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Speaker 2: Bed?
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Speaker 2: There's a ghost in my house.
Speaker 3: Hello Lily, Hello, where are you?
Speaker 4: I am in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Ooh, the Midway.
Speaker 4: Am I the first Wisconsin person on here?
Speaker 3: I don't know, come to think of it.
Speaker 5: You know, my parents live in Holland, Michigan, so right
Speaker 5: by you were from Grand Rapids, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's true. I've spent some time in Holland. I've
Speaker 3: been on a CD in Holland before.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: So, okay, I was reading this email you sent me
Speaker 3: you lived in, like I'm guessing it sounds like it
Speaker 3: was the house that all the kids in the neighborhood
Speaker 3: were like, that place is spooky, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So our house was literally like the urban legend
Speaker 5: of the town. So our house was built in like
Speaker 5: the eighteen hundreds by the first ever mayor of our town.
Speaker 5: And across the street there's like this really creepy like
Speaker 5: matching water tower. It doesn't look like a water tower.
Speaker 5: It just looks like kind of a house thing.
Speaker 4: I don't really know how to explain it.
Speaker 3: But this is in Wisconsin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in Wisconsin. And the rumor is that somebody
Speaker 5: hung herself in there, and that if you drive by
Speaker 5: it or walk by it at night, you can see
Speaker 5: her in there in the water tower. Oh wow, Like
Speaker 5: it's like a tall building with windows. But yeah, so
Speaker 5: that was like the urban legend of the town. And
Speaker 5: before we moved in there, our house was a bed
Speaker 5: and breakfast and it was already on like lists of
Speaker 5: haunted places in Wisconsin to go to. So we would
Speaker 5: literally have people like knocking on our door like can
Speaker 5: we come in, like we want to see if.
Speaker 4: We have an experience or whatever, and we were like,
Speaker 4: come on, like, this is our house.
Speaker 3: So were your parents Did your parents like think anything
Speaker 3: of that or there's like whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, they really didn't believe in it at all.
Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, people would like come, try to come inside,
Speaker 5: and I just had like numerous really creepy experiences there.
Speaker 3: Well, how did it start? Like what when you move
Speaker 3: into a haunted house? Like what's the first thing?
Speaker 5: So the first thing that I noticed was like my
Speaker 5: bedroom was on the top floor and above me was
Speaker 5: the atticic and all the time I would hear just
Speaker 5: like footsteps up there, like somebody was walking up there,
Speaker 5: and sometimes I know, I know, And then sometimes I
Speaker 5: would hear like scratching, like right above my bedroom, like
Speaker 5: somebody was scratching. I mean, it could have been like
Speaker 5: a squirrel, but I don't think it was.
Speaker 4: You never know.
Speaker 5: And so there was that, and like random cold spots
Speaker 5: in the house. People reported that too when it was
Speaker 5: a bed and breakfast.
Speaker 4: So I experienced a lot of that.
Speaker 5: And then one of the first things that I really
Speaker 5: noticed was I would wake up in the morning and
Speaker 5: I would have like scratches all over my body, like
Speaker 5: claw marks.
Speaker 2: Almost.
Speaker 3: Now, that could have been a squirrel too, I know.
Speaker 4: I was like, am I being attacked in my sleep?
Speaker 3: I don't know, So it could be a squirrel ghost,
Speaker 3: which is scary too.
Speaker 4: It could or like a raccoon ghost. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I didn't really think that much of it
Speaker 5: at first, and then I started like having girl like
Speaker 5: I started making friends, and like girls would come and
Speaker 5: sleep over and then they would wake up with scratch
Speaker 5: marks all over their body too. So that was when
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, this is not normal. Another thing,
Speaker 5: I would wake up sometimes in the middle of the
Speaker 5: night and my lights would just be like flicking on
Speaker 5: and off, like somebody was standing there, just like literally flipping.
Speaker 4: My light switch was there and soft.
Speaker 3: The switch was actually being.
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 5: It wasn't, not that I know of, but it wasn't
Speaker 5: like it wasn't like an electrical like flickering. It was
Speaker 5: like on and off, on and off. And I don't
Speaker 5: know if anybody else in my family that ever happened to.
Speaker 5: And then there was another time I was just like
Speaker 5: laying in my bed, chilling in my room, probably like
Speaker 5: reading or something, and literally this voice just talked like
Speaker 5: straight into my ear. It wasn't like a whisper. It
Speaker 5: just sounded like a male voice, and he said something
Speaker 5: like high little girl or something like that. I just
Speaker 5: remember he said little girl, and it was just right
Speaker 5: in my ear, and I freaked out. That was the
Speaker 5: only time I heard a voice like that, but it
Speaker 5: was so clear and like, I don't know, it was
Speaker 5: really creepy.
Speaker 3: Though, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then the biggest thing was me and my friends
Speaker 5: decided to throw like a surprise birthday party.
Speaker 4: For one of my other girlfriends at my house.
Speaker 5: And so it was like middle of the night and
Speaker 5: we were like, let's have a seance because I had
Speaker 5: already started like experiencing all these things and I was
Speaker 5: telling them about it, and they were like, well, let's
Speaker 5: have a seance and see if we can get any action.
Speaker 5: And so we like turned off all the lights and
Speaker 5: set up all these candles, and in hindsight, this probably
Speaker 5: was not a good idea because we didn't know what
Speaker 5: we were doing, and so we were just saying the
Speaker 5: basic you know, like if there's anybody here, reveal yourself.
Speaker 4: Or like give us a sign.
Speaker 5: And we had all these balloons blown up, and in
Speaker 5: the back of the living room, one just popped like
Speaker 5: when we are saying all this, and that freaked us out, obviously,
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 4: So we kept on going with it.
