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<v Speaker 1>Oh we know it's parenting. Is here again? Here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Peter McNerney, I'm Beth Newell. Like I said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here again. We're here again. What do you think it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be somebody else? What did you think you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting into? What do you think You hear that

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<v Speaker 1>awesome Mates of State theme song kick in and it'd

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly be two different people without kids? Think again, Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>I always I forget that that's our music, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having a completely different podcast experience to our listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>are hearing the words that I'm saying. Yeah, that's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny because I edit this so I hear that song

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<v Speaker 1>every single week, literally never. If you've wondered where does

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<v Speaker 1>that awesome theme song come from, it's made of State

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<v Speaker 1>Mates of State, which I said this on the podcast before,

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<v Speaker 1>But we're we're Mates of States fans back from our

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<v Speaker 1>college days. We always have been. And when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in college or just out of college, the female half

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<v Speaker 1>of Mats of State, I think, what's her name, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, Carrie Wrong, I don't know. Um. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a blog about like touring around with their kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, actually found it really inspirational to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a creative person can have a career and somehow

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<v Speaker 1>make it work with children. They're married, they have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and they still do their thing. Yeah, they still do

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<v Speaker 1>their thing and they let us use their themes. So

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<v Speaker 1>they let us se themes. The story is incredible because

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<v Speaker 1>we were sending you know, the folks over at the network.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, hey, what do you want your theme song

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Well, write it for you and Ago, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a bunch of music styles that we like, and

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<v Speaker 1>we sound up a bunch of mates State and good

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<v Speaker 1>old Chuck Bryant as tonal examples. Yeah, we said, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the sound we're looking for. Everyone's favorite podcast host, Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Bryant from Selfishnell movie Crush just said, Oh, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>ask them. Of course he knows them. Of course we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, and they they let us use it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the story of the theme song. Life is like

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<v Speaker 1>a box of chocolates. You know what sometimes did you

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<v Speaker 1>ask you'll get the chocolate? Well, it's called manifesting folks. Folks. Folks. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we started, we started using folks, and now we have

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<v Speaker 1>to use it for the rest of this podcast. Alright, folks, alright, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>what happened in this weekend? Are week in parenting? What

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<v Speaker 1>happened in this week? So we're finally back in our home.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that last week. No, yes, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah we recorded here last week. Okay, but now we're

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<v Speaker 1>like settled, and the bathroom is so nice. The bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>is great. The lovely woman who UM comes twice a

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<v Speaker 1>month to clean UM was very impressed with the bathroom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she liked it. When she Yeah, she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, she's so happy to clean a

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom that doesn't have a rotting window sill. She's so

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have a bathroom that's clean. Uble She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to clean this duct taped tile? Great? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yes. So we didn't mention this so long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>This we knew that this bathroom. But there was a

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<v Speaker 1>little soap dish in the tile wall of the shower

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<v Speaker 1>and one day you put your foot on it to

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<v Speaker 1>shave your legs, which is a reasonable thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing just ripped out of the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the solution was white du duct tape to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the hole for three years and literally really all

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<v Speaker 1>of the naked baby photos of our children over the

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<v Speaker 1>past five years have been with a mildowy tile behind

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<v Speaker 1>them and the duct tape tile. The duct tape was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised lasted a surprisingly long time without getting gross. I

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<v Speaker 1>replaced it, probably replaced it twice, yeah again instead of

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<v Speaker 1>getting it fixed. If I have one piece of advice

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<v Speaker 1>for people for being poor, it's find the money for

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<v Speaker 1>a duck team. Um. Yeah. Now the wooden window sill

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<v Speaker 1>inside the shower that just was in the corner of

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<v Speaker 1>the of this piece of wood, it was mostly as

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<v Speaker 1>soft as a blanket. This would because it was completely

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<v Speaker 1>rotted away and causing a leaf. Because a blanket what

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<v Speaker 1>a weird anoug is a blanket not soft. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we've covered the state of our bathroom before, so

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<v Speaker 1>we can move. Do you want to hear how I

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<v Speaker 1>got to the logic about blanket because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's too soft, and then I was like a memory foam,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like stop too weirdly, Okay, So then

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<v Speaker 1>I said blanket. We so that happened. Um. Our Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>presents are mostly packed away, although of course the box

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<v Speaker 1>we shipped back some of our presents from Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>of like five boxes. The one that got lost was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that included very expensive gift cards. Um can

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what else we lost in there. We'll just

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<v Speaker 1>never remember, at least the book some pantowels fancy soap.

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<v Speaker 1>But so my dad went to the post office where

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<v Speaker 1>from which I mailed the boxes, because he has my

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<v Speaker 1>same name, and I knew exactly what time I sent them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had of it from my credit card and

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<v Speaker 1>the other boxes, and I was like, well, they can

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<v Speaker 1>find the tracking number because they know exactly when we

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<v Speaker 1>send it. Nope, they don't do that. No, of course

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<v Speaker 1>they don't. It's the United States Postal Service. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>they give you the long receipt and they circle the

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<v Speaker 1>thing and they say, this is your tracking number. This

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<v Speaker 1>is now in your hands. But the thing that's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>is the that data exists very easily in their system.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you mean the United States Postal Service has not

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<v Speaker 1>hired Harvard's top data collectors to connect their systems. And

