54,946 Speaker 6: necessarily at Jalen Hurts's level yet clearly, but I think 204 00:08:55,186 --> 00:08:56,706 Speaker 6: they can use him in the red zone, kind of 205 00:08:56,746 --> 00:08:58,546 Speaker 6: like Cam Newton to punch it in. 206 00:08:58,706 --> 00:09:00,066 Speaker 7: I think he's going to score a lot of touchdowns. 207 00:09:00,066 --> 00:09:01,426 Speaker 7: I think he's gonna run a lot, and. 208 00:09:01,386 --> 00:09:02,666 Speaker 6: I think he's going to be one of the best 209 00:09:02,786 --> 00:09:04,506 Speaker 6: late round picks that you can possibly make. 210 00:09:05,346 --> 00:09:09,026 Speaker 1: Love it, Craig, take us sleeper, who you got Johan Dotson, 211 00:09:09,186 --> 00:09:11,426 Speaker 1: the wide receiver and the Commanders second year. 212 00:09:11,306 --> 00:09:13,426 Speaker 3: Guy, first to first. 213 00:09:13,466 --> 00:09:16,706 Speaker 4: People forget, you know, just because he was drafted around 214 00:09:16,786 --> 00:09:19,586 Speaker 4: Jet Wilson, Chris Alave, Jamison Williams, Treylon Burks. 215 00:09:19,626 --> 00:09:20,426 Speaker 3: I bet you if you ask. 216 00:09:20,346 --> 00:09:22,586 Speaker 4: Most people, they would not expect Johan Dotson to be 217 00:09:22,626 --> 00:09:23,266 Speaker 4: a first round pick. 218 00:09:23,306 --> 00:09:23,706 Speaker 3: Last year. 219 00:09:23,706 --> 00:09:26,546 Speaker 4: He started super hot, four touchdowns four games, and then 220 00:09:26,546 --> 00:09:28,826 Speaker 4: he got hurt, and then he came back and finished strong. 221 00:09:28,866 --> 00:09:30,706 Speaker 4: So his season long stats aren't great, which is what 222 00:09:30,746 --> 00:09:33,346 Speaker 4: people look back on. Most average fantasy players are looking 223 00:09:33,386 --> 00:09:34,826 Speaker 4: back on the season long stats, and they would look 224 00:09:34,826 --> 00:09:36,946 Speaker 4: at Johan Dotson and go, oh yeah, he wasn't as 225 00:09:36,946 --> 00:09:39,346 Speaker 4: good as Terry McLaurin last year, but in reality, the 226 00:09:39,386 --> 00:09:41,386 Speaker 4: final five games of the season, when they were both healthy, 227 00:09:41,666 --> 00:09:44,586 Speaker 4: he was beating McLaurin and all the nerdy stats that 228 00:09:44,626 --> 00:09:46,826 Speaker 4: everybody likes. Your targets per route run, their yards per 229 00:09:46,866 --> 00:09:49,746 Speaker 4: rout run, red zone targets, share, all that stuff. Straight 230 00:09:49,786 --> 00:09:51,586 Speaker 4: up targets he had more than Terry mclauurin in the 231 00:09:51,626 --> 00:09:54,146 Speaker 4: last five games of the season. Now we've got Eric 232 00:09:54,186 --> 00:09:57,506 Speaker 4: bienemy In. I like Sam holland Burssett at least enough 233 00:09:57,546 --> 00:09:59,626 Speaker 4: to make a little bit of a jump, and receivers 234 00:09:59,666 --> 00:10:01,706 Speaker 4: typically make the biggest jomp between year one and year two. 235 00:10:02,546 --> 00:10:04,906 Speaker 4: Dotson's also just an eye test guy. When you watch him, 236 00:10:04,946 --> 00:10:06,746 Speaker 4: you're like, this guy has it and you can get 237 00:10:06,786 --> 00:10:09,066 Speaker 4: him around ninetieth one hundredth in your draft right now. 238 00:10:09,706 --> 00:10:10,466 Speaker 3: I love Dotson. 239 00:10:15,906 --> 00:10:18,426 Speaker 1: I loved the conversation you guys had on your podcast 240 00:10:18,786 --> 00:10:21,466 Speaker 1: last week, and you did it about guys who might 241 00:10:21,506 --> 00:10:24,786 Speaker 1: be in the twilights of their NFL careers, and because 242 00:10:25,386 --> 00:10:28,906 Speaker 1: people just want the young, fresh, new face, they don't draft, 243 00:10:29,026 --> 00:10:32,426 Speaker 1: but then year after year can still deliver. I'm gonna 244 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:35,586 Speaker 1: call this the Keenan Allen Award where he's still around, 245 00:10:35,906 --> 00:10:38,186 Speaker 1: he still puts up numbers, and yet you look at 246 00:10:38,226 --> 00:10:40,626 Speaker 1: these top twenty wide receivers, Keenan Allen never in the list, 247 00:10:40,626 --> 00:10:42,586 Speaker 1: whenever year, finishing that high. Why don't we go around 248 00:10:42,586 --> 00:10:44,066 Speaker 1: the horn and you each give one of those names, 249 00:10:44,066 --> 00:10:45,626 Speaker 1: a guy that you know is going to deliver and 250 00:10:45,706 --> 00:10:48,066 Speaker 1: yet probably will not be drafted as high as he should. 251 00:10:48,146 --> 00:10:49,466 Speaker 1: Danny Hidefelz, I guess. 252 00:10:49,346 --> 00:10:51,346 Speaker 5: You, bud, Travis Kelcey doesn't count because he's still a 253 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:52,986 Speaker 5: first rounder. I do want to shut out that. The 254 00:10:53,026 --> 00:10:53,626 Speaker 5: only reason. 255 00:10:53,786 --> 00:10:55,626 Speaker 1: Would you take Travis kelce in the first round? Is 256 00:10:55,626 --> 00:10:57,146 Speaker 1: that happening people take on the first round? 257 00:10:57,346 --> 00:11:00,306 Speaker 5: Because here's the thing. Yeah, literally, the only argument against 258 00:11:00,306 --> 00:11:02,866 Speaker 5: Travis kelce literally is that he's thirty four years old 259 00:11:02,906 --> 00:11:05,706 Speaker 5: and people are afraid of him bottoming out. The reality 260 00:11:05,746 --> 00:11:06,546 Speaker 5: is Travis kelce. 261 00:11:06,826 --> 00:11:07,786 Speaker 3: Age is just a number. 262 00:11:07,826 --> 00:11:12,346 Speaker 4: Guys, look at you, Trager, You were better than conversations. 263 00:11:12,626 --> 00:11:14,546 Speaker 5: Is that when Craig and I were in our mid twenties, 264 00:11:14,666 --> 00:11:16,906 Speaker 5: we hated old, We hated players as the thirty. Now 265 00:11:16,906 --> 00:11:18,426 Speaker 5: Craig and I are almost thirty, and we're like, you know, 266 00:11:18,466 --> 00:11:20,946 Speaker 5: what's fine? Old players. Thirty is just the number. 267 00:11:21,346 --> 00:11:24,146 Speaker 4: But it's like it's like George Clooney turned fifteen and 268 00:11:24,186 --> 00:11:25,506 Speaker 4: he's like, you know what, I'm gonna settle down, Like 269 00:11:25,546 --> 00:11:27,226 Speaker 4: I'm actually okay with marrying somebody over the. 270 00:11:27,146 --> 00:11:28,106 Speaker 1: Interest now is time? 271 00:11:28,186 --> 00:11:28,866 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, you know what. 272 00:11:28,906 --> 00:11:30,826 Speaker 5: It's So it's like in my younger days, I was 273 00:11:30,866 --> 00:11:33,386 Speaker 5: pretty terrified to take Derek Kenry or Travis Kelsek because 274 00:11:33,426 --> 00:11:35,346 Speaker 5: I'm like, thirty, My god, he must have like a 275 00:11:35,386 --> 00:11:40,066 Speaker 5: mortgage or something. But uh, like Kelsey like hasn't missed 276 00:11:40,106 --> 00:11:42,466 Speaker 5: the game to injury. He's had he had COVID and 277 00:11:42,506 --> 00:11:44,466 Speaker 5: he had you know, they get benched in week seventeen 278 00:11:44,466 --> 00:11:46,346 Speaker 5: because they're always clinching playoffs. 279 00:11:46,586 --> 00:11:47,546 Speaker 3: Stop saying it. 280 00:11:47,706 --> 00:11:49,506 Speaker 5: I know, sorry, I'm not gonna win. I gotta Yeah, 281 00:11:49,826 --> 00:11:52,626 Speaker 5: but the Kelsey hasn't missed the game to injury, they're 282 00:11:52,666 --> 00:11:54,826 Speaker 5: not gonna what in a decade. It's like Jamar Chase 283 00:11:54,906 --> 00:11:56,826 Speaker 5: is going ahead of him. He missed it games last year. 284 00:11:56,906 --> 00:11:59,506 Speaker 5: Cooper Cup missed games last year. Like all these all 285 00:11:59,546 --> 00:12:02,466 Speaker 5: the players that are supposedly younger and safer have been 286 00:12:02,506 --> 00:12:05,186 Speaker 5: injured at some point. Kelsey hasn't, So I'm probably giving 287 00:12:05,226 --> 00:12:07,626 Speaker 5: him the kind of her as they would say, but yeah, 288 00:12:07,786 --> 00:12:11,586 Speaker 5: nice to me, Kelsey. It's like buying applestock. It's like, 289 00:12:11,626 --> 00:12:12,826 Speaker 5: this is the safest thing there is. 290 00:12:13,986 --> 00:12:17,066 Speaker 1: I'm here for the Yiddish Danny Kelly. What about you? 291 00:12:17,106 --> 00:12:19,746 Speaker 1: Who's the guy that you know? You see and you're like, 292 00:12:19,826 --> 00:12:20,386 Speaker 1: come on. 293 00:12:21,066 --> 00:12:23,266 Speaker 7: My guy this year is Dedre Hopkins. 294 00:12:23,626 --> 00:12:25,786 Speaker 1: Really with Tannehill in that offense. 295 00:12:25,826 --> 00:12:29,026 Speaker 6: So I actually like Tannehill. I think I'm the last 296 00:12:29,066 --> 00:12:32,666 Speaker 6: person on tannehill Island. I think he's solid. I don't 297 00:12:32,666 --> 00:12:36,826 Speaker 6: think he's like great. It was right there and I 298 00:12:36,866 --> 00:12:39,866 Speaker 6: freaking missed it your audio cut out, But yeah, I 299 00:12:39,866 --> 00:12:41,546 Speaker 6: mean to me, like he's he's really solid. I don't 300 00:12:41,546 --> 00:12:43,266 Speaker 6: think he's like great or anything, but he's still a 301 00:12:43,266 --> 00:12:45,426 Speaker 6: solid veteran. I think he's gonna feed a guy like 302 00:12:45,426 --> 00:12:47,826 Speaker 6: Dedre Hopkins. I think there's a lot of question marks, 303 00:12:48,186 --> 00:12:50,266 Speaker 6: you know, outside of Hopkins in terms of what we're 304 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:51,266 Speaker 6: gonna expect from this offense. 305 00:12:51,266 --> 00:12:52,506 Speaker 7: Obviously, Trailing Burks. 306 00:12:52,266 --> 00:12:53,626 Speaker 6: Is there, and he's an up and coming guy, but 307 00:12:53,706 --> 00:12:57,226 Speaker 6: he's still young, still very inexperienced, and and I think 308 00:12:57,226 --> 00:12:59,786 Speaker 6: Hopkins is just gonna get force fed in this offense. 