1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: listening to popping Off. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: We are talking too hot to handle and we know 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: that we thought well as you knows, as the kids 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: call it, th was, you know, we weren't as obsessed 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: as we are now. Now we're hooked. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: Okay. Episode six had me. I cried. I shed some tears. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: What part the womb. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: And the mom the womb and the mom messages to 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 3: their sons. I was like, I was crying, I have boys. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: I don't know you have you have a son? 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: Did nothing nothing, one bit of an emotion, no nothing. 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: I don't like that well, especially once they left the 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: womb and. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: They didn't change anything about one thing that they did, 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: and I was like those wombs. But before we get 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: into the wombs, we have some headlines we need to discuss. Yes, 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: this first one is we're going you know, of course, 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: we're back to Vanderpump, rules of it All and the 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: valley and blah blah blah. This most recent one I 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: just saw on Instagram like two minutes ago. I do 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: not know if this is true, but we saw that 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: the reason why Jacks is not filming other than being 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: in the rehab and Sheena and la La are is 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: because Jack's got the boot? Do we believe this to 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: be true? 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: I don't know if I would believe that. I feel 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: like that's one of those I get the boo every 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: year too, so I feel like maybe that's one of 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: those false rumors. I don't see. I feel like Jack's 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: is the heart of the Valley and it was very successful, 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: so I don't think you can get rid of that. 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, what this Instagram? Now? 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: Whoever posted this? I'm sorry, I don't know. Maybe it 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: was Queens of Bravo. I don't know who posted. I 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: saw on the airplane just now. But what they're saying 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: is Britain Knee will make the decision once he's out 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: of rehab if she wants him back or not, so 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: she has producer. I don't get Oh here it is Jack's. Oh, 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: this is from Okay. Jack's absolutely was not fired from 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: the Valley, an inside source to the Okay magazine, the 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: inside source being Jacks just kidding. This source outright denied 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the rumor that Lala and she Know were meant to 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: replace Jack. The Vanner Pump Rules Stars presence reportedly had 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing to do with Jack's okay, but we didn't 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: see Jacks and we still have it. 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. We're probably didn't we say previously 48 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: we thought they were just filling in a little while. 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: He's you know, he's getting his shit together. 50 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Well is well? 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: This next one is the Ariono Maddox reveals Sheena Sheha 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: friendship status. This is from an Usweekly article. After the 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: intense van of Pump Rules Season eleven reunion, Ariono Maddox 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: and Sina Chay's friendship is officially in covery mode. Maddox 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: was quizzed about Shay during the Tuesday, August thirteen episode 56 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: of Watch What Happens Live with host Andy Cohen, asking 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: Maddox if she had been in touch with Sena as 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: of late. 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I saw this, She's like here and there. Then Cohen dug. 60 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Deeper, following his first question with would you say that 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: your friendship took a big hit after the reunion? She's like, yes, 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of love there and it will 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: always be there. And I'm really happy if she just 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: won an award for talking about her postpartum in OCD 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: and I thought that was like really really lovely and 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: the same watch What Happens Live appearance, Ariana inferred that 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Love Island USA is Connor Newsom and Katie Maloney might 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: not be a good match. After all, you don't watch 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: Love Island, but I told you that from the beginning. 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: Why are the red flags with him? 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: No, Connor is just like the most like Katie used 72 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: to be with Schwartz. So I think the Schwartz or 73 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Schwartz as we like to call him, Schwartz could like 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: at least be fun and funny and like over the top. 75 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Connor was not fun. No, no personality, no personality, handsome guy, 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: but that's it now. No, So I can't imagine, but 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: she said. After Connor was publicly spotted out on a 78 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: date with Katie and Katie confirmed the date during an 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: episode of her podcast, Aria confirmed that Katie and Connor's 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: date did not turn into anything more. 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: Well, it'd be like going on a date with Christian. 82 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: I could go on a date with Christian. I find 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: him really cute, and I think he has a cute personality. 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: Although he's barely in the episode. I feel like the 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: camera just accidentally pans to him every once in a while, 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: and he's just on the background. I like him. I 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: thought he was cute. 