Speaker 1: Oh we know it's parenting. Is here again? Here we are.
Speaker 1: I'm Peter McNerney, I'm Beth Newell. Like I said, we're
Speaker 1: here again. We're here again. What do you think it
Speaker 1: was gonna be somebody else? What did you think you
Speaker 1: were getting into? What do you think You hear that
Speaker 1: awesome Mates of State theme song kick in and it'd
Speaker 1: suddenly be two different people without kids? Think again, Mr.
Speaker 1: I always I forget that that's our music, and I'm
Speaker 1: having a completely different podcast experience to our listeners who
Speaker 1: are hearing the words that I'm saying. Yeah, that's so
Speaker 1: funny because I edit this so I hear that song
Speaker 1: every single week, literally never. If you've wondered where does
Speaker 1: that awesome theme song come from, it's made of State
Speaker 1: Mates of State, which I said this on the podcast before,
Speaker 1: But we're we're Mates of States fans back from our
Speaker 1: college days. We always have been. And when I was
Speaker 1: in college or just out of college, the female half
Speaker 1: of Mats of State, I think, what's her name, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Carrie Wrong, I don't know. Um. She had
Speaker 1: a blog about like touring around with their kids, and
Speaker 1: I was like, actually found it really inspirational to be
Speaker 1: like a creative person can have a career and somehow
Speaker 1: make it work with children. They're married, they have kids,
Speaker 1: and they still do their thing. Yeah, they still do
Speaker 1: their thing and they let us use their themes. So
Speaker 1: they let us se themes. The story is incredible because
Speaker 1: we were sending you know, the folks over at the network.
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, what do you want your theme song
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Speaker 1: here's a bunch of music styles that we like, and
Speaker 1: we sound up a bunch of mates State and good
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Speaker 1: the sound we're looking for. Everyone's favorite podcast host, Chuck
Speaker 1: Bryant from Selfishnell movie Crush just said, Oh, I'll just
Speaker 1: ask them. Of course he knows them. Of course we
Speaker 1: didn't know, and they they let us use it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the story of the theme song. Life is like
Speaker 1: a box of chocolates. You know what sometimes did you
Speaker 1: ask you'll get the chocolate? Well, it's called manifesting folks. Folks. Folks. Um,
Speaker 1: we started, we started using folks, and now we have
Speaker 1: to use it for the rest of this podcast. Alright, folks, alright, folks,
Speaker 1: what happened in this weekend? Are week in parenting? What
Speaker 1: happened in this week? So we're finally back in our home.
Speaker 1: We talked about that last week. No, yes, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: yeah we recorded here last week. Okay, but now we're
Speaker 1: like settled, and the bathroom is so nice. The bathroom
Speaker 1: is great. The lovely woman who UM comes twice a
Speaker 1: month to clean UM was very impressed with the bathroom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she liked it. When she Yeah, she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: And I was like, she's so happy to clean a
Speaker 1: bathroom that doesn't have a rotting window sill. She's so
Speaker 1: happy to have a bathroom that's clean. Uble She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you want me to clean this duct taped tile? Great? Um,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yes. So we didn't mention this so long ago.
Speaker 1: This we knew that this bathroom. But there was a
Speaker 1: little soap dish in the tile wall of the shower
Speaker 1: and one day you put your foot on it to
Speaker 1: shave your legs, which is a reasonable thing to do,
Speaker 1: and the whole thing just ripped out of the wall.
Speaker 1: And so the solution was white du duct tape to
Speaker 1: cover the hole for three years and literally really all
Speaker 1: of the naked baby photos of our children over the
Speaker 1: past five years have been with a mildowy tile behind
Speaker 1: them and the duct tape tile. The duct tape was
Speaker 1: surprised lasted a surprisingly long time without getting gross. I
Speaker 1: replaced it, probably replaced it twice, yeah again instead of
Speaker 1: getting it fixed. If I have one piece of advice
Speaker 1: for people for being poor, it's find the money for
Speaker 1: a duck team. Um. Yeah. Now the wooden window sill
Speaker 1: inside the shower that just was in the corner of
Speaker 1: the of this piece of wood, it was mostly as
Speaker 1: soft as a blanket. This would because it was completely
Speaker 1: rotted away and causing a leaf. Because a blanket what
Speaker 1: a weird anoug is a blanket not soft. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've covered the state of our bathroom before, so
Speaker 1: we can move. Do you want to hear how I
Speaker 1: got to the logic about blanket because I was like,
Speaker 1: that's too soft, and then I was like a memory foam,
Speaker 1: and I was like stop too weirdly, Okay, So then
Speaker 1: I said blanket. We so that happened. Um. Our Christmas
Speaker 1: presents are mostly packed away, although of course the box
Speaker 1: we shipped back some of our presents from Chicago and
Speaker 1: of like five boxes. The one that got lost was
Speaker 1: the one that included very expensive gift cards. Um can
Speaker 1: who knows what else we lost in there. We'll just
Speaker 1: never remember, at least the book some pantowels fancy soap.
Speaker 1: But so my dad went to the post office where
Speaker 1: from which I mailed the boxes, because he has my
Speaker 1: same name, and I knew exactly what time I sent them,
Speaker 1: and I had of it from my credit card and
Speaker 1: the other boxes, and I was like, well, they can
Speaker 1: find the tracking number because they know exactly when we
Speaker 1: send it. Nope, they don't do that. No, of course
Speaker 1: they don't. It's the United States Postal Service. That's why
Speaker 1: they give you the long receipt and they circle the
Speaker 1: thing and they say, this is your tracking number. This
Speaker 1: is now in your hands. But the thing that's crazy
Speaker 1: is the that data exists very easily in their system.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean the United States Postal Service has not
Speaker 1: hired Harvard's top data collectors to connect their systems. And
Speaker 1: you want bigger government? Is this what you want? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do want bigger, want more post That made me
Speaker 1: sound a lot more Republican than let's not get on
Speaker 1: this bath. So our kids had second Christmas. Your parents
Speaker 1: came down this weekend. My parents came down and um,
Speaker 1: they had some breaks is used in the last are
Speaker 1: They had a drop in the shop. Luckily it was
Speaker 1: not a huge deal. They got taken care of. Um.