Speaker 5: I don't know why, and the TV was off, and
Speaker 5: then the TV turned on just went like ballistic. It
Speaker 5: was like changing channels, going all static, and then it
Speaker 5: stepped like on a face for like a split second
Speaker 5: and then just turned off. And then after that we're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we got a stop. So we went to bed that
Speaker 5: night and then the same thing happened in the middle
Speaker 5: of the night, lights turning on and off.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I keep thinking about the rest of your family though,
Speaker 3: so did they have any other experiences?
Speaker 5: So my brother and my sister like kind of felt
Speaker 5: the same things that I did, Like they would definitely
Speaker 5: hear like footsteps, especially when no one was home. Like
Speaker 5: it would just sound like people were going up and
Speaker 5: down the steps. Definitely, they both felt cold spots too.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they ever had like as much
Speaker 5: as I did. But I'm also much more of like
Speaker 5: a believer in these things than they are, So that
Speaker 5: could be why my parents were totally like, you're crazy,
Speaker 5: but I know I'm not interesting.
Speaker 3: Have you talked to them like in hindsight like nowadays,
Speaker 3: being like, so, I know you told me when I
Speaker 3: was younger that it didn't happen. Does anything happen?
Speaker 4: No, you know what.
Speaker 5: They moved out of there, and honestly, my parents are
Speaker 5: very like religious, and so I don't think they would
Speaker 5: even like I'm not even gonna waste my breath trying
Speaker 5: to convince them of anything, you know.
Speaker 3: Got it? Yeah, So did you ever find out like
Speaker 3: what really happened there?
Speaker 5: I mean, it's such an old house, so I can
Speaker 5: only imagine like how many people probably died in there,
Speaker 5: and like, who knows what.
Speaker 4: I would like to do more research. And you know
Speaker 4: what else, the water tower when we were living there,
Speaker 4: in the middle of the night it went up in
Speaker 4: flames and it burned.
Speaker 3: Down when you were living there, Yep.
Speaker 5: We literally woke up in the middle of the night
Speaker 5: to this loud, loud sound, look out the window, and
Speaker 5: the whole thing was on fire.
Speaker 3: What happened We don't know.
Speaker 5: Either the demon energy burned it down or somebody said
Speaker 5: it on fire, which I don't know why anybody would
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Okay, if our listener, Samantha is listening to this,
Speaker 3: she's the one that works in historical preservation. I want
Speaker 3: her to be our old house correspondent if if she's
Speaker 3: able to get in contact with you and find out
Speaker 3: like the address and stuff, I want to know what happened.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5: And my house was on the like it's on the
Speaker 5: historical like homes list or whatever, like it has a
Speaker 5: plaque outside.
Speaker 3: Will you sent me a picture?
Speaker 4: Is yeah, did you see that?
Speaker 3: It's a cool picture. Well it's also snowy in the
Speaker 3: picture and it looks like, yeah, it looks like if
Speaker 3: you're at like a department store and there's a little
Speaker 3: display during Christmas time of like little houses. Like it's
Speaker 3: like a perfect little like almost looks like a church,
Speaker 3: like just adorable little old house, but it has like
Speaker 3: the tower.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when we moved in it was like
Speaker 5: wallpaper and they had all these creepy little like Victorian
Speaker 5: like baby dresses hanging on the walls.
Speaker 4: It was just creepy.
Speaker 5: Like we renovated it obviously, but yeah, it was definitely
Speaker 5: creepy vibe to that place.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow. Okay, so you were also telling me about
Speaker 3: you saw somebody that was possessed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was at my high school.
Speaker 5: I wasn't there for the actual possession, but I can
Speaker 5: tell you the whole story because my high school that
Speaker 5: I went to this year, I mean the freshman my
Speaker 5: freshman year.
Speaker 4: Sorry, it was like a hundred kids, and it was
Speaker 4: very much like a Christian high school and.
Speaker 5: So like everybody knew everybody's business, and this was like
Speaker 5: the crazy thing that happened.
Speaker 4: And I totally like, I know, I know that this happened.
Speaker 3: So okay, what happened.
Speaker 4: There was this group of kids, I think it was
Speaker 4: all boys.
Speaker 5: They were like a year two older than me, and
Speaker 5: one night they were just like hanging out watching scary movies.
Speaker 5: I think they were watching like Rosemary's Baby or something.
Speaker 5: And there's this spot in our town where it's like
Speaker 5: another haunted spot.
Speaker 4: It's this place like out.
Speaker 5: In the country and there's like a cross because somebody
Speaker 5: died out there, and it's just like there's an urban
Speaker 5: legend surrounding that place too.
Speaker 4: So they decided after they watched this movie that they
Speaker 4: were going to go out to this area.
Speaker 5: And one of the kids that was with them, okay,
Speaker 5: he wasn't a kid, he was in high school.
Speaker 4: But he once he was there, he just started to
Speaker 4: not feel like very good at all.
Speaker 5: He said that he just had some like very evil
Speaker 5: energy I guess surrounding him. He wasn't feeling good, so
Speaker 5: he decided to drive home, and then his friend was
Speaker 5: supposed to be sleeping over at his house, and so
Speaker 5: his friend goes back like shortly after to the kid's house,
Speaker 5: and he said that he found the other boy like
Speaker 5: under his covers, and he was really scared, and he
Speaker 5: was saying, like, go get help from one of the
Speaker 5: teachers at the school because he was like his next
Speaker 5: door neighbor. And so his friend ran over to our
Speaker 5: teacher's house, and then that teacher grabbed his parents, who
Speaker 5: lived like next door to him, and so when they
Speaker 5: got back to the house, the kid was like classic possession,
Speaker 5: like speaking different language, extremely like very violent almost like
Speaker 5: more strong than he should have been, like trying to
Speaker 5: fight my teacher and his parents, and he was like
Speaker 5: spitting on them. Yeah, just like very possessed, I guess
Speaker 5: you could say. And so my teacher and then his
Speaker 5: parents had to do an exorcism. I don't really know
Speaker 5: the details of the exorcism because he wouldn't tell us.
