Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're
Speaker 1: listening to popping Off.
Speaker 2: We are talking too hot to handle and we know
Speaker 2: that we thought well as you knows, as the kids
Speaker 2: call it, th was, you know, we weren't as obsessed
Speaker 2: as we are now. Now we're hooked.
Speaker 3: Okay. Episode six had me. I cried. I shed some tears.
Speaker 1: What part the womb.
Speaker 3: And the mom the womb and the mom messages to
Speaker 3: their sons. I was like, I was crying, I have boys.
Speaker 3: I don't know you have you have a son?
Speaker 2: Did nothing nothing, one bit of an emotion, no nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't like that well, especially once they left the
Speaker 1: womb and.
Speaker 2: They didn't change anything about one thing that they did,
Speaker 2: and I was like those wombs. But before we get
Speaker 2: into the wombs, we have some headlines we need to discuss. Yes,
Speaker 2: this first one is we're going you know, of course,
Speaker 2: we're back to Vanderpump, rules of it All and the
Speaker 2: valley and blah blah blah. This most recent one I
Speaker 2: just saw on Instagram like two minutes ago. I do
Speaker 2: not know if this is true, but we saw that
Speaker 2: the reason why Jacks is not filming other than being
Speaker 2: in the rehab and Sheena and la La are is
Speaker 2: because Jack's got the boot? Do we believe this to
Speaker 2: be true?
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would believe that. I feel
Speaker 3: like that's one of those I get the boo every
Speaker 3: year too, so I feel like maybe that's one of
Speaker 3: those false rumors. I don't see. I feel like Jack's
Speaker 3: is the heart of the Valley and it was very successful,
Speaker 3: so I don't think you can get rid of that.
Speaker 1: Well, what this Instagram? Now?
Speaker 2: Whoever posted this? I'm sorry, I don't know. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was Queens of Bravo. I don't know who posted. I
Speaker 2: saw on the airplane just now. But what they're saying
Speaker 2: is Britain Knee will make the decision once he's out
Speaker 2: of rehab if she wants him back or not, so
Speaker 2: she has producer. I don't get Oh here it is Jack's. Oh,
Speaker 2: this is from Okay. Jack's absolutely was not fired from
Speaker 2: the Valley, an inside source to the Okay magazine, the
Speaker 2: inside source being Jacks just kidding. This source outright denied
Speaker 2: the rumor that Lala and she Know were meant to
Speaker 2: replace Jack. The Vanner Pump Rules Stars presence reportedly had
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with Jack's okay, but we didn't
Speaker 2: see Jacks and we still have it.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know. We're probably didn't we say previously
Speaker 3: we thought they were just filling in a little while.
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's getting his shit together.
Speaker 1: Well is well?
Speaker 2: This next one is the Ariono Maddox reveals Sheena Sheha
Speaker 2: friendship status. This is from an Usweekly article. After the
Speaker 2: intense van of Pump Rules Season eleven reunion, Ariono Maddox
Speaker 2: and Sina Chay's friendship is officially in covery mode. Maddox
Speaker 2: was quizzed about Shay during the Tuesday, August thirteen episode
Speaker 2: of Watch What Happens Live with host Andy Cohen, asking
Speaker 2: Maddox if she had been in touch with Sena as
Speaker 2: of late.
Speaker 1: I saw this, She's like here and there. Then Cohen dug.
Speaker 2: Deeper, following his first question with would you say that
Speaker 2: your friendship took a big hit after the reunion? She's like, yes,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of love there and it will
Speaker 2: always be there. And I'm really happy if she just
Speaker 2: won an award for talking about her postpartum in OCD
Speaker 2: and I thought that was like really really lovely and
Speaker 2: the same watch What Happens Live appearance, Ariana inferred that
Speaker 2: Love Island USA is Connor Newsom and Katie Maloney might
Speaker 2: not be a good match. After all, you don't watch
Speaker 2: Love Island, but I told you that from the beginning.
Speaker 3: Why are the red flags with him?
Speaker 2: No, Connor is just like the most like Katie used
Speaker 2: to be with Schwartz. So I think the Schwartz or
Speaker 2: Schwartz as we like to call him, Schwartz could like
Speaker 2: at least be fun and funny and like over the top.
Speaker 2: Connor was not fun. No, no personality, no personality, handsome guy,
Speaker 2: but that's it now. No, So I can't imagine, but
Speaker 2: she said. After Connor was publicly spotted out on a
Speaker 2: date with Katie and Katie confirmed the date during an
Speaker 2: episode of her podcast, Aria confirmed that Katie and Connor's
Speaker 2: date did not turn into anything more.