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: Emily Well, I feel like like Christian and Elizabeth Vargas 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: were in the episode the same amount of time. 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: I know, I said he wasn't in the episode. He 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: accidentally ended up on camera when the camera just panned 92 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 3: over him. It was like sitting on a bed or something. 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: I don't think he's that bad. I thought he was. 94 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: I think he's kind of cute. No, ma'am, well, I can't. 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, some of my picks and now 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: my pick at the beginning. He's ruined after watching the finale. 97 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: But we'll get to that later. But Lala can't wait 98 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: on Jack's Taylor seeking mental health treatment. Laala can't share 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: that the van of pump rules alum entering in patient 100 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: treatment for his mental health struggles last month was the 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: right move for him, and it's a strange wife. 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Britney cart right. 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Brittany and I are very close and we speak often 104 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 2: about a lot of things, including Jack's exclusively told the 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: Post on Thursday, and anytime anybody goes out and decides 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: to get help, no matter what the reasoning, of course, 107 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to stand by them. 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: On hundred percent. 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: This is interesting that her and Brittany have made up 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: because when we had La La on the twat Seed 111 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: or on to Teason a Pod, I can't remember which 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: one it was, she and Brittany were not talking. They 113 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: had gotten a fight over a babysitter dispute. 114 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: Oh I remember the babysitter dispute. It sounded very petty. 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: It was like somebody use somebody's babysitter. 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was like Britney was out of town 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: and so Lala had used their shared babysitter to have 118 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: her baby shower, so there was like someone to help. 119 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: And then during the baby shower Britney texted Lala's mom 120 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: and said like, why are you using I'm just going 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: to make up her name Michelle, you know, like wow, 122 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And it's like, come on right, you're 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: not even here. Were you going to use her? 124 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you, do you think Jacks is 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: in this mental health treatment because he's committed to it 126 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: or do you think he does it as a way 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: to back out of when you get a lot of 128 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: negative press and then you're just like go in to 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: kind of hide out and make it look like you're 130 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: trying to work on yourself. 131 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: I think he's always gotten pretty negative press, but I 132 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: think the fact that he now has a child. As 133 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: for the stay and rehab, the Stars rep said, Jack 134 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: has always been candid about his mental health struggles, especially 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: during the past few months on his podcast. He has 136 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: made the decision to seek inpatient treatment. This is a 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: particularly sensitive time for him and his family. They ask 138 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: for privacy and respect until he is ready to speak 139 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: more on this matter. So as now you go ahead 140 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: and give your thoughts, as he just asked for privacy, 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 2: Now go ahead. 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: What do you think, Emily, Well, I. 143 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Did not know that before. But no, well it sounds 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: like it's it sounds like he's really trying to get help. 145 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: And he does have a son, so that's good for him. 146 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: But he's true. 147 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: Maybe he's wanting to try to. 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Get back with Brittany, and she's always asked him to 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: get help. So we will respect their privacy until we 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: get more information. 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: That means you can't talk about it anymore. 152 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: Well, no, of course we're going to talk about it, 153 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: but until next week when but. 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: They asked for us to not talk about it. 155 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: They didn't actually ask us, They just asked the world, 156 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: which like, unless you're gonna wish we are part of 157 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Emily and Teddy, please zip it. Like, if you're talking 158 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: about it on your podcast, then you're no longer getting 159 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: privacy for it in my opinion. 160 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: Lisa Vanner Pump denies Peter Madrigal claims she rebranded Tom 161 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: Tom to Pump It was a Yahoo article the restaurant 162 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: restauranteur shut down Madrigal's speculation about the future of Tom Tom, 163 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: adding hadn't thought about rebranding it all, but thanks for 164 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: the idea, Peter, lol. Vanner Pump also made it clear 165 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: that she's focused on opening new businesses instead of reimagining 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: her existing ones. We've been hard at work on pinkies 167 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: at the Flamingo in Las Vegas, she concluded. Does he 168 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: want to change the name of that too? 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think he doesn't work there anymore. 170 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: I think he was their manager for a lot of 171 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: years and he's probably a little bit worked up. So 172 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: he's going to give shade whenever he can give shade. 