309 00:13:00,866 --> 00:13:03,586 Speaker 6: Last year, this is this was wild to me when 310 00:13:03,586 --> 00:13:05,906 Speaker 6: I found this stat. Last year, in the nine games 311 00:13:05,906 --> 00:13:08,426 Speaker 6: that Hopkins played, he averaged ten point seven targets per game. 312 00:13:09,226 --> 00:13:09,626 Speaker 1: Really good. 313 00:13:09,706 --> 00:13:11,946 Speaker 6: The only the only player, the only receivers who had 314 00:13:11,946 --> 00:13:14,146 Speaker 6: more targets per game than him are Chase Cup and 315 00:13:14,186 --> 00:13:17,786 Speaker 6: Jefferson like the first like the first four picks, first 316 00:13:17,786 --> 00:13:22,546 Speaker 6: five picks, So you know, he's definitely getting older. But 317 00:13:22,706 --> 00:13:25,386 Speaker 6: his game has never really been built on speed or explosiveness. 318 00:13:25,386 --> 00:13:28,586 Speaker 6: It's always about body positioning. Old man at the Y type, 319 00:13:28,786 --> 00:13:31,226 Speaker 6: you know, post a guy up and skyhook him and 320 00:13:31,906 --> 00:13:37,426 Speaker 6: fundamental that guy's footwork. Yeah, getting get low, low fatality, 321 00:13:37,506 --> 00:13:39,026 Speaker 6: you know, boxing out. 322 00:13:39,106 --> 00:13:39,666 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 323 00:13:39,746 --> 00:13:41,626 Speaker 7: To me, he's just so good. 324 00:13:41,706 --> 00:13:46,066 Speaker 6: He's I heard Tannehill called him vintage Hopkins the other day, 325 00:13:46,106 --> 00:13:47,546 Speaker 6: and I think he's just going to have a really 326 00:13:47,546 --> 00:13:49,826 Speaker 6: big year. And people are forgeting about him because's a 327 00:13:49,826 --> 00:13:52,146 Speaker 6: little older and he switched teams, which that's valid, But 328 00:13:52,186 --> 00:13:53,706 Speaker 6: I still think he's going to be the focal point 329 00:13:53,746 --> 00:13:54,386 Speaker 6: of this passing game. 330 00:13:55,106 --> 00:13:57,386 Speaker 4: Craig, tell me why Derek Henry is going in the 331 00:13:57,386 --> 00:13:57,906 Speaker 4: second round. 332 00:13:57,986 --> 00:13:58,626 Speaker 3: What's changed? 333 00:13:59,306 --> 00:13:59,866 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 334 00:13:59,906 --> 00:14:00,746 Speaker 3: He had three hundred and. 335 00:14:00,706 --> 00:14:03,706 Speaker 4: Fifty carries last year, played the entire season, was the 336 00:14:03,706 --> 00:14:05,026 Speaker 4: third best running back in Fantasy. 337 00:14:05,146 --> 00:14:07,306 Speaker 3: And everyone's just like, I'm good. He's twenty eight. 338 00:14:07,466 --> 00:14:10,186 Speaker 4: No thanks, Like Leodocaprio when a girl turns twenty six, 339 00:14:10,226 --> 00:14:14,626 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm out, give me a reason why there's 340 00:14:14,706 --> 00:14:15,386 Speaker 4: nothing's changed. 341 00:14:15,466 --> 00:14:16,466 Speaker 3: He's still Dereck Henry. 342 00:14:17,106 --> 00:14:19,306 Speaker 4: We're all obsessed with this idea now that as running 343 00:14:19,306 --> 00:14:23,226 Speaker 4: backs enter their late twenties, they just, you know, I 344 00:14:23,266 --> 00:14:24,186 Speaker 4: think it's a misnomer. 345 00:14:24,226 --> 00:14:27,506 Speaker 3: Essentially, we're betting on science, you know, we're. 346 00:14:27,306 --> 00:14:31,906 Speaker 4: Betting on these phenomenal athletes preparing their bodies and actually 347 00:14:31,946 --> 00:14:34,666 Speaker 4: taking advantage of the technological advance. And we have now, 348 00:14:34,746 --> 00:14:36,226 Speaker 4: and Dereck Henry is twenty eight years old. And if 349 00:14:36,226 --> 00:14:38,746 Speaker 4: I'm going to bet on anybody to actually make it 350 00:14:38,786 --> 00:14:40,546 Speaker 4: to their thirties and not fall off, I'm gonna pick 351 00:14:40,546 --> 00:14:42,226 Speaker 4: the guy who gets three hundred and fifty carries every 352 00:14:42,226 --> 00:14:44,626 Speaker 4: single year and continues to be a top five running 353 00:14:44,626 --> 00:14:45,866 Speaker 4: back of Fantasy. And he's just sitting there in the 354 00:14:45,866 --> 00:14:48,826 Speaker 4: second round now because he's old. It's age shaming, really, 355 00:14:49,546 --> 00:14:51,906 Speaker 4: fourteen ages, fourteenth. 356 00:14:51,506 --> 00:14:53,266 Speaker 1: Round starts rolling around, and it is now you can 357 00:14:53,306 --> 00:14:54,746 Speaker 1: take a little you already took a kicker. You already 358 00:14:54,786 --> 00:14:56,746 Speaker 1: tick your defense, you got maybe two more picks left 359 00:14:56,746 --> 00:14:58,506 Speaker 1: to go, and you want to take a rookie. I'm 360 00:14:58,506 --> 00:15:00,226 Speaker 1: gonna go around the horn. Craig will start with you 361 00:15:00,226 --> 00:15:02,346 Speaker 1: give me a rookie that might still be around then 362 00:15:02,386 --> 00:15:05,386 Speaker 1: that you're looking at. Maybe he's not the first or 363 00:15:05,386 --> 00:15:07,666 Speaker 1: second overall pick, but it's a guy that you've got 364 00:15:07,706 --> 00:15:08,146 Speaker 1: your eye on. 365 00:15:08,946 --> 00:15:12,706 Speaker 4: Interesting a rookie, can I go with? I think I 366 00:15:12,786 --> 00:15:14,586 Speaker 4: want to go with the tight end position here. I like, 367 00:15:14,626 --> 00:15:17,586 Speaker 4: I like, yeah, I like two guys. I like Luke Musgrave, 368 00:15:17,626 --> 00:15:20,226 Speaker 4: and I like uh yep, And I like Jake Ferguson, 369 00:15:20,226 --> 00:15:24,426 Speaker 4: Michael Mayer, Yeah yeah, Ferguson out of Okay and Ferguson, Oh, 370 00:15:24,546 --> 00:15:26,226 Speaker 4: Ferguson second year guy, Musgrave rookie. 371 00:15:26,226 --> 00:15:27,506 Speaker 3: I'll stick with you with mus. 372 00:15:27,306 --> 00:15:29,346 Speaker 1: Grave Ferguson's Cowboys, right he was second year guy? 373 00:15:29,386 --> 00:15:32,386 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, sticking with Muskrave. Then, uh. 374 00:15:32,426 --> 00:15:33,906 Speaker 4: When when you're getting a rookie tight end, they don't 375 00:15:33,906 --> 00:15:36,066 Speaker 4: typically work out. But what I like about Musgrave is, 376 00:15:36,146 --> 00:15:37,986 Speaker 4: unlike a lot of other tight ends, he's just playing receiver. 377 00:15:38,026 --> 00:15:39,506 Speaker 4: He doesn't have to learn the blocking half of the 378 00:15:39,906 --> 00:15:42,506 Speaker 4: of the of the offense. And I like guys much 379 00:15:42,546 --> 00:15:44,626 Speaker 4: like a Dalton Kincaid. We're gonna be split out and 380 00:15:44,666 --> 00:15:46,746 Speaker 4: are going to be running routes. And if you look 381 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:49,386 Speaker 4: at the Green Bay offense, I mean it's an entirely new, 382 00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:51,466 Speaker 4: young offense. There's not a lot of established guys. You 383 00:15:51,546 --> 00:15:55,066 Speaker 4: got Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, and you got Musgrave. So 384 00:15:55,346 --> 00:15:56,786 Speaker 4: if you're gonna take a shot, if you believe in 385 00:15:56,826 --> 00:15:59,386 Speaker 4: Jordan Love, who's looked great this offseason, offseason and in 386 00:15:59,426 --> 00:16:01,786 Speaker 4: the preseason, uh, Musgrave is a guy who could kind 387 00:16:01,786 --> 00:16:04,466 Speaker 4: of sneaky start his rookie year hot, kind of like 388 00:16:04,466 --> 00:16:05,306 Speaker 4: a Pat Friar move. 389 00:16:05,706 --> 00:16:07,426 Speaker 1: Okay, who you got rookie? 390 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:08,146 Speaker 3: He got your eyes. 391 00:16:08,266 --> 00:16:09,786 Speaker 6: Oh man, there's so many of them. I could just 392 00:16:09,826 --> 00:16:12,386 Speaker 6: go down the list. I'm going to shout out a 393 00:16:12,426 --> 00:16:15,986 Speaker 6: guy who's kind of gotten. People are not super excited 394 00:16:15,986 --> 00:16:18,386 Speaker 6: about him based on what happened in preseason Week one, 395 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,786 Speaker 6: and that's Devon a Chain for the Dolphins because he 396 00:16:21,906 --> 00:16:24,026 Speaker 6: was playing he was like fourth or fifth on the 397 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:26,266 Speaker 6: depth chart. In this game, he's playing into the fourth quarter. 398 00:16:26,306 --> 00:16:29,506 Speaker 6: Typically these are not great signs for rookie running backs. 399 00:16:29,906 --> 00:16:32,666 Speaker 6: But I will say, if you watch the games like 400 00:16:32,706 --> 00:16:35,546 Speaker 6: I did, like here a huge sicco and you watch 401 00:16:35,626 --> 00:16:39,146 Speaker 6: that game, he was running vertical routes. He caught four 402 00:16:39,186 --> 00:16:41,386 Speaker 6: passes for forty one yards. He actually led the Dolphins 403 00:16:41,386 --> 00:16:44,306 Speaker 6: in receiving this game. He caught a passed out of 404 00:16:44,346 --> 00:16:46,826 Speaker 6: the backfield up the like up the sideline for a 405 00:16:46,906 --> 00:16:49,186 Speaker 6: chunk gain. He caught a like a Texas route over 406 00:16:49,186 --> 00:16:51,426 Speaker 6: the middle of the field for like a ten yard gain. 407 00:16:51,506 --> 00:16:53,946 Speaker 6: He was being used in exactly the type of way 408 00:16:53,946 --> 00:16:56,946 Speaker 6: we want him to be used, which is vertical pass 409 00:16:57,026 --> 00:17:00,826 Speaker 6: catching role. And obviously, like Miles Gaskin's still there, they 410 00:17:00,866 --> 00:17:03,026 Speaker 6: still got Raheem Moster, Jeff Wilson. 411 00:17:03,306 --> 00:17:04,426 Speaker 7: He's got some hurdles to clear. 412 00:17:04,466 --> 00:17:06,586 Speaker 1: I think they don't have Dalvin Cook, which is a 413 00:17:06,586 --> 00:17:08,626 Speaker 1: good sign. They must have liked what they had in house. 