Speaker 3: Well, it'd be like going on a date with Christian.
Speaker 3: I could go on a date with Christian. I find
Speaker 3: him really cute, and I think he has a cute personality.
Speaker 3: Although he's barely in the episode. I feel like the
Speaker 3: camera just accidentally pans to him every once in a while,
Speaker 3: and he's just on the background. I like him. I
Speaker 3: thought he was cute.
Speaker 2: Emily Well, I feel like like Christian and Elizabeth Vargas
Speaker 2: were in the episode the same amount of time.
Speaker 3: I know, I said he wasn't in the episode. He
Speaker 3: accidentally ended up on camera when the camera just panned
Speaker 3: over him. It was like sitting on a bed or something.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's that bad. I thought he was.
Speaker 2: I think he's kind of cute. No, ma'am, well, I can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, some of my picks and now
Speaker 2: my pick at the beginning. He's ruined after watching the finale.
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that later. But Lala can't wait
Speaker 2: on Jack's Taylor seeking mental health treatment. Laala can't share
Speaker 2: that the van of pump rules alum entering in patient
Speaker 2: treatment for his mental health struggles last month was the
Speaker 2: right move for him, and it's a strange wife.
Speaker 1: Britney cart right.
Speaker 2: Brittany and I are very close and we speak often
Speaker 2: about a lot of things, including Jack's exclusively told the
Speaker 2: Post on Thursday, and anytime anybody goes out and decides
Speaker 2: to get help, no matter what the reasoning, of course,
Speaker 2: I'm going to stand by them.
Speaker 1: On hundred percent.
Speaker 2: This is interesting that her and Brittany have made up
Speaker 2: because when we had La La on the twat Seed
Speaker 2: or on to Teason a Pod, I can't remember which
Speaker 2: one it was, she and Brittany were not talking. They
Speaker 2: had gotten a fight over a babysitter dispute.
Speaker 3: Oh I remember the babysitter dispute. It sounded very petty.
Speaker 3: It was like somebody use somebody's babysitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like Britney was out of town
Speaker 2: and so Lala had used their shared babysitter to have
Speaker 2: her baby shower, so there was like someone to help.
Speaker 2: And then during the baby shower Britney texted Lala's mom
Speaker 2: and said like, why are you using I'm just going
Speaker 2: to make up her name Michelle, you know, like wow,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And it's like, come on right, you're
Speaker 2: not even here. Were you going to use her?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you, do you think Jacks is
Speaker 3: in this mental health treatment because he's committed to it
Speaker 3: or do you think he does it as a way
Speaker 3: to back out of when you get a lot of
Speaker 3: negative press and then you're just like go in to
Speaker 3: kind of hide out and make it look like you're
Speaker 3: trying to work on yourself.
Speaker 2: I think he's always gotten pretty negative press, but I
Speaker 2: think the fact that he now has a child. As
Speaker 2: for the stay and rehab, the Stars rep said, Jack
Speaker 2: has always been candid about his mental health struggles, especially
Speaker 2: during the past few months on his podcast. He has
Speaker 2: made the decision to seek inpatient treatment. This is a
Speaker 2: particularly sensitive time for him and his family. They ask
Speaker 2: for privacy and respect until he is ready to speak
Speaker 2: more on this matter. So as now you go ahead
Speaker 2: and give your thoughts, as he just asked for privacy,
Speaker 2: Now go ahead.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Emily, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Did not know that before. But no, well it sounds
Speaker 3: like it's it sounds like he's really trying to get help.
Speaker 3: And he does have a son, so that's good for him.
Speaker 3: But he's true.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's wanting to try to.
Speaker 2: Get back with Brittany, and she's always asked him to
Speaker 2: get help. So we will respect their privacy until we
Speaker 2: get more information.
Speaker 3: That means you can't talk about it anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, no, of course we're going to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but until next week when but.
Speaker 3: They asked for us to not talk about it.
Speaker 2: They didn't actually ask us, They just asked the world,
Speaker 2: which like, unless you're gonna wish we are part of
Speaker 2: Emily and Teddy, please zip it. Like, if you're talking
Speaker 2: about it on your podcast, then you're no longer getting
Speaker 2: privacy for it in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Lisa Vanner Pump denies Peter Madrigal claims she rebranded Tom
Speaker 3: Tom to Pump It was a Yahoo article the restaurant
Speaker 3: restauranteur shut down Madrigal's speculation about the future of Tom Tom,
Speaker 3: adding hadn't thought about rebranding it all, but thanks for
Speaker 3: the idea, Peter, lol. Vanner Pump also made it clear
Speaker 3: that she's focused on opening new businesses instead of reimagining
Speaker 3: her existing ones. We've been hard at work on pinkies
Speaker 3: at the Flamingo in Las Vegas, she concluded. Does he
Speaker 3: want to change the name of that too?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think he doesn't work there anymore.