Speaker 1: But we have a lot more presence. This is what's
Speaker 1: kind of stressing me out right now, is like as
Speaker 1: a virgo who's always scanning my surroundings for flaws, the
Speaker 1: we have too much stuff again, and we need to
Speaker 1: get rid of stuff. And I know it's just like
Speaker 1: to swear through all the toys is just such an
Speaker 1: annoying chore. I secretly throw things away. I just do it.
Speaker 1: I don't tell anyone. I do that too, But like
Speaker 1: it needs an overhaul. It's we're a way, We're yeah,
Speaker 1: it's overdue. It's just there's just so much stuff. It's like,
Speaker 1: I think, what's frustrating, like for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And I don't think our family is particularly bad about this.
Speaker 1: It's just that there's so many people who give you stuff.
Speaker 1: But like I think our generation is like less likely
Speaker 1: to own a home, like a physical home, and like
Speaker 1: don't have as much space and don't have like like
Speaker 1: there are is a little more conscious of the environment,
Speaker 1: and our families still give us presents and you don't.
Speaker 1: You can't be like, hey, stop giving us things like
Speaker 1: it's hard to it's it's all still very very nice.
Speaker 1: It's nice, love it, but it's just as a sum total,
Speaker 1: it's so much stuff. The next day you're like, I
Speaker 1: have no more cabinets. I mean someday, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: have like a playroom, but it still feels like more
Speaker 1: stuff than children can enjoy. Oh, the entire blanket is
Speaker 1: falling off the wall. Wow, did you see that happening? Yeah,
Speaker 1: after you started screaming about it, I could see it.
Speaker 1: I can see it dropping if you're just kind of
Speaker 1: a little echoly or around Beth. Because the incredible sound
Speaker 1: installation system I have, which is literally hanging blankets all
Speaker 1: around us, we sound like a mess. What we're actually
Speaker 1: doing really well, everything we're good. Um, literally have a
Speaker 1: new bathroom that we've mentioned nine million times. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we my parents came. Oh so then on Sunday, my
Speaker 1: parents had to hang out because their car was being
Speaker 1: repaired because just classic family thing, their brakes started to fail.
Speaker 1: It's such a classic family things. It's not classic my
Speaker 1: family thing that on the one day they're coming here,
Speaker 1: their brakes would stop working on their cars, so they like, um,
Speaker 1: they had to get their car fixed, and so they're
Speaker 1: barring our car. And then I took the kids after
Speaker 1: you left on Sunday to go to work. I took
Speaker 1: the kids to their hotel nearby, which has an indoor
Speaker 1: pool in it, which we know about because your parents
Speaker 1: stayed there and we went to that and so yeah,
Speaker 1: but very warm. It is in that scenario, in like
Speaker 1: an indoor hotel pool that clearly like everyone is coming by,
Speaker 1: like just USA pool. I feel like I want there
Speaker 1: to be way too much chlorine. I mean that is
Speaker 1: that's their safety net, just kill everything. Yeah. I'm not
Speaker 1: usually like a big germophobe, but in that scenario, let's
Speaker 1: or not either. But it is. It's not like the
Speaker 1: pool ice woman every day. It's like a one time
Speaker 1: visit to like the most used pool in town. I
Speaker 1: save that pool for a long long time and it
Speaker 1: really dried me out. Yeah that's part of the fun.
Speaker 1: But we took them to the pool um, which they love.
Speaker 1: But of course when we got there, the floor was wet.
Speaker 1: There's kids in the pool and Brin just like walking
Speaker 1: a little too fast, his heel just like skidded. He
Speaker 1: fell backwards, slammed his head into the ground and was crying,
Speaker 1: and it was like, I mean his butt hit first,
Speaker 1: so I was like, I don't think he has like
Speaker 1: a cushion, but it's like not something you ever want
Speaker 1: to see happen to your kid's head. And then he
Speaker 1: calmed down and he seemed fine, and we played in
Speaker 1: the pool for a while, and then we're getting out
Speaker 1: of the pool and then Maven just standing there like
Speaker 1: barely even walking. She does the same thing and slams
Speaker 1: like the side of her head into the ground, what
Speaker 1: like just really hard like slams, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. And then she's like crying and like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I've talked about this in the past,
Speaker 1: how when we're with our families, they're not like as
Speaker 1: tuned into kids needs as we are. So while I'm
Speaker 1: trying to comfort throw me into that, well, I just
Speaker 1: think people who don't spend every single day of their
Speaker 1: life with our children are not as aware of their
Speaker 1: quirks and videosyncrasies. So that's happening. And I'm looking over
Speaker 1: at Bryan, who like, because when this happened with Brint earlier,
Speaker 1: Maybe is just like stumbling around, and I was like,
Speaker 1: can you please just sit down like for once, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like they're both idiots. And so then well,
Speaker 1: in scenarios like this where I'm like, oh, great, people's
Speaker 1: lives are in danger. Um, so then I'm conforting maybe,
Speaker 1: And while this is happening, Brin is like walking around
Speaker 1: and I was just like trying to comfort maybe, and
Speaker 1: my mom was like giving me a play by play
Speaker 1: of how she felt, and I was just like, can
Speaker 1: you watch him? Like he's just like wandering like and
Speaker 1: it was fine, he didn't fall, but I was just like,
Speaker 1: I really thought this story was going towards a third fault. No,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a third fault, but I was just like,
Speaker 1: that's the scenarios that I find very frustrating in terms
Speaker 1: of just like you stupid kids, like just stop moving
Speaker 1: for one second. It feels like in a video game,
Speaker 1: we walk into like a field of land mines and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, hey, you guys, there's this thing, and
Speaker 1: then they're just like blonder, like they're just it's like
Speaker 1: giving a kid a computer with a game of mind
Speaker 1: Sweeper open and just saying, hey, guess where the minds are.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to explain the word. They just
Speaker 1: start clicking everywhere. It's like buying ice cream when my
Speaker 1: husband is home and expecting him not to devour it.
