1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, it's an emergency show today. We're throwing it 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: together because the Giants signed an outfielder in Harrison Bader, 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: so we want to talk about that. Susan Slesser joins begins, Susan, 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: how we doing? How you feel it? Great? 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we finally have somebody to talk about. So yeah, 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: we were like, oh, this, I'm not sure emergency, this 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: is like cause for celebration. This is we really have. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: We've had so little to discuss this offseason, so I 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: hope people are excited about this. You want to show 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: the breaking news story here? 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do it? Oh, look it up, yeah, giant. 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on the Chronicle website right now. Lots of 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: information about Harrison Vader. Now he's uh, he's still got 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: to take his physical, so this probably won't be announced 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: for maybe another day or two. He has had some 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: injury seasons in the past, but nothing. I didn't see 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: any thing last year that was alarming. So but we 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: all learned, you never know. We used to think that 19 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: a physical was a foregone conclusion, but. 20 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Well, he had that hamstring and he missed the playoffs 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: with the Phillies. I mean when he was when he 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: got to the Phillies this year. He rejuvenated that ball club. 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: Their outfield wasn't playing really well defensively. It took Rob 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Thompson a minute to get him in there every day, 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: and then once he became part of that lineup every 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: single day the Phillies, he was the heart and soul. 27 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the fans were going nuts about him. He 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: was making great plays on defense. He had that cockiness 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: and that swagger, but he was backing it up with 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: his play. And as we both have been talking about 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot on this podcast, the Giants outfield defense has 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: been a big question mark. So I don't know if 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: he's an everyday guy for the Giants, but maybe him 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: and Jung Hoo Lee switch off right. He left e 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: John Hookin hit left. He though, so we'll see. I 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: saw a mock lineup, Susan, and I'll just say this 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 1: and then I'll let you talk. This was on MLB 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: dot Com. Elliott Ramos leading off, Raphael Devers batting second 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: at first base, hitting third at shortstop, Willia Damas batting 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: fourth at third, Matt Chapman batting fifth and right field, 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: Jounghu Lee batting six in center field, Harrison Vader the 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: d H in the seventh spot, Bryce Eldridge batting eighth, 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: a second base, Casey Schmidt and batting ninth and doing 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the catching patcher Patrick Pailey. So I had to practice 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: for the broadcast coming up, But that that lineup sounds okay, right, 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: it sounds okay. 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's not gonna it's not in this division. 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's still we're still not talking Dodgers padres level. 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: But what what does this do to Junghu Lee overall? 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 2: I mean, we've he has played a lot of right 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: I went and looked at his KBO stats and he's 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: got more than two hundred games of experience in right 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: He's a good outfielder honestly with his arm, which is okay, 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: I think he'd be fine there. But you know, people 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: think moving from center field to right field, oh that's easy. 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Not necessarily At Oracle Park, right field has got a 57 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: huge amount of challenges itself, especially the way the ball 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: can come off the wall sometimes. 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if Bader at thirty one's an 60 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: everyday player, so we'll see. But Jung Hoo Lee does 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: have a good arm, and he does have a right 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: field arm, and I think of PNC Ballpark in Pittsburgh, 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: where that left center field is huge, and they generally 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: put like Starling Marte played left field because there was 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: so much room to cover and left center. Oracle Park's 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: the same way. You can have two center fielders, one 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: and right and one in center to cover triples alley. 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: So whichever guy plays where, I think Jung hou Lee 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: has the right field arm, which would inhibit a lot 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: of teams from going first to third on a base 71 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: hit to right. I mean his arm was the thing 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: that surprised me the most of his game last year. 73 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: And I think back to that Yankee series when you 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: hit the home runs, but he made some throws in 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium in that series that we were in the 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: booth going wait, we didn't always bringing this to the party. 77 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know what the Giants are going to do. 