Speaker 5: But then afterwards, the kid told me that he on
Speaker 5: his drive home he had to pull over so many
Speaker 5: times because he said that he was like the feeling
Speaker 5: of like this evil energy was so overwhelming and he
Speaker 5: could just feel it like trying to take over, I guess.
Speaker 5: And he said that he could hear it in his head,
Speaker 5: like telling him nasty things like oh, I'm going to
Speaker 5: kill you, I'm going to kill your whole family, I'm
Speaker 5: going to kill your friends, whatever. And then he doesn't
Speaker 5: remember anything after it like completely took over until after
Speaker 5: the exorcism.
Speaker 3: So, oh my god, Wait, what is the place that
Speaker 3: he was at?
Speaker 5: So yeah, So it's like out in the country where
Speaker 5: I grew up in Wisconsin. It's like pretty rural, and
Speaker 5: it's it's like this bend in the road, I guess,
Speaker 5: down this country road and there's this cross out there.
Speaker 5: And the whole thing is that if you go there
Speaker 5: and you stop and you blink your lights three times,
Speaker 5: that you'll see like this black figure suspend it up
Speaker 5: in the air.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: Oh and I do have one other story that happened
Speaker 5: to me. Okay, So this was at my friend's house.
Speaker 5: She lived like down the street from me. I think
Speaker 5: we are freshmen in high school at this point, and
Speaker 5: we were just like hang out in her room and
Speaker 5: no one was home, and her bed like faced her
Speaker 5: bedroom door, and so we were sitting in her bed
Speaker 5: and her door was open out into the hallway and
Speaker 5: we were just hanging out whatever, and then we both
Speaker 5: saw just this tall, like six foot maybe two or
Speaker 5: three figure, a black figure like just walk past the door,
Speaker 5: and we freaked out. We ran down to the basement,
Speaker 5: locked the door. And then while we're sitting in the basement,
Speaker 5: there was a shelf and it had like a like
Speaker 5: a plug in air freshener sitting on the shelf, and
Speaker 5: it literally flew off the shelf and hit the wall
Speaker 5: across the room like somebody had picked it up and
Speaker 5: thrown it.
Speaker 3: Who was that.
Speaker 2: The ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I knew it was. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think my town is just cursed or just completely haunted.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But had your friend had encounters with that presence?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said that she had seen it like multiple times.
Speaker 3: Really, yep, what is going on in Wisconsin?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The funny thing is, though, at her place that felt
Speaker 5: like very scary, but all the stuff that happened at
Speaker 5: my house didn't really feel like like I was never
Speaker 5: really that scared. It was definitely a little like unnerving,
Speaker 5: but I didn't feel like it was gonna hurt me
Speaker 5: or anything.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It could have just been.
Speaker 3: What about the scratches, I know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. I really don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I wonder who lives there now, That's what I
Speaker 3: always think about.
Speaker 4: I actually know who lives there now?
Speaker 3: Do you know them?
Speaker 4: Know them?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Okay, So my house and the house across the street,
Speaker 5: we're both part of the Bed and Breakfast and my
Speaker 5: house was called I don't even care if people look
Speaker 5: this up because I don't look there and live there anymore,
Speaker 5: but it was called the Henry Houston House. And then
Speaker 5: across the street is the Gilbert Houston House, and so
Speaker 5: the house across the street was still a bed and breakfast,
Speaker 5: and then when we finally decided to move, they bought
Speaker 5: my house and they turned it back into a bed
Speaker 5: and breakfast. So I think people can go stay there
Speaker 5: if they want to, really, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: So, Oh my god, this Yeah, I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 5: I think the one across the street is called the
Speaker 5: Yankee Hill Inn or something like that.
Speaker 3: Now is that does that place?
Speaker 5: That place is also haunted? Yeah, yeah, that one is
Speaker 5: on the lists two. There are stories of people who
Speaker 5: stayed there and worked there, like none of the workers
Speaker 5: ever wanted to be there alone because it just creepy,
Speaker 5: like things would fall off the walls, like mirrors would
Speaker 5: fall off the wall, things like that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, fascinating. Hello Karen, how are you Ray?
Speaker 3: You're in La?
Speaker 2: I am in La. I actually got to go to
Speaker 2: the last live show that you did with Dave Holmes.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. I ate it Casita del Campa
Speaker 2: before and it was awesome.
Speaker 3: It was great. Oh I love that place. I miss it.
Speaker 3: I hope that we can get back there at some
Speaker 3: point soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who knows.
Speaker 3: That place is called the Cavern Club and it's literally
Speaker 3: a cavern, and I cannot imagine being down there what
Speaker 3: while this world is going on right now. So hopefully soon,
Speaker 3: hopefully one day we'll be back down there.
Speaker 2: Outdoor events is the new future.
Speaker 3: We might have to we might have to do live
Speaker 3: shows and cemeteries. I might have to do a cemetery
Speaker 3: tour from now on. Yes, Okay, I was looking at
Speaker 3: this email you sent me, and you sent me twenty
Speaker 3: thousand spooky things to talk about.
Speaker 2: So I'm a Gemini, So I'm just information overload all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are a spooky person. So let's where should
Speaker 3: we start.
Speaker 2: Let's start at the biggest one. The full Batty apparition
Speaker 2: is probably my claim to fame, so to speak, paranormal
Speaker 2: stuff with my friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing that everyone wants to see.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 2: So I had just I was about eight or nine,
Speaker 2: and we had just moved to New Orleans, That's where
Speaker 2: I grew up. But I like was born up in
Speaker 2: Washington State, and we lived in this duplex that like
Speaker 2: butted upright against a levee, and it was a really
Speaker 2: creepy place all around, and specifically like the upstairs where
Speaker 2: our bedrooms were. It's you know, curved stairway, and then
Speaker 2: the long hallway that like terminated in a guest room
Speaker 2: that was just like always dark and creepy and had
Speaker 2: a futon, and my room was like directly to the
Speaker 2: right of it, so I had to like walk almost
Speaker 2: to the guest room to get to my room. And
Speaker 2: I always avoided looking at it. You know, when it's
Speaker 2: like dark and you don't you just know you don't
Speaker 2: want to look. You know you're gonna see something you
Speaker 2: don't want to look. So I never looked at it.
