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Speaker 1: Hope to see you there. Please note this episode contains
Speaker 1: disturbing scenes of attempted murder. Parental discretion is advised. In
Speaker 1: the winter of nineteen ninety four, in eastern Indiana, a
Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy plays in a patch of woodland
Speaker 1: that runs alongside his family's farm. About fifty yards from
Speaker 1: their porch, he spots something strange protruding from the ground.
Speaker 1: It's some kind of bone. As he draws near, it
Speaker 1: becomes increasingly clear that what he is looking at is
Speaker 1: in fact, part of an entire human skeleton, loosely covered
Speaker 1: over with red dirt. In horror, he calls for his
Speaker 1: mother to come and see it. Together. The boy Eric
Speaker 1: and his mother Julie, look down at the grim specimen
Speaker 1: and wonder how on earth that came to rest on
Speaker 1: their land. The Baumeisters had lived on the property for
Speaker 1: seven years and have been no mention of a graveyard
Speaker 1: or any hint of anything untoward. Before the skeleton appeared
Speaker 1: to be complete. Only the skull was attached. To Julie,
Speaker 1: it looked like, whoever the persons, they just laid down
Speaker 1: there and died. Julie told Eric to go back inside
Speaker 1: and resolved to speak to her husband later about what
Speaker 1: to do with it. Thankfully, it was all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: When Eric's father, Herb, returns to the farm that evening,
Speaker 1: he's able to explain everything. It isn't a real skeleton,
Speaker 1: he says, but an anatomical model that once belonged to
Speaker 1: his father, a professional anesthesiologist. When his old man died.
Speaker 1: He tells them that skeleton passed down to him, but
Speaker 1: he'd always thought it was creepy, so he decided to
Speaker 1: bury it. The weather and wild animals must have unearthed it. Herb, says,
Speaker 1: a reassured Eric believes his father, and so does Julie.
Speaker 1: For now, anyway, you're listening to Unexplained, and I'm Richard
Speaker 1: mc lean smith. On a balmy summer evening in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four in central Indianapolis, Mark Goodyear made his way
Speaker 1: through a hot, dimly lit bar as music throbbed all around.
Speaker 1: The five oh one Club was a gay bar popular
Speaker 1: among bears and leather men, but the man staring intently
Speaker 1: at the poster on the wall was neither of those.
Speaker 1: The poster showed a picture of Mark's friend Roger allan
Speaker 1: goodlot who had not been seen by any one since July.
Speaker 1: Do you know him? Said Mark, leaning in to be
Speaker 1: heard over the noise. The man turned. He had soft,
Speaker 1: puppy doggish eyes and seemed older but oddly youthful, like
Speaker 1: he'd never quite lost the child in his face. He
Speaker 1: was kind of cute, thought Mark, No, said the man.
Speaker 1: There was a brief, awkward silence before the stranger finally
Speaker 1: introduced himself off. His name was Brian, Brian smart, he said.
Speaker 1: Mark couldn't help but smile at how formal he was,
Speaker 1: but he hadn't seen him there before and was intrigued.
Speaker 1: Brian offered to buy Mark a drink, and before long
Speaker 1: the pair had fallen into easy conversation. As closing time approached,
Speaker 1: the older man asked Mark if he'd liked to go
Speaker 1: on somewhere else. As it turned out, Brian's boss was away,
Speaker 1: but he had a key to his home. They could
Speaker 1: sneak in and use the pool if he liked. Mark
Speaker 1: wasn't in the habit of going off with Brandon strangers,
Speaker 1: but it did seem like a fun idea. There was
Speaker 1: just one thing, though. It was just a rumor, really,
Speaker 1: but some people in the community had begun to wonder
Speaker 1: if they were being targeted by a serial killer, since
Speaker 1: a number of gay men seemed to have gone missing
Speaker 1: from the area in the past few years, including Mark's
Speaker 1: friend Roger. Mark looked Brian and his sparkly puppy dog eyes.
Speaker 1: What the hell. He thought. The pair was soon heading
Speaker 1: north out of the city in Brian's car and into
Speaker 1: the suburbs of Hamilton County, but as the roads got
Speaker 1: narrower and darker, Mark began to get nervous, until eventually
Speaker 1: Brian turned onto an unpaved rural road. Mark glimpsed a
Speaker 1: sign bearing the word farm, but before he could read
Speaker 1: it all, Brian turned again into a long driveway which
Speaker 1: led up to the house. Getting out of the car,
Speaker 1: Mark was relieved to see it was every inch as
Speaker 1: impressive as Brian had made it seem. It was practically
Speaker 1: a mansion and entirely dark in side. Brian, perhaps sensing
Speaker 1: Mark's nerves, gave him a smile and nodded for him
Speaker 1: to follow. Brian led Mark toward the garage, explaining that
Speaker 1: the power to most of the house was off, but
Speaker 1: the basement where the pool was would be well lit.
