1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: This podcast is based in large part of the book 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Born Ready, The Mixed Legacy of Limby's. Some quotes are 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: narrated by Davon Grady, a podcast producer and the author 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: of the book, from interviews done for the book. Recordings 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: for these comments were not available. 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: It's get it all from quick and he was so warriors. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 3: Competitor and a warrior. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't there yet, but you could see 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 4: the athletic ability, and you see the potential. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 5: You know, God gave him a lot of talentedly gifted guy. 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 6: There were only a few players that I heard our 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 6: best players talk about with reverence about that. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 7: One was Jordan's. The other was Biased. London would come by. 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 8: School and we would just walk the halls and talk. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 8: Sometimes got it and usually not about basketball. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 9: Mayas from outside and he got out bias with twenty 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 9: nine oh on Jawn, what a play Bias? 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 10: Howay cow throwing it for a little while. Kenny Smith 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 10: had his back turned as soon as he threw the ball, 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 10: and I just came and anticipated and smacked it down 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 10: and then came right into my hands. 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 11: And I was no where I looked up. I was 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 11: under the basket. 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 12: I just jumped up and court and he played his 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 12: final game at cole against Virginia Olden Polonies. Put up 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 12: a shot and I was very close to the floor, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 12: and you heard Leonard go up in snagg it in 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 12: mid air and say get that shit out of here, 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 12: and he threw it into the fourth row. 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: Up next to Lumby's mixed legacy Born Ready like the gold, 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: chains and beaks. 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 11: At basketball practice one day in the winter of nineteen 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 11: seventy nine and Landover, Maryland, some kid kept peeking through 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 11: the doors to the gym at the Columbia Recreation Center, 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 11: also known as the Wreck. He was yelling to a 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 11: friend inside the gym. Johnny Walker, a coach leading the practice, 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 11: told the boy to ignore the interloper and to pay attention. 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 11: The curious boy finally gave up and walked away. That 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 11: boy was Lambias. A few months later, Walker spotted Bias 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 11: riding his bike a few blocks from the gym. Walker 41 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 11: started talking to him. Bias was in the ninth grade 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 11: and said he was a good player. His parents, he said, 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 11: did not let him leave the streets without their supervision. 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 11: Walker offered to talk to his parents about walking Bias 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 11: from his house to the wreck so he could play 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 11: with the other boys there. His parents agreed, but not 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 11: without some reservation. James Bias did stop by the wreck 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 11: at times to check on his son. Derek Wittenberg, was 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 11: a star at the Matha High School in North Carolina State. 50 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 11: He grew up playing on the outdoor courts at the 51 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 11: wreck and remembers seeing Lynn play on those courts. 52 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 4: And Lynn was kind of like one of those kids 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: that you know, you could see the potential, but he, 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: you know, he wasn't there yet in high school, but 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: you could definitely see the potential. 56 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 11: Lee Matkins was the director of and a coach at 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 11: the wreck. He saw Bias developed quickly. 58 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: At first, kid he used to laugh at him, you know, 59 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: cause he was very awkward, you know, but he. 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 13: Kept playing playing, and then like every day he was 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 13: up there, like seven days a week, and he developed 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 13: one of the basketball players I had. 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 11: Bias had been cut from his junior high school team 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 11: in both the seventh and eighth grades. He prayed to 65 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 11: get better, and he would with Walker's help. Brian Waller 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 11: was a year older than Bias and was already being 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 11: coached by Walker at the wreck. He later was a 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 11: high school teammate of Bias. 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 14: Waller told me Len was tall, lanky, and raw. 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 15: He could shoot, was a very good athlete, but he 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 15: was a bit of a baby. 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 14: Wasn't tough. 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 11: It was tough at the beginning for Bias. During workouts 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 11: at the Wreck, Walker treated Bias like any other player 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 11: in the group. He roughed him up, pushed him. After 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 11: he took a shot, Walker hit Bias with elbows and 77 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 11: muscled him away from the basket. Slowly, Bias was turning 78 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 11: into a physical force that fans at Maryland and the 79 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 11: ACC would see years later. 80 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 15: Waller told me Walker would give us everything that wasn't 81 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 15: in the rule book. People were felling Bias all the time. 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 15: No matter how much you whined, Johnny was still killing him. 83 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 15: You're either step up or you don't. 84 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 11: Bias adapted to the physical play, and he became the 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 11: intimidator on Columbia Park sixteen and under traveling team. To 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 11: set the tone. At the beginning of game, Columbia Park 87 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 11: let opponents win the opening tip so Bias could block 88 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 11: or goaltend their first shot. Waller recalls winning every game 89 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 11: that summer. Columbia Park felt so confident that players on 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 11: the bench would read the newspaper. Toward the end of 91 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 11: Runaway Games. The workouts Walker designed for Bias and Waller 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 11: inspired younger players at the Wreck, most notably Lenn's younger 93 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 11: brother Jay and Clinton Vennible, later a high school teammate 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 11: of Jays. 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 16: When Lennard and Ryan Ice and Johnny them guys used 96 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 16: to work out, they used to let Jay and myself 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 16: and Henry never got to play with us hang out 98 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 16: with them. We just get so excited, like it was 99 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 16: like Christmas, and He's like, you know, be quiet, you know, 100 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 16: don't do this, don't do that, And we just wanted 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 16: to hang out with these guys. But they teaching us 102 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 16: to know little tricks and watching those guys, you know, 103 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 16: how to pass. 104 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 11: Ball workouts helped Bias develop into a different player. Waller 105 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 11: says it was like night and day. When Bias entered 106 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 11: Northwestern High School. The school's coach, Bob Wagner, considered Bias 107 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 11: a work in progress. A problem was lens heightened emotions. 