WEBVTT - Overnight Guthrie UPDATE:  New Search, New Note, DNA Found, and 3 Reportedly Detained 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Saturday, February fourteenth, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a night of activity in the Nancy Guthrie case. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of that activity just wrapping up as we are recording

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<v Speaker 1>this morning on what is now two full week since

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<v Speaker 1>the last time anyone saw Nancy Guthrie with that. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about a night of police activity, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was also a day of updates. Not quite the break bro,

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<v Speaker 1>but just some continued odd happenings, including TMZ getting another damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Note, Yeah, another note from TMZ. Police activity at a

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<v Speaker 2>home near Guthrie, at a home near Guthrie's home, and

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<v Speaker 2>then now there's also word about DNA at the home.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of clues are piling up, but we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the clue that everybody is waiting for that

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<v Speaker 2>will lead us to where Nancy Guthrie is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get you updated here, folks. First again, overnight hours,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking one to two in the morning, their local

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<v Speaker 1>time media at least started to notice activity, and in

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<v Speaker 1>particularly it was happening in two different places. One was

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<v Speaker 1>a home about two miles away, another was at a

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle that police are looking into I guess roads. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first with the home that's about two miles away.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know whose home this is. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why police were there, but robes even the police have

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<v Speaker 1>come out and said in an official statement from Pima

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<v Speaker 1>County acknowledging that yes, there is activity related to the

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they I believe, spent about four hours, according to

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<v Speaker 2>local reporters, inside that home searching it. And according to

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<v Speaker 2>the local Fox affiliate, they are reporting that sources have

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<v Speaker 2>told their newsroom that three people have been detained. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any official word, No authorities have come out

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<v Speaker 2>and confirmed that, but that is certainly getting picked up

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<v Speaker 2>and circulated all around the media now.

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<v Speaker 1>And again there's a lot of we've talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>so the void, I guess, not being a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>official information sometimes and folks are filling in the blanks.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one is a little different, and we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pass this along because it is coming from Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>these are sources, and they're citing several sources, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from Fox News. Fox News Digital is reporting this.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a legitimate agency that's worth taking note of.

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<v Speaker 1>They can just put out some bs. So to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that Robes after what the door dash guy was detained

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week. They said to us in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>you could probably expect more detainments.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a really good point of perspective. So it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that anyone has been arrested, doesn't mean they

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<v Speaker 2>found their guy.

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<v Speaker 3>They have said, this is very I guess in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a case, which is highly unusual, this is

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<v Speaker 2>fairly to be expected that you have to go through

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<v Speaker 2>this process of going after leads, following leads, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that means detaining people to question them, to dig a

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<v Speaker 2>little deeper. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the case, but they have to follow all leads and

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<v Speaker 2>where it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, and you will see folks plenty of places that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that will be the headline that three people were detained.

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<v Speaker 1>Nowes we caution by saying, yes, if they're checking something out,

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<v Speaker 1>you detain someone just meaning you almost just put them

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<v Speaker 1>in a corner. Sometimes you put it in handcuffs, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're under police detainment. The Robes, yeah, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>official word about these folks. They could have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it, and they could have everything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. We actually don't know either way at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>but Fox News is reporting that this was two men

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<v Speaker 1>and a woman, one of their moms actually involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this particular case. But that is what sources are telling

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News. The other thing robes, at least for the

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<v Speaker 1>searches go before we get to the TMZ note a

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<v Speaker 1>different location, a range rover was being checked out. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what any of that means, but they did that

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<v Speaker 1>thing again where they put up coverings and tarps and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want people to see their work. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that they have taken it was a range rover

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<v Speaker 1>that they took away as a part of this investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Again what any of that means, But robes, tens of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands now of leads have come in.