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: I just like the better thing at three h five 79 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: in that short stint with the Phillies three sixty one 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: on base percentage, he was hitting clutch home runs. And 81 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the Giants need a little swagger, they need a little cockiness, 82 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: they need a little edge to their game. Allah Drew 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: Gilbert and who knows these two are going to be 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: best friends the way I see it. But I like 85 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: this signing a lot. We've been talking about Harrison Bader 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: on our show here all off season, and I'm really 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: excited about you know, I get excited about everything, but 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: I just I think this guy's a solid ballplayer and 89 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: just what the Giants need. 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know why, Baiter, I like as our little 91 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: helpful hint there says, I mean, among other things, he's cheap. 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: Twenty point five million for two years. That's total, that's 93 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: not per year, that's total. That's I think the Giants 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: are getting a nice bargain here. He's a very you know, 95 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: he's a gold glove. He's won a gold Glove. He's 96 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: got very good I'm gonna put up these are his 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: stat cast measurements from last year. The red is above average, 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: the blue is below average. You can see here when 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: it comes to the fielding, any of the fielding considerations, 100 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: he is a well above average and he used to 101 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: be much more so. That goldglove was in twenty twenty one. 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: And you can. 103 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: See, you know, there's not a lot of walks, there's 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: some strikeouts in that game, but he's got good batspeed 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: and you always kind of look at that and go, 106 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: I wonder what a new team might do there. I 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: think that would be really nice. When you got some speed, 108 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: it would be nice to see them maybe work with 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: him on adding some more walk to his game. I 110 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: think that would be great. But I'm sure he's been 111 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: hearing that throughout his career. You talk about swagger, I 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: think most people know from his brief time with the 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Yankees He's from the Bronx. So went to horse Man 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: High School, which is kind of a legendary high school 115 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: in the Bronx. So lots of politicians and actors and 116 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: athletes and all sorts of people from that very high 117 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: profile school. So he comes with you know, I think 118 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: some edge. I tend to like that. You know, it 119 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: can sometimes that can rub people the wrong way. So 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: we'll see where that goes. But they could This is 121 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: a team that could use a lot of edge, I think, 122 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: so I'm all for it. 123 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Well, with his manager and the energy he has in 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: some of the players, including Drew Gilbert, I think that 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: this could be a perfect fit for him. And yeah, 126 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: I've heard all the preparatory school stories about him. He's 127 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: a rich kid from New York and this and that 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: I always like to judge people for myself. When I 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: meet them, you can hear rumors about people and how 130 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: they are. I remember before I came to the Giants, 131 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: everybody's like, you're gonna hate Barry Bonds. And from my 132 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: first day as a Giant, he became a good teammate 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: and a good friend, and we're still good friends. He 134 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: treated my kid, both of my kids so incredibly when 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I was a Giant. But like when I was signing 136 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: with Giants, everybody's like, watch out for Barry Bonds. You're 137 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: not gonna like this guy. So the way I do 138 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: things is I like to judge people for myself. And 139 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: so the play on the field for me with the 140 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: Phillies this year in a Pennant race spoke for itself. 141 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: The guy likes there's no moment too big for him. 142 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: He likes to be on the big stage. He likes 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: the attention and he comes through. Man, he's a clutch player. 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: He go get him in center field. I don't know 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that the arm strength is real good. I don't know 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: what you had on that chart just now, but his 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: range in the plays he makes when he was with 148 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, when he was with the Twins and the 149 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: Giants were playing the Twins and we were in Minnesota 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: covering that series. He was playing left field. He got 151 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of big hits, but he can really go 152 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: get him in center field. So yeah, this is an 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: exciting day for Giants fans. I don't know if they're 154 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: done yet, so like we've been waiting for a big sign. 155 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Is this a big sign? I don't know, but it's 156 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: a nice fit to the puzzle, and it seems like 157 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the puzzle is using patients and there still might be 158 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: some deals to be done. I know we're on about 159 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: two weeks away from spring training, but yeah, I think 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: this is great. And I was with Tony Tony Vaitello 161 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: and I did a Q and A with Giant season 162 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: ticket holders on Friday, and he was mentioning Harrison Bader 163 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: and they were talking and he said they're close, so 164 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I had some inside information. I was get excited about it. 165 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: And then Tony was asking me about outfielders. Can they 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: play wherever? And he feels like at the major league level, 167 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: a big league outfielder should be able to play whatever position, 168 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: and having played all three, I know there's challenges to center. 