108 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 17: The jumping abiltie was there, the competitiveness was there, shutting 109 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 17: the mouth down. And what I would basically do there 110 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 17: I let him play in some men's leagues with guys 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 17: that I knew it. Wo brough him up a little bit, 112 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 17: but they would also talk to him and not physically 113 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 17: hurt him or injure him. 114 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: He'd heard him, and. 115 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 17: You've got to get the mouth shut so the mind 116 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 17: can functions of the body can play. 117 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 11: After his sophomore year, Bias attended the Five Star Basketball Camp. There, 118 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 11: the top high school basketball players in the nation gathered 119 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 11: annually to learn from NBA or college players. Top coaches 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 11: included such legends as Bobby Knight, Chuck Daily at QB Brown. 121 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 11: College coaches scouted the top high school talent in the country. 122 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 11: The best players received free tuition at the camp, but 123 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 11: worked off their fee as waiters. That first year, Bias 124 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 11: paid his own way. Waller also attended the camp with 125 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 11: Bias and saw his friend transformed as a player. 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 15: Waller told me he either outplayed the other guys or 127 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 15: played them evenly. His confidence changed after that Five Star camp. 128 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 15: After that, there was no looking back. 129 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 11: Buzz Peterson first saw Bias play at the Five Star Camp. 130 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 11: Peterson was a top high school player from North Carolina 131 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 11: and was later Michael Jordan's teammate at the University of 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 11: North Carolina. 133 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 14: You could you could see that. 134 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 18: I mean, are's tons of athleticability, you know, more of 135 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 18: a two foot jumper than could really explode and get 136 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 18: up in the air. 137 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 7: It just it just it was unlimited. And he had 138 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 7: this kind of a. 139 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 18: Personality that you know, he was he would soap things 140 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 18: in and and he was this easy to approach. 141 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 11: Was this one of. 142 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 18: These guys the smile, you know, put his arm around you, 143 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 18: you know, poke you here and there. But when he's 144 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 18: on a court, boy, he was pretty Dagham good. 145 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 11: At the camp, Bias and Waller were introduced by Larry 146 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 11: Spriggs to another rising star. Spriggs, a camp counselor, played 147 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 11: for Northwestern High School and later played five seasons in 148 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 11: the NBA. 149 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 15: Waller told me we saw Jordan sitting on a bench 150 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 15: and Larry said he wanted to introduce him to his 151 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 15: home boys. Larry introduced me as my nickname Ice. Jordan said, 152 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 15: they call me Black Ice. 153 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 11: Waller, Peterson, Bias, and Jordan's spent nights at the camp 154 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 11: talking about their basketball dreams. The following year, Waller and 155 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 11: Bias played a pickup game in Colefield House on the 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 11: Maryland campus against Jordan and a friend they had seen 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 11: each other at a Maryland football game. Waller claims he 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 11: and Bias won the game. Bias also met John Sally 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 11: at the five Star camp. Sally played four years at 160 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 11: Georgia Tech against Bias. He was later the number twelve 161 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 11: selection in the nineteen eighty six NBA draft. Sally recalls 162 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 11: Bias embracing the chance to play against Billy Thompson, the 163 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 11: number one high school player in the country who played 164 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 11: at Louisville and Len. 165 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 19: Bias said, I'm going against Billy today and I'm going 166 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 19: to destroy him. Lenny Bias was busted and Billy Thompson's 167 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 19: but so bad that Billy pump Fake Billy went the 168 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 19: air and he cut Lenny's head. Lenny had to go 169 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 19: get stitches. I said, did you go into town to 170 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 19: get those stitches? He said, not before I took Billy 171 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 19: t the town. Every scout's going to realize why Now, 172 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 19: That's exactly what his mentality was. 173 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 11: Growing up some ten miles from the Maryland campus, Bias 174 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 11: found it easy to spend time there. While in high school, 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 11: he worked as a popcorn vendor at Maryland basketball games. 176 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 11: During the summers, he attended camps operated by Maryland coach 177 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 11: left to Grisel. Bias and Waller often walked from Northwestern 178 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 11: High School to the Maryland campus, a distance of about 179 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 11: one mile. There, they dreamed about being basketball stars at 180 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 11: the school and spent time with Ernie Graham, one of 181 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 11: Maryland's top players at the time. They lifted weights in 182 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 11: cole Fieldhouse and played pickup games with Graham and other 183 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 11: Maryland players. 184 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 15: Waller told me, we go to his room, We go 185 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 15: to with Jim and play ball. We were so blessed, 186 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 15: we were so happy. 187 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 11: Graham remembers Bias as a nice, enthusiastic kid who smiled 188 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 11: and joked around a lot. 189 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 15: Graham told me he would just show up and stand 190 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 15: there at the door. He wouldn't want anything or say anything. 191 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 15: He says, I'm doing whatever you're doing. He always had 192 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 15: that smile, always had a joke or something funny to say. 193 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 14: He kept everybody laughing. 194 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 11: At Northwestern, Bias was developing into a top college prospect. 195 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 11: He matched up well with some of the best high 196 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 11: school players in the area. They included Johnny Dawkins, later 197 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 11: an ACC Player of the Year at Duke. 198 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 13: And I just always respected guys who really worked on 199 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 13: the craft. I mean, you know, when you love the 200 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 13: game and you're passionate about it, you know you're gonna 201 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 13: put whatever time it takes to become great at it. 202 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 13: And I could tell he was doing that because there 203 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 13: wasn't a time I didn't seehim getting better and better. 204 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 11: After his junior year, Bias returned to five star. He 205 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 11: had reached the heralded status of waiter, giving him free tuition. 206 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 11: Bias won the Most Outstanding Player award that year over 207 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 11: such future NBA player Dawkins and Billy Thompson, who helped 208 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 11: Louisville win a national title in nineteen eighty six. Howard 209 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 11: Garfinkel started the camp in nineteen sixty six and ran 210 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 11: it for forty two years. 211 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 15: Garfinkel told me he was one of the top ten 212 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 15: or fifteen best ever at our camp. He was an 213 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 15: extraterrestrial athlete and a great scorer, and he was a 214 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 15: great person, very likable. 