Speaker 2: And then one night I'm coming up the stairs, I'm
Speaker 2: staring at the ground. I'm in my little nightgown, and
Speaker 2: I like sneak peek up right before I get into
Speaker 2: my room, and there's a boy just sitting on the
Speaker 2: futon and he was he was like pretty solid, but
Speaker 2: definitely didn't look like a human sitting in the room.
Speaker 2: I like definitely perceived him as a ghost. And he
Speaker 2: had like he looked a lot like a kid, like
Speaker 2: what I perceived at eight years old to what like
Speaker 2: a preteen in the fifties would look like he had
Speaker 2: like a striped T shirt and shorts and like high
Speaker 2: socks and glasses. I always thought of Martin Star's character
Speaker 2: in Freaks and Geeks as the ghost.
Speaker 3: But he was there and then, But why do you
Speaker 3: think that he didn't look human? Like what was it about?
Speaker 2: It was kind of transparent, so like he looked I
Speaker 2: guess what I mean is he didn't look solid. I
Speaker 2: didn't because I know some people when they see ghosts,
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, I didn't know it was a ghost.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was like a person standing in
Speaker 2: the place. Yeah, this was definitely like transparent and kind
Speaker 2: of glowing. It was very it was it was very
Speaker 2: obviously supernatural, is what I mean. Yeah, and I ran
Speaker 2: into my room crying, of course, called for my parents,
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was like very much the whole the
Speaker 2: house always felt super weird and it was definitely like
Speaker 2: a direct confirmation of my like total fear of that
Speaker 2: room always. I don't think I like maybe ever went
Speaker 2: into it again.
Speaker 3: Well, I think like the spookiest thing in a house,
Speaker 3: even haunted or not, is like when a door is
Speaker 3: open you can see into the room. But it's pitch
Speaker 3: black in there. I can't walk by that. That's just
Speaker 3: absolutely right.
Speaker 2: I know I can't do it. I like keep rooms
Speaker 2: or doors closed, same, Yeah, I can't do it.
Speaker 3: Wait, so did anybody else ever see this little boy?
Speaker 1: No? One?
Speaker 2: My parents never saw anything. To my knowledge, I have.
Speaker 2: I asked my mom about it, and I think I
Speaker 2: asked my dad, but they never saw anything.
Speaker 3: But you were also so young. I don't know what
Speaker 3: the cutoff is for, like when they say little kids
Speaker 3: see ghosts more, I don't know what that can. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure that that could be different ages for different people,
Speaker 3: but it seems like maybe maybe because you were so young,
Speaker 3: that's why you had that experience. And he was also
Speaker 3: a little boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. I because I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything since, and I'm you know, I'm been into
Speaker 2: the paranormal since before this story even took place, and
Speaker 2: so I've always wanted to and often I'll forget that
Speaker 2: I've seen a ghost. I'd be like, I wish I
Speaker 2: could see a ghost, and then I'm like, oh I did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that already happened. But I also so my mom did
Speaker 2: hear voices? She was sleeping one morning and she heard
Speaker 2: someone whisper her name in her ear. Her name is Melissa,
Speaker 2: so I was like Melissa, and then like through earplugs
Speaker 2: because she always wear earplugs all through my life and
Speaker 2: now I do too, but through her ear plugs heard
Speaker 2: the whisper and then like woke up and was like
Speaker 2: what and looked over and my dad was like dead asleep.
Speaker 2: I know, I know. And then I also heard a
Speaker 2: voice once. So my room was such so there I
Speaker 2: was like the smaller bedroom I was a small child,
Speaker 2: And then there was a master bedroom where they had
Speaker 2: their own master bathroom kind of on the other side
Speaker 2: of the room, but we shared a wall, and on
Speaker 2: that wall was my closet. And that was one night
Speaker 2: I heard a voice come from my closet, but it
Speaker 2: sounded like Grover. It was like a very like like
Speaker 2: the kind of voice that my dad would like put
Speaker 2: on as a funny voice like and he said karoun oh,
Speaker 2: and I go. I heard the voice, and I it
Speaker 2: didn't sound scary. It was like very cute and fun
Speaker 2: So I thought it was my dad like coming through
Speaker 2: the wall, and not coming through the wall, but like
Speaker 2: yelling through the wall or something. So I run into
Speaker 2: my parents room because they share a wall, and he's
Speaker 2: in the bathroom brushing his teeth. Both of my parents
Speaker 2: are and I was like, did you just wish me
Speaker 2: good night? And they were like, no, we were gonna
Speaker 2: come in in a few minutes. That oh god, that
Speaker 2: was Yeah, that was a rough one. I also had
Speaker 2: like so many like really vivid nightmares there, and like
Speaker 2: it was kind of around the time. I've always been
Speaker 2: afraid of the dark, Like I've just never been good
Speaker 2: at sleeping all my life, from much longer before this place,
Speaker 2: but it was around that time that we were like
Speaker 2: making the transition from like my mom being a much
Speaker 2: like my parents being a less active role in bedtime,
Speaker 2: like Okay, you can fall asleep on your own, maybe
Speaker 2: we'll turn the light off, that kind of thing. I
Speaker 2: was kind of a late bloomer when it comes to that.
Speaker 2: And the first I just nightmare after nightmare after nightmare
Speaker 2: of like ants eating my face and but it was
Speaker 2: just a lot of very weird energy in that house consistently.
Speaker 3: Oh so when did you move out?
Speaker 2: We moved out. We were only in there for about
Speaker 2: a year and a half. It was like late eight
Speaker 2: to early ten. If my memory serves, and I really
Speaker 2: thought I was, like, so by the time we left,
Speaker 2: that's when it kind of clicked, like, oh, it's haunted.
