WEBVTT - Dean on the Beach 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.360 Good Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared and I heart 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.880 radio podcast What is Up Planet Earth? Thank you so 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.680 much for tuning into another episode of help I Suck 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.520 at Dating. It's your one of your hosts, you know, Glair. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.040 I was gonna say your favorite host, but then I 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.079 just felt weird saying that, because I'm definitely the third 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.440 favorite host of basically everyone on this podcast, joined by 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:30.040 Vanessa Grimaldi. No, you're still number one. No, I think 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.559 that we all because I think I think we all 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.680 should just concede to the idea that we're the third 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.160 favorite hosts. Right, There's never a first or second, We're 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:41.440 always just the third favorite. Yeah. Anyways, me and Vanessa 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.479 just us to today. Jared had more important things to 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.960 be doing apparently, I guess he's in Italy with his 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:54.800 wife or something like that. So crazy. They left the 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.960 day after their wedding, right, they left yesterday. Their wedding 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.600 was Sunday, so they left the day after their wedding, 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.480 Which is that uncommon? Do you typically stay in the 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:04.760 area for a little bit and then go on your 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.360 honeymoon or no? I think like old school. Um, I 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:09.880 remember when I used to go to weddings when I 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.200 was a lot younger, people would leave in the middle 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.399 of their wedding day, like their wedding night. They would 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.840 jump on a flight and go after their modding. But yeah, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.319 I'm telling you this is what this is what would 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.520 happen like back into the day. And now it's more 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.199 common for people I find to want to save money 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.640 and then leave for their honeymoon, either like a year after, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.720 a couple of months after, not directly after the after 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.399 the wedding. But I mean, I just remember because I 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.959 guess I saw like a headline or something saying that 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.080 Jared and actually leave the day after their wedding for 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.600 their honeymoon, and I thought that that was weird that 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.720 that would be a headline. And so I guess I 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.160 just kind of assumed that if you got let's say 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:47.800 you got married on a Sunday, you would basically let 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.160 me just stay in that town until like a Tuesday 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.680 or Wednesday and then embark on your honeymoon. But it 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:53.720 sounds like, oh, I guess it sounds like what you're saying, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.840 you either leave the night of the wedding or you 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.160 leave a year later. I don't know. You hear a 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.960 bunch of different things. Is like we do it differently 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.080 in Montreal or maybe in the culture and our culture, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.160 we give money at the wedding. We don't give gifts. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.800 So everyone paid like two dollars ahead. If you're bringing 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.800 me a date, you're paying four hundred dollars, so you're 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.919 paying twenty dollars a person. I'm gonna be honest, I 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.760 didn't get Jared An actually a wedding gift. And now 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.840 that what Now, Now, I'm just realizing that that that 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.280 might have kind of messed up with me to do. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.400 I just realized, but you know, you kind and say 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.360 that you forgot to give it to them because you 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.960 were out of town. Well, and now that they're going 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.280 to know this, but you can get them something after 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:36.880 and just be like, oh, I just want to surprise 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.560 you guys when you were back from your honeymoon. Not big, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.880 not big on the idea a lin to my friends Vanessa. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.840 But I see what I see where you're saying for 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.400 sick of self preservation. Actually, what's funny is I missed 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:47.800 my flight the day that I was supposed to leave 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.040 for their wedding. Yeah, I had a flight out of 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.000 l a X. And I swear my alarmed everyone off. 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.080 I said it for three third am. I woke up 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.680 and it was like eight am, and I looked over 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.040 and I was like, it's way too bright for it 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.560 to be three three d am right now. And I 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.280 looked at my phone and it was eight am, and 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.080 I was I was freaking out. I texted Jared right 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.400 away and I said, hey, man, my flight got delayed 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.840 and we got redirected. Actually, Funny asked to say this 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.280 because I just said I wouldn't lie to Jared, and 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.320 actually I said I don't want to stress him the 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.840 day or a couple of days before the wedding, right exactly. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.959 So I was like, my flight got delayed, got redirected. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.440 I'm now flying into Boston instead of Providence. I now 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:27.040 get in at ten pm instead of six pm. And yeah, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:28.280 so I had to like jump on the internet book 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.480 a one way to Boston instead of my flight to Providence, 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.560 which actually, like it sucked and I had to pay 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.360 obviously some extra money to get on that flight, but 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.760 it all worked out. It works out. I want to know, Ye, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.200 did the Jonas brothers show up to their wedding? Yeah 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.920 you didn't hear? No? No? Did they for real. Where 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.080 did you hear that? I thought that was kind of 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.200 like under wraps. You're such a liar. Where did you 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.720 hear that? I'm curious. I'm just saying because I feel 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.720 like Jonas Brothers and Ashley it's like synonymous with each other. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:58.800 So I figured they might show up to their wedding. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.120 Jonas Brothers, Rob Thomas was there. Taylor Swift showed up 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.880 halfway through the night. Okay, you're making me feel like, well, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.560 I did have the worst weekend, but now you're making 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.400 me feel like I I'm just kidding. With SA none 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.200 of that happens, but I mean it would be awesome 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.360 with the Jones brothers showed up, I think, I don't. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.200 I don't know. There were some great live musical performances 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.159 by people that their names escaped me. But um, it 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.760 was a beautiful wedding the night before actually, so we 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.200 did like O huh, yeah, it was, Oh my gosh, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:29.400 your dresses were unbelievable the night before. So she had 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.520 a rehearsal dinner dress. On Saturday, she had her of course, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:37.840 her her ceremony dress, and then her reception dress. Right, 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.000 so three dresses, but maybe more, I don't know. Exactly 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.840 what she did. But um, Saturday wasn't a good night. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.719 We had like a rehearsal dinner. We It's it's funny 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.520 because they used that time for like the groomsmen and 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.479 the bridesmaids to give speeches because they're like, we don't 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.400 want to like give fifteen speeches the night of the 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.080 wedding at the at the dinner party, and so all 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.360 the bridesmaids had days to prepare for this. They kind 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.200 of knew it was all coming. And then literally like 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.680 five minutes before it happened, the wedding planner came up 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.200 to me, Ben and Nick and they go, hey, uh, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.239 you guys are gonna give a speech in five minutes. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:11.599 Are you okay with that? And we all looked at 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.600 each other and you go. We were like, well, well, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.400 why didn't you just tell us as sooner? And so 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.680 Ben went first, and Ben, in natural Ben Higgins form, 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:24.200 delivers a beautiful impromptu, off the cuff speech. Like people 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.919 were literally crying and tearing up in the audience listening 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.400 to Ben speech. And then Nick went and Nick started 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.320 crying in the middle of his speech, and it was 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.080 a great speech. I attributed to his acting ability I 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.560 don't know if you know, if the tears were real, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.919 but regardless, he sold it and he crushed it. And 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.760 then I end ago after Ben Higgins and Nick by All, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:47.560 and I gave the worst possible speech imaginable, and I 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.520 was like, maybe if I had more time, I guess, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.039 if I had more time to prepare, I would feel 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.440 even more guilty for doing a bad job. At least 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:54.960 like this way, I kind of have an excuse. But 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.800 the rehearsal didn't went well. And then the next day well, actually, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.640 then we went out that and I to the bars 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.240 like Jared's last night as a single man, quote unquote, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.160 you know what I mean. And there was like me, Jared, Ben, Nick, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.279 Becca Tilly, Tanya Ashley didn't come with us, but we 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.120 all went to the bars, like the local bars in Newport. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.760 I think we were at a place called O'Brien's or 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:18.240 something like that. And I don't really like drink alcohol 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.560 much anymore, but it was Jared's like last night as 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.799 a single man, So I was like buying shots for everyone. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.080 I was like, Jared, you're taking the shot at tequila. Ben, 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:26.800 you're taking the shot of vodka, and I'm like taking 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.640 shots with them every single time, and I got the 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.240 drunk is I've been in a long time. And I 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.880 had slept in until like three pm the following day 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.520 the wedding, which is the day of the wedding, right, 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.479 so the ceremony started around like five ish. I slept 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.280 until three pm, just so hungover. I thought I was 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.120 gonna like throw up a couple of times the morning after, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.839 sitting in bed and Ben like had to come knock 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.960 on the door a couple of times. He goes dean man, like, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.640 you gotta get up, you gotta go take pictures with 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.160 the groom has been the bridal party, all this kind 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.520 of stuff, and I'm just sitting in bed, like just 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.960 please leave me alone. I just need to be left 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.360 alone in darkness for a little bit. I was like 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.600 sitting in my bed like fetal position, child's posts for 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.400 a little bit, like trying to keep everything inside of me. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:04.800 Um so that the day of the wedding got off 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.480 to a rough start for me. And again I attribute 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.600 that to just I think my goal was to get 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.840 Jared as drunk as possible, But what I did was 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.160 to get myself as drunk as possible, And that was 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.960 just that was a silly mistake. Um. And then the 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.960 wedding came and the ceremony was fantastic. We did we did. Uh. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.000 It was actually interesting because typically when you go to 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.200 a wedding, right, like the groomsmen and the bridesmaids all 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.160 stand up at the altar with the bride and groom right. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.120 But at this wedding, it was just the best man, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.440 which was Jared's father, and just the maid of honor, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.800 which was Ashley's sister, and then all the groomsmen and 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.840 all the bridesmaids were sitting down. I have a question 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.520 because I saw I don't remember whose story Ashley's father 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.640 was roasting Jared. Yeah. Yeah, I think everyone was kind 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.560 of resting Jared a little bit. That's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.160 I think he has the right to be rested. You know, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.840 he waited three and a half years to figure out 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.880 exactly who he wanted to marry, and then I guess 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.240 it all worked out for them obviously at the end 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.400 of the day. And it is funny. It's like Becca 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.200 and I think a couple other people said they were like, 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:05.080 this is the most beautiful love story ever, and part 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.400 of you is like, well, yeah, It's absolutely phenomenal and 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.880 so beautiful, and I'm so happy that they because what 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.720 Ben said, actually that really struck a chord. I think 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.200 that really made a lot of people cry. As he 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.320 was saying it was like, if if you were to 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.760 ever look at these two people, Ashley and Jared, you 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.320 would know that there are two people that were like 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.080 supposed to end up together, right, and so it's like 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.720 great obviously see them that time than not. Um, But 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:26.800 it's just they didn't really maybe have the most traditional 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.160 path to get where they got to. Um. But then 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.040 the wedding was great, went went off without a hitch. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.640 There were some dogs that ran down the aisle as well, 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.199 and then the yeah they had three dogs, but the 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.600 ring bearers I think. And then the reception was great too. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.760 It's this beautiful estate in Rhode Island. I think it 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.280 was something, oh, I can't remember the name of it, 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.160 but it was this beautiful, big manner and yeah, I 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.760 mean it seemed it seemed to go off without a hitch. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.079 I think that they're pretty happy with how it all went. Um. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:53.679 It was a big wedding. I haven't really been to 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.640 many weddings, but there was like two people there, which 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.720 seems like a lot. But yeah, that was the wedding. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.880 How was your weekend? Uh? Not the greatest. My grandmother 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.920 passed away. I'm sorry to agree that. Um so it 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.560 was not. Yeah, it was a tough week leading into 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.280 the weekend. But she was ninety one, she was a 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:20.239 fierce she was a fierce lady, and she had Alzheimer's, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.600 so were morning the loss of her once, you know, 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.800 she started losing her memory and it was just a 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.360 matter of time. And but no matter what age, it's 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.319 never easy to say goodbye to love one. So it 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.280 was definitely an emotional weekend and it was no much 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.959 needed family time over the weekend. And uh yeah, it 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.160 was really able to get together for it. Yeah yeah 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.920 in Montreal or yeah exactly. So the week was on 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.959 Friday and then the mass was on Saturday. But it's 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:53.600 a long process. I mean, it's just very emotionally draining. 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.000 And then you know that an you worry about how 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.000 because it was my dad's mother, and then you start 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.480 worrying about your dad's You know, we should worried about 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.600 my dad's health because you know, he was really close 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:06.439 to her. And yeah, I'm really fortunate and I don't 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.200 think a lot of people can say this, but up 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.000 until I went on The Bachelor, I had all four 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.280 grandparents alive. My grandfather passed away on my dad's side 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.560 right before I went on the show, and three years 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.439 later the exact same way between, Like I think it's 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.280 exactly three years my grandmother, my grandmother and my dad's 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:28.079 side passed that passed away, and now, thankfully, knock on wood, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.520 I still have my mom's side with me. So very 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.640 very fortunate. You have to hold on to the to 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.800 the to the memory so that you can keep them 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.320 alive with you. How does how does the Alzheimer's process work? Like? 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.960 How long did your grandmother have it? She started? Um, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.600 I don't think we knew what she had until like 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.679 we started seeing the signs and the symptoms of it. 