215 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 11: Bias' senior year at Northwestern started slowly. The team lost 216 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 11: four of its first five games. A lot had to 217 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 11: do with Bias' suspension earlier in the year. 218 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 8: His senior year, I sat Leonard down for two weeks. Now, 219 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 8: people don't under it was academic reasons. He had a 220 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 8: couple of season classes. He was a smart kid. We 221 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 8: want to make sure he was going to get his 222 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 8: golfline scores to go to school. He's definitely better than 223 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 8: a C student any subject. 224 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 11: On the court. Wagner was trying to develop a well 225 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 11: rounded warrior. He made sure Bias understood you had to 226 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 11: stand up for yourself, all the while making sure you 227 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 11: had the talent to back it up. 228 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: Leonard was a warrior's a compeditor and a warrior. So 229 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 8: if I had told him, you know, never defend yourself, 230 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 8: never retaliate, he wouldn't have bought into He think I'm 231 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 8: going to get him hurt or something. I remember we 232 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 8: were up in Boston in a tournament, AAU tournament. Guys 233 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 8: are just warming. I mean just like his senior year. 234 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 8: I mean people, the referees, they physically he took a beating, 235 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 8: but that started in high school. He was prepared for 236 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 8: that in Maryland. And these kids, small Catholic, white school, 237 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 8: they're just bounding, cheap shot man. And in the beginning 238 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 8: of the second half, I see a kid double over 239 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 8: coming down the court and going out of the game. 240 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 8: So the rule was you could never retaliate because referees 241 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 8: always see the second. 242 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: Thing that occurred. 243 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 8: But you could, yeah, what a warrior does and on 244 00:13:59,000 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 8: the play, it's from the play. 245 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: Now you might. 246 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 8: Found me real hard. I don't value back right away. 247 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 8: I wait till later on or a game later and 248 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 8: you're just going to relax or going for a layup, 249 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 8: and you know, all of a sudden, you know you're 250 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 8: laid out. 251 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 7: On the ground. 252 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: It's so sad. 253 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Lembias the Mixed Legacy on the Eighth 254 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: Side Network. 255 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 11: With Bias back on the team, Northwestern won nineteen consecutive 256 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 11: games and advanced to the state championship game. There, they 257 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 11: lost by a point. At the Buzzer. Bias scored eighteen 258 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 11: points and had thirteen rebounds. Bias later joined Dawkins on 259 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 11: a DC area All Star team that beat a team 260 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 11: of US All Americans in the Capitol Classic. The game 261 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 11: was then the premier high school all star tournament in 262 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 11: the country. Dawkins had nineteen points and Bias eighteen against 263 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 11: a team that featured future NBA stars Brad Doherty and 264 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 11: Del Curry. 265 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 13: They had that kind of performance on that stage. You know, 266 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 13: told him everything I need to know about him and 267 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 13: how good he could become, and so of course to 268 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 13: win that game against all the all Americas small over 269 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 13: the country's. 270 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 7: A big deal in our city. 271 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 13: And we were able to win that game and we 272 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 13: shared d MVP. 273 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 11: Bias considered a few other colleges besides Maryland. On a 274 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 11: trip to Oregon State, Bias was led around campus by 275 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 11: Ac Green, who later played seventeen seasons in the NBA. 276 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 11: Waller says that Bias came home and pressed that Green 277 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 11: drove a Lincoln town Car. While visiting the University of 278 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 11: San Francisco, Bias watched Quinton Daily play against Dominique Wilkins 279 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 11: of Georgia. He came away impressed by the jumping ability 280 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 11: of Wilkins, who became a nine time NBA All Star, 281 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 11: as well as his dunks, and he was inspired to 282 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 11: get stronger. 283 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 15: Waller told me, all of a sudden, he started lifting 284 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 15: weights with his legs, and. 285 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 11: Then there was NC State. The last thing Bias told 286 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 11: head coach Jim Valvano after a visit to the school 287 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 11: was that he would attend NC State. If it had 288 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 11: been up to Bias alone, he may very well have 289 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 11: done that. Johnny Walker claims that NC State was Bias' 290 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 11: first choice, based in part on an enjoyable campus visit. 291 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 15: Walker told me NC State did a lot of things 292 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 15: down there for him. 293 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 14: He had a good time. They lived well down there. 294 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 11: Wittenberg, who was finishing his junior year at NC State 295 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 11: when Bias took his visit, says that he was struck 296 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 11: at how introverted Bias was at the time. And he 297 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 11: had a. 298 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: Wonderful person out that dikes a smile. 299 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: But I don't think he. 300 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Was just outgoing guy that you would say, Lenny, it's 301 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: over here, Lenny's over there. 302 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 7: I didn't see that, and. 303 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: It's certainly been on the business. 304 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: He was one of the few guys I could see 305 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: just comfortable stay at home. I think because he didn't 306 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 4: know anything else. I think he was close to his 307 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 4: brother and his family and friends around Northwest, and I 308 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: think that he was very comfortable standing at home. 309 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 11: The influence of Bias's father, James, was stronger than the 310 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 11: appeal of NC State. That, combined with Bias's passion for Maryland, 311 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 11: convinced lend to stay close to home. During their summers 312 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 11: together at Five Star, Sally Dawkins and Bias talked about 313 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 11: playing together in college. It was apparent to them that 314 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 11: Bias was going to Maryland, and for a time, Sally said, 315 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 11: he and Dawkins considered it too. 316 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: We were going to go to Maryland and be. 317 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 19: Him, Johnny Dawkins were going to be the big three 318 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 19: before Lebron even knew you could do that. 319 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: But left to Giselle. 320 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 19: He told me that I would I would have to 321 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 19: play behind Ben Coleman, and I didn't like that. Johnny 322 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 19: Dawkins said, well, I heard I could start at Duke, 323 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 19: so we all agreed. You know, hey, lady, you stay 324 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 19: in and Johnny Dalks I didn't want to stay home. 325 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 19: It's too much pressure, too many tickets, too much stuff. 