414 00:17:08,866 --> 00:17:10,626 Speaker 6: I was a little nervous that Dalvin Cook was going 415 00:17:10,706 --> 00:17:12,586 Speaker 6: to come in and ruin my dreams. But even though 416 00:17:12,666 --> 00:17:15,106 Speaker 6: he was playing with like the fifth stringers into the 417 00:17:15,146 --> 00:17:19,386 Speaker 6: fourth quarter, I'm sticking with it. Devon ah Chain midway 418 00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:21,266 Speaker 6: through the year, I think he's going to start being 419 00:17:21,346 --> 00:17:24,426 Speaker 6: really really useful for them. And again he's being used 420 00:17:24,466 --> 00:17:25,946 Speaker 6: in the way that you want him to be used. 421 00:17:25,946 --> 00:17:28,906 Speaker 6: Which is as a pass catcher except Colladega speed baby, 422 00:17:28,986 --> 00:17:33,066 Speaker 6: So I just yeah, hot, nasty, badass speed and that's 423 00:17:33,106 --> 00:17:33,706 Speaker 6: what he's got. 424 00:17:33,746 --> 00:17:35,106 Speaker 7: So I just love this offense too. 425 00:17:35,186 --> 00:17:37,546 Speaker 1: It sounds so good coming out of your mouth, Danny, 426 00:17:37,786 --> 00:17:38,786 Speaker 1: what about you, my friend? 427 00:17:38,906 --> 00:17:42,386 Speaker 5: There's a rookie. I really love Jordan Addison, the rookie 428 00:17:42,386 --> 00:17:45,186 Speaker 5: receiver for the Vikings. I think that he has not 429 00:17:45,306 --> 00:17:48,066 Speaker 5: been going as high. He's basically like a top one 430 00:17:48,186 --> 00:17:50,346 Speaker 5: hundred player depending where you look, depending on the platform 431 00:17:50,426 --> 00:17:53,986 Speaker 5: or website, use eightieth, one hundredth, one hundred and fifth, 432 00:17:54,106 --> 00:17:56,946 Speaker 5: seventy fifth. It's a huge range. But I think he's 433 00:17:56,946 --> 00:18:00,066 Speaker 5: really underrated because I think as a pure regular NFL 434 00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:03,346 Speaker 5: prospect he's undersized. I get all that he's he's not 435 00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:06,906 Speaker 5: a prototypical number one receiver. I think think he's being 436 00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:10,866 Speaker 5: unfairly dinged for that in fantasy because Jordan Adison is 437 00:18:10,906 --> 00:18:14,586 Speaker 5: the perfect compliment to Justin Jefferson. It reminds me a 438 00:18:14,626 --> 00:18:19,106 Speaker 5: little bit of when Juju Smith Schuster had an incredible 439 00:18:19,146 --> 00:18:23,026 Speaker 5: rookie season behind Antonio Brown Calvin Ridley. I remember Julio 440 00:18:23,106 --> 00:18:25,386 Speaker 5: Jones was incredible for the Falcons, but he couldn't score touchdowns. 441 00:18:25,386 --> 00:18:27,106 Speaker 5: Calvin really comes in as a Rooie as like five 442 00:18:27,146 --> 00:18:30,466 Speaker 5: touchdowns in like five games by Julio Jones. I feel 443 00:18:30,466 --> 00:18:34,706 Speaker 5: that Jordan Addison will have that type of impact disproportionate 444 00:18:34,706 --> 00:18:37,386 Speaker 5: to his skill level because he's refined, he's a precise 445 00:18:37,466 --> 00:18:40,266 Speaker 5: route runner, He's polished in a way that makes up 446 00:18:40,266 --> 00:18:42,706 Speaker 5: for his lack of physical gifts. That will basically pay 447 00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:46,746 Speaker 5: dividends immediately, and I think he's gonna soak. I mean, 448 00:18:46,786 --> 00:18:48,786 Speaker 5: Adam Thielen, no offense to the guy was a little 449 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:51,306 Speaker 5: dusty last year, and I think Addison's going to come 450 00:18:51,306 --> 00:18:54,186 Speaker 5: in and just vacuum up behind Justin Jefferson. It's kind 451 00:18:54,226 --> 00:18:58,946 Speaker 5: of no, it's it's just an incredibly massive opportunity to 452 00:18:59,026 --> 00:19:00,906 Speaker 5: be around this guy. He's always doubled and I think 453 00:19:00,946 --> 00:19:01,826 Speaker 5: he's gonna just eat. 454 00:19:02,346 --> 00:19:03,426 Speaker 3: It's built for him. 455 00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:06,426 Speaker 7: Did you see his catch the other day? 456 00:19:06,426 --> 00:19:11,346 Speaker 6: He had like a touch catch. They didn't even review it. 457 00:19:11,586 --> 00:19:13,186 Speaker 6: They called him out, they didn't even review it, but 458 00:19:13,226 --> 00:19:16,666 Speaker 6: he made the most incredible catch that just it's the preseason. 459 00:19:16,666 --> 00:19:18,426 Speaker 6: That doesn't counts, it doesn't matter, but whatever it was, 460 00:19:18,546 --> 00:19:19,506 Speaker 6: it was an amazing catch. 461 00:19:19,786 --> 00:19:22,226 Speaker 5: Speaking of preseason, you ask how being a fantasy expert works. 462 00:19:22,226 --> 00:19:27,426 Speaker 5: Here's how it works, college statistics, preseason plays. If they 463 00:19:27,586 --> 00:19:30,946 Speaker 5: confirm what you already believe, they're very important and representative. 464 00:19:31,226 --> 00:19:33,386 Speaker 5: And if they don't, if they go against what you 465 00:19:33,426 --> 00:19:36,426 Speaker 5: already think, then they're meaningless. And Jordan Adison had sixteen 466 00:19:36,506 --> 00:19:39,226 Speaker 5: hundred yards in college two years ago and won the 467 00:19:39,226 --> 00:19:41,626 Speaker 5: Best Receiver in College Football award and then had that catch. 468 00:19:42,226 --> 00:19:43,786 Speaker 5: So there, I must already be right. 469 00:19:45,306 --> 00:19:47,186 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give all the Zay Flowers might be the 470 00:19:47,226 --> 00:19:48,986 Speaker 1: best wide receiver out of this bunch. It might do it. 471 00:19:49,226 --> 00:19:50,706 Speaker 1: I don't know if he gonna put up the best numbers, 472 00:19:50,706 --> 00:19:52,106 Speaker 1: and I don't know how this helps for fantasy. What 473 00:19:52,146 --> 00:19:55,266 Speaker 1: I'm learning from Zay Flowers is that he's unguardable because 474 00:19:55,266 --> 00:19:57,626 Speaker 1: of his footwork and speed, and he might just be 475 00:19:57,706 --> 00:20:00,026 Speaker 1: drawing a lot of pass interference calls. Honestly, that's what 476 00:20:00,026 --> 00:20:02,226 Speaker 1: I'm telling. So, like, if you're expecting one hundred catches, 477 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:04,066 Speaker 1: that might not be it, but he will be a 478 00:20:04,106 --> 00:20:06,466 Speaker 1: huge function of the Ravens offense. And I think I 479 00:20:06,506 --> 00:20:08,946 Speaker 1: see a lot of people drafting him really high. I 480 00:20:08,986 --> 00:20:10,546 Speaker 1: don't know if his numbers are going to be high. 481 00:20:10,546 --> 00:20:11,666 Speaker 1: I just know he's going to be a pain in 482 00:20:11,666 --> 00:20:13,626 Speaker 1: the ass to cover. And that's like one of those 483 00:20:13,666 --> 00:20:16,786 Speaker 1: things in fantasy where here's the arbitrage where yes, he 484 00:20:16,866 --> 00:20:18,706 Speaker 1: might be our offensive rookie of the year, but no, 485 00:20:18,906 --> 00:20:21,546 Speaker 1: his numbers might not be as crazy as Justin Jeffersons 486 00:20:21,626 --> 00:20:22,466 Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase's. 487 00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:25,026 Speaker 7: I like that one too. He's so good. 488 00:20:25,066 --> 00:20:27,226 Speaker 6: There's a reason a lot of people were comparing him 489 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,986 Speaker 6: to like Antonio Brown when you're when you're watching the tape, 490 00:20:29,986 --> 00:20:32,866 Speaker 6: like his feet are so fast, his route running so 491 00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:36,346 Speaker 6: sudden and twitchy. I agree with you, though, like I 492 00:20:36,346 --> 00:20:37,866 Speaker 6: don't know exactly what his role is going to be 493 00:20:37,866 --> 00:20:40,466 Speaker 6: like in that Ravens offense. We don't even know what 494 00:20:40,466 --> 00:20:42,026 Speaker 6: this Raven's offense is really don't know what it looks 495 00:20:42,066 --> 00:20:44,586 Speaker 6: like at all. So there's there's a lot of variants 496 00:20:44,586 --> 00:20:46,666 Speaker 6: put potential there. But yeah, he's a really good player, 497 00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:47,706 Speaker 6: all right. 498 00:20:47,826 --> 00:20:51,626 Speaker 1: Strategy wise, say I'm doing my fantasy draft. I know 499 00:20:51,666 --> 00:20:54,106 Speaker 1: which players are good, but every year it's different. Some 500 00:20:54,226 --> 00:20:55,786 Speaker 1: year it's like you have to get those two running 501 00:20:55,826 --> 00:20:58,386 Speaker 1: backs early because there's a big drop off. Some years 502 00:20:58,426 --> 00:21:01,026 Speaker 1: it's you need the wide receiver one because after the 503 00:21:01,026 --> 00:21:03,866 Speaker 1: first few of them it's a drop off. Craig, I 504 00:21:03,906 --> 00:21:06,386 Speaker 1: know you've been studying the grids and the cheat sheets. 505 00:21:07,426 --> 00:21:09,666 Speaker 1: What's the strategy this year is in the first round, 506 00:21:09,746 --> 00:21:12,466 Speaker 1: is it important to get what? And when you do 507 00:21:12,506 --> 00:21:14,266 Speaker 1: that snake draft? What are you trying to come out 508 00:21:14,266 --> 00:21:15,666 Speaker 1: of here? Because I know there's a drop off at 509 00:21:15,666 --> 00:21:16,986 Speaker 1: each position at some point. 510 00:21:17,226 --> 00:21:18,946 Speaker 4: So if you're playing in a league with one quarterback, 511 00:21:19,226 --> 00:21:22,186 Speaker 4: what we kind of like to do this year is 512 00:21:22,186 --> 00:21:25,506 Speaker 4: basically get an elite player from every single position group. 513 00:21:25,586 --> 00:21:27,866 Speaker 4: This year is a really unique year because running backs 514 00:21:27,866 --> 00:21:30,026 Speaker 4: are kind of going late, quarterbacks are hotter than ever, 515 00:21:30,426 --> 00:21:33,106 Speaker 4: and then you have Travis Kelcey, who's just miles away 516 00:21:33,106 --> 00:21:35,546 Speaker 4: from every other tight end. So we kind of suggest 517 00:21:35,586 --> 00:21:37,586 Speaker 4: is get one from each position. Start your draft with 518 00:21:37,626 --> 00:21:40,506 Speaker 4: the Travis kelce then move on get an elite running 519 00:21:40,506 --> 00:21:42,546 Speaker 4: back like a Dereck Henry. Third round, you can get 520 00:21:42,546 --> 00:21:45,506 Speaker 4: yourself an elite quarterback like Jalen Hurts or Patrick Mahomes, 521 00:21:45,586 --> 00:21:47,106 Speaker 4: and then you can still get a great receiver. If 522 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:49,586 Speaker 4: you can start your draft with four players four different positions, 523 00:21:49,626 --> 00:21:52,386 Speaker 4: like a DeAndre Hopkins DKs guy. You could start your 524 00:21:52,426 --> 00:21:57,026 Speaker 4: draft with Travis Kelcey, Dereck Henry Patrick, Mahomes, and DeAndre Hopkins. 