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Speaker 3: It's spooky and I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming

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Speaker 2: There's a ghost in my house.

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Speaker 3: Hello Lily, Hello, where are you?

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Speaker 4: I am in Madison, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, the Midway.

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Speaker 4: Am I the first Wisconsin person on here?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, come to think of it.

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Speaker 5: You know, my parents live in Holland, Michigan, so right

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Speaker 5: by you were from Grand Rapids, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's true. I've spent some time in Holland. I've

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 3: So, okay, I was reading this email you sent me

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Speaker 3: you lived in, like I'm guessing it sounds like it

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Speaker 3: was the house that all the kids in the neighborhood

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Speaker 3: were like, that place is spooky, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So our house was literally like the urban legend

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Speaker 5: of the town. So our house was built in like

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Speaker 5: the eighteen hundreds by the first ever mayor of our town.

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Speaker 5: And across the street there's like this really creepy like

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Speaker 5: matching water tower. It doesn't look like a water tower.

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Speaker 5: It just looks like kind of a house thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know how to explain it.

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Speaker 3: But this is in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's in Wisconsin. And the rumor is that somebody

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Speaker 5: hung herself in there, and that if you drive by

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Speaker 5: it or walk by it at night, you can see

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Speaker 5: her in there in the water tower. Oh wow, Like

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Speaker 5: it's like a tall building with windows. But yeah, so

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Speaker 5: that was like the urban legend of the town. And

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Speaker 5: before we moved in there, our house was a bed

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Speaker 5: haunted places in Wisconsin to go to. So we would

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Speaker 5: literally have people like knocking on our door like can

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Speaker 5: we come in, like we want to see if.

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Speaker 4: We have an experience or whatever, and we were like,

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Speaker 4: come on, like, this is our house.

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Speaker 3: So were your parents Did your parents like think anything

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Speaker 3: of that or there's like whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, they really didn't believe in it at all.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, people would like come, try to come inside,

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Speaker 5: and I just had like numerous really creepy experiences there.

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Speaker 3: Well, how did it start? Like what when you move

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Speaker 5: So the first thing that I noticed was like my

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Speaker 5: And so there was that, and like random cold spots

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Speaker 4: So I experienced a lot of that.

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Speaker 5: And then one of the first things that I really

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Speaker 3: Now, that could have been a squirrel too, I know.

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Speaker 4: I was like, am I being attacked in my sleep?

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Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, this is not normal. Another thing,

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Speaker 4: My light switch was there and soft.

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Speaker 3: The switch was actually being.

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Speaker 5: And then there was another time I was just like

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Speaker 3: Though, Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: And then the biggest thing was me and my friends

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Speaker 4: For one of my other girlfriends at my house.

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Speaker 5: And so it was like middle of the night and

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Speaker 5: we were like, let's have a seance because I had

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Speaker 5: And so we like turned off all the lights and

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Speaker 4: Or like give us a sign.

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Speaker 5: And we had all these balloons blown up, and in

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Speaker 4: So we kept on going with it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why, and the TV was off, and

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So I keep thinking about the rest of your family though,

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Speaker 5: So my brother and my sister like kind of felt

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they ever had like as much

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Speaker 5: could be why my parents were totally like, you're crazy,

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Speaker 3: Have you talked to them like in hindsight like nowadays,

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Speaker 4: No, you know what.

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Speaker 5: They moved out of there, and honestly, my parents are

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Speaker 3: Got it? Yeah, So did you ever find out like

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's such an old house, so I can

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Speaker 5: only imagine like how many people probably died in there,

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Speaker 4: I would like to do more research. And you know

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Speaker 4: what else, the water tower when we were living there,

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the night it went up in

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Speaker 3: Down when you were living there, Yep.

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Speaker 5: We literally woke up in the middle of the night

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Speaker 5: Either the demon energy burned it down or somebody said

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Speaker 5: And my house was on the like it's on the

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Speaker 5: historical like homes list or whatever, like it has a

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Speaker 3: Will you sent me a picture?