326 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 19: So we all picked different places to be. 327 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: A acc. 328 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 11: Dawkins was an immediate star for Duke as a freshman, 329 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 11: leading the Blue Devils in scoring and minutes played. Sally 330 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 11: started every game and averaged more than thirty minutes a 331 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 11: night for Georgia Tech. Bias did not make his first 332 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 11: start for Maryland until after the new year. He struggled 333 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 11: as coach Drizzell altered his shooting style, getting Bias to 334 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 11: release the ball at the height of his jump. Bias 335 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 11: would later say he was not comfortable with the change 336 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 11: until his junior year, but Bias did not relish his 337 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 11: first year at Maryland. He felt that Drizzell wanted him 338 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 11: to focus too much on defense. Drizzel matched him against 339 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 11: such top players as Ralph Sampson, a three time College 340 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 11: Player of the Year, and Clyde Drexler, later at ten 341 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 11: time NBA All Star. Johnny Walker remembers Bias asking him 342 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 11: during the season to contact NC State about transferring there 343 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 11: the next year. 344 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 15: Walker told me he would say that they're trying to 345 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 15: change a shot, and that every time he tried to 346 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 15: shoot the ball, they have something to say to him 347 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 15: and they take him out of the game. 348 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 14: He finally got tired of it. Here's a guy who's. 349 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 15: Been a scorer, and you're asking him to not shoot 350 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 15: the ball. Scoring is all he's done, and now you 351 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 15: don't do that. 352 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 11: Here's Bias's teammate, Jeff Baxter. 353 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: Glenn actually asked Johnny to reach out to n State. 354 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: I do know that State was ready for him. We 355 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 3: were ready to take for now. 356 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 11: I do know that this year, a meeting before the 357 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 11: end of the season between Bias and Drizzell resolved their differences. 358 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 11: And after his first year, Bias worked on his dribbling skills, 359 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 11: considered his main weakness. He wore special glasses that did 360 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 11: not allow him to see the basketball when he looked down. 361 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 11: During his sophomore year, Maryland was ten and one when 362 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 11: they hosted North Carolina on January twelfth, nineteen eighty four. 363 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 9: This is cole Field House overflowing the fans to watch 364 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 9: what could be the game of the year with number 365 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 9: one North Carolina against fifth rank Maryland. 366 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 11: It would be Michael Jordan's last year with Carolina, setting 367 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 11: up a classic clash between Jordan and Bias. Bias scored 368 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 11: twenty four in the game and Jordan had twenty one, 369 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 11: leading Carolina to a twelve point win. It was a 370 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 11: game that plays Bias within the national conversation of top 371 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 11: college players. Bias was the second leading scorer that season 372 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 11: for Maryland, which finished second in the ACC, but Bias 373 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 11: was not selected to the All ACC team. That prompted 374 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 11: Bias to make a bold proclamation. Walder remembers receiving a 375 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 11: phone call from Bias about that. 376 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 15: Waller told me, you see the paper today, I didn't 377 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 15: even make the second team. That's all right, I'm gonna 378 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 15: go down to the ACC and win the MVP of 379 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 15: the tournament. 380 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 11: He did, leading Maryland to its first ACC Conference title 381 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 11: since nineteen fifty eight, and the final against Duke, Bias 382 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 11: scored twenty six points. 383 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 9: Pigs all his block twenty one seconds away from the victory, 384 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 9: leading by eleven. 385 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 20: Right here the time out was Magan Bye do and 386 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 20: the Maryland people celebrate him. Ben Bullman flapping his coach 387 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 20: on the back of hands, laps all a round the. 388 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 11: Maryl Aventure Johnny Dawkins was a sophomore on Duke's team 389 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 11: that year. 390 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 13: He was terrific. Again, you know, he stalled just making 391 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 13: clay after play. I just, like I said, it was 392 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 13: very difficult to guard because he did so many things, 393 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 13: whether it's shooting the ball from the perimeter, whether it's 394 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 13: you know, finishing around the basket, offensive rebounds, getting out 395 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 13: in the lane and running. I mean, he just was 396 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 13: like I say he was. He was so well rounded 397 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 13: as a player and can't find too many faults in 398 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 13: his game. And those guys are the hardest ones to defend. 399 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 11: As a freshman, Bias was a stubborn student. Ben Coleman, 400 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 11: a senior center on the ACC title team said Bias 401 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 11: did not take criticism well as a freshman, that it 402 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 11: was difficult to talk to him, but that changed his 403 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 11: sophomore year. After his sophomore season, Bias stressed increasing his strength. 404 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 11: Feral Edmunds, an All American tight end at Maryland, remembers 405 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 11: Bias working out with Maryland players that summer. 406 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 15: Feral Edmunds told me he would do a lot of reps, 407 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 15: not a lot of weight to endurance. It was far 408 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 15: and then to see a basket ball player working out 409 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 15: with the football players. 410 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 14: He would challenge us. 411 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 15: If you did fifteen reps and he thought he could 412 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 15: do it, he'd try and beat you. 413 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 14: He loved competition. He was challenged by everybody. 414 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 11: Frank Costello was Maryland's strength coach at the time. He 415 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 11: compares Bias to another athlete from Maryland, Rinaldo Nehemiah. He 416 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 11: set world records in the hurdles at Maryland in the 417 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 11: late seventies when Costello was the school's track coach. 418 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: You know, God gave him a lot of talent. He's 419 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 5: a genetically gifted guy. He has a high level of 420 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 5: fast swooch muscle fibers and he knows how to use them. 421 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 5: People talk about athletic ability, we're talking about the smoothness 422 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: of coordination, how to control his power, how to control 423 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 5: all his strength, and he could do it exceptionally well, 424 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 5: and he could do it and make it look easy. 425 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 11: John Philbin worked with Costello as the head strength coach 426 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 11: for men's basketball during bias freshman year. Over the course 427 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 11: of three decades, Philbin later was a US Olympic head 428 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 11: Bob sled coach, and a conditioning coach in the NFL 429 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 11: as well as Major League Baseball. 