Speaker 2: And I was like kind of excited about it at
Speaker 2: that point because it was very clearly like pretty benign,
Speaker 2: and I was really I really wanted it to follow
Speaker 2: us into our next.
Speaker 3: Place, but really it didn't.
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably for the best.
Speaker 3: So then, what what has happened to you? So you
Speaker 3: contacted a friend that had passed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I am a witch. I've been practicing
Speaker 2: since I was about thirteen ish and part of the
Speaker 2: reason I like started that early was because I had
Speaker 2: this friend. And it's one of those things where it's
Speaker 2: like in retrospect, I had this friend who was like
Speaker 2: an older man, which is like, you know, very it
Speaker 2: could be weird. It wasn't weird, but I feel like
Speaker 2: I always have to tell people like, don't worry, it
Speaker 2: wasn't weird. But he was a friend of my mom's
Speaker 2: and he would babysit me, and he was like really
Speaker 2: into He was into like dark shit. He was like
Speaker 2: a like adult goth, but not in like appearance, just
Speaker 2: like he was really into Dia de La Smertos, and
Speaker 2: he was really into like witchcraft and into like Edward
Speaker 2: Gory and HP Lovecraft and a lot of yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of dark stuff. He would take me to like museums.
Speaker 2: There's a museum in New Orleans or I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's still around called like Necromantic Museum with like
Speaker 2: this goth art. When I was like ten, it was
Speaker 2: it was great art. I was already into that stuff
Speaker 2: and he really showed me the way. And so, but
Speaker 2: he was like in his sixties definitely when I met him,
Speaker 2: and we were you know, he was in my life
Speaker 2: for like a good five or so years. And then
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen, I went away to camp and
Speaker 2: he died, but my parents didn't tell me until I
Speaker 2: got back, so I didn't like have I didn't go
Speaker 2: to his funeral. I didn't have a chance to say
Speaker 2: goodbye at all. And that was that summer. And so
Speaker 2: when the first like sourin Halloween time when the veils
Speaker 2: are thin came around, I decided to like do my
Speaker 2: first like really legit witchy ritual, and I like you know,
Speaker 2: tried to contact him, and I don't really remember the
Speaker 2: specifics of like the actual ritual, but part of it
Speaker 2: was kind of opening the way, making it very clear
Speaker 2: that I was like welcoming this very specific spirit. And
Speaker 2: I'd made an altar and I still do like a
Speaker 2: uh so an altar every year with all the people
Speaker 2: who've passed in recent years. So I had like a
Speaker 2: picture of him and stuff, and I was like meditating
Speaker 2: at the wall and it was like a zipper unzipped
Speaker 2: almost where like or like a like a portal of
Speaker 2: light that was kind of ovular just opened up in
Speaker 2: front of me. And of course this is like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing this with my physical eyes, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, it was very clearly focused on one
Speaker 2: part of the wall, and it was again, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like it's not there. Weren't like literal words or anything
Speaker 2: like that, but I was immediately like immediately in tears.
Speaker 2: Is so like deeply knowing that Oh's name was Terry,
Speaker 2: so deeply knowing that it was Terry coming through, and
Speaker 2: like he told me that it was okay, and that
Speaker 2: because I felt really guilty for even though it wasn't
Speaker 2: up to me that I didn't get to say by
Speaker 2: I still felt like a guilt for not being there
Speaker 2: and it was he was my first he was the
Speaker 2: first person who died. You know, there's always like that
Speaker 2: first close person to die in your life, and he
Speaker 2: was that for me other than like my cat and
Speaker 2: my first like mentor. And it was yeah, very immediately,
Speaker 2: like totally floored by the feeling of him kind of
Speaker 2: encompassing me and telling me it was okay and that
Speaker 2: he's fine. And then kind of after a certain amount
Speaker 2: of time I don't know, maybe ten minutes, but felt
Speaker 2: like a really long time, the portal or whatever closed,
Speaker 2: and I felt just like really really at peace with
Speaker 2: it and have not necessarily felt the need to mourn
Speaker 2: him since, Like I talk about him whenever that part
Speaker 2: of my life comes up, and he's still very important
Speaker 2: to me, but like it really did kind of like
Speaker 2: seal the process.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I've tried, you know, I've lost a ton of
Speaker 2: people since then, and like I've tried basically every year
Speaker 2: to kind of replicate that with other people, and it
Speaker 2: just hasn't really happened. And so that was like a
Speaker 2: really special clearly like you know, however it works. He
Speaker 2: was on the other side also willing to talk to
Speaker 2: me back kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, but yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2: Still it's and again it's like I forget that happened,
Speaker 2: and I get down on myself for like, oh, I
Speaker 2: can't make this thing work how I want it to work.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, well, that happened, so clearly something
Speaker 2: is you know, possible, and you know that is so cool.
Speaker 6: So when you lived in New Orleans, m M, I
Speaker 6: feel like there's a lot of like witchcraft down there, right,
Speaker 6: And I, oh, yeah, there's obviously like lots of voodoo.
Speaker 3: I mean, is that still pretty big down there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's actually, well, unsurprisingly, it's made a resurgence
Speaker 2: in recent years as like witchcraft becomes kind of trendy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is not to say that like trendy shops opened up,
Speaker 2: but just that like, you know, there's more money in
Speaker 2: it now, so shops are able to stay open more.
