1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hey guys. Um, I have been starting it off saying 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: it's Monday, bitch, but I know some of y'all don't 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: get to us to like Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So um, 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: happy day of the week. That's just what I'm gonna say. UM, 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I am super excited about this episode. Um. We are 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: actually sitting across from one of our listeners who emailed 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: us and I loved her story so much I brought 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: her in the studio. But before we get started, y'all 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: know this is horrible decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy b 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: a k A Peg the Stallion, and I am with 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: my lovely co host. Hi, I'm Wheezy, and we have 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: an amazing um guest today where I guess before we do, 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: we'll let let them know a little bit who you 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: are and then we'll get right into the ships. So 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: introduce yourself and let kind of our listeners know your status, 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: not not not that status, but like your um sexual 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: orientation and yeah, she's citizen. No, you're not right here. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're not worried about ice or anything, but 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: um no, just introduce yourself to our audience. Sorry, Okay, 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: all right, So I'm Caroline Tony Um. I write a 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: sex blog called Tales of Tony about my dating life 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: and dating polyamorously no monogamously. And I'm biflexible. Biflexible. What 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: does that mean? That means that I do not need pussy, 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: but I like it. So from time to time it's me. Yeah, 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: like I don't need it, but I like it sometimes. 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: So if I don't, If I don't, I don't know 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: there's a word for that. I didn't know that's my word. 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: I think like fluid maybe fluid, Okay, biflexible, Yeah, okay, 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: I like that explains a lot because I'm definitely bisexual. Yeah. 30 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: See you require more often, like you like it and 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: you want it often and all the time. I think 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: about it a lot. See. So yeah, if it's there 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, we're drunk, we having fun, I'm 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: eat your pussy. But I don't just be like I 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: want to eat sober. Damn, don't come for me. I 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: don't think i'd be sober. But when I drink, I 37 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: really turned gay, Like I like women when I'm drunk. Wait, 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: what what what we you look over there? I'm not 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking like, yeah, I don't think I've been 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: with once over honestly in a threesome. Wow yeah wow, yeah, 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I know now that you said that, I meant I 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: might need to think about this. This may be something 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: I need to bring up in therapy. Now I can 44 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: have pussy at two pm. Yeah yeah, no, not me. 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie like so this may be because 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: day drinking happens in a two pm. It's funny. It's 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: funny because I'm starting like a list of things, like 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: with these conversations, even an episode in conversation we just 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: had of of how I view relationships. I'm literally starting 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: a list of maybe like topics I do want to 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: tackle once I find the right therapist. Um. And especially 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: because I've been talking to Joe a lot and he thinks, 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I do nothing but deflect my problem 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: looms and he's like, you need project or yeah, project 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: to flex whatever he'd be saying. And so even with 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: his patients interviewing, fucking Nicki Minaj, I said, did you 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: learn that from therapy? Because if so, I made the 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: funk up because I think I had, like I was 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: just I could not so before we get into our 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: vanilla ship, I know, y'all are just like, damn y'all, 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Polly biflexible, she eat pussy, okay, but what makes her special? 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Why did y'all bring her on? Because everyone be like, 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: bring me on the show, and wee and I will 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: be like, well, what makes you special? I'm fun, I 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: have sex, I like it a lot. We ever got 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: was a girl that I said, I literally wrote back 67 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: she did what makes you and your best friends so special? 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: She's like, we are just a ball of fun, We 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: are hilarious, we do so much hot ship and everyone 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: thinks we're crazy. And I wanted to write back and say, 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: have you listened to me and Mandy because that's pretty 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: much and what would add to that? She's like, We've 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: just got the stories, that's literally and we were like, 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: no response. Do you really have to to to like 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: seriously like dive in with somebody about like what story? Like, 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: tell me a story. I'm starting this new podcast about 77 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: drunk storytelling and just gathering content. Right. It really comes 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: from people in bars were like, dude, I've got the 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: best story. I'm like, okay, tell me fun. This girl 80 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: she threw up in my apartment. Do you think that's it? 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: That is not that crazy? But people like and that's 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: the thing, like what subjective to crazy? Like, we've had 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: people on here who like like to fuck shoes, right, 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: bottles a hamster blended. Oh god, saw in Jamaica. So 85 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: me and my friends went to a trip we went 86 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: to to makea for my friend's birthday, and we went 87 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: to this nightclub called Shades. Oh you didn't see this 88 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: a hedonism? No? I saw this in Jamaica at a 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,119 Speaker 1: club club, a nightclub, not a sel shrip club whatever. 90 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Sex on stage some lady not her as, but she 91 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: brings out a champagne bottle of sparkling whatever and stix 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: in her vagina that andre and then it goes in 93 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: there and she squirts it out like a fountain of 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: vagina juice mixed pip champagne. It's funny because that's exactly 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: exactly um the pussy show in Thailand. She did it 96 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: with water. But as soon as that bitch started squirting 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: us at the bar, we said, I don't know, we're done. 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: We just wanted to see you maybe pink pongs. We 99 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: didn't than champagne. Yeah, I'm such a bad like pH over, 100 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I don't care about her phs 101 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: champion you ever still for example, like you know when 102 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: you watch something and you're like affected at what's going 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: on with them, like like watching an accident or like 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: watching something that's painful, Like just knowing there's that much acidity. 105 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Think about when you swallow champagne really fast, how you 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: feel that you burp it right up? Like think it 107 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: comes right up? Yeah, just thinking about before again, why 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: um Caroline is or do you want to do Tony? 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Or what Caroline? Okay? While while she is an amazing 110 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: guest and also fits right into the horrible nous of 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: this show, um, one of the things that really pointed 112 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: out to me in her email would you like to 113 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: share it? Am? I okay? With saying okay? So um. 114 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: One of the things that pointed out not only is 115 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: she Polly, not only is she into um the casual 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: dating and having multiple partners and enjoying sex clubs like myself. UM. 117 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: In her blog, she shares that ten years ago she 118 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: found out she was HSV two positive um, which is 119 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: the herpie, the herpie simplex um. And so if you 120 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: guys know, we've already done an episode on her pies, 121 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: So this is not going to be a Herpies episode. However, 122 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: there's so many other things that you can have when 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: you um are out having sex, when you're at sex clubs, 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: if you are in a polly relationship, if you're just 125 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: having sex with one person, you can't catch something. So 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: this conversation will lead more into having that conversation how 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: you open up to your partners, And we're literally going 128 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: to dive in on all the goodness that you guys 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: have even emailed into us on Hey I have this, 130 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: how do I tell my partner? So the first, um, okay, girl, 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you right back. I'm recording my home 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: girls staying at my house while I'm gone. So so 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: further vanilla ship this week. This one I think ties 134 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: to a lot of us, and I wanted to ask 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: you your opinion on this. A sex researcher revealed the 136 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: number of partners that your brain can handle dating at once, 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: So there was apparently a study. It says, with Bumble, 138 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Tender Hinge and various other dating apps at our fingertips, 139 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: the number of eligible romantic partners has become almost too 140 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: high to count. However, according to a sex researcher, endless 141 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: options isn't necessarily a good thing when it comes to dating, 142 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: as our brains can only handle a certain number of partners. Um. 143 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Let me see if they say the actual number of 144 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: partners at said Um, it's of course dealing with getting 145 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: to know multiple people at once having emotional connections to 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: you would say two to three. I think it depends 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: on your emotional capacity. But I know three enough right now? 148 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: I have, you know, beard based scissors and only room 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: for one other person. Really, So here's my question. Because 150 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: they say that the concept of overdating is actually hindering 151 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: someone's chances at finding love, do you feel like these 152 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: dating apps are hindering you, guys from finding love or 153 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: dating multiple partners would hinder you from being in love? No? No, no, 154 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I think that's a really assid and I 155 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: an answer think about Like, I mean, look, I was 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: in sales for what eight years? Literally, it's all a 157 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: numbers game, Okay, you gotta hit it until you get there, right, Like, 158 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't really think that just because I'm not focusing 159 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: on one person I'm but I am also a firm 160 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: believer that like what's meant for me is meant for me, 161 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: Like I don't think that I can make somebody want me. 162 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that, like you know, I could you know, 163 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: work on a relationship to make it better, because in 164 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: the end it might fail because you weren't the person 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: for me. So no, I think when you meet that person, 166 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: you meet them. I also think there's a reason for 167 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: overdating because that one person is probably not satisfying, satisfying 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: all arenas, whereas like we're starting to learn that, like 169 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: through nonmonogamy, you can have a partner or partners that 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: do it all. I mean, that's why I