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Speaker 1: the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and

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Speaker 1: Newi Scrugs. Okay, one thirty one thirty on a on

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday afternoon, Hunt Day, Survivor Day, Danny McCray, Berry Church,

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Speaker 1: they're not here for this special edition of the Players Line.

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Speaker 1: We have mixed things up, so we've decided to keep

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Speaker 1: at the Players Lines. We've got stilled to two free agents,

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Speaker 1: these guys and was Super Bowls one with Gray Hair,

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Speaker 1: I got Super Bowls, Nate Newton, Everson Walls filling in.

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Speaker 1: I've got my team, Danny, Shannon got mine o the

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Speaker 1: office and wouldn't bring it down. Shannon got mass I'm

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Speaker 1: on my team. Survivor too. Survivor forty one airs tonight

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Speaker 1: seven pm on CBS. Our guy Daniel Crazy shown. So

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Speaker 1: we support check that out. Yeah, we bought bought shirts

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Speaker 1: and we support them. So every Wednesday, Church, but Shannon

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Speaker 1: won't bring it down. Channon Gross won't bringing down. No,

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Speaker 1: we don't, don't he can't even reveal it. He just

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Speaker 1: I keep acting. Maybe you're gonna get butt naked. He's

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Speaker 1: I'm on the wrong show anyway, So I hope he

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Speaker 1: will watch that show naked in the phrase no, I

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Speaker 1: just I just heard it. Jimmy Johnson did it naked

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Speaker 1: in afraid no survive survive? Yeah, that was too scared.

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Speaker 1: They would have been afraid that Jimmy would have got naked.

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Speaker 1: Dude's probably had great hair everywhere. That's why I had

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Speaker 1: been a friend. Go ahead, oh it, take show back

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Speaker 1: over plays last Rogie by hotels dot com. I'll strugs

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Speaker 1: along with Nate Newton and Everson Walls. Where you're going

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Speaker 1: to take you for the next forty five minutes right here.

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Speaker 1: Demante Casey arrested early Tuesday morning at three am in

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Speaker 1: the College a traffic violation end up failing a sobriety

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Speaker 1: field test. He's arrested. Mike McCarthy had said on Monday

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Speaker 1: to the media, Hey, I told our guys, be safe,

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Speaker 1: be smart. I feel we can trust our guys. We

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Speaker 1: and oh man, Casey is a free agent, want safety

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Speaker 1: on a one year deal. That's the nineties. Cuss. So, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: how does the locker room deal with something like this?

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Speaker 1: I think our day not as different these days, but

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Speaker 1: in our day, you know, that was something that was

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Speaker 1: kind of the norm, you know. I mean, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the team, but we're called the South America's team

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Speaker 1: anything new. Nowadays, we're a little bit more politically correct,

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Speaker 1: you know, in this society, especially with this team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, when you're talking about Dwiyes d UIs,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the dangers that you posed to the public. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: nothing you can dismiss on a practical level. It is

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Speaker 1: what it is. He made a mistake, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: just not that's not what you want for your family.

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Speaker 1: You certainly don't want it for this this season, Nate.

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Speaker 1: best of us. So I'm withever soon. You know you

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Speaker 1: you you take care of home first, whatever that home is.

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Speaker 1: because I see that's just how I feel. I see

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Speaker 1: you try to say, you can call it anytime. I

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Speaker 1: a great history, yeah, that's what I'm saying. If he

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Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't me. So now everybody get closed in

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Speaker 1: you but Uber, what is it? Uber? How you pronounce you?

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Speaker 1: That's your lifestyle, that's your lifestyle. Make that mistake and

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Speaker 1: Coach Hubbard can y'all go find y'all players? You know,

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Speaker 1: you see? I'm just saying how good these players have it,

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't just so why wouldn't people say Boston.

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Speaker 1: Adam Borough. Is that what it is? Adam Borough is

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Speaker 1: outside of Fox Stop? I got you there, But no,

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Speaker 1: he can't defend it that. But don't don't don't this

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Speaker 1: him with face right there. They're out there. I mean

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys keep all these you mentioned Stephen A. Smith,

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys keep him in business. He's now decided to

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Speaker 1: make the Cowboys a part of his bit because he

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Speaker 1: comes to town. He's got his cowboy head on. It's

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It's the most popular team. So he's

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Speaker 1: just going to be the ad now Michael IRV and

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Speaker 1: the Michael Michael Monday and Michael Monday of some crap.