Speaker 2: There were like there was one place that was like
Speaker 2: it was always a witchy shop, but it changed names
Speaker 2: and owners like three times while I was down there,
Speaker 2: and it's been the same thing since. And there's there's
Speaker 2: there's a number of them that are like, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: definitely just a power I like to I find the
Speaker 2: dirt in New Orleans very special to me. Like the
Speaker 2: little Earth is just like because I was there during
Speaker 2: Katrina and it still like smells like Katrina the dirt
Speaker 2: there at least last time I went, which was a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And so it's just like the
Speaker 2: physical earth there holds so much history and like pain
Speaker 2: and also like you know, ecstasy, and it's a really
Speaker 2: energetically loaded town and just like you know, everything is
Speaker 2: haunted also, Yeah, walking through the French Quarter, it's just
Speaker 2: like every building is haunted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I hear. I definitely need to explore
Speaker 3: it more on my own. I was. I was reading
Speaker 3: also that you were talking about how your mom's friend
Speaker 3: used to, yeah, do a tour there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she she used to own a company. She might
Speaker 2: it might still be around because she sold it, but
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. But it was called New
Speaker 2: Orleans Spirit Tours, and there are a bunch of those companies.
Speaker 2: I think Haunted History Tour has been around for like
Speaker 2: twenty years or something. Too much information. So she took
Speaker 2: us on a tour kind of as a treat because
Speaker 2: she was our friend and we had just moved there.
Speaker 2: This was still when we were in the Haunted duplex,
Speaker 2: and I was about nine or ten, so it was
Speaker 2: truly like way too young to take me to a
Speaker 2: supposedly real haunted stories tour. But I was also like
Speaker 2: watching Twilight Zone when I was three with my dad,
Speaker 2: so you know, I got introduced to it early and
Speaker 2: I was already into it and I probably begged to come.
Speaker 2: So maybe it wasn't even up to them. But we
Speaker 2: went on the tour and it still like almost every
Speaker 2: story is still just like deeply, deeply embedded in my
Speaker 2: head because it was such a visceral. If you ever
Speaker 2: get a chance to go on a real haunted tour
Speaker 2: really anywhere, but my experiences in New Orleans, it's so
Speaker 2: different to be like standing in front of or even
Speaker 2: inside of the place that they're telling you the story
Speaker 2: of the haunting or how it became haunted. Oh it's powerful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed them. I've been on. I've been on
Speaker 3: quite a few. I went on one that was really
Speaker 3: cool in San Diego a couple of months back, and
Speaker 3: they actually took us into a house that is some
Speaker 3: old historic I can't even remember what the haunted house
Speaker 3: was at this point. Oh, and we went to a hotel.
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Most of the other ones I had been to were
Speaker 3: just sort of you stand outside of it and they
Speaker 3: tell you a story.
Speaker 2: But I thought that to be inside is really cool.
Speaker 2: I went to the Myrtle Plantation once in Saint Francisville.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a famous haunted place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like that was I talked about in
Speaker 2: my email how I used to like print out pages
Speaker 2: and pages of like websites about haunted stuff and take
Speaker 2: to school to be I was like the creepy girl
Speaker 2: in class who would like bring it the scary stories
Speaker 2: and myrtle plantation and was one of my like favorite topics.
Speaker 2: And so I finally got to visit it. I don't
Speaker 2: know when I was like fifteen or sixteen, and you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't really have any experiences except the lights kept flickering,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, I was a teenager,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I bet that's just like something
Speaker 2: they like do for the tourists. I can't believe I'm
Speaker 2: not having any like personal experiences. And then a couple
Speaker 2: of years later, my friend was like, well, we could
Speaker 2: go stay there, like they rent the rooms out. How
Speaker 2: about we go stay there for your birthday, and immediately
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't think so that sounds
Speaker 2: maybe a step too far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what Bridget Marquard. She's all into and
Speaker 3: she has stayed there before.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh I that sounds great. I love her podcast.
Speaker 3: I want to hear about this person that you lived
Speaker 3: with in Portland.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So I lived in the really sweet queer
Speaker 2: house in Portland for about three years. And when we
Speaker 2: were first moving in, or I was moving in, and
Speaker 2: another person was moving in, this person Nico, And there
Speaker 2: was always something a little off about Nico. They were
Speaker 2: kind of you know, they weren't a great housemate. That's fine,
Speaker 2: they ended up moving out shortly after. But they were
Speaker 2: just like weird energy all around, just very disruptive, kind
Speaker 2: of like bending the room around them at all times,
Speaker 2: those kinds of like I would even dare say, like
Speaker 2: like energy vampire kind of vibes. But they one of
Speaker 2: the things that was notable was that they were like
Speaker 2: convinced that there was this spirit haunting them, and they
Speaker 2: kept having experiences in the house, except none of us
Speaker 2: were having them either or experiencing them. There was one
Speaker 2: time where the power was out, which happened all the time,
Speaker 2: and this entity like like this like human shaped shadow
Speaker 2: came through their window and then stood over them and
Speaker 2: then said something to them. I don't remember what it said,
Speaker 2: but it was not bad, but like vaguely unsettling, and
Speaker 2: then just like stood over them for like ten minutes
Speaker 2: and then like about faced and floated out of the window.
Speaker 2: And they were like, did anything else happen to you?
Speaker 2: And we were like, no, that's wild. And then one
Speaker 2: in particular time, they came home from work and they
Speaker 2: worked with kids. They were like a teaching aid or something,
Speaker 2: and they were at school and this little girl they
Speaker 2: were aiding I don't know, and the little girl was
Speaker 2: drawing and she like puts down her stuff and looks
Speaker 2: at Nico and then kind of just passed Nico. And
Speaker 2: Nico's like, what's wrong? Could I help? And the girl
Speaker 2: was like, well, what's that girl behind you doing? And
Speaker 2: he goes looks around and there's no one behind them,
Speaker 2: and they're like sitting on a some steps and they're like,
Speaker 2: there's what are you talking about? What girl? And the
Speaker 2: little girl keeps pointing and she says, why is she
Speaker 2: walking like that? She's upside down? And oh my god,
Speaker 2: Nico was telling this and like to us in the
Speaker 2: kitchen in like the afternoon, and just like the whole
Speaker 2: room went like cold. It was so scary. I just
Speaker 2: got goosebumpsh and that that's like that's the that's the nightmare. Shit,
Speaker 2: that's the like, that's one of the reasons why I'm like,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't want kids.