have Beard, 171 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: Bay and scissors and someone else right like that that 172 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm dating, because they all fulfill different areas. So that's 173 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: what um. The dating guru James Priest previously told The 174 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Independent that overdating is counterproductive because rather than focusing on 175 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: someone who might be a great match, you'll be thinking 176 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: about the next ones. So when dating, whether you're polly 177 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: or dating and where you want to be monogamous, if 178 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: you're dating multiple people, do you find that okay because 179 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: this person doesn't satisfy this instead of trying to find 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: a compromise or like you said, you just seek it 181 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: in someone else. Does that seemed counterproductive and trying to 182 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: actually just find love with maybe one person. Like you 183 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. I was monogamous for almost all 184 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: my life. I'm only recently stepped into the polyno monogamous train, 185 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: like this year. Oh yeah, like this year. Um, And 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: even with my relationships and trying so hard to be 187 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: monogamous and trying so hard to be like to find 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: this is gonna be my love of my life, it 189 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: didn't work. There was always something that was missing. It 190 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: was always something that wasn't fulfilling me. There was always 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: something I wasn't happy about with the relationship. I was 192 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: either sacrificing what I truly love for myself to make 193 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: them happy, or they didn't like what I liked to 194 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: Therefore I just kept that to the side. I only 195 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: did things with my friends or only things here, and 196 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: wasn't my full self in the relationship. So I was like, 197 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: I decided that it wasn't for me. Were you raised 198 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: in a household where monogamy was the only relationship option 199 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: that you knew of? I knew, I mean I used 200 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: to watch role sex and I was Robin always knew 201 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: that it was out There was Joe handsOn tot of exactly, 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: but I never adapted it. But I knew whereby young 203 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: that the idea of having one person forever, like whouldn't 204 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: you get bored with that? There was always in the 205 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: back of my mind. But you're told to find one 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: person and be a one person to stable in person forever, 207 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: and being with this virus. Once I contracted, it was like, 208 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: you need to find one person that's the only person 209 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna date for the rest of your life. And 210 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: it was just like, well, this didn't work many times over, 211 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: this was bullshit. So eventually, So who who actually told 212 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: you that when you when you found out that you 213 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: were positive with HSV? I know, like I've I've had 214 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: friends that are like, fuck, I have it now, now 215 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: my dating life is over. Um, were you pretty much 216 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: told you need to find someone else who has it 217 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: now and y'all live happily together and that's it, or like, well, no, 218 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: that's not what happened. So I'll give a little backtrack. 219 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: I was very much a free spirit, as I like 220 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: to call it, prior to contracting her because I was 221 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: living my best life. So yeah, I like to call 222 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: it a free spirit because it just sounds like, you 223 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: can say, but free spirit fish user name. When I 224 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: lived in Orlando that was free spirit for us, and 225 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: years later was like, but they know they know what 226 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: spirit actively single. I also like one of my my 227 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: home girl said that she's like, we're actively single. That's cute. Yeah, 228 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: so pretty much I wasn't. I was in a series 229 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: of like halflings whatever. Then I stopped dated one person 230 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: for a long time. He didn't want to commit, so 231 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: he broke up. Took a long hiatus of just being 232 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: by myself long meaning three months, and I got into 233 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: a relationship with someone on the heels of that breakup. 234 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: That's when I contracted herpes I e. He transmitted herpes 235 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: to me, and I was My response was, are you 236 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: fucking kidding me? For all the people that I fucked, 237 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm sucked, it was when I'm in a relationship that 238 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I contracted sucking virus. So it was it was really 239 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: just a shock to me because I'm like, well that 240 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: if I would have guide it before I would have understood. 241 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that makes sense that I was like, 242 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And then so I didn't necessarily 243 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: go straight into like find me a Herbie's partner, because 244 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that platforms existed, Like there are many 245 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: dating apps, their communities, they're read it's their facebooks where 246 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: if you are positive and you just wanted someone positively 247 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: be easier for yourself, it might be cute, you know 248 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because they were rampant enough people want 249 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: to suck. But even but even our guests um Ella, 250 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: who came on and talked about her experience, contracted it 251 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: the first person she had sex with. So it's like, 252 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're a free spirit, and it 253 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're losing your virginity for the first time. 254 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: It is a virus that's human, and it's a and 255 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it's skin to skin context, So even if you're safe 256 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: with it, even if the person has on a condom, 257 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: if especially we're a whole open orpus down here, and 258 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: if there's anything skin particles that get in and he 259 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: has it, it's very possible regardless if you're safe or not. 260 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: It's so much easier for women to contract because because 261 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: we're more open and right, like we don't really have 262 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: all of our genitals are like more like an internal thing. 263 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: But not only that, I was even telling Benson before 264 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: coming in as much sex as I've had, with as 265 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: many partners as I've had, I probably think the safest 266 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: condom is one that none of us really have used, 267 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: or if have any of y'all used the woman condom before. 268 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: I've used it once. I hated it, did you? It's 269 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: like it literally covers their whole fucking pussy and it's 270 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: like a bag that go. But I haven't used one, 271 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and that's probably the one that would be the safest 272 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: for us as far as contracting. Try to put it on, 273 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: and then we just laughed. Well, the thing is, there's 274 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: where there's two locations where you can contract them. This 275 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean downstairs. It's all called genital. All those called 276 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: oral um or up or whatever wherever have you. I 277 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: actually my virus actually is on the pubic hair region, 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: So a condom doesn't even make a difference specifically versus 279 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: some woman can have an internaternal Yeah, and I don't. 280 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to see thing. God U luckily, but 281 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: like I don't have it there, I have it on top, 282 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: which means that, yeah, really I had to pick. It's 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: like I can, but I can. I know that the 284 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: areas afflicted and I can do what I can to 285 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: prevent transmission. But so in this case, which I'm like 286 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: guessing here, So the lady who does my waxes, right, 287 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: she always like we've I've been on to her for 288 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: a two and a half years. Shout out to Usha. 289 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: She told me, like, you know, make sure that you 290 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: aren't having sex the first day I wax you. Your 291 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: pores are so open, like, do not. She's like, even 292 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: if you know him, She's like, know him, well, yeah, 293 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: that sound a bit, but she was like, even if 294 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: you know him, well, she was like, because it's really 295 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: really bad for bacteria. You're so open, and hair on 296 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: your genitals actually provides a barrier. Oh, yes, it's safe there, 297 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: but I mean, yeah, it's a protection. Yes that I 298 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: didn't know that it's it's to protect you. But it 299 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: also holds smell holds. Yes, I mean I think for 300 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of us it has definitely become a more 301 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: hygiene a thing. But also if you just look at 302 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: the porns, and because a lot of us do wash 303 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: so much, porn, Harry Puss isn't the thing anymore. So 304 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: it's bear. Frankly, I don't like looking at myself with 305 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: hair at least on on like and in the front 306 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: part of my pussy. I'm fine with, like if it 307 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: was like a strip, but like I eat Brazilions every 308 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: three four weeks with my head doesn't go back that 309 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: fast everything three weeks I'm there, and I think that, 310 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting to know that, like with pubic hair, 311 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: so really it's so many men don't shave down there, 312 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: so we mind so what we're supposed to do. We 313 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: threw a lot of mine. I won't live I'm not 314 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: liking your balls. And then for men, like the hair 315 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: sometimes grows even up the shaft, so you'll be thinking 316 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: we came deep throat, No, bitch, we just don't want 317 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: hair balls. Like, yeah, I really did like the dude 318 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: for like, I don't know, maybe two years, a year 319 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: and a half. And I remember he had like this 320 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: mark on the shaft of his dick and I was like, 321 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: what the fund is this? And I thought he had 322 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: a STD and he was like, yo, like I've been 323 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: shaving my dick for a year. I don't know how 324 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: he didn't know this. And I was like, bro, you 325 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: have hair on your dick never, yeah, it does. It 326 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: goes up like a tree trunk like the bait like 327 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: binds and ship like that, ship is awful. I'd be like, 328 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not deep throwing and your hair is 329 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: halfway up. Nothing is this? Yeah? Or really trying to 330 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: stay sucking the dick because you're in a rhythm and 331 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: at the same time you're trying to do extra spit 332 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: to get the piece of hair out your mouth while 333 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: you stay in motion of sucking dang on front. I 334 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: don't feel bad. I feel like, now you gotta keep 335 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: it going. You gotta keep it going. That's just awful, man. 336 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: So for the for the kink of the week, um, 337 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the kink of the week this week actually relays to 338 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I guess even a segu from the dating app um 339 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: culture um, but anonymous sex. So. Anonymous sex is a 340 