Speaker 1: Mark felt another pang of anxiety as he followed Brian
Speaker 1: through the darkness into the bowels of the mansion, where,
Speaker 1: to his immense relief, Brian finally flicked on the lights
Speaker 1: to reveal a swimming pool. Mark's anxiety turned to excitement
Speaker 1: as he stripped off and jumped into the pool. When
Speaker 1: he came up, a dense cloud of fog hung around
Speaker 1: him above the heated water. The men falled about for
Speaker 1: a bit, then Brian suddenly turned to Mark and said, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to see a trick? Sure, said Mark,
Speaker 1: a little confused, as Brian reached for a length of
Speaker 1: pool hose floating near by. Brian drifted closer to Mark,
Speaker 1: then told him to turn around. Mark laughed nervously as
Speaker 1: Brian draped the rubber hose around his own. Brian asked
Speaker 1: Mark if he'd ever tried auto asphyxiation, how cutting off
Speaker 1: blood supply to the brain could intensify an orgasm. Then,
Speaker 1: slowly it began to tighten the hose around Mark's neck.
Speaker 1: Feeling more uncomfortable than aroused, Mark went with it at first,
Speaker 1: but Brian kept squeezing tighter and tighter until Mark began
Speaker 1: struggling to breathe. He grabbed at the hose and fought
Speaker 1: to tell Brian to stop, but he couldn't get the
Speaker 1: words out. He flailed frantically in the water, desperate to
Speaker 1: get free, but Brian held firm. Finally, in a moment
Speaker 1: of terror struck lucidity, Mark allowed his body to fall
Speaker 1: limp and pretended to pass out. Then Brian released him.
Speaker 1: Mark's mind was racing. Convinced he was in the company
Speaker 1: of a very dangerous man and miles away from safety,
Speaker 1: he determined that the best way to get through to
Speaker 1: dawn was just to play along, So when he feigned
Speaker 1: coming back to consciousness, he just smiled as if nothing
Speaker 1: had happened. For the next few hours, he pretended to
Speaker 1: drink and return Brian's flirtations, until at last the older
Speaker 1: man passed out on a couch. In the morning, Brian
Speaker 1: drove Mark back to his car in the city. Once
Speaker 1: free from Brian, Mark went straight to the police to
Speaker 1: report his assault and to tell them that the man
Speaker 1: responsible might have something to do with all the men
Speaker 1: who'd gone missing recently, but the police seemed to have
Speaker 1: little interest in getting involved. It didn't help that Mark
Speaker 1: couldn't give accurate directions to the house or any important details.
Speaker 1: In the end, they simply told Mark to keep an
Speaker 1: eye out for the man and noticed Eisen's plate number
Speaker 1: if he got the chance. It was a long shot,
Speaker 1: but almost a full year later, in August nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: the man calling himself Brian Smart came back to the
Speaker 1: five oh one club, and Mark was there to note
Speaker 1: his license plate. The police traced the car to one
Speaker 1: Herbert Richard Baumeister, or Herb to his friends, the owner
Speaker 1: of a patch of land in nearby Westfield, where he
Speaker 1: lived with his wife Julie and son Eric. It was
Speaker 1: called Fox Hollow Farm. When the police first tried to
Speaker 1: search the farm without a warrant, Herb and Julie denied
Speaker 1: the entry, but by then Julie was becoming increasingly frightened
Speaker 1: of Herb's behavior, and in nineteen ninety six she filed
Speaker 1: for divorce. Though the image of that supposed model skeleton
Speaker 1: that Eric had found in the woods back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four had never quite left her, it was only
Speaker 1: then that she felt brave enough to do something about it.