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Speaker 4: Is yeah, did you see that?

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Speaker 3: It's a cool picture. Well it's also snowy in the

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Speaker 4: It was just creepy.

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Speaker 5: Like we renovated it obviously, but yeah, it was definitely

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Speaker 3: Yeah wow. Okay, so you were also telling me about

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Speaker 3: you saw somebody that was possessed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was at my high school.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't there for the actual possession, but I can

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Speaker 5: tell you the whole story because my high school that

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Speaker 4: Sorry, it was like a hundred kids, and it was

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Speaker 5: So like everybody knew everybody's business, and this was like

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Speaker 4: And I totally like, I know, I know that this happened.

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Speaker 3: Who was that.

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Speaker 2: The ghost.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish I knew it was. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But had your friend had encounters with that presence?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she said that she had seen it like multiple times.

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Speaker 3: Really, yep, what is going on in Wisconsin?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: The funny thing is, though, at her place that felt

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Speaker 4: I don't know. It could have just been.

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Speaker 3: What about the scratches, I know.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. I really don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wonder who lives there now, That's what I

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Speaker 4: I actually know who lives there now?

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Speaker 3: Do you know them?

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Speaker 4: Know them?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So my house and the house across the street,

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Speaker 3: So, Oh my god, this Yeah, I'm gonna look it up.

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Speaker 5: I think the one across the street is called the

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Speaker 3: Now is that does that place?

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Speaker 5: That place is also haunted? Yeah, yeah, that one is

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, fascinating. Hello Karen, how are you Ray?

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Speaker 3: You're in La?

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Speaker 2: I am in La. I actually got to go to

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. I ate it Casita del Campa

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Speaker 3: It was great. Oh I love that place. I miss it.

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Speaker 3: I hope that we can get back there at some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 3: That place is called the Cavern Club and it's literally

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Speaker 2: Outdoor events is the new future.

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Speaker 3: We might have to we might have to do live

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Speaker 3: shows and cemeteries. I might have to do a cemetery

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Speaker 3: tour from now on. Yes, Okay, I was looking at

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Speaker 2: So I'm a Gemini, So I'm just information overload all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are a spooky person. So let's where should

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Speaker 2: Let's start at the biggest one. The full Batty apparition

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's the thing that everyone wants to see.

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 2: So I had just I was about eight or nine,

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Speaker 2: And then one night I'm coming up the stairs, I'm

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Speaker 3: But he was there and then, But why do you

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Speaker 2: It was kind of transparent, so like he looked I

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Speaker 3: Well, I think like the spookiest thing in a house,

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Speaker 2: I know I can't do it. I like keep rooms

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Speaker 3: Wait, so did anybody else ever see this little boy?

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Speaker 1: No? One?

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Speaker 2: My parents never saw anything. To my knowledge, I have.

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Speaker 3: But you were also so young. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. I because I haven't

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Speaker 2: hear voices? She was sleeping one morning and she heard

449
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: someone whisper her name in her ear. Her name is Melissa,

450
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: so I was like Melissa, and then like through earplugs

451
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: because she always wear earplugs all through my life and

452
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: now I do too, but through her ear plugs heard

453
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: the whisper and then like woke up and was like

454
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: what and looked over and my dad was like dead asleep.

455
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know. And then I also heard a

456
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: voice once. So my room was such so there I

457
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: was like the smaller bedroom I was a small child,

458
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: And then there was a master bedroom where they had

459
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: their own master bathroom kind of on the other side

460
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: of the room, but we shared a wall, and on

461
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: that wall was my closet. And that was one night

462
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 2: I heard a voice come from my closet, but it

463
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: sounded like Grover. It was like a very like like

464
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: the kind of voice that my dad would like put

465
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: on as a funny voice like and he said karoun oh,

466
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: and I go. I heard the voice, and I it

467
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: didn't sound scary. It was like very cute and fun

468
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: So I thought it was my dad like coming through