Speaker 1: When I'm not like, well that's you, that's on you. No,
Speaker 1: you've told me as the victim. It's my pahl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, don't bring ice cream into this house because
Speaker 1: we're all going to feel bad for different reasons. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't have any control. You're right, No, one
Speaker 1: shouldn't be held accountable for their own actions. I have
Speaker 1: an ice cream addiction and you don't respect that. You
Speaker 1: know what it's it's certainly back to not having enough
Speaker 1: space for anything. It's circling back. Yeah. You know, my
Speaker 1: parents sent me that big tub of all my stuff,
Speaker 1: like from high school and stuff, and they're like, time
Speaker 1: for you to take this. We can't store it anymore.
Speaker 1: You mean like ten years ago? No, this was Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like that we had less space and you know,
Speaker 1: they have a humongous house with a giant basement with
Speaker 1: a lot of space. I was like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to complain but I think they can hold onto it
Speaker 1: until I have space. But I still don't have space.
Speaker 1: We'll never have enough space for them parents. No, I
Speaker 1: just mean boomers belongings. Belongings. You mean our belongings that
Speaker 1: we're expecting our our boomers to hold on to us forever. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting anything to be held onto um. And
Speaker 1: I don't have neither one of us do I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff from No, we have a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but it's not like from our childhood.
Speaker 1: I'm nostalgic for nostalgia. Nostalgia, i'd I'm nostalgic for things
Speaker 1: that could be nostalgic that I don't have anymore. What
Speaker 1: I don't know. Actually, don't ask me to defend what
Speaker 1: I just said. I have no idea. Forget it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What's um um? Oh boy, oh boy, it's okay. You
Speaker 1: know what it's We finally have a decade with an identity.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Wait, I forgot to actually
Speaker 1: tell you, like the best story of the week. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: let's not look ahead to the year quite yet. Then
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm sure you had something very important to say.
Speaker 1: I'm not um, but I'm trying to find I was
Speaker 1: tweeting this that this week, but um, trying to find
Speaker 1: the streets. The So Bryn had a played it yesterday
Speaker 1: and his friend, one of his close friends, was over
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, just saying weird stuff to
Speaker 1: each other. I think, here's what I think happened. Brynn
Speaker 1: got a new book with extinct animals, and in one
Speaker 1: part there's like this weird marsupial tiger thing, um, and
Speaker 1: he I think maybe they were looking at that with
Speaker 1: like the baby's coming out of it, and one with
Speaker 1: the weird backward facing butt pouch. Yeah, that's the craziest
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen, by the way. So Bryn's friend
Speaker 1: comes into the bedroom where I am and he walks
Speaker 1: in and he goes, when you were pregnant with Bryn,
Speaker 1: did he come out your butt? And I was like,
Speaker 1: uh no. And then and then Bryn came in there like,
Speaker 1: well did you come out your but belly? And I
Speaker 1: was like he came out of my vagina? And like
Speaker 1: it's just like I have to be honest about this, um.
Speaker 1: And then they said like so many insane things over
Speaker 1: the course of the play date. So I overheard Brent's
Speaker 1: friend talking to him and he goes, do you guys
Speaker 1: celebrate New Year's And Brent said, yeah, we do. Oh, wait,
Speaker 1: no we don't. And then and then at one point,
Speaker 1: Brinna was playing with him with his new X Men
Speaker 1: toys and he said he kept he keeps insisting that
Speaker 1: all the X Men are bad guys. So yeah, brand does.
Speaker 1: And his logic for this I think is interesting because
Speaker 1: it kind of like explains a lot of things culturally.
Speaker 1: Brin is like, all the X Men are bad guys
Speaker 1: because everyone's mad at them. And he's right that in
Speaker 1: the context of the show, everyone is prejudiced against X Men.
Speaker 1: So I understand failure of the definition of bad guy
Speaker 1: or or he's his empathy is off both. I think
Speaker 1: he's just picking up on the fact that he's like,
Speaker 1: in this world, no one likes X Well. I think
Speaker 1: it also like bad guy doesn't necessarily mean what it means.
Speaker 1: But the other thing he said is that he said
Speaker 1: Professor X doesn't have any powers. Okay, that's that's that
Speaker 1: is very wrong, right, And then it made me wonder
Speaker 1: if you watched like an episode where he's like losing
Speaker 1: his powers or something. I don't know. Um, it is
Speaker 1: a far more abstract concept to be like telepathic doesn't
Speaker 1: have any powers for a five year old Ian Wolverine
Speaker 1: is clear the band's got claws. So then we have
Speaker 1: this new bathroom obviously, and Brian was showing his friend
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and he showed him the new lock
Speaker 1: on the door and he goes, there's a lock here
Speaker 1: in case you need privacy. And his friend pulled down
Speaker 1: his pants and his underwear and said, yeah, I do
Speaker 1: need privacy, and then he closed the door. Does it
Speaker 1: look like I need privacy? Never gets old to me
Speaker 1: that are all of these kids are like I need
Speaker 1: some privacy and then can you come wipe my butt? Um?
Speaker 1: Maybe it is obsessed where she has to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and she goes, Daddy, I have to go
Speaker 1: potty and I don't need help, and I need privacy
Speaker 1: and I need you to when I'm done, but I
Speaker 1: want to flush the toilet. Yeah. She does a long
Speaker 1: monologue every time she has to and I just go.
Speaker 1: Sometimes she says I do need help and I don't
Speaker 1: need privacy, and she just like mixing. She's like, what
Speaker 1: do I feel like? Yeah? But either way she feels
Speaker 1: like she has to give us a long update on
Speaker 1: the status of going potty. I have one more important
Speaker 1: thing to say before we have in this segment, which
Speaker 1: is last last week. I did have one last thing,
Speaker 1: which is his friend later said Donald Trump is a
Speaker 1: mean president. We don't know if he's going to be
Speaker 1: fired or not. I thought that was really smart. I've
Speaker 1: been avoiding the topic with brand altogether. I know our
Speaker 1: kids don't really understand it. Our kids don't know who
Speaker 1: the president. I feel with Brandon would be cannan worms
Speaker 1: because he will start saying much more. That's exactly why.