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Speaker 1: And then then you had you had to go back

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Speaker 1: into this. Shannon does it where Steve and A did

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Speaker 1: it because they're both working with Skip. Because Skip bayless

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Speaker 1: side he wanted to be the cowboy homer. So then okay,

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Speaker 1: you can't have two holds left and became a homer,

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Speaker 1: you know, right right? But so so you and he

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Speaker 1: me became a homer because it's good for it's good for.

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Speaker 1: I tell people all talk about those shows like, look,

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Speaker 1: I understand the mentality. What goes into this. This is

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Speaker 1: show business. Some people all you hear this. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I watch because it's a show. It is

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Speaker 1: a show. It is show business. And so look at

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Speaker 1: how they're positioned themselves. Skip. I'm all about the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Fine, I'm gonna blow up the Cowboys. The same

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Speaker 1: thing with stephen A. So this is what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: If there were six and old. Of course they're won

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Speaker 1: over every yes, every every everything he mentioned, every Republic,

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Speaker 1: every yeah, every Let me ask you this, you watched

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Speaker 1: an Arizona game this year? I have not. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: watched bits and pieces, but you haven't watched again, I

451
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Speaker 1: have not. Okay, have they been on national TV? They

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Speaker 1: have not. They'll make a run in the second half.

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Speaker 1: They can maintain because the national media don't believe yet,

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Speaker 1: right so I don't believe yet, So just looking here

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Speaker 1: that they believe, but they're ready for someone to change

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Speaker 1: their minds because they're giving them love. So Arizona's got

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Speaker 1: a Thursday night game coming up in week eight MS.

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Speaker 1: They've got a Monday night game against the Rams. They've

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Speaker 1: got a Thursday night No Saturday, they got a Saturday

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Speaker 1: game against any app So right now, I don't see

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Speaker 1: them on Sunday Night football at all here, So just

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Speaker 1: just that kind of that coverage you need. Well, they

463
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Speaker 1: they're not the Cowboys, but they didn't make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year. Right, But this is just what you need.

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Speaker 1: When people look at this stuff, they are going to

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Speaker 1: vote with. You know, it's like it's like a stock

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Speaker 1: man you people you know it Coke. Yeah, the brand

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Speaker 1: names that people know, those are always going to get that.

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Speaker 1: And then of course I'd be shocked if the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Dallas game doesn't get flexed. Yes, it's noons start for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys against the Cardinals. So and right now, the

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Speaker 1: game as the last game of the season seventeen eighteen

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Speaker 1: was eighteen weeks eighteen weeks, so the current Sunday night

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Speaker 1: game for week seventeen is Green Bay Minnesota. Green Bay

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Speaker 1: right now five and one Minnesota, three and three. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna get on later man. If but by weeks

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Speaker 1: I dare say, I kind of like Kirk Cousins, Bye

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Speaker 1: bye weeks by week seventeen, that's not popular. If it's

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Speaker 1: exactly pretty good. If it's week seventeen and Minnesota is

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Speaker 1: eliminated from contention, Okay, I'm with you there, and understand

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Speaker 1: the mentality of the Cowboys for NBC since I work

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Speaker 1: at NBC. If they can find a way, they find

483
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Speaker 1: a way. Remember one time one year they ended up

484
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Speaker 1: getting an extra Sunday and night football game. They flexed

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Speaker 1: into it, and it was Jameis Winston in Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was kind on the border, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: that's good enough for us. Do it. And then one

488
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Speaker 1: year the Cowboys and the Oakland Raiders were both struggling

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Speaker 1: a little bit, trying to kind of stay in the

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Speaker 1: playoff race, and they were still mathematics. Oh, they're mathematically like,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. And that was the one when

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Speaker 1: Gene Sarah Toour came out there with a piece of

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Speaker 1: paper and measured it in the car, ended up fumbling

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Speaker 1: the ball. But that was another Sunday night game where

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Speaker 1: it was like, well do you flex him? Because you

496
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Speaker 1: know they're not for sure playoffs teams. But all NBC

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Speaker 1: needed was enough NFL out there with a piece of paper.