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: But are you going to be heading to pinkies anytime soon? 174 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: Wait? Where is it at the Flamingas Vegas? I've never 175 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: been to the Flamingo. It's not one of my it's 176 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: not one of the top hotels I want to stay. 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: And when I go to Vegas, it's not like what 178 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: I automatically think of when we're going to head to Vegas. 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: You know, I need to hit us the Flamingo. We're 180 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 4: back to too hot to handle. 181 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: The episode starts, everyone's woken up and Lucy tries to 182 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: kiss Charlie, but he dodges her. 183 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: How awkward is that with us knowing that he's not 184 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: into her, but she doesn't know. I feel badly for her. 185 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: How did she not know? 186 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: She just doesn't know. She has no idea. She thinks 187 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: he's being respectful. 188 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: You really think, like honestly, Lucy, in the stretch of 189 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: any part of your imagination, you think that there is 190 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: a chance that Charlie's being respectful. 191 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: That's what she thinks. 192 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: No, But then Lucy and Louie both say they have 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: received no cuddles last night. They think it's because Charlie 194 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: and Catherine want a deeper connection with them. 195 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: They're very wrong. 196 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: I like how it also shows Catherine and Charlie like 197 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: giving each other like the side eye, you know, like 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: the flirties back, like. 199 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: They can't even help themselves. 200 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: But then Gianna can't help it and she spills the 201 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: tea that she had a dream about Louie last night. 202 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, Gianna just wants some aritime. 203 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: No, She's like, what do I have to do to 204 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: get into these episodes? 205 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: I know She's like not and it can't be Christian. 206 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: I guess not. Poor guy. I'm surprised they haven't kicked 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: him out yet. 208 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Well, then Lana reminds the group to be honest with 209 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: the person that romantically involved with, obviously referring to Catherine 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: and Charlie, and then Chris going not you bro to 211 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: Lana as if she isn't the entire point of the 212 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: show like Lana is. 213 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: He's like, stop talking, zip it, zip it. 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: Then we get Katherine and Charlie both decide to have 215 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: conversations with their partners as soon as possible, but their 216 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: conversations were very different. 217 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 3: They were I mean, I give Catherine credit. I mean 218 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: she it took her a while to get there and 219 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: it was kind of awkward, but she did get to 220 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: the point and she did let him know that she 221 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: was interested in Charlie or yeah, Charlie, Yeah, I couldn't. 222 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't be mad at Catherine like Katherine. Also, we 223 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: don't know how many days they've been there. Let's guess seven. 224 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: I mean not many, I don't think right, And She's 225 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: just like, listen, Louis, from the beginning, clearly we have 226 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: just had sexual chemistry, and now I have sexual chemistry 227 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: more with Charlie and I'm done. 228 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: But then, why can't Charlie. 229 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: Just be slightly more honest with Lucy? 230 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Just in touch. 231 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: I like how he just starts it, but he's way 232 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: too it's too many compliments. She's just like all warm 233 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: and fuzzy, like he made it a million times worse. 234 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 3: He set her up. 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, because then she's like, thank you so 236 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: much for being honest with me, and I'm like, he's not. 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: He's not. 238 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: He's actually lying right now. 239 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: He's lying. But the problem is, which we start to 240 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: see uncovered as Louis knows the truth, and so does 241 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Flavia and Joe Aw and Valentino. So we're pretty sure 242 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: that Lucy's gonna find out sooner rather than later. Then 243 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: our boy to Mario has another conversation with Brie and 244 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: asked to sleep in the same bed with her again, 245 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: there's he doesn't do any sort of like for play 246 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: prior to this conversation. Just do you want to, like, 247 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: let's make up and see. 248 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: He doesn't seem to be a man of many words 249 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: to me, he's a he's a model. Now he a 250 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: stockbroker or something. 251 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's now he just a model. 252 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: And he just it's like want to sleep in my bed? 253 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah or. 254 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: No, need to discuss, check this box. 255 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: But also like the thing about sleeping in the beds 256 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: with each other is like I actually would probably rather 257 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: sleep if I wasn't going to be having sex or 258 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: hooking up. 259 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: I'd probably rather just sleep by myself. 