525 00:21:57,106 --> 00:21:59,426 Speaker 4: You get four Hall of Famers in four rounds, as 526 00:21:59,426 --> 00:22:01,106 Speaker 4: long as you're not an age bias guy like all 527 00:22:01,146 --> 00:22:03,466 Speaker 4: those out there. But I kind of like mixing it 528 00:22:03,546 --> 00:22:07,186 Speaker 4: up spreading the wealth this year specifically, can't you agree? 529 00:22:07,226 --> 00:22:07,386 Speaker 3: Oh? 530 00:22:07,426 --> 00:22:10,986 Speaker 7: Yeah, totally. I really like this year's second round running backs. 531 00:22:11,066 --> 00:22:14,586 Speaker 6: So I personally believe grabbing a guy like Kelsey or 532 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:16,426 Speaker 6: one of the elite receivers in round one and then 533 00:22:16,426 --> 00:22:18,986 Speaker 6: getting a Pollard or Josh Jacobs in round two. I 534 00:22:18,986 --> 00:22:21,946 Speaker 6: think Jacobs has fallen because there's some uncertainty about whether 535 00:22:21,986 --> 00:22:22,906 Speaker 6: he's going to play. 536 00:22:23,066 --> 00:22:24,226 Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day he's probably 537 00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:24,706 Speaker 7: gonna play. 538 00:22:24,746 --> 00:22:26,226 Speaker 3: It'll be that so I think. 539 00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,866 Speaker 7: But Tony Pollard to me, is. 540 00:22:27,866 --> 00:22:29,986 Speaker 6: Like my favorite second round pick right now. I just 541 00:22:29,986 --> 00:22:32,506 Speaker 6: think he has through the roof potential. He's such a 542 00:22:32,506 --> 00:22:35,106 Speaker 6: good player, so explosive, and they're gonna use him in 543 00:22:35,106 --> 00:22:38,226 Speaker 6: the right way. He was already, you know, such an 544 00:22:38,426 --> 00:22:41,066 Speaker 6: elite producer last year when they had Zeken tout, and 545 00:22:41,066 --> 00:22:43,666 Speaker 6: now it's his his offense and his his backfield. So 546 00:22:44,106 --> 00:22:46,306 Speaker 6: to me, Tony Pollard is sort of a lynchpin guy 547 00:22:46,346 --> 00:22:47,706 Speaker 6: that I just really like in that second round. 548 00:22:47,746 --> 00:22:49,746 Speaker 1: So in the second round, Danny, what about you? 549 00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:52,266 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I agree with Danny Kelly where it's 550 00:22:52,346 --> 00:22:53,746 Speaker 5: kind of flipped. I feel like you used to take 551 00:22:53,746 --> 00:22:55,626 Speaker 5: your top running back in the first round and then 552 00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:57,746 Speaker 5: you get a great receiver in the second. Now it's 553 00:22:57,786 --> 00:22:59,866 Speaker 5: basically you can pretty much get an elite receiver in 554 00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:02,106 Speaker 5: the first round. You come back around Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs, 555 00:23:02,146 --> 00:23:04,706 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry, Nick Chubb, baby Sake one those guys used 556 00:23:04,706 --> 00:23:06,106 Speaker 5: to go in the first It's kind of like the 557 00:23:06,626 --> 00:23:09,466 Speaker 5: top twenty top twenty four, but now just the receivers 558 00:23:09,466 --> 00:23:11,986 Speaker 5: and running backs have flipped spots. That's like the simplest 559 00:23:11,986 --> 00:23:12,666 Speaker 5: way to explain it. 560 00:23:12,626 --> 00:23:15,586 Speaker 4: Because everybody realized that wide receivers exactly. You know, running 561 00:23:15,586 --> 00:23:17,106 Speaker 4: backs get hurt all the time, and you can you know, 562 00:23:17,186 --> 00:23:20,506 Speaker 4: you can depend right time. Justin Jefferson, your Tyree Kills, 563 00:23:20,506 --> 00:23:22,866 Speaker 4: your Jamar Chase is like, if you if you don't 564 00:23:22,866 --> 00:23:24,466 Speaker 4: want to lose your draft in the first round, you 565 00:23:24,466 --> 00:23:25,786 Speaker 4: take a wide receiver because you know, by the end 566 00:23:25,786 --> 00:23:27,306 Speaker 4: of the year, odds are one of the guys you 567 00:23:27,386 --> 00:23:28,986 Speaker 4: draft in the top five is probably gonna finish in 568 00:23:28,986 --> 00:23:29,506 Speaker 4: the top five. 569 00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:31,746 Speaker 1: Yeah. And what about quarterbacks. I know you said that 570 00:23:31,786 --> 00:23:34,146 Speaker 1: you want elite, Like, is it crazy to take Josh 571 00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:36,186 Speaker 1: Allen or Jalen Hurts in the first round this year? 572 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:41,586 Speaker 5: First? Yeah, second, first round. We start our rank you 573 00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:43,866 Speaker 5: have Fantasy Football doc threear dot com. We have our rankings. 574 00:23:43,906 --> 00:23:45,786 Speaker 5: We have a top two hundred of upsides downsts for 575 00:23:45,786 --> 00:23:46,306 Speaker 5: every player. 576 00:23:46,866 --> 00:23:46,946 Speaker 7: Uh. 577 00:23:47,066 --> 00:23:48,986 Speaker 5: And the bottom line and all these guys basically is 578 00:23:49,306 --> 00:23:51,346 Speaker 5: we have our quarterbacks right around the third round. Basically 579 00:23:51,386 --> 00:23:55,386 Speaker 5: we've got basically a couple dozen truly special players. It's 580 00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:57,586 Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey and a bunch of running backs, receivers, and 581 00:23:57,626 --> 00:24:01,426 Speaker 5: then at that point, as Craig said, locking those quarterbacks 582 00:24:01,466 --> 00:24:05,906 Speaker 5: where you're basically getting an elite floor. Jalen Hurts eighteen 583 00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:08,786 Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns in eighteen games last year, included the playoffs. 584 00:24:08,866 --> 00:24:11,666 Speaker 5: The floor, not just the ceiling, is crazy. Josh Allen 585 00:24:11,706 --> 00:24:13,066 Speaker 5: the running you know, he could lead the league in 586 00:24:13,146 --> 00:24:16,146 Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns or receiving or passing touchdowns. And Mahomes is 587 00:24:16,146 --> 00:24:18,986 Speaker 5: Mahomes And I think that at that point, elite floors 588 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:21,706 Speaker 5: in the first few rounds, and then after that you're 589 00:24:21,786 --> 00:24:25,746 Speaker 5: chasing elite ceilings. So if you miss out on Mahomes, Hurts, Allen, 590 00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:29,066 Speaker 5: Justin Fields, Lamar Jackson in this new offense is an 591 00:24:29,106 --> 00:24:32,306 Speaker 5: elite ceiling. Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert. Those guys have truly 592 00:24:32,306 --> 00:24:34,706 Speaker 5: elite potential. And I think that if you're stacking that 593 00:24:34,986 --> 00:24:37,826 Speaker 5: at quarterback, Darren Waller has an elite ceiling at tight end, 594 00:24:38,026 --> 00:24:40,146 Speaker 5: and I think that's you know, Scott Barrett has done 595 00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:42,626 Speaker 5: great stuff at a great website called Fantasy Points, where 596 00:24:42,866 --> 00:24:45,666 Speaker 5: elite ceilings win you your league, they win weeks, they win leagues. 597 00:24:45,706 --> 00:24:48,666 Speaker 5: And I think elite floors in the first three rounds 598 00:24:48,746 --> 00:24:50,826 Speaker 5: and then next making up where you didn't get it 599 00:24:51,106 --> 00:24:52,146 Speaker 5: with elite ceilings. 600 00:24:52,546 --> 00:24:55,146 Speaker 1: Where are you guys at d Kale started? Where are 601 00:24:55,146 --> 00:24:56,866 Speaker 1: you guys at with Kyle Pitts? I think everyone took 602 00:24:56,946 --> 00:24:58,866 Speaker 1: him in the first round or second round last year 603 00:24:58,946 --> 00:25:00,866 Speaker 1: and now like it's almost like, yeah, you wouldn't be 604 00:25:00,866 --> 00:25:02,826 Speaker 1: able to touch them, you know, it's like how could you? 605 00:25:03,346 --> 00:25:05,986 Speaker 6: I think at least for Craig and I think we 606 00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:08,026 Speaker 6: kind of hate him at this point, like nothing that 607 00:25:08,066 --> 00:25:10,626 Speaker 6: he's actually done personally that is his fault. 608 00:25:11,026 --> 00:25:11,626 Speaker 3: It's just is. 609 00:25:11,626 --> 00:25:13,586 Speaker 1: Someone else's problem. You have them. 610 00:25:13,586 --> 00:25:16,626 Speaker 7: I don't exactly. I'm just like washing my hands of 611 00:25:16,746 --> 00:25:17,786 Speaker 7: that toxic. 612 00:25:17,506 --> 00:25:18,986 Speaker 3: Relationship that I don't want to be a part of it. 613 00:25:19,026 --> 00:25:20,386 Speaker 6: I just don't want to have to deal. I don't 614 00:25:20,386 --> 00:25:22,226 Speaker 6: want to have to think about him anymore. He might 615 00:25:22,266 --> 00:25:23,666 Speaker 6: be the best tight end in the NFL. 616 00:25:24,466 --> 00:25:26,626 Speaker 1: Gotch Like I hope it for him, I don't. 617 00:25:27,386 --> 00:25:30,226 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's one of the best, one of 618 00:25:30,226 --> 00:25:30,986 Speaker 5: the best parts. 