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Speaker 1: You may, let's see you be so but you'd be

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Speaker 1: so nick, But now you'd be so nick picking on

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Speaker 1: something like that, and you can't make the call right.

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Speaker 1: And on the quarterbacksnake, Yeah, come on, you can't make

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Speaker 1: the call right for the Saints. I never forget that, man.

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Speaker 1: That's the first time I ever accused the League of

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Speaker 1: not doing it. Right, that's the bus. My first time

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Speaker 1: it changed, I felt about relse. I'm like, you got

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Speaker 1: to change, and they did old franchise. After the year

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Speaker 1: it was over. Yeah, but and now you can't do

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Speaker 1: it anymore, can you. No. They did it for a

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Speaker 1: year to appease Sean Payton in the Saints fan base

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Speaker 1: and went right on back to saying, yep, you take

511
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Speaker 1: what you're getting. That's what the league. That's to them

512
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Speaker 1: all the time, to take what you get sold to

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Speaker 1: your point there, yes, if, but unfortunately it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: not that at all. Um. I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: we get This is stat Trayvon Dixon. Just eighteen career games,

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Speaker 1: Diggs has tallied ten interceptions. He's a second Cowboy to

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Speaker 1: record ten picks in the first eighteen games of a career,

518
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Speaker 1: joining Everson Walls, who recorded twelve in the first eighteen games.

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Speaker 1: He's got ten and eighteen. Okay, what kind of zone

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Speaker 1: is that? Ah? Well, with me, it was just a

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Speaker 1: matter of survival because it was my rookie year. But

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Speaker 1: I guess the zone is you go into the game

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Speaker 1: at twenty one years old knowing your album mats physically,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just go in there with just a

525
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Speaker 1: whole different mentality of just just not giving up. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. You know, the Roy Greens

527
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Speaker 1: are gonna be coming at you, the Mark Clayton's are

528
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Speaker 1: going to be coming at you, the Mike Quicks covering

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Speaker 1: six seven. Hell call Michael, you know what it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: So you just have to just tune all of that

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Speaker 1: for your team. And when it comes down to it,

533
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Speaker 1: every the game is not about every moment being one

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Speaker 1: on one, you see. That's where people get overwhelmed in

535
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Speaker 1: a ball game. You have to be in the zone

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Speaker 1: to where you can calm yourself down. I always looked

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Speaker 1: at the game like this, I got four seconds. I

538
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Speaker 1: got four seconds to just ramp it up. After those

539
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Speaker 1: four seconds, I've got to ramp it back down mentally,

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Speaker 1: because now I have to realize, Okay, instead of being

541
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Speaker 1: to realize what the what the film showed me, what

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Speaker 1: is their pattern. I can't just go on me, Hell

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Speaker 1: call Michael, Mike, quit going at it. So you have

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Speaker 1: But with with Digs now his his his deal is

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Speaker 1: they have gotten the constant pressure. They've created the correct chaos,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. Up front with the Cowboys, I love

552
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Speaker 1: my front, my front four, but they were held back

553
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Speaker 1: a lot. And then they tell you that flex defense

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Speaker 1: will hold them back a lot. I'm back there running

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Speaker 1: around like a chicken. Right. You don't have that with

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Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. You don't you know Randy's coming, Randi's coming

557
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Speaker 1: that quarterbacks like, oh man, somebody's at my feet. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: coming here, boom. I let me just get rid of

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Speaker 1: it with with the flex unless the boys, unless they

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Speaker 1: them go to sixty one. I'm out there, man, just

562
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Speaker 1: just trying to survive, just trying to survive. And the

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Speaker 1: why is Everson that in the ring in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. I'm like, what did I'm gonna ask you?

632
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: What did you do? Hey? Can you stick to stick

633
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: to the question? Please? You just say that I changed,

634
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: So let's keep it changed. Let's keep it the pet go. Okay,

635
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: I just told you that I got eighty players, oh man. Yeah.

636
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: And see that's the thing. The ones that I have,

637
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: some of them I didn't play with because I've been

638
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: a cowboy fan, just like I'm in a Cowboy fan.

639
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: So you know, he started talking about you know, number

640
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: one man, Harvey Martin Broke. Why. It's just ridiculous. It's

641
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: just ridiculous. I mean, the man has one hundred and

642
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: twenty plus sacks. You've got guys in the Hall of

643
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Fame that have eighty five sacks. This man has a

644
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty sacks plus talk to him. I have

645
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: said this from the time I started watching a whole

646
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: truckload of Pittsburgh Steelers get into the Hall of Fame.