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<v Speaker 1>you want bigger government? Is this what you want? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do want bigger, want more post That made me

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<v Speaker 1>sound a lot more Republican than let's not get on

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<v Speaker 1>this bath. So our kids had second Christmas. Your parents

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<v Speaker 1>came down this weekend. My parents came down and um,

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<v Speaker 1>they had some breaks is used in the last are

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<v Speaker 1>They had a drop in the shop. Luckily it was

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<v Speaker 1>not a huge deal. They got taken care of. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have a lot more presence. This is what's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stressing me out right now, is like as

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<v Speaker 1>a virgo who's always scanning my surroundings for flaws, the

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<v Speaker 1>we have too much stuff again, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of stuff. And I know it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>to swear through all the toys is just such an

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<v Speaker 1>annoying chore. I secretly throw things away. I just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't tell anyone. I do that too, But like

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<v Speaker 1>it needs an overhaul. It's we're a way, We're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's overdue. It's just there's just so much stuff. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what's frustrating, like for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think our family is particularly bad about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that there's so many people who give you stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I think our generation is like less likely

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<v Speaker 1>to own a home, like a physical home, and like

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<v Speaker 1>don't have as much space and don't have like like

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<v Speaker 1>there are is a little more conscious of the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>and our families still give us presents and you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be like, hey, stop giving us things like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to it's it's all still very very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice, love it, but it's just as a sum total,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so much stuff. The next day you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no more cabinets. I mean someday, I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have like a playroom, but it still feels like more

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<v Speaker 1>stuff than children can enjoy. Oh, the entire blanket is

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<v Speaker 1>falling off the wall. Wow, did you see that happening? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>after you started screaming about it, I could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see it dropping if you're just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a little echoly or around Beth. Because the incredible sound

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<v Speaker 1>installation system I have, which is literally hanging blankets all

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<v Speaker 1>around us, we sound like a mess. What we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing really well, everything we're good. Um, literally have a

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<v Speaker 1>new bathroom that we've mentioned nine million times. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we my parents came. Oh so then on Sunday, my

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<v Speaker 1>parents had to hang out because their car was being

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<v Speaker 1>repaired because just classic family thing, their brakes started to fail.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a classic family things. It's not classic my

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<v Speaker 1>family thing that on the one day they're coming here,

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<v Speaker 1>their brakes would stop working on their cars, so they like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to get their car fixed, and so they're

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<v Speaker 1>barring our car. And then I took the kids after

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<v Speaker 1>you left on Sunday to go to work. I took

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to their hotel nearby, which has an indoor

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<v Speaker 1>pool in it, which we know about because your parents

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<v Speaker 1>stayed there and we went to that and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but very warm. It is in that scenario, in like

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<v Speaker 1>an indoor hotel pool that clearly like everyone is coming by,

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<v Speaker 1>like just USA pool. I feel like I want there

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<v Speaker 1>to be way too much chlorine. I mean that is

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<v Speaker 1>that's their safety net, just kill everything. Yeah. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>usually like a big germophobe, but in that scenario, let's

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<v Speaker 1>or not either. But it is. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>pool ice woman every day. It's like a one time

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<v Speaker 1>visit to like the most used pool in town. I

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<v Speaker 1>save that pool for a long long time and it

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<v Speaker 1>really dried me out. Yeah that's part of the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>But we took them to the pool um, which they love.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course when we got there, the floor was wet.

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<v Speaker 1>There's kids in the pool and Brin just like walking

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<v Speaker 1>a little too fast, his heel just like skidded. He

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<v Speaker 1>fell backwards, slammed his head into the ground and was crying,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, I mean his butt hit first,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, I don't think he has like

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<v Speaker 1>a cushion, but it's like not something you ever want

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<v Speaker 1>to see happen to your kid's head. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>calmed down and he seemed fine, and we played in

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<v Speaker 1>the pool for a while, and then we're getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of the pool and then Maven just standing there like

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<v Speaker 1>barely even walking. She does the same thing and slams

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<v Speaker 1>like the side of her head into the ground, what

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<v Speaker 1>like just really hard like slams, and it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And then she's like crying and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I've talked about this in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>how when we're with our families, they're not like as

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<v Speaker 1>tuned into kids needs as we are. So while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to comfort throw me into that, well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think people who don't spend every single day of their

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<v Speaker 1>life with our children are not as aware of their

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<v Speaker 1>quirks and videosyncrasies. So that's happening. And I'm looking over

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<v Speaker 1>at Bryan, who like, because when this happened with Brint earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe is just like stumbling around, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you please just sit down like for once, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just like they're both idiots. And so then well,

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<v Speaker 1>in scenarios like this where I'm like, oh, great, people's

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<v Speaker 1>lives are in danger. Um, so then I'm conforting maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>And while this is happening, Brin is like walking around

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like trying to comfort maybe, and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was like giving me a play by play

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<v Speaker 1>of how she felt, and I was just like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you watch him? Like he's just like wandering like and

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<v Speaker 1>it was fine, he didn't fall, but I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought this story was going towards a third fault. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a third fault, but I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the scenarios that I find very frustrating in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of just like you stupid kids, like just stop moving

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<v Speaker 1>for one second. It feels like in a video game,

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<v Speaker 1>we walk into like a field of land mines and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, hey, you guys, there's this thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're just like blonder, like they're just it's like