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: form of casual sexual encounters. In this style of a 341 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: one night stand, the participants have little or no knowledge 342 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: of history of interaction with one another. Unlike many other 343 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: forms of sexual interaction, there is no emotional attachment involved 344 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: in anonymous sex. So I tie this because I know 345 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: that we have done this with any No, he does 346 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: that all the time, talked about it. We talked about that. Also, 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: glory holes too. So with this I wanted to bring 348 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: it back to more so of the dating app culture 349 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: of because I know Grinder and Tender started off that 350 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: way as just wanting to fund new people, and now 351 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: we turned it into dating when it's actually still looking 352 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: for someone. Um, dating is an umbrella yeah, to meet? Yeah, 353 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: nowadays I feel yeah, because dat for example, casual dating 354 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: you could say means you're just sucking and eating food, right, 355 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you are you gonna? But I 356 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: don't say like to me as someone you have If 357 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: men were to stop talking today, if he got brought 358 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: up in conversation, I don't ever think I would refer 359 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: to myself as having had dated him. I don't use 360 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: the word I was fucking him for six yeah, and 361 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: that's just the thing. I don't know what word I 362 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: would use. Have you ever gone on dates? Um, I'm 363 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: taking me to the studio wasn't a date? So no, 364 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I guess not. I mean we we. I think we 365 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: got advice to eat before and like his mama made 366 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: me a plate, but like it wouldn't know, like date 367 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: date for real for real? Like no, we just be 368 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: in six years, y'all have shared one kiss and no dates. 369 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I've been fucking him, and he's local, so it's like 370 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: i've seen him, like we're here already, like and I've 371 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: had school, I've had work, I've had this podcast, especially 372 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: for the last two and a half years. I just 373 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: want to suck you. Like, if I know we're not 374 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: going to be anything, what do we need? What do 375 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: I need to go on dates before I'm going to 376 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: spend that for someone I want or someone that I'm 377 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: going to be intimate with. I just need to fuck 378 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: you because that's when I would if we were going 379 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: on dates, that's where I would be confused as to 380 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: what role he plays in my life. But because I 381 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: don't confuse the two, I know that I don't want 382 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: to be with him. We're not talking like we're going 383 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: to be together, and we know that we enjoy each 384 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: other's sexual company. So why while we got to complicate 385 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: shit and go on dates, Because then when we start 386 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: going on dates, when we start having like conversations, now damn, 387 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: now I'm really gonna start liking you, which is why 388 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: we talked about how you like your open relationships and 389 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: how you want them to take bitches on dates. If 390 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: I had a nigga and I knew he could suck 391 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: other bitches. That would be the number one thing. Don't 392 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: take that whole on the days, see, because the main 393 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: thing that I have, you like emotional connections, right, But 394 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I also feel like there will be more. I don't know, 395 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: it's weird. I I get conflicted with this because of 396 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: course there's some jealousy and knowing that someone likes someone, right, 397 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: but I do feel like things are more substantial and meaningful, 398 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to nigga that's out here, you know. 399 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to walk into a bar and there's 400 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: like ten bitches you fucked. I would prefer to know 401 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: that you've had something more meaningful with that person than 402 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: just a bunch of bitches that said they sucked my nigga. Like, 403 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: but see, he's not He's not my nigga. And so 404 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying with my open relationships. But that's 405 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: also why in six years, I'm still very adamant and 406 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: both of us are in agreeance with using condoms because 407 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: I know when you travel and you do, you and 408 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: you got your situation that you're sucking other people. And 409 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: even though he's been the only person i've sucked since April. 410 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: In his mind, he really think I'll be out here 411 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: fucking too. So because we're both out here and we 412 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: know that we both have other sexual partners, why like, 413 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: there's no reason to even bring that into the mix 414 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: of now if you're interested in it, then you're not. Yeah, 415 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: I mean, and he gives me the sex that we 416 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: have condom. I don't if we didn't have a condom. 417 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I don't know how much better it can get. 418 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: But I'm orgasming. I'm coming, like I'm not drawing up. 419 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: It's orgasmy and coming. Okay, so I'm orgasming. I'm creamy 420 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: to mean, when I say I come, it's not an 421 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: orgasm or orgasm is like so much more. It's like 422 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: when I shake a whole lot. But when I come, 423 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: you might need word before because when I'm having an orgasm, 424 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm always like, oh I got I'm about to come. 425 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: So I can't even get a word it out because 426 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: but I started shaking and I wouldn't I was. I 427 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: said something on the live. I ain't gonna say it 428 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: because it's probably problematic. It is problematic, but I'm sorry 429 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: if you say the M word it's not the M word, 430 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: but we was just joking because I told you so 431 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: the last time we had sex, I actually squirted, like 432 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: it all went. So I went from the jigglely Puff 433 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: Pokemon to Squirtle and then because now I said, my 434 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: pussy is scored a bit because he made me squirt, 435 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, what you sparted before? And I'm like, 436 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: not where it came out. Like it's like if he 437 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: popped a bubble and with I was everywhere into cartoons 438 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not into it now. Anyways, my pussy went 439 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: from jiggly Puff to Squirtle and then like we were 440 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: just talking about how I come and he said I 441 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: had Parkinson's pussy. That's it's not appropriate, but I really 442 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: be shaking a lot what I can. So he said 443 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: I had Parkinson's pussy and I'm like, damn you this 444 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: not don't try me if you have someone in your family. 445 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: This was not offensive. I'm sorry. I'm just bringing in 446 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: an intimate conversation that we had and I was like, 447 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: you not ship. I feel bad for Remember when I 448 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: coshed me to comment about the girl live disease yes, 449 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: and it was like I don't know because that was 450 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: it was a bonus. Whatever it was, it was a 451 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: real good bar. But I mean, look, I'm a shaker too, 452 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: and I have an embarrassing shake. I shake and push 453 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: him out. So, yeah, you know, Brooklyn Bay whatever were 454 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: gonna I don't know his name. Yeah, you've made up 455 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: four different nicknames for the same niggas. I don't know, 456 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: but they say January Bay met you at a party, Bay, 457 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Bay, nice house Bay. Can we get a goddamn 458 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: name for this name? The Bay with the nice apartment. 459 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: Want to call him Old Bay because he looks young 460 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: like old Bay. Seas were gonna call him Cramboil. Been 461 00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: doing it, okay, so old basis not so like the 462 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: last time he fucked right, But I didn't want to 463 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: let him know how bad it was. Damn, this is 464 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: so embarrassing. I can't believes tell the story. Okay, it's 465 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: five in the morning. I want to give some context here. 466 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: He fucked the dog shit out of me. His homegirl 467 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: was over, we were all getting sucked up smoking. I 468 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: was like waiting the fun right because I'm like, damn, 469 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: is this bit gonna leave? So finally he tells me 470 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: going his room weight naked, she leaves, he comes in, 471 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: and I noticed Nigga was tired. Fucked the ship out 472 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of me. I came so hard, you know when you 473 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: like squeeze the dick out, because it was like crazy, crazy, 474 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: crazy shakes, and I was like, oh my god, I'm 475 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: so sorry. I need a minute. He's like, it's okay, bro. 476 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't handle it, Like my body was 477 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: so tied becomes So I came so hard and needed 478 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: about two or three minutes that by this time I 479 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: thought he was never sucked me again. Then he felt 480 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: on top of me, sleep on top of me. And 481 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember Sex in the 482 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: City when Charlotte knocked on the door and she's like 483 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: he feels She's like, it's okay. She's like, what has 484 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: it ever happened to you? Bitch? And you know what? 485 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: A part of me was embarrassed to tell that part. 486 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: But then I thought he really used all his last 487 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: energy before he really did, and I was so so 488 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: I cleaned that house. When I woke up that is, 489 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, good morning to you. Yeah that's 490 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: really now, You're right, But I mean it was intense 491 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: and if maybe if I wouldn't have let him, like, 492 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, maybe if I wouldn't have waited three minutes, 493 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have fell asleep. That might be part of 494 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: the old Bay. I don't know, But what I know 495 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: is he put them all goddamn work. That dick is 496 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: so good. I'm trying to share that. I'd literally be like, 497 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: but I only will only share his dick to like 498 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: my friends that don't live here, because I don't want 499 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: them to get into it, because I'm not splitting my 500 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: time with you. But like, he'll go out of town 501 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, girl, he coming to you'll city 502 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: want to put you out, like in a group chat, 503 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: and he'd be like, your friend, really do Like we'd 504 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: be talking and he'd be like, you know, I know. 505 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: I want them to know so we can talk about it. 506 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't want them to fle me literally the one 507 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: threes in my hat with him. With my home girl, 508 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: I only had it with her because I knew she 509 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: was leaving New York and moving back to the West Coast. 