Speaker 2: I think he was their manager for a lot of
Speaker 2: years and he's probably a little bit worked up. So
Speaker 2: he's going to give shade whenever he can give shade.
Speaker 1: But are you going to be heading to pinkies anytime soon?
Speaker 3: Wait? Where is it at the Flamingas Vegas? I've never
Speaker 3: been to the Flamingo. It's not one of my it's
Speaker 3: not one of the top hotels I want to stay.
Speaker 3: And when I go to Vegas, it's not like what
Speaker 3: I automatically think of when we're going to head to Vegas.
Speaker 4: You know, I need to hit us the Flamingo. We're
Speaker 4: back to too hot to handle.
Speaker 2: The episode starts, everyone's woken up and Lucy tries to
Speaker 2: kiss Charlie, but he dodges her.
Speaker 3: How awkward is that with us knowing that he's not
Speaker 3: into her, but she doesn't know. I feel badly for her.
Speaker 1: How did she not know?
Speaker 3: She just doesn't know. She has no idea. She thinks
Speaker 3: he's being respectful.
Speaker 2: You really think, like honestly, Lucy, in the stretch of
Speaker 2: any part of your imagination, you think that there is
Speaker 2: a chance that Charlie's being respectful.
Speaker 3: That's what she thinks.
Speaker 2: No, But then Lucy and Louie both say they have
Speaker 2: received no cuddles last night. They think it's because Charlie
Speaker 2: and Catherine want a deeper connection with them.
Speaker 1: They're very wrong.
Speaker 3: I like how it also shows Catherine and Charlie like
Speaker 3: giving each other like the side eye, you know, like
Speaker 3: the flirties back, like.
Speaker 1: They can't even help themselves.
Speaker 2: But then Gianna can't help it and she spills the
Speaker 2: tea that she had a dream about Louie last night.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Gianna just wants some aritime.
Speaker 3: No, She's like, what do I have to do to
Speaker 3: get into these episodes?
Speaker 1: I know She's like not and it can't be Christian.
Speaker 3: I guess not. Poor guy. I'm surprised they haven't kicked
Speaker 3: him out yet.
Speaker 2: Well, then Lana reminds the group to be honest with
Speaker 2: the person that romantically involved with, obviously referring to Catherine
Speaker 2: and Charlie, and then Chris going not you bro to
Speaker 2: Lana as if she isn't the entire point of the
Speaker 2: show like Lana is.
Speaker 3: He's like, stop talking, zip it, zip it.
Speaker 2: Then we get Katherine and Charlie both decide to have
Speaker 2: conversations with their partners as soon as possible, but their
Speaker 2: conversations were very different.
Speaker 3: They were I mean, I give Catherine credit. I mean
Speaker 3: she it took her a while to get there and
Speaker 3: it was kind of awkward, but she did get to
Speaker 3: the point and she did let him know that she
Speaker 3: was interested in Charlie or yeah, Charlie, Yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't be mad at Catherine like Katherine. Also, we
Speaker 2: don't know how many days they've been there. Let's guess seven.
Speaker 2: I mean not many, I don't think right, And She's
Speaker 2: just like, listen, Louis, from the beginning, clearly we have
Speaker 2: just had sexual chemistry, and now I have sexual chemistry
Speaker 2: more with Charlie and I'm done.
Speaker 1: But then, why can't Charlie.
Speaker 2: Just be slightly more honest with Lucy?
Speaker 1: Just in touch.
Speaker 3: I like how he just starts it, but he's way
Speaker 3: too it's too many compliments. She's just like all warm
Speaker 3: and fuzzy, like he made it a million times worse.
Speaker 3: He set her up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, because then she's like, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for being honest with me, and I'm like, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 1: He's actually lying right now.
Speaker 2: He's lying. But the problem is, which we start to
Speaker 2: see uncovered as Louis knows the truth, and so does
Speaker 2: Flavia and Joe Aw and Valentino. So we're pretty sure
Speaker 2: that Lucy's gonna find out sooner rather than later. Then
Speaker 2: our boy to Mario has another conversation with Brie and
Speaker 2: asked to sleep in the same bed with her again,
Speaker 2: there's he doesn't do any sort of like for play
Speaker 2: prior to this conversation. Just do you want to, like,
Speaker 2: let's make up and see.
Speaker 3: He doesn't seem to be a man of many words
Speaker 3: to me, he's a he's a model. Now he a
Speaker 3: stockbroker or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's now he just a model.