430 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 21: His physique was probably like no other athlete I've ever 431 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 21: worked with. The only one that might compare would be 432 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 21: probably Herscha Walker. He was just naturally strong. We ended 433 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 21: up doing some bench tests and some squad testing. Lenny 434 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 21: had never really done any formal strength training. He did 435 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 21: fifteen good rips with two hundred and twenty five pounds 436 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 21: and that wasn't bouncing off the chest and doing them 437 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 21: really quickly. That was just bro He had not done 438 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 21: a program up to that point. And then we did 439 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 21: the squads with ended up being two seventy five and 440 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 21: he did. He ended up doing fifteen reps with those. 441 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 21: To give you an idea the level of power and 442 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 21: strength that he naturally had. 443 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 15: By the time you finished that year, did you test 444 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 15: him again? 445 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 21: Well, we did, and he ended up going to forty 446 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 21: five and he ended up getting eighteen reps and then 447 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 21: three in a quarter with the squad. He ended up 448 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 21: doing fourteen something of that nature, somewhere between twelve and fourteen, 449 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 21: and boy was it was amazing. I think he obviously 450 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 21: in that situation he probably could have done more if 451 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 21: he really wanted to do more. 452 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 7: He was motivated to do more. 453 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 21: His strength levels were off the charts. Nobody could compare well. 454 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 21: The bottom line is that the guy was a freak. 455 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 21: He was very flexible, he was explosive. We did vertical jump. 456 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 21: He was forty four point five vertical straight up, you know, 457 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 21: no step in. When he stepped in, he was forty 458 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 21: eight to fifty. The power output was just exceptional, beyond 459 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 21: anything I've ever seen him in any sport. 460 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 11: I love the dump. 461 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 10: That's you know, that's basically some of my game right there, 462 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 10: just jumping and dunk. 463 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 7: And I loved the dumb That's something. 464 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 22: I did every since I was in junior high school, 465 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 22: and I just keep on doing it. 466 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 5: It's not just one thing like the exceptional strength or 467 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: exceptional speed. It's a combination of all those things you 468 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: know develop a good athlete. It's like a chemist for 469 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 5: a chemistry set, you know, fortius and this, and he 470 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 5: mix them all together. Where he had all those chemicals, 471 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 5: you didn't have to like, Oh man, this guy will 472 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 5: be good if I can get him a little bit quicker, 473 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 5: a little bit faster. 474 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 3: This he had it. Then he had it. 475 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 11: ESPN basketball analyst Jay Billis played at Duke against Bias 476 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 11: for four years. 477 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 6: By the time he became a sophomore and was, you know, 478 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 6: sort of the lead dog for Maryland. 479 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 7: His his athleticism was off the track. 480 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 11: Here's Bias. His teammate and classmate Jeff Baxter, another star 481 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 11: player out of the Washington DC area. 482 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: Ley coming out of high school was not in the 483 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: University of Maryland. 484 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 19: But if you ever seen a player to stop it 485 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 19: blossom well and just growing and all. 486 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: Of a sudden talent started to come out from everywhere. 487 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 11: It was Baxter recalls and played during one game that 488 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 11: was symbolic of the magical moves Bias could make. 489 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: I never forget. 490 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 19: We were playing Georgia Tech and Lee was in the 491 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 19: baseline and he was shooting with his right hand. John 492 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 19: Sally came to block and he was near his right hand. 493 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 19: Lenny Swiss to his left hand on the baseline and 494 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 19: shot it great Armad took his hat off through it, 495 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 19: and they had to stop the game. 496 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 3: Because they weren't He was the most It was the 497 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 3: craziest thing. So would I remember that one move? 498 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 19: No, But I do know he can shoot with He 499 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 19: was able to shoot with both hands and that was 500 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 19: important to him to not be stopped. Lenny would talk 501 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 19: about being able to use both hands, being able to drink, dribble, 502 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 19: play defense, jump shoot, hit a fout shot, he said, 503 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 19: hit him, hit a foust shot. 504 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: It's free. 505 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 11: I mean, he was so like being able to do everything. 506 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 19: You gotta be able to do everything as a ballplayer 507 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 19: to call yourself a total ballplayer. 508 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 11: Ed Woods was a six foot seven inch walk on 509 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 11: forward from Maryland in nineteen eighty four. He was able 510 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 11: to witness Bias do things that few have ever seen. 511 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 23: Len Bias would do something that you just like, I 512 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 23: just can't believe he did that. Like he would block 513 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 23: a jump shot from the wing. So he's halfway between 514 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 23: the basket and the wing and he takes that out 515 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 23: of the air, and it's and you're just, you know, 516 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 23: everything kind of stops, and everybody's just like, holy macklem 517 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 23: he's just a man among children and toying with us, 518 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 23: and you know he gets something underneath, and it's you know, 519 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 23: the little hack a shack. I mean, that's that's your 520 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 23: only defense. And you know, because he's going to take 521 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 23: it up and dunk on you because just because he could. 522 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to Limbias, the mixed Legacy on the eighth 523 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Side Network. 524 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 11: Bias inspired some players on the women's basketball team as well. 525 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 11: Vicky Bullet was an All American at Maryland and was 526 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 11: the first player allocated in the very beginning of the 527 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 11: WNBA draft in nineteen ninety seven. 528 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 24: So we just start imitating. We'll go to his practices 529 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 24: and we'll watch and see what he does. We tried 530 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 24: in practice. He taught us in versatility. He goes, well, 531 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 24: who said you couldn't take anybody off the dribble from 532 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 24: the free throw line? Who said you couldn't shoot a 533 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 24: turner round jumper on the low block outside of the lague. 