169 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean to right and left center was easy for me. 170 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I was a high school wide receiver, so it was 171 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: just like catching passes because the ball doesn't hook or tail. 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Every once in a while, you get a riser. Every 173 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: once in a while you get a knuckleball that's kind 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: of weird. But when you play left field, the ball's 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: either going to hook off a right handed bat or 176 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: tail and it's on you. I always felt claustrophobic playing 177 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: left field, like I'm right behind the shortstop and all 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: those big right handed hitters barrel up one hundred mile 179 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: an hour exit velos and it's on you. And you 180 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: only have to have an adequate average, maybe even below 181 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: average arm to play left field centerfield. I feel like 182 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: you got to have an average to above average arm. 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: And when I say average, you know this, Susan major 184 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: league average arm is a good arm. And then you 185 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: have to be average to above average in right field. 186 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: So I don't know where everybody's gonna play. Tony was 187 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: talking about mixing and matching and thinking guys could play 188 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: wherever and we'll see how that pans out. But yeah, 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: they've been on Harrison Bader for a while out and 190 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: I think there was a few challenges in getting him 191 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: signed and now he's here, and hey, with the whole 192 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Korea thing, the physical is a big deal. We used 193 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: to just talk about, you know, pending physical like that 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: was nothing. But Baita was hurt last year and it 195 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: was a soft tissue thing and he couldn't go in 196 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And that guy's a gamer, so you know, 197 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: if he couldn't go, and I can't remember, Susan and 198 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: I probably should have looked at this before he went 199 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: on if it was a hamstring or a groin, I 200 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: want to say it was a hamstring. In soft tissue 201 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: injuries and especially hamstrings sometimes and and Oracle Park that's 202 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: not a conducive place to that. So hopefully it's fully healed, 203 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: he passes a physical and he can still get on 204 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: his horse and go get him. 205 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: He does have a history of some of those kinds 206 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: of things. You know, he's had previous seasons where he's 207 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 2: had you know, a few soft tissue injuries here and there, 208 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: which you would expect from a guy who's a good 209 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: base runner, fast base runner, steels basis and is also 210 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: an outfielder. I mean that this happens, especially playing in 211 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: some cold weather places which he was. You hope maybe 212 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: playing on the West coast more often will will lessen 213 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: some of those things. Sometimes that is the fact. But 214 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: he's also thirty one, so we shall see. What does 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: this do now to Luis Matos, who's out of options? 216 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: Do we assume that he's gone? Could he win a 217 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: fifth outfielder spot or do you are you looking for 218 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: something different from perhaps a fifth outfielder. I just assume 219 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: the fifth outfielders probably Drew Gilbert. 220 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing I would say about Luis Matos 221 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: is like he has talked about it publicly, probably with you, 222 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and I've heard about it publicly that he has trouble 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: when he's not playing every day. The you know, minor 224 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: leaguers that are prospects, they play every single day. Then 225 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you come up to the big 226 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: leagues and you sit for five days and then you 227 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: got to go face a list celebrity pitcher, and it's 228 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: just it's hard for some kids to get used to. 229 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: And he's had a lot of opportunities, and I think 230 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: the talent level is there, but as far as a 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: big league center fielder, I watch him do the uh 232 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: and then go get the ball thing a lot in 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: center field where at the highest level, when it's going 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: like this, you can't go uh and go get the ball. 235 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: It's got to be boom, and you work on your 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: breaks boom. You do that every day so that you're 237 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, the game moves so fast, it's coming at 238 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: you one hundred and ten miles an hour. You got 239 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: to get great jumps and that's something that you work 240 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: on every day in batting practice, you work on it 241 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: in spring training. But but I guess the moral of 242 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: this is, I don't know if he's he's a bench guy. 243 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: I think he would flourish on another team as an 244 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: everyday guy. I don't know if he's all star caliber, 245 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: and that's not for me to say. I would love 246 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: for him to have a chance to do that, but 247 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: he really hasn't had the opportunity to play every day 248 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: as a Giant, and some guys just can't wrap their 249 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: head around that. They can't they can't they don't know 250 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: how to stay ready, they don't know how to stay fresh. 