Speaker 3: And he just it's like want to sleep in my bed?
Speaker 1: Yeah or.
Speaker 3: No, need to discuss, check this box.
Speaker 2: But also like the thing about sleeping in the beds
Speaker 2: with each other is like I actually would probably rather
Speaker 2: sleep if I wasn't going to be having sex or
Speaker 2: hooking up.
Speaker 1: I'd probably rather just sleep by myself.
Speaker 3: Anyway, it does look crowded, it looks I mean.
Speaker 1: These are full sized beds.
Speaker 2: These are not King These not Cale King's.
Speaker 3: There, No they made Yeah, those are those are doubles.
Speaker 1: They're doubles.
Speaker 2: And then when you see the two guys in the
Speaker 2: same thing together and they're.
Speaker 3: Like over the edge, you know they didn't have a
Speaker 3: comfortable sleep last night.
Speaker 2: Lana thinks the boys in the retreat aren't showing the
Speaker 2: girls the respect they deserve. Then they go to the
Speaker 2: male only workshop and this is where Emila fries.
Speaker 3: I did I found it moving? Shit?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to create a womb box for you?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. No, No, I can do it
Speaker 3: if you want. I would make shame get in it.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't get in it. I'd be like, get in there.
Speaker 1: But also, why did all the guys take their tops
Speaker 1: off except for one of them and the way.
Speaker 3: Who didn't take their top off? Jiao because he's not
Speaker 3: buff I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's the only one that didn't
Speaker 2: strip down. But anyways, they they hear from their mom.
Speaker 2: So this is where we learn that Chris doesn't have
Speaker 2: a close relationship with his mom.
Speaker 3: Wait, I do like how the men don't really know
Speaker 3: the difference between a womb and a vagina.
Speaker 2: Oh no, they think this is this is just like
Speaker 2: a uterine canal.
Speaker 3: Like they just thought they just like climbed into a
Speaker 3: warm vagina. Like they don't understand that there's actually like
Speaker 3: like the womb is pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's listed you know up above. I mean
Speaker 1: the amount of.
Speaker 2: Zero knowledge that all these guys that are supposedly brought
Speaker 2: into this place to like withhold sex have zero idea
Speaker 2: about the female anatomy really shows what sex is going
Speaker 2: to be like with them at the end when they
Speaker 2: think of a China as a womb, right, then they
Speaker 2: get They're sent back to the safest place they've ever been.
Speaker 2: They're having the headphones, they're taking their out fits off.
Speaker 2: Landa held a baby shower for everyone and gave them
Speaker 2: all watches as a gift.
Speaker 3: Oh this is after the womb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is right after the womb.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got the watches.
Speaker 1: Then they got the watches for it.
Speaker 2: So if they get good behavior, then they get to
Speaker 2: have a couple free seconds or free makeout or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, but they have to earn. But the watch only
Speaker 3: turns green if there's something deep going on.
Speaker 2: Right, whatever they learned in their workshop they bring to life.
Speaker 2: So like we thought, Charlie talked a big game inside
Speaker 2: the womb. He said, when I get outside the womb,
Speaker 2: I feel bad about what I did with Lucy. But
Speaker 2: really what I've been doing is thinking about Catherine. Great,
Speaker 2: but still the person you need to go to first
Speaker 2: is Lucy and apologize. But what he did is he
Speaker 2: went straight to Catherine to tell her how much she's
Speaker 2: into her. Where do Mario took a different approach, and
Speaker 2: he went and actually apologized to Brae. So then they
Speaker 2: got to get their little green light watch and make
Speaker 2: out m hm. And then Charlie and Catherine never got
Speaker 2: any lighting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it seems very superficial at this point.
Speaker 1: Well do you also think, I mean not to be rude,
Speaker 1: but did you hear Kylie Sha say one word this episode?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I was not surprised though when they is that the
Speaker 3: next episode, when does she when does she get kicked out?
Speaker 3: It didn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: Like she hasn't gotten a green light.
Speaker 2: She hasn't got I don't even think they give her
Speaker 2: a watch, like they're just okay.
Speaker 3: This is where she played it wrong. Even if you're
Speaker 3: not into one of those guys like Christian or Chris,
Speaker 3: just pretend to be at least do I mean, no
Speaker 3: one else is Like it's not like any of these
Speaker 3: people are going to get married, like just at least
Speaker 3: try to have a connection.
Speaker 2: And she had put in a good I mean, granted
Speaker 2: it didn't work out in her favor, but like Giann
Speaker 2: like at least to up a couple of softballs to
Speaker 2: get herself in the game.