647
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl thirteen cost the Cowboys a lot of gold jackets.

648
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: And I feel is that all those Steelers who got

649
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: in those would be Cowboys because if the Cowboys had

650
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: an entire decade. Really, if the Cowboys win Super Bowl thirteen,

651
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: that is their third Super Bowl win of the decade,

652
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: the first NFL team to have three Super Bowl champion chips,

653
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: the first to to win it from you know, at

654
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: the standpoint, if they would have won back to back,

655
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: you would have eaten the Steelers, you know, want you

656
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: to split all those things that they needed if they win,

657
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: that day gone and the gold Jackets were there. So

658
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: that's why it takes Drew and Cliff Harris almost till

659
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: they're seventy years old to get in. And even when

660
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: they finally got in, Donnie Shell got in. They put

661
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: another Pittsburgh Steeler in there. God bless Donnie Shell. Okay,

662
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: glad you're in the Hall. But I'm just sitting to

663
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: myself saying, yeah, I'm just saying to myself, how many people, Okay,

664
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: how many picks you get. If you got to steal

665
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Curt in front of you, man, you're gonna get a lot.

666
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: But but but no, no, no, And I'm just and

667
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, good for him to get in. But

668
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: there's another example that I'm telling you. If if the

669
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: Steelers aren't the team of the seventies, if they don't

670
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: winch Bold, you're not getting that this is a byproduct

671
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: of winning. My thing is you're good. Why even or

672
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: why either Pittsburgh or Cowboys. I mean, you're putting in

673
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: players from the Raiders. You're putting in players from the

674
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: fucking Cardinals. Never made a dog on playoff game. So

675
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back into this one. The same things

676
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: happened at the Buffalo Bills. They have they have their

677
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: center Kent holl had a heck of a career, was

678
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: a good dog on off. It's a linement right there.

679
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Ken Old's really good when you don't win. Ever since,

680
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: this is what happens. I remember Paul Krause got in

681
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, was working in Los Angeles and

682
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: they had the press conference and he went in that

683
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: same class with LT. Yeah and at the time, no

684
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: still today, nobody's got more interceptions believe it's eighty one

685
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: interceptions all the time than Paul Krouse. And I said

686
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: to him, you're a statistical leader and you've been bypassed

687
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: this long, and he's just kind of chickers like, yeah,

688
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: I know. Paul Krause played on four Super Bowl teams

689
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: with never won mctinle Haf their center. I mean, my gosh,

690
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: by the time they rolled Mctinglehuf, the guy couldn't even speak.

691
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: But when you don't win super Bowls, when you lose,

692
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: it hurts. And I'm just I'm not saying it's right,

693
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: but it is. It is consistent when we start looking

694
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: at how guys didn't get in and and it's hard. Man.

695
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: You know what, all of that sounds good and ain't

696
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: none of it correct. I'm not saying it is, Nate.

697
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you when you when you you know,

698
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: when I when I look at a U, a guy

699
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: of your ilk, you are sportscast, you are a journalist.

700
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: You you don't get to vote. You know you don't

701
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: get to vote. But that's what I'm saying. Now you

702
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: have another notch, is don't you supposed to be a

703
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 1: little more responsible than to say, okay, this I'm making

704
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 1: up something. I'm not saying abody told me this. But

705
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: who did the Cowboys think they are? I dare them

706
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: to win twenty straight years and be in the NFC

707
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Championship game fifteen of those years. I dare you. So

708
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: you know what? Uh? What did Harvid Martin ever do

709
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: besides me a great personality? Not you. I can go

710
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: to the Steelers media, I can go to any media

711
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: person and say, man, why give me a reason? Why?

712
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: You know what? He'll hide behind his little so called

713
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: you know what my sources. Come on, man, be a

714
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: man or be a woman, and do the right thing now.

715
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: And we also go into this, Okay, there was a backlog,

716
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: and give Rick Goslin and Shrene Williams a lot of

717
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: they've been fighting for us. Okay, where you saw the

718
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: resumes that were clearly Hall of Fame worthy that just

719
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: had been bypassed. So you, Bob Hayes, why why didn't

720
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: it wait till the seniors community to get bobbed ray? Feel? Right? Man?

