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Speaker 1: protecting Tennessee AND's for seventy five years. I'm Mike Keith

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Speaker 1: joined by my second favorite rat. Yes, my number one

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Speaker 1: ret is Rhett Brian with Titans Radio who's been with

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Speaker 1: NFL Network. I hope you don't take that as an insult.

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Speaker 1: You are my second favorite rat and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: have you on the OTP. Thanks for the time, Mike,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. I am used to being everyone's second

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Speaker 1: favorite rhet because usually everyone's most favorite rhet is, of course,

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Speaker 1: Rhet Butler. But I will, I will take number two.

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Speaker 1: And how many people call you Brett? So many, so

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Speaker 1: many that I stopped correcting. It's that's it's just fine

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Speaker 1: that's what we do to Rhett Brian. We refer to

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Speaker 1: him as Brett Ryan. Many so many people get it wrong.

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Speaker 1: We're just like that. That should be what you change

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Speaker 1: your name to. But anyway, names aside, names are the

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Speaker 1: story of the week as we're about to draft some

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Speaker 1: players in the NFL. And you've been on every show

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Speaker 1: You are the utility man for the Dodgers in terms

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Speaker 1: it been? So here's the thing, Um, I love this

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Speaker 1: down in New Orleans, Mike, So like draft time was

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Speaker 1: our super Bowl. Like I used to skip class, you know,

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Speaker 1: is what I love, the hopefulness of this time. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: got a chance right now, Mike, and these thirty two

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Speaker 1: love college football. I love learning about these players, learning

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Speaker 1: going to go. Your dad is a legendary figure among

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Speaker 1: the Saints. He was the longtime trainer. He's been saving

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Speaker 1: care of the Saints for seemingly a hundred years. Right.

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Speaker 1: He was thirty two years with the Saints. He got

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Speaker 1: we're a football family, Mike, you are a football family. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: talk mas Jim Wyatt, who writes for the Titans at

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans dot com. We referred to him as the

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Speaker 1: legendary Jim Wyatt. Of course, he took thirty five maks

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Speaker 1: on Monday Day of Draft week, and he does this

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Speaker 1: wide scale. So five of the mocks had the Titans

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Speaker 1: Four of the mocks had the Titans taking wide receiver

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Speaker 1: or it does not mean he is not an elite talent,

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Speaker 1: miss something. The medical team missed something in this guy's

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Speaker 1: background and he can't you know, he can't play beyond

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out the medical background of all these players.

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Speaker 1: And there's so much that goes into it, Mike. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the combine, you know, when my dad was going every year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like every MRI machine in Indianapolis is essentially

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Yea, even if it may not be the

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Speaker 1: best business move for the league. They could take it elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: It's the best. It's the best set up because the

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Speaker 1: medical information is the second most valuable part outside of

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Speaker 1: the actual tape, Absolutely right, And some could argue it's

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Speaker 1: it's the most valuable because if you've got a guy

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Speaker 1: that's that's because of medical A lot of times, you know,

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Speaker 1: but um, you know, like there's there's probably you know,

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Speaker 1: Lewis NFL Network. Thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: And I know how busy you are, but fun to

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Speaker 1: and everything go on go on. For those of us

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Speaker 1: week of thea It is so much fun. Um, Mike,

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