Speaker 3: Right like that, Kaylicia, She's like, oh eh, no, she
Speaker 3: couldn't even He's like, are you are you interested in
Speaker 3: anyone here?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, absolutely no, it's disgusting, including you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, of course Charlie and Catherine kiss even though they
Speaker 2: didn't get the green light. Meanwhile, Lucy's crying, saying she
Speaker 2: wants to leave and she wants her mom. It's a
Speaker 2: rough it's a rough episode for everyone involved.
Speaker 3: Poor Lucy. Did you feel badly for at all? Did
Speaker 3: you have any empathy for her? Or did you just
Speaker 3: think she was a ding dong?
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know that. It's not that
Speaker 2: I didn't have empathy for her. I just don't know
Speaker 2: that she ever was really that into Charlie.
Speaker 3: Charlie.
Speaker 2: I don't into Charlie. I think she just you know,
Speaker 2: I think her, which mine would be as well. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I wouldn't, but I think her ego was hurt.
Speaker 3: You know what My her question is, Okay, so Valentina,
Speaker 3: you know, like the hot, saucy Latina. She was so
Speaker 3: crappy to these women when she first got there, and
Speaker 3: then now they're all best friends. But there has I
Speaker 3: guess I just have the housewife mentality too much, where
Speaker 3: I'm like I don't understand what happened. There was never
Speaker 3: like a conversation. She just shaded everyone when she walked up.
Speaker 3: But now she's integrated with the women and they all
Speaker 3: seem to be friendly.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because when they bring in the bombshells,
Speaker 2: the bombshells are the grenade bring it, Yeah, the grenades.
Speaker 2: I think when they bring in the grenades, the grenades
Speaker 2: are told to bring it, so they bring it. And
Speaker 2: then once they the grenades don't really.
Speaker 3: They pull the pen and then nothing happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then it's like then it's like then it's kind
Speaker 2: of just done. And I think that's what happened Valentina.
Speaker 2: I don't know that she was actually an aw so.
Speaker 2: I think she got on the show because she was like, listen,
Speaker 2: I am going to come on and I'm going to
Speaker 2: bring it. And then one she didn't get anyone with
Speaker 2: bringing it. She was like, well, when am I.
Speaker 3: Gonna I'll just sit over here with these ladies.
Speaker 1: Me and Flavia will.
Speaker 2: Just talk about how she's ready to move on from Joao.
Speaker 2: But then it says, this morning looks a little different
Speaker 2: in their treat A lot of people have switched Catherine
Speaker 2: and Charlie are all over each other, and so are
Speaker 2: Gianna and Louie.
Speaker 3: Louie, he has no self control.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we call it self control.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just also think like he has no
Speaker 2: I think he just wants to make out with anyone
Speaker 2: like he Clearly, I'm not that Gianna is not beautiful,
Speaker 2: but like he has there been anyone he hasn't.
Speaker 3: No, That's why you know you would never feel special
Speaker 3: because the minute you weren't interested anymore, He's just going
Speaker 3: to make out with the person next to you.
Speaker 2: So like that, I at least want to feel like
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit special, even if you're a lying,
Speaker 2: cheating asshole. I want to feel like somehow I was
Speaker 2: right chosen. He needs to get back in the womb.
Speaker 2: He needed to spend more time in the womb, but
Speaker 2: he's about to spend time elsewhere soon. But Gianna is
Speaker 2: talking about how happy she is to have loving in
Speaker 2: her bed, but he tusts her self control. We have
Speaker 2: to also remember in this moment that Louis has cost
Speaker 2: the group sixty four thousand dollars so far. Lana threatens
Speaker 2: the group by telling them she won't allow them to
Speaker 2: make the same mistakes again and she will not tolerate
Speaker 2: phoning in.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you got to show up in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've gotta.
Speaker 1: But then Christian, that's when Christians like shit.
Speaker 2: He tried to by Leicia.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to give the guy credit for trying. No,
Speaker 3: he's trying to get airtime. He's trying to hook up
Speaker 3: with someone.
Speaker 2: But you know how like the kids call like other
Speaker 2: cool kids like Riz, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like Christian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a complete opposite of having any resk.
Speaker 3: I still think he's cute.
Speaker 1: I mean, is he your number one in the in the.
Speaker 3: Number one guy in the group?
Speaker 2: Yes, the number Is he the jacks to you?
Speaker 3: No? But I find him. I think he's cute and
Speaker 3: I think he's sweet. I don't know. I don't understood.
Speaker 2: You rather make up with him or Louis him?