260 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: Anyway, it does look crowded, it looks I mean. 261 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: These are full sized beds. 262 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: These are not King These not Cale King's. 263 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: There, No they made Yeah, those are those are doubles. 264 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: They're doubles. 265 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: And then when you see the two guys in the 266 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: same thing together and they're. 267 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: Like over the edge, you know they didn't have a 268 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: comfortable sleep last night. 269 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: Lana thinks the boys in the retreat aren't showing the 270 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: girls the respect they deserve. Then they go to the 271 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: male only workshop and this is where Emila fries. 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: I did I found it moving? Shit? 273 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Do you want me to create a womb box for you? 274 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. No, No, I can do it 275 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: if you want. I would make shame get in it. 276 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: I wouldn't get in it. I'd be like, get in there. 277 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: But also, why did all the guys take their tops 278 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: off except for one of them and the way. 279 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: Who didn't take their top off? Jiao because he's not 280 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: buff I don't know. 281 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's the only one that didn't 282 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: strip down. But anyways, they they hear from their mom. 283 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: So this is where we learn that Chris doesn't have 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: a close relationship with his mom. 285 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: Wait, I do like how the men don't really know 286 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: the difference between a womb and a vagina. 287 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, they think this is this is just like 288 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: a uterine canal. 289 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: Like they just thought they just like climbed into a 290 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: warm vagina. Like they don't understand that there's actually like 291 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: like the womb is pocket. 292 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's listed you know up above. I mean 293 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: the amount of. 294 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: Zero knowledge that all these guys that are supposedly brought 295 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: into this place to like withhold sex have zero idea 296 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: about the female anatomy really shows what sex is going 297 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: to be like with them at the end when they 298 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: think of a China as a womb, right, then they 299 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: get They're sent back to the safest place they've ever been. 300 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: They're having the headphones, they're taking their out fits off. 301 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Landa held a baby shower for everyone and gave them 302 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: all watches as a gift. 303 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh this is after the womb. 304 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is right after the womb. 305 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they got the watches. 306 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: Then they got the watches for it. 307 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: So if they get good behavior, then they get to 308 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: have a couple free seconds or free makeout or whatever. 309 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Right, but they have to earn. But the watch only 310 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: turns green if there's something deep going on. 311 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Right, whatever they learned in their workshop they bring to life. 312 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: So like we thought, Charlie talked a big game inside 313 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: the womb. He said, when I get outside the womb, 314 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: I feel bad about what I did with Lucy. But 315 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: really what I've been doing is thinking about Catherine. Great, 316 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: but still the person you need to go to first 317 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: is Lucy and apologize. But what he did is he 318 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: went straight to Catherine to tell her how much she's 319 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: into her. Where do Mario took a different approach, and 320 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: he went and actually apologized to Brae. So then they 321 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: got to get their little green light watch and make 322 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: out m hm. And then Charlie and Catherine never got 323 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: any lighting. 324 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it seems very superficial at this point. 325 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: Well do you also think, I mean not to be rude, 326 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: but did you hear Kylie Sha say one word this episode? 327 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: No? 328 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: I was not surprised though when they is that the 329 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: next episode, when does she when does she get kicked out? 330 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: It didn't surprise me. 331 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: Like she hasn't gotten a green light. 332 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: She hasn't got I don't even think they give her 333 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: a watch, like they're just okay. 334 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: This is where she played it wrong. Even if you're 335 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: not into one of those guys like Christian or Chris, 336 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: just pretend to be at least do I mean, no 337 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: one else is Like it's not like any of these 338 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: people are going to get married, like just at least 339 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: try to have a connection. 340 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: And she had put in a good I mean, granted 341 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: it didn't work out in her favor, but like Giann 342 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: like at least to up a couple of softballs to 343 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: get herself in the game. 344 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: Right like that, Kaylicia, She's like, oh eh, no, she 345 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: couldn't even He's like, are you are you interested in 346 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: anyone here? 347 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: Oh? No, no, absolutely no, it's disgusting, including you. 348 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 349 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: Well, of course Charlie and Catherine kiss even though they 350 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: didn't get the green light. Meanwhile, Lucy's crying, saying she 351 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 2: wants to leave and she wants her mom. It's a 352 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: rough it's a rough episode for everyone involved. 