619 00:25:31,226 --> 00:25:33,986 Speaker 6: I'm unfriend I'm like unfriending him on Facebook so I 620 00:25:34,026 --> 00:25:35,186 Speaker 6: don't have to look at his feet. 621 00:25:35,226 --> 00:25:37,386 Speaker 5: You know this is like, yeah, you mentioned Facebook, I 622 00:25:37,426 --> 00:25:39,066 Speaker 5: got it. You know well, I think one of the 623 00:25:39,066 --> 00:25:41,706 Speaker 5: best most charming aspects of our, of the three of 624 00:25:41,786 --> 00:25:44,666 Speaker 5: us dynamic, is that DK, in his older wisdom, now 625 00:25:44,706 --> 00:25:47,106 Speaker 5: that he's in his forties, doesn't have the energy, doesn't 626 00:25:47,306 --> 00:25:50,466 Speaker 5: allow toxic people in his life, and doesn't Michael Thomas. 627 00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:54,266 Speaker 5: You know, Kyle fits people who just are kind of 628 00:25:54,306 --> 00:25:56,306 Speaker 5: a drain on your energy. DK, just like I don't, 629 00:25:56,386 --> 00:25:57,906 Speaker 5: I can't. I don't time for you anymore. 630 00:25:58,066 --> 00:26:04,706 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, quickly, I'm gonna go around you guys, 631 00:26:04,706 --> 00:26:06,346 Speaker 1: tell me yay or na. I'm gonna mention some things 632 00:26:06,426 --> 00:26:08,666 Speaker 1: about fantasy football. I'm gonna put you on the spot 633 00:26:09,066 --> 00:26:14,986 Speaker 1: Craig will start with you auction draft yay or nay? Yay, 634 00:26:15,146 --> 00:26:17,666 Speaker 1: you gotta do it, explain, make the case for why 635 00:26:17,706 --> 00:26:20,346 Speaker 1: someone should just scrap the old snake draft. That takes 636 00:26:20,426 --> 00:26:22,346 Speaker 1: one minute and is you know, easy enough to do 637 00:26:22,506 --> 00:26:24,866 Speaker 1: to go to the auction thing which seems unbearable. 638 00:26:25,866 --> 00:26:28,506 Speaker 4: Let's say Justin Jefferson's your favorite player in fantasy football, 639 00:26:28,626 --> 00:26:30,546 Speaker 4: and then you're eagerly awaiting what draft pick you're going 640 00:26:30,586 --> 00:26:32,306 Speaker 4: to get. You're praying you get the first or second pick, 641 00:26:32,346 --> 00:26:34,586 Speaker 4: and then the hat, the name gets drawn out of 642 00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:36,546 Speaker 4: the hat and you have the tenth that terrible feeling 643 00:26:36,626 --> 00:26:38,186 Speaker 4: of well, I guess I want to have Justin Jefferson 644 00:26:38,186 --> 00:26:40,226 Speaker 4: this year. That doesn't happen. In an auction draft. You 645 00:26:40,226 --> 00:26:41,786 Speaker 4: can spend your money on any player you want. You 646 00:26:41,826 --> 00:26:44,306 Speaker 4: can get Justin Jefferson and Christian mcaffor you want. It's 647 00:26:44,306 --> 00:26:47,506 Speaker 4: a lot more flexibility every single every single pick you 648 00:26:47,546 --> 00:26:48,266 Speaker 4: are involved in. 649 00:26:48,386 --> 00:26:50,026 Speaker 3: I love it, okay, DK. 650 00:26:50,906 --> 00:26:53,866 Speaker 1: Individual defensive players are we yay or nay? 651 00:26:55,706 --> 00:26:57,146 Speaker 7: I've been a nay on that one. 652 00:26:57,306 --> 00:27:00,186 Speaker 6: I just it's hard enough, like keeping track of all 653 00:27:00,306 --> 00:27:01,146 Speaker 6: offensive players. 654 00:27:01,386 --> 00:27:02,706 Speaker 7: I don't know, like adding all that. 655 00:27:02,666 --> 00:27:04,506 Speaker 6: To to the to the plate is a bit much 656 00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:06,106 Speaker 6: for me. I just I don't track it enough and 657 00:27:06,146 --> 00:27:08,066 Speaker 6: I've ever really done it. I'm an old I'm an 658 00:27:08,106 --> 00:27:09,706 Speaker 6: old guy. Can't teach me new tricks. 659 00:27:09,706 --> 00:27:10,226 Speaker 7: I don't really know. 660 00:27:10,266 --> 00:27:11,106 Speaker 3: I'm not into Danny. 661 00:27:11,146 --> 00:27:15,026 Speaker 1: Two quarterback leagues where there's two quarterbacks starting in yay. 662 00:27:14,946 --> 00:27:17,626 Speaker 5: Or nay, I'm totally in. At the end of the day, 663 00:27:17,706 --> 00:27:20,146 Speaker 5: It's very, very silly to me that in real life 664 00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:23,066 Speaker 5: running backs can't get paid, and like, you know, Jonathan 665 00:27:23,106 --> 00:27:25,346 Speaker 5: Taylor isn't getting a contract, Will Jim er Say's trying 666 00:27:25,346 --> 00:27:27,626 Speaker 5: to fly in Orca to see world for twenty million dollars. 667 00:27:27,746 --> 00:27:30,026 Speaker 5: But in fantasy we have running back like ten twelve 668 00:27:30,066 --> 00:27:32,426 Speaker 5: running backs come off the board for Patrick Mahomes And 669 00:27:32,426 --> 00:27:35,106 Speaker 5: at two quarterback league, you know the first Pixar Patrick Mahomes, 670 00:27:35,146 --> 00:27:37,106 Speaker 5: Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts. That's real life. So I like 671 00:27:37,146 --> 00:27:38,026 Speaker 5: two quarterback leagues. 672 00:27:38,706 --> 00:27:43,866 Speaker 1: I love that. Craig ten team leagues, Yeah or nay. 673 00:27:43,906 --> 00:27:44,706 Speaker 1: It seems very light. 674 00:27:45,626 --> 00:27:48,146 Speaker 4: That's as light as well go. Eight is ridiculous. Ten 675 00:27:48,826 --> 00:27:50,786 Speaker 4: is where I draw the line. Ten is okay, twelve 676 00:27:50,826 --> 00:27:52,746 Speaker 4: is ideal, fourteen is fine, sixteen is too. 677 00:27:52,666 --> 00:27:58,746 Speaker 1: Big, okay, DK non PPR leagues where we don't keep 678 00:27:58,866 --> 00:28:00,146 Speaker 1: track of receptions. 679 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:01,586 Speaker 3: We just do yards. 680 00:28:02,666 --> 00:28:06,746 Speaker 6: Strongly against Yeah, archaics totally here. 681 00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:10,586 Speaker 3: All right, if you're into that, I hate. 682 00:28:10,346 --> 00:28:10,706 Speaker 5: You, Danny. 683 00:28:10,746 --> 00:28:13,146 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you one that my league that is 684 00:28:13,186 --> 00:28:14,986 Speaker 1: a bit of part of for twenty three years. We 685 00:28:15,066 --> 00:28:17,546 Speaker 1: don't do flex. We don't believe in it. We think 686 00:28:17,586 --> 00:28:21,506 Speaker 1: it's silly. There's no such thing flex, Danny hiex flex position, 687 00:28:21,546 --> 00:28:23,586 Speaker 1: which seems like such a bailout. Yeah, r nay. 688 00:28:24,026 --> 00:28:25,146 Speaker 5: I love no flex. 689 00:28:25,186 --> 00:28:26,866 Speaker 3: We leading the witness. 690 00:28:27,946 --> 00:28:28,866 Speaker 1: What is flex? 691 00:28:29,066 --> 00:28:29,506 Speaker 6: I love it. 692 00:28:29,706 --> 00:28:33,426 Speaker 5: It's the dumbest This is a great take. It's like, 693 00:28:33,466 --> 00:28:34,666 Speaker 5: be decisive. Who are you? 694 00:28:34,706 --> 00:28:36,106 Speaker 3: Never know what flex would be good for? 695 00:28:36,186 --> 00:28:38,066 Speaker 5: Flex should be like the four players who are like 696 00:28:38,106 --> 00:28:40,706 Speaker 5: quarter old Patterson can plain in the flex. That's it. 697 00:28:40,786 --> 00:28:42,906 Speaker 3: Sure, the actual. 698 00:28:44,066 --> 00:28:47,866 Speaker 1: Patterson, Taysom Hill, and Jamier Gibbs can be flex. I 699 00:28:47,906 --> 00:28:50,386 Speaker 1: hate the flex. I never heard of the flex until 700 00:28:50,426 --> 00:28:51,946 Speaker 1: like I came on a Good Morning Football and I 701 00:28:51,986 --> 00:28:53,346 Speaker 1: come on hearing the word flex. But what the heck 702 00:28:53,386 --> 00:28:55,186 Speaker 1: is flex? They're like, well, it could be any position. 703 00:28:55,186 --> 00:28:58,066 Speaker 1: It's take a wildcard, Like, well, that's not real. It's 704 00:28:58,146 --> 00:28:58,906 Speaker 1: the dumbest thing. 705 00:28:59,026 --> 00:29:00,746 Speaker 7: I love this flex, all right. 706 00:29:00,866 --> 00:29:05,786 Speaker 1: Team defenses counting, Craig, Yeah, your nay, I go back 707 00:29:05,826 --> 00:29:06,306 Speaker 1: and forth. 708 00:29:06,506 --> 00:29:07,226 Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. 709 00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:09,906 Speaker 4: I prefer a team defense over a kicker, So if 710 00:29:09,946 --> 00:29:11,186 Speaker 4: I had to choose, I'd take the defense. 711 00:29:11,306 --> 00:29:14,146 Speaker 1: Fun the route for a defense, Okay, DK, I'll ask 712 00:29:14,186 --> 00:29:17,546 Speaker 1: you counting every little thing, like a two point conversion 713 00:29:17,586 --> 00:29:21,706 Speaker 1: has a metric, or a batted down pass has a metric. 714 00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:24,506 Speaker 1: Like at some point there's got to be a limited the. 715 00:29:24,466 --> 00:29:26,826 Speaker 3: Forty yard completion bones, Yes, I hate that. 716 00:29:27,146 --> 00:29:27,986 Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, I'm judging. 717 00:29:28,466 --> 00:29:29,386 Speaker 7: I was going to bring that up. 718 00:29:29,426 --> 00:29:31,946 Speaker 6: No, I was gonna say the like you get a 719 00:29:31,946 --> 00:29:34,226 Speaker 6: bonus for having one hundred yards. This is I've played 720 00:29:34,226 --> 00:29:35,786 Speaker 6: in a few leagues where like a running back, if you. 721 00:29:35,746 --> 00:29:37,906 Speaker 7: Gets one hundred yards gets a bonus. I think there's a. 722 00:29:38,186 --> 00:29:40,066 Speaker 6: Time and a place for it for my home league, 723 00:29:40,106 --> 00:29:42,306 Speaker 6: for like most of my leagues, I don't really want that. 724 00:29:42,466 --> 00:29:44,546 Speaker 6: I do think it's fun to like sprinkle that in 725 00:29:44,626 --> 00:29:45,866 Speaker 6: every once in a while if you're like in a 726 00:29:45,906 --> 00:29:49,306 Speaker 6: tournament or something like that. But generally speaking, I like 727 00:29:49,426 --> 00:29:51,546 Speaker 6: pretty standard scoring setting that DK. 728 00:29:52,186 --> 00:29:54,706 Speaker 4: How many of your twenty three leagues are do you 729 00:29:54,786 --> 00:29:56,066 Speaker 4: use the one hundred yard. 730 00:29:55,946 --> 00:30:00,426 Speaker 6: Bonus probably none, right now, Okay, I would say I'm 731 00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:02,546 Speaker 6: open to it in like one or two leagues, just 732 00:30:02,586 --> 00:30:03,386 Speaker 6: because to. 733 00:30:03,346 --> 00:30:04,346 Speaker 7: Mix it up and make it fun. 734 00:30:04,426 --> 00:30:07,546 Speaker 1: All right, DK, I'm gonna go back on that one 735 00:30:07,546 --> 00:30:09,466 Speaker 1: with you. I just heard twenty three leagues. I know 736 00:30:09,506 --> 00:30:10,306 Speaker 1: it's being sarcastic. 