Speaker 3: Oh I could not deal with anything of that kind.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: And then just imagining what my parents thought, like eight
Speaker 2: years old, coming in, like did you just tell me
Speaker 2: good night? Someone just told me good night from my closet?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't want to be an adult because
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one that has to
Speaker 3: like look under the bed. No, that would be as
Speaker 3: a parent. I'd be like, uh, bitch, you look under
Speaker 3: the bed. I'm hiding.
Speaker 2: I just became able to deal with spiders. I cannot
Speaker 2: deal with ghosts yet.
Speaker 3: See error. Hello, Hi, where are you?
Speaker 1: I am in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3: No way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: Well where are you from?
Speaker 1: Originally I'm actually from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know I've been there.
Speaker 1: I know I have not taught your show, unfortunately, but someday, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hopefully someday one of these days. I was
Speaker 3: looking at the email you sent me, and you you
Speaker 3: were telling me you have seen full body apparitions. You've
Speaker 3: heard footsteps, you've heard voices, you've seen things move. What
Speaker 3: is going on that?
Speaker 1: Yes, my friends say that I am haunted.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, They're like, how do so many things happen
Speaker 1: to one person? It's ridiculous. And I go when I
Speaker 1: look for stuff like this, so that makes me even
Speaker 1: more crazy, I guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to hear all of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So as for the full body apparition, I've only
Speaker 1: seen one in my life. And I remember when I
Speaker 1: was about, oh, I don't know, like nine or about
Speaker 1: nine Vanish. We were driving in the car at about
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning to get snacks for a sleepover.
Speaker 1: And I remember seeing this woman in a purple cloak
Speaker 1: and she had like curly hair and gorgeous beyond belief,
Speaker 1: and she seemed to be like floating down the street.
Speaker 3: That was me, Oh, I remember, probably, And.
Speaker 1: It said chills down my spine, chills. I was like,
Speaker 1: this woman walking in Oxnard in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night just did not go and I was the only
Speaker 1: one who saw her, and yeah, it was terrifying.
Speaker 3: So what you were like, did you guys just see
Speaker 3: that lady? And they're like no, I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell anyone at that time. It wasn't
Speaker 1: until later on that I talked to people, But my
Speaker 1: cousins and everyone else in the car didn't even notice her.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see her clearly in my mind today.
Speaker 1: It's that was like my first really big experience.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's something going on in Oxnard.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: I have talked to so many people that have told
Speaker 3: me demon stories, ghost stories. It's like just this farm land.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not far from water. I think sometimes
Speaker 3: that affects this kind of act activity. I don't know
Speaker 3: what is up there.
Speaker 1: And then it's also a big, you know, Latino community,
Speaker 1: so you know, religious everything and so but it's it's great.
Speaker 1: I loved, uh love living in Oxford.
Speaker 3: So what where have you heard footsteps?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: When I like teenage years I we went to this
Speaker 1: it's like a bass lake near Yosemite area, and we
Speaker 1: vacation there and one of the houses we stayed in
Speaker 1: was it so haunted. I would hear footsteps upstairs, and
Speaker 1: my uncle said he came into the room and all
Speaker 1: of the drawers and the screen door everything was just
Speaker 1: open and he was like, I did not open any
Speaker 1: of that. So it was it was terrifying, it was
Speaker 1: it was a fun time.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wait.
Speaker 3: So, okay, you stayed at or you went to Glenn's
Speaker 3: Tavern in Santa Paula. Is that the same place?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a different place. Okay, I highly
Speaker 1: recommend you go there if you're looking for a truly
Speaker 1: scary experience. That place so many people who have had experiences.
Speaker 1: So the the story goes is it used to be
Speaker 1: a brothel back in the day, and like cowboys and
Speaker 1: gambling and all that happened there. And on the third floor,
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly there was a sex worker who was
Speaker 1: beheaded in the closet. So it's a it has some
Speaker 1: pretty pretty gruesome history there. So that's usually where you
Speaker 1: see the most activity.
Speaker 3: So has anything happened to you there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, definitely.
Speaker 1: So when I was about nineteen years old, a group
Speaker 1: of my friends, probably about six or seven of us,
Speaker 1: decided to spend the night in that room, and they
Speaker 1: had previously been there and you know, had a bunch
Speaker 1: of experiences. So I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: see ghosts, I feel ghosts, So let's let's just go.
Speaker 1: Let's check out. And so we went and I was determined.
Speaker 1: I was in that closet for hours trying to have
Speaker 1: something happen, and nothing was happening. Pretty quiet night, So
Speaker 1: I decided, not very smart, but I decided to actually
Speaker 1: start cursing at her, basically every bad word you can
Speaker 1: possibly thing to call someone. I just started going off
Speaker 1: on this poor ghost, and in about like I want
Speaker 1: to say, like within the hour, I was sitting in
Speaker 1: the closet with two other people and they had he
Speaker 1: has a bathroom, and you're not pretty brave, but to
Speaker 1: be alone in a haunted closet by myself who kind
Speaker 1: of scared me. So I got out of the closet
Speaker 1: and I went to the bathroom and at that point
Speaker 1: I started to feel burning on my chest and on
Speaker 1: my back, and it was painful burning. So I went
Speaker 1: over to a friend and I was like, is there
Speaker 1: something on my back or something? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm in a lot of pain. And they looked in
Speaker 1: my back and there were three scratch marks on the
Speaker 1: front and on the back, and I have pictures of
Speaker 1: that incident of the scratches.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you think that it was I
Speaker 3: mean a lot of times people think that that's a demon.
Speaker 3: Is that what you were thinking?
Speaker 1: I didn't think that. I thought that she was just
Speaker 1: getting me back for me carylic nails exactly exactly. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get your girl. You're being mean to me.