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<v Speaker 1>giving a kid a computer with a game of mind

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<v Speaker 1>Sweeper open and just saying, hey, guess where the minds are.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to explain the word. They just

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<v Speaker 1>start clicking everywhere. It's like buying ice cream when my

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<v Speaker 1>husband is home and expecting him not to devour it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm not like, well that's you, that's on you. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you've told me as the victim. It's my pahl. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, don't bring ice cream into this house because

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to feel bad for different reasons. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't have any control. You're right, No, one

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions. I have

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<v Speaker 1>an ice cream addiction and you don't respect that. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's it's certainly back to not having enough

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<v Speaker 1>space for anything. It's circling back. Yeah. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>parents sent me that big tub of all my stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like from high school and stuff, and they're like, time

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<v Speaker 1>for you to take this. We can't store it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean like ten years ago? No, this was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that we had less space and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a humongous house with a giant basement with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of space. I was like, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to complain but I think they can hold onto it

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<v Speaker 1>until I have space. But I still don't have space.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll never have enough space for them parents. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>just mean boomers belongings. Belongings. You mean our belongings that

0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we're expecting our our boomers to hold on to us forever. No,

0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not expecting anything to be held onto um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have neither one of us do I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of stuff from No, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff, but it's not like from our childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nostalgic for nostalgia. Nostalgia, i'd I'm nostalgic for things

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<v Speaker 1>that could be nostalgic that I don't have anymore. What

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Actually, don't ask me to defend what

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<v Speaker 1>I just said. I have no idea. Forget it. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>What's um um? Oh boy, oh boy, it's okay. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's We finally have a decade with an identity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Wait, I forgot to actually

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, like the best story of the week. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not look ahead to the year quite yet. Then

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead. I'm sure you had something very important to say.

0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not um, but I'm trying to find I was

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<v Speaker 1>tweeting this that this week, but um, trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>the streets. The So Bryn had a played it yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and his friend, one of his close friends, was over

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, you know, just saying weird stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I think, here's what I think happened. Brynn

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<v Speaker 1>got a new book with extinct animals, and in one

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<v Speaker 1>part there's like this weird marsupial tiger thing, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>he I think maybe they were looking at that with

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<v Speaker 1>like the baby's coming out of it, and one with

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<v Speaker 1>the weird backward facing butt pouch. Yeah, that's the craziest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever seen, by the way. So Bryn's friend

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<v Speaker 1>comes into the bedroom where I am and he walks

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<v Speaker 1>in and he goes, when you were pregnant with Bryn,

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<v Speaker 1>did he come out your butt? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>uh no. And then and then Bryn came in there like,

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<v Speaker 1>well did you come out your but belly? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like he came out of my vagina? And like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like I have to be honest about this, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they said like so many insane things over

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the play date. So I overheard Brent's

0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.760
<v Speaker 1>friend talking to him and he goes, do you guys

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:24.840
<v Speaker 1>celebrate New Year's And Brent said, yeah, we do. Oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>no we don't. And then and then at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>Brinna was playing with him with his new X Men

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<v Speaker 1>toys and he said he kept he keeps insisting that

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<v Speaker 1>all the X Men are bad guys. So yeah, brand does.

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<v Speaker 1>And his logic for this I think is interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like explains a lot of things culturally.

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Brin is like, all the X Men are bad guys

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone's mad at them. And he's right that in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of the show, everyone is prejudiced against X Men.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand failure of the definition of bad guy

0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:09.280
<v Speaker 1>or or he's his empathy is off both. I think

0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:10.760
<v Speaker 1>he's just picking up on the fact that he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>in this world, no one likes X Well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it also like bad guy doesn't necessarily mean what it means.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other thing he said is that he said

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<v Speaker 1>Professor X doesn't have any powers. Okay, that's that's that

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<v Speaker 1>is very wrong, right, And then it made me wonder

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.000
<v Speaker 1>if you watched like an episode where he's like losing

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<v Speaker 1>his powers or something. I don't know. Um, it is

0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.240
<v Speaker 1>a far more abstract concept to be like telepathic doesn't

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.000
<v Speaker 1>have any powers for a five year old Ian Wolverine

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is clear the band's got claws. So then we have

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<v Speaker 1>this new bathroom obviously, and Brian was showing his friend

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom and he showed him the new lock

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<v Speaker 1>on the door and he goes, there's a lock here

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<v Speaker 1>in case you need privacy. And his friend pulled down

0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>his pants and his underwear and said, yeah, I do

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<v Speaker 1>need privacy, and then he closed the door. Does it

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<v Speaker 1>look like I need privacy? Never gets old to me

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that are all of these kids are like I need

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<v Speaker 1>some privacy and then can you come wipe my butt? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is obsessed where she has to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom and she goes, Daddy, I have to go

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 1>potty and I don't need help, and I need privacy

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and I need you to when I'm done, but I

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.840
<v Speaker 1>want to flush the toilet. Yeah. She does a long

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<v Speaker 1>monologue every time she has to and I just go.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes she says I do need help and I don't

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.280
<v Speaker 1>need privacy, and she just like mixing. She's like, what

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.639
<v Speaker 1>do I feel like? Yeah? But either way she feels

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<v Speaker 1>like she has to give us a long update on

0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the status of going potty. I have one more important

0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.000
<v Speaker 1>thing to say before we have in this segment, which

0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>is last last week. I did have one last thing,

0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 1>which is his friend later said Donald Trump is a

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<v Speaker 1>mean president. We don't know if he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>fired or not. I thought that was really smart. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been avoiding the topic with brand altogether. I know our

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.360
<v Speaker 1>kids don't really understand it. Our kids don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>the president. I feel with Brandon would be cannan worms

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>because he will start saying much more. That's exactly why.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's going to start saying things as if he

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<v Speaker 1>is the authority on it. I'm like, that's the problem

0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.000
<v Speaker 1>with our country. And then he gets create he has

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.639
<v Speaker 1>creative license with it like you, and all of a

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 1>sudden he's saying things like a man can't marry a man.