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<v Speaker 3>This work is meticulous, My goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the FBI says they have received thirteen thousand tips,

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<v Speaker 2>and the local Pima County Sheriff's Department says they've received

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thousand tips. Hard to get your head around what

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<v Speaker 2>that involves in terms of police work and the man

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<v Speaker 2>hours and how you cannot just disregard any one lead.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to follow every single one of them and

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<v Speaker 2>see where it takes you, and now, yes, fourteen days

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<v Speaker 2>into this investigation, it does seem like there is finally

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<v Speaker 2>some activity. Who knows if it'll lead to something, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is the most activity I would say we have

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<v Speaker 2>seen since the search began. The Pima County Sheriff's Department

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<v Speaker 2>did put out a statement. It didn't say much, but

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<v Speaker 2>they just acknowledge, yes, law enforcement activity is underway at

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<v Speaker 2>a residence they gave the address related to the Guthrie case.

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is a joint investigation at the request of

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI, no additional information is currently available.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is the latest official word as of this recording,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very early morning here on Saturday on the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast at least, but yea, as we're recording this,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still early morning hours there in Tucson. Will wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see if more information comes of that. But so

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<v Speaker 1>much information robes and we don't know if it is

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<v Speaker 1>legit or not. Is coming from TMZ that has now

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<v Speaker 1>gotten at least five notes, two from someone claiming to

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<v Speaker 1>be the kidnapper trying to negotiate a ransom, and now

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<v Speaker 1>three robes we have a new one, three from someone

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<v Speaker 1>claiming to know who the kidnapper is but they want

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<v Speaker 1>money first. But now Robes they have changed how much

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<v Speaker 1>money they want and how they want to be paid.

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<v Speaker 2>That means we know that at least this person is

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<v Speaker 2>following the news, and that's about as far as we

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<v Speaker 2>can take it. So there is yes, a new demand

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<v Speaker 2>for money. Remember this person who sent this initial email

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<v Speaker 2>said they wanted one bitcoin, which is roughly sixty six

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<v Speaker 2>sixty seven dollars. It was a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>head scratcher because of the FBI reward, and once it

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<v Speaker 2>was doubled to one hundred thousand, well that might have

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<v Speaker 2>prompted the new email, where now he says he wants

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<v Speaker 2>the one hundred thousand dollar reward. He says he wants

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars now and fifty thousand dollars after, and

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<v Speaker 2>he promises, I won't withdraw the fifty thousand until you

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<v Speaker 2>make that arrest.

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<v Speaker 3>That I am promising you. I can lead you straight.

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<v Speaker 2>To what what he's negotiating with the reward money, with

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<v Speaker 2>team information.

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<v Speaker 1>With Harvey Levin, What is going on now? If this

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<v Speaker 1>person the only thing that lends Roe there seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be trying to follow this through. But why are they

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Why are you playing this game and keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the family in pain? Unless maybe this person is not

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<v Speaker 1>only up and up either or is this person just

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<v Speaker 1>a complete clown trying to get some money.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either one of those too, because yes, he if

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<v Speaker 2>this this person is legit, let's just operate from that theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he or she is obviously stating that there are

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<v Speaker 2>reasons for them to be concerned to come forward with

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<v Speaker 2>this information, and so they need to, as they put earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>lay low to avoid any actual physical harm. Is what

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like. They were concerned for their safety. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is strange. Why not negotiate directly with the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they don't trust police. Maybe they're afraid that the

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<v Speaker 2>police would just arrest them and not give them the money,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they think if they involve TMZ, they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a public eye on what's going on, and there'll be

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of oversight in the process of them giving

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<v Speaker 2>this information. That's the only thing I can think of

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<v Speaker 2>other than it being a complete and total charlatan who's

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<v Speaker 2>just making a money grab or an attention grab.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're not doing this out of the goodness of

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<v Speaker 1>their heart. That's fair right to say, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>just I want to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not going to suggest, but there

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be a way to anonymously rat this person

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<v Speaker 1>out without you having to get involved at all. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want the money, fine, But are they that fearful

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<v Speaker 1>of whoever this other person is and that that other

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<v Speaker 1>person knows them and will know that it was you

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<v Speaker 1>that rated me out? Is that because to say, oh

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<v Speaker 1>the note, at least according to Harvey Levin, this person said,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't, you know, take the money until an arrest

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<v Speaker 1>is made, as if they're waiting to know this person

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<v Speaker 1>is off the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that is what it would appear to imply.

