WEBVTT - Missing Pieces

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Welcome to That's Messed Up, an sv podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I am Lisa and.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to our listeners. She knows who she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to go back to the Magic Castle here in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. I went a few days ago and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. I really fucking love up close magic. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the best.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been there before? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, that was probably my fifth time going, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>fifth or six.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Cara, I didn't know you were such

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<v Speaker 2>a magic head.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a magic head.

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<v Speaker 1>But also people love to go and I'm always like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go with you. And you know, I wrote for

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<v Speaker 1>this show on Netflix called Magic for Humans, so I

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<v Speaker 1>know a bunch of magicians from that. Plus I know

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<v Speaker 1>a guy you know as well who's like a magician

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<v Speaker 1>comedian who used to come and perform at the Magic

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<v Speaker 1>Castle and like just for everybody. So the Magic Castle

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge castle in the center of fucking Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's so wild, it looks like a castle, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a society of magicians also people like jugglers and

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<v Speaker 1>mentalists and like other kind of like magic adjacent people

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<v Speaker 1>can be in it, and you have to be a member.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in order to attend, you have to either

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<v Speaker 1>be staying at the Magic Castle Hotel, which is attached

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<v Speaker 1>to it, or you have to be in by a member.

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<v Speaker 1>So whenever you want to go, you can't just be

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<v Speaker 1>like beeboop and like order tickets. You got to like

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<v Speaker 1>find someone who knows. So I have been lucky that

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<v Speaker 1>I've known a bunch of magic people. Plus we had

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<v Speaker 1>this listener that reached out that wanted to send me

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<v Speaker 1>and Lisa. Hopefully she can give us other invites when

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa's back in town, and I'll take you we'll all

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<v Speaker 1>go because our other friend wants to go as well,

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<v Speaker 1>our mutual friend. So I've literally just had different opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to go. But the cool thing is if you get invited,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go. You have to have dinner. The

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<v Speaker 1>dinner is a bit pricey, you have to pay a cover.

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<v Speaker 1>If your friend is performing there, you can just get

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<v Speaker 1>on their list and you can just go have a drink,

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<v Speaker 1>watch the shows, and then leave. That's what I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, because I the whole doing the whole meal,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything just gets really pricey. That's all like I

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<v Speaker 1>really like when I know someone that's performing there and

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<v Speaker 1>I can be like, just put me on your list

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can just pop in and that's the best.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a dress code. You have to dress nicely. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wear any kind of denim. You cannot wear a

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<v Speaker 1>leather jacket. Like there's it's a very strict dress code.

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<v Speaker 1>If women have to wear dress or gowns, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to wear pants, you have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>matching blazer with it, apparently as.

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<v Speaker 2>Long as it's not leather. I don't understand the no

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<v Speaker 2>leather jacket of at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I know because they don't want moto. They said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>no moto jacket and I was like, this leather jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wore it to the Magic Castle once like

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago, and I had to take it

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<v Speaker 1>off and I was told take it off, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is like the most expensive thing.

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<v Speaker 4>In my wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like so wild that I have to And they

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<v Speaker 1>gave me like a blazer to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so shocked. So women can't even wear pants.

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<v Speaker 2>They can, they just have to wear a blazer with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And men have to wear like suits and ties and

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<v Speaker 2>you can wear like a bolo.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh there's zippers. Their issue is zippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there issue is no no zippers for the jackets.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not allowed to have a zipper, So leather

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<v Speaker 2>or not, as long as there's a zipper, you're not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Men were wearing tuxedos when we went, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>some people wear tuxes or my husband's always warn a

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<v Speaker 2>suit when we've gone.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, no rompers.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, you can wear a jumpsuit like I've

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<v Speaker 1>worn a jumpsuit, but it has to have a jacket

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<v Speaker 1>with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a blazer with it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, because it says defined as garments,

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<v Speaker 2>combining a shirt with attached shorts. Oh, jumpsuit is paying Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rompers is more like the short. Yeah, so jumpsuit is okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no logos, leave your fendy purse at home. Yes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a wild like situation, but we went and

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<v Speaker 2>you can go. So there are small magic shows that

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<v Speaker 2>happen in small rooms. There's big main stage magic shows,

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<v Speaker 2>but then there's also up close magic where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like you sitting at a table with three other people

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<v Speaker 2>and a magician and they just do fucking magic card

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<v Speaker 2>tricks in front of you and they're so amazing. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's my favorite part. Like I love the up close magic,

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<v Speaker 2>just sitting like three feet from a magician. Like he

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<v Speaker 2>did this fucking trick, this guy where he like got

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to think of a number and then he added

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<v Speaker 2>the day's date or something. He added everybody at the

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<v Speaker 2>table's number and it ended up spelling out the date

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<v Speaker 2>and time that it was at that exact moment. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's some kind of fucking math trick, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it blew everybody's mind, Like I did one once

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<v Speaker 2>where he had me write my name on a card

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<v Speaker 2>and he somehow got it into a box in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the table without like ever putting his hands

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<v Speaker 2>under the table or near the box or anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was my handwriting, and it was a card that

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote my name on. I was actually carrying that

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<v Speaker 2>card at my wallet until very recently. I like that

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<v Speaker 2>you've moved on from the dress code. I'm still on

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<v Speaker 2>the dress coat because you can. Yeah, no crop tops

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<v Speaker 2>and no sea through fabrics, so no sheer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to make sure when I bring people, I

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<v Speaker 1>like have to send to something and be like, please

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<v Speaker 1>read this. And actually the last time I went before

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<v Speaker 1>this time, you know what I wore was the exact

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<v Speaker 1>outfit I wore to our New York show, like an

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<v Speaker 1>Alice and Olivia, nice sparkly top that's like very New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve, sparkly disco ball vibes with like nice slacks,

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<v Speaker 1>like pants and heels. And they were like, give us

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<v Speaker 1>one second, we just need to check on your outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had thrown a dress in my car just

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<v Speaker 1>in case, Like I had just thrown a dress. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like just in case they give me shit because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't wear the blazer, and they let me get through.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because my shirt was like very sparkly and

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<v Speaker 1>like more fancy, you know. I just the blazer of

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<v Speaker 1>it bothers me. I know, no, and it's very old school.

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<v Speaker 1>And also there's not a lot of women magicians, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of a bummer. Like they have pictures all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place of like the numbers and old times,

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<v Speaker 1>all these magicians, and I've never seen a woman perform there,

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<v Speaker 1>though I know some do, I just haven't. And even

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls, it's just like not that many female magicians.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that we could break the mystical glass ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>of the magic world and more women would be into magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I was actually just thinking about this this week,

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<v Speaker 2>not even about magic, but about how like once a

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<v Speaker 2>woman hosts late night or has this like the blazer,

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<v Speaker 2>like the the going masculine to look nice is confusing

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I know that's some people's comfort, like I

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<v Speaker 2>just I like to wear dresses, but it is a

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<v Speaker 2>wild that, like, I guess I'm hosting a show, give

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<v Speaker 2>me a blazer and a pant, And I don't get

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<v Speaker 2>why it's like so far from the feminine when like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a girl does comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird. It's just like I looking through all these special.

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<v Speaker 2>And like everyone just leans into this masculine wear and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's because like for me that would

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<v Speaker 1>feel to me if I was hosting a late night show,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I might lean towards that also, just

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<v Speaker 1>because dresses might be like people are looking at your legs,

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<v Speaker 1>people are seeing how it fits around your tits. People

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<v Speaker 1>are like kind of examining your body in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways when you're on TV, and there's something about

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<v Speaker 1>just like the pants and the jacket that feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, she's wearing a red suit. Moving on. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it doesn't call as much attention. Kara, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>You think a suit is gonna stop people from talking

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<v Speaker 2>shit about women's body.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's But I think it would reduce a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it would like reduce a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, like if you're I don't know, that's something I

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<v Speaker 1>could I could say for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Chelsea Handler's the only one, like, you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>wore pants, but it was still fun Like I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about what you wore to watch what happens live, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, that's such a fun out fit.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't see that often.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel people lean into this masculine way of dressing

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<v Speaker 2>when we're in these male dominated things instead of fully

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<v Speaker 2>going to the feminine. Because I'm thinking of Taylor, Tomlinson,

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<v Speaker 2>Amber Ruffin. Yeah, yeah, they're wearing mostly suit stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was kind of talking about. Like Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Beth Burne's out putting out a special and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>vintage little Versati dress.

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<v Speaker 4>But like and I was like, oh, that's so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's so rare to see people go full out

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<v Speaker 2>feminine when they're performing stand like, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and so is the Magic Castle. They want

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking blazer? Yeah, I mean I want to see magic.

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<v Speaker 2>But honestly, this is a turn off for me. How

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<v Speaker 2>was the food?

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<v Speaker 4>What did you order? Like a lasagna? What did you get? No,

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<v Speaker 4>the food is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wildly got I mean it's basically a steakhouse menu.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like very meat heavy, but they do have like

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<v Speaker 1>a full vegetarian section. I got a bolognaise with impossible meat,

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<v Speaker 1>and after I ordered it, I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake, Like what am I doing? And I actually

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<v Speaker 1>loved it, and I let everybody take a bite and

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<v Speaker 1>they like loved it too, like it was really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you love impossible meat. I know, why would you

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<v Speaker 2>not trust the process?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I don't really eat impossible meat wriggled

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<v Speaker 1>up like that, like I eat it as a burger,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I mean? Like I don't eat

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<v Speaker 1>it like in a sauce or crumbled a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was worried, but I had nothing to worry about.

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<v Speaker 4>It was delicious. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also like a truffle sort of hotcho at

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<v Speaker 1>pepe kind of thing that I think a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people got that I almost got because I've had it before,

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<v Speaker 1>really good. And then a friend got a fish that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't love. But I think people like the red

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<v Speaker 1>meat there when I've gone before, people like their steaks.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's that if you were worried about impossible me.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe someone ordered a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fish at the Magic Castle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, that was the last minute move on her part,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it was a mistake. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is kind of fun to go to something where

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<v Speaker 1>you have to like dress up, like we don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't ever have to like look at

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<v Speaker 1>a dress code for much of anything. And it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>in LA because even in LA in New York, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going to some restaurants and being like, oh, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>here is very dressed up, and like this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. I think like even the fanciest restaurant has

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<v Speaker 1>like a tech bro wearing cargo shorts and a hoodie.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's like I've been to even some really nice

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<v Speaker 1>places where it's like most people are dressed up, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a big deal if you're not, So it

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<v Speaker 1>is weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about the tech bro. I saw TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I remember the person's name, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was a picture of Zuckerberg and.