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.800 And then there's like a stage where you can get aggressive. Um, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.760 and there's a stage where you know, we would open 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.640 the fridge and there would be a shoe in the fridge, 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.160 and then she would hide my grandfather's wallet, and then 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.280 she would like mail things off to different people and 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.040 things were obviously making sense, and we put we placed 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.760 her in a home, and yeah, she was she's been 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.280 in though she was in the home for a couple 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.520 of years and we'd always go visit her, and my 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.199 dad would go twice a day to feed her, and 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.600 we're all very very close. So it's it's sad, very sad. Yeah, again, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:21.679 I don't I don't know much about it, but I 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.160 know it's a horrible disease. But thoughts are with you. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.160 It's hopefully you're able to. I mean, it's good that 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.480 you were able to spend the weekend with your loved 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.560 ones and kind of process it all with them, right right, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.000 Because I was supposed to be in l A. I 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.800 had to work opportunity out in l A. And I 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.439 had to cancel that the morning of when my grandmother 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.040 passed away, and that's when we had to start planning 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.800 all the funeral arrangements. And yeah, Mike said, very very sad, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.760 but like you know, you have to keep them in 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.720 your thoughts and in your memories. But enough about like 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:58.959 this sad stuff. Happy news. Deanie babies is on paradise. Yeah. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.560 I don't know if that's there's in a clause or that, 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.120 but yeah, I mean an appearance today. I gotta say 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.480 Dean is so good at keeping secrets. What do you mean? 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.400 I messaged you. I kept asking you, are you going 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.440 on Paradise? You kept denying it. No, I'm not going. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.199 No I'm not going. I would, and then like at 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.800 one point your phone went off and I'm like, I 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.160 think you're off to Paradise. Good luck, and then you would. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.960 You didn't even reply to that message, so you kept 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.920 the whole Paradise thing a complete secret. I tried to 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.400 do it my best. Yes, I did keep it a secrets. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.120 Today is even the first time I went on Paradise. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.120 I kept it a secret from like all my close friends, 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.920 and they would all like be like, hey, you're going 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.840 to Paradise obviously, right like you're going, You're going, You're going, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:41.960 And the entire time I was like, no, I'm not going. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.400 I'm not going, like it's not for me, it's not 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.320 for me, because I wanted to like people to show 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.840 up to the beach see my friends with them thinking 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.520 that I wasn't going and be like surprised, I'm actually 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.160 coming and I'm here, let's do this, and really knew 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.880 you were going. There's a select few people that knew 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.120 that I was going. I mean, like my very closest 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:03.160 friends and even then like one or two of them maybe, um. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.840 I was even like my my manager didn't really know 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.320 that I was going to She was like, you're going 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.440 are you going to Paradise? You're not going to Paradising? Well, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.400 I don't know, and which is like, in reality, it's 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.680 pretty unprofessional of me to like not tell my manager 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.360 that I'm going on a television show. But I think 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.080 that's kind of what that was my mindset going that 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.040 you're going to be m I A or however longer there. 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.680 I made sure that I had everything that I needed 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.240 to have taken care of to be good for an 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.360 indefinite amount of time. But she wasn't very happy with me. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.040 She goes like, she's like, why didn't you just tell me? 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.280 And I go, well, I don't know. It's kind of 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.280 more fun to keep it a secret from everyone so 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:36.880 you're not alone, I don't. I hope you don't think that. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.439 I was like, oh no, I just feel like, well, 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.480 if you guys have secrets, Dean is definitely the one 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.600 to tell them too, because he's a fault. He won't 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.760 let anything out. But I want to asso should we 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.480 talk about you and your date? With Klin first, or 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.000 should we get into the whole Blake scenario. Well, I 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.600 talked about the Blake thing on Almost Famous podcast last week, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.520 and I'm kind of blaked out, but I would still 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.640 love to hear your opinion. I think that I'm curious 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.040 to hear your side of things. Okay, So I only 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.960 watched the last two episodes tonight and last night, and 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.120 I'm kind of sad that I missed out. What was 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.840 it too that I only missed two episodes if I 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.959 only watched these two. Okay, so I didn't watch last week. Um, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.120 but yeah, I kind of got my I kind of 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:26.480 got updated. I personally know Blake and he doesn't have 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.040 a He's not a bad person. He can't feel like, oh, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.600 Blake is a level of black right I for me, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.000 I can't personally say that about him. So to see 