353 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: Poor Lucy. Did you feel badly for at all? Did 354 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: you have any empathy for her? Or did you just 355 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 3: think she was a ding dong? 356 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know that. It's not that 357 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: I didn't have empathy for her. I just don't know 358 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: that she ever was really that into Charlie. 359 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 3: Charlie. 360 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: I don't into Charlie. I think she just you know, 361 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: I think her, which mine would be as well. I'm 362 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: not saying I wouldn't, but I think her ego was hurt. 363 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: You know what My her question is, Okay, so Valentina, 364 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: you know, like the hot, saucy Latina. She was so 365 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 3: crappy to these women when she first got there, and 366 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: then now they're all best friends. But there has I 367 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: guess I just have the housewife mentality too much, where 368 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm like I don't understand what happened. There was never 369 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: like a conversation. She just shaded everyone when she walked up. 370 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 3: But now she's integrated with the women and they all 371 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: seem to be friendly. 372 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's because when they bring in the bombshells, 373 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: the bombshells are the grenade bring it, Yeah, the grenades. 374 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: I think when they bring in the grenades, the grenades 375 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: are told to bring it, so they bring it. And 376 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: then once they the grenades don't really. 377 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: They pull the pen and then nothing happens. 378 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, then it's like then it's like then it's kind 379 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: of just done. And I think that's what happened Valentina. 380 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: I don't know that she was actually an aw so. 381 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: I think she got on the show because she was like, listen, 382 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: I am going to come on and I'm going to 383 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: bring it. And then one she didn't get anyone with 384 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: bringing it. She was like, well, when am I. 385 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: Gonna I'll just sit over here with these ladies. 386 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: Me and Flavia will. 387 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: Just talk about how she's ready to move on from Joao. 388 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: But then it says, this morning looks a little different 389 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: in their treat A lot of people have switched Catherine 390 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: and Charlie are all over each other, and so are 391 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Gianna and Louie. 392 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: Louie, he has no self control. 393 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: I don't even know if we call it self control. 394 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I just also think like he has no 395 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: I think he just wants to make out with anyone 396 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: like he Clearly, I'm not that Gianna is not beautiful, 397 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: but like he has there been anyone he hasn't. 398 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: No, That's why you know you would never feel special 399 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: because the minute you weren't interested anymore, He's just going 400 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: to make out with the person next to you. 401 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: So like that, I at least want to feel like 402 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit special, even if you're a lying, 403 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: cheating asshole. I want to feel like somehow I was 404 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: right chosen. He needs to get back in the womb. 405 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: He needed to spend more time in the womb, but 406 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: he's about to spend time elsewhere soon. But Gianna is 407 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: talking about how happy she is to have loving in 408 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: her bed, but he tusts her self control. We have 409 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: to also remember in this moment that Louis has cost 410 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: the group sixty four thousand dollars so far. Lana threatens 411 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: the group by telling them she won't allow them to 412 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: make the same mistakes again and she will not tolerate 413 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: phoning in. 414 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 3: Oh no, you got to show up in person. 415 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've gotta. 416 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: But then Christian, that's when Christians like shit. 417 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: He tried to by Leicia. 418 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to give the guy credit for trying. No, 419 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: he's trying to get airtime. He's trying to hook up 420 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: with someone. 421 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: But you know how like the kids call like other 422 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: cool kids like Riz, Yeah. 423 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I feel like Christian. 424 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a complete opposite of having any resk. 425 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: I still think he's cute. 426 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, is he your number one in the in the. 427 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: Number one guy in the group? 428 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: Yes, the number Is he the jacks to you? 429 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: No? But I find him. I think he's cute and 430 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: I think he's sweet. I don't know. I don't understood. 431 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: You rather make up with him or Louis him? 432 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: I don't. Louis doesn't do it for me. Louis is 433 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 3: just he is. He's just a male prostitute. I like 434 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: to feel special and I feel like Christian. It isn't 435 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 3: it just Christian? I like how you try to you 436 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 3: call him Christian. 