510 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: I said, join me, you're leading, you lead me far away, 511 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: but this time you're gonna have some You're going to 512 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: the West Coast. Oh yeah, girl, come join out. You know, 513 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: I guess I'm concerned about how good the dick is 514 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: and how good the sex is. I want to say, 515 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: because pussy fire too. He was telling his home girl 516 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: that was at the house while I was in the 517 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: kitchen how I was like, Top, what do you say? 518 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, Like the heck crazy when you get 519 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: that accolade. He was telling his home girls. You think 520 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: he's trying to have his home girls joining. And I 521 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: wasn't even I don't think she's in the girls either, 522 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: and we weren't into each other, but like she had 523 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: just met me, and like he was saying to her 524 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: while I was in the kitchen, like and she cool. 525 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah she did. He was like, yo, top 526 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: three and I was in there like, but that sex 527 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: as good as I'm scared bitch, because like we'd be 528 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: fucking talking about how good the sex is and he'd 529 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: be like, yo, I know you about to act crazy. 530 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: I'd be like, nigga, you about to add crazy. He's 531 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: like you about to be about favorite. I'm like, favorite, nigger, 532 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: you have options. But when dick, when the dick is good, 533 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: you just have to realize. I go lie seven decks 534 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: so I'll be like, you don't do you give it 535 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: to everyone like this? How do you? Honestly? Some of 536 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: them bitches are undeserving, Like you just need to give 537 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: him regular dick. But told me he had work to do. 538 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: When I was trying to get some dick, I was like, 539 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: I know he's lying, and it's okay. I'm going to 540 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: take the line the next time. Just let me know 541 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: when I'm grateful for whatever I can get. Let me 542 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: tell you something. We went out to eat and I 543 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: was like, I was excited to put on this nice 544 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: dress and ship and I was saying I was eating 545 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: this octa fast fish, and I'm like, you know what, 546 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: this is just the perk because I am blessed. I 547 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: am just going to enjoy this one. I could have 548 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: done it myself, but you know what, fuck it, fuck it, 549 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: fuck it. I'm not gonna say anything to sun this 550 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: up because if I ruined the stick, that's a fifteen 551 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: minute we were away. It's my that's my fifteen minute 552 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: world awaite f four I am Otherwise the g w 553 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: B be a fucking mess and then I'd be like, damn, 554 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: forty two minutes, forty two minutes versus fifteen minutes. If 555 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: it's if it's during your traffic across the g w B. Right, Oh, 556 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: it's all the trucks. It's where everyone goes when they're 557 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: doing the truck routes and ship So I'll literally being 558 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: standstill traffic literally public transportation no, not not into Jersey 559 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: and not And there's no train that goes across Bronx. 560 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: This is the Cross Bronx Expressway. Yes, like fuck, but yeah, 561 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: and then yeah, that's like, it's just amazing. Today's episode 562 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Stitcher's new podcast, The Secret 563 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: Lives of Black Women. It's all about black women striving 564 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: to live their best lives, trying not to lose their 565 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: minds or be in constant rage during the process. 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Let's get back to the show. 576 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and get into our decision this week. 577 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Um again, I'm excited. So we are going to pretty 578 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: much be discussing um, not only polly dating, but having 579 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: sexual um, multiple sexual partners while having an STD that 580 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: is whether curable or not curable. But how to have 581 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the conversation, how you bring it up, um, how to 582 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: feel less shame about it, um, and to realize that 583 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: we you know, we live in a world where she happens. Um. 584 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: So again, do you want to go through I mean, 585 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: is that is that an okay way to happens because 586 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: it can happen anybody. Really, we're go so immune to anything? Yes, yeah, period, 587 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: I mean unless you got there are shots that can 588 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: help you. But the assumption that you could be the 589 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: safest person ever, you know what I mean? Or or 590 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: even the assumption. And I'll say, I not that I 591 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: hated that you said it, but I also don't like 592 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: the idea that we, as free spirited women associate Damn, 593 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I know I should catch something because I'm doing this. 594 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: We should also eliminate the stigma with it. Just because 595 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I have multiple sex partners doesn't make me any less 596 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: clean or less dirty than they say that people that 597 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: are more actively single are generally getting tested more frequently. 598 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: The same with sex work, and we sha this and 599 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: they get tested every sex workers, I mean people that 600 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: are more frequent with sex. Which the irony of this, UM. 601 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: I hate to put these bitches out there, but when 602 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: I was working in an office, so many girls would 603 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: come to me about the STDs that they got from 604 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: just a happy hour that they die at me. Meanwhile, 605 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: they're looking at me like I'm out here itching my 606 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: pussy and I'm like, no, man. But was crazy that 607 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: that was actually one of the questions that was sent 608 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: in as well, not only when I discussed sex clubs, 609 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: but when we went to hedonism. People were like, you 610 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: weren't scared you was gonna get something because those people 611 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: out there and be like, and it's just like people. 612 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: When you're in this lifestyle and you are having as 613 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: much sex as you are nine times that attend, you're 614 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: more in tune with your body. You know when something's itching, 615 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: and bitch, it wasn't itching the day before. You know 616 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: your smells more because you're in tune with your body more. 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: You please not only do you please yourself more, but 618 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: you're interacting with people where you know your body. But 619 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I was reading something about chlamydia recently that said they 620 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: like compared it to a U T. I so like, 621 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: obviously some STDs you won't have any symptoms, but people 622 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: were saying they could feel immediately, like I am. I'm 623 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: that person. I'm very sensitive and I can feel when 624 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: anything is slightly off, Like my first time, I not 625 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: my first my third time going to a party. Um, 626 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: I was just having way to much like sex and 627 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have malub on me, and I was like 628 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: it was like it was over there, it was within reach, 629 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: but I just didn't want to get it. I was like, 630 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm in the moment, is it so great? On it? 631 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: Like the next day I'm literally a cocon ailing it up, 632 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like it didn't make a difference because that's 633 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: show enough. I got beavid the next day, which is 634 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: again not an STD because it's just an imbalancing your pH. 635 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: But because of the scarring that I was experiencing, I 636 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, this is not right, and I'm 637 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: like back to Doc. Then it was like, you know 638 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: this is I'm like again, I'm like, this is bullshit. 639 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, essentially it happens like be no, your body 640 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: a thing that can happen to anybody. Bro bevy can happen. 641 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: Like That's why when I was on vacation this weekend, Oh, 642 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: they was laughing at me because we would jump in 643 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: and out of the pool and I said, oh, let 644 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: me go, Chay, let me go get my most n 645 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: that's for U t I to you these infections bev. 646 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: All of those can literally if you're in a swims 647 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: or you're using different soaps. Because I'm a class difference, 648 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: and every time I go to gym's, I'm like, oh, 649 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: exhale this gym, that gym, and I'm just like something 650 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: doesn't fear right, and it's like, um, how about you 651 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: to choose stuff about carry the same? So for me, 652 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: everywhere I go like just I can't even use So 653 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: You're you're now dating Polly, What does that mean to you? 654 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: What is your Because we've got different We've had different 655 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: um people who have been on the show who identify 656 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: as Polly. But yet there's there's still different ways and 657 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: how you could have a Polly Amiss relationship for me. 658 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: So only here was before I became. Before it's like 659 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: a hiatus of dating in general. Um it was I 660 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: was more non monogamous, where I was just like, if 661 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I met you and I liked you, I told you 662 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: my side issue okay with that aspect with you, and 663 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: then it was a person I was seeing that it 664 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: was just dry, like the sex was great, but the 665 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: comment date was no conversation, there was nothing, it was 666 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: just sex, and I'm like, this is not fun for me. 667 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: And then so I read after my hiatus, I came 668 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: back and I was like, I want a connection. I 669 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: want to be able to talk to you and like 670 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: you and like do things with you and go on 671 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: days with you and actually enjoy your company and have 672 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: you support me and like being my life in a 673 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: more significant way. And and that essentially became the Polly 674 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: part of it, where I forced that first before non monogamy, 675 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: where one of the partners that I'm seeing right now, 676 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: we've been dating since I want to say February. We 677 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: just had sex last week. So we just were dating 678 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: and having great conversations and just being with each other 679 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: and each of this company. But we just recently have sex. 680 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: So it's like the conversation and the connection is primary 681 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the sex of the bonus. Okay, so that's what it 682 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: means for me. Okay, that makes sense. And so how 683 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: have you um over the last ten years with your 684 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: new partners um with being with in this polly relationship? Now, 685 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: how do you introduced to the partner your status? So 686 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: it really I again, when I came back into the 687 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: dating scene, I did an X, I did a bunch 688 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: of different things. I was on dating apps again and 689 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: so on Tinder actually put on my profile. I didn't. Yeah, 690 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I put on my profile on Tinder and on Hinge 691 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: and to the guys that I'm still seeing are from 692 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: Tinder and what did so what did it say? On um? What? Yeah? 693 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: What did you say? Literally? Dating profile did I deleted? 