469
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: the wall, and not coming through the wall, but like

470
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: yelling through the wall or something. So I run into

471
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: my parents room because they share a wall, and he's

472
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: in the bathroom brushing his teeth. Both of my parents

473
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: are and I was like, did you just wish me

474
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: good night? And they were like, no, we were gonna

475
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: come in in a few minutes. That oh god, that

476
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: was Yeah, that was a rough one. I also had

477
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: like so many like really vivid nightmares there, and like

478
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: it was kind of around the time. I've always been

479
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: afraid of the dark, Like I've just never been good

480
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: at sleeping all my life, from much longer before this place,

481
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: but it was around that time that we were like

482
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: making the transition from like my mom being a much

483
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: like my parents being a less active role in bedtime,

484
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,160
Speaker 2: like Okay, you can fall asleep on your own, maybe

485
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: we'll turn the light off, that kind of thing. I

486
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: was kind of a late bloomer when it comes to that.

487
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: And the first I just nightmare after nightmare after nightmare

488
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: of like ants eating my face and but it was

489
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: just a lot of very weird energy in that house consistently.

490
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh so when did you move out?

491
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: We moved out. We were only in there for about

492
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 2: a year and a half. It was like late eight

493
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: to early ten. If my memory serves, and I really

494
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: thought I was, like, so by the time we left,

495
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: that's when it kind of clicked, like, oh, it's haunted.

496
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: And I was like kind of excited about it at

497
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: that point because it was very clearly like pretty benign,

498
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: and I was really I really wanted it to follow

499
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: us into our next.

500
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: Place, but really it didn't.

501
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably for the best.

502
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: So then, what what has happened to you? So you

503
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: contacted a friend that had passed.

504
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I am a witch. I've been practicing

505
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: since I was about thirteen ish and part of the

506
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: reason I like started that early was because I had

507
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: this friend. And it's one of those things where it's

508
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: like in retrospect, I had this friend who was like

509
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: an older man, which is like, you know, very it

510
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: could be weird. It wasn't weird, but I feel like

511
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: I always have to tell people like, don't worry, it

512
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: wasn't weird. But he was a friend of my mom's

513
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: and he would babysit me, and he was like really

514
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: into He was into like dark shit. He was like

515
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: a like adult goth, but not in like appearance, just

516
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: like he was really into Dia de La Smertos, and

517
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: he was really into like witchcraft and into like Edward

518
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: Gory and HP Lovecraft and a lot of yeah, a

519
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: lot of dark stuff. He would take me to like museums.

520
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: There's a museum in New Orleans or I don't know

521
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: if it's still around called like Necromantic Museum with like

522
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: this goth art. When I was like ten, it was

523
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: it was great art. I was already into that stuff

524
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: and he really showed me the way. And so, but

525
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: he was like in his sixties definitely when I met him,

526
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: and we were you know, he was in my life

527
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: for like a good five or so years. And then

528
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen, I went away to camp and

529
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: he died, but my parents didn't tell me until I

530
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: got back, so I didn't like have I didn't go

531
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 2: to his funeral. I didn't have a chance to say

532
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: goodbye at all. And that was that summer. And so

533
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: when the first like sourin Halloween time when the veils

534
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: are thin came around, I decided to like do my

535
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: first like really legit witchy ritual, and I like you know,

536
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: tried to contact him, and I don't really remember the

537
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: specifics of like the actual ritual, but part of it

538
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: was kind of opening the way, making it very clear

539
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: that I was like welcoming this very specific spirit. And

540
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: I'd made an altar and I still do like a

541
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: uh so an altar every year with all the people

542
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: who've passed in recent years. So I had like a

543
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: picture of him and stuff, and I was like meditating

544
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: at the wall and it was like a zipper unzipped

545
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: almost where like or like a like a portal of

546
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: light that was kind of ovular just opened up in

547
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: front of me. And of course this is like, you know,

548
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing this with my physical eyes, but at

549
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: the same time, it was very clearly focused on one

550
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: part of the wall, and it was again, yeah, it's

551
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: like it's not there. Weren't like literal words or anything

552
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: like that, but I was immediately like immediately in tears.