437 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 2: Because when he first came on, they called him Christian. 438 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: When he came in as the grenade or the bomb 439 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: shell or whatever. They were like christ Gian and he 440 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: was like with his like hairs in the water, and 441 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: he was like. 442 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: I've never had a rough time with women. I was 443 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: like until all this retreat, until the. 444 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: Last guy booted out after he cried in the hammock. 445 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: But then Lana calls everybody to the cabana. Charlie confesses 446 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: that he and Catherine were the ones to break the rules, 447 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: and then he phrases it as he wanted to do 448 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: so much more than kissing. 449 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: So you're welcome for not doing more. 450 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I like how you turn that around? 451 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think that's what they like to call gaslighting. 452 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what that's called. 453 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Sure, And then as a group, they've almost lost half 454 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 2: their prize fund. Then Lana calls out Chris and Kylie 455 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: Sha for not making meaningful connections. She kicks Kylisha out 456 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: of the retreat, but she's given Chris a pass for now. 457 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: Is that because he just said in the Womb that 458 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: he wanted to try harder with his mom. 459 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: The fact that you're going to bring everything to the womb, 460 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: like the Womb did one bit of therapy for any 461 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: of these guys is amazing it did. 462 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: I feel like it really changed him. 463 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: Okay, so Chris is a new man after the womb. Yeah, 464 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: but he's got a pass. He gets to stay Kaylie. 465 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Sia doesn't get a pass because she's not even she's 466 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: probably already given notice. 467 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: And like flown out. We didn't even just see that part. 468 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 2: But then Lana calls out Louis and she kicks him 469 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: out of the treat from making the same mistakes repeatedly. 470 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, you throw Gianna a bone and then you 471 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: rip him out, like just make him go to the 472 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: thing for paper clips again. 473 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: I know, I was. I was like, why is he 474 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: just not in seclusion? 475 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: Like why can't why can't he just go back there 476 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: and put on his suit and. 477 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, because now Gianna has to start over and she 478 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: doesn't have her best friend anymore. So and I don't 479 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 3: she should she should try to make it work with Christian. 480 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: But then Joo doesn't want to risk losing Flavia, so 481 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: he pulls her aside to tell her how he feels. 482 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: He says he likes her so much. If she were 483 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: chosen to leave today, he would have left with her. 484 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: And this is where you realize and then they get 485 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: the green light flash and this is where she has 486 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: officially checked out from the relationship. 487 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: She says, I feel the same way, though. 488 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Well she didn't mean to say it. 489 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: She was like, it was an accident. 490 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that Jiao doesn't want to 491 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: risk losing Flavier? He doesn't want to risk not being 492 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: on the show? Both Christian's still there, but Gianna still 493 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't even try for him. 494 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: But she should. 495 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: She has a standards, but if she. 496 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: Wants to stay, she needs to make some effort. 497 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there is a way to have a 498 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: conversation with him and be like, I'm into you. 499 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: You don't have to have a conversation just well you 500 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: can't kiss. 501 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: What are you going to do? 502 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: Just gazing? Oh, we just learned about gazing. 503 00:25:58,920 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: We did. 504 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: You guys are going to have to tune into a 505 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: later episode regarding secret lives of Mormon wives to learn 506 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: what gazing is. 507 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: Even though actually everything comes full circle. 508 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: Remember when they had the therapy session where they all 509 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: gazed at each other, but they didn't call gazing. 510 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: And they had clothes on, Yeah, but they. 511 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: Just stared at each other, And so there is a difference. 512 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: But see, yeah, okay, Well anyways, then Catherine and Charlie 513 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: have a conversation. Catherine asked what he'd do if a 514 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: grenade came in. Then he was attracted to could he 515 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: be so dumb to say this? 516 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: He's so dumb. I thought he was going to correct it, 517 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: but then he just added like zero point two percent. 518 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: He said, there's ninety nine point five percent chance and 519 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: nothing would happen, but I can't guarantee it. 520 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: And then Kat, clearly, Kath. 521 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: Is not like all you have to do is like 522 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: add in a couple more points, and like then it 523 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: would have been a fine answer. 