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<v Speaker 4>Some other you know, maybe a Bill Gates kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was like, Bro, like the jig is up.

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<v Speaker 4>We know you're rich, we know you're rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Wearing a shitty, ugly T shirt does not take away

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<v Speaker 2>that you're worth a one hundred and fifty billion dollars And

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<v Speaker 2>can we have some fun? Can you actually like make

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<v Speaker 2>us look like And so then she went back in

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<v Speaker 2>time and just how old timey rich people dressed and

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful homes and ancient Italy or whatever, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>we would appreciate the billionaires doing that a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of effort.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Living on these modern gross gray You look like fucking shit.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, not only are you richer than all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you're spitting it in our face by looking terrible. Put

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<v Speaker 2>on a fucking gold put on like be Mariah Carey,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose them, or.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you want to go quiet luxury, that still

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<v Speaker 1>looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just like crumbled up, And it's like, we

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<v Speaker 2>still know that you're evil in trying to own all

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<v Speaker 2>of Hawaii and take TikTok away from us. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay creators, but you're not cricking us, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the fact that Mark Zuckerberg's head is not

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<v Speaker 2>on a steak aka Ned what's his name? Ned Stark

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<v Speaker 2>style is what's wrong with society. You hate Mark Zuckerberg.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he should be tried for war crimes. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we should pull him out of his house and

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<v Speaker 2>murder him in front of his children. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>what I believe. So you can leave that in I

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<v Speaker 2>know the editors are probably scared. That is what I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch I'm gonna be dead. I'm gonna be like the

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<v Speaker 2>Boeing guy, just kill in my car. They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>like she was upset. Yes, you're gonna be the Boeing whistleblower.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch out, Lisa, watch your back. Are they even gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try to do something? I mean, honey, you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>doors and wheels off your plane, but you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can just murder the key witness.

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<v Speaker 4>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so it's like everything. I always say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's so house of cards. I'm always like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we always look to Russia. It's like, wow, it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, what's happening here? And loudly that's an

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<v Speaker 2>epscene and.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this No.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared is reading a book about Stalin and he says

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. He's reading a book about Stalin and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, it used to just be like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say anything bad about the common and then

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<v Speaker 1>they take you out to a field and shoot you,

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<v Speaker 1>and like this kind of shit's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like sometimes here too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, publicly, I mean this Boeing thing is so public

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<v Speaker 2>that is zero fear to do that. Just like in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of a trial, that's an SVU episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet next.

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<v Speaker 2>Year or even in jail, I bet I bet this

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<v Speaker 2>season or next season, there will be a Boeing episode

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<v Speaker 2>because mid trial. With the nation obsessed with true crime

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<v Speaker 2>like we are, I don't know how they think they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get away with it, but they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, we were talking about la school whatever

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<v Speaker 2>in our personal life. Schools are hard, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize In New York. We have friends here. Their kids

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't get into preschool. There's just not enough slots.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that. Yeah, but thank god the National Guard

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<v Speaker 2>is on the train tracks. Yeah god, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the National Guards there, right, And then there's children that

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah, no school for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah here too.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot get into your homeschool, and they'll just be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll send you to another school. But it could be

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<v Speaker 1>along like a way away, like it's not your neighborhood school.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's crazy, it's crazy. I didn't realize how.

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<v Speaker 2>For granted I took my childhood, I go to that

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<v Speaker 2>school because it's close to my parents, and I get

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<v Speaker 2>a great education. Hell yes, yeah, just to think that,

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<v Speaker 2>like our friends are moving out of the city because

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<v Speaker 2>they can't afford child's care and that he didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>into preschool so they're truly moving.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what, it's insanity. What well, I was just gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it is because a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>choosing private schools and they don't support the public schools,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially in wealthy cities like you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>not just trickles.

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<v Speaker 2>Down these fucking Christian fanatics, Like it's wild to watch

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<v Speaker 2>them win. It's really wild. It's all connected. The I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>like the turn back to homeschooling and staying on all

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is not an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's coinciding that in Missouri now you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>divorced if you're pregnant. Oh my god, that article that

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<v Speaker 2>you would Did you send that to me or just

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<v Speaker 2>post it on your Instagram? I just reposted it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when it was all getting passed. That made

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<v Speaker 2>me shiver. That was crazy, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't like, oh, I just want to homeschool my kid.

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<v Speaker 2>All those videos about homeschooling kids always in the last

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<v Speaker 2>ten seconds, it's I can't have them with all the

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<v Speaker 2>queers in public.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. It always there's always a twist.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never like, hey, my kid's a little weird, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not that social, they had a hard time in school,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just works better for our family to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>It never ends there. And then it's like and we

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<v Speaker 2>have to make sure that we pray every day. There's

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<v Speaker 2>always a twist at the end. And it's just really scary.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been trying to close public schools forever and it's succeeded.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really talking about people that are just like

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<v Speaker 1>paying thirty five thousand dollars a year for their kids

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<v Speaker 1>to go to like upper crust like kindergarten or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did not think about the homeschooling part of

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<v Speaker 1>it either.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you're right, there's a comic here.

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<v Speaker 2>A good friend, I would say, and we were hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out and his son just got into the best of

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<v Speaker 2>the best school in Manhattan and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight thousand dollars a year starting with kindergarten.

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<v Speaker 1>What yes, yep, that's insanity. That's just like a level

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<v Speaker 1>of money that I can't I can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then they all pretend that all kids have

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<v Speaker 2>equal footing and if you just work hard, you can

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<v Speaker 2>make it while your kids at a sixty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars a year kindergarten. Yeah, it's truly. Why does this

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<v Speaker 2>always happen? We can't evolve into dystopia?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we always keep talking about how terrible the

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<v Speaker 1>world is?

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<v Speaker 2>But someone was like, oh, are you going to see

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<v Speaker 2>the new show or movie called Civil War?

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<v Speaker 4>I go absolutely not. Oh the Kirsten Duncet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know what it is, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna watch it. It's basically a civil war

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<v Speaker 2>here in America. It's like it's too close to home.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like something that could really happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's sickly why they probably made it, why

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<v Speaker 1>people will go see it. But listen, let's let's turn

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<v Speaker 1>away from all this darkness and turn to our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>show of light and Rainbow's Law and Order SVU.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, such a relaxing good time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, we did not make it to the tent at

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<v Speaker 2>Rockefeller Center to celebrate the twenty fifth year of SVU.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would like to say that they were selling

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<v Speaker 2>you know bracelets, and they all went to the Joyful

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<v Speaker 2>Heart Foundation, Murshka's charity. And I hope so many people

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<v Speaker 2>want bracelets. But I did feel smug, I did feel cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Our listeners did it first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you guys have been making friendship bracelets for months

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<v Speaker 1>and months. I literally just found my what would Olivia?

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<v Speaker 1>My WWOBD bracelet that somebody made for me in my

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<v Speaker 1>kid's room.

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<v Speaker 2>No worry, girl, I'm still saving Mother's juice for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I got it. I want it. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in Liza's car. And by the way, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a Toronto listener. I think that gave us Mother's juice

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<v Speaker 1>and I want it so badly. And it's has literally

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<v Speaker 1>moved from It has come from Toronto back to La

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<v Speaker 1>moved with Lee's across the country and I will be

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<v Speaker 1>collecting it when I see her there at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this month.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I cannot wait. Wait am I seen

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<v Speaker 2>you end of March or end of April.

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<v Speaker 1>And of April. But this episode comes out April two.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby Rosie's being my god, Oh my god, time is

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<v Speaker 1>a fly.

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<v Speaker 4>Time is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It just really sucks that you're gonna come here right

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<v Speaker 2>before I'm gonna like fly back to La with.

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<v Speaker 4>You right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, we're gonna get started. Great episode coming at you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh right.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be doing the episode today called Missing Pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>Season thirteen, episode five, And there's gonna be some missing

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<v Speaker 2>pieces in this episode as well, because we start in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of like a character that's introduced at a

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<v Speaker 2>different time whatever. But you know, it's a fresh Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>season October twenty eleven and done.

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<v Speaker 4>Done. We're at a Halloween party.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, there's a face paint section balloon animals, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring up I think balloon designs and blue

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<v Speaker 2>animals are coming back because I did book a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>room recently at like a chic you know, like a

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<v Speaker 2>fun little boutique hotel, and one of the extras that

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<v Speaker 2>you can choose for your room is balloon floral bouquets.

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<v Speaker 2>Why it's an extra forty five dollars what yeah for

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<v Speaker 2>a bouquet of balloon flowers? Because I sent it to

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<v Speaker 2>my friend, I was like, should I spring extra for this?

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<v Speaker 4>Ha ha?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because then I'm sorry to the listeners that are annoyed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think this has to do. It's a Toronto

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<v Speaker 2>room because I went, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I should go check out hotels right now for Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I know it's November, but like, why am I waiting?

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<v Speaker 4>And then I went and oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, seventy five percent of hotels are fully

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<v Speaker 2>sold out.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was like Hilton that's a ten minute walk

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<v Speaker 2>to the stadium. And then I looked and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course there's no rooms available.

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<v Speaker 4>What was I thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>But I found a hotel that I was familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>because I brunched there once. But all of these hotels

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<v Speaker 2>like good, I would put my avails and then they

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<v Speaker 2>would say, well how about next weekend? And then the

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<v Speaker 2>only ones that are available at certain hotels are like

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<v Speaker 2>a minimum fifteen, eighteen, nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Hundred dollars a night.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's how she's stimulating the economy and all

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<v Speaker 1>these places.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the capitalism of it all is really tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got a room at least, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think this Taylor Swift concert's actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna help me save money overall, because I have to

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<v Speaker 2>not spend money because also, gotcha, two of our friends

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>are having fortieth birthday parties that are travel based in September.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is three huge fall trips for me where I am

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, maybe next time I want to buy

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a little troll, I won't, I'll chill out. Yeah, maybe

0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 2>next time I see a little nick knack or I

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know, a tank top I don't need. I'll think

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 2>about this hotel. But anyways, but yeah, the hotel I book, so.

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.720
<v Speaker 4>You can order a balloon bouquet.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild.

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I did not do that for extra money, is wild?

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.199
<v Speaker 1>I just don't don't. I don't know who that's for.

0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess if like you really want to surprise your

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.920
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend who's a clown enthusiast.

0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Even like kids, like I don't know, even if you

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.560
<v Speaker 1>had kids, it's like forty five dollars for balloon animal

0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Like no.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's what I mean.