694 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find it. But um, yeah, 695 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: I pretty much states that I'm not a monogamous, polyamorous, 696 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: non monogamous and herpes positive on your dating profile, yes, 697 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: she said on Hinge and on Yeah. And she said 698 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: two of her partners she actually found on both did 699 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: they have it as well? All my partners Actually it's 700 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: just to be negative. Wow. And they so what is it? 701 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Is it them educating themselves, is it you making them 702 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: feel comfortable? What it's a dialogue, It's a combination of both, 703 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: because a lot of people will assume that it's tag 704 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: your attack, you have it, and it's and it And 705 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: the reality is it can be that easy and it 706 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: can be not that easy to because I've dated, of 707 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: all the people that I've been with, my longest partner 708 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: of I want to say, I met him when I 709 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: was eighteen, and we just recently stopped having sex like 710 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: last year because I just got tired of the ships. 711 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: He wasn't good enough for me anymore. He's still negative, 712 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: So it's very possible to live a long, healthy life 713 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: and be with someone who's negative and never transmit the viarris. 714 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: You just gotta be really careful, really into it with 715 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: your body. Is that because you have to have an 716 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: outbreak for no, you don't you so you are a 717 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: contage when you're having a break. Then there is levels 718 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: of shedding where like you don't skin outbreak at all, 719 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: but you can commit the virus, which is why a 720 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: lot of people contracted. And the only way of knowing 721 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: if you have the virus, if you've never been tested 722 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: for it. If you don't have any symptoms, is to 723 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: be tested, But a lot of times they don't want 724 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: to test for HSV or h V one, h V two, 725 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of people, especially people with cold stords, 726 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 1: don't considerate contagious. But a lot of theirs a rise 727 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: on genital herpes type one. I eat from cold towards 728 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: because but that's actually just from sharing bottles, like no 729 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: no skin to skin. It's it's very rare that like 730 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: a person would have to be having an active outbreak 731 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: and then pass it like it had to like cut 732 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: their lip or open up the wound of like the 733 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: virus and then like it would be on the surface 734 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: for it to be happy. Yes, yeah, they can that 735 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: that's not an issue as long as they're not having 736 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: an active outbreak and or not chatting. But again you 737 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you're shedding or not. So it's like 738 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: so my question now is as like we and I 739 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: again just got back from hedonism. We didn't have sex there, 740 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: but it was like an open space to have sex, 741 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: and I do frequent sex clubs. Now, I'll say in 742 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: the times that I've been to sex clubs, um of 743 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: course there's condoms everywhere, but there hasn't been a conversation 744 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: of status or someone coming to me saying, hey, I 745 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: have this, do you still want to have sex? You know? 746 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: So what is your conversation like in the setting of 747 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: a sex club with because girl? I don't know. So 748 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: I went to It was the first couple I went to. 749 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: And so prior to actually going into the party, I 750 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: went to on Reddit and I went on Facebook to 751 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: act people in that policy community how would they feel 752 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: about a person my situation actually going into their So 753 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: I did like a little bit of research and yeah, 754 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I want to be as I want to s as 755 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: honest as possible, Like if they're saying if you read 756 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: the guidelines, none of them ever say you can't come 757 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: if you haven't you know, they don't. So it's just 758 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: like okay, So I asked and they're like, just be 759 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: honest and just disclosed. One person gave me the advice 760 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 1: to get their earlier second socialized and feel less stressed 761 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: out about like engaging, and I was like, okay, that 762 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: works for me. So I end up going into the party, 763 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: I said at the bar, and I end up speaking 764 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: to one guy and I told him my status and 765 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: he was like, okay, thank you for telling me. Again, 766 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: it's a lot of thank you for telling me. Oh, 767 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're dealing with that conversation, but I'm just like, 768 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: it happens. I'm human being. We all do. It's what 769 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: it is. And eventually he was like, so I would 770 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: like to go upstairs, you know. I'm like, okay, let's 771 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: go and we use a condom and I ate some 772 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: pussy balls up there. He had text with me and 773 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: it was like, great, you know my Arab affliction is 774 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: down here, so anything I can do with my mouth 775 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: is never risk any of my partner. So that's why, right, 776 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm open to eating and sucking versus like I had 777 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: to talk to you before we actually engage. I wanted 778 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: to mention like she said that it doesn't say that 779 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: you can come in if you have an STD. I 780 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: went to one sex party, um where you had to 781 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: email your pictures before and stuff like that, and they 782 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: did ask for a photo of your i D and 783 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: then your results, like it had to be within a 784 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: forty five day window, um. And what I found interesting 785 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: is to check the i D and like send the 786 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: result to make sure it's the same name, Like I 787 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: liked that they did that. I thought it was dope. 788 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: And then I think that they were talking about her pies. 789 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: So you know, how like have you ever looked at 790 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: your results and seeing how to'll say less than a 791 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: certain percent Yes, they were showing the weight, like what 792 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: kind of percentage you can have? Wow? Yeah, because it's 793 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: like because essentially ideas that everybody has some form of 794 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: baby if you have, I think that I think there's 795 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: there's a totally different eight different types, and so that's 796 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: also why they're not tested, because all of us hold 797 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: at least one strain of it, and a lot of 798 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: us have had chicken pox growing up. Like it's just 799 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: especially if you're a nineties baby or before. I don't 800 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: think chicken pox is a thing now with the with 801 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: the right, but a lot of us who were born 802 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: in either um the early nineties or before that was 803 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: a common thing. At some point you get chicken pox 804 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: and then you can't go to school, and then once 805 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: it's all over and all the stoords are off, you know, 806 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: you get back to class um. So I guess, I 807 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: guess I'm trying to think how I would respond to 808 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: someone telling me that, but I also think that this 809 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: goes to what we were saying earlier, when you are 810 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: open to these lifestyles, so the swinging lifestyles, the sex clubs. 811 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't think shame is as attached to as t 812 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: DS as someone who's a little bit more closed minded, 813 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna lie. I was talking to this 814 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: guy find as Hell, and we were going through what 815 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: we liked in the bed, and I brought up like 816 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: Kinks and things that I was into, um, and of 817 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 1: course I brought up pegging and he was like, oh, yeah, nah, 818 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I could suck you now because if 819 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: you if if you suck the nigga that lets you 820 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: peg them, that means he sucks with guys, and if 821 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: he works with guys, that means I don't know what 822 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: you got type ship. And I was like, you think 823 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: because literally this was our conversation and it nigga plays 824 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: football just a little and I was just like, we 825 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: literally had to get into the conversation. I said, so 826 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: this is me opening what I'm saying to you. But 827 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: you don't think that you're dealing with a woman who's 828 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: casually fucking you think she knows everything that those men 829 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: have done and everything that the women that they've done 830 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: have done, like to be so closed minded when I'm 831 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: telling you, it's like it really amazes me, like the 832 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: people who aren't in this lifestyle, how close minded they are, 833 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: but to even still associate diseases back to gay men. 834 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: Like a few weeks ago to Miami, where there's three 835 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: people at the table next to me. I was not 836 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: with these people, and I guess the girl brought a 837 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: gay friend, and so there was two men at the 838 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: table and a girl. This is the context. I just 839 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: hear her saying like, wow, my nigga, Like you don't 840 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: fucking know shit about him, Like like you worried about 841 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: a fucking sip of a drink? Are you serious? I 842 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: guess the dude maybe took a sip of some and 843 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: she was like, I'm the one who's a fucking bottle girl. 844 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: I'm probably more liable to have ship than him. And 845 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: I was like that ship was so funny. And I'm 846 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, like, you know, and and this is 847 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: no shade to like bottle girls are in the timan industry, 848 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: but like, seriously, though, it's like the avenue that men 849 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: meet women in which is semi sex industry when it's 850 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: tripping or things like that, but like such a stigma 851 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: on gay men, such a freak out, such an inner homophobia. 