Speaker 1: Because he's going to start saying things as if he
Speaker 1: is the authority on it. I'm like, that's the problem
Speaker 1: with our country. And then he gets create he has
Speaker 1: creative license with it like you, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden he's saying things like a man can't marry a man.
Speaker 1: You really made it sound like that's something I say, no,
Speaker 1: but it's something our son has said. Now it's time
Speaker 1: for did you know this Holy crap? We got big news.
Speaker 1: It's a new segment. Crap. This segment is called holy crap. Okay,
Speaker 1: we we feel bad because we're very honest on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been hiding something. There's really been
Speaker 1: a very big topic that we have not been talking about,
Speaker 1: mostly because we didn't want to tell our friends just
Speaker 1: because we didn't know what was happening. We wanted to
Speaker 1: know it's really happening before we had everyone's input an opinion.
Speaker 1: This also just realized we said a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: in the first segment that we're active basically lies. What
Speaker 1: we were just talking about space and how someday we'll
Speaker 1: be able to deal with it. That wasn't lies. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a lie. It was misleading. Okay, Well, the news
Speaker 1: is that we're buying a house. We're moving. We're moving,
Speaker 1: We're moving back to Brooklyn. Holy holy wrap the jolly
Speaker 1: holy cow. It's yeah, it's crazy, but we're s could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been stressed about it. We've been processing that it's
Speaker 1: really happening. I still don't fully in my mind, believe
Speaker 1: that it's happening, but theoretically it is happening. We've gotten
Speaker 1: the contract looks good. Everyone loves to hear about the
Speaker 1: legal detail. It's it's really been a big hole in
Speaker 1: the podcast, and that really all I'm thinking about is this,
Speaker 1: and then I have to think. I can feel like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't talk about that, so I gotta think about
Speaker 1: something else. Yeah, it's been consuming us. Um, but we
Speaker 1: so we're moving into a property that requires a lot
Speaker 1: of renovations, so we won't be moving until the fall.
Speaker 1: So now we found a new thing to be stressed about.
Speaker 1: So tonight to make this about parenting. I told our
Speaker 1: kids about the move, yeah, and really specifically, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've told them about it a little bit. Um. I
Speaker 1: showed them their new home. I talked to I also
Speaker 1: talked about schools, and I saw Brin realize that he
Speaker 1: was gonna not be living near his friends anymore, and
Speaker 1: he got very sad for one second. Well then instantly
Speaker 1: he says, like we've talked about this, is like we're
Speaker 1: going to get a home and then we're probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to switch schools. And Britain always says not until
Speaker 1: I'm done with kindergarten. I mean, not until I'm done
Speaker 1: with first grade, then we can move. He changed it now,
Speaker 1: not until Maven's done with the first grade. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he keeps like upping the auntie. He was like, m
Speaker 1: just a little bit longer UM so that's gonna be hard,
Speaker 1: but I think he's young enough that he will instantly
Speaker 1: forget that he lived here and everyone he ever knew.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, well, hopefully we'll keep in touch. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's classic that, like like when you're just about
Speaker 1: to leave somewhere, it starts to get really good and
Speaker 1: like our bathroom is done, and then like we had
Speaker 1: this like crazy like sixty degree weekend, so we're outside
Speaker 1: and I was like actually able to have real conversations
Speaker 1: with like two different neighbors who have two different moms
Speaker 1: who have kids Brind's age, like separately, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I'm having a good time talking to them, because
Speaker 1: like usually when i'm running too them, I'm like running
Speaker 1: to work or something, or I've had toddlers and I'm
Speaker 1: just chasing them and I can't have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: It's like you're like finally get to this point where
Speaker 1: you're like I can like talk to these people. And
Speaker 1: up we moved to the suburbs away from We lived
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn for a long time and then we had
Speaker 1: a baby and we got we got out of Dodge
Speaker 1: and moved to the suburbs and had a baby and
Speaker 1: knew nobody, and you don't meet people until your kids
Speaker 1: in like kindergarten, and then you start meeting other parents
Speaker 1: and having play dates. And like, we're right at that
Speaker 1: point where we're realizing there are friends to be had,
Speaker 1: and we're doing the reverse commute, the reverse exodus of
Speaker 1: what everyone else does is that they have babies in
Speaker 1: New York and then they moved to the suburbs when
Speaker 1: their kids start to go to school. So we everyone
Speaker 1: we know and want to be around, we'll probably immediately
Speaker 1: leave Brooklyn as soon as we get there. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: our friends aren't allowed to have Um that's the rule, friends,
Speaker 1: that's the rule. Friends. Um So yeah, that's exciting and
Speaker 1: um stressful. Oh um. So schools is the big thing.
Speaker 1: Let's gonna say, it's the big thing that that I'm
Speaker 1: now not stressed about, but it's a big thing I have.
Speaker 1: We have to figure out. You gotta check out the
Speaker 1: public school, you gotta check out charter schools, gotta check
Speaker 1: out private schools. We gotta check out all these options
Speaker 1: and then be like, what's good, what's closed, what's possible?
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming. When do we have to apply? This was
Speaker 1: the thing it's our home renovated in time for the
Speaker 1: school year to start. I didn't are We did not
Speaker 1: think we would ever live in New York City ever again.
Speaker 1: Um And before I know, you didn't, I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't really believe we would be able to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: neither did I. This was your idea. And when you
Speaker 1: told me, I said, get out of here. Then I
Speaker 1: screamed at the top of my lungs. And really, every
Speaker 1: single time we have a big life change, like a move,
Speaker 1: I say, hey, I think we should do this thing,
Speaker 1: and presenting you with my research and thoughts and you
Speaker 1: say that's crazy, You're insane, that would never happen. It's
Speaker 1: a bad idea, you stupid idiot. I will say. We
Speaker 1: had some real big fights, but there was we did
Speaker 1: have a really good conversation that I felt great about. Um. Um,
Speaker 1: where like, you know, you are very thoughtful and you
Speaker 1: think through things, and this is something you thought through.