Speaker 3: I don't. Louis doesn't do it for me. Louis is
Speaker 3: just he is. He's just a male prostitute. I like
Speaker 3: to feel special and I feel like Christian. It isn't
Speaker 3: it just Christian? I like how you try to you
Speaker 3: call him Christian.
Speaker 2: Because when he first came on, they called him Christian.
Speaker 2: When he came in as the grenade or the bomb
Speaker 2: shell or whatever. They were like christ Gian and he
Speaker 2: was like with his like hairs in the water, and
Speaker 2: he was like.
Speaker 1: I've never had a rough time with women. I was
Speaker 1: like until all this retreat, until the.
Speaker 2: Last guy booted out after he cried in the hammock.
Speaker 2: But then Lana calls everybody to the cabana. Charlie confesses
Speaker 2: that he and Catherine were the ones to break the rules,
Speaker 2: and then he phrases it as he wanted to do
Speaker 2: so much more than kissing.
Speaker 1: So you're welcome for not doing more.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like how you turn that around?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's what they like to call gaslighting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what that's called.
Speaker 2: Sure, And then as a group, they've almost lost half
Speaker 2: their prize fund. Then Lana calls out Chris and Kylie
Speaker 2: Sha for not making meaningful connections. She kicks Kylisha out
Speaker 2: of the retreat, but she's given Chris a pass for now.
Speaker 3: Is that because he just said in the Womb that
Speaker 3: he wanted to try harder with his mom.
Speaker 2: The fact that you're going to bring everything to the womb,
Speaker 2: like the Womb did one bit of therapy for any
Speaker 2: of these guys is amazing it did.
Speaker 3: I feel like it really changed him.
Speaker 2: Okay, so Chris is a new man after the womb. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's got a pass. He gets to stay Kaylie.
Speaker 2: Sia doesn't get a pass because she's not even she's
Speaker 2: probably already given notice.
Speaker 1: And like flown out. We didn't even just see that part.
Speaker 2: But then Lana calls out Louis and she kicks him
Speaker 2: out of the treat from making the same mistakes repeatedly.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you throw Gianna a bone and then you
Speaker 2: rip him out, like just make him go to the
Speaker 2: thing for paper clips again.
Speaker 3: I know, I was. I was like, why is he
Speaker 3: just not in seclusion?
Speaker 1: Like why can't why can't he just go back there
Speaker 1: and put on his suit and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now Gianna has to start over and she
Speaker 3: doesn't have her best friend anymore. So and I don't
Speaker 3: she should she should try to make it work with Christian.
Speaker 2: But then Joo doesn't want to risk losing Flavia, so
Speaker 2: he pulls her aside to tell her how he feels.
Speaker 2: He says he likes her so much. If she were
Speaker 2: chosen to leave today, he would have left with her.
Speaker 2: And this is where you realize and then they get
Speaker 2: the green light flash and this is where she has
Speaker 2: officially checked out from the relationship.
Speaker 3: She says, I feel the same way, though.
Speaker 1: Well she didn't mean to say it.
Speaker 3: She was like, it was an accident.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that Jiao doesn't want to
Speaker 2: risk losing Flavier? He doesn't want to risk not being
Speaker 2: on the show? Both Christian's still there, but Gianna still
Speaker 2: wouldn't even try for him.
Speaker 3: But she should.
Speaker 1: She has a standards, but if she.
Speaker 3: Wants to stay, she needs to make some effort.
Speaker 2: I don't think there is a way to have a
Speaker 2: conversation with him and be like, I'm into you.
Speaker 3: You don't have to have a conversation just well you
Speaker 3: can't kiss.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
Speaker 3: Just gazing? Oh, we just learned about gazing.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 2: You guys are going to have to tune into a
Speaker 2: later episode regarding secret lives of Mormon wives to learn
Speaker 2: what gazing is.
Speaker 1: Even though actually everything comes full circle.
Speaker 2: Remember when they had the therapy session where they all
Speaker 2: gazed at each other, but they didn't call gazing.
Speaker 3: And they had clothes on, Yeah, but they.
Speaker 1: Just stared at each other, And so there is a difference.
Speaker 2: But see, yeah, okay, Well anyways, then Catherine and Charlie
Speaker 2: have a conversation. Catherine asked what he'd do if a
Speaker 2: grenade came in. Then he was attracted to could he
Speaker 2: be so dumb to say this?
Speaker 3: He's so dumb. I thought he was going to correct it,
Speaker 3: but then he just added like zero point two percent.
Speaker 2: He said, there's ninety nine point five percent chance and
Speaker 2: nothing would happen, but I can't guarantee it.
Speaker 1: And then Kat, clearly, Kath.