Speaker 1: Hit my revenge definitely. So yeah, so I got back
Speaker 1: in that closet. I apologized to her. After that, nothing happened,
Speaker 1: so I think she forgave me.
Speaker 3: She's like, we're good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so you know I will scratch you exactly.
Speaker 3: So tell me about having a seance definitely.
Speaker 1: When I so growing up, I lived with my aunts
Speaker 1: who were relative. They were pretty young aunts. They're about
Speaker 1: two years older than me, four years old in me.
Speaker 1: So they love to scare us. We would have fake
Speaker 1: seances and try to bring back Elvis and you know,
Speaker 1: countless celebrities and they just lived to scare us.
Speaker 3: Well what do you mean a fake seance?
Speaker 1: Well, they used it more towards like pranks for us.
Speaker 1: So they would like rig things to move when we
Speaker 1: were having our seances, and yeah, they definitely freaked us out.
Speaker 1: So annieways all of us cousins, we were about probably
Speaker 1: about ten years old. There is about like four of us,
Speaker 1: and we were at a family party and my cousin's
Speaker 1: cousin live next door. So we're just all like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's do something spooky. Let's, you know, try to contact
Speaker 1: the dead. And I was like, okay, we're all agreeing it.
Speaker 1: So we went next door. There was nobody at the house,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, let's bring back all this
Speaker 1: or you know, Superman, even though Superman, you know, was
Speaker 1: a fictional character. And they were like, no, let's bring
Speaker 1: back my great grandpa that passed away. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is gonna go horribly wrong. So
Speaker 1: I decided that I was too chicken to join in
Speaker 1: the sance portion. So they sat in a circle on
Speaker 1: the floor, and for some reason they decided that I
Speaker 1: was the only one who knew the seance words, I guess.
Speaker 1: So they sat in a circle held hands and I
Speaker 1: started just talking to basically nothing or the dead or whatever,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, from my ear, I could
Speaker 1: hear like what sounded like wheezing, sound really loud wheezing
Speaker 1: in my ear, and it was just off, and I
Speaker 1: did like it came out of nowhere. And I on
Speaker 1: the other side of my ear started hearing someone banging
Speaker 1: on the wall, like crazy banging on the wall. So
Speaker 1: I freaked out and I jumped up to the horn
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, like something weird's happening, something
Speaker 1: where it's happening. We gotta go, We gotta we gotta go.
Speaker 1: This is you know, it's I'm scared. So we go
Speaker 1: to my cousin I'll call her Erica. So I go
Speaker 1: to her and we're like trying to wake her up,
Speaker 1: trying to wake her up, shaking her, shaking or shaking her,
Speaker 1: and for what felt like a lifetime, she would not
Speaker 1: open her eyes at all. So then finally, after shaking
Speaker 1: or shaking her, she falls back onto a dresser that's
Speaker 1: behind her and opens her eyes and the first words
Speaker 1: that come out of her mouth was I saw my grandfather. Yes,
Speaker 1: And we booked it out of that house so fast
Speaker 1: it was terrifying.
Speaker 3: So what you have to say, like, did you ever
Speaker 3: ask her about it again?
Speaker 1: I didn't ask her about it again, but we had
Speaker 1: a I mentioned the story to a mutual cousin of
Speaker 1: ours who that was also his great grandpa. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of confusion in my family. Yeah, but he told
Speaker 1: me that when he was younger, he remembered when his
Speaker 1: great grandpa had passed that he you know, he remembered
Speaker 1: coughing and wheezing and everybody crying, and you know, he
Speaker 1: was just in a lot of pain. And then he
Speaker 1: says he remember his dad going into the room and
Speaker 1: just being so angry by his passing that he would
Speaker 1: he was banging the wall in like frustration. So after
Speaker 1: he told me that, I was got so many chills,
Speaker 1: and I think that I I kind of heard how
Speaker 1: he died, if that makes sense. It was just replaying
Speaker 1: that like history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was scary.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy. Have you had a seance
Speaker 3: since then? Do you still do that kind of thing?
Speaker 1: I did one more and that was the last time
Speaker 1: I ever did it. It was at that haunted Lakehouse.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. We wanted to do a stance, and you
Speaker 1: know it was a bunch of teenagers were like, they
Speaker 1: convinced me to do it. So we go out to
Speaker 1: the boat and we're all holding hands and I start
Speaker 1: talking and one of our friends was holding my hand
Speaker 1: and he opens his eyes and he's like, that was crazy.
Speaker 1: I was holding your hand and it felt like it
Speaker 1: wasn't your hand. It felt like it was like a
Speaker 1: man's hand, like your hand changed. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're trying to scare us, Like that's okay whatever. That
Speaker 1: did not happen, So then we go back to talking
Speaker 1: and then he freaks out again and he's like, I
Speaker 1: looked at your face and your your face was all
Speaker 1: like blackish and your eyes were black. And he's like,
Speaker 1: this is like the scariest thing I've ever seen. Started
Speaker 1: freaking out and all of us again, we're like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, you're making stuff up. You're trying to scare us.
Speaker 1: And then I started talking again to the spirits, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it felt like a person was
Speaker 1: pushing my chest and then I started to not be
Speaker 1: able to breathe, and after that point, I freaked out.
Speaker 1: I ran out of the boat and I never did
Speaker 1: a sance ever again.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So you were just trying to contact
Speaker 3: whoever was there? Did you know who was allegedly the
Speaker 3: spirits there?
Speaker 1: No, didn't but we're just like, well, you know, are
Speaker 1: the house is haunted, so there might be something here.
Speaker 1: There might not be, but for me it kind of
Speaker 1: I mean, I never drowned, but it kind of was
Speaker 1: that sensation.
Speaker 3: Drowning, I guess. Yeah, yes, Oh that is so scary.
Speaker 3: I've been ghosted too. That was so fun and I
Speaker 3: love doing those and I can't wait to do the
Speaker 3: next one. So thank you guys so much for listening.
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