Speaker 1: And I'm also like sort of obsessed with home, like
Speaker 1: the place I live in is very important to me. Yes, actually,
Speaker 1: after this I saw the bathroom got done. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited to not be a part of this renovation. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see what you do. I like the work
Speaker 1: share we've sort of gotten into, which is like we
Speaker 1: we can be cced on emails with people where like
Speaker 1: I tell them what's what in the vision and like
Speaker 1: what needs to be done, and then when they start
Speaker 1: asking like how we're going to pay for things, I'm like,
Speaker 1: my husband will talk to you about that those details,
Speaker 1: Dr mister wallet over not that like like numbers, yuck,
Speaker 1: talk to this guy. I just I just find that
Speaker 1: part so boring. When people are like and now we
Speaker 1: need these contracts signed and notarized, and I'm like, m no, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go find some snacks. Yeah, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think the walls should be blue, and I'm like, where
Speaker 1: does that go on the spreadsheet? I'm in the colors column. Yeah. So, um,
Speaker 1: dramatically unrelated topic. But last week we we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about the band five for Fighting, and I said,
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of comments and emails and text
Speaker 1: from friends about that, and I just want to I
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge that, Um, I did not sing the
Speaker 1: correct song when that Superman song, I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: when you started singing it, it was like not what
Speaker 1: I was thinking. But then as soon as someone starts
Speaker 1: singing a song, you can't picture any other song in
Speaker 1: your mind. And that's just that's small, that upper that small,
Speaker 1: that up har um five for fighting. The tone of
Speaker 1: five for fighting. The band could not match the concept
Speaker 1: of five minutes penalty for fighting? Less? Was that a
Speaker 1: convoluted way to say that something? Again? So like the
Speaker 1: concept of five for fighting, like five minutes five been
Speaker 1: a penalty for fighting in a hockey game. That concept
Speaker 1: You think the soundtrack of that concept is is moll
Speaker 1: that up bard? That's small? Apply you think it'd be
Speaker 1: more like a d top kick Murphy type of what
Speaker 1: are you telling about? You're saying theoretically the soundtrack for
Speaker 1: sitting in a penalty box. The band five for fighting
Speaker 1: the name of the band, right, But that's one of
Speaker 1: their songs, right, But all of their songs, it's this
Speaker 1: one guy, it's not even a band. All of his
Speaker 1: songs are like these real sweet piano singer songwriter things
Speaker 1: that that couldn't be further from the aesthetic of hockey.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Am I crazy? Everything's an illusion? Peter
Speaker 1: Our children like to listen to a band called Queen
Speaker 1: because they sang a song called we Will rock You.
Speaker 1: That is ostensibly a hockey anthem of sports events, and
Speaker 1: yet it is sung by a queer icon. Uh you
Speaker 1: know what, Beth, that is an excellent point. I think
Speaker 1: five for fighting is the opposite of queens. We Will
Speaker 1: rock You. Our kids were, oh, wait, this is something
Speaker 1: funny that have that it completely forgot, which is when
Speaker 1: Brent's friend was here. He was like, hey, Sirie play,
Speaker 1: Oh funk, what is the song. It was like, it's
Speaker 1: not that. It was not we Will Rock You. Why
Speaker 1: did that start playing? Did you put that on? No? You? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you said, hey Sirie, right right, But I didn't
Speaker 1: say play we will rock you. We were talking about
Speaker 1: it earlier. Okay do you guys? Yeah, stop we can't.
Speaker 1: We don't have the rights for this. Stop it. It's
Speaker 1: too long. Oh this is a disaster. Wait so okay,
Speaker 1: so wait wait that made no sense. So I was
Speaker 1: trying to remember the song. So he kept your custing
Speaker 1: this song by Imagine Dragon and he was like it
Speaker 1: was just so funny to see like a five year old.
Speaker 1: He kept going, hey Sirie, play Believer by Imagine Dragons
Speaker 1: and it was so funny. And then he would just
Speaker 1: dance hey, Sirie stop. So oh my god. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's that song and it's like those things. So
Speaker 1: they he was dancing to that so enthusiastically, and then
Speaker 1: Bryn would try to think of a song, but he
Speaker 1: only knows like one song off the top of his heade,
Speaker 1: which is we Will Rock You. So then they were
Speaker 1: just alternating back and forth between those two songs. So
Speaker 1: then when his friend's dad came to pick him up,
Speaker 1: they all insisted on like dancing to a full song
Speaker 1: in front of him, and they were like, they were like,
Speaker 1: we have to request this again. And then they're all
Speaker 1: like dancing and jumping on the couch and they looked
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Um, they had really all of them had
Speaker 1: really funny dance moves. Um. Yeah, last time we went
Speaker 1: over to his house, there was another boy there, maybe
Speaker 1: it was there. She didn't want to participate, but they
Speaker 1: got a full band. They had a microphone, guitar and
Speaker 1: conga and it was real cute. Yeah, it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were very funny. Brin one of my favorite videos.
Speaker 1: If you'd like to visit my Instagram and scroll all
Speaker 1: the way back to when Brin could barely talk but
Speaker 1: still talk to nonsense words all the time. There's a
Speaker 1: video of him at requesting a song because stop stop clop,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do you stop? Stop cop stop
Speaker 1: stop cop sumptom quap. I'm like, what do you want?
Speaker 1: It was stump stump clop, and I figured out that
Speaker 1: all you saying stump stump clap, and he wanted me
Speaker 1: to play we will rock you. Stump stump clop, stump
Speaker 1: stump clap and figuring that out. It still feels like
Speaker 1: one of the great dad accomplishments of my life was
Speaker 1: so satisfying. Stump stomp kwop by sometimes clap, that's how
Speaker 1: should be called stump stump quap. I think you're going
Speaker 1: to tell them to scroll back and look for the
Speaker 1: video of Maven playing ukulele when she's like one years old.