524 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: Clearly, like he can't. He just can't commit to one 525 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: hundred percent. 526 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: He can't. 527 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: That's a red flag. 528 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if I should be impressed 529 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: by Charlie's honesty or shocked at how bad he isn't 530 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: playing this game. 531 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Like it's I really don't get it. 532 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe I think I was impressed when 533 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: he even doubled down and it would and just changed 534 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 3: it to ninety nine point seven from nineteen. Still his life, 535 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: like he's very committed to making sure it's not one. 536 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: He's like I don't want to be a bold faced liar. 537 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: And I can guarantee you if that grenade had one 538 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: thing that he actually wanted, he would have used that 539 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: percentage to be done. 540 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was that's how he can back out 541 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: later and not be a jerk. He'd be like, look, 542 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: I told you there was a ninety nine point seven 543 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 3: percent chance, I'm no liar. 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 2: Listen, buddy, I I mean, listen, kat I let you know. 545 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: But then they wake up the next morning and bad 546 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: Lana is back, Bad Lana, Bad Lana. They wake up 547 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: the next morning and first she calls on Briey. She 548 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: reveals that a grenade is on his way to whisk 549 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: breathe off her feet. Then she calls on Charlie new Le. Charlie, 550 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: the new grenade is taking him out as well. Charlie 551 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: insays he will not be doing anything with the new 552 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: girl because now, all of a sudden, he said it's 553 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: one hundred percent with. 554 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: Catherine, he upped it, he opped it, he slept on it, 555 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: and realized that he made mistake. 556 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: That one hundred percent is actually the correct answer. 557 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: Okay. I also was waiting for her to call him 558 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: out on that, and I feel I don't know if 559 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: it was editing or what, but don't you think she 560 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: just looked defeated? She didn't actually say anything to him. 561 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think she was so blunt, like dumbfounded that 562 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: he would say such a stupid thing like. 563 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: What, like, what are you going to be? 564 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: Like? 565 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Really? 566 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: But you would have said something if someone said to 567 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: you I'm ninety nine point seven percent sure I won't 568 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: cheat on you. Wouldn't you be like, okay, well then 569 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: you can take a hike. 570 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think the reason she didn't was because she 571 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: was like, shit, clearly, there's no one else in this 572 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: house I can share a bed with, which apparently is 573 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: a really big deal, Like who's she going to go 574 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: to Christian Yes, so she's like, I'm just going to 575 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: suck it up and take that small percentage off and 576 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: see what happens. But then they're told they're given a 577 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: twenty four hour free pass. Jalen is a self proclaimed 578 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: alpha that's taking Bri on a date. And then Sabrina, 579 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: who's a literal clone of Catherine. I'm like, just because 580 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: she's brunette does not mean she's a literal clone. Yeah, 581 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: she just had long, dark hair like hot bodies and 582 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: long dark hair. So it's half the people on the show. 583 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you're clones. Yeah, I mean there's only 584 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: so many options for hair colors. 585 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I think you're a literal clone of me. 586 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes I actually thought that today when we got on 587 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: this zoom, I was like, are you twinning? 588 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: Because we both look like shit? 589 00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Who could look? 590 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, and I'm a full swell. My air conditioning's 591 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: not working. I just got off a plane after missing 592 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: my plane last night. Like things are unwell over here. 593 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: I smell like dead bodies. I smell like after getting 594 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: out of the like whatever that camp is where they 595 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: hold you with the paper clips. That's how I feel currently. 596 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: But I couldn't miss too hot handle recap clearly No. 597 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 3: But then. 598 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like, when these grenades come in, do you 599 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: think like producers have a cell phone on them that 600 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: they're like, hey, Charlie, say she's a literal clone, or 601 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: like he just came up with that shit on his own. 602 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, do you think they they told him to 603 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: say ninety nine points seven percent? I feel like literal 604 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: clone is probably his own language. 605 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: But then Serena's quick to try to tempt. 606 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: Charlie, but I feel like I never felt in chemistry 607 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: with on them on their entire date. But I did 608 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: love that they showed that he uses the same pickup 609 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: line on Lucy and Catherine and then now Sabrina. 