737 00:30:11,666 --> 00:30:12,986 Speaker 5: He actually is in twenty three weeks. 738 00:30:13,066 --> 00:30:14,426 Speaker 3: Actually he's in twenty two. 739 00:30:14,746 --> 00:30:19,866 Speaker 5: Pandemics like Sanity Project was just drafting Dynasty Fantasy not fun. 740 00:30:19,906 --> 00:30:20,466 Speaker 1: It's not fun. 741 00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:22,906 Speaker 5: It's fully talking about it. 742 00:30:23,866 --> 00:30:25,866 Speaker 1: Fun about that, And the whole point of it is 743 00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:28,306 Speaker 1: you have a player in the league I found, and 744 00:30:28,346 --> 00:30:30,146 Speaker 1: you're rooting against every player in the league. 745 00:30:30,586 --> 00:30:32,586 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean I have so many I have 746 00:30:32,626 --> 00:30:34,586 Speaker 6: so many players on my teams that I'm like. 747 00:30:34,666 --> 00:30:36,946 Speaker 1: But in your head, which team is which? I feel 748 00:30:36,986 --> 00:30:38,506 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't know who to root for. 749 00:30:39,626 --> 00:30:42,946 Speaker 6: No, So you just I will say, here's the qualifier. 750 00:30:42,986 --> 00:30:45,746 Speaker 6: Here's the qualifier. Ninety five for cent of my teams 751 00:30:45,746 --> 00:30:49,266 Speaker 6: are dynasty leagues. So it's not day to day stuff 752 00:30:49,266 --> 00:30:50,746 Speaker 6: that you're doing. There's not a bunch of guys in 753 00:30:50,786 --> 00:30:53,546 Speaker 6: the waiver wire. Typically it's like you draft a team 754 00:30:53,626 --> 00:30:55,986 Speaker 6: and you develop it over years, but you're not It's 755 00:30:55,986 --> 00:30:58,426 Speaker 6: not like I'm spending a lot of time on this roster. 756 00:30:58,546 --> 00:30:59,666 Speaker 7: Can I day out you know what I mean? 757 00:30:59,666 --> 00:31:01,546 Speaker 4: Can I unveil a hot take on you guys right now? 758 00:31:01,666 --> 00:31:01,946 Speaker 1: Yes? 759 00:31:03,146 --> 00:31:06,386 Speaker 3: I'm out on dynasty leagues? Me too, Boom. 760 00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:09,706 Speaker 4: You know what the best part about fantasy football is 761 00:31:09,746 --> 00:31:10,386 Speaker 4: the draft. 762 00:31:10,466 --> 00:31:13,106 Speaker 6: Craig, You're in my dynasty league and time on it. 763 00:31:13,226 --> 00:31:14,106 Speaker 3: He's playing it. 764 00:31:14,146 --> 00:31:14,906 Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. 765 00:31:15,626 --> 00:31:16,066 Speaker 3: Oh cool? 766 00:31:16,626 --> 00:31:18,946 Speaker 4: I get to draft a fourth round run with you. 767 00:31:20,026 --> 00:31:21,786 Speaker 1: I get this question all the time. Should I keep 768 00:31:21,826 --> 00:31:23,706 Speaker 1: two out of these seven players? I don't know? Draft 769 00:31:23,706 --> 00:31:24,906 Speaker 1: a new team. I don't like it. 770 00:31:25,626 --> 00:31:26,426 Speaker 3: Draft a new team. 771 00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:28,546 Speaker 4: I don't want to be parsing through six round rookies 772 00:31:28,586 --> 00:31:29,746 Speaker 4: to figure out who has value. 773 00:31:29,746 --> 00:31:32,226 Speaker 3: That sounds terrible. You know. I want to draft Patrick Mahomes. 774 00:31:32,226 --> 00:31:33,786 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 775 00:31:33,866 --> 00:31:36,066 Speaker 3: That's fun, Danny, Danny high Fetz. 776 00:31:37,386 --> 00:31:41,946 Speaker 1: People who draft in person versus people who draft online, 777 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,146 Speaker 1: and the rift there of the arrogance and I'm an 778 00:31:44,146 --> 00:31:46,386 Speaker 1: on person guy, of those who roll their eyes at 779 00:31:46,386 --> 00:31:48,586 Speaker 1: those who are in a Yahoo Yahoo draft room and 780 00:31:48,626 --> 00:31:50,026 Speaker 1: consider that a fantasy league go on? 781 00:31:50,986 --> 00:31:51,426 Speaker 7: All right? 782 00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:53,746 Speaker 5: So this is this gets to what we were saying 783 00:31:53,746 --> 00:31:56,946 Speaker 5: earlier about like fantasy football is about keeping in touch 784 00:31:56,946 --> 00:31:59,386 Speaker 5: with your friends people different places. Obviously can't control that. 785 00:31:59,506 --> 00:32:01,666 Speaker 5: You always want to draft in person if you can. 786 00:32:01,906 --> 00:32:03,866 Speaker 5: If it's your friend group, you want to be in person. 787 00:32:04,026 --> 00:32:05,786 Speaker 5: It's incredible. At the very least, though, you have to 788 00:32:05,826 --> 00:32:08,266 Speaker 5: show up for the dre You can't auto draft. Got 789 00:32:08,346 --> 00:32:11,706 Speaker 5: auto draft? Is it? Look? If you have children, you 790 00:32:11,746 --> 00:32:14,266 Speaker 5: too understand. It's better than me. We can talk wedding. 791 00:32:14,426 --> 00:32:17,026 Speaker 5: Otherwise it's weddings and funerals. Or you better be there, 792 00:32:17,106 --> 00:32:18,306 Speaker 5: even even. 793 00:32:18,106 --> 00:32:21,186 Speaker 1: If it's on zoom. That's okay. You just can't auto draft. 794 00:32:21,226 --> 00:32:23,146 Speaker 1: That's unaccepted. It's un America, I think. 795 00:32:23,306 --> 00:32:23,666 Speaker 3: Correct. 796 00:32:23,746 --> 00:32:26,906 Speaker 1: No, the hardest part of any league, and you know 797 00:32:27,026 --> 00:32:29,226 Speaker 1: now we're just going off because I got so many thoughts. 798 00:32:29,426 --> 00:32:31,906 Speaker 1: The hardest part of any any league is finding a 799 00:32:32,026 --> 00:32:35,146 Speaker 1: draft time that works for everyone. If you get one 800 00:32:35,146 --> 00:32:37,946 Speaker 1: of those Google doodles going and everyone you come up 801 00:32:37,986 --> 00:32:39,946 Speaker 1: with one time, I don't care if it's five o'clock 802 00:32:39,986 --> 00:32:42,706 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, you better not the day of say 803 00:32:42,746 --> 00:32:44,306 Speaker 1: I just can't make it. That's unacceptable. 804 00:32:44,346 --> 00:32:44,626 Speaker 5: You're out. 805 00:32:44,666 --> 00:32:46,106 Speaker 1: You're out. We will find a replacement. 806 00:32:46,426 --> 00:32:49,586 Speaker 4: The two people can also pay your league dues before 807 00:32:49,586 --> 00:32:51,746 Speaker 4: the draft. If you're a commissioner of a league, require 808 00:32:51,786 --> 00:32:53,946 Speaker 4: everyone to pay their league dues or they can not trist. 809 00:32:53,746 --> 00:32:55,386 Speaker 1: Is that a thing people pay the league? Do you 810 00:32:55,386 --> 00:32:58,386 Speaker 1: get to chase them down for the for the vendors. 811 00:32:57,826 --> 00:33:00,266 Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta go hire like a fixer. I gotta 812 00:33:00,266 --> 00:33:01,986 Speaker 4: go hire Ray Donovan to go get the money from 813 00:33:01,986 --> 00:33:02,346 Speaker 4: this guy. 814 00:33:03,986 --> 00:33:05,066 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always one of them. 815 00:33:05,346 --> 00:33:08,146 Speaker 5: There are two people I hate in a fantasy league. 816 00:33:08,346 --> 00:33:10,026 Speaker 5: I feel like Austin Powers and I'm like, there's two 817 00:33:10,106 --> 00:33:11,626 Speaker 5: kinds of people I hate in this world. Yeah, but 818 00:33:12,226 --> 00:33:15,186 Speaker 5: what the people who don't fill out that doodle, as 819 00:33:15,186 --> 00:33:17,586 Speaker 5: you were saying, and then at the end, once like 820 00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:19,746 Speaker 5: nine people can make it, you're like, oh, that day 821 00:33:19,746 --> 00:33:22,226 Speaker 5: doesn't work for me. My mother's visiting, And I'm like, dude, 822 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:24,586 Speaker 5: that's what we made the doodle for. The Other one 823 00:33:24,626 --> 00:33:27,546 Speaker 5: is the people who think that they get to veto 824 00:33:27,666 --> 00:33:31,866 Speaker 5: other people's trades just grinds my gears. Like in real life, 825 00:33:31,946 --> 00:33:33,426 Speaker 5: where I don't know if you've noticed, there's a lot 826 00:33:33,466 --> 00:33:36,346 Speaker 5: more stakes to the real life sports leagues. There's been 827 00:33:36,386 --> 00:33:39,586 Speaker 5: one vetoed trade in our lifetime, and it was the 828 00:33:39,666 --> 00:33:42,626 Speaker 5: Chris Paul trade because the NBA owned the league. Office 829 00:33:42,706 --> 00:33:44,546 Speaker 5: owned the team and they were like, all right, this 830 00:33:44,626 --> 00:33:47,946 Speaker 5: is weird. Literally, like thousands of real life trades have 831 00:33:47,986 --> 00:33:50,266 Speaker 5: been made. They all go through this is America. You 832 00:33:50,306 --> 00:33:52,386 Speaker 5: have the right to be stupid and make dumb decisions. 