Speaker 1: How old she's like too. She's doing her little foot
Speaker 1: tap pretending to play. Oh yeah, I'm standing plinking it's
Speaker 1: hard and she's standing next to me trying to tap
Speaker 1: her foot like me. Boy, she's so cute. I rediscovered
Speaker 1: this video on my sister's Instagram this week of the
Speaker 1: Brenn and Maven when they're like two and three or
Speaker 1: like littl er. They're so little, they're like one and two,
Speaker 1: and they're like feeding her friend's dog and they're so
Speaker 1: adorable and chunky, and they're clapping because the dog's eating food.
Speaker 1: And then Brin is so excited that he goes to
Speaker 1: hug Maven and like tackles her to the ground and
Speaker 1: they're just they're so adorable and round there there. I
Speaker 1: can't I never had siblings that close to in age,
Speaker 1: and it's only two of them, so I feel like
Speaker 1: they are going to be close in a way that
Speaker 1: I can't relate to well that I feel it feels
Speaker 1: very similar to me and my brother. To me, because
Speaker 1: me and my brother were almost exactly two years apart
Speaker 1: in Britain, man or twenty months, and it's just like
Speaker 1: there's something about that closeness where it's like the two
Speaker 1: of them just can't imagine a life without each other,
Speaker 1: you know. And then you're just like that person you're
Speaker 1: sibling dynamic with, that person is just such an enormous
Speaker 1: part of who you are, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: likely boy, and it's it's gonna be different. Like my
Speaker 1: older brother is like three and a half four years
Speaker 1: older than me, and my little bit of six years.
Speaker 1: And so there's all these phases of my childhood where
Speaker 1: I'm close with this one and that one, but it's
Speaker 1: not the same. I feel like it's being so close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh boy, we gotta we gotta move. Of we had
Speaker 1: to move, I like, yeah, we're not going to move
Speaker 1: for at least six or seven months, but I'm already
Speaker 1: stressed about moving. Well, that's all the stuff that we
Speaker 1: need to throw away because this apartment is too cluttered.
Speaker 1: Then it's also like, wow, we're gonna have more space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's like we're never gonna wish we had that stuff.
Speaker 1: There's just too much stuff. It's true. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a way bigger place and then before
Speaker 1: you know it, it's just full of stuff. Well, the
Speaker 1: basement of this house currently is a horder level of
Speaker 1: just absolute garbage. It could be worse. It's just not
Speaker 1: organized in any way. It's just someone was like and
Speaker 1: none of the lights work and anyway, it's fine anyway,
Speaker 1: Wish us luck, wish us luck. Um, you can send
Speaker 1: housewarming gifts to know we know spot at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Please never do um yeah, um, so yeah, so we will.
Speaker 1: We can stop lying to you. Now, stop the lies.
Speaker 1: It's happening. I guess now we have to tell everyone.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was happening, but now the secrets
Speaker 1: out and the whole world knows. Yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I told sure if this deal doesn't fall through, it's
Speaker 1: true if we don't sign this, I was just waiting
Speaker 1: until we sign the contract. But we're a couple of
Speaker 1: days away from that. Anyway, fun stuff we talk more about.
Speaker 1: The contract has been we knows. Holy crap, that's there's
Speaker 1: an announcement. This next segment is called Listeners Want to Knows.
Speaker 1: This is where we take questions and comments from you guys.
Speaker 1: All right, um, we have an email from a listener. Um,
Speaker 1: Dear Beth and Peter, apologizing advanced for the super long email,
Speaker 1: but I was wondering if you had any advice or
Speaker 1: know of any resources for coping after a miscarriage. I'm
Speaker 1: thirty two and this would have would have been my
Speaker 1: first pregnancy. I knew I was pregnant right after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: but didn't tell my husband until I was five weeks
Speaker 1: because I wanted to surprise him with the gift that
Speaker 1: hadn't arrived yet. Uh darn, Etsy and mail delivery. When
Speaker 1: I told him, he was so excited, as was I.
Speaker 1: Our lives had changed forever with the news. I had
Speaker 1: had spotting since implantation and more one sided pain, but
Speaker 1: the doctor did a scan and saw everything looked good.
Speaker 1: In week four. Halfway through week six, though, I woke
Speaker 1: up to what looked like a period and got scared.
Speaker 1: Called the dock and they were able to see me
Speaker 1: that afternoon. We're able to see a heartbeat, but it
Speaker 1: was too slow, and at that time the doctor couldn't
Speaker 1: tell if it had just started beating or if it
Speaker 1: was the beginning of a miscarriage. They told me to
Speaker 1: go home and keep an eye on my symptoms and
Speaker 1: if things got worse to let them know. They gave
Speaker 1: me the outs of it would be a viable pregnancy
Speaker 1: chance of miscarriage. Christmas Eve, I had a miscarriage at home,
Speaker 1: just five days after the last visit to my doctor.
Speaker 1: My husband was there to help me through the pain
Speaker 1: and motions of it all. I called my sister, who
Speaker 1: is currently pregnant with her first child but it also
Speaker 1: had a miscarriage before that, to have a little more
Speaker 1: support from someone who's been through it. I told very
Speaker 1: few people about what happened, but didn't feel much better
Speaker 1: after shockingly being told things happened for a reason and
Speaker 1: what will be will be didn't make me feel like
Speaker 1: I had any relief. My husband has been struggling with
Speaker 1: it also. He said he didn't have enough time to
Speaker 1: process everything about the pregnancy before was over. He said
Speaker 1: it was like someone handed him a picture of the
Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel where he knew
Speaker 1: the endpoint was a baby, but it was still the beginning,
Speaker 1: but then someone took the picture away, uh, soon after
Speaker 1: he got it. The time of year also didn't help
Speaker 1: with the stress and emotions because all during Christmas I
Speaker 1: kept seeing everyone's beautiful bumps all of her Facebook, and
Speaker 1: it brought back all my emotions. Anyway, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys had any advice or words of wisdom.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, love what you do. Bethany Wow. Um. First
Speaker 1: of all, we're so sorry to hear that happen to you. Um.