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>You really made it sound like that's something I say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something our son has said. Now it's time

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>for did you know this Holy crap? We got big news.

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:07.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a new segment. Crap. This segment is called holy crap. Okay,

0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>we we feel bad because we're very honest on this podcast.

0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've been hiding something. There's really been

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<v Speaker 1>a very big topic that we have not been talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because we didn't want to tell our friends just

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.399
<v Speaker 1>because we didn't know what was happening. We wanted to

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:29.360
<v Speaker 1>know it's really happening before we had everyone's input an opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>This also just realized we said a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in the first segment that we're active basically lies. What

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.480
<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about space and how someday we'll

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.159
<v Speaker 1>be able to deal with it. That wasn't lies. It

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a lie. It was misleading. Okay, Well, the news

0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:55.679
<v Speaker 1>is that we're buying a house. We're moving. We're moving,

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving back to Brooklyn. Holy holy wrap the jolly

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>holy cow. It's yeah, it's crazy, but we're s could be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been stressed about it. We've been processing that it's

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<v Speaker 1>really happening. I still don't fully in my mind, believe

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's happening, but theoretically it is happening. We've gotten

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the contract looks good. Everyone loves to hear about the

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:35.679
<v Speaker 1>legal detail. It's it's really been a big hole in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, and that really all I'm thinking about is this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have to think. I can feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't talk about that, so I gotta think about

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>something else. Yeah, it's been consuming us. Um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>so we're moving into a property that requires a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of renovations, so we won't be moving until the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we found a new thing to be stressed about.

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<v Speaker 1>So tonight to make this about parenting. I told our

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<v Speaker 1>kids about the move, yeah, and really specifically, well, yeah,

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 1>we've told them about it a little bit. Um. I

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>showed them their new home. I talked to I also

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<v Speaker 1>talked about schools, and I saw Brin realize that he

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>was gonna not be living near his friends anymore, and

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>he got very sad for one second. Well then instantly

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>he says, like we've talked about this, is like we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a home and then we're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to switch schools. And Britain always says not until

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with kindergarten. I mean, not until I'm done

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.640
<v Speaker 1>with first grade, then we can move. He changed it now,

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<v Speaker 1>not until Maven's done with the first grade. Oh yeah,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he keeps like upping the auntie. He was like, m

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit longer UM so that's gonna be hard,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he's young enough that he will instantly

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<v Speaker 1>forget that he lived here and everyone he ever knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, well, hopefully we'll keep in touch. I feel

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 1>like it's classic that, like like when you're just about

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 1>to leave somewhere, it starts to get really good and

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>like our bathroom is done, and then like we had

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this like crazy like sixty degree weekend, so we're outside

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was like actually able to have real conversations

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with like two different neighbors who have two different moms

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>who have kids Brind's age, like separately, and I was like, oh,

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm having a good time talking to them, because

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>like usually when i'm running too them, I'm like running

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to work or something, or I've had toddlers and I'm

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just chasing them and I can't have a real conversation.

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're like finally get to this point where

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>you're like I can like talk to these people. And

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<v Speaker 1>up we moved to the suburbs away from We lived

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn for a long time and then we had

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<v Speaker 1>a baby and we got we got out of Dodge

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>and moved to the suburbs and had a baby and

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>knew nobody, and you don't meet people until your kids

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>in like kindergarten, and then you start meeting other parents

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and having play dates. And like, we're right at that

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>point where we're realizing there are friends to be had,

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and we're doing the reverse commute, the reverse exodus of

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>what everyone else does is that they have babies in

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>New York and then they moved to the suburbs when

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>their kids start to go to school. So we everyone

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>we know and want to be around, we'll probably immediately

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>leave Brooklyn as soon as we get there. Oh my god,

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:35.639
<v Speaker 1>our friends aren't allowed to have Um that's the rule, friends,

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the rule. Friends. Um So yeah, that's exciting and

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:53.640
<v Speaker 1>um stressful. Oh um. So schools is the big thing.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's gonna say, it's the big thing that that I'm

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.919
<v Speaker 1>now not stressed about, but it's a big thing I have.

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>We have to figure out. You gotta check out the

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 1>public school, you gotta check out charter schools, gotta check

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>out private schools. We gotta check out all these options

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and then be like, what's good, what's closed, what's possible?