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<v Speaker 2>But again we're reading between the lines and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have all the information. Harvey Levin made it clear, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is understandable. They turned over these emails to the police,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they have been asked not to disclose some

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<v Speaker 2>of the details. He only described, at least in one

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<v Speaker 2>of the emails those details as being chilling, But we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly what he put in these emails.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it seem to you that Harvey was taking these

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<v Speaker 3>emails very seriously?

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<v Speaker 1>It did to me, I mean they have to. He

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<v Speaker 1>has to. I mean he's seen the language more so

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<v Speaker 1>than we have. But any the stuff he's passed along

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<v Speaker 1>talking about her condition, that things have changed, that tones

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<v Speaker 1>have changed. You just use the word chilling. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>are you dealing with the real deal. No one has

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed whether any note sent in is from someone that

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<v Speaker 1>they credibly believe is involved in this case, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is just a mix of a mess, whereas the other

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<v Speaker 1>at least highlight here is that this latest writer who

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<v Speaker 1>claims to know who the kidnapper is suggests there's more

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<v Speaker 1>than one, and this is there are accomplices here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, this was a disturbing part of the email

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<v Speaker 2>that Harvey leven shared said that he will give information

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<v Speaker 2>for the manhunt of the main individual that can give

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<v Speaker 2>you all the answers and be prepared to go international.

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<v Speaker 1>It's several folks in the non in the US. What

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<v Speaker 1>is what the suggestion is.

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<v Speaker 2>The story just keeps getting more and more bizarre if

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<v Speaker 2>any of this is even.

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<v Speaker 1>True, If this could be someone clowning trying to take advantage,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a bizarre way to go about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>other major thing robes again a confirmation just one step,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't give us the next one. They say

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<v Speaker 1>there was somebody else in the house, and they know

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<v Speaker 1>that now because of DNA being found in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any idea who they hell it belongs to.

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<v Speaker 2>So the DNA didn't lead to anyone already in the system,

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<v Speaker 2>according to police, they say, it didn't lead anyone to

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<v Speaker 2>the suspect. But what it did do, and this has

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<v Speaker 2>got to be significant for the Guthrie family. It confirmed

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<v Speaker 2>that it was from someone other than obviously Nancy Guthrie,

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<v Speaker 2>but also confirmed that it was from someone other than

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<v Speaker 2>anyone close to her.

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<v Speaker 3>And so much suspicion.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been loosely and sometimes directly pointed towards members of

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<v Speaker 2>Guthrie's family. We certainly saw that early on in the investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>rumors people saying sources close to the investigation were pointing

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<v Speaker 2>the finger at some of Savannah's family members. This DNA

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<v Speaker 2>would seem to point in the other direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have the same thing. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>was the DNA, Where was it found? Was it blood?

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<v Speaker 1>Was its salava? Was saliva? Was it something else from

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<v Speaker 1>who know where? Was in the kitchen, in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>in the living room, where there could have been a guest,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just don't know who. We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like at times they don't either, which is

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<v Speaker 1>perplexing in this case. But remember, folks, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>week of big breaks in the case, and they continue

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<v Speaker 1>to push who the suspect could be, at least giving

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<v Speaker 1>us some of the details as far as height and build.

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<v Speaker 1>Will remind you of that in just a moment. Also

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of additional info from police telling us

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get any additional info. We'll explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Say here I continue here on Amy and TJ on

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<v Speaker 1>this Saturday, February fourteenth, just getting up to some element

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<v Speaker 1>in the Nancy Guthrie case. Butes the developments we've gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got one short tweet from the PMA County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's Department. We see activity going on. We just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that range Rover that was taken into custody and

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<v Speaker 1>this home that's a couple of miles away from Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Guthrie's home that they raided, and Fox News reporting three

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<v Speaker 1>people detained with ROMs. That's the information we have. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>expect anymore. I am still surprised at how little they

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<v Speaker 1>are updating the media.