610 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I love that montage. That was a 611 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: good one. I like it. 612 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 613 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: But I also think it's unintentionally hilarious that I think 614 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: he might have the smallest muscles there of all the 615 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: other kinds. Beside, then Charlie tells her he's not in 616 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: a serious relationship. Catherine has a right to be nervous 617 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: back at their treat then bad Lana gives them a 618 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: feather sex toy, a massage oil, which they both used 619 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: on each other. 620 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't turned on by this massage. 621 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: Well. First of all, I mean, I don't know how 622 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: sexy a beach is. Like they always they're always meeting 623 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: on the beach. It's sandy and windy, and. 624 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: Like he wants to get oiled on the beach with 625 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: all tho sand's gonna to you. 626 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: It's just a hot champagne. 627 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. All I keep thinking about is how gross that 628 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: would feel. 629 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: No, I didn't lie I wouldn't have wanted the feather 630 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: toy or the massage oil. But then Brie is pretending 631 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: she's very attracted to Jalen. He reminds her of one 632 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: of his exes she had a really fun time with. 633 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: I feel like Brie might be playing this up a 634 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: little bit. I think Brie is not into jail in 635 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: one Bed. 636 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so either. I think she is 637 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: legitimately attracted to do Mario and makes things want to 638 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: work with him, but she also knows she's on a show, 639 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: so she's playing it up. 640 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 641 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: And then Jalen and Sabrina tell their dates about the 642 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: free pass and they seem to be very interested. But 643 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: then surprisingly Charlie turns down the twenty four hour pass 644 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 2: with Sabrina, but Brie, on the other hand, decides to 645 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: give in to Jalen. And then Bri and Jalen walk 646 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: back into the retreat holding hands, and then our girl 647 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: val Valadina, she's got to get in there. Yeah, she 648 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: has to yell out and asks did they kiss? 649 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: Did y'all kiss? Did you kiss? 650 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: And then that's when Jamari says he'll be done ifre kissed. 651 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 3: Ooh, because he has standards. 652 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: Because he kissed Valentina two days ago, right, But and 653 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: then he asked her to sleep in his bed, and 654 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: then he got one green light. But then I don't know, I. 655 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: Didn't ever feel any connection. 656 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: But speaking of connections, the second Jalen walks in, Flavia 657 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 2: can barely withstain herself. Yeah, like she wanted to have 658 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: a gazing orgasm the second she saw him. And then 659 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: Charlie and Sabrina come back and they're also holding hands. 660 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: I've now realized that you must hold hands when you return. 661 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: I think that is it is, it is in the 662 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: rule book. 663 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: It's like when you're a housewife, they have to show 664 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: you getting out of the car, even though they probably 665 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: won't ever show it, They're going to film you getting 666 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: out of the car. 667 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: No matter what which. 668 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: I was getting ready, there's always the getting ready shots. 669 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: Or like when you have when you're setting up for 670 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: people to come over, like getting the waters, that none 671 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: of that is ever shown. And they'd always be like, 672 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: do you need to like cut lemons or something for 673 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 2: the water, And I'd be like, no, but I will sure, 674 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: I don't have a limon, but let me grab Onelson. 675 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 4: But then h. 676 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: Charlie. 677 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: Once Charlie and Sabrina come back, they're also holding cans. 678 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: Katherine is livid, livid. The boys all tell Charlie that 679 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 2: Catherine was stressed the entire day, and Chris wants to 680 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: make a move on Sabrina, and then Bree tells Damari 681 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: that Jalen tries to kiss her, and we're left. 682 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, the cliffhanger. 683 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Dubb dug dunk duh. 684 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 2: Charlie tells Katherine didn't kiss Sabrina, but then we're left 685 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: on a cliffhanger on whether he tells her or not. 686 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: About the massage. 687 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: What do you think he's gonna, Donna. 688 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 3: He's gonna tell her there was a ninety nine point 689 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: for seven percent chance that there was a massage. 690 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: It's just too good and just like that, guys, now 691 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: we're hooked. So we have three episodes left of Too 692 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: Hot to Handle, So you guys keep tuning in because 693 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: it's quite entertaining, and hopefully in the meantime we will 694 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: continue to get some valley gossip and I'll try to 695 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: find out some news on Sunday at church from Danny 696 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: and Nia. You go to church, Yeah, I mean, I 697 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: don't want my undergarments, but I do 698 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: Go well all right, but thanks for listening.