553
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: Is so like deeply knowing that Oh's name was Terry,

554
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: so deeply knowing that it was Terry coming through, and

555
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: like he told me that it was okay, and that

556
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: because I felt really guilty for even though it wasn't

557
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: up to me that I didn't get to say by

558
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: I still felt like a guilt for not being there

559
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: and it was he was my first he was the

560
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: first person who died. You know, there's always like that

561
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: first close person to die in your life, and he

562
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: was that for me other than like my cat and

563
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: my first like mentor. And it was yeah, very immediately,

564
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: like totally floored by the feeling of him kind of

565
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: encompassing me and telling me it was okay and that

566
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: he's fine. And then kind of after a certain amount

567
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: of time I don't know, maybe ten minutes, but felt

568
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: like a really long time, the portal or whatever closed,

569
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: and I felt just like really really at peace with

570
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: it and have not necessarily felt the need to mourn

571
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: him since, Like I talk about him whenever that part

572
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: of my life comes up, and he's still very important

573
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: to me, but like it really did kind of like

574
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: seal the process.

575
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Wow.

576
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: And I've tried, you know, I've lost a ton of

577
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: people since then, and like I've tried basically every year

578
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: to kind of replicate that with other people, and it

579
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: just hasn't really happened. And so that was like a

580
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: really special clearly like you know, however it works. He

581
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: was on the other side also willing to talk to

582
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: me back kind of thing.

583
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, but yeah, and it's.

584
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Still it's and again it's like I forget that happened,

585
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: and I get down on myself for like, oh, I

586
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: can't make this thing work how I want it to work.

587
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, well, that happened, so clearly something

588
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: is you know, possible, and you know that is so cool.

589
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 6: So when you lived in New Orleans, m M, I

590
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: feel like there's a lot of like witchcraft down there, right,

591
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: And I, oh, yeah, there's obviously like lots of voodoo.

592
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: I mean, is that still pretty big down there?

593
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's actually, well, unsurprisingly, it's made a resurgence

594
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: in recent years as like witchcraft becomes kind of trendy. Yeah,

595
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: which is not to say that like trendy shops opened up,

596
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: but just that like, you know, there's more money in

597
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: it now, so shops are able to stay open more.

598
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: There were like there was one place that was like

599
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: it was always a witchy shop, but it changed names

600
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: and owners like three times while I was down there,

601
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: and it's been the same thing since. And there's there's

602
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: there's a number of them that are like, yeah, there's

603
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: definitely just a power I like to I find the

604
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: dirt in New Orleans very special to me. Like the

605
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: little Earth is just like because I was there during

606
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: Katrina and it still like smells like Katrina the dirt

607
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: there at least last time I went, which was a

608
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And so it's just like the

609
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: physical earth there holds so much history and like pain

610
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: and also like you know, ecstasy, and it's a really

611
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: energetically loaded town and just like you know, everything is

612
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: haunted also, Yeah, walking through the French Quarter, it's just

613
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: like every building is haunted.

614
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I hear. I definitely need to explore

615
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 3: it more on my own. I was. I was reading

616
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: also that you were talking about how your mom's friend

617
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: used to, yeah, do a tour there.

618
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, she she used to own a company. She might

619
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: it might still be around because she sold it, but

620
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. But it was called New

621
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: Orleans Spirit Tours, and there are a bunch of those companies.

622
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: I think Haunted History Tour has been around for like

623
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: twenty years or something. Too much information. So she took

624
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: us on a tour kind of as a treat because

625
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: she was our friend and we had just moved there.

626
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: This was still when we were in the Haunted duplex,

627
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: and I was about nine or ten, so it was

628
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: truly like way too young to take me to a

629
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: supposedly real haunted stories tour. But I was also like

630
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: watching Twilight Zone when I was three with my dad,

631
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: so you know, I got introduced to it early and

632
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: I was already into it and I probably begged to come.