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like coming back, Like because my friend

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in high school, her mom did all these balloon centerpieces

0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and center she did bar and bot mitz was mostly

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.680
<v Speaker 2>one time we did Disney on ice. I got to help,

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but cool balloon stuff, like, I don't know, I think

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 2>it might be coming back. Okay, why else would I

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 2>hip hotel in Toronto be offering a balloon bouquet.

0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 4>That's like so out there for me.

0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely something another hotel's not offering.

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:00.399
<v Speaker 4>Say that.

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. So Calvin's in this episode. For those

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 2>who don't know, there's an episode with Maria Bello and

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.840
<v Speaker 2>this is Maria Bello's son, and basically Benson shows up

0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>and is like, I need to talk to your mother

0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.959
<v Speaker 2>and she's like why, what's going on and basically reveals

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>that her mother was a rape victim and she is

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the product of that rape and then she realizes why

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>her mother hated her, and then she kills the rapist.

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>She's on the lamb, and she leaves her son with Benson,

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 2>and so that's the that's the tale.

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 4>And he thinks he's a little too old for this.

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Party, and then Grandma Grandpa there and they're just like, ah,

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:42.879
<v Speaker 2>don't be rude, and Benson's like, nah, he's right, what

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 2>do you want to do?

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Calvin?

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 2>And then we cut to Tomorrow and his daughter Zara,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has the most enviable costume of all time,

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Jasmine the Princess. Amorrow has vampire teeth and they're taking

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>photos on a very decorated Porsche and Tomorrow does not

0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>like the jasmine costume. He's like, she's too young. Why

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 2>is her midge showing? And his mom's like whatever, she

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.800
<v Speaker 2>likes it. And she pets Zara's head and it's like

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.199
<v Speaker 2>shut up, and he's like, why can't she just be

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a ghost. And then it goes straight too, I don't

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.360
<v Speaker 2>want you eating all this junk. I mean, why does

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 2>he ruin everything everything? And then his mom is like, yeah,

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>but you ate so much candy when you were a

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>kid and you always threw up, and he goes, yeah,

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 2>that's my point, mo, And that is a funny moment.

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 4>That is a funny moment. I do like that.

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Where it's like, yeah, I don't want my kid to puke.

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I remember feeling like shit. So then Rollin's and Finn

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.199
<v Speaker 2>they aren't playing trick or treat games.

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 4>They're at work and they're looking for pedophiles.

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:39.400
<v Speaker 2>So you know, they knock on the door, they trick

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 2>or treat and they make sure that the sex offenders are.

0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Not tricking and treating with the children.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if this is real, Like do you think

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.359
<v Speaker 1>that the cops go out on Halloween and like double

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.080
<v Speaker 1>check that like sex offenders are not answering.

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Hold, I'm gonna google it. I don't even know what

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>to google. Do cops do knock and knocks?

0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Do cops check on pedophiles on Halloween?

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>While US Marshall's partner with officers and detectives throughout the year,

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the Halloween holiday presents a unique opportunity for law enforcement

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 2>agencies to work as a team to identify and locate

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 2>non compliance sex offenders.

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh when Halloween means a personal visit from the police.

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.400
<v Speaker 1>An article in The Atlantic registered sex offenders are subject

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to special rules on Halloween night, it says, yeah.

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 2>And Atlanta has an article law enforcement keeps an eye close.

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 2>There's all these local news articles. Here's one in Jersey.

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think it happens. Yeah, wow, Yeah, there's

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a CNN on Halloween. Some states take extra safety measures

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.959
<v Speaker 2>to keep sex offenders away from kids. Oh my god,

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:49.479
<v Speaker 2>this county is Butts County. How dare you so it

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 2>is real? It is real?

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Oh? Whoa.

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 2>In Missouri, some sex offenders are required to post a

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 2>sign stating no candy or treats at this residence. Okay,

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that's good. I thought the sign said sex offender. Like

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad. It just says, I don't do candy. Yeah,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>you do not want to come in here.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Virginia keeps them by holds mandatory educational sessions and drug

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and alcohol screenings on Halloween.

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh but several sex offenders sued the city of Jacksonville, Florida,

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 2>because they said it's unconstitutional. But yeah, wild wow, I

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>mean not wild, but it makes sense. I mean, the

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 2>kids are coming directly to your house.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>In California, it's called Operation Boo, where they have officers go.

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 4>Check up on them. Wow.

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Although what the link to Operation Boo is dead,

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>so maybe this is a ten year old article, so

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's maybe not anymore. But wild wow, Okay, interesting.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>So they knock knock, and heels I'm not supposed to

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>open the door, which is suspicious, like if it was

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>a kid, you could just be silent. So yeah, it's

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>like a crazy answer, but he opens the door. Rollins

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 2>calls him a good boy, he knows the rules, he

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.560
<v Speaker 2>knows the drill, and then fingas, see you next to

0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.360
<v Speaker 2>your baby, And so we cut to our SVU girlfriend

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>who has been in three episodes and in the show Insecure.

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Her name is Lisa Joyce.

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 2>She's been in the episode Avatar, and she was in

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>an episode if I knew then what I know now

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously a Warren Light era episode title. Yes, So she's

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>running into a bodega and being chatty with the guy.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>She wants diapers, but then she goes, well, my baby

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>skin is sensitive.

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 4>Do you have any organic? You're at a bodega, babe? What?

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And I get now, like, shit's so gentrified that there

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>are like fancy or bodega's little stores with organic, but

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I saw this bodega. This is for emergencies only when

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you got to run and like, your you know what,

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are we doing here?

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 4>She's like, well, can you just.

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Check in the back, And it's like you don't think

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 2>this guy knows the inventory?

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 4>Like this is his life, dude. Like the back is where.

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>They have all the expensive diapers that they're not putting out,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Like that's so crazy.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 4>And the bodega does pass the vibe check.

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>There is a pumpkin decoration, and you know, it always

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 2>makes me mad when they don't, like on SVU acknowledge holidays,

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm really glad that they are. Yeah, and now

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 2>it cuts back to Finn and Rollins and you know,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 2>another knock knock, but this pedophile like opens the door

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>dressed like a full clown with a bowl of candy,

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>just like you fool.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 4>They call him Bozo and they haul Assassin.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>And so while our girl is checking out with diapers,

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>we're back to her.

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 4>She's looking towards the door.

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Then she screams and runs out, and now it cuts

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 2>to Tomorrow a Zara trick or treating, and she says

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>thank you in a super cute voice to a woman

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 2>who gives her candy, and then Tomorrow asked what she got,

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 2>she says candy corn, which both Kara and I do

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>really like candy corn. Yes, but I wouldn't say it's

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 2>our number one favorite, and Amarro goes, oh, that's my favorite.

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 2>This dude just wants us not to like, like he

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>is so hot, and it's like, can you just stop

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>having the worst thing of everything?

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 4>But whatever, he gets a paying sodaes Benson.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>They all have to go to work, so she ditches Calvin,

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>he ditches Zara, and it's time to get to work.

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>So Lisa Joyce is crying to uniform cops that someone

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>stole her car and stole her baby, and someone has

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>her son.

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 4>And it hits the credits. We're back and it's all

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 4>hands on deck.

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Cragan's in a trench coat and Benson and Tomorrow are

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>trailing behind. Tons of cops are working, and Craigan's like, fuck,

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 2>a baby missing on Halloween?

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Any good news?

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>You work at SVU, Like, but yeah, so it was

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a three month old. He was in the car. We

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>have no footage, no evidence, no nothing. Craigan also doesn't

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>like that they would even leave the baby in the car.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 2>He goes, who are these people anyway? So it's Tina

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and Tim their Taurus. They drove down from Buffalo to

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 2>see the Halloween parade, which I famously thought I was

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 2>booked to co host for the news, but I was

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>just there for a news interview to say, look at

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>my costume, and that was humiliating. I told a lot

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>of people to tune in. Okay, So where was the dad?

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 2>The dad was looking at the rental apartment that they

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>like booked for this trip that they had, and the

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 2>mom though, she's not going to the precinct without the dad,

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 2>like she's just she's not doing it. Craigan says, well,

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.199
<v Speaker 2>she has no choice. Take her in but she's smoking

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a cigarette. She hasn't talked to Tim in an hour,

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>she's not calling her back, so she's flipping out. So

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>then the bodega dude is like, she's a good mother.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>She wanted organic diapers. That's all it takes. It's like,

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you didn't even see the baby. Yeah, But he says

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 2>that she was looking out the door and like, you know,

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>looked like she was in a hurry, but he did

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>not see the car. So they are forcing her to

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the station, and right in that moment, Tim runs in.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>She explains everything to him. He flips out. He's about

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>to fucking attack her in front of all these cops.

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Amaro pulls them away. Benson takes the girl and she's like,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm the only one who can calm him down. And

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, I think tomorrow can do a good job,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, no, he doesn't like cops. And it's like, ohkay, hey,

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>no one else does either get in line to him.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>So she's getting stressed with all the questions and Benson goes, listen,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you might think details don't matter, but they matter, and

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>it could help us find your son, Ali. We need

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>your help. Let's go. So the dad tells tomorrow that

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>he was getting screwed out of two hundred dollars because

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>he showed up late to the rental and there were

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>already six gay guys staying there. I don't know why

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it matters, you know, if they're gay or not, but

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a nice character touch, you know what

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean. We know a little more about this guy.

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have a lot of gay friends. He asked

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 2>if they rented the room for tonight. He's like, well,

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>we were a day late. I was tired, so we

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>slept in the car and we got in today. But

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>then he just goes, where's my son. Benson asks like,

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>why did Tim leave you here?

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 4>To the girl.

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>You know they're Orthodox Jew rules, they're split up by gender. Yeah,

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>She's like, he said he would be right back, and

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the baby was sleeping, and she pleads like please, he's

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:57.959
<v Speaker 2>lactose and tolerant. He needs soy formula, and she starts crying.

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>So the news is up in the squadroom and the

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>amberler is happening. There's a tip line and we know

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a nineteen ninety Honda accord. So Craigan's like, yes,

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>this is what the city needs a fucking tourist horror story.

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And there's no leads, stone cold, no witnesses, no video,

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>no hits from.

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 4>The toll booths. And then the mom is like, can

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 4>I smoke in here?

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>This is like no, I think smoking sections are illegal

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>at this point. You cannot smoke in the cop office.

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>So Tim is in the cement barroom with Amorrow and

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>he leaves them in there to walk out, and you know,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>fuck him up a little bit. The girl he is

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>in the woodblind's room and Craigan's office has a little

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>window view to both the rooms, which I don't always notice.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>But he doesn't like that it's been hours and still

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>no sign of the car or the baby. He's like,

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>let's pull everything on these people and I'm gonna go.