Speaker 1: I I don't know if I have like any like
Speaker 1: amazing advice for her, aside from just like trying. I
Speaker 1: think anyone who's going through anything like this should make
Speaker 1: as much space for themselves as they need to process
Speaker 1: and grieve it, and it sounds like she's doing that.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if there's particular triggers like
Speaker 1: social media, that she can let herself off the hook
Speaker 1: for that or you know, events like she you know,
Speaker 1: she doesn't. Yeah, I feel like social media wa be
Speaker 1: particularly unhelpful. Yeah, and it's not. You can't always really
Speaker 1: predict where the triggers are going to come from in
Speaker 1: your life. But um, yeah, I think she should, you know,
Speaker 1: let herself feel her feelings and be upset. And I
Speaker 1: think it's good like that she sent this email, whether
Speaker 1: she wants to be more public about it or not,
Speaker 1: I think talking about it with whoever you're comfortable talking
Speaker 1: about it with is really good to help you move
Speaker 1: through and process what happened and acknowledge, because they think
Speaker 1: if you're not acknowledging the weight of something like this
Speaker 1: then how it's affected you, then that keeps you more
Speaker 1: stuck there and the emotion. Yeah, and it's and I'm
Speaker 1: I am sure as as she described this email, that
Speaker 1: that people around you also, you know, don't don't necessarily
Speaker 1: know how to support you because it's not simple, it's
Speaker 1: not a thing, it's not a thing to be fixed.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure you're getting a lot of as
Speaker 1: you mentioned those like everything happens for a reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And people say some stuff all the time to everyone
Speaker 1: about things that they don't realize are super triggering. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why sometimes I think it's not that
Speaker 1: you know, it should always like, not that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: expect people around you to make space for you, because
Speaker 1: you should, But that's why sometimes I think it is
Speaker 1: good to just like take a break from people in
Speaker 1: situations that might be draining for you and just like
Speaker 1: take care of yourself when you're in a vulnerable position.
Speaker 1: And it's a it's it's I would imagine, and I
Speaker 1: have not, We've been fortunate enough to not go through this, ah.
Speaker 1: But how confusing it is because this is this is
Speaker 1: a you know, ah, you're grieving the loss of a
Speaker 1: person that you never met, and so this this person
Speaker 1: exists in your in your head and we you know,
Speaker 1: when when people are pregnant, when we are pregnant, you
Speaker 1: of course can't help but invest in this this this
Speaker 1: baby that you have and that you're going to have
Speaker 1: with them. Yeah, and and even you don't know them yet,
Speaker 1: but suddenly you lose them. You lose that that person
Speaker 1: that you've developed, that you've invested, you've built a relationship
Speaker 1: um with somebody that you've imagined for the most part,
Speaker 1: and it's you still go through a grieving period, but
Speaker 1: you can't. Yeah, I think I think people in our
Speaker 1: culture are not taught to be patient with theirselves when
Speaker 1: they're vulnerable or being like when they're sometimes we all
Speaker 1: are turned into a mess, like we're just not like
Speaker 1: we everyone should get a pass at some point to
Speaker 1: be no longer relied upon, or to have bad days
Speaker 1: or to you know, like just things get bad and
Speaker 1: you're allowed to just acknowledge that and like let it
Speaker 1: envelope you temporarily. And I think it's especially true for women,
Speaker 1: but it's also true for men in the sense of
Speaker 1: like this toxic masculinity thing where it's like the fact
Speaker 1: that it's hit her hitting her husband hard. I think
Speaker 1: like people would not necessarily expect that or consider that.
Speaker 1: It's like there's it's a weird double edged sword because
Speaker 1: like people expect men to be so tough, but then
Speaker 1: they're also so much more sympathetic to men in certain situations.
Speaker 1: I remember reading the Facebook post of this man I
Speaker 1: know who's grieving his teenage daughter, and how while while
Speaker 1: they were grieving so many he said, seemingly so many
Speaker 1: more people would come and empathize with him, and like
Speaker 1: sort of like, I think, because we see women in
Speaker 1: these sort of caretaker roles that sometimes we sort of
Speaker 1: just assume they'll like suck it up and hold it together.
Speaker 1: But then in other ways we also expect men to
Speaker 1: hold it together and not express emotions that are not anger.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just like very complicated. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: know that I've been guilty of this, and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: my impulse has always been too fix a problem, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I think when when I've had people around
Speaker 1: me who just have grief or are just have gone
Speaker 1: through something sad, especially when I was younger, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd go into that mode of like, well, here's what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, you know. It's just like and it
Speaker 1: is that mode of here's here's how you get through this,
Speaker 1: as in now I'm older and wiser, and and no
Speaker 1: at least that like, oh no, it's worth it's not
Speaker 1: my problem to solve, and this is not a solvable problem.
Speaker 1: This is just something it needs to be experienced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not really comfortable in our culture with like sitting
Speaker 1: with painful emotion. It's not like it's not acceptable like
Speaker 1: everyone's supposed to like rush off and do something or
Speaker 1: drink something or you know. Like yeah, but also and
Speaker 1: also not everyone grieves the same way and what people
Speaker 1: who are grieving, I don't always know what they need,
Speaker 1: and it's it changes moment to moment. And so yeah, well,
Speaker 1: one thing that I think is really interesting, I can't
Speaker 1: remeber if I talked about this, but um, the same
Speaker 1: man I was talking about who lost his daughter, had
Speaker 1: sort of a blog on her. She she had cancer
Speaker 1: and she died from cancer. And then he was posting
Speaker 1: on there's sort of like a caring something website where
Speaker 1: you can give updates on people and some I think
Speaker 1: some people continue to update after their death. And it
Speaker 1: was actually really nice to hear him thoughtfully reflecting on
Speaker 1: his experience because it's such a dark period that people
Speaker 1: don't really talk about out and he was talking about
Speaker 1: how they and his wife were working with a therapist
Speaker 1: and how that's really good because people are so just
Speaker 1: like spent during that period and can really use like
Speaker 1: any help they can get, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: how they're when you're grieving, you lose some of your
Speaker 1: like executive function ability, like your your day to day processing.