251 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I had trouble with it at the end of my career, 252 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: having one at bat dictate my day. So you're going 253 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: up there in the eighth n and you're pinch hit 254 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: and then you go oh for one, and I get 255 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: a drive home thinking about the over one and that's 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: all you have. Whereas if you're a starter and I 257 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: ground out the short I still got three at bats left, 258 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I go three for four. So my mentality, as you 259 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: could probably imagine, wasn't really suited for being a bench guy, 260 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: even though I embraced it and I said, this is 261 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: my role. I'm going to figure it out. But for 262 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: a twenty something kid that's a prospect, that's a huge adjustment. 263 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I hope he winds up with a team, a young, 264 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: rebuilding team where he can get that, you know, a 265 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: really good long run, and you know, a couple of 266 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: months or two, we'll see if he actually is a 267 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: big leaguer or not. I really like some of the 268 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: skill sets that we've seen over the years, seen flashes. 269 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: I know, giant Sands have been kind of frustrated. We'd 270 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 2: like to see him more. But he couldn't sustain it. 271 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: In your very right, he would sit for a few 272 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: days and then just really get out of whack. And 273 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: not for lack of effort, nothing like that. It just 274 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: wasn't something you know, it was not in his wheelhouse. 275 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: He had not learned how to do that yet. And 276 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: it's a I've talked so much about Wilmer Flores and 277 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: appreciating his game. It is so hard to have that role, 278 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: and he did it for a long time, including as 279 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: a young player coming off the bench and having great 280 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: at bats. It's really tough playing once or twice a week. 281 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, this this would be interesting with Bader so 282 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: obviously a right handed hitter, so he would get the 283 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: bulk of time if they decide to do a you know, 284 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: a split sort of based on handedness in center. But 285 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: I think that if you signed somebody like him, you 286 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: probably want him in the lineup more often than not anyway, 287 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: and we'll see how young, who looks and right. I 288 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: got to think that that's that's what the plan is. 289 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: That we had FanFest going on this weekend. As you know, 290 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: since you saw Tony the night before, we had san 291 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: ramon a ton of people in Sabu. It was really extraordinary. 292 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that they were expecting quite as much. 293 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: So there is some interest. I would say a lot 294 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: of that is by Tello, but Logan Web was there 295 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: and that's the first time We've really gotten a chance 296 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: to talk to Logan about the WBC, so, you know, 297 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: maybe not quite as as exciting news as as talking 298 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 2: about a finally getting an acquisition here, but Logan Web, 299 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: this is this is kind of low key important and 300 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: everyone really needs to keep an eye on it. He's 301 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: a horse. I don't think there's too much to worry about. 302 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: But the Giants really did not want Logan Web participating 303 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: in this. Buster posey was clear, and I certainly understand 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: his thinking that he really likes that when starting pictures 305 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: participate in the WBC sort of later in their careers, 306 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: you know, I'llah Clayton Kershaw, Adam Waynwright, guys like that, 307 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: Scott Kashmir who essentially was done with the majors when 308 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: he was in the Olympics. So Logan's like, yeah, I 309 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: know how they feel that. I've been talking to Mark 310 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: de Rosa for three years, so since the end of 311 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: the last WBC. Really he's like, this is my decision. 312 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: So it's not a lot of juggling because starting pitcher 313 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: is going to get a set number of starts during 314 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: the spring appearances, what have you might not necessarily start 315 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: every game, and they already have that mapped out. The WBC. 316 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: The Team USA can work around that. The Giants have 317 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: a training staff with the WBC with Team USA, so 318 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: I think they probably have less reason to worry about 319 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Logan than maybe some other pictures. What are your thoughts 320 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: on Logan in particular in the WBC and pitchers in general. 