Speaker 1: While Herb was away, she called the police and gave
Speaker 1: them permission to search the property. Over several days, the
Speaker 1: authorities unearthed over five thousand separate bone fragments from the grounds,
Speaker 1: including complete skeletons of eleven men. Eight of them were
Speaker 1: identified as men reported missing and last seen in bars
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. It turned out that Herb had been bringing
Speaker 1: men back to his house for years, whenever Julie and
Speaker 1: Eric were elsewhere visiting family, he strangled them all to
Speaker 1: death in the poll room. When the news got out,
Speaker 1: herb fled across the border to Ontario. In a park
Speaker 1: on the shore of Lake Heron, he put a bullet
Speaker 1: through his brain. He left a note that he felt
Speaker 1: terrible about his failed marriage, that he was sorry for
Speaker 1: making a disturbance in the park, and that he had
Speaker 1: intended to take his own life elsewhere, but didn't want
Speaker 1: to upset a gang of children playing nearby. Over the
Speaker 1: next decade, Fox Hollow Farm languished empty and abandoned under
Speaker 1: the ownership of an anonymous developer. In two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: it was listed on the market for two point eight
Speaker 1: million dollars, just over five million by today's money. By
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, it had been dropped to one million,
Speaker 1: but no matter how low the asking price fell, no
Speaker 1: one in the local community was willing to make a
Speaker 1: home amid such hideous history. Vicki and Rob Graves were
Speaker 1: a married couple on the cusp of middle age, looking
Speaker 1: for a country base to raise their two teenage sons.
Speaker 1: While searching for prospects close to the site, of Rob's
Speaker 1: new car dealership. They came across a listing for Fox
Speaker 1: Hollow Farm and couldn't believe that it hadn't already been
Speaker 1: snapped up. They cooed over its eleven thousand square feet
Speaker 1: of rooms, along with its several outbuildings. Built from solid
Speaker 1: stone and finished in an ornate mock Tudor style. The
Speaker 1: manicured lawns were dotted with sculpted hedges and flowed into
Speaker 1: the surrounding eighteen acres of prime horse pasture. But as
Speaker 1: Vicki and Rob toured the property with the realtor, they
Speaker 1: shared a knowing look. What's the catch? Vicki asked. Rob
Speaker 1: was about to ask the same question when something came
Speaker 1: to him, a fragment of memory, a story he'd seen
Speaker 1: on the news about a farm outside the city and
Speaker 1: the bones of missing men. This is that killer's house,
Speaker 1: isn't it? He said, with nowhere to hide. The realtor
Speaker 1: confirmed Rob's suspicions. For some, the farm's history might have
Speaker 1: been a red line, but for the Graves, both skeptical
Speaker 1: practical people, the debate was more economic than spiritual. Vicky
Speaker 1: and Rob discussed it over the following days before finally
Speaker 1: making an offer. It was eagerly accepted, and the Graves
Speaker 1: soon moved in. Compared to the frenzy of city life,
Speaker 1: Fox Hollow Farm was idyllic at first. The kids loved
Speaker 1: the expansive grounds and the heated indoor pool, which they'd
Speaker 1: often come into straight from playing outside, much to Vickie's annoyance.
Speaker 1: One morning, just a few weeks after moving in, Vickie
Speaker 1: was once more hoovering dirt from the pool site when
Speaker 1: her vacuum cleaner cut out. Tracing the line of the
Speaker 1: power cable to the wall, she saw that the plug
Speaker 1: had come out of the socket. She pushed it back
Speaker 1: in and returned to the task, ensuring there was plenty
Speaker 1: of slack this time for her to work with. But
Speaker 1: seconds later the vacuum cut out again. Vicki stared at
Speaker 1: the plug that was once again lying several inches from
Speaker 1: the wall, though the cable had never tightened and she
Speaker 1: had not moved anywhere near far enough for it to
Speaker 1: fall out. Confused, Vicki once more reinserted the plug and
Speaker 1: returned to the hoover. As it was told later, when
Speaker 1: she switched it on again, she kept her gaze fixed
Speaker 1: on the socket, and watched aghast as the plug flew
Speaker 1: out of it and skidded across the tiles, having seemingly
Speaker 1: been wrenched out by an invisible force. Vicki almost didn't
Speaker 1: believe it herself, as she explained it all to a
Speaker 1: skeptical Rob later that day. Realizing how silly it sounded,
Speaker 1: Vickie tried to forget about it, unsure what it was
Speaker 1: she'd seen exactly. A few days later, Vicki and Rob
Speaker 1: as said to have been in the garden making a
Speaker 1: list of all the work that needed to be done
Speaker 1: to the house's exterior. Rob was at the top of
Speaker 1: a ladder inspecting the gutters when Vicki suddenly sensed something
Speaker 1: moving fast toward the tree line, as it was claimed later,
Speaker 1: she looked over to see a young man dressed in
Speaker 1: a striking red shirt. Vicky called out to him, but
Speaker 1: the man didn't flinch, just kept moving in a straight
Speaker 1: line toward the woods. She was about to call out
Speaker 1: again in irritation when she felt a sudden rush of adrenaline.