Speaker 1: You can't You're just like not you're kind of just
Speaker 1: like sunked out in a weird way because obviously you're
Speaker 1: just in a state of shock, but then also you're
Speaker 1: like dealing with the most stressful thing ever and a
Speaker 1: lot of times people are trying to execute a will
Speaker 1: and plan a funeral, and like it's just like there's
Speaker 1: so much on top of you while you're in the
Speaker 1: state where you can barely function. And then he was
Speaker 1: also talking about how there is there's this really interesting thing.
Speaker 1: I had to find the blog and I get share it,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember the link. It was like a
Speaker 1: very random, like psychologist blog, but there was this thing
Speaker 1: talking about how when we when something bad happens, we
Speaker 1: resort to one of several coping mechanisms. And so when
Speaker 1: you're in a state of prolonged grief, where your your
Speaker 1: brain continues to try to solve the problem, you start
Speaker 1: to cycle through coping mechanisms, and so you might like
Speaker 1: fixate on one and just like keep attempting it over
Speaker 1: and over again. But it's like, you know, all of
Speaker 1: all of your normal coping mechanisms of like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't whatever like go eat food, drink like you
Speaker 1: know whatever, thing like I'm trying. There's like I think
Speaker 1: like hyper productivity is one for some people, like you
Speaker 1: know how some people they're like they gain a sense
Speaker 1: of control from like workaholism or whatever they need to
Speaker 1: have something to do to And I do feel like
Speaker 1: sometimes you almost see that with people who are like
Speaker 1: the second someone dies, it feels like they're like starting
Speaker 1: like a charity or like they're like put pouring themselves
Speaker 1: into trying to make a meaning of the death. And
Speaker 1: like not that there's anything wrong with that inherently, but
Speaker 1: so I feel like I understand that that, like the
Speaker 1: feeling like you have something needs to be done. Yea.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just really interesting how like it was.
Speaker 1: I think he was talking about how it all played
Speaker 1: into like why when people lose a child, their relationships
Speaker 1: tend to fall apart like very often. And I think
Speaker 1: when you have two people whose brains are trying to
Speaker 1: process all of this and who are sort of flailing
Speaker 1: and like trying to make sense of their lives and
Speaker 1: like just making erratic decisions and being like sort of
Speaker 1: out of it, like it's just so overwhelming, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that you have to find a new It makes you
Speaker 1: confront what has meaning because when you suddenly lose something,
Speaker 1: ah that it was very meaningful for you, I feel
Speaker 1: like that meaning needs to get redirected to something else
Speaker 1: for some people. Yeah. Um. And so it is also
Speaker 1: that like, oh, I'm going to do something about this
Speaker 1: because it needs to have been for a reason. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, or you become like nihilist, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's like a lot of ways, sort of like a
Speaker 1: very specific thing. Um, but yeah, it's like that's why
Speaker 1: you know, people should be gentle with themselves and hopefully
Speaker 1: they have people they can turn to and talk to,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think in situations like this,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: you almost want to liken it to like having a newborn,
Speaker 1: like when your brain and you're like when your body
Speaker 1: is like physically and mentally preoccupied with something, like it's
Speaker 1: just it's going to consume and impair you for a while.
Speaker 1: And if you're like if you're functioning at like a
Speaker 1: d plus like that's good for where you're at right now,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just like you don't need to
Speaker 1: be like you can phone your life in a little
Speaker 1: bit temporarily, and and and people trying to support that person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more and more I've realized that like being there for somebody,
Speaker 1: um really should mean just that is just being around
Speaker 1: as opposed to I'm here for you? What can I do?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna And it's hard not to try
Speaker 1: to solve it, like when especially when you see someone
Speaker 1: in like deep pain, like it's really that's all of
Speaker 1: our knee jerk reaction. It's like what can I get you?
Speaker 1: What can I do? Like you know, um, I'm working
Speaker 1: on listening. Obviously, I'm relating this to myself. I'm too
Speaker 1: afraid to ask people questions and um yeah, but the
Speaker 1: sometimes suppecially can do feel like that's really bad. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a friend recently that I went through a
Speaker 1: negative thing and I'm so so practical and I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: here's the you know, here's here's what we can do
Speaker 1: and all that, and and then later this person told
Speaker 1: me he's it was like, you know, I sort of
Speaker 1: wish you just told me like, yeah, that sucks. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: And I was like I sort of skipped that and
Speaker 1: and went right to the it's going to be okay.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you know what, it sucks. They said
Speaker 1: that to you. I wish you'd told me that sucks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very politely, but it was very honest. I appreciated it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I skipped that and I went
Speaker 1: straight onto the looking ahead. Yeah. Well, sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to feel people out and it's hard, like you have
Speaker 1: to take a beat to be like, is this person
Speaker 1: in a place where they want to here it's going
Speaker 1: to be okay? Or do they want to hear that sucks?
Speaker 1: Sometimes like sometimes they're trying to move through and they
Speaker 1: do need someone to be like it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's me. Oh my phone just said it's fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes to bedtime. That's me and I need to work
Speaker 1: on the just saying that that sucks. Yeah, well we
Speaker 1: all do. Um, well, thank you very much Bethany for
Speaker 1: writing in. Um yeah, thank you for sharing that with us.
Speaker 1: Um we're we're we're thinking about you, and uh we
Speaker 1: sent you all of our love and support and UM,
Speaker 1: I don't I hope you hope you have the space
Speaker 1: and the people you need. UM to give you what
Speaker 1: you need when you need it, even if you don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, Well, that's gonna do it. This
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