852 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: Like I understand that it's more rampant, but still like 853 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: if you're hounds or that you're gonna get something with 854 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: a bitch. Either way, you think it's because I strapped up, Yeah, dumb, dumb, 855 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: or the idea that whoever you're fucking, you're aware of 856 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: their entire sexual history and everyone that they've fucked. So 857 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: the fact that he literally went from oh, you're into 858 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: this and one of the guys like a nigga actually 859 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: lets you do this to him, that means he's been 860 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: with men, And now that means I don't know if 861 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: I could have sex, and like I think I was 862 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: like three and he didn't have any more condoms. I 863 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: spent the night at his house and I was like, oh, well, 864 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: like can we go get one somewhere? And he was like, yo, honestly, 865 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: he's like, I haven't been with nobody was like the 866 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: girl I talked to was like, she's a little secretary. 867 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: She she'll be out here. Oh the aans no one 868 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: else I had to I had to cancel somebody a 869 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: couple of months ago because of the same ship. I'm 870 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 1: just like, you're like, whatever you think that because again 871 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: in the lifestyle, he was like yo, and I asked him, 872 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: I just did you use a column with her? He's like, 873 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: that's not your business. I'm like, excuse me, it's wait 874 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: wait wait, wait, wait wait wait. You were dealing with 875 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: somebody he had sex with someone else, and you asked 876 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: him if he used a condomy and he said that 877 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't your business, but he still wanted to continue 878 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: having sex with you and had an ex girlfriend who 879 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: cheated on him. Like it was just like, so you're chicken. 880 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: We know your intuition ain't too good anyway. So so 881 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: that's my thing too. And I think it's something that 882 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: for everyone listening. I think this is very important that 883 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: when you are having sex with someone, specifically in a 884 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: non monogamous fashion. Although maybe you feel like you can't 885 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: be questioned because you guys are not in a relationship, 886 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: it's one percent valid that I asked you about anything 887 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: that you're doing with somebody else in in to protect myself, 888 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: and you should be open enough. If I know you're 889 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: having sex with other people, be completely honest with me 890 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: about what you're doing when I'm not there, Like, we 891 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: know we're sucking other people. That's fine, but yes it 892 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: is my business if you're out here fucking people raw 893 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: and now you're coming to me and you potentially want 894 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: to suck me wrong because now, no, I'm not gonna happen, right, 895 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So yeah, I'm glad that you told him, 896 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: glad to shut the s down. He would got upset 897 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: with me and then again again. But the BackFlash, he 898 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: was like, well, you're the You're the You're the most 899 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: dangerous one out of all of them. Like, yes, let 900 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: us tell him that. I had to read him all 901 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: of his rights. I'm saying, you're a guy who had 902 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: your dick and two different females within the last two months. 903 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: I haven't had raw sex and almost two and a 904 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: half three years, so you need to get all of 905 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: your ship checked out. I said, we're not gonna go 906 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: back when this is. If I see you, I think 907 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: you don't know me. But here's the truth. Though, your 908 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: transparency is such a admirable thing, because let's be real, 909 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: and what if they didn't have an outbreak and they're like, well, 910 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: I'll just tell I'm not gonna tell him because it's 911 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: not it's funny. I was actually telling Um Vincent because 912 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: we were out in the lobby um waiting on the studio, 913 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: and we were having this conversation just about people admitting 914 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: to it and people not and I have you know 915 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: a friend that I know who million followers, does all 916 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: this and has herpes and decides not to disclose it 917 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: all to any of her partners. Not well, a lot 918 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: of well, I can answer because I was when I 919 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: first was diagnosed. I was very well in that I 920 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: don't know if I should disclose, because again I was 921 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: told I didn't have to disclose us I was serious, 922 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: which a lot of doctors are still telling people that 923 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: really yes, because they feel that condoms and using vos Alva, 924 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: h valtracks whatever minimize the risk. So if you're having 925 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: casual one here, casual one there, the probability of you 926 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: passing it is highly unlikely. However, if you're having one 927 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: person consistently seeing them all the time, it may become 928 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: more transmissible. Whether or not that's here there. There are 929 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: doctors who are telling people, well, you don't have to 930 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: telling you're serious and the fact that they and all 931 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: of these stuff that is a lot of us. When 932 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: I was first diagnosed, I didn't other than knowing people 933 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,439 Speaker 1: who had serious like oral oral herpes. Those are people 934 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: who I asked and I said, well, how do you 935 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: date with this virus? Because at that moment I knew 936 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: it was the same thing. I didn't how I know 937 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: about shedding, which is when you can transurvive, that I 938 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: have an any symptoms, So there was a part of 939 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: my mind that did not know that if unless that 940 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: I only knew that if I had an outbreak, I 941 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: was contagious. Other than that, I thought I was fine. 942 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: So I did, for a period of time have sex 943 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: without telling my partners until we became in a relationship, 944 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: and luckily I had a good experience with I was 945 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna say they received it fine, Yeah, they received the fine. 946 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: They understood, and again they understood why I didn't tell 947 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: because a lot of times you'll get judged by it 948 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: immediately rather it in and especially depending on how you 949 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: deliver the information, a lot of times it's like, oh 950 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: my god, I have herpes? Do you still want to 951 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: be with me? Versus and educated conversation about I have herpes. 952 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: This is how it's transmitted. You may have it, This 953 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: is the all of the things. A lot more people 954 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: are susceptible to understanding it, especially the reality when you 955 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: don't come shaming yourself it like such a badau. I know, 956 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a firm believer in the power of choice, 957 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: and I think once you take someone's choice away, which 958 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: is why you know you putting it on your dating profile, 959 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: it's to me it's a lot, but I also get 960 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: why you do it. Yeah, now let's get it out 961 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, because a lot of it, and a 962 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: lot of it tied into how was dating before where? 963 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: Because I didn't tell them at first and I told 964 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: him eventually. There was a guilt of me staying there 965 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: because I didn't get the initial choice, even though they 966 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't contract it. Later on, I didn't want to leave 967 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: because I was also afraid of going back out there 968 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: starting all over again, and I didn't want to keep 969 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: having to do this conversation over nor again, so I 970 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: stayed in relationship I shouldn't have stayed in. I didn't 971 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: disclose immediately, and then once I found out there were 972 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: like forums and like people who they were like communities, 973 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: of these people. Then I found out that shedding was 974 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: the thing, and I was like, holy shit. And then 975 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: that's when I changed my tun to be Okay, I 976 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: need something from the beginning that gives them got it 977 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: from shedding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my exu I was dating for, 978 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: she was in a relationship. Yeah, that's very interesting. Well, 979 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead. I I love this talk, And 980 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: if you guys want to continue the conversation in the comments, 981 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: If you guys have any um stories of your own 982 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: that you would like to share about dating with any 983 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: sort of STD and how you came about with having 984 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: that conversation, we would love to hear it. We're gonna 985 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: get into our homemail real quick, um and it is 986 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: titled sexual mental Block. Hello, ladies, thank you so much 987 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: for what you do. I have been listening to you 988 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: guys for about a year. I am one of your 989 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: proud twenty seven white girl listeners. I need your advice. 990 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 1: I started dating a new gus. You know, I started 991 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,959 Speaker 1: dating a new guy about a month ago. He's great. 992 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm totally falling for him, totally sexy, and we have 993 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: sexual fund together when we're partying, but when it's just 994 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: us I'm having trouble getting aroused and climaxing. I don't 995 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: have arousal problems usually, and I'm very attracted to him. 996 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 1: When I think about him by myself, I get aroused. 997 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: When I think of him with other women. When we 998 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: are together, I get aroused, But I just can't seem 999 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: to get fully aroused naturally. AT think it's because I 1000 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: like him so much and think he's so damn cute. 1001 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: He still makes me nervous and gives me butterflies. He's 1002 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: a fair haired, blue eyed, tall drink of water that 1003 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: I want to be able to funk as long as 1004 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: I can. I know it's mental, but I'm having trouble 1005 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: overcoming it. I feel as time goes on and I 1006 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: get more comfortable with him, it will go away. I 1007 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: don't want to continue thinking about him with other women 1008 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: because of the whole sex magic thing. I did that 1009 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: with my ex and he went off and cheated. Not 1010 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: sure if it's related, but I don't want to risk 1011 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: it with this one. I'll think about it until I'm 1012 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,439 Speaker 1: ready to come. Until I'm ready to come, then stop 1013 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: and focus on him, hoping that we will deter any 1014 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: sex magic from working anyway, what do you guys suggest 1015 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: that would help me? We do watch porn together and 1016 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: that does help. I don't want to always watch porn 1017 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: though to have sex. Are there any stimulant products that 1018 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: don't feel like mental on the clip? Please? Any advice 1019 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: you can offer. I really like this guy. Sincerely frustrated. 1020 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: So when I read this, I'm getting the idea that 1021 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: she's associating arousal was being what because she's asking for stimulator. 