Speaker 1: The man's legs were missing from the thighs down, just
Speaker 1: a few inches below the untucked hem of his shirt.
Speaker 1: There was nothing having quickly told Rob what she'd seen.
Speaker 1: He shot down the ladder and raced over to the
Speaker 1: tree line where Vicki said the man had gone. He
Speaker 1: searched the property all the way to the garden fence,
Speaker 1: but saw no one. Just then it occurred to Vicki
Speaker 1: that whoever she'd seen had been walking toward her Baumeister's
Speaker 1: burial sight. Ron wondered if it might have been one
Speaker 1: of those serial killer obsessives that their friends had warned
Speaker 1: them about Macarborough tourists who treated murder scenes as sights
Speaker 1: of pilgrimage. Either that or Vicki had just seen a ghost,
Speaker 1: he joked with a smile, but Vicki didn't smile back,
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be the last time that the man
Speaker 1: in the red shirt was apparently seen on the property.
Speaker 1: Beyond the farm renovations, life was going well for the Graves,
Speaker 1: The kids couldn't have been happier, and Rob's dealership was thriving.
Speaker 1: The only problem he was having was the tardiness of
Speaker 1: one of his favorite employees, Joe LeBlanc. After one too
Speaker 1: many late showings, Rob discovered that Joe lived an hour
Speaker 1: from the dealership and had been struggling to get in
Speaker 1: on time. As he told his boss, he was trying
Speaker 1: to rent somewhere closer to work, but was struggling to
Speaker 1: find anything suitable. Fox Hollow Farm had a self content
Speaker 1: apartment above the garage on the far side of the property,
Speaker 1: with its own kitchen and on sweet bathroom. It was
Speaker 1: more than big enough for Joe and his dog, Fred,
Speaker 1: so Rob offered it to him. The only problem was
Speaker 1: the property's history, which Rob didn't want to hide from him. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: Joe wasn't put off. If anything, as far as he
Speaker 1: was concerned, it made the place even more interesting. A
Speaker 1: few nights later, Joe was tossing and turning in his
Speaker 1: new apartment. Deep in his unconscious mind, Joe was running
Speaker 1: for his life through thick woodland. He had no idea
Speaker 1: what was chasing him, only that whatever it was was
Speaker 1: deeply malignant. Joe snapped awake and bolted out of bed
Speaker 1: Before he realized where he was, he jumped half way
Speaker 1: across the room. For the rest of the night, Joe
Speaker 1: lay on the carpet with a light on, trying to
Speaker 1: quiet his hammering heart, Still fighting the pressing urged to run.
Speaker 1: Only when dawn came, was he finally able to find
Speaker 1: sleep again. It was a few nights later, as Joe
Speaker 1: was washing some dishes that he was startled by a loud,
Speaker 1: rapid knocking at the front door. Joe shouted that he
Speaker 1: was coming as he dried his hands on a dishcloth,
Speaker 1: but the knocking continued, growing more and more intense, so
Speaker 1: much so that Joe was sure it must have been
Speaker 1: Rob or VICKI with an emergency. Okay, okay, he said,
Speaker 1: as the knocking kept going until he turned the handle
Speaker 1: and opened the door. Then all went quiet. There was
Speaker 1: no one there. Joe's apartment was only reachable by a
Speaker 1: switch back wooden staircase. There was no one on the
Speaker 1: landing or the stairs either. Thoroughly bewildered, Joe closed the
Speaker 1: door and turned to see his dog Fred standing in
Speaker 1: the center of the living room, hackles raised, staring at
Speaker 1: the bedroom door. Joe followed Fred's stare and jumped at
Speaker 1: what appeared to be a figure hurriedly crossing the doorway.
Speaker 1: Keeping Fred by his side, Joe called out for whoever
Speaker 1: was there to come out. Hearing nothing in reply, he
Speaker 1: steeled himself and stepped quietly toward the bedroom. Door. Then
Speaker 1: he stepped inside hugely, relieved to find the room completely empty.
Speaker 1: At first, he assumed he'd just been seeing things because
Speaker 1: he was tired, but then he remembered the knocking too,
Speaker 1: that he hadn't imagined. About a month into Joe's stay,
Speaker 1: he took Fred for a night time walk around the property.
Speaker 1: They just turned for home when Joe noticed that Fred
Speaker 1: was no longer at his sight. Then he heard him growling.