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>It's overwhelming. When do we have to apply? This was

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 1>the thing it's our home renovated in time for the

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 1>school year to start. I didn't are We did not

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>think we would ever live in New York City ever again.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Um And before I know, you didn't, I mean I

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't really believe we would be able to do it. Yeah,

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>neither did I. This was your idea. And when you

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>told me, I said, get out of here. Then I

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>screamed at the top of my lungs. And really, every

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>single time we have a big life change, like a move,

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I say, hey, I think we should do this thing,

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and presenting you with my research and thoughts and you

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>say that's crazy, You're insane, that would never happen. It's

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>a bad idea, you stupid idiot. I will say. We

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>had some real big fights, but there was we did

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>have a really good conversation that I felt great about. Um. Um,

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 1>where like, you know, you are very thoughtful and you

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>think through things, and this is something you thought through.

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm also like sort of obsessed with home, like

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>the place I live in is very important to me. Yes, actually,

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>after this I saw the bathroom got done. I'm so

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>excited to not be a part of this renovation. I'm

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>excited to see what you do. I like the work

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>share we've sort of gotten into, which is like we

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we can be cced on emails with people where like

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.959
<v Speaker 1>I tell them what's what in the vision and like

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>what needs to be done, and then when they start

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.199
<v Speaker 1>asking like how we're going to pay for things, I'm like,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>my husband will talk to you about that those details,

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Dr mister wallet over not that like like numbers, yuck,

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>talk to this guy. I just I just find that

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>part so boring. When people are like and now we

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>need these contracts signed and notarized, and I'm like, m no, Um,

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go find some snacks. Yeah, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the walls should be blue, and I'm like, where

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>does that go on the spreadsheet? I'm in the colors column. Yeah. So, um,

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>dramatically unrelated topic. But last week we we talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the band five for Fighting, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a lot of comments and emails and text

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<v Speaker 1>from friends about that, and I just want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to acknowledge that, Um, I did not sing the

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>correct song when that Superman song, I was like, oh no,

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>when you started singing it, it was like not what

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. But then as soon as someone starts

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<v Speaker 1>singing a song, you can't picture any other song in

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>your mind. And that's just that's small, that upper that small,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that up har um five for fighting. The tone of

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<v Speaker 1>five for fighting. The band could not match the concept

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of five minutes penalty for fighting? Less? Was that a

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>convoluted way to say that something? Again? So like the

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>concept of five for fighting, like five minutes five been

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<v Speaker 1>a penalty for fighting in a hockey game. That concept

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<v Speaker 1>You think the soundtrack of that concept is is moll

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that up bard? That's small? Apply you think it'd be

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>more like a d top kick Murphy type of what

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<v Speaker 1>are you telling about? You're saying theoretically the soundtrack for

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>sitting in a penalty box. The band five for fighting

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the band, right, But that's one of

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>their songs, right, But all of their songs, it's this

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>one guy, it's not even a band. All of his

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<v Speaker 1>songs are like these real sweet piano singer songwriter things

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that that couldn't be further from the aesthetic of hockey.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong? Am I crazy? Everything's an illusion? Peter

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Our children like to listen to a band called Queen

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>because they sang a song called we Will rock You.

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>That is ostensibly a hockey anthem of sports events, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet it is sung by a queer icon. Uh you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Beth, that is an excellent point. I think

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>five for fighting is the opposite of queens. We Will

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>rock You. Our kids were, oh, wait, this is something

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>funny that have that it completely forgot, which is when

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Brent's friend was here. He was like, hey, Sirie play,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh funk, what is the song. It was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that. It was not we Will Rock You. Why

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>did that start playing? Did you put that on? No? You? Okay,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>so you said, hey Sirie, right right, But I didn't

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>say play we will rock you. We were talking about

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>it earlier. Okay do you guys? Yeah, stop we can't.

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>We don't have the rights for this. Stop it. It's

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>too long. Oh this is a disaster. Wait so okay,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>so wait wait that made no sense. So I was

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to remember the song. So he kept your custing

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this song by Imagine Dragon and he was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was just so funny to see like a five year old.

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>He kept going, hey Sirie, play Believer by Imagine Dragons

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.479
<v Speaker 1>and it was so funny. And then he would just

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<v Speaker 1>dance hey, Sirie stop. So oh my god. Oh yeah,

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>so it's that song and it's like those things. So

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>they he was dancing to that so enthusiastically, and then

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Bryn would try to think of a song, but he

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>only knows like one song off the top of his heade,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>which is we Will Rock You. So then they were

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>just alternating back and forth between those two songs. So

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>then when his friend's dad came to pick him up,

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they all insisted on like dancing to a full song

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>in front of him, and they were like, they were like,

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we have to request this again. And then they're all

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>like dancing and jumping on the couch and they looked

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous. Um, they had really all of them had

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>really funny dance moves. Um. Yeah, last time we went

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>over to his house, there was another boy there, maybe

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.479
<v Speaker 1>it was there. She didn't want to participate, but they

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>got a full band. They had a microphone, guitar and

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>conga and it was real cute. Yeah, it was. Yeah,

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>they were very funny. Brin one of my favorite videos.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to visit my Instagram and scroll all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to when Brin could barely talk but

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>still talk to nonsense words all the time. There's a

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>video of him at requesting a song because stop stop clop,

0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what do you stop? Stop cop stop

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<v Speaker 1>stop cop sumptom quap. I'm like, what do you want?