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:42.320 that he's, you know, had fun with multiple women in 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.000 the franchise alone, yeah, of course you're going to have 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.280 a bad reputation. Of course, it's like you're gonna be 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.320 placed in this like really uncomfortable situation, especially if you're 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.160 back on the show wanting to date. In this case, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.640 it was multiple women, and now he's been on this 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.800 On this episode, he's into Hannah, which is all very 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:06.520 confusing to me. Um. I think for me it's I 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.360 feel like, well, not that you could relate to this, 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.640 and not that I want to bring this back up, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.119 but you were in a love triangle last year on Paradise, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.400 and Blake is in a whole other scenario with multiple 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.960 women now. I think like, when you're in a bad spot, 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.560 you're you're constantly trying to dig to get yourself out, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.600 but you're digging, and you'll just keep digging yourself a 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.600 deeper and deeper hole. And I feel like that's where 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.880 kids at this point. Yeah, I agree, And that's kind 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.240 of how I feel too. I don't think Blake's a 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.080 bad person. That kind of like I'll echo basically what 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.920 I said last week on the Almost Famous podcast. I 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.400 don't think he's a bad person. I don't think he 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:44.480 has I don't think he's acting maliciously or malevolent malevolently. 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:51.360 I just think that he is trying. I don't even 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:56.120 know he's made a lot of bad decisions, right, Okay, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.560 I will say and I was like, well, why would 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.720 you do this? When I saw this on his stories. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.600 I'm not going to call you out or anything real quick. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.240 But I noticed that one of my co hosts liked 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:13.320 his post on Instagram, which posts reflecting his actions in 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.920 Paradise this season so far. Oh, I probably just like 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.360 the picture. I don't read captions. Well, it was a 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.600 picture of words, but it's okay. Look I got at 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.760 your team Blake. That's fine toom anyone listen. I think 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.720 like when, like i've I, Blake was in Montreal not 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.120 too long ago, and he just looked very, very sad, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.280 and I felt for him because I think he was 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.360 very nervous with what was to come with the show. Um, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.160 but I wasn't team Blake. When he posted the instant 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.080 the screenshots of his conversations with Kalen, that was a 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.640 big violation of privacy. That's rod of the line to 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.680 like defend yourself, say what you gotta say, but don't 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.840 just don't screenshot and share private text messages. That was 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.440 I thought, is the illegal. I feel like it might 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.080 be even illegal to be doing something like that, but 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.639 a violation of privacy, And I felt like he was 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.640 his up against the wall and he didn't know how 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.480 else to defend himself. But that was not the way 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.359 he should have gone about it. And that's that's what 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.200 That's the way I feel as well. You're allowed to 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.359 defend yourself, go to whatever length you need to defend yourself, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.440 just don't go to that length. Yeah, And I think 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.439 that that seems to be kind of what most of 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.760 the people that I've talked to fields as well, Like, 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.960 I don't know, Blake has made a lot of questionable decisions. 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.919 The people that he's involved with in Paradise maybe have 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.480 made some questionable decisions as well. The point is we 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.120 all do dumb stuff and questionable stuff. It's but it's 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.760 like how you react to those things, and it's like 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.600 what you what are you going to do to maybe 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.160 improve and not make those same mistakes again. But by 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.639 publicizing private texts for millions of people to see is 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.200 not really the way to go about, um saving face 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.560 or explaining yourself of the story. And it's funny you 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.240 see you see interviews by like Chris Harrison or obviously 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.200 me last week, and I guess I really haven't seen 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.160 any other like cast members or people from the show 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.680 speak out about it. But the people that I've talked 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.840 to you privately are all like, yes, he has every 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.439 right to defend himself, but he never should have released 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.880 those text messages, right, never. Yeah, and even if you're 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.199 releasing text messages, there's a whole other part of a 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.119 conversation that you're not showing, So like you can't just 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.840 pick and choose whatever pieces of a text message that 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.679 you want to display text conversations. And on top of that, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:34.000 there's probably phone conversations, facetimes, in person conversations, that type 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.840 of stuff. Yeah, so I think we're kind of on 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.240 the same page with that. I'm just gonna say that 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.120 you're team Dean and this one. I'm gonna go out 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.439 and I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Whoever 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.560