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Well, if I remember right, and I could wrong, Logan 322 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: bowed out of that late during spring training one year 323 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: in Scottsdale, saying that he wanted to get to he 324 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: wanted to set a clubhouse vibe, and he was scheduled 325 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to pitch in the last WBC, but he said he 326 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: didn't want to. I've talked to Mark de Rossa about 327 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: it before, and he said the biggest challenge for him 328 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: as he hears from every GM, every president of baseball operations, 329 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: they want to take care of their guys. I trust 330 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Logan Web, I do, but I also know that Logan 331 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Web's maybe the most competitive guy, or one of the 332 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: most competitive guys I've been around. He's super old school. 333 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: My fear is that no matter how he trains, no 334 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: matter how ready he is, that when shoy Otani's up 335 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: there for Japan and the game's on the line, He's 336 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: going to reach back, and the competitive juices in the 337 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: nature just takes over. It does. You're not out there 338 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: on the mound going well, I'm going to be pitching 339 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: in July against the Dodgers, and you just go, I 340 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: want to throw this pitch and I want to strike 341 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: him out, and I want to get back to the 342 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: dugout to a bunch of high fives, and I want 343 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: to stand in ovation, and the competitiveness is going to 344 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: take over. So I'm a little bit worried. I'm not 345 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: going to lie. I'm happy for Logan web. He posted 346 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: all those the giants posted with the USA jersey on 347 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: and what a great honor to represent your country in 348 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: any way. One of my dreams as a kid was 349 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: to play on the USA Olympic team. I saw them 350 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: play at Candlestick and it was Barry Lark and its 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: short and Will Clark at first and Mark McGuire was 352 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: the dh and Odob McDowell's in center field, and I'm 353 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: sitting there going, man, I want to make the Olympic 354 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: team someday. I want to wear our nation's colors and 355 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: get a gold medal. Well, I understand it's just the 356 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: timing of it. Man, your body's not ready to ramp 357 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: up for playoff situations in March, and that's what this 358 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: essentially is. It's going to be like pitching in October 359 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: in March. So you know, I'm selfish. I want Logan 360 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Web to start thirty three times for the Giants and 361 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: winn Asy Young for the first time because he's been 362 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: so close all these years, and I don't want anything 363 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: to happen. So maybe I'm sounding like a dad here. 364 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like, get off my lawn. 365 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm an old guy, but Logan's one of my favorites. 366 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: I just hope that he gets through this, okay. 367 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: I you know, I agree with you and I especially 368 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: with the part that Logan is such a competitor. He's 369 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: going to go all out. I mean, the adrenaline is 370 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: just going to be pumping, and I had to laugh. 371 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: The other day during his Logan's Q and A session 372 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 2: in San Ramon, he was asked about the WBC and 373 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: the fact that Junghu Lee said he really wants to 374 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: get a hit. 375 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: Off of Logan. 376 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: Obviously, we don't know if that if Korea is going 377 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: to come out of that that pool. I think they 378 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: probably will or if they'd wind up facing each other. 379 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: But that's the one guy he singled out that he 380 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 2: wants to get hit off and was sort of like, 381 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: I love Juggie, Like, what's up with that? So that's 382 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: another one to keep keep an eye on. Logan was 383 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: talking about, you know how exciting is to be teammates 384 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: with somebody like Aaron Judge. I mean, this is this 385 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: is really like a big deal for players, and I 386 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: see all sides of it. But if I were a team, 387 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: I'd be awfully nervous too. Logan Web's their most valuable 388 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: player for me, and I would not want If I 389 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: were the Giants, I would want to him treated with 390 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: absolute kid gloves. So a lot of that's going to 391 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: be up to Logan. He has to really be careful. 392 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: There are other guys, though, including Harrison Bader, who I 393 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: believe has plans to play for Team Israel. He was 394 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: supposed to in twenty three. He has said that he's 395 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: going to. I don't know if that's actually been officially 396 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: announced or confirmed, but that certainly sounded like a plan. 397 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: And then I was talking to Tristan Beck the other 398 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: day and he's playing for, you know, kind of I've 399 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: got the on spot, the soft spot for Team GB, 400 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: team Great Britain. His mom, Lucy is from the UK, 401 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: so so both both the Tristan and his brother Brendan 402 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: Beck will be playing for a team Great Britain Jazz 403 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: Chisholm Harry Ford whose real name is Harrison, so he's 404 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Harrison Ford also Team GB. So very excited on that. 405 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: And then I'm not sure. I think Elliott Ramos is 406 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: supposed to play for Team Puerto Rico but he's not 407 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: on their official roster, and William Doomas and Raphaeld Evers 408 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: are on the Dominican roster, but neither's been actually confirmed, 409 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: so I don't know what to think. 