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It was stump stump clop, and I figured out that

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<v Speaker 1>all you saying stump stump clap, and he wanted me

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to play we will rock you. Stump stump clop, stump

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<v Speaker 1>stump clap and figuring that out. It still feels like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the great dad accomplishments of my life was

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<v Speaker 1>so satisfying. Stump stomp kwop by sometimes clap, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>should be called stump stump quap. I think you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them to scroll back and look for the

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>video of Maven playing ukulele when she's like one years old.

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>How old she's like too. She's doing her little foot

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>tap pretending to play. Oh yeah, I'm standing plinking it's

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hard and she's standing next to me trying to tap

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>her foot like me. Boy, she's so cute. I rediscovered

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>this video on my sister's Instagram this week of the

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Brenn and Maven when they're like two and three or

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<v Speaker 1>like littl er. They're so little, they're like one and two,

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're like feeding her friend's dog and they're so

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>adorable and chunky, and they're clapping because the dog's eating food.

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>And then Brin is so excited that he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>hug Maven and like tackles her to the ground and

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're so adorable and round there there. I

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>can't I never had siblings that close to in age,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's only two of them, so I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to be close in a way that

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't relate to well that I feel it feels

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>very similar to me and my brother. To me, because

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>me and my brother were almost exactly two years apart

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>in Britain, man or twenty months, and it's just like

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>there's something about that closeness where it's like the two

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of them just can't imagine a life without each other,

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then you're just like that person you're

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>sibling dynamic with, that person is just such an enormous

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>part of who you are, you know what I mean,

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>likely boy, and it's it's gonna be different. Like my

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>older brother is like three and a half four years

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:42.720
<v Speaker 1>older than me, and my little bit of six years.

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And so there's all these phases of my childhood where

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm close with this one and that one, but it's

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>not the same. I feel like it's being so close. Yeah,

0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>oh boy, we gotta we gotta move. Of we had

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to move, I like, yeah, we're not going to move

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>for at least six or seven months, but I'm already

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>stressed about moving. Well, that's all the stuff that we

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>need to throw away because this apartment is too cluttered.

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Then it's also like, wow, we're gonna have more space. Yeah,

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's like we're never gonna wish we had that stuff.

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>There's just too much stuff. It's true. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get a way bigger place and then before

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>you know it, it's just full of stuff. Well, the

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>basement of this house currently is a horder level of

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>just absolute garbage. It could be worse. It's just not

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>organized in any way. It's just someone was like and

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>none of the lights work and anyway, it's fine anyway,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.959
<v Speaker 1>Wish us luck, wish us luck. Um, you can send

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>housewarming gifts to know we know spot at gmail dot com.

0:36:53.440 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Please never do um yeah, um, so yeah, so we will.

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<v Speaker 1>We can stop lying to you. Now, stop the lies.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It's happening. I guess now we have to tell everyone.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this was happening, but now the secrets

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>out and the whole world knows. Yeah, I mean yeah,

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I told sure if this deal doesn't fall through, it's

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>true if we don't sign this, I was just waiting

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>until we sign the contract. But we're a couple of

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 1>days away from that. Anyway, fun stuff we talk more about.

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>The contract has been we knows. Holy crap, that's there's

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>an announcement. This next segment is called Listeners Want to Knows.

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>This is where we take questions and comments from you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, um, we have an email from a listener. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Beth and Peter, apologizing advanced for the super long email,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was wondering if you had any advice or

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<v Speaker 1>know of any resources for coping after a miscarriage. I'm

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty two and this would have would have been my

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>first pregnancy. I knew I was pregnant right after Thanksgiving,

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>but didn't tell my husband until I was five weeks

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to surprise him with the gift that

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>hadn't arrived yet. Uh darn, Etsy and mail delivery. When

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I told him, he was so excited, as was I.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Our lives had changed forever with the news. I had

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 1>had spotting since implantation and more one sided pain, but

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the doctor did a scan and saw everything looked good.

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>In week four. Halfway through week six, though, I woke

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>up to what looked like a period and got scared.

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Called the dock and they were able to see me

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that afternoon. We're able to see a heartbeat, but it

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>was too slow, and at that time the doctor couldn't

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>tell if it had just started beating or if it

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was the beginning of a miscarriage. They told me to

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<v Speaker 1>go home and keep an eye on my symptoms and

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>if things got worse to let them know. They gave

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>me the outs of it would be a viable pregnancy

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>chance of miscarriage. Christmas Eve, I had a miscarriage at home,

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<v Speaker 1>just five days after the last visit to my doctor.

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>My husband was there to help me through the pain

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and motions of it all. I called my sister, who

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>is currently pregnant with her first child but it also

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>had a miscarriage before that, to have a little more

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.279
<v Speaker 1>support from someone who's been through it. I told very

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>few people about what happened, but didn't feel much better

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>after shockingly being told things happened for a reason and

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>what will be will be didn't make me feel like

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I had any relief. My husband has been struggling with

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>it also. He said he didn't have enough time to

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>process everything about the pregnancy before was over. He said

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like someone handed him a picture of the

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>light at the end of the tunnel where he knew

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the endpoint was a baby, but it was still the beginning,

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but then someone took the picture away, uh, soon after

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>he got it. The time of year also didn't help

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>with the stress and emotions because all during Christmas I

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>kept seeing everyone's beautiful bumps all of her Facebook, and

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>it brought back all my emotions. Anyway, I don't know

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>if you guys had any advice or words of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, love what you do. Bethany Wow. Um. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we're so sorry to hear that happen to you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know if I have like any like

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing advice for her, aside from just like trying. I

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:30.319
<v Speaker 1>think anyone who's going through anything like this should make

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.080
<v Speaker 1>as much space for themselves as they need to process

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:37.479
<v Speaker 1>and grieve it, and it sounds like she's doing that.