833 00:33:52,426 --> 00:33:54,666 Speaker 5: It's not your job to run other people's stuff it. 834 00:33:54,786 --> 00:33:58,386 Speaker 1: I love it real quick. There's a whole craze in 835 00:33:58,386 --> 00:34:01,786 Speaker 1: the last ten years of like punishments and making it 836 00:34:01,826 --> 00:34:04,706 Speaker 1: go viral. And this guy ate a waffle every day, 837 00:34:04,786 --> 00:34:06,786 Speaker 1: every hour for twenty four hours. This guy I had 838 00:34:06,786 --> 00:34:08,906 Speaker 1: to poop in a sandwich and eat it and we 839 00:34:08,946 --> 00:34:12,586 Speaker 1: all laughed and we put it on YouTube too. Sophomore 840 00:34:12,866 --> 00:34:15,586 Speaker 1: silly or you guys all for this craig, We'll start with. 841 00:34:15,546 --> 00:34:17,306 Speaker 4: You if you're coming to me. 842 00:34:17,346 --> 00:34:21,586 Speaker 3: It's definitely not too sophomore. I don't know how other 843 00:34:21,626 --> 00:34:23,666 Speaker 3: people feel, but I'm all for it. 844 00:34:23,706 --> 00:34:25,786 Speaker 4: In our league right now, are the current rule is 845 00:34:25,826 --> 00:34:28,906 Speaker 4: we have the loser on the trip next year. He's 846 00:34:28,906 --> 00:34:32,546 Speaker 4: our butler and he has to wear a outfit hell 847 00:34:32,746 --> 00:34:35,146 Speaker 4: the whole weekend. He like serves us food and he 848 00:34:35,186 --> 00:34:38,106 Speaker 4: gets the worst bed. And I'm all for it, you know. 849 00:34:38,186 --> 00:34:40,466 Speaker 4: And we've actually employed a last place tournament at the 850 00:34:40,506 --> 00:34:42,106 Speaker 4: end of the year for all the guys whose teams 851 00:34:42,146 --> 00:34:44,746 Speaker 4: suck in like weeks twelve through seventeen, we have a 852 00:34:44,826 --> 00:34:47,226 Speaker 4: last place tournament to determine who gets last. So I 853 00:34:47,266 --> 00:34:49,666 Speaker 4: think last place is just as fun and as first 854 00:34:49,706 --> 00:34:52,306 Speaker 4: place in terms of end of year suspense. 855 00:34:52,706 --> 00:34:54,986 Speaker 1: DK, what's the craziest thing you've heard in that regard? 856 00:34:55,026 --> 00:34:57,866 Speaker 1: I mean they come up every year, they're more and more. 857 00:34:58,986 --> 00:35:02,426 Speaker 6: Man there's I had a couple of friends who under 858 00:35:02,426 --> 00:35:06,186 Speaker 6: their leagues, they're like punishment for last place was yet 859 00:35:06,226 --> 00:35:08,666 Speaker 6: the to go like be a busker on like a 860 00:35:08,746 --> 00:35:11,706 Speaker 6: sidewalk and like play music and and try and get 861 00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:15,986 Speaker 6: tips and things like like what's a busker is like 862 00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:18,426 Speaker 6: when you're like you're on the corner, like playing like 863 00:35:18,546 --> 00:35:19,826 Speaker 6: music and like try to make. 864 00:35:19,746 --> 00:35:27,666 Speaker 3: Money that way. The open guitar, I want to. 865 00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,066 Speaker 6: I want to tell you one great I want to 866 00:35:29,106 --> 00:35:30,826 Speaker 6: tell you one great rule that we have in in 867 00:35:30,826 --> 00:35:33,186 Speaker 6: one of my leagues is if you get a zero 868 00:35:33,826 --> 00:35:36,906 Speaker 6: in any of your spots in any given week, you 869 00:35:37,586 --> 00:35:38,426 Speaker 6: like a player. 870 00:35:38,546 --> 00:35:41,306 Speaker 1: Like a guy got to help change your lineup? 871 00:35:41,506 --> 00:35:44,786 Speaker 6: Yeah, goose egg. Yeah you have to shot. You have 872 00:35:44,826 --> 00:35:47,066 Speaker 6: to record yourself shotgunning a beer and send it to 873 00:35:47,106 --> 00:35:49,306 Speaker 6: the rest of the league, and that I think is 874 00:35:49,346 --> 00:35:50,986 Speaker 6: one of the more fun rules. 875 00:35:50,666 --> 00:35:51,906 Speaker 7: That I have in any of my links. 876 00:35:52,346 --> 00:35:55,346 Speaker 1: Like it, Danny yourself, the craziest thing you've. 877 00:35:55,186 --> 00:35:57,586 Speaker 5: Heard, there's some I mean the craziest stuff is there 878 00:35:57,626 --> 00:35:59,426 Speaker 5: are people who there are leagues that you have to 879 00:35:59,426 --> 00:36:01,826 Speaker 5: get it to too. I mean, that's crazy that. That 880 00:36:01,906 --> 00:36:03,746 Speaker 5: to me is the wildest, the wildest one we do. 881 00:36:03,866 --> 00:36:05,986 Speaker 5: The one that I think works the best, and even 882 00:36:06,066 --> 00:36:07,866 Speaker 5: as you get is our league gets a beer mile 883 00:36:08,106 --> 00:36:11,346 Speaker 5: because we Thanksgiving, there's always a We do a flag 884 00:36:11,346 --> 00:36:14,026 Speaker 5: football game on Black Friday. And it's funny because as 885 00:36:14,026 --> 00:36:16,546 Speaker 5: everyone gets older, the game gets earlier and people show 886 00:36:16,586 --> 00:36:18,506 Speaker 5: up with more knee braces and everyone's stretching more and 887 00:36:18,506 --> 00:36:21,506 Speaker 5: more of a year. But then at the end, thy brother, yes, wait, 888 00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:23,266 Speaker 5: at the end of the game, though, we do the 889 00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:25,866 Speaker 5: beer mile, which is great because there's like me who's 890 00:36:25,906 --> 00:36:27,346 Speaker 5: not the most fleet to foot, but I can drink 891 00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:29,226 Speaker 5: a beer versus like this guy who ran a four 892 00:36:29,226 --> 00:36:31,346 Speaker 5: and a half minute mile in college but like can't 893 00:36:31,466 --> 00:36:33,986 Speaker 5: chug and like, all right, this is actually even now. 894 00:36:34,306 --> 00:36:34,786 Speaker 1: That's good. 895 00:36:35,226 --> 00:36:35,666 Speaker 3: I like that. 896 00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:38,586 Speaker 1: Craig correct me if I'm wrong. Bill Simmons is league 897 00:36:38,626 --> 00:36:43,346 Speaker 1: and they always talk about the Shakey's League. Yeah, the 898 00:36:43,386 --> 00:36:46,546 Speaker 1: winner gets to vote off any person in the league 899 00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:47,986 Speaker 1: and they have to miss a year. Right, I think 900 00:36:47,986 --> 00:36:48,946 Speaker 1: that's pretty drastic. 901 00:36:49,026 --> 00:36:50,066 Speaker 5: This is the funniest one. 902 00:36:50,146 --> 00:36:52,706 Speaker 4: Yes, so it's a twelve it's a twelve team league, 903 00:36:52,706 --> 00:36:56,306 Speaker 4: but there's but there's thirteen members and every year, thirteen 904 00:36:56,386 --> 00:36:58,906 Speaker 4: people have to show up to the draft and the 905 00:36:58,906 --> 00:37:01,746 Speaker 4: previous year's winner then sits down like a dictator and 906 00:37:01,786 --> 00:37:04,146 Speaker 4: goes you you're out, and they have to get up 907 00:37:04,186 --> 00:37:05,466 Speaker 4: and leave the draft. 908 00:37:05,506 --> 00:37:07,706 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I guess it was during the pandemic 909 00:37:07,706 --> 00:37:09,786 Speaker 1: and I was listening to Simmons a lot, like twenty 910 00:37:09,826 --> 00:37:12,026 Speaker 1: twenty maybe twenty twenty one, and I think there was 911 00:37:12,066 --> 00:37:14,786 Speaker 1: real friction between him and Sal over it. It felt like, 912 00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:18,386 Speaker 1: oh there was salout and Sal was very angry. 913 00:37:19,466 --> 00:37:19,946 Speaker 3: Bill. 914 00:37:19,946 --> 00:37:21,986 Speaker 4: Well, when Bill got voted out one year, he started 915 00:37:21,986 --> 00:37:22,626 Speaker 4: a new league. 916 00:37:22,746 --> 00:37:26,506 Speaker 3: Bill was. 917 00:37:27,586 --> 00:37:29,506 Speaker 5: I'm not just saying this because you know, we worked 918 00:37:29,546 --> 00:37:32,106 Speaker 5: for Bill Simmons. I think I actually think Sal must 919 00:37:32,106 --> 00:37:33,866 Speaker 5: have come up with that. I think that is the 920 00:37:34,066 --> 00:37:36,306 Speaker 5: that is the rule that I actually think it is 921 00:37:36,346 --> 00:37:39,146 Speaker 5: the best. It is incredible, it's. 922 00:37:38,986 --> 00:37:41,946 Speaker 1: So good, and they, yeah, that's great. All right, guys, 923 00:37:41,946 --> 00:37:46,026 Speaker 1: we're wrapping. Uh, fantasy football is on the way. Where 924 00:37:46,026 --> 00:37:49,386 Speaker 1: can we find the podcast? And what is it called? 925 00:37:49,426 --> 00:37:51,106 Speaker 1: Craig for everyone who listens to this one and wants 926 00:37:51,146 --> 00:37:53,986 Speaker 1: their hardcore football news but had a draft this weekend 927 00:37:53,986 --> 00:37:55,626 Speaker 1: and is like, wait a second, my pants are not 928 00:37:55,706 --> 00:37:57,986 Speaker 1: ready for this. I need to get ready. Where would 929 00:37:58,026 --> 00:37:58,546 Speaker 1: you go for it? 930 00:37:59,026 --> 00:37:59,266 Speaker 3: Yeah? 931 00:37:59,306 --> 00:38:01,466 Speaker 4: Sure, the show is called The Ringer Fantasy Football Show. 932 00:38:01,466 --> 00:38:04,626 Speaker 4: It's anywhere you can find podcast. We prefer Spotify. There's 933 00:38:04,666 --> 00:38:07,266 Speaker 4: a lot of fun features on there. You can look 934 00:38:07,266 --> 00:38:09,586 Speaker 4: at our guide while you listen. But yeah, The Ringer 935 00:38:09,626 --> 00:38:11,706 Speaker 4: Fantasy Football Show with us three three days a week 936 00:38:11,746 --> 00:38:13,186 Speaker 4: and four days a week during the season. 937 00:38:13,386 --> 00:38:16,266 Speaker 1: I wish you guys well for Danny Hifetz, Danny Kelly, 938 00:38:16,306 --> 00:38:18,466 Speaker 1: Craig horlback, guys, this is awesome. We really appreciate you 939 00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:19,346 Speaker 1: coming on. This is great. 940 00:38:19,386 --> 00:38:20,586 Speaker 7: Thanks Pete, love you, Shregs. 941 00:38:20,626 --> 00:38:21,386 Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. 942 00:38:21,626 --> 00:38:23,986 Speaker 1: I love those guys. I think they're cool, they're funny, 943 00:38:24,066 --> 00:38:26,306 Speaker 1: and they've got a great friendship that you can tell. 944 00:38:26,666 --> 00:38:29,266 Speaker 1: And that's the key to any show or podcast, And 945 00:38:29,706 --> 00:38:32,386 Speaker 1: obviously fantasy football is the thread that keeps them all 946 00:38:32,426 --> 00:38:34,746 Speaker 1: together and going with the pod. But Their podcast talks 947 00:38:34,786 --> 00:38:38,426 Speaker 1: about all different sorts of topics, including movies. Aaron, I'm 948 00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:43,026 Speaker 1: going to tell you in nineteen ninety nine, I was 949 00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:47,186 Speaker 1: in a fantasy football league with my friends from high 950 00:38:47,266 --> 00:38:50,866 Speaker 1: school at the time, and I signed after week one 951 00:38:51,826 --> 00:38:56,066 Speaker 1: a gentleman named Kurt Warner, and I went on to 952 00:38:56,186 --> 00:38:59,506 Speaker 1: have a team that had Kurt Warner. Isaac Bruce, I 953 00:38:59,586 --> 00:39:02,386 Speaker 1: think I had Terrell Owens on that team. And I 954 00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:06,066 Speaker 1: tore up my fantasy league and ran away with a victory. 