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Chat with Buffalo.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 2>They also can tell she's scared of him, so we

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>do hate Tim. So Craigan is basically like, listen, we

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>need to find who the last person to be seen,

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>like who saw this baby? Go go find out who

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking saw this baby last. So now we're bringing in witnesses.

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>The room is full. Tomorrow is mad though, because he's

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>on the phone and she ate too much Candy and

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>she's not going to bed, so he's pissed. He's like, fine,

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 2>have one more piece, but then you gotta go to bed.

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And then they do their I love yous and it's cute,

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and then he goes, that's my daughter. Everything's a negotiation,

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and then Benson goes, yeah, I wonder where she gets

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that from.

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Anyways, four hours, no clues.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>But also, Benson, you met him four episodes ago, Like

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? Suddenly you know that he's

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a negotiator. You barely know the guy. And they all

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>don't like Tim. We don't like Tim. His egos up

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Tim sees himself is protecting his woman Ali,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 2>but they don't really like him. So they go to

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>play mind games with them and figure stuff out. Craigan

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>has gossip from Buffalo and basically there was a domestic

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>incident call six months ago made by her sister, but

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Ali backed him up so no charges were filed, but

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>there is a report. So he's gonna send Rollins and

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Finn up to Buffalo to get more information, which, sure this.

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Is not it would have been a zoom.

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Benson and Tomorrow get to play my games of

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>their dreams because these people aren't that smart. So we're

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>also now at the Studded Monkey, which is a bar

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>on Avenue C and this guy, he's the Craigslist renter,

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>so he's the apartment that this Buffalo couple was gonna

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>rent from. And he's like, oh yeah, Tim was pissy

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>and annoyed, and Finn's like, well, he has a right

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.160
<v Speaker 2>to be. You gave away the apartment. He goes, no,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 2>they were a day late, so I rented it out

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to someone else. He only met the guy and doesn't

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>know about any baby. He only saw the man and

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>he wants to go party and he doesn't give a shit.

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>And then Finn gets a text at the bar and

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>they're going and the guy's shirt was open this whole time.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. It's like, we have to show that

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 2>he's gay. Unbutton his shirt. Yeah yeah, but anyway, so

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Finn gets a text to let him know that he's

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>going to Buffalo, so we knew that before they even

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>knew they were going.

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>He's not happy. He does not want to go to Buffalo.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>He does not like to work extra actually iced tea

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>today posted like fuck, I have my first day off.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do and that, like, you know,

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 2>if you're a real grinder and hustler, if that's your situation,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, just take a breath, ice, just play

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>some video games. It's okay, jump in your pool. You

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be earning cheerio money at every moment.

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be on tour with body count.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have to be working at raising canes,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>like in your free time, just fucking chill.

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Allie is pleading in the woodroom, like my husband is good.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't hit me, he loves me. And Amar was like,

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>just tell us the truth so we could find Nate.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>So she sits down and admits that he is a

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>jealous guy and he didn't think that the baby was his.

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened at the like domestic disturbance called

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>her sister made you know, she had a drink with

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>an X.

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 4>He got mad at her.

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>The sister overreacted and he only just shook her a

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>little bit. And she's like I know how to handle him.

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I know how to read his moods. And it's like okay,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>well this is a bummer way to live. And Amaro's like, okay,

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 2>can Nate control him, like, what about Nate? And she

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 2>says Tim would never and he tries to be all tough,

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 2>but in the delivery room he was bawling and Tim

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>is like, I never heard. That was a misunderstanding and

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>there were no charges, and Benson is like, okay, but

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>we just want your side, and he goes her bitch

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 2>sister hates me.

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I wonder why.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And I see the way they look at me, the

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>mom and sister, you know, because their dad left.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 4>They hate all men. And he's like, but I love

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Ali and she knows it.

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>And Benson's trying to go him into like admitting to something,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because she sees right through him and he doesn't even

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 2>know what's coming. You know. She's a genius. And he

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 2>gets up mad and says, I want to talk to Ali.

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you putting in her head? And she tells

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:35.919
<v Speaker 2>him to sit tight.

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>So now there's all this whole wait commotion. They might

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>have found the car under an abandoned bridge, so they're

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>off to the bridge. Siren's wo and Benson runs out

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of the car with a flashlight. She starts investigating the car.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 2>Windows are broken. Baby is not in there. They pop

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the trunk. The baby is not in there. Either good

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>or bad news, I'm not sure. So now they have

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 2>to start checking the woods, the embankment, divers in the river. Like,

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, this baby can be out here anywhere. So

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>they stand together like kind of taking in the moment

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of what like a giant search is ahead of them.

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>And so now we're at sixteen hours after the kidnapping,

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and we're all back in the office and it's a

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 2>busy squadron. I'm like, Benson and Tomorrow aren't going to

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>be doing the digging, you know what I mean, that's

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 2>a different team. That's a different team. Craigan, Benson and Tomorrow.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Basically no evidence of foul play in the car. There's

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>no blood, no prints, nothing except for Tim's. So that

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>means the car thief, wour gloves, or there are lies

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and we need to figure it out. So we have

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>to keep them talking. Okay, So then they enter the

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>room and Ali's like did you find him? Did you

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>find him? And they're like, well, we found the car,

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, wait, but that's good news. Wait, but

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 2>you didn't find Nay. Oh fuck, that's bad news. And

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 2>he's like, but Nate was in there right in the

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>car seat. She goes, yeah, I told you that, and

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 2>he goes, wow, that's a long journey for such a

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 2>little guy, Buffalo to New York. She's like, yeah, but

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 2>cars put him to sleep, so it was perfect. Marrow

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>asks when they decided to do the trip, and she says,

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>last week because Tim really wanted to see the hall

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Lean Parade. And he's like, well, what about you? Did

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to come? And she goes, yeah, of course.

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>But she was bummed because she had to take time

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 2>off of work. But she does work from home and

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>she does debt collection. You know what, I just learned

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that not paying debt collectors doesn't actually fuck with your

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>credit because they own the debt. It's not yours anymore.

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh really is that true or false?

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know?

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, message just if you know, I guess I can

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>ask my new business manager. Because I want to get

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>all my ducks and everything in a row. And I

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>paid off a lot of stuff, you know, because I

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 2>don't check my mail, so sometimes I missed shit and

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I paid a big lump sum.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 4>And then someone just told me that and I go,

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 4>what fuck?

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But like, doesn't your credit like your credit is

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>affected before it goes to collection, like if you're not paying, well.

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 2>It's medical no, because like I sometimes will not pay

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 2>medical stuff. And I got the people were calling me,

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 2>and I just paid it, just like because I thought

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I had to. But I guess what my friend was

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>saying is that the people take ownership of it, like

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 2>they pay for the debt, so they own it and

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>they just try to trick you by bothering you. But

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, it's not even yours anymore.

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 2>It's better that I paid it, but I am pissed

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>because I have a hotel to pay for in ten months.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Man. Also, can I just say no one's driving from

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo to New York to see the Halloween parade. Thank

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you for saying that. The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Yes,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.959
<v Speaker 1>the Thanksgiving Parade iconic. You people come from all over

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the Halloween Parade. It's just kind of like a clusterfuck

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>in the West Village. Yeah, like I avoided at all costs. Yeah,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a drunk fun night.

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not like, ye, the best costumes in the world

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 2>night in New York.

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 4>It's not that.

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like floats that like by huge companies, Like

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I'd say Gay Pride is a better parade than even Halloween.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't think Tim's going to the gay parade. We

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>know how Tim feels about gays.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's not happening.

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that should have been their biggest tip off that

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>this is lies. Is that, like we drove six hours

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.560
<v Speaker 2>for the Halloween parade. But we do find out that

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Tim has a job, which you know, I thought it

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 2>was a twist, but he does construction. So that's exciting.

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 2>But now we're talking to the sister. Okay, so Rollin's

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>and finner with the sister. Her name is Moira, and

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like that, but she goes, oh my god,

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I never know what's gonna you know, set him off.

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 2>My sister never knows. She's jumping out of her skin

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 2>half the time. Just anticipating is every move and emotion

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>sad way to live.

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 4>I bet that's what their dad was like, you know.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, from like TikTok therapists, I've learned, like if

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you're like a people pleaser, like you had to like

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>anticipate someone's emotions at all times as a kid, it's

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>like not healthy.

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Or something so, yeah, that makes sense.

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Nate's lucky no jaciugh whatever. But they actually don't

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 2>even live together, so that's something we learned from the sister.

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>He lives with his mother and she stays with the sister,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 2>but he's over there a lot. She's like, and he

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 2>eats my food like he pays for it. And she

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 2>says that he never hit the baby, like when Moira

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>was around. She's like, I never saw him hit the baby.

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>But she has to call the cops because he was

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>pounding forties and he twisted her sister's arm so bad

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>that it was purple for a week, and so they

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>asked to go look at Nate's bedroom. She's like, yeah,

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 2>for sure, But in my head, I'm also like, shouldn't

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 2>the sister be a little more upset and scared like

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>her nephew is missing. Yeah, Like I don't get She's

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 2>just being so matter of fact right now. And she

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>says the last time she saw Nate was Sunday before

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 2>they left, and they got a late start because their

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>car sucked and had issues and they had to fix

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 2>the car. So they left around four pm and she

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 2>saw them put Nate into the car and he had

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 2>his toy keys and he was holding onto his dinosaur

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and then that's when it finally hits her, and like

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>she starts acting like a person who you know whose

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 2>nephew is missing. But she's optimistic because she heard that

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in carjackings the babies are usually fine, and she might

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 2>have the same source as me, saying you don't have

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to pay your debt if it goes to the So

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 2>then it's a slow pan back to the cement room

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and Tim is yelling for them to find his son,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and Benson's like, yeah, no, we're doing everything we can.

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 2>But he doesn't understand why he can't leave the room,

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, because we need your help, like you

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:19.720
<v Speaker 2>need to help us, you need to think about stuff.

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 4>And she's like, I know this sucks.

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I know you're angry, and he goes, you know why

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't there.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't there to protect my boy.

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 2>And he grabs the bar windows and says, I screwed

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it up, and Benson goes, it's okay, and he goes, no,

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not. And you don't think so, and Ali doesn't either,

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and Omarrow's like, you think Ali's gonna blame you, and

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>he says she will find a way, and Benson does

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 2>not like that. And that's what's crazy about him. It's like,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 2>obviously this man hates women, it's like very clear. But

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 2>for him to be like, she's gonna blame me, She's

0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna find a way, she's twisted. And it's like her

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>whole existence like that we've even seen a peak of,

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>is only catering to this man and his emotions in

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>any one of his needs. She didn't want to call

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 2>off work. She's going a fucking buff She is the

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>only one who can calm him down. And it's like

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 2>yet in his brain, even though she does everything, she

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>is still a bitch that's gonna like turn on him.