Speaker 1: Scanning the moonlit grounds, Joe saw Fred a dozen paces
Speaker 1: away on the far side of the main house, near
Speaker 1: the tree line. As was later claimed, Fred was standing
Speaker 1: in a defensive crouch, barking at a male figure in
Speaker 1: a red shirt. The man was said to be standing
Speaker 1: still and facing away from Joe, looking into the woods,
Speaker 1: when suddenly he spurred into movement and disappeared into the
Speaker 1: labyrinth of branches and shadows. Joe shuddered when he realized
Speaker 1: the man had no legs from the thighs down. Then,
Speaker 1: to his dismay, Fred gave Chase with no choice but
Speaker 1: to go after him. Joe had only gone a few
Speaker 1: paces into the trees when he found Fred purposefully standing
Speaker 1: his ground but still in some distress, and he was
Speaker 1: staring directly at Joe, or, as Joe realized, with a chill,
Speaker 1: at something behind him. Fred growled again. Slowly, Joe turned,
Speaker 1: and there, just a foot away, stood the man in
Speaker 1: the red shirt. It said that Joe, in a panic,
Speaker 1: grabbed Fred and rushed straight back to his apartment, where
Speaker 1: he barred the door and spent another sleepless night peering
Speaker 1: out at the window at the now menacing dark of
Speaker 1: the farm. Such an incident would have been enough to
Speaker 1: send most people fleeing, but as Joe later said, it
Speaker 1: was difficult to walk away from such a convenient situation
Speaker 1: until the following night, at least once more. Late in
Speaker 1: the evening, Joe claimed he heard a knocking at his door.
Speaker 1: This time, however, the door was physically shifting in its
Speaker 1: frame under the weight of the blows. When Joe finally
Speaker 1: found the courage to open it once again, he found
Speaker 1: the same empty landing on the other side of it.
Speaker 1: Then something made him freeze. The heavy metal knocker was
Speaker 1: apparently hanging suspended perpendicular to the door, as if howled
Speaker 1: by an invisible hand. Joe claimed to have watched it
Speaker 1: tremble in place for several seconds until it slammed down
Speaker 1: heavy and loud against the wood, sending Joe jumping in
Speaker 1: fright back into the apartment and slamming the door shut
Speaker 1: behind him. Then he watched in horror as the door
Speaker 1: handle twisted and turned for several silent seconds. A tremendous
Speaker 1: blow shattered the lock and sent the door flinging violently inward.
Speaker 1: In terror, Joe fled into the night and sprinted desperately
Speaker 1: toward the main house, turning back to look at his apartment,
Speaker 1: where the broken door yawned open. He later a claim
Speaker 1: to see something standing in the doorway, a figure dressed
Speaker 1: in white and dripping wet, his face contorted in pain
Speaker 1: or anguish. A sound was emanating from his mouth, though
Speaker 1: it was muted, Joe had no doubt the man was screaming.
Speaker 1: Vicky and Rob are said to have been asleep when
Speaker 1: they heard Joe pounding on the front door, clearly in distress.
Speaker 1: They invited him to take a seat in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: then sprink. He apparently told them about everything he'd experienced
Speaker 1: so far. Vicki and Rob are said to have received
Speaker 1: it all with an almost eerie calm, much to Joe's surprise,
Speaker 1: But when he filled them in. On his confrontation with
Speaker 1: the man in red, Vicki's face apparently went pale. The
Speaker 1: three of them are said to have come to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that it was one of Herb Baumeister's victims. There
Speaker 1: are some who believed that malignancy reverberates that spectral after
Speaker 1: shocks can occur as the result of seismically awful events,
Speaker 1: that perhaps that is what happened at Fox Hollow Farm.
Speaker 1: After all, who else would the apparent entities be than
Speaker 1: the victims of Herb Baumeister's crimes, still lingering at the
Speaker 1: site of their end. This theory was endorsed, at least
Speaker 1: in Joe and the Graves's opinion, when a few days later,
Speaker 1: Rob was walking through the woods when just off the
Speaker 1: trail he saw a pile of leaves that looked newly assembled.
Speaker 1: Sitting plain as day on top of them was an
Speaker 1: intact human femur. It would have been an astonishing find,
Speaker 1: as the site had been thoroughly searched over many months,
Speaker 1: with thousands of tiny bone fragments already removed and cataloged.