410 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Elsewhere. I was with Tristan in Scottsdale recently and he 411 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: had just gotten the call before he came and met 412 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: us for dinner, and he was like over the moon. 413 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, congratulations, that's awesome. He told me about 414 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: his mother's ties to Great Britain and he's pitching for 415 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: is it Great Britain, London, England, whatever. That's super cool 416 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: for him. What a great opportunity that is. And the 417 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: same thing be careful. Just be careful. I don't know 418 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: how you can't play baseball careful, because that's when you 419 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: get hurt. So that's where this whole thing is a 420 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: double edged sword for me. Like I'm happy for Tristan, 421 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy for Logan, I'm happy for Jung Who, and 422 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure Buster and Zach and everybody in the Giants 423 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: organizations just go hold their breasts. Maybe just look the 424 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: other way, like the guy that was climbing the building 425 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: last the other night on Netflix. I just said the 426 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: free solo the I couldn't watch. My hands were sweating. 427 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of same thing. Just look the other way. 428 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't watch that. But I'll be into it, I 429 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: mean hypocritically. I'll be into it because I'm always rooting 430 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: for the USA and I love Mark de Rosa and 431 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: boy they put a squad together. We'll see, we'll see 432 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: if those guys are ready to compete. Like it's October 433 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: in March. 434 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun stuff. One other snippet I have for 435 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: you from FanFest. Chatted with Hayden Birdsong because people keep 436 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: me mentioning bird Song sort of unprompted, including Logan Webb. 437 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: He was asked about the rotation, and completely unprompted, started 438 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: talking about Hayden Birdsong and how excited he is for 439 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Hayden this year. So she chatted with Hayden and asked 440 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: what he thought really jumped out with what went wrong 441 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: last year when he suddenly started walking people left and right, 442 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: the er took a jump, the strikeout stipped. You know, 443 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: he was We all know he was a mess. And 444 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: then he gets sent to Sacramento in late July. Really 445 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: was doing the same things at Sacramento the rest of 446 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: the way. That's why we never saw him again after. 447 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: You know, those first couple of months he was fantastic. 448 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: Now a lot of it was out of the bullpen, 449 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: but even his first few starts he looked really like 450 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: a fine and there's no this stuff is so great. 451 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: You know it's there, he says. His mechanics and he 452 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: kind of was demonstrated. I don't know if I can 453 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: I can really do it. 454 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: He said. 455 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: He was over bending, which apparently kept going like this, 456 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: and for those of you who are listening and not watching, 457 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: I'm leaning over to the side. So he was throwing 458 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 2: as himself really off center somehow, and he said, of 459 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: course this makes sense. His arm slot was affected. He 460 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: said it kind of it kind of gonna lean over 461 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: and your arm armslot goes up on the other side. 462 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: So uh, he's he's ironed that out, he said. He 463 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: the changes he's made, he said, you might not even 464 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: see with the naked eye, So I don't think it's 465 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: anything that extreme. But it was all in conjunction working 466 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: with the new coaching staff. He's really liking what he's seeing. 467 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: He's been in Phoenix since November fifteenth. This is new 468 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: for him. He usually stays in Illinois. Said this is 469 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: the first time he's been able to throw in cleats 470 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: in an off season ever. So he's going to be 471 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: ahead of the game from where he usually is and 472 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: hopes to have all of this ironed out. But Logan 473 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: Logan web was sold. He's seen him throwing and he 474 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: says he looks great. So we keep talking about the 475 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: rotation FP. But if you get one guy out of 476 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: that group of bird Song, wasn't Hunt Seymour Trevor McDonald, 477 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: Once there's a need or maybe if somebody's lights out 478 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: during the spring, maybe that solves sort of your underwhelming 479 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: Right now, back into the rotation issues. 