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't she have turned on him immediately, you know

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 4>It's just like it's so wild, and Benson doesn't like that.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 4>He said that.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>So then someone enters the precinct and he is holding

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>a car seat and it's mister Hernandez and he bought

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it from a pedlar and brought it home and his

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 2>wife recognized it from the news. That is an eagle

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>eye wife, and she should be brought into the academy

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and brought into the brought into the squad because to

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.839
<v Speaker 2>notice the exact same car seat from the news as

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>your husband wildly brought home from a pedlar amazing, But

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 2>can we even confirm its nates? And the photos and

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>CSU will have to work and the Unis are on it.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna canvas, YadA YadA, We're gonna find the pedlar.

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.919
<v Speaker 2>So we find the pedler, what are the chances? And

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>we go to chat with him and he has a

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>permit and he's like, I'm not doing anything illegal.

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I have a permit. And they'll whole blanket with his wares.

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>It's all baby items, every single baby item, and they're like,

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we need suppliers. He goes, that's confidential, and they go,

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 2>that's not gonna work, bro, And so they take this

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>man in. He has white, long hair, a skull T shirt,

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam Vet vibes, and he's yelling about being arrested, and

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the Unis approach all the baby items and they're ready

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 2>to bag them and do them. And so now we're

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 2>back at the cement room and he's like, man, if

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw a baby, I would have ran because I

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>hate babies. So it wasn't like if I saw a

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>kidnap baby or a baby in distress. He's like, if

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I just saw a baby, I'd be out. That's not

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>for me.

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm out of there.

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>But he's not admitting to stealing the car. And Tomorrow

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, listen, we found your print, so what are

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 2>you doing? And he goes, but you're allowed to lie

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>to me, right And Tomorrow looks like he's been caught

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and I love it. So then finally he admits, like, yes,

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I did break the window. I took the stuff, but

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 2>there was no baby in there, and the car was locked, Like,

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>no one would leave a car like that unlocked with

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. I didn't just hop in and drive

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>away from it. I broke the window. I took the stuff.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>He goes, it was Halloween night, and then he's like, listen,

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna ask for a lawyer. So Craigan's in

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the spy room is like, damn, this dude lawyered up,

0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 2>and so they thought he was a kook, but no, no, no,

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 2>And Diane Neil's here, so that's exciting. Hey girl, we

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>love you. And she's like, so what the fuck now?

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:17.959
<v Speaker 2>So Benson knows something happened between Buffalo and New York City,

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>but she doesn't think either of them are hardcore criminals,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>so like they would have had a better story if

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 2>they were. And dian Neil's like, well, I don't give

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>a shit, like I have two confessions. And it's like yeah,

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>but that's not gonna work, like so much reasonable doubt,

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 2>like it's not gonna happen. So Dan goes, fine, then

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 2>keep them talking. There's not enough if not that, and

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>then Tomorro finds something. He goes, hold up, I found something,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and basically, uh oh, they found a cooler in the car,

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and in the cooler is fecal matter with traces of

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>soy formula. So they put the baby in the cooler.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Done done, which does remind me of the Taysacs episode

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>where of course the baby is found in the cooler.

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So obviously they had

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>a little commercial break. We're back from the cliffhanger. We

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 2>open up in the woodblind and she's sleeping on the

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 2>couch and Amorro closes the door so it wakes her up.

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 4>She asks what time it is.

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 2>He says eight pm, and he's like, so, what are

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you dreaming about? And also asked if she's all right,

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>So she goes, yeah, I was, you know, I'm all right,

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 2>and then they start talking about dreams and it's like,

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 2>move it along, honey, we don't like it in real life,

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and we definitely don't like it on television.

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Stop.

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 2>So then she says, you didn't find Nate. You would

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 2>have told me that first. So this sucks. So she goes,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 2>he's dead as any and Tomorrow responds like, that's what

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 2>you think, han. She goes, well, you would have found

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.439
<v Speaker 2>him by now, and he sits down and says, okay,

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 2>let's go back to Sunday, the day you left. But

0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 2>she's really hesitant to start talking, and he's trying, you know,

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.319
<v Speaker 2>he's easing her in. He's being really charming. He's like,

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 2>what if someone followed you? Like, what if something's happening

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>knew you were leaving. We need to think of every

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 2>small detail. So in the other room, they're showing Tim

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 2>pictures of the items and he admits, like, that's mine,

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that's mine, And then they show the cooler. The string

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>instruments begin to play and they're getting louder and he's like,

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 2>how do you know that's mine? And Ben's and of

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 2>course is like, motherfucker, your fingerprints are on it. And

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.919
<v Speaker 2>the lab found something else inside too, and she gives

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the poop toy evidence and she wants an explanation and

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't know, and he starts brainstorming. It's

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>not going well. His ideas aren't good. He's like, maybe

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.560
<v Speaker 2>she just changed his diaper and she's like, no, mother

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>would put a dirty diaper in a cooler. Bro like,

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? And Benson basically breaks it

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 2>down and goes, you have two choices. To him, there's

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 2>a good outcome we find out it was an accident

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and the baby fell and hit his head, or the

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.440
<v Speaker 2>bad outcome would be you lost your temper and you

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 2>shook Nate and he says no. She says, then tell

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>me what happened, and he screams, do not attack me,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and she looks at him like scum, and then he

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>starts to cry and then he does say I'm sorry,

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and she says that doesn't matter to me.

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.720
<v Speaker 4>How did Nate end up in the cooler?

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>He walks away and he like grabs onto the bars

0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and Benson walks out to the crew like fuck, he's

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 2>shut down now, Like he's out of it. He's not

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna help us, and Tomorrow is still and then it's like,

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 2>well where's tomorrow? And Tomorrow is still talking about Buffalo,

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.799
<v Speaker 2>So they are really taking their time. Nate woke her

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 2>up at five am, and Amar was like, wow, you're a.

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Really good mother.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>So that's like really nice of him, and she gives

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 2>him a bottle. She says it was really quiet, she

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 2>had some coffee. He says, you got to take better

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 2>care of yourself, like why aren't you eating you? You

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 2>know you worry about everyone else. You gotta worry about yourself.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.279
<v Speaker 2>And he gives her a little snack bar and he's

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 2>so charming. I forgot everything bad he's ever done. And

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>so then they leave around four pm. Like I truly

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 2>was so horned up, Like he really is so hot,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it's wild him giving her a snack bar. I was like, okay,

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>come over here, like I just really love him in

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 2>this moment.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 4>It's hot.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Why won't you do our podcast? So then they leave

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>around four pm Sunday. What if like we did, like

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 2>our brains did break and then we started stalking all

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the people we wanted on our podcasts who wouldn't say no.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 4>And then we became the criminals, and then two other.

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 2>People took over the podcast and like the whole podcast

0:46:57.239 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 2>about the crimes of us.

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>This is how our docuseries starts, Yeah, yeah.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 2>We're doing this, and then slowly we're yeah, we're doing

0:47:06.160 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>the kidnapping. So then we find out, you know, they

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 2>left her around four pm on Sunday, kind of like

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 2>what the sister said. But they didn't get to New

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>York City till Monday afternoon, So what's going on? She

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 2>pushes her hair behind her ear, that's a tell, and says,

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Tim was tired.

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 4>We slept in a rest stop.

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 2>He goes stop at alley and he's so hot because

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 2>now he spins and now he's like, like he's really mad,

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>and so he gets up and he's like, so far

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:30.399
<v Speaker 2>you've been telling the truth, but sleeping in the car

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 2>is a lie, and he yells.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 4>So he's just yelling.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 2>He's being aggressive, and finally Ali looks up at him

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and goes, okay, we have to sleep at a motel,

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and she says the Binghamton Motor Lodge. And Tim didn't

0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>want her sister to know that they were, like, you know,

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 2>in the motel. Craigan threw the grass is like, damn,

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>first lie and then calls Finn. So then Finn and

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Rollins can go to the motor lodge. So they're talking

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>to the bartender of the hotel and he's like, yep,

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>they checked in really late. They went straight to the

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>bar and they had wild turkey and COR's light and

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>he says no babies are allowed in the bar, like

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>when Finn is asking about the baby. And then finally

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Finn goes, bro, we don't care about the liquor license,

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>just tell the truth. We're looking for a missing baby.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if the baby was in here. So

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 2>they show the Nate photo and he goes, yeah, I

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>remember the baby. The baby was in a car seat

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 2>under the table the whole time, and the bartender hated

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 2>it and made him feel really sad. And then also

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 2>that they kept fighting and fighting the whole time about

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Halloween costumes because she bought a pumpkin and he said,

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 2>no kid of mine would wear that, and he threw

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 2>it in the trash.

0:48:32.200 --> 0:48:33.720
<v Speaker 4>So that's what they were fighting about.

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And as a parent, can you maybe walk me through

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 2>this anti pumpkin cost I really care that I might

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>not understand because I would love a little like I

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:44.200
<v Speaker 2>don't get I don't get it.

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't get it.

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like it was like a typically femme costume,

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like a princess or something. It wasn't like she was

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna be elsa, you know what I mean,

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:55.879
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's wild to have a free I think

0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's probably to show that this guy's like unhinged, right.

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because the pumpkin is just one of the classic costumes. Yeah,

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>and babies are always in pumpkins and looking cute. I

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 2>remember the ones I really loved as a kid when

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 2>the Party City catalogs would come, was like the baby's

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 2>dressed as a pea pod.

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, and I love like a little shy srawberry, Like

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a little baby dressed is a strawberry or a watermelon.

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 2>No, the best Halloween costume of all time was when

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>your daughter Rosie was Rosie the Riveter as a young baby.

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Like that was fucking cute. Yeah, she was seven months old,

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 1>so cute.

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:30.399
<v Speaker 4>And we're back.

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>So they fight about those pumpkin and they left with

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 2>the baby around four a m. So then Tomorrow gets

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 2>more serious with Ali and he really lets her have it,

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 2>and I truly have never been attracted to any anymore.

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 2>And then JK, the new Miley Cyrus video is one

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 2>of the best things that's ever been made.

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Agree or disab doctor, Yeah, I've only seen clips, but

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love that hair.

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>You have to see it all. You have to see

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 2>it all. You have to see the whole video. It's

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.000
<v Speaker 2>done really well. I obviously looked up the DP of

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 2>it the director, like I was looking up the production company.