955 00:39:06,506 --> 00:39:09,186 Speaker 1: And I will tell you that is still one of 956 00:39:09,266 --> 00:39:12,146 Speaker 1: my greatest achievements, the amount of points that my team 957 00:39:12,186 --> 00:39:15,266 Speaker 1: won by in the East Coast Stream Team league back 958 00:39:15,306 --> 00:39:17,226 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine with all my buddies from Freehill 959 00:39:17,226 --> 00:39:21,746 Speaker 1: Township High School. That is the importance of fantasy football. 960 00:39:22,146 --> 00:39:24,786 Speaker 1: It brings you back to nineteen ninety nine and we're 961 00:39:24,786 --> 00:39:27,986 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty three. That's me. Do you have 962 00:39:28,026 --> 00:39:30,986 Speaker 1: a fantasy league, Aaron. Wan Kaufman, my producer who I know, 963 00:39:31,666 --> 00:39:33,706 Speaker 1: has a lot of interest and it's very eclectic. Does 964 00:39:33,706 --> 00:39:37,026 Speaker 1: fantasy football fill in the ven diagram shaded area of 965 00:39:37,066 --> 00:39:37,426 Speaker 1: you and me? 966 00:39:38,146 --> 00:39:42,586 Speaker 2: Yeah, very much so. I actually got into fantasy same 967 00:39:42,626 --> 00:39:45,386 Speaker 2: thing with a bunch of friends from high school, middle school. 968 00:39:45,906 --> 00:39:48,826 Speaker 2: Then also like the same year when I was starting, 969 00:39:48,866 --> 00:39:50,906 Speaker 2: that one also started two others. 970 00:39:50,946 --> 00:39:52,866 Speaker 1: So I had like three leagues. 971 00:39:52,546 --> 00:39:56,906 Speaker 2: In my very first year of playing Fantasy. And my 972 00:39:57,026 --> 00:39:59,786 Speaker 2: favorite part, like the guys were saying like you were saying, 973 00:39:59,866 --> 00:40:02,746 Speaker 2: is just keeping in touch with friends and like sending emails. 974 00:40:02,906 --> 00:40:05,986 Speaker 2: And we have won my league with like the high 975 00:40:05,986 --> 00:40:09,506 Speaker 2: school school friends, the four of us that are like 976 00:40:09,546 --> 00:40:12,626 Speaker 2: the tightest one of the guys has still not won, 977 00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:14,146 Speaker 2: even though he's the one who's. 978 00:40:14,026 --> 00:40:15,666 Speaker 1: This is like fifteen years you guys have been in 979 00:40:15,706 --> 00:40:16,146 Speaker 1: this right. 980 00:40:16,106 --> 00:40:19,346 Speaker 2: It is yes, yep, and it is just a I 981 00:40:19,426 --> 00:40:21,906 Speaker 2: just I never let him forget it. It's always just 982 00:40:21,946 --> 00:40:23,906 Speaker 2: like in the chat, I'm like, oh wait, isn't there 983 00:40:23,946 --> 00:40:26,626 Speaker 2: someone here who's never won our league. I forget which 984 00:40:26,626 --> 00:40:27,466 Speaker 2: one of us it is. 985 00:40:28,186 --> 00:40:30,546 Speaker 1: I do have strong takes, as you could hear, like 986 00:40:30,626 --> 00:40:34,426 Speaker 1: I really resent the auto draft thing. I think that's real, 987 00:40:34,586 --> 00:40:36,506 Speaker 1: Like if you can't give me two seconds of your time, 988 00:40:36,626 --> 00:40:39,866 Speaker 1: then you don't belong in our league. I actually look 989 00:40:39,946 --> 00:40:42,106 Speaker 1: in my whole life, I was in one league. I 990 00:40:42,186 --> 00:40:44,306 Speaker 1: hate the idea that people don't get together, and I 991 00:40:44,346 --> 00:40:46,146 Speaker 1: know that's selfish. And now that I've got a family, 992 00:40:46,146 --> 00:40:48,506 Speaker 1: it's nearly impossible, like on the weekend. But like, I 993 00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:51,146 Speaker 1: hate these leagues that it's just random people that you 994 00:40:51,186 --> 00:40:53,506 Speaker 1: don't know, and Danny said he has. When Danny said 995 00:40:53,546 --> 00:40:55,226 Speaker 1: he's in twenty three leagues, I almost wanted to like 996 00:40:55,306 --> 00:40:57,226 Speaker 1: chop my hand off. That was the crazy, like that 997 00:40:57,346 --> 00:40:58,666 Speaker 1: is not fun. That sounds like hell. 998 00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:02,626 Speaker 2: I have decreased the number that I've been in and 999 00:41:02,706 --> 00:41:07,066 Speaker 2: especially like the more that I've worked with NFL all stuff, 1000 00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:09,706 Speaker 2: the less I want to be in those leagues because 1001 00:41:09,746 --> 00:41:11,866 Speaker 2: it's just it, it is too much to keep track 1002 00:41:11,906 --> 00:41:13,986 Speaker 2: of and like you were saying, at some point, you 1003 00:41:14,306 --> 00:41:17,426 Speaker 2: are rooting for every player and against every player, and 1004 00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:20,706 Speaker 2: it's like I need I need Jonathan Taylor Discord, but 1005 00:41:20,786 --> 00:41:24,266 Speaker 2: not more than sixteen, but he can't do more than seventeen. Yeah, 1006 00:41:24,306 --> 00:41:28,546 Speaker 2: it's it's wild. But yeah, the I've been really lucky 1007 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,106 Speaker 2: that you know, we've had a couple of drafts that 1008 00:41:30,146 --> 00:41:32,306 Speaker 2: have been in person. But I have I have one 1009 00:41:32,346 --> 00:41:35,546 Speaker 2: friend who's a doctor and he one time he did 1010 00:41:35,586 --> 00:41:40,866 Speaker 2: a draft, like hope, so during that run in and out, yeah, 1011 00:41:40,946 --> 00:41:43,466 Speaker 2: not during surgery, but he was like on call and 1012 00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:46,226 Speaker 2: would like run in and out of the like doctor 1013 00:41:47,466 --> 00:41:48,946 Speaker 2: rest area that they have. I don't even know what 1014 00:41:48,986 --> 00:41:51,226 Speaker 2: it's called, but he was like in the hospital doing 1015 00:41:51,226 --> 00:41:51,706 Speaker 2: the draft. 1016 00:41:51,986 --> 00:41:55,346 Speaker 1: I also it's a I think it's like it's like 1017 00:41:55,506 --> 00:41:58,706 Speaker 1: I don't give a about anyone else's fantasy league either. 1018 00:41:58,746 --> 00:42:00,346 Speaker 1: Like when someone comes up to me and starts talking 1019 00:42:00,346 --> 00:42:02,946 Speaker 1: to me about their team, I you, there is nothing 1020 00:42:02,946 --> 00:42:07,186 Speaker 1: I'd rather talk about mathematics or like the future of algebra. 1021 00:42:07,706 --> 00:42:10,386 Speaker 1: I don't care. I know it sounds rude. I do 1022 00:42:10,426 --> 00:42:12,986 Speaker 1: not care, and it's the question I get the most. 1023 00:42:13,106 --> 00:42:16,306 Speaker 1: If I'm ever recognized on the street or in an airport, 1024 00:42:16,346 --> 00:42:18,466 Speaker 1: someone will shove their phone in my face and they'll 1025 00:42:18,466 --> 00:42:20,826 Speaker 1: be like, who would you start this week? And I'm like, 1026 00:42:20,866 --> 00:42:23,546 Speaker 1: I don't care, don't care, and I'm really rude. Sometimes 1027 00:42:23,626 --> 00:42:26,786 Speaker 1: on Twitter or someone will be like Shrag's PPR league 1028 00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:29,106 Speaker 1: twelve teams flex and I just right back, don't care, 1029 00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:32,866 Speaker 1: don't care. I don't I don't care, And that's my 1030 00:42:32,946 --> 00:42:33,426 Speaker 1: take on that. 1031 00:42:33,906 --> 00:42:35,426 Speaker 2: I'll be sure to text you during one of my 1032 00:42:35,506 --> 00:42:37,906 Speaker 2: drafts and ask you, I mean, tregger, I got I 1033 00:42:37,946 --> 00:42:41,066 Speaker 2: got a twelve front's sleeper for me here. I do 1034 00:42:41,386 --> 00:42:44,986 Speaker 2: care about my friend's leagues or my friend's team. If 1035 00:42:44,986 --> 00:42:47,786 Speaker 2: it's I'm in the league too, then I care because 1036 00:42:47,786 --> 00:42:48,466 Speaker 2: I wanted to do poor. 1037 00:42:48,586 --> 00:42:50,066 Speaker 1: The best is when you know you're in a live 1038 00:42:50,146 --> 00:42:52,586 Speaker 1: draft with your friends and there's one guy, and again 1039 00:42:52,946 --> 00:42:55,106 Speaker 1: not an advocate of bullying, but there's one guy that 1040 00:42:55,146 --> 00:42:58,186 Speaker 1: no matter who he takes, everyone will go eh, and 1041 00:42:58,226 --> 00:43:01,666 Speaker 1: it's like no, no, no, no, no, like it just constantly. Yeah, 1042 00:43:01,786 --> 00:43:05,506 Speaker 1: that's it, Aaron, Good luck in your fantasy drafts. I 1043 00:43:05,506 --> 00:43:07,386 Speaker 1: think we time this. I think they're going to be 1044 00:43:07,386 --> 00:43:09,306 Speaker 1: this weekend, next weekend, and then of course up until 1045 00:43:09,346 --> 00:43:12,066 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend. But with preseason and full swing, now 1046 00:43:12,146 --> 00:43:16,546 Speaker 1: is the time the rare fantasy football podcast. We went there, 1047 00:43:16,586 --> 00:43:18,866 Speaker 1: I chartered those waters, and I'll tell you what I 1048 00:43:18,906 --> 00:43:22,106 Speaker 1: think we survived. Thanks for joining, buddy, Have a good weekend. 1049 00:43:22,306 --> 00:43:25,066 Speaker 1: Let's go all right on behalf of Aaron and all 1050 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:28,746 Speaker 1: the crew here in New York and La enjoy your weekend. 1051 00:43:28,826 --> 00:43:29,266 Speaker 3: Everybody. 1052 00:43:29,266 --> 00:43:40,506 Speaker 8: Football regular season is almost here. 1053 00:43:48,786 --> 00:43:51,506 Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the 1054 00:43:51,666 --> 00:43:55,626 Speaker 1: NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 1055 00:43:55,706 --> 00:44:00,946 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts wherever you get your podcasts,