721
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: Come on, man, what you're doing? One? So? How many

722
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: all pros? Right? So you're watching you're watching a clean

723
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: up for the Cowboys happened because when they when they

724
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: were on the ballot, they weren't there. You finally get

725
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: on the ballot your last year, my last like a

726
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: hail Mary. They called it a hall marriage. So how

727
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: does how does this happen? That you've got the interception

728
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: career numbers that you do and you're not in the

729
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: room until the end? Who was in the room? You

730
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: know what? I gotta say this, guys, and I've said

731
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: it before, I'm just gonna say it for real. We

732
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: eat our own. We eat our own. You know, when

733
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: you look at the old regime, they didn't care anything

734
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: about any cowboys making the Hall of Fame. I only

735
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: care about was keeping your contracts down. And in order

736
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: to keep contracts down, you cannot laude your players abilities

737
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: to do whatever. You cannot laude the all plos. You know,

738
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go out there and tell rayphel right,

739
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: all these ten all pros. Man, this guy here is

740
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: amazing media. I'm coach Landry, I'm tech Strown, this guy,

741
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm gil Brad. This guy right here is the guy.

742
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well, here come negotiation time. What's up? Oh? Well, no, man,

743
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: we can't. Hey, you know we don't really just you know,

744
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you here. So man, I'm just saying,

745
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: this is what happens. I've heard this from fellow Cowboy

746
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers. What took Melvin for us so long?

747
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: What took Rayphiel right so long? I've heard it from

748
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: cowboy NFL Hall of Famers. What you said may be true, Nate,

749
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: may be totally wrong about what he said. About what

750
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: you said, it was very articular because some of it

751
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: could be true. But when it comes down to it,

752
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: you gotta look within. No one pushed I'll just start

753
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: with me. No one pushed Everson Walls for Hall of Fame.

754
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: No one. We had no Hall of Fame writer here

755
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: in Dallas pushing for Harvey Martin. Correct. Okay, so let's

756
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: just be real about that. Correct, all right? And that's

757
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: why I went and said in a kind way, Rick

758
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: Goslin shrine Williams. Yeah, thank god for them, have done

759
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: a cleanup, clean up. But don't it take how many

760
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: votes to get in? But here's the thing, Nate, it

761
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: all comes from the organization. The organization has to push you. Yeah,

762
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I understand important to put you in the ring of arm. Yes, more,

763
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: But you can't tell me that at least Sacks. But

764
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: Harvid Martin ain't get it. Still, you can't come super

765
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Yes, thank you, so so. And he's from Dallas.

766
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Everybody here, everybody that I agrapher is a leader or

767
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: some type of MVP or some type of a type

768
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: of decades. Harby was born before the Dallas Cowboys was born.

769
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: Can I also tell you another thing, especially when I

770
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: was there in Canton, that I heard how many more

771
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys we need to put in here? The same many

772
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: you got Stillers? Okay, Raiders And I'm just and I'm

773
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: just telling you now, Raider fan says they've been getting snubbed.

774
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: Raider fan is upset. Now I did have no he's

775
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: in his daughter's name. Well, he died and then they

776
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: put up okay, which was another shame. You got guilty

777
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: in to put him in the Hall man Um. Same

778
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: thing with Cliff you know I'm talking about Cowboy. Yeah,

779
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: go ahead. And so one writer told me said, for

780
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders, they had one super Bowl during that time.

781
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: How many guys were getting in for just one Super Bowl?

782
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: So this this is an issue with a whole lot

783
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: of teams. And when you're there the Hall of Fame,

784
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: and you're talking about voters. Think of voters, think of voters.

785
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Like Congress, they're there for their constituents, right, and now

786
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: it's a whole political battle, remember that, Remember that whole

787
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver as well. Michael Irvin's not gonna get able

788
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: to go put Chris Carter into Andreare had to wait

789
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: and then was tim brats vote for this guy until

790
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: you vote for my guy. I mean, there's so much

791
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: going on there with me between Goslin was trying to

792
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: work with sal Antonio South Pallentoni. Yeah, he was pushing

793
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: Dawkins and uh gosl was trying to push me, and

794
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: he just told uh guyspel Goose. He said, no, I'm

795
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: not voting. Yeah, Bob Hayes, I'm sorry. Miami Dolphins, the

796
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Stealers, and your Raiders owned from the seventies,

797
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: eighties and most of the nineties. I don't want to

798
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: hear it. Yeah it look Minnesota. Minnesota had four great

799
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: teams under but Bud Grant, they've got a few guys in.