633
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: So maybe it wasn't even up to them. But we

634
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 2: went on the tour and it still like almost every

635
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: story is still just like deeply, deeply embedded in my

636
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: head because it was such a visceral. If you ever

637
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: get a chance to go on a real haunted tour

638
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: really anywhere, but my experiences in New Orleans, it's so

639
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: different to be like standing in front of or even

640
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: inside of the place that they're telling you the story

641
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: of the haunting or how it became haunted. Oh it's powerful.

642
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoyed them. I've been on. I've been on

643
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: quite a few. I went on one that was really

644
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: cool in San Diego a couple of months back, and

645
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: they actually took us into a house that is some

646
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: old historic I can't even remember what the haunted house

647
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 3: was at this point. Oh, and we went to a hotel.

648
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool.

649
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

650
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: Most of the other ones I had been to were

651
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: just sort of you stand outside of it and they

652
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: tell you a story.

653
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: But I thought that to be inside is really cool.

654
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: I went to the Myrtle Plantation once in Saint Francisville.

655
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: Oh that's a famous haunted place.

656
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like that was I talked about in

657
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: my email how I used to like print out pages

658
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: and pages of like websites about haunted stuff and take

659
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: to school to be I was like the creepy girl

660
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: in class who would like bring it the scary stories

661
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: and myrtle plantation and was one of my like favorite topics.

662
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: And so I finally got to visit it. I don't

663
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: know when I was like fifteen or sixteen, and you know,

664
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: I didn't really have any experiences except the lights kept flickering,

665
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, I was a teenager,

666
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: and I was like, I bet that's just like something

667
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: they like do for the tourists. I can't believe I'm

668
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: not having any like personal experiences. And then a couple

669
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: of years later, my friend was like, well, we could

670
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: go stay there, like they rent the rooms out. How

671
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: about we go stay there for your birthday, and immediately

672
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't think so that sounds

673
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: maybe a step too far.

674
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what Bridget Marquard. She's all into and

675
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: she has stayed there before.

676
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh I that sounds great. I love her podcast.

677
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: I want to hear about this person that you lived

678
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: with in Portland.

679
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, So I lived in the really sweet queer

680
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: house in Portland for about three years. And when we

681
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: were first moving in, or I was moving in, and

682
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: another person was moving in, this person Nico, And there

683
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: was always something a little off about Nico. They were

684
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: kind of you know, they weren't a great housemate. That's fine,

685
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: they ended up moving out shortly after. But they were

686
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: just like weird energy all around, just very disruptive, kind

687
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: of like bending the room around them at all times,

688
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 2: those kinds of like I would even dare say, like

689
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: like energy vampire kind of vibes. But they one of

690
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: the things that was notable was that they were like

691
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: convinced that there was this spirit haunting them, and they

692
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: kept having experiences in the house, except none of us

693
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: were having them either or experiencing them. There was one

694
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: time where the power was out, which happened all the time,

695
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: and this entity like like this like human shaped shadow

696
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: came through their window and then stood over them and

697
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 2: then said something to them. I don't remember what it said,

698
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: but it was not bad, but like vaguely unsettling, and

699
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: then just like stood over them for like ten minutes

700
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: and then like about faced and floated out of the window.

701
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: And they were like, did anything else happen to you?

702
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: And we were like, no, that's wild. And then one

703
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: in particular time, they came home from work and they

704
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: worked with kids. They were like a teaching aid or something,

705
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: and they were at school and this little girl they

706
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: were aiding I don't know, and the little girl was

707
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: drawing and she like puts down her stuff and looks

708
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: at Nico and then kind of just passed Nico. And

709
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Nico's like, what's wrong? Could I help? And the girl

710
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 2: was like, well, what's that girl behind you doing? And

711
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: he goes looks around and there's no one behind them,

712
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: and they're like sitting on a some steps and they're like,

713
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: there's what are you talking about? What girl? And the

714
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: little girl keeps pointing and she says, why is she

715
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: walking like that? She's upside down? And oh my god,

716
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: Nico was telling this and like to us in the

717
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: kitchen in like the afternoon, and just like the whole

718
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: room went like cold. It was so scary. I just

719
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: got goosebumpsh and that that's like that's the that's the nightmare. Shit,

720
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: that's the like, that's one of the reasons why I'm like,

721
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: maybe I don't want kids.