0:49:58.719 --> 0:49:59.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just thought it was cool.

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:01.839
<v Speaker 2>And I guess this was a song that she made

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>with Pharrell for the Bankers album, and like, isn't releasing it,

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Like didn't release it for ten more years. I didn't

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 2>read the full article of like why or what not?

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 2>But it makes more sense now exciting. I also wonder

0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 2>if she re recorded or it's like the original stuff,

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 2>but her voice has changed, So a lot of curiosity.

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 2>But he's like, bitch, you said you went straight to

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>bed and you lied, And she says they had to

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>bring him in. Nobody was there to watch him. Tim

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 2>is talking shit about Ali in the other room, and

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, she lies a lot. She tells people what

0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 2>they want to hear. It's not on purpose. And then

0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 2>so Benson's like, okay, well you tell me about the motel.

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Then you know you were drinking, so whatever happened like

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't your fault, it was the alcohol. And Benson says,

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you left the house intending to hurt

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 2>your son or whatever happened, Like I know it wasn't intentional.

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 2>He starts to cry. He's like, I didn't do it,

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>but neither did Ali. But Benson's like, you guys were

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>arguing at the bar, like didn't Ali get upset? Maybe,

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and then it cuts back to Ali. Tim's explaining, well,

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>he was in a bad mood, so she thought that

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.200
<v Speaker 2>having some drinks would be fun and they could really

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:06.399
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're on vacation. And Amar's like, okay, get

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 2>on with it, like what happened, and he's pleading with

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 2>her like help him, like please help me, and she's like,

0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back and make it not happen.

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 2>She says, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. She puts her

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 2>head in her hands, and then it cuts to Tim's

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>room and he's like, you know, Ali is smarter than me,

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 2>she talks faster than me, and he just needs her

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 2>to shut up. And then Benson is buttering him up right,

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, oh, you work so hard and she

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.799
<v Speaker 2>doesn't give you any peace, and he goes, that's stupid costume.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 2>He goes, would you let your son go out looking

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like a pumpkin? It's just so not a big deal.

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>I like, can't. I really have never been so detached

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>outside of like not understanding you know, like murder and

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 2>all that.

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Like I can't.

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I've just never I never thought about something

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 2>like this, but whatever. So Nate was in the car

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:55.720
<v Speaker 2>seat and the car got stolen, like Allie said. And

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 2>then Benson goes, well, you said Ali was a liar,

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't matter if she's that. And then Amaro

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 2>comes out with some sad news for Novak and Kragan,

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and basically Ali agreed that she's gonna draw map of

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 2>where they buried the baby. So then they go to

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 2>a beach in the Bronx. And I don't know why

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:15.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone's like doing it at the like woods, why the

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 2>beach like water sand like, I don't know.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 4>I never get the beach.

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, or maybe they thought it would

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 2>be wash. I don't get buried at the beach.

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:24.720
<v Speaker 4>Tides.

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>There's not as many animals that would like get rid

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>of the body for you, Like, I don't know, it

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't really make sense to me.

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:34.399
<v Speaker 4>Well, also, what if one kid wants to build one hole? Yeah? Yeah,

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 4>they're good about to get a bad surprise.

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So yeah, everyone is sad. You know, they find

0:52:40.080 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the blanket, they find the toy. So finally it's time

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 2>for a Melinda Warner moment. I miss her. So basically

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.880
<v Speaker 2>she says, the baby's so cared for, very healthy, well nourished,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 2>well developed, no signs of abuse. He was loved, But

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 2>how did he die? Hello, Melinda get to work. She

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know yet, but she's like, there is no physical

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:00.919
<v Speaker 2>signs of trauma. Absolutely no. I'm gonna have to see

0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:03.200
<v Speaker 2>what the talk screen shows so I can figure out

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 2>how he died. But they're all working on it. So

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Benson and Tomorrow are having a tough time with this one.

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 2>He's like, whatever happened, like they did it together and

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>she's covering for him, and Benson goes, they're not going anywhere,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>so why don't you go home and hug your daughter,

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 2>But obviously he's not gonna do that. It's SVU. They

0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>have a work ethic like no other. So Amaro and

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Rollins are in there with Ali and they are done

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:24.840
<v Speaker 2>with this bitch. They're like, you tell us what happened,

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and Tim's like, I did not kill my son and

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Ali would never do it either, and they're like, but

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:32.320
<v Speaker 2>your son is dead, so tell us what happened. He's crying.

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know. He wants to talk to her. They

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 2>try to get Alli to pin it on Tim. She

0:53:36.560 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 2>won't like someone better fucking talk. He asks for a

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 2>lawyer and Finn tries to talk him out of it,

0:53:41.800 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 2>and Benson lets him do it, which is like, not

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 2>good for the case.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 4>You can't do that. Everything's gonna be thrown out.

0:53:49.000 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 2>He said that he asked Ali to marry him when

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 2>she was pregnant, and she's like, no, I don't want

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 2>to do it that way. I don't want you to

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>feel obligated, and he's like, I didn't feel that way

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 2>at all. Benson's like, yeah, you love her, that's why

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do the right thing.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 4>What happened?

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>So Tim starts explaining that Nate wouldn't stop crying and

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 2>he just wanted Nate to stop crying, and then like

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Tim is now crying, and he said that he picked

0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 2>up his son and shook him and Ali was screaming,

0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 2>but he just kept shaking the baby and then he

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 2>stops crying and that's that. And to me, I'm like,

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 2>why do you keep defending this man that just shook

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>your fucking baby, Like what are you doing? And so

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:27.359
<v Speaker 2>then she's crying and she says, I did it.

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 4>It was a me.

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Nate was crying, and you know, she's like, I just

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.479
<v Speaker 2>thought a bath would make him quiet down. She said

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 2>she put him in the tub, she dozed off, and

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>then when she woke up, Nate was underwater.

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 4>But both of these.

0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Would have had physical evidence, and Melinda said there wasn't any,

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.800
<v Speaker 2>So I really don't understand what's happening.

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 4>So we're out in the meeting.

0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>With the crew and it's like what the fuck and

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 2>like Benson goes, well, they're too dumb, so they're not

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 2>playing us, Like she just knows.

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.759
<v Speaker 4>That for a fact. She's like, they're too dumb to

0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 4>come up with this.

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on, Like are they protecting

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.680
<v Speaker 2>each other like one of these real Like I don't know,

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 2>and no vacs, Like I don't care, I have two confessions. Great,

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>so she goes the jury can decide, but Cragan's like, okay, yeah,

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:12.120
<v Speaker 2>but there's no cause of death. So that's not gonna help.

0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 2>We need to get the cause of death. So then

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 2>we go to Melinda again and she's like, they're fucking lying.

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:20.080
<v Speaker 2>There's no evidence, like, absolutely none. They are going to

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>examine the motel room and home and like so because

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 2>there's no evidence on the body, Like, Melinda's like, we

0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 2>need to check this space, right, like, you know, smoking

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>or something like in the motel or at their house.

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 2>If someone was smoking, the baby would have been in

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 2>higher risk of SIDS. And so that's what her gut

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 2>is saying that it was just SIDS Sudden infant death syndrome.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Right now, as a parent, is that something that was

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:51.040
<v Speaker 2>drilled into you in birthing class? Did hospitals tell like

0:55:51.400 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 2>what do parents know about SIDS? And was it a

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>feary you had constantly or not?

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>No, A lot of people I know do have it,

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of part of anxiety is wrapped up

0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in just the idea that there is this fucking unknown

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>syndrome that could just like kill a child. So that's

0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:13.919
<v Speaker 1>definitely really scary. There's been a lot of talk about

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>putting babies on their backs, like you really have to

0:56:16.440 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 1>put them on their backs, and that that's like cut.

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 4>Down the number of SIDS deaths Uh, But I don't.

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I think as far as I know, like SIDS is

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 1>still completely like unexplained and it can just like happen.

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I will say there are these like new technologies,

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there's this little sock called like the owlet or something,

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>or some kind of little sock that you put on

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a kid that like it can feel like it's pulse

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and oxygen levels and stuff so that it will alert you.

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 1>If it's supposed to be like an anti SIDS thing, Well,

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that seems like a bad idea because don't kids kick

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>off their socks?

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:52.320
<v Speaker 4>Isn't that like what they're known for. That was a

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.840
<v Speaker 4>whole plot point and monsters anc.

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they do when they're older, but I think when

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>they're like tiny ones, this little sock thing, it's not

0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>real sock. It's like it's it goes on their foot,

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.720
<v Speaker 1>but it has like belcrow Okay, okay, like it there's.

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 4>A way it stays on there.

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 1>But like just really quickly googling it It says that

0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>smoking during pregnancy, drugs and alcohol during pregnancy, being younger

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>than twenty, not breastfeeding, and that sleeping the baby on

0:57:16.360 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>their stomach, those are risk factors allegedly.

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh that probably, like yeah, the soy formula. I'm sure

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 2>that's why they stuff that in there. They're they're s

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and they showed her smoking a cigarette. Yeah, and she

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 2>is young. She is young because at one point the

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 2>detectives do go like she's a baby herself.

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Oh my god, oh my god, this is all

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 4>too much. Oh my god.

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Did you see you know how France abortion is now constitutional?

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 2>I saw one meme that was like, uh, when that

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 2>bitch you hate serves so good?

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Oh I really liked that.

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:58.920
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, but Melinda doesn't get No one understands, like

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 2>why would they confess to kill their son if it

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 2>sits and there's no evidence of anything that they just

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 2>said like no water in the lungs, no damage, no shaking,

0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:07.720
<v Speaker 2>no nothing.

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 4>And so then I guess they really do love each other.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And even though he's an abusive nightmare, like he was

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>willing to just go to jail, so there is like

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a really toxic I'm not promoting this relationship.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.480
<v Speaker 4>But they do and some level really care about each other.

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you know, but yeah, their baby died of natural clauses,

0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>and Omar I was like, no, I mean, they have

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to tell us what really happened because until then we

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>will never know. Like there's got to we still need

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.200
<v Speaker 2>to know what happened. It's driving him crazy. And he's

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 2>new to the precinct. He does have a daughter, so

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 2>he is just now learning about us view what happens here,

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and so to him, yeah, like he needs to fucking know.