800
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's it is. There are some

801
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: fantastic now I go back into somebody had mentioned Ken

802
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Riley Cincinnati. Oh, come on, man sixty five as a

803
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: cornerback in the Cincinnati market. Can't get in. Ken Anderson,

804
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: an MVP who went to a Super Bowl, he can't

805
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: get in. So the list of guys that people come

806
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: with another name of the Hall of Fame, I kept

807
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: here for the Denver contingent, like where's Randy Gratti said,

808
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I was going to say that where's ran So while

809
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: you're right about Harvey Martin, Nay, you're right about what

810
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Ever since candidacy, my guys are leaders and MVPs, and

811
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm a major sporting events, not not somebody that doesn't

812
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: played eighty years. I'm talking about impact short term and alone.

813
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: See when when when when? I never had an issue

814
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: because my thing was the list is short and it's distinguished.

815
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: Nobody has been put in there that don't deserve to

816
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: be in there. Until this last four times I'm seeing

817
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: people like hold On. I used to block this dude

818
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: in the dirt. I used to crush this I used

819
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: to watch film on him on two on Wednesday and

820
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: didn't watch no more film the rest of the week.

821
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: And here in the prop, here in the Hall of Fame. Man, real,

822
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I went to the Hall of Fame for the Real

823
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: Fame game. I mentioned this on mix shots. I'm looking

824
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: at the T shirt of the two classes that went

825
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: in there. Come on, I saw Atwater's name up there,

826
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: and that's all I had to see. I'm ready to

827
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: go back home. That that just got me. That just

828
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: got me. I mean, I liked the kids once again,

829
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: and they I mean when I didn't make it, they

830
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: said wall was I thought you made it, said you

831
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: should have made it. I said, maybe we all should

832
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: make it. That's not the point. At Water hell of

833
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: a player. But I see him in there before me.

834
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man. That's when my pride comes out and

835
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold up, man, what is going on here?

836
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: Because I tried my best not to pay attention to

837
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: that crap until I was in. Now, once I was,

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Speaker 1: they were trying to put me in. Then I started

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Speaker 1: noticing all of these discrepancies that I saw, and one

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Speaker 1: other that I still see to this day wasn't happening

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Speaker 1: when I was going in. How are you gonna put

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Speaker 1: John Lynch? Is that his name? Yeah? Before Darren Woodson,

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Speaker 1: Before Darren Woodson. I go back into this whole voting

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Speaker 1: block and the politics to go in. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: a TV show? Is that what it is? You gotta

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Speaker 1: be on TV? Huh? You gotta be an announcer. All

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Speaker 1: I remembering football, I never had a problem. How he

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Speaker 1: long is in? I never break. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: was a good player. They had a good team. But

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Speaker 1: how are you gonna put him in before? If you

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Speaker 1: put how We in, then too tall Jones needs to

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Speaker 1: be in. Let's just be real. I'm gonna stick to

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Speaker 1: my to this here. This guy led the league how

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Speaker 1: many times? That's impact. It's two ways I heard. You

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Speaker 1: can get in impact the league in an unknown way

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Speaker 1: in a short term are over long term? Be a

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Speaker 1: play of high standard. He did it every year, Hard

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Speaker 1: Martin did it every year every year. Nate, you are correct,

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Speaker 1: and I go in. I don't care. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. As long as I can get me

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Speaker 1: about five or six more cowboys there, I'm in. I

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Speaker 1: go I'm in. But one of the arguments that I

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Speaker 1: had kept having for Cliff and Drew was based on

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Speaker 1: the standards you gave of right, thank you, they've met

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Speaker 1: the criteria. So is there hypocrisy? Is their frustration, of

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Speaker 1: course the moving of the gold post. So this is

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Speaker 1: what it is. But anyway, Nick knew fun to work

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Speaker 1: with you. I'm blocking half of the dudes. Man, I

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Speaker 1: don't crushed half of K on the way out. I

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Speaker 1: didn't watching I will stop watching filmy. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: be over. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.