534 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 24: So I think he had that guard like mentality that 535 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 24: was just evolving and now today, if you watch him 536 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 24: his basketball, I mean, Giannis is bringing the ball up 537 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 24: the court. You didn't see that much from a big guy. 538 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 24: And I think then was that player that said could 539 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 24: have set that tone for that type of player. And 540 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 24: you know, as my career went on, I learned to 541 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 24: be versatile, and you know, those words meant a lot. 542 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 11: Bias showed his improved mental and physical maturity throughout his 543 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 11: junior year. He was the ACC's top scorer, averaging nineteen 544 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 11: points a game. He was voted Conference Player of the Year. 545 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 11: He made third team All American. Indiana Pacers scout Tom 546 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 11: Nowle said Bias had the potential to be one of 547 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 11: the best forwards to ever play the game. Many, including Bias, 548 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 11: thought he was indeed ready for the NBA, but one 549 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 11: prominent voice encouraged Bias to stay another year. Celtics president 550 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 11: Read Aarbach, a good friend of Lefty Grizel, had told 551 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 11: Bias the previous summer he would do everything he could 552 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 11: to draft him, and Bias had no problem with that. 553 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 22: When I talked to mid our back last year when 554 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 22: I was deciding whether the stay school of go hardship, 555 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 22: just about talking to him, I could tell it I 556 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 22: would really like to play for him or play in 557 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 22: his organization. 558 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 11: At a dinner with Bias and his parents after his 559 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 11: junior year, Arbak told Bias that if he waited a year, 560 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 11: it would have proved Bias's chances of being drafted by 561 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 11: the Celtics. 562 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 25: My wife and I and his mother and father, Lenny 563 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 25: and his coach. 564 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: We sat down. 565 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 25: I said, the most important thing is get some maturity. 566 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 25: Stay in school. You go out now, you'll be drafted fifteenth. Wait, 567 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 25: wait that extra year, you'll surely be in the lottery. 568 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 25: Get your degree, and you'll achieve something in life. 569 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 11: Bias decided to stay another year at Maryland. Few were 570 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 11: as pleased as Drizell, a devout Christian, that Bias was returning. 571 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 11: The two had grown closer, in part after Bias became 572 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 11: a born again Christian while at Maryland. Sue Tyler, an 573 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 11: assistant athletic director, recalls being told about Bias sitting alone 574 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 11: and cole Fieldhouse reading a Bible. 575 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 26: He had a Bible for a long time. He carried 576 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 26: a Bible with him around the classes. It was interesting 577 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 26: that I recall seeing him more times than not. I 578 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 26: would see him having a Bible along with his books 579 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 26: if he had him visible. 580 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 11: Miriam Lejay became good friends with Bias while she attended Maryland. 581 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 11: They met while she was a tutor for the basketball team. 582 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 14: He specifically was very approachable. 583 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: So we had the Stamp Union. 584 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 27: You can walk down you know, the campus drive where 585 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 27: you can kind of walk in the back, and I 586 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 27: would kind of take a short cut to get in 587 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 27: my classes through the back, and he'd always be driving 588 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 27: and he'd say, hey, you know, jump the car, let's 589 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 27: go to McDonald's. I can remember this vividly, and I'd say, 590 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 27: you know, Lenny, I gotta get a class. 591 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 19: You know, I don't have time. 592 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 27: It's like, oh, come on, let's you know, let's just 593 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 27: go to McDonald's really quick. I'll take you back and 594 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 27: then we go to McDonald's. 595 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 11: Their friendship grew stronger with their common interest in Christianity. 596 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 27: This is somebody who had a prayer life. There was 597 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 27: no question, you know, he told me that he prayed regularly. 598 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 27: So when I mean a spiritual life with consistency, you 599 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 27: you know, you credit God for having created you, sustaining you. 600 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 27: Where your blessings come from, You're clear that it comes 601 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 27: from God and not somewhere else. So as I spoke 602 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 27: to him, and interestingly enough a lot of the other 603 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 27: guys on the team from time to time, it was 604 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 27: clear in their language that we spoke the same language, 605 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 27: in terms of a spiritual language that was rooted in 606 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 27: the Bible. 607 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 11: Drizell's connection with Bias at times transcended Christianity. He cherished 608 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 11: a common interaction between he and Bias before games. Drizzel 609 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 11: would often ask him, len are you ready, and Lean 610 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 11: would respond coach, I was born ready. Drizzell praised Bias's 611 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 11: work ethic in practice. 612 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 15: Lefty Grisel told me I used to have to take 613 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 15: him out of practices because he would dominate score all 614 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 15: the time and get all the rebounds. I had to 615 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 15: ask him, sit down, will you. He was a great 616 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 15: kid to coach, very coachable. When I recruited him, I 617 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 15: didn't think he'd be that good. He was everything you 618 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 15: want in a player. He never got hurt, was never late, 619 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 15: always worked hard. 620 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 11: Bias displayed an infectious personality throughout his career. Here's Vicky 621 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 11: bullet with more on that. 622 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 24: We'd always have to and all our practices running suicides 623 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 24: while they were coming in. So I said, well, can 624 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 24: they stand in the tunnel until. 625 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: We were done, So that was always a big thing. 626 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 24: But they were they cheered for us, and you know 627 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 24: Lenny was a part of that. You know, we had 628 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 24: the time to make those suicides and you know, having 629 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 24: him clapping his hands for us, and. 630 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 13: It was it was special. 631 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 11: Bias could be spontaneous, silly and fun loving. John Johnson, 632 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 11: a freshman on Maryland's nineteen eighty sixteen, finally recalls his 633 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 11: recruiting trip to Maryland. 634 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: I remember, one of the biggest reasons why I came 635 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: was because the fact that when I got here, you know, 636 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: he and I were down there wrestling in the floor 637 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: for whatever. 638 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 7: You know, I'll never forget that. 639 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: And I had no idea who Lynn Bias was when 640 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: I was at Senior Hospital. 