0:58:45.040 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It's it's affecting him. And Tim says he doesn't know

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 2>what happened. He passed out. When he woke up. Ali

0:58:50.640 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 2>was holding Nate on the bed and then she says

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Nate was fussy and wouldn't settle, and she was scared

0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 2>he would make Tim mad and wake him up, Like

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>this is why it just hurts everyone, and so she

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 2>decided to put him on his back, but in their bed,

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and they were all sleeping together and she's like, I

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:06.280
<v Speaker 2>did everything you're supposed to do. There was no covers,

0:59:06.320 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 2>there was no pillows, there was nothing, and when she

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.040
<v Speaker 2>woke up, Nate wasn't breathing and Tim says she was

0:59:11.120 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 2>rocking him and singing to him, you are my sunshine,

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and so he asked her what was wrong, but she

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:16.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't answer him.

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 4>She just kept on singing. And she said that she was.

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Trying to get him to wake back up, and they

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to.

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Call for help because who would believe that. Mally says,

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:25.880
<v Speaker 4>so not what? Okay?

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 2>It was her idea to do all of this, to

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 2>put Nate in the cooler, to drive to a New

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 2>York city to bury him. And it's really hard for

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>her to get all this out, you know, I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>speed reading it, but it takes her a minute. And

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<v Speaker 2>she says, Tim left the car under the bridge. She

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<v Speaker 2>told the cops the baby was taken. She felt like

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<v Speaker 2>New York City, bad things happen all the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't matter. And then Almarro goes, it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>you did nothing wrong. It was sids and she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>what and he explains, sometimes babies they just die, and

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<v Speaker 2>she says, you know, like the three of them in

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<v Speaker 2>the bed together, it wasn't perfect, but it was so

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<v Speaker 2>good and she was so happy. And she's like, why

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<v Speaker 2>why us? And she asks with her hand over her mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tomorrow is getting really sad, and she says, when

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<v Speaker 2>you woke me up, before, I was dreaming Nate was dead.

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<v Speaker 2>So when she woke up, she thought it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a nightmare and that he was just like asleep and

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<v Speaker 2>everything was fine, and then she remembered and she asked

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to Tim, and finally they let them meet.

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<v Speaker 4>Tim walks into her room.

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<v Speaker 2>They hug and they cry, and so then Benson, Tomorrow, Finn,

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<v Speaker 2>Rollin's Craigan, they're all watching, you know, with a spy window,

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<v Speaker 2>and Craigan goes, now what, and Benson goes let them go,

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<v Speaker 2>and the rest of them there's a little chatter, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what they put the city through, and then Tomorrow goes,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, they're going to be paying for this forever,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, just send them home. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>is Craigan not in charge?

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that.

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<v Speaker 2>Benson is making these decisions while he's sitting right there.

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<v Speaker 2>But it ends on a close up of Benson and Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like quite sexy after like a really sad sad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad, yeah, And if we didn't poor people badly,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they could have called the cops right away, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, but then it is scarier. Baby is dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course you think it's your fault. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. This is like a fucked episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad no crimes are committed, but I guess playing

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<v Speaker 2>with the corpses, you can't like take a dead person

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<v Speaker 2>and do whatever they want with them. But they do

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<v Speaker 2>deserve to just leave, go back to Buffalo, and because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're breaking up now though, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he'll work on his anger issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I don't know, because he or he'll get worse,

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<v Speaker 1>or he'll hold it to her forever and go. I

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to go to jail for you. I lied

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<v Speaker 1>to the cops for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they make us seem like, oh wow, they

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<v Speaker 2>do love each other, it's true love. They're embracing, they're

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<v Speaker 2>crying together, and it's like she is on edge and

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<v Speaker 2>she like the reason she put him in the bed

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<v Speaker 2>even was because and SIDS could have happened in the crib,

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, but yeah, it was so he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>wake up, so so Tim wouldn't wake up, so Tim

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be in a bad mood. So it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his energy does affect everything.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, No, and that is like a form of abuse.

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, be like so on edge all the time that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone around you has to alter their behavior, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's how I kept my family on line.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think I got my way? Fear baby?

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<v Speaker 2>You scream a few times and everyone wants to keep

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<v Speaker 2>you at bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh my god, so funny. Okay, So this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is based pretty closely on the story of Joseph Bales

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<v Speaker 1>and Helen LeMay. Joseph age thirty three Helen age thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one at the time of this were from a small

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<v Speaker 1>village in Quebec. Neighbors said they were weird, like they

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<v Speaker 1>were Seventh day Adventists. I don't really know what that

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<v Speaker 1>religion is. They were strict vegetarians. The guy did odd jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>They avoided visitors, like a neighbor. There's like a neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>in all these interviews, being like I went to visit

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<v Speaker 1>them and they like wouldn't let me come inside. They

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<v Speaker 1>just made me talk to them on the porch, like

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't allow toys, and they planned to homeschool their children.

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<v Speaker 1>So Joseph was apparently an unemployed handyman. And Helene they

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<v Speaker 1>are a French Canadian. So I'm saying her name the

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<v Speaker 1>way I think you say it. Ellen, I guess was

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<v Speaker 1>said to have had several university degrees in psychology but

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<v Speaker 1>taught correspondence classes to earn money.

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<v Speaker 4>But they did not have money. They were struggling financially,

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<v Speaker 4>so in.

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<v Speaker 1>April of nineteen ninety four, they visited New York City

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<v Speaker 1>with their four year old daughter, Priscil and their ten

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<v Speaker 1>week old daughter, Mugay, and they checked into a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>on thirty first Street. Later, they called police and said

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<v Speaker 1>that Mugay had disappeared from a bench in Central Park

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<v Speaker 1>while her father had dozed off.

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<v Speaker 2>All this name is really making me laugh. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if I could continue with a straight face.

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<v Speaker 1>Mugay Magay. I looked it up. How to pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moogay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I'm sure it's mugay. But it is funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>every time you say it. Yeah, I'm not taking the

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<v Speaker 2>crime and the story seriously enough because I am giggling.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>So they said that the dad dozed off and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby disappeared, but they didn't call the cops for eighteen hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of tried to blame not speaking English

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<v Speaker 1>on why they didn't call the cops. But when they

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<v Speaker 1>finally got the cops on the line, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>full man hunt, Like they searched the lake with scuba divers,

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<v Speaker 1>they had huge numbers of police searching for her by air,

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<v Speaker 1>on foot, dogs, like the whole thing. But the police

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<v Speaker 1>were suspicious. They were like, why'd you wait eighteen hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's kind of like with this episode. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like there was a lot of what happened, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we got there and the room wasn't ready or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So after they were questioned for a while at my

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<v Speaker 1>old precinct on the Upper West Side, the twentieth precinct

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<v Speaker 1>on West eighty second, the couple's story unraveled very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So in reality, much like in the episode, Mugay had

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<v Speaker 1>never traveled with them from Quebec. They had found her

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<v Speaker 1>dead in her crib, and another fact came to light

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<v Speaker 1>as well in the questioning was that they had been

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<v Speaker 1>accused of abusing a foster child they'd taken in the

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<v Speaker 1>year before, who was described in the stories I read

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, severely disabled, but the child had presented

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<v Speaker 1>bruising and seemed melnourished or something, and so that child

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<v Speaker 1>had been removed from the home. So when they found Mugay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, unresponsive in the crib, they panicked that they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be charged because now they have this sort of blight

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<v Speaker 1>on their record of this foster child. So they decided

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<v Speaker 1>to drive four hundred miles to New York City and

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<v Speaker 1>set up this ruse because they thought that maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>entire thing would just fold into the chaos and crime

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<v Speaker 1>of New York City. And it's nineteen ninety four, so

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<v Speaker 1>New York is being cleaned up, I'd say at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it's the eighties, and this is so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a doll with them the entire time that

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<v Speaker 1>they had wrapped up to convince the four year old.

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<v Speaker 1>They sister was with them, so that the four year

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<v Speaker 1>old wouldn't be like, where's Mugay. So the couple primarily

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<v Speaker 1>spoke French and like I said, tried to use the

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<v Speaker 1>language barrier to sort of obfuscate and uphold this hopes

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. But then at one point I read

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<v Speaker 1>one of the cops asked, does anyone want ice cream?

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<v Speaker 1>And little Priscill goes, yes, I want ice cream in English.

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<v Speaker 1>So they spoke well enough and the girl fucking blew

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<v Speaker 1>their cover.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny because like it's such a classic thing

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<v Speaker 2>now with the Internet, I know other people have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, my dad would make me lie about my

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<v Speaker 2>age to get free shit, and I would always be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually five, Like yeah, and he'd be like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your dad. Let me lie. Who cares what the stranger

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<v Speaker 2>is doing? Like have my bat That's so funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, who gives a fuck about this person? If

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<v Speaker 2>I'm lying, just like trust me, back me up. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, yeah, so that was fun. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do remember like fucking up.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what else?

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<v Speaker 2>Say, hey, did your parents do this when you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>waiting in the grocery storeline and then they would run

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<v Speaker 2>to grab something and then you didn't just have to

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<v Speaker 2>be there in the panic that ensued. That's another experience

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<v Speaker 2>that I attributed it to, just like my dad being

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<v Speaker 2>like foreign and annoying, and then you know, with the

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<v Speaker 2>Internet and knowing people, you realize that's a common anxiety.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I remember that that is scary.

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<v Speaker 1>But literally this was just a conversation in the mom

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<v Speaker 1>group that I'm in because somebody was like, how easy

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<v Speaker 1>is it to get your just turned four year old

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<v Speaker 1>in and get them to like bly and say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're three so that they can get into Disney for free,

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<v Speaker 1>And all these people were like, I don't know, watch

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<v Speaker 1>out because if they ask the kid, the kid will say.

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<v Speaker 4>They're real age.

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<v Speaker 1>But then people were saying, it's actually a Disney rule

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not allowed to ask the kid. So people

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<v Speaker 1>were like, put the baby in the stroller, cover his

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<v Speaker 1>body with a like cover lower half of a blanket

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<v Speaker 1>so they can't tell how tall they are, and then

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<v Speaker 1>just cruise on through and you can kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>sneak your kids in when they're close to free age.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like that Disney has a policy don't ask

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<v Speaker 2>the kid, because it's like, it makes me feel Disney

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<v Speaker 2>execs have a little bit of a heart where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>if someone's trying to sneak in a kid, let them

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you know, the rule too that I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>from the internet is the characters they can never let

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<v Speaker 2>go of a hug. First, Oh, the kid has to

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<v Speaker 2>let go first, that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 4>It is cute.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I always I watched the ones where like

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<v Speaker 2>the kids really need the hug and like stand for a.

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<v Speaker 4>While and buy, oh, oh my gosh, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be me very soon. I want to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just watched one this morning. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>little kid dressed like a penguin and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Poppins and Dick Van.