Speaker 1: As Rob would later write, it felt to him like
Speaker 1: a plea, like a victim was reaching out, trying to
Speaker 1: let them know he was there. Vicky and Rob reached
Speaker 1: out to the local police and arranged for the bone
Speaker 1: to be taken in for testing. The lead investigator, Virgil Vandergriff,
Speaker 1: took responsibility and even agreed to come out to the
Speaker 1: farm to talk the graves through what had occurred there
Speaker 1: in whatever detail he could to put their worries at rest.
Speaker 1: In finding and offloading that bone, Rob, Vicki, and Joe
Speaker 1: are said to have begun to believe that maybe they'd
Speaker 1: released whatever entity remained ensnared at the farm. They thought
Speaker 1: of it as an exorcism of sorts. But there was
Speaker 1: one more twist to come, As Rob recounts it in
Speaker 1: his book. One early afternoon, Joe was sitting at his
Speaker 1: kitchen table when he apparently heard a scratching, rattling noise
Speaker 1: coming from the counter behind him. Turning, he saw that
Speaker 1: each of his sharp knives had been somehow taken from
Speaker 1: the butcher block and laid out in a neat row
Speaker 1: on the countertop. Drawing closer, he apparently saw that deep
Speaker 1: marks had been carved underneath them. It said that Joe
Speaker 1: instinctively thought that the scored inscription looked desperate, emotional, even angry.
Speaker 1: On an impulse, he reached for his phone and hit
Speaker 1: the record button, and in the silent, empty kitchen, he
Speaker 1: began to ask questions, who's there? Can we help you?
Speaker 1: But nothing came back. Then Fred began to growl, apparrenly,
Speaker 1: convinced that someone or something was with him in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Joe is said to have repeated the question is there
Speaker 1: anyone there? Again, to no reply. Then he ended the recording. Later,
Speaker 1: Joe uploaded the file on his computer and hit playback.
Speaker 1: According to Rob, as Joe sat in the lonely quiet
Speaker 1: of his apartment, he listened as his voice repeatedly asked questions,
Speaker 1: with only the slight hiss of ambience heard in between.
Speaker 1: Then Fred's growl was hurt followed by Joe's final question
Speaker 1: is anyone there? Then, from out of the silence that ensued,
Speaker 1: Joe heard what sounded like a gravelly male voice. He
Speaker 1: pulled the clip back and played it out again in astonishment.
Speaker 1: It sounded like it was saying the married one. Excited
Speaker 1: and confused, Joe apparently took the recording to Rob and Vicki,
Speaker 1: who were also convinced it was a voice, but what
Speaker 1: did it mean? All the victims had been young, gay men,
Speaker 1: and all single or at least unmarried. Only one person
Speaker 1: involved in the Fox Hollow murders had been married. Herb Baumeister,
Speaker 1: Vicky and Rob Graves stayed at Fox Hollow Farm for
Speaker 1: several years after these apparent events. They claimed to have
Speaker 1: had other strange occurrences, but nothing that matched the severity
Speaker 1: of what Joe is said to have experienced, and neither
Speaker 1: the legless man in Red nor the drenched Man in
Speaker 1: white were ever seen again. No one really knows how
Speaker 1: many victims Herb Baumeister killed and put in the ground.
Speaker 1: There are thousands of bone fragments, many of them too
Speaker 1: small to attribute. As of late twenty twenty five, ten
Speaker 1: victims have been positively identified. Their names are Roger Goodlett,
Speaker 1: Daniel Howerin, Jeffrey Jones, Manuel Rosendez, Alan Livingstone, John Lee Byer,
Speaker 1: Richard Hamilton Junior, Stephen Hale, Alan Brossard, and Michael Ken.
Speaker 1: But that is just on the farm. Between nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: and nineteen ninety one, an unknown killer proud of four
Speaker 1: block radius of downtown Indianapolis, at least eleven boys and
Speaker 1: young men were lured from Bart's strangled and their body
Speaker 1: discarded in the ditches and streams along Interstate seventy. They
Speaker 1: theorized that in nineteen ninety one, the killer was able
Speaker 1: to stop disposing of the bodies by the side of
Speaker 1: the road because now he had a safer place to
Speaker 1: put them. Was Fox Hollow Farm, the primary setting for
Speaker 1: Herb Baumeister's Depravity, or just an epilog to a much
Speaker 1: longer story. Like so many of the unknown horrors that
Speaker 1: occur in the nightmare shadows of human history, those questions
Speaker 1: seem destined to remain forever Unexplained. This episode was written
Speaker 1: by Neil McRobert and Richard McLain Smith. Thank you as
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