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<v Speaker 3>It is remarkable. Part of me thinks, well, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That means they have so much information, they have so

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<v Speaker 2>many tips, they're having to focus solely on the investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't want to or even need to give

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<v Speaker 2>the media any additional information to further their investigation. So

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<v Speaker 2>that could be a good thing in the sense that

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<v Speaker 2>they have enough to go on, enough to work through

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't need the media's help, which hopefully would

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<v Speaker 2>indicate they're getting closer to finding Nancy Guthrie and who

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<v Speaker 2>ever took her. That would be the only positive note

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But it is perplexing and frustrating to people

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<v Speaker 2>who want to at least be up to date on

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<v Speaker 2>where things stand.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, and we talked about this earlier, that they

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<v Speaker 1>came out the gate, we have to find this lady

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty four hours, and then they settled into an investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>which through me, which made me think that they're being

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<v Speaker 1>quiet because they are actually legitimately negotiating behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that doesn't seem to be no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wonder, Look, we'll get all of what was

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<v Speaker 2>actually happening. I'm sure once there is a conclusion to

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<v Speaker 2>all of this, but for now, part of what has

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<v Speaker 2>captivated and captured the attention of this case around the

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<v Speaker 2>world is that there are just so many huge, glaring

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<v Speaker 2>holes in question marks.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing makes sense. A motive doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a financial one, seemingly, it doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a vindictive one. It doesn't seem there is even

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional one. It literally makes zero sense.

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<v Speaker 1>All we know is a man in a mask who's

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<v Speaker 1>five nine to five to ten with an average bill,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a backpack on that sold exclusively at Walmart,

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<v Speaker 1>showed up on her doorstep. And an eighty four year

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<v Speaker 1>old woman who is the mother of a Today Show

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<v Speaker 1>host has vanished off the pl face of the earth. Vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>She one man shows up, She has vanished robes. We

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<v Speaker 1>cover a lot of cases, We watch a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>true crime. We know how these things go to disappear

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<v Speaker 1>like this. It's difficult to do in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>in robes, to do it when the entire world is

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<v Speaker 1>looking for you. How is this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And to do it to someone who is not mobile,

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<v Speaker 2>to do it to someone who is sickly, to do

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<v Speaker 2>it to someone who is eighty four years old. Never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of that in my life. When you think about

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<v Speaker 2>abductions and kidnappings, sadly, you think about young children, you

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<v Speaker 2>think about young girls, you think about all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, we do watch a lot of true crime,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes we have covered a significant amount of crime

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<v Speaker 2>in our three decades, and we watch a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>horror movies. I have never seen or heard anything like

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<v Speaker 2>this before in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what continues to play out here. We are, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks after the last time that Nancy Guthrie was seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>the search for her goes on. Will continue to keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on this. But a reminder, Yes, the new

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<v Speaker 1>images they put out Suspect five nine to five ten

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<v Speaker 1>with an average bill the reward is now up to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand dollars. But they are not or we

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<v Speaker 1>are not expecting any any press briefings. They say ropes

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<v Speaker 1>until there's a significant development. I guess that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>We know if they say something or plan something is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big deal. But right now to

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<v Speaker 1>think in a case this big that they are being

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<v Speaker 1>very quiet right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that they have been. You can hear a pin

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<v Speaker 2>drop quiet, but I will say, with this latest headline

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<v Speaker 2>now circulating about these three people detained, you gotta think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's going to be some clarification or some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of notification about what has happened overnight so that we

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<v Speaker 2>can know at least there if the leads that they

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<v Speaker 2>are following are potentially bearing fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>You make a good point. We need to caution here

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a possibility that this is the break right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're so used to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hey eight, because detained and release, detained and release

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<v Speaker 1>there it is, and so we have we have not

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<v Speaker 1>gotten word about these folks who have been detained and

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<v Speaker 1>where we go from here. We'll keep an eye on it, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, we appreciate you spending time with us on TJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes on behalf of my dear Amy Roboch. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you soon.