722
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh I could not deal with anything of that kind.

723
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: I know.

724
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: And then just imagining what my parents thought, like eight

725
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: years old, coming in, like did you just tell me

726
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: good night? Someone just told me good night from my closet?

727
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: Right?

728
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't want to be an adult because

729
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one that has to

730
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: like look under the bed. No, that would be as

731
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: a parent. I'd be like, uh, bitch, you look under

732
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: the bed. I'm hiding.

733
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: I just became able to deal with spiders. I cannot

734
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: deal with ghosts yet.

735
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 3: See error. Hello, Hi, where are you?

736
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: I am in Los Angeles?

737
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: No way?

738
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.

739
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: Well where are you from?

740
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: Originally I'm actually from Oxnard, California.

741
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: Oh, well, you know I've been there.

742
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: I know I have not taught your show, unfortunately, but someday, Oh.

743
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hopefully someday one of these days. I was

744
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: looking at the email you sent me, and you you

745
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: were telling me you have seen full body apparitions. You've

746
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: heard footsteps, you've heard voices, you've seen things move. What

747
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: is going on that?

748
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Yes, my friends say that I am haunted.

749
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 3: Really.

750
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh yes, They're like, how do so many things happen

751
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: to one person? It's ridiculous. And I go when I

752
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: look for stuff like this, so that makes me even

753
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 1: more crazy, I guess.

754
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to hear all of it.

755
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So as for the full body apparition, I've only

756
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: seen one in my life. And I remember when I

757
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: was about, oh, I don't know, like nine or about

758
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: nine Vanish. We were driving in the car at about

759
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning to get snacks for a sleepover.

760
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: And I remember seeing this woman in a purple cloak

761
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: and she had like curly hair and gorgeous beyond belief,

762
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and she seemed to be like floating down the street.

763
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: That was me, Oh, I remember, probably, And.

764
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: It said chills down my spine, chills. I was like,

765
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: this woman walking in Oxnard in the middle of the

766
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: night just did not go and I was the only

767
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: one who saw her, and yeah, it was terrifying.

768
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: So what you were like, did you guys just see

769
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: that lady? And they're like no, I was.

770
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: I didn't even tell anyone at that time. It wasn't

771
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: until later on that I talked to people, But my

772
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: cousins and everyone else in the car didn't even notice her.

773
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean I could see her clearly in my mind today.

774
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: It's that was like my first really big experience.

775
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 3: I feel like there's something going on in Oxnard.

776
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely.

777
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: I have talked to so many people that have told

778
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: me demon stories, ghost stories. It's like just this farm land.

779
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not far from water. I think sometimes

780
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: that affects this kind of act activity. I don't know

781
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: what is up there.

782
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: And then it's also a big, you know, Latino community,

783
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: so you know, religious everything and so but it's it's great.

784
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I loved, uh love living in Oxford.

785
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: So what where have you heard footsteps?

786
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: So?

787
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

788
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: When I like teenage years I we went to this

789
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: it's like a bass lake near Yosemite area, and we

790
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: vacation there and one of the houses we stayed in

791
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: was it so haunted. I would hear footsteps upstairs, and

792
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: my uncle said he came into the room and all

793
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: of the drawers and the screen door everything was just

794
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: open and he was like, I did not open any

795
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: of that. So it was it was terrifying, it was

796
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: it was a fun time.

797
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

798
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Wait.