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, if there's particular triggers like

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>social media, that she can let herself off the hook

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for that or you know, events like she you know,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.359
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't. Yeah, I feel like social media wa be

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>particularly unhelpful. Yeah, and it's not. You can't always really

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>predict where the triggers are going to come from in

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>your life. But um, yeah, I think she should, you know,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>let herself feel her feelings and be upset. And I

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's good like that she sent this email, whether

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>she wants to be more public about it or not,

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I think talking about it with whoever you're comfortable talking

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>about it with is really good to help you move

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 1>through and process what happened and acknowledge, because they think

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.879
<v Speaker 1>if you're not acknowledging the weight of something like this

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>then how it's affected you, then that keeps you more

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>stuck there and the emotion. Yeah, and it's and I'm

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I am sure as as she described this email, that

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that people around you also, you know, don't don't necessarily

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>know how to support you because it's not simple, it's

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>not a thing, it's not a thing to be fixed.

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm sure you're getting a lot of as

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned those like everything happens for a reason. Yeah,

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.720
<v Speaker 1>And people say some stuff all the time to everyone

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>about things that they don't realize are super triggering. And

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why sometimes I think it's not that

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, it should always like, not that you shouldn't

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>expect people around you to make space for you, because

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>you should, But that's why sometimes I think it is

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>good to just like take a break from people in

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 1>situations that might be draining for you and just like

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself when you're in a vulnerable position.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's a it's it's I would imagine, and I

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have not, We've been fortunate enough to not go through this, ah.

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But how confusing it is because this is this is

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a you know, ah, you're grieving the loss of a

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>person that you never met, and so this this person

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.239
<v Speaker 1>exists in your in your head and we you know,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 1>when when people are pregnant, when we are pregnant, you

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of course can't help but invest in this this this

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>baby that you have and that you're going to have

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 1>with them. Yeah, and and even you don't know them yet,

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>but suddenly you lose them. You lose that that person

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that you've developed, that you've invested, you've built a relationship

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.439
<v Speaker 1>um with somebody that you've imagined for the most part,

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's you still go through a grieving period, but

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't. Yeah, I think I think people in our

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 1>culture are not taught to be patient with theirselves when

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they're vulnerable or being like when they're sometimes we all

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>are turned into a mess, like we're just not like

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>we everyone should get a pass at some point to

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 1>be no longer relied upon, or to have bad days

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>or to you know, like just things get bad and

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to just acknowledge that and like let it

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>envelope you temporarily. And I think it's especially true for women,

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's also true for men in the sense of

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like this toxic masculinity thing where it's like the fact

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:20.959
<v Speaker 1>that it's hit her hitting her husband hard. I think

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 1>like people would not necessarily expect that or consider that.

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's it's a weird double edged sword because

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>like people expect men to be so tough, but then

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they're also so much more sympathetic to men in certain situations.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember reading the Facebook post of this man I

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>know who's grieving his teenage daughter, and how while while

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>they were grieving so many he said, seemingly so many

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>more people would come and empathize with him, and like

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of like, I think, because we see women in

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>these sort of caretaker roles that sometimes we sort of

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>just assume they'll like suck it up and hold it together.

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>But then in other ways we also expect men to

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>hold it together and not express emotions that are not anger.

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's just like very complicated. Yeah, and I

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>know that I've been guilty of this, and it's yeah,

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>my impulse has always been too fix a problem, you know.

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 1>And so I think when when I've had people around

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:35.240
<v Speaker 1>me who just have grief or are just have gone

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>through something sad, especially when I was younger, you know,

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd go into that mode of like, well, here's what

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do, you know. It's just like and it

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>is that mode of here's here's how you get through this,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>as in now I'm older and wiser, and and no

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>at least that like, oh no, it's worth it's not

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>my problem to solve, and this is not a solvable problem.

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 1>This is just something it needs to be experienced. Yeah,

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 1>we're not really comfortable in our culture with like sitting

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>with painful emotion. It's not like it's not acceptable like

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone's supposed to like rush off and do something or

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>drink something or you know. Like yeah, but also and

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>also not everyone grieves the same way and what people

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:26.879
<v Speaker 1>who are grieving, I don't always know what they need,

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's it changes moment to moment. And so yeah, well,

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I think is really interesting, I can't

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>remeber if I talked about this, but um, the same

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>man I was talking about who lost his daughter, had

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of a blog on her. She she had cancer

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and she died from cancer. And then he was posting

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>on there's sort of like a caring something website where

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you can give updates on people and some I think

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>some people continue to update after their death. And it

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>was actually really nice to hear him thoughtfully reflecting on

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.959
<v Speaker 1>his experience because it's such a dark period that people

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>don't really talk about out and he was talking about

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>how they and his wife were working with a therapist

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and how that's really good because people are so just

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like spent during that period and can really use like

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 1>any help they can get, and he was talking about

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>how they're when you're grieving, you lose some of your

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:24.200
<v Speaker 1>like executive function ability, like your your day to day processing.