641 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: The time the time the moment I. 642 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: Hit the door, it was one of those things where 643 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: he's joking around, he and I and that horse playing 644 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: or whatever and wrestling in the flow and stuff like that, 645 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: just like he had known me all his life. 646 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,439 Speaker 11: You know. Jeff Baxter was Biased his roommate for four 647 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 11: years at Maryland for. 648 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 19: A guy six for the basketball player, amazing dancers. We 649 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 19: would actually when we would have to have curfew, which 650 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 19: wasn't permitted. You're not for a game, and you couldn't 651 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 19: you could go out out, you couldn't go out the 652 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 19: apartment at all, couldn't leave it. You get bored. You're 653 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 19: getting bored. Stuff you've done. The game is not until 654 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 19: nine o'clock the next night, and you know it could 655 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 19: be a Friday night. So we were fast. We would 656 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 19: just type, turn the music out. Then we would dance. 657 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 19: Be the funny myself and being it dancing. It's great, 658 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 19: not together, but just dancing. Say you go, okay, then 659 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 19: you go. It would be funny as I mean okay, 660 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 19: here I mean. And that's how it was just hilarious. 661 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 11: Biases dancing interest at least once got him in trouble. 662 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 11: After a win against NC State in nineteen eighty six, Baxter, 663 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 11: Johnson and Bias attended a party in Raleigh with an 664 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 11: NC State player and returned past curfew. 665 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: I'll never forget it. 666 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: The annual Freak Mama contest Lama, something they did every year. 667 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: I call you Chuckie Brown and all those guys and 668 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: guys from DC. 669 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: I think Baxter know him pretty well or whatever, but 670 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: we had him. I don't regret it at all. 671 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 11: We had a great time. 672 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'll never forget that. 673 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 11: The three were suspended for the following game. By this time, 674 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 11: Bias showed signs of struggling with the pressure of his 675 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 11: senior season. Teammate Terry Long would later reveal publicly that 676 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 11: Bias introduced him to cocaine. In nineteen eighty four. Miriam Lejay, 677 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 11: a friend at Maryland, recalled Bias was not as happy 678 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 11: go lucky as he approached his senior season. 679 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 27: I saw that he was weighted down. And as time 680 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 27: goes on, you can see I don't want to say 681 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 27: it's less joy, but you can you could you see 682 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 27: that his personality is still there, but you can feel 683 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 27: that he's he's weighted down, like there's something weighing on him. 684 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 3: Now. 685 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 27: He wasn't specific with me about what it was. I 686 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 27: don't think he signed. 687 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 22: Up for. 688 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 27: The weight of you know, the weight of his of 689 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 27: his talent, the weight of you know, the weight of 690 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 27: his gift. 691 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 11: During repeated visits Bias made to Wagner, his high school coach, 692 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 11: Wagner noticed Bias becoming more concerned about increased pressures during 693 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 11: his senior year. We would just we'd walk the halls. 694 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 8: I wouldn't raise the issue used it walls at your 695 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 8: high school. 696 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 17: It wasn't usually wasn't about basketball. 697 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 8: I know at one point where media and other people 698 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 8: started to absorb more. 699 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: Of his time and attention than. 700 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 17: The people that he came from. 701 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 11: Walker Bias's mentor recalled that Bias struggled to find joy 702 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 11: during his senior season due in part to some interest 703 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 11: in turning pro after his junior year. Here's Jeff Baxter 704 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 11: with a different view about Bias during his senior year. 705 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 19: I didn't see him feeling the pressure changes they have 706 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 19: for other changes. It's of him getting fatter, have probably 707 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 19: becoming more vocal. I could be vocal because we were 708 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 19: co captives, but he could be much more imposing, much. 709 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 11: More imposing the suspension of Bias, Baxter and Johnson came 710 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 11: in a challenging time for Maryland. The win against NC 711 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 11: State but Maryland at three and six in the conference 712 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 11: after a loss to Clemson. Maryland needed to win three 713 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 11: of its last four conference games for or a chance 714 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 11: to receive an NCAA bid. Maryland then faced top ranked 715 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 11: North Carolina and Chapel Hill. It would feature two plays 716 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 11: by Bias that defined his career. In a game where 717 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 11: he scored thirty five points. 718 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 9: A crowded more than twenty two thousand, it's no hand 719 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 9: to watch the Tar Heels take on the Maryland Tarrelman. 720 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 11: The signature play of Bias' career came with Maryland down 721 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 11: by nine with just under three minutes remaining in regulation. 722 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 28: At the DVSN sent Bias from outside and he got it. 723 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 9: It was Lenn Bias with twenty nine. 724 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: O one Stay on tail. 725 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 11: What a play by Bias. 726 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 10: Ho Lake Cow and I just stood there for a 727 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 10: little while. Kenny Smith had his back turned as soon 728 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 10: as he threw the ball, and I just came and 729 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 10: anticipated and smacked him down and then came right to 730 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 10: my hands and I was nowhere. 731 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 11: I looked up, I was under the basket. I just 732 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 11: jumped up and regulation ended in a tie. At the 733 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 11: start of overtime, the television announcers felt the need to 734 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 11: acknowledge the effort of Bias so far. 735 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 28: If you joined us late, you've missed one of the 736 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 28: great performances that I certainly I've seen all year. 737 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 9: And I think Danviton Turley made. 738 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 28: Winny Bias thirty three points. He's has been absolutely vegnave 739 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 28: since five rebounds. It's ree assist, couple of blocks in 740 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 28: the steel. I mean he has been abthing. 741 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 11: Bias was not done with his heroics. With Maryland ahead 742 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 11: by one and fifteen seconds remaining in overtime, a defensive 743 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 11: play by Bias secured the win. 744 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 20: Now to Kenny Smith. 745 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 12: Scott Clucks down the ten game. Cluck is down to 746 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 12: hit Tame Smith one on one with Gatlin. 747 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 9: Cutt fights throws it up. 748 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 12: Pluck the way boxer comes down when it dribbles out 749 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 12: of topic to Bias. Quss Cork to Charles ten seconds 750 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 12: hamad in mine of course Cork. 751 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 6: Custer bucks to. 752 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 9: The tops one ups up number one Bock Carolina. 