799
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: So, okay, you stayed at or you went to Glenn's

800
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 3: Tavern in Santa Paula. Is that the same place?

801
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a different place. Okay, I highly

802
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: recommend you go there if you're looking for a truly

803
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: scary experience. That place so many people who have had experiences.

804
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: So the the story goes is it used to be

805
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: a brothel back in the day, and like cowboys and

806
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: gambling and all that happened there. And on the third floor,

807
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, supposedly there was a sex worker who was

808
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: beheaded in the closet. So it's a it has some

809
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: pretty pretty gruesome history there. So that's usually where you

810
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: see the most activity.

811
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: So has anything happened to you there?

812
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

813
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, definitely.

814
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: So when I was about nineteen years old, a group

815
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: of my friends, probably about six or seven of us,

816
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: decided to spend the night in that room, and they

817
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: had previously been there and you know, had a bunch

818
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: of experiences. So I was like, you know what, I

819
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: see ghosts, I feel ghosts, So let's let's just go.

820
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Let's check out. And so we went and I was determined.

821
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I was in that closet for hours trying to have

822
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: something happen, and nothing was happening. Pretty quiet night, So

823
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: I decided, not very smart, but I decided to actually

824
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: start cursing at her, basically every bad word you can

825
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: possibly thing to call someone. I just started going off

826
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: on this poor ghost, and in about like I want

827
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: to say, like within the hour, I was sitting in

828
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: the closet with two other people and they had he

829
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: has a bathroom, and you're not pretty brave, but to

830
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: be alone in a haunted closet by myself who kind

831
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: of scared me. So I got out of the closet

832
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: and I went to the bathroom and at that point

833
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: I started to feel burning on my chest and on

834
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: my back, and it was painful burning. So I went

835
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: over to a friend and I was like, is there

836
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: something on my back or something? You know, I don't know.

837
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm in a lot of pain. And they looked in

838
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: my back and there were three scratch marks on the

839
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: front and on the back, and I have pictures of

840
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: that incident of the scratches.

841
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, do you think that it was I

842
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: mean a lot of times people think that that's a demon.

843
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 3: Is that what you were thinking?

844
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think that. I thought that she was just

845
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: getting me back for me carylic nails exactly exactly. She's like, no,

846
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to get your girl. You're being mean to me.

847
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Hit my revenge definitely. So yeah, so I got back

848
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: in that closet. I apologized to her. After that, nothing happened,

849
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: so I think she forgave me.

850
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: She's like, we're good.

851
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so you know I will scratch you exactly.

852
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: So tell me about having a seance definitely.

853
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: When I so growing up, I lived with my aunts

854
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: who were relative. They were pretty young aunts. They're about

855
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: two years older than me, four years old in me.

856
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: So they love to scare us. We would have fake

857
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: seances and try to bring back Elvis and you know,

858
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: countless celebrities and they just lived to scare us.

859
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: Well what do you mean a fake seance?

860
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Well, they used it more towards like pranks for us.

861
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: So they would like rig things to move when we

862
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: were having our seances, and yeah, they definitely freaked us out.

863
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: So annieways all of us cousins, we were about probably

864
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: about ten years old. There is about like four of us,

865
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: and we were at a family party and my cousin's

866
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: cousin live next door. So we're just all like, oh,

867
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: let's do something spooky. Let's, you know, try to contact

868
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: the dead. And I was like, okay, we're all agreeing it.

869
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: So we went next door. There was nobody at the house,

870
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, let's bring back all this

871
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: or you know, Superman, even though Superman, you know, was

872
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: a fictional character. And they were like, no, let's bring

873
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: back my great grandpa that passed away. And I was like,

874
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is gonna go horribly wrong. So

875
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: I decided that I was too chicken to join in

876
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: the sance portion. So they sat in a circle on

877
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: the floor, and for some reason they decided that I

878
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: was the only one who knew the seance words, I guess.