Speaker 2: Is not like all you have to do is like
Speaker 2: add in a couple more points, and like then it
Speaker 2: would have been a fine answer.
Speaker 3: Clearly, like he can't. He just can't commit to one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 3: That's a red flag.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I should be impressed
Speaker 2: by Charlie's honesty or shocked at how bad he isn't
Speaker 2: playing this game.
Speaker 1: Like it's I really don't get it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I think I was impressed when
Speaker 3: he even doubled down and it would and just changed
Speaker 3: it to ninety nine point seven from nineteen. Still his life,
Speaker 3: like he's very committed to making sure it's not one.
Speaker 2: He's like I don't want to be a bold faced liar.
Speaker 2: And I can guarantee you if that grenade had one
Speaker 2: thing that he actually wanted, he would have used that
Speaker 2: percentage to be done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was that's how he can back out
Speaker 3: later and not be a jerk. He'd be like, look,
Speaker 3: I told you there was a ninety nine point seven
Speaker 3: percent chance, I'm no liar.
Speaker 2: Listen, buddy, I I mean, listen, kat I let you know.
Speaker 2: But then they wake up the next morning and bad
Speaker 2: Lana is back, Bad Lana, Bad Lana. They wake up
Speaker 2: the next morning and first she calls on Briey. She
Speaker 2: reveals that a grenade is on his way to whisk
Speaker 2: breathe off her feet. Then she calls on Charlie new Le. Charlie,
Speaker 2: the new grenade is taking him out as well. Charlie
Speaker 2: insays he will not be doing anything with the new
Speaker 2: girl because now, all of a sudden, he said it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent with.
Speaker 1: Catherine, he upped it, he opped it, he slept on it,
Speaker 1: and realized that he made mistake.
Speaker 2: That one hundred percent is actually the correct answer.
Speaker 3: Okay. I also was waiting for her to call him
Speaker 3: out on that, and I feel I don't know if
Speaker 3: it was editing or what, but don't you think she
Speaker 3: just looked defeated? She didn't actually say anything to him.
Speaker 2: Well, I think she was so blunt, like dumbfounded that
Speaker 2: he would say such a stupid thing like.
Speaker 1: What, like, what are you going to be?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: But you would have said something if someone said to
Speaker 3: you I'm ninety nine point seven percent sure I won't
Speaker 3: cheat on you. Wouldn't you be like, okay, well then
Speaker 3: you can take a hike.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the reason she didn't was because she
Speaker 2: was like, shit, clearly, there's no one else in this
Speaker 2: house I can share a bed with, which apparently is
Speaker 2: a really big deal, Like who's she going to go
Speaker 2: to Christian Yes, so she's like, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: suck it up and take that small percentage off and
Speaker 2: see what happens. But then they're told they're given a
Speaker 2: twenty four hour free pass. Jalen is a self proclaimed
Speaker 2: alpha that's taking Bri on a date. And then Sabrina,
Speaker 2: who's a literal clone of Catherine. I'm like, just because
Speaker 2: she's brunette does not mean she's a literal clone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she just had long, dark hair like hot bodies and
Speaker 2: long dark hair. So it's half the people on the show.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're clones. Yeah, I mean there's only
Speaker 2: so many options for hair colors.
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I think you're a literal clone of me.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I actually thought that today when we got on
Speaker 2: this zoom, I was like, are you twinning?
Speaker 3: Because we both look like shit?
Speaker 1: Who could look?
Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm a full swell. My air conditioning's
Speaker 2: not working. I just got off a plane after missing
Speaker 2: my plane last night. Like things are unwell over here.
Speaker 2: I smell like dead bodies. I smell like after getting
Speaker 2: out of the like whatever that camp is where they
Speaker 2: hold you with the paper clips. That's how I feel currently.
Speaker 2: But I couldn't miss too hot handle recap clearly No.
Speaker 3: But then.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like, when these grenades come in, do you
Speaker 2: think like producers have a cell phone on them that
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, Charlie, say she's a literal clone, or
Speaker 2: like he just came up with that shit on his own.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you think they they told him to
Speaker 3: say ninety nine points seven percent? I feel like literal
Speaker 3: clone is probably his own language.
Speaker 1: But then Serena's quick to try to tempt.
Speaker 2: Charlie, but I feel like I never felt in chemistry
Speaker 2: with on them on their entire date. But I did
Speaker 2: love that they showed that he uses the same pickup
Speaker 2: line on Lucy and Catherine and then now Sabrina.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I love that montage. That was a
Speaker 3: good one. I like it.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's unintentionally hilarious that I think
Speaker 2: he might have the smallest muscles there of all the
Speaker 2: other kinds. Beside, then Charlie tells her he's not in
Speaker 2: a serious relationship. Catherine has a right to be nervous
Speaker 2: back at their treat then bad Lana gives them a
Speaker 2: feather sex toy, a massage oil, which they both used
Speaker 2: on each other.