753 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 11: Dan Bonner has been an analyst on college basketball broadcast 754 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 11: since nineteen eighty one. He worked that game and vividly 755 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 11: remembers that play. 756 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 17: As he went up to block that shot, it was 757 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 17: down close to the basket. 758 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 7: I distinctly heard in my year through. 759 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 3: The mic that was trying to get effects. I heard 760 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 3: him say give me that. 761 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 18: And I thought that that was in this particular situation 762 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 18: that sort of defined for me the type of game 763 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 18: he had. 764 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: He basically told North Carolina throughout that entire game, even. 765 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: Though they trailed most of the game. 766 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 15: Basically, his actions during the game were telling them give 767 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 15: me that. 768 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 6: And you know, in those days and you don't do 769 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 6: it anymore, But when I was growing up. 770 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 3: We didn't have AAU. That's what guys did all the time. 771 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 3: When they blocked your shot, they would yell, give me that. 772 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 3: And so it just impressed me that here in this situation. 773 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 25: In this moment, and everybody knew it was a big 774 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 25: moment that this would holler out give me that. 775 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 11: The performance by Bias and the win over North Carolina 776 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 11: wasn't even his most dominant game of the season. In 777 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 11: January that year, Bias scored Maryland's first ten points and 778 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 11: ended with forty. One game against Duke, he made fourteen 779 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 11: of twenty field goals in all thirteen of his free throws. 780 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 11: Jay Billis was a senior at Duke that year and 781 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 11: he remembers that game very well. 782 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 6: The memory was, we couldn't stop him, and guys were 783 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 6: coming back to the bench saying, I'm trying to foul him. 784 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 7: I can't even fowl him. We knew how good he was. 785 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 6: Our players were ever in awe of anyone you know, 786 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 6: there were only a few players that I heard our 787 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 6: best players talk about with reverence back then. 788 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 7: One was Jordan, the other was Bias. 789 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 11: After Maryland beat Virginia at home, when the last game 790 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 11: of the regular season, Virginia coach Terry Holland called it 791 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 11: Lenny Bias Knight. Bias had extra motivation in the game. 792 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 11: In the game against Virginia earlier in the season, Olden 793 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 11: Polynice blocked a Bias shot. He then pointed at Bias 794 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 11: as he lay on the ground. Bias got his revenge 795 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 11: late in the first half, and the rematch on March first. 796 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 9: Andrew Kennedy inside the Plony mister Shot got his own rebound. 797 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 11: Kevin Shean, a sportscaster and the Washington DC area, attended 798 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 11: that game. He explained what happened on his podcast during 799 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 11: an interview with Dave Ungrady, a producer of this podcast series. 800 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 12: And he played his final game at cole against Virginia. 801 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 12: Olden Polonies put up a shot and I was very close. 802 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 15: To the crews. 803 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 7: I want to play. 804 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 12: Like that, And you heard Leonard go up in Snaggett 805 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,919 Speaker 12: mid air and say get that shit out of here, 806 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 12: and he. 807 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 7: Threw it into the fourth row, jo. 808 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 9: Len Bias intimidate Polonies first shot and then block the 809 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 9: next one. 810 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 11: Unbelievable. 811 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 7: See Quinton Jones. 812 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 3: Cappy it off. 813 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 11: Is letton Polonies. 814 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 3: Know who did it? 815 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 11: Said Bias after the game, I had to block his 816 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 11: shot and put it in his face. After the last game, 817 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 11: everybody had asked me why I had let him do 818 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 11: that to me. Bias scored twenty two points in that game. 819 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 11: A week later, Maryland lost a sixth ranked Georgia Tech 820 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 11: in an ACC semifinal. In an NCAA tournament first round 821 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 11: win over Pepperdine, Bias scored twenty six points, breaking Maryland's 822 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,919 Speaker 11: season scoring record that he had set the prior year. 823 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 11: Bias scored thirty one points in a second round loss 824 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 11: to UNLV. Afterward, in an image that foretold his future, 825 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 11: he sat in his locker, towel over his head, his 826 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 11: face buried in his hands. I felt we could have 827 00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 11: gone a lot further, he said to the boy. 828 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 14: Next. 829 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: On Lembia's a mixed Legacy Barnstormer and Boston. 830 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 11: I was a big fan of Lenny Bise. 831 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: I just loved his game. 832 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 18: He was a great drawl because you know he was 833 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 18: just some SLAMA player. 834 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 22: He said. 835 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 17: He said, I'm not interested in he said, there's something 836 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 17: about him that concerns me. 837 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 22: I really was hoping that it was Boston and my 838 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 22: dream came through. 839 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 27: That was what our biggest part of the pitch was 840 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 27: that he would be our guy. Really and then he 841 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 27: just said, yeah, I can't. I wish my mom was 842 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 27: part of this, Like I can't wait to get home 843 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 27: and see my mom. 844 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: This podcast series is based on the book Born Ready, 845 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: a mixed Legacy of Lemba's, published by Go Grady Media. 846 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: The series is produced by Go Grady Media in partnership 847 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: with Octagon Entertainment. This segment was produced by Dave Ngrady 848 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: and Don Marcus. It was written by Dave Grady and 849 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: edited by Don Marcus. The narrator was Rich Daniel, with 850 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: additional narration Jamal Williams. Technical production was provided by Octagon Entertainment. 851 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: Production assistance was produced by Kevin mcnelty, Tino Quagliata, Lauren Ross, 852 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: Georgia Brown, Casey Fair, Jamal Williams, Kelsey Mannox and Enzo 853 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: al Varrengo. Matt Doherst is providing the social media assistance 854 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: special thanks to the University of Maryland and American Universities 855 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: of providing insights. The Decision Education Foundation is a content 856 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: and promotional partner of this podcast series. More information go 857 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: to do gradymedia dot com. This has been a production 858 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: of Go grading Media and the Eighth Side Network