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<v Speaker 4>Dyke Is that his name, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Van Dyke, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe this little kid watched Mary Poppins. But okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever your parents show you. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know Mary Poppins was like out Poppin' at Disneyland,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I just didn't know me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>But I watched that one, and I've just watched and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not supposed to let go. So besides the money

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<v Speaker 2>gouging and all the you know, all of the bad stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Nazi things whatever, there is a magic

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<v Speaker 2>for children underneath.

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<v Speaker 4>There is the magic of the hug.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a care and at chill, like that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a way to be like, don't ask the kids if

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to lie and let them lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Like well, also like Oscar talks very well and I

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<v Speaker 1>ask him how old are you?

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<v Speaker 4>And he goes good, like he messes with me.

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<v Speaker 1>He won't say how old he is, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>people ask him, he'll go two and then I'll go three,

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<v Speaker 1>like he'll just change it. So it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't trust these scal though at three almost four,

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. But anyway, eventually this couple admitted to everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also admitted that Moogay had died over a

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<v Speaker 1>week earlier. Like Initially the story was we found her

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<v Speaker 1>dead and then we drove the next day to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they found out that she died almost ten

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<v Speaker 1>days earlier, and so much like in the episode, they

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<v Speaker 1>used a map drawn by Joseph and Helen, and the

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<v Speaker 1>authorities found ten week old Mugay bales LeMay near Eastman,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty miles north of the Vermont border, in a snowdrift

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<v Speaker 1>by the side of the highway. Horrible and she had

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<v Speaker 1>been in the woods for a week, but her body

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<v Speaker 1>had been preserved by the cold, and the autopsy performed

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<v Speaker 1>in Montreal seemed to uphold their story that there was

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<v Speaker 1>no kind of neglect or injury to the child, and

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<v Speaker 1>New York planned on dropping the charge of filing a

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<v Speaker 1>false report. The couple could have been charged with illegally

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<v Speaker 1>disposing a body, which is punishable by up to five

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison in Canada, or face other charges after

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy. But as far as what I was reading,

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy showed that the child had been well taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. And they also did during all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>lose custody of Priscill, who was sent back to Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and was with social services while they were awaiting autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>and charges and everything. But then this is so wild,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I cannot find a single article about this after

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<v Speaker 1>April of nineteen ninety four, Like after this happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And the judge sealed it or something or what, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't even do a lock up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because it's Canada too, right. I was googling the

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<v Speaker 1>parents separately. I googled Priscill, I googled the baby's name alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I was googling. I went to google dot Ca to

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<v Speaker 1>see if maybe Canada had different search results, Like I could.

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<v Speaker 4>Not find a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming they didn't get charged, and so the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing kind of just disappeared and like they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to cover it if there's no charge in Canada, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in the US they're like, well, we gave them

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<v Speaker 1>back to Canada, so what are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have no idea. I'm assuming they probably got

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<v Speaker 1>purcealed back as well, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything after a bunch of articles that

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<v Speaker 1>I have in my sources about like hoax, a couple,

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<v Speaker 1>baby is found, you know whatever, but then nothing damn

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<v Speaker 1>so kind of nuts. So if you know anything else

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<v Speaker 1>about this case, because I know we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Canadians, but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Really did try so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I was googling what are popular search engines in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like Google is the most popular.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was like, maybe there's some other. I was

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<v Speaker 4>trying to put it in French.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like putting things in French to see Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm assuming that they just sent

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<v Speaker 1>them back and said, you know, autopsy proofs that your

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<v Speaker 1>story is correct, and they didn't want to hurt these

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<v Speaker 1>people more by charging them with illegal like body but

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's a similar story in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that if they wish they could have just gone to

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<v Speaker 1>the authorities and not been scared that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to get charged. But I don't really know what It

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<v Speaker 1>was hard to even find what they were accused of with.

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<v Speaker 4>The foster child.

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<v Speaker 1>It just said a foster child had been removed from

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<v Speaker 1>their care, but they didn't get any legal There was

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<v Speaker 1>no legal charges or anything brought up. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it probably made them gunshy about the system.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>A short little crime, but it seems pretty closely based

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<v Speaker 1>even though it happened. Oh my gosh, how many years

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<v Speaker 1>before this episode came out, like seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't have a guest for today's episode, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's just dive right into that post mortem. Baby, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no guests, so let's just dive straight into the post mortem.

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<v Speaker 4>Good episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, you're not going to be smarter than Olivia Benson, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you're doing. I know Amarro's new

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<v Speaker 2>to the task force, but you're not getting past them.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what's funny. We're always like cops are stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>but then it's also like you might not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get away with the crime either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we also are also like don't talk to cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops are like, cops aren't good. And then these people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tried to like create their own alternative instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just calling the cops and saying, hey, our kid

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<v Speaker 1>didn't wake up, like and because they thought that they

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<v Speaker 1>in both situations, in the real situation and the episode situation,

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<v Speaker 1>they were worried they wouldn't be believed.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week I was talking about how Philly has all

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<v Speaker 2>these fucked up crimes. There was the Philly first like

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<v Speaker 2>female serial killer killed eight of her kids were dead.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny question he was like, when do you think

1:13:38.400 --> 1:13:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you'd become suspicious? I'm like, third kid dead, I'd be like,

1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:43.479
<v Speaker 2>this is not something's going on, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how eight kids were full and she

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<v Speaker 2>never served time for it or anything. I mean unless

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<v Speaker 2>it was back like hundreds of years ago when it

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<v Speaker 2>was like tuberculosis was like killing every kid.

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<v Speaker 4>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this episode, I mean, it's a real twist attorney

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<v Speaker 1>one because you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, oh what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like, but the guy also seems bad, like no, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety eight, Oh my god, what Oh no, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when she finally confessed my serious deaths of her babies

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen fifties and sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>Still that's too recent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the mom oh my god, the fucking article

1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:22.519
<v Speaker 2>is cradle to grave. Okay, oh my god, I'm telling

1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:26.320
<v Speaker 2>you Philly. Yeah, No, we can't. We can't mix with

1:14:26.360 --> 1:14:28.439
<v Speaker 2>this Philly shit right now. No, but we'll probably cover

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<v Speaker 2>it next week.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought this episode, like, I felt that I

1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:34.960
<v Speaker 1>felt sad for Lisa Joyce's character because she had this

1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like off the Rail's sort of unhinged boyfriend who only

1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:42.360
<v Speaker 1>she can calm down, and then they have this baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and like obviously a huge tragedy comes to her and

1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:48.360
<v Speaker 1>she feels like it feels like we're just watching somebody

1:14:48.360 --> 1:14:51.439
<v Speaker 1>in the throes of PTSD. Like the entire episode, because she,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think, loved her kid and was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is just literally like sleepwalking. It felt like like she

1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:02.200
<v Speaker 1>was in a dream where she thought it was happening

1:15:02.200 --> 1:15:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and then she woke up and realized it was really,

1:15:03.880 --> 1:15:07.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, so it was you know, good performance.

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<v Speaker 4>Wish she would have come on the BA. This is

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<v Speaker 4>just something funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend from my past that's like very

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<v Speaker 2>very beautiful. I don't know how it came up, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was like talking to my friend, I'm like, you

1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:20.880
<v Speaker 2>need to see her husband. He is like not hot

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<v Speaker 2>at all, Like it's just wild. And then when I

1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:25.920
<v Speaker 2>went to her page, husband wiped. There is not one

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<v Speaker 2>photo of the husband. I'm like, oh, they are clearly

1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:30.920
<v Speaker 2>getting divorced. And it's like, that's how it happens. And

1:15:30.960 --> 1:15:33.960
<v Speaker 2>then our friend Jared Freed posted this story and it

1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:35.760
<v Speaker 2>was so funny to me, and it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>social media phases of when you get dumped and it

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<v Speaker 2>is wiping, but then it's like social media break. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't see them for weeks, and then all of a

1:15:42.880 --> 1:15:45.679
<v Speaker 2>sudden they come back and it's like a little quote

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<v Speaker 2>about getting back up and knowing yourself, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jim selfies suddenly, and then it's a trip

1:15:53.080 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's like and then he posted this and I

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<v Speaker 2>took a screenshot of it and he goes, why I

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<v Speaker 2>go cause it made me laugh, and then he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>he was saying, then the final stage is when they

1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.800
<v Speaker 2>post a cover of the Taylor's Swift album where she

1:16:05.880 --> 1:16:10.679
<v Speaker 2>has a French braid. I just like loved it so much,

1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:13.360
<v Speaker 2>but I was like, I just like the use of

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<v Speaker 2>French braid and the cover which is ever more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wow, I got it. I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was so funny. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>like social media. I don't know if people are trying

1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:25.320
<v Speaker 2>to be cheeky or not, but that's how I always

1:16:25.360 --> 1:16:27.960
<v Speaker 2>find out. Like even this guy, one of his exes,

1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I messaged him, I'm like, hey, is everything going okay?

1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:32.559
<v Speaker 2>He goes, we actually broke up, like you know, we

1:16:32.640 --> 1:16:34.400
<v Speaker 2>needed to talk about it. Well, it's like, yeah, I

1:16:34.439 --> 1:16:36.960
<v Speaker 2>knew it. She was posting fucking jim selfies. I knew exactly.

1:16:36.960 --> 1:16:39.320
<v Speaker 2>You guys broke up. You don't have to say anything

1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:39.559
<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes if I'm like, I haven't seen them post with

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<v Speaker 1>each other in a while, and you just like go

1:16:43.280 --> 1:16:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and look and like it's all the stuff's gone. Because

1:16:45.800 --> 1:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you were about to say how so and so, but

1:16:47.920 --> 1:16:51.360
<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, I'm not going to because it's it's

1:16:51.400 --> 1:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they're gone.

1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:52.879
<v Speaker 4>They're they vanished.

1:16:53.000 --> 1:16:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're taking lovely because we have another friend

1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and I got a text going check out the Instagram

1:16:58.320 --> 1:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>they broke up and it's me ediately as she just

1:17:00.840 --> 1:17:04.120
<v Speaker 2>ran the half marathon, she took a trip to Iceland.

1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:06.360
<v Speaker 4>It's like, honey is nursing a breakup? You know what

1:17:06.400 --> 1:17:06.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I don't know. I was gonna say,

1:17:10.479 --> 1:17:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why you gotta be careful what you post. But

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<v Speaker 2>please don't. I want to see it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, feel free start doing some blatant like

1:17:17.000 --> 1:17:21.360
<v Speaker 1>just scorched earth removals of your exes so we can know.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, what would sister Peg? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>This is our WWSPD Weekly Second, No more WWOBD, it's

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