1022 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: She said she gets aroused after watching porn, and she's 1023 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: asking for any type of products. Um, so she really 1024 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,959 Speaker 1: likes him. She wants to have sex. Do you guys 1025 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: have any sort of maybe conversation or anything that she 1026 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: can do in order to feel more comfortable. I'm not 1027 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: like a super super wet person until like in the 1028 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 1: middle of sex. That's the truth. Like, and I used 1029 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: to get super insecure about it because scissors is like 1030 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: fucking super soaker and like it's it's it's a sexy 1031 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: ass turn on. But like, I'm just not that way. 1032 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: It takes me more time. So generally my partners always 1033 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: give me head for it first, or even though I 1034 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: am aroused, like and they'll know I'm aroused, Like I 1035 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: do get wet at some point, like but I mean wet, 1036 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: I mean crazy wet, not like an uncomfortable drive. But 1037 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not like soaked. Um, I'll be royal. The 1038 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: times that I'm the most wet, and this is just 1039 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: diet speaking, is when I'm drinking a lot of water. 1040 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: I know it sounds really basic, but like, seriously like it. 1041 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: It makes a difference. I've even tracked it. Um. And 1042 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: then I take women's daily vitamins and probiotics, and that 1043 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: gets me more wet too, because the daily vitamins, like 1044 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I don't know how it helps. 1045 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry we didn't research this before, but on some 1046 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: real ship, I'm telling you what vitamins really help me? 1047 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: To me something that has gotten me um more aroused 1048 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: with someone that maybe I wasn't aroused with. And you're 1049 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: saying that you like him a lot, So I know 1050 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, the idea of even shaming 1051 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: on not talking about sex too soon or coming across 1052 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: as overly sexual because you don't want to look like 1053 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: a ho or whatever the case may be. I would 1054 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: say that it may help you become more aroused with 1055 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: him alone. If you maybe play with that idea more so, 1056 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: secting him and letting him know you can't wait for 1057 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: you all to be together, um, and just maybe opening 1058 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 1: up more about the intimacy and sex that you want 1059 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,919 Speaker 1: with just him, Not when you're out in the club 1060 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: and you're grinding on him and now you're so aroused 1061 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: because you're having a good time, but literally leading up 1062 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: to the sex where you two will just be alone own. 1063 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: Maybe start playing with it more, texting him about it, 1064 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: becoming more comfortable with the idea of sex just with him, 1065 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: not that I not and not making it seem like, 1066 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, I know he fox and he's so sexy, 1067 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: but him with another woman, Oh that turns me on. No, 1068 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: I think the idea of you having sex with him 1069 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: needs to turn you on just as much. I mean, 1070 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: being president in the moment, like is a big deal. 1071 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: I always try to compare things. I think I said 1072 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: yesterday and we were sitting with a sante and a 1073 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: girl asked a question, how would you feel if you 1074 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: knew that other person had to get off about you 1075 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: with someone else? Like, yeah, it's it could be sexy, 1076 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: but like knowing that you're not enough, Like how would 1077 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: that make you feel like, I think it's a good 1078 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: practice to try to engage with that person at one time, 1079 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: not in terms of monogamy, but just like being present 1080 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: with that person and appreciating them for what they have, 1081 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: because I would be so upset if I'm not gonna 1082 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: lie to me too, and so the idea that like 1083 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: and no, but I would say that's also something you 1084 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: might not want to let him know that you get 1085 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: aroused at the idea of him with someone else, but 1086 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: you don't get aroused at the idea of yourself with him, 1087 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 1: because that could also just be an insecurity with yourself. 1088 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: And I think that that is that what you're engaging 1089 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: from that to feel that way too about that, because 1090 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: I mean I've I've there have been cases where I'm 1091 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: just not fully there with the partners and it's just, yeah, 1092 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: I just insecurity. It's not like she's feeling jealous, right, 1093 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: She's not jealous, but maybe she might feel like she's 1094 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 1: not enough. She knows that he's a tall glass of aquafina, 1095 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: or she him and likes the idea of people wanting him. 1096 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, now I will be real. I do 1097 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: get off heavily when knowing them like bitches want to 1098 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: go with it's disgusting. Oh, I'm not gonna lie the 1099 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: niggas that like I funk with, Like we get turned 1100 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: on by seeing videos of us with other people. So 1101 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: like anytime I'm about to have sex, like there's probably 1102 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: like three niggas on my phone specifically, Like they'll ask me, 1103 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: hey have you lately did you record it? Like, and 1104 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: they'll want to see me with other men and then 1105 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: the same like vice versa. They'll literally I'll be literally 1106 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: walk into the train and I'll get a fucking video 1107 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: of another bit second age, like, so that turns us 1108 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: on seeing each other with other people, but also like 1109 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: we get excited because we do still want to see 1110 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: each other and commit together, but we are both turned 1111 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: on as well by knowing we're sucking other people. It's 1112 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: weird because me and the guy I'm another guy that 1113 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 1: I'm dating, he's my primary now we're like talking about 1114 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: when we go to the next party, and I'm because 1115 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: I met him at a party, and who had thought 1116 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: that I would make someone I'm dating at a sex party? Whatever, 1117 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, we got to thought and think that I'm like, 1118 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just a sex that's what's going to be. 1119 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: And then it's like I like you and we get 1120 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: along and we haven't but not only have to like 1121 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: someone then to know that they're also like in the 1122 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: same ship. I want to make sure we all know 1123 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: and understand we have not been taught right. We have 1124 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 1: been listening to other women for years tell us like 1125 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: how they got where they got to, and they're older 1126 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: and they're in a different era. A lot of people 1127 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: do need sex first, sometimes before the feeling that to me, like, 1128 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: that's that's a huge bit of chemistry. When when I'm dating, 1129 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: I've feel like I need to be not only aroused 1130 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: by you mentally, but sexually. Sex is a big thing 1131 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: to me and I don't want to feel like I 1132 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: have to go to somebody else to get what you 1133 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: can do. Relationships can happen from anything in anyone, any 1134 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of situation, and I think, like, yeah, my ex 1135 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: brother first, okay, what I talked about it on the show. 1136 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: I know, I want to thought we were together, and 1137 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: then the brothers ended up counting me as part of 1138 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: the fan very much a test job before you draft 1139 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of girl, and yeah, you know, not exactly, but 1140 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean same bloodline. So, um, I guess, um, before 1141 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: we get out of here, if you can let our 1142 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: listeners know, because you do have a Facebook support group, 1143 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: and then you also write a blog with your experiences. 1144 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: So if you can let our listeners know, maybe where 1145 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: they can reach out to you and where they can 1146 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: open up and share more of their experiences. Because I 1147 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 1: know this is gonna be an episode that I hope 1148 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: takes shame away from those who are fighting with this 1149 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: right now, maybe people who are not telling their partners 1150 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: and maybe they want to really get the courage to 1151 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: open up about their status. Um, where can they find 1152 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: all of good? So my information is on my Instagram 1153 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: is Carolyne Tony. That's it. Um, my name is yeah, 1154 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: and then my blog is Tales of Tony like story Tales. 1155 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: And then there are many support groups there. Um, if 1156 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,919 Speaker 1: you go on Facebook, if you just type in her group, 1157 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: they're like four or five of them. There are ones 1158 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: for like people who want to day people of color. 1159 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: There are also meet up groups in person and also 1160 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,439 Speaker 1: read a subgroups. I'm a part of a lovely group 1161 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,399 Speaker 1: called love Profound via the app meet up and it's 1162 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: run by a girl behind named is Devin and she 1163 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: We meet up once a month in Harlem and we 1164 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: just have conversations and making comment. It's a clear space, 1165 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: but you can show yeah, she's amazing. I like that, 1166 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: and this is and this is locally. So if you 1167 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: are in New York, um, definitely again reach out to 1168 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: her and just to have that support system and know 1169 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: that other people are going through what you're going through. 