Speaker 1: I wasn't turned on by this massage.
Speaker 3: Well. First of all, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 3: sexy a beach is. Like they always they're always meeting
Speaker 3: on the beach. It's sandy and windy, and.
Speaker 2: Like he wants to get oiled on the beach with
Speaker 2: all tho sand's gonna to you.
Speaker 1: It's just a hot champagne.
Speaker 3: Yeah. All I keep thinking about is how gross that
Speaker 3: would feel.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't lie I wouldn't have wanted the feather
Speaker 2: toy or the massage oil. But then Brie is pretending
Speaker 2: she's very attracted to Jalen. He reminds her of one
Speaker 2: of his exes she had a really fun time with.
Speaker 2: I feel like Brie might be playing this up a
Speaker 2: little bit. I think Brie is not into jail in
Speaker 2: one Bed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so either. I think she is
Speaker 3: legitimately attracted to do Mario and makes things want to
Speaker 3: work with him, but she also knows she's on a show,
Speaker 3: so she's playing it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Jalen and Sabrina tell their dates about the
Speaker 2: free pass and they seem to be very interested. But
Speaker 2: then surprisingly Charlie turns down the twenty four hour pass
Speaker 2: with Sabrina, but Brie, on the other hand, decides to
Speaker 2: give in to Jalen. And then Bri and Jalen walk
Speaker 2: back into the retreat holding hands, and then our girl
Speaker 2: val Valadina, she's got to get in there. Yeah, she
Speaker 2: has to yell out and asks did they kiss?
Speaker 3: Did y'all kiss? Did you kiss?
Speaker 2: And then that's when Jamari says he'll be done ifre kissed.
Speaker 3: Ooh, because he has standards.
Speaker 2: Because he kissed Valentina two days ago, right, But and
Speaker 2: then he asked her to sleep in his bed, and
Speaker 2: then he got one green light. But then I don't know, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't ever feel any connection.
Speaker 2: But speaking of connections, the second Jalen walks in, Flavia
Speaker 2: can barely withstain herself. Yeah, like she wanted to have
Speaker 2: a gazing orgasm the second she saw him. And then
Speaker 2: Charlie and Sabrina come back and they're also holding hands.
Speaker 1: I've now realized that you must hold hands when you return.
Speaker 3: I think that is it is, it is in the
Speaker 3: rule book.
Speaker 2: It's like when you're a housewife, they have to show
Speaker 2: you getting out of the car, even though they probably
Speaker 2: won't ever show it, They're going to film you getting
Speaker 2: out of the car.
Speaker 1: No matter what which.
Speaker 3: I was getting ready, there's always the getting ready shots.
Speaker 2: Or like when you have when you're setting up for
Speaker 2: people to come over, like getting the waters, that none
Speaker 2: of that is ever shown. And they'd always be like,
Speaker 2: do you need to like cut lemons or something for
Speaker 2: the water, And I'd be like, no, but I will sure,
Speaker 2: I don't have a limon, but let me grab Onelson.
Speaker 4: But then h.
Speaker 1: Charlie.
Speaker 2: Once Charlie and Sabrina come back, they're also holding cans.
Speaker 2: Katherine is livid, livid. The boys all tell Charlie that
Speaker 2: Catherine was stressed the entire day, and Chris wants to
Speaker 2: make a move on Sabrina, and then Bree tells Damari
Speaker 2: that Jalen tries to kiss her, and we're left.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, the cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: Dubb dug dunk duh.
Speaker 2: Charlie tells Katherine didn't kiss Sabrina, but then we're left
Speaker 2: on a cliffhanger on whether he tells her or not.
Speaker 1: About the massage.
Speaker 2: What do you think he's gonna, Donna.
Speaker 3: He's gonna tell her there was a ninety nine point
Speaker 3: for seven percent chance that there was a massage.
Speaker 2: It's just too good and just like that, guys, now
Speaker 2: we're hooked. So we have three episodes left of Too
Speaker 2: Hot to Handle, So you guys keep tuning in because
Speaker 2: it's quite entertaining, and hopefully in the meantime we will
Speaker 2: continue to get some valley gossip and I'll try to
Speaker 2: find out some news on Sunday at church from Danny
Speaker 2: and Nia. You go to church, Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't want my undergarments, but I do
Speaker 3: Go well all right, but thanks for listening.