879
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: So they sat in a circle held hands and I

880
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: started just talking to basically nothing or the dead or whatever,

881
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, from my ear, I could

882
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: hear like what sounded like wheezing, sound really loud wheezing

883
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: in my ear, and it was just off, and I

884
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: did like it came out of nowhere. And I on

885
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: the other side of my ear started hearing someone banging

886
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: on the wall, like crazy banging on the wall. So

887
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: I freaked out and I jumped up to the horn

888
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, like something weird's happening, something

889
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: where it's happening. We gotta go, We gotta we gotta go.

890
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: This is you know, it's I'm scared. So we go

891
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: to my cousin I'll call her Erica. So I go

892
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: to her and we're like trying to wake her up,

893
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: trying to wake her up, shaking her, shaking or shaking her,

894
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: and for what felt like a lifetime, she would not

895
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: open her eyes at all. So then finally, after shaking

896
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: or shaking her, she falls back onto a dresser that's

897
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: behind her and opens her eyes and the first words

898
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: that come out of her mouth was I saw my grandfather. Yes,

899
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: And we booked it out of that house so fast

900
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: it was terrifying.

901
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 3: So what you have to say, like, did you ever

902
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 3: ask her about it again?

903
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: I didn't ask her about it again, but we had

904
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: a I mentioned the story to a mutual cousin of

905
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: ours who that was also his great grandpa. There's a

906
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: lot of confusion in my family. Yeah, but he told

907
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: me that when he was younger, he remembered when his

908
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: great grandpa had passed that he you know, he remembered

909
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: coughing and wheezing and everybody crying, and you know, he

910
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: was just in a lot of pain. And then he

911
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: says he remember his dad going into the room and

912
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: just being so angry by his passing that he would

913
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: he was banging the wall in like frustration. So after

914
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: he told me that, I was got so many chills,

915
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: and I think that I I kind of heard how

916
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: he died, if that makes sense. It was just replaying

917
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: that like history.

918
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was scary.

919
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy. Have you had a seance

920
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: since then? Do you still do that kind of thing?

921
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: I did one more and that was the last time

922
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: I ever did it. It was at that haunted Lakehouse.

923
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. We wanted to do a stance, and you

924
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: know it was a bunch of teenagers were like, they

925
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: convinced me to do it. So we go out to

926
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: the boat and we're all holding hands and I start

927
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: talking and one of our friends was holding my hand

928
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: and he opens his eyes and he's like, that was crazy.

929
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: I was holding your hand and it felt like it

930
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: wasn't your hand. It felt like it was like a

931
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: man's hand, like your hand changed. And I was like, okay,

932
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: you're trying to scare us, Like that's okay whatever. That

933
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: did not happen, So then we go back to talking

934
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and then he freaks out again and he's like, I

935
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: looked at your face and your your face was all

936
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: like blackish and your eyes were black. And he's like,

937
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: this is like the scariest thing I've ever seen. Started

938
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: freaking out and all of us again, we're like, no,

939
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're making stuff up. You're trying to scare us.

940
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: And then I started talking again to the spirits, and

941
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it felt like a person was

942
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: pushing my chest and then I started to not be

943
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: able to breathe, and after that point, I freaked out.

944
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: I ran out of the boat and I never did

945
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: a sance ever again.

946
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So you were just trying to contact

947
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: whoever was there? Did you know who was allegedly the

948
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 3: spirits there?

949
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: No, didn't but we're just like, well, you know, are

950
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: the house is haunted, so there might be something here.

951
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: There might not be, but for me it kind of

952
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I never drowned, but it kind of was

953
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: that sensation.

954
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 3: Drowning, I guess. Yeah, yes, Oh that is so scary.

955
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: I've been ghosted too. That was so fun and I

956
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: love doing those and I can't wait to do the

957
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: next one. So thank you guys so much for listening.

958
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: As always, please join the Facebook group called Ghosted by

959
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,160
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960
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: I am on Cameo Rose Dress Falas. Yeah. I love

961
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: you guys, both living and dead. But if I didn't

962
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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964
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