480 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Wait, you were a badass catcher right, Oh, yeah, Susan 481 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: used to play and she was a catcher and she's 482 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: a badass, so when she's doing the throwing, she knows 483 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: exactly what she's talking about. 484 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: Oh, a legend of the Mission Trail Athletic League. 485 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: Heard all the stories every year. She was what gets 486 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: better and better and better about the high school in 487 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: college softball stories? 488 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, the tenius tiniest possible conference and for a school 489 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: that had really only recently gone co ed, So our 490 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: girls sports teams were pretty awful. 491 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: But no, sorry, the add Moment sponsored biaterall interesting enough. 492 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: At the Tony Q and A thing, we were taking 493 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: questions from fans and somebody stood up and said, Tony, 494 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: of all of your players on your current roster, who 495 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: are you most excited about, who are you most excited 496 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: to work with on a daily basis? And guess who? 497 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: He said, Yeah, that he's been dropping that. 498 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he's gonna say Chappie, or like I 499 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: can't wait to see Devers play every single day, or 500 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: Damas and I have really bonded on the career trip 501 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Jung Hu Lee. There's so much meat on the more 502 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: meat on the bone with him as a player, and 503 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: he went right to Hayden bird Song and he started 504 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: talking about the things you're talking about, how valuable he 505 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: is to the organization, how I've talked to players on 506 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: the team that said he has the best stuff bar 507 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: none in the organization, not with the Giants, in the 508 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: whole organization. So I thought that was really interesting for 509 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: the manager to bring him up when there's a lot 510 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: of other names I thought he was going to bring up. 511 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: So I think the Giants, based on what we're hearing 512 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: and what you're saying, are really banking on Hayden bird 513 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: Song being right. I think it was more mental than physical. 514 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: We can talk about this all we want. 515 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we approached it a little bit before, but yeah, 516 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: once it gets in your head right, it's hard to. 517 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's crazy, but once the wheels started spinning, 518 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: you could see it on the mound. He he's so demonstrative. 519 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: There is no poker face with Hayden bird Song. When 520 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: he's going good, He's walking around like Edbie Calvin Lloush 521 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: and you know he's like, wow, that was a great curveball, 522 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: and he's so he's so confident, But man, I was 523 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: in the game in Colorado when he was It was 524 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: a snowball fight and he didn't know where it was going. 525 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: And having never pitched pitchers, tell me that's the loneliest 526 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: place on the planet when you can't throw a strike. 527 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: And I was in the booth calling the game, and 528 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: I felt so bad for him because he just didn't 529 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: know where it was going, and it was getting borderline 530 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: the yip ward, and I was getting nervous that here's 531 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: this kid in his early twenties that could be a 532 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: superstar in an ACE on a lot of staffs. This 533 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: guy's got number one stuff, and it was starting to 534 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: get weird. So I hope all the weirdness is gone. 535 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: I hope the confidence is back. We saw him in 536 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: Fantasy camp. He was nice enough to come over and 537 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: talk to the campers. He was in kangaroo court. Great dude, 538 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: but he seemed to have that swagger back. So to me, 539 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: it's not about this or this. It's about believing in 540 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: yourself and going out there and just going right after 541 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: guys and believing in kid. 542 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: He's smart, he's funny, he's pretty self aware, which is 543 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: not something you always see in a young athlete. But 544 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: I really expect big things from him if he's got 545 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: this ironed out, which you know, sometimes there's no quick 546 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: fix to something like this. But here's another point. When 547 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: I talked to him last year early in this season, 548 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: when the Giant S numbers against opposing base runners were 549 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: so much better, largely because the logan web really cleaning 550 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: up the way he was handling base runners. But I 551 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: talked to every member of the rotation and a couple 552 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: of the relievers, and at that point, Hayden was in 553 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: the bullpen and we were talking about wind ups and 554 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: versus pitching out of the stretches. Most people know, most 555 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: relievers don't use a wind up at all. Hayden was 556 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: using a wind up when the bases were empty, and 557 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: he said it was his first year using a wind 558 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: up since he'd been in college. So there he is. 559 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: He winds