1170 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: I think that that's why this podcast has definitely been 1171 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: the success that it has, because we've created a space 1172 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: where you don't have to feel weird or abnormal or 1173 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: like you're the only person people are getting. Yeah. Yeah, 1174 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: so I think that's like literally wait literally yes, yeah, 1175 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about literal ship. Yeah, Like we don't 1176 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: ever do it for fun too. I mean, I don't 1177 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: eat it. I'll like I lick ass, but I don't. 1178 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: Literally I didn't see you. Oh. I thought you were 1179 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: saying I eat ship. I'm like, I just licked the 1180 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: I just lick the gooch. What I literally eat? Oh? 1181 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: I thought she was throwing shade at me licking ass. 1182 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: My bad because I'll be down there, like I just 1183 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 1: recently started. I just told him Nick, I want him 1184 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: to record me while I lick his ass so that 1185 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: I've never done before. That's video that like, no, it 1186 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: better never go nowhere. It's gonna be on my phone, bitch, 1187 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like I wanted on my phone because 1188 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: I clouds the way ship set up. I feel like 1189 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: there's levels two nudes that can leak that are like 1190 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: like I I sent this nude too, just like necking 1191 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: down casual, and I was like, you know what, I 1192 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: don't all the way trust these niggers, but this ain't bad. No, 1193 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: but that's not a nude. You have panties on. Damn 1194 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: that camera's facing me, ain't it Okay? Well remember this 1195 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: minute mark before my titties end up on the on 1196 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: the tube and not the you. Toddy's count is a 1197 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: new you could walk in in Times Square. Look both 1198 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: like that. Aren't sucking nudes? Bro? You have your nipple 1199 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um one nipple and it's nipples are allowed, 1200 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: so just you know what, thank you. Before we get 1201 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 1: out of here, I want to shout out to everyone 1202 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 1: who's sitting at their desk and not because bitch, we 1203 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: really want to get on me. When I tell you 1204 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: y'all be at y'all desk. I gotta go back to 1205 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: my everybody who don't even got the job. Shout out 1206 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: to y'all, hose Um, I do want to shout out. 1207 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: I guess we have truck drivers that listen to us 1208 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: as well, so shout out to them. Shout out to um, 1209 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: you guys who are watching us on YouTube. But our 1210 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: biggest shout out, of course, is to our patrons. I 1211 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: am a patroon. Shout out to you. What's your patrols? Funny, 1212 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 1: let's see probably maybe I came to the Horble's show too. 1213 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite shows. It was just 1214 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: know they have a good time because make sure you 1215 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: bring your ass, yes, and bring your home girls because 1216 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: the bitches be ready to funk after justly that show. 1217 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: And people always say like, what makes a good show, Well, 1218 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what. The energy. It's energy. It's energy. 1219 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 1: That would DC and the first l A show. Those 1220 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: were like my favorite shows of last tour. But we're 1221 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: hitting sixteen cities next. We're gonna drop those days later. Yeah, 1222 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: we're everywhere next, UM coming up. But again, shout out 1223 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: to the patrons for supporting us as always. UM, you 1224 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: guys are getting four episodes a month every Monday, we're here. 1225 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: But if you are all caught up and this isn't 1226 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: enough horseship for you, we dropped three bonus episodes a 1227 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: month and you have the opportunity to receive merch for 1228 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: our top tier patrons. Um weez the sending out sweatshirts, 1229 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: we have t shirts, and we're doing coffee mugs now 1230 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: so we can actually be on your desk at work, 1231 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 1: or in your car or just at your house. For 1232 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: y'all who don't have a job, who don't have a desk, 1233 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: She's like, everyone sits at a desk, and I'm like, bitch, 1234 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I think these holes be paying for those two. There's 1235 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: a woman who works for the m t A that 1236 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: told me that she listens to the show's shout out 1237 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: to y'all who don't have a desk. You ain't got 1238 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: one of the bitch I made one of my house 1239 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: with like I'm still an accounting at work. Bitch I 1240 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: got two monitors, I got my laptop, I got a 1241 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: little squiggle chair, I got my drawers. Bitch I even 1242 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: got filed like the file folders. Bitch I feel like 1243 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm still an account and I'd be in my account 1244 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: like let me. Move this screen over here, right here, 1245 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: pull up a spread sheet. Oh bitch, I'll be having 1246 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: it all going any who. As always, we're gonna leave 1247 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: you all with a five minute bonus clip from one 1248 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 1: of our Patron episodes. Um and if you think you 1249 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: like that ship and you want to listen to the rest, 1250 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: become a patron at Patreon dot com back slash Horrible Decisions. 1251 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: If you, I mean, you will like it. But it 1252 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 1: is eighteen and up, so I know a lot of 1253 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: you guys going to Patreon and search us. We won't 1254 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: show up because we are an eighteen plus content platform. 1255 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: So it is Patreon dot com back slash Horrible Decisions. Again, 1256 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave you with a clip for that. And 1257 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: as always, UM, I don't know if it's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 1258 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: but have a rest of a week. I guess aways 1259 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: we get you some dig get you some pussy or both. 1260 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Um and again this has been yet another episode of 1261 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: Horrible Decisions. It's Bony's beat. Hey guys, Happy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 1262 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,919 Speaker 1: Friddy and I ran into a girl in the train 1263 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: who told me you guys always say happy Monday and 1264 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 1: I actually I am a truck driver and listen to 1265 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: you guys on a binge. She's like she listens to 1266 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: like eight or ten episodes in one well, bitch, yo, 1267 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: bad ship. I was like, oh, will we drop a 1268 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: happy Day? Right? Okay, so we're gonna start doing that. 1269 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Then a happy day, happy happy day of a week? 1270 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,400 Speaker 1: What up time y'all listen to us? Do we get 1271 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the most listening on Monday or Tuesday? Monday the most 1272 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: on Monday when we dropped maybe waiting bitchy, you know, 1273 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: because if we late, We've only been late like four 1274 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe three times the entire in the two and a 1275 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: half years that we've had this podcast, and if we're late, 1276 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: we're like, bitch theyre waiting on the episode. So Monday 1277 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: and our most listening to day. Um, I want to 1278 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: thank all of you guys. Um we're Happy Day. Yeah, 1279 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,720 Speaker 1: we've gotten into the rhythm of posting our bonus episodes 1280 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: on Monday, so now you guys are getting two episodes 1281 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 1: in a day, So I can get how maybe they 1282 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: only listen to one and then maybe the second. You 1283 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: can't get mad that our episodes are only an hour, 1284 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: because really, you get dost working on my Spanish because 1285 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to Puerto Rico next weekend. Well, technically it's 1286 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: the week that you're listening to this. I guess I'm 1287 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: still there, like a fucking random trip I end up taking, 1288 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: like just random, but very random, because so random. I 1289 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: didn't even know about it. I just told you I 1290 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: was going from the I found out from other people. 1291 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even know about this, and I'm like, oh, well, 1292 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 1: that's nice that my coast is going on a vacation 1293 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 1: that I wasn't aware of. You found out that I 1294 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 1: was going to Puerto Rico. Yes, because I am going 1295 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: to be a part of the friend Zone Live show 1296 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and they wanted Horrible Decisions a part of it, and 1297 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 1: so they all let me know that they were inviting you. 1298 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: I said, cool, well, we always want to support. So 1299 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I was at the Black Lady Comedy sketch Um screening 1300 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: shot out. It was super cute, super funny, super black. 1301 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I loved it um and I also start today. Oh sorry, 1302 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: August twod. It came out August second, so if you 1303 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: have HBO, you can tune in. So we're literally getting 1304 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,520 Speaker 1: drinks on with Jade, Fran and Assante and they're like, yeah, 1305 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 1: so I guess it's just gonna be you because we 1306 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be in Puerto Rico on the tent and 1307 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 1: I said, she is. I said, I was unaware of this. 1308 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you guys know no more about 1309 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: my co host than I do because I had no 1310 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: idea of let me show you where I'm going. So 1311 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: here's a long story short. One of Rashida's friends rented 1312 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: this fucking house. I'm gonna post it so you guys 1313 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 1: can see it. I'll try to post as much as 1314 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: I can of it. It's fucking sick. It's a thousand 1315 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: dollars a night, ten bedrooms. Look at this. Hell that's nice, Like, 1316 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: oh god, we're gonna see you naked and bikini's all 1317 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: fucking weekend. I mean, but um, it's a scissors can't go, 1318 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,040 Speaker 1: which is probably a good thing because we probably have 1319 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: sex the whole time. But there's just a bunch of 1320 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 1: bitches going. So I'm excited to Yeah, that should be 1321 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Um and I'm starting improv classes. 1322 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 1: I am super nervous. I don't know what they're gonna be, Like, 1323 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 1: no way, I hope not. I love that Mandy showing 1324 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 1: me something, y'all. Nah nah nah, she gave the gift 1325 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: for seat listen, shout out. I just want to give 1326 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I just recorded if you guys listen last week, shout 1327 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: out to again Brianna Cummings and Amanda Mendez, who are 1328 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: our patrons. Um Amanda brought us a gift to the 1329 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: recording and bitch, I just looked a lot of price 1330 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: sag and now I know she rich. I know what 1331 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: she does for a living. But I'm just like, sis, 1332 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you didn't have to Holy shit, thank you. I love 1333 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: mind you. The last the last guest we had on 1334 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,959 Speaker 1: brought us shrooms. So at this point, I just feel 1335 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: like we get so many fucking random gifts from all 1336 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: of our guests. We've got insects, toys, lingerie books. Okay, 1337 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm just like, holy fucking ship. But yeah, shout out 1338 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: to you guys. I haven't taken my shrooms yet. I'm 1339 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 1: gonna bring him to Puerto Rican either. Well. Jade also 1340 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: told me, so make sure, maybe give me some coconut 1341 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: weed ships, so make sure you can't take it when 1342 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 1: you're in Puerto Ricotta know how it goes with traveling 1343 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 1: with them bitches. But everyone that I've asked. I've talked 1344 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: to three people about it because I just did Jada 1345 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Next Seed, so I brought them to do it with 1346 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Jade and she's like, listen, the only way you could 1347 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: take these shrooms is if you're in a good space. 1348 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: So if you're in Puerto Rico and maybe you get 1349 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: into an argument, don't take them after Like, well, that's 1350 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: really any drug the only drugs they say, So it's 1351 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: like opie, Like if you take like a xan x 1352 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: or marijuana, like, yeah, you can be in bed because 1353 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 1: it'll just take you down. But any kind of drugs 1354 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: that are hallucinogens or psychedelics open up, she said. Listen, 1355 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: she said, if you're stressed right now, if there's anything 1356 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: bothering you, do not take these shrooms until you are 1357 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 1: literally in an ecstatic happy place, because otherwise you don't 1358 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: know what your trip will be