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't You're just like not you're kind of just

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>like sunked out in a weird way because obviously you're

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.439
<v Speaker 1>just in a state of shock, but then also you're

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like dealing with the most stressful thing ever and a

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of times people are trying to execute a will

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and plan a funeral, and like it's just like there's

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>so much on top of you while you're in the

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>state where you can barely function. And then he was

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 1>also talking about how there is there's this really interesting thing.

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I had to find the blog and I get share it,

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>but I can't remember the link. It was like a

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>very random, like psychologist blog, but there was this thing

0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about how when we when something bad happens, we

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>resort to one of several coping mechanisms. And so when

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you're in a state of prolonged grief, where your your

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 1>brain continues to try to solve the problem, you start

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>to cycle through coping mechanisms, and so you might like

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>fixate on one and just like keep attempting it over

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and over again. But it's like, you know, all of

0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>all of your normal coping mechanisms of like you know,

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't whatever like go eat food, drink like you

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, thing like I'm trying. There's like I think

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>like hyper productivity is one for some people, like you

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:41.919
<v Speaker 1>know how some people they're like they gain a sense

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of control from like workaholism or whatever they need to

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:50.400
<v Speaker 1>have something to do to And I do feel like

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.439
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you almost see that with people who are like

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the second someone dies, it feels like they're like starting

0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>like a charity or like they're like put pouring themselves

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>into trying to make a meaning of the death. And

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like not that there's anything wrong with that inherently, but

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:11.800
<v Speaker 1>so I feel like I understand that that, like the

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.359
<v Speaker 1>feeling like you have something needs to be done. Yea.

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it was just really interesting how like it was.

0:49:20.280 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he was talking about how it all played

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>into like why when people lose a child, their relationships

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>tend to fall apart like very often. And I think

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:33.440
<v Speaker 1>when you have two people whose brains are trying to

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>process all of this and who are sort of flailing

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 1>and like trying to make sense of their lives and

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like just making erratic decisions and being like sort of

0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:46.439
<v Speaker 1>out of it, like it's just so overwhelming, and yeah,

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that you have to find a new It makes you

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>confront what has meaning because when you suddenly lose something,

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:02.399
<v Speaker 1>ah that it was very meaningful for you, I feel

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>like that meaning needs to get redirected to something else

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>for some people. Yeah. Um. And so it is also

0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that like, oh, I'm going to do something about this

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>because it needs to have been for a reason. Um. Yeah,

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, or you become like nihilist, Like I don't know,

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>there's like a lot of ways, sort of like a

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>very specific thing. Um, but yeah, it's like that's why

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, people should be gentle with themselves and hopefully

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>they have people they can turn to and talk to,

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I think in situations like this,

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, it's kind of like you know,

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you almost want to liken it to like having a newborn,

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.760
<v Speaker 1>like when your brain and you're like when your body

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:54.479
<v Speaker 1>is like physically and mentally preoccupied with something, like it's

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's going to consume and impair you for a while.

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 1>And if you're like if you're functioning at like a

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 1>d plus like that's good for where you're at right now,

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's just like you don't need to

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.120
<v Speaker 1>be like you can phone your life in a little

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>bit temporarily, and and and people trying to support that person. Yeah,

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>more and more I've realized that like being there for somebody,

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:32.240
<v Speaker 1>um really should mean just that is just being around

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to I'm here for you? What can I do?

0:51:34.239 --> 0:51:36.439
<v Speaker 1>What are we gonna And it's hard not to try

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:39.399
<v Speaker 1>to solve it, like when especially when you see someone

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 1>in like deep pain, like it's really that's all of

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>our knee jerk reaction. It's like what can I get you?

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.240
<v Speaker 1>What can I do? Like you know, um, I'm working

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:51.759
<v Speaker 1>on listening. Obviously, I'm relating this to myself. I'm too

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>afraid to ask people questions and um yeah, but the

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:04.959
<v Speaker 1>sometimes suppecially can do feel like that's really bad. Yeah. Yeah.

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I have a friend recently that I went through a

0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:13.440
<v Speaker 1>negative thing and I'm so so practical and I'm like, okay, great,

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>here's the you know, here's here's what we can do

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:21.839
<v Speaker 1>and all that, and and then later this person told

0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 1>me he's it was like, you know, I sort of

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:29.600
<v Speaker 1>wish you just told me like, yeah, that sucks. I'm sorry,

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was like I sort of skipped that and

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and went right to the it's going to be okay.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, you know what, it sucks. They said

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that to you. I wish you'd told me that sucks. Yeah,

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.279
<v Speaker 1>very politely, but it was very honest. I appreciated it.

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I skipped that and I went

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>straight onto the looking ahead. Yeah. Well, sometimes you have

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to feel people out and it's hard, like you have

0:52:56.680 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to take a beat to be like, is this person

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>in a place where they want to here it's going

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to be okay? Or do they want to hear that sucks?

0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes like sometimes they're trying to move through and they

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:11.320
<v Speaker 1>do need someone to be like it's gonna be okay.

0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's me. Oh my phone just said it's fifteen

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 1>minutes to bedtime. That's me and I need to work

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 1>on the just saying that that sucks. Yeah, well we

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>all do. Um, well, thank you very much Bethany for

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>writing in. Um yeah, thank you for sharing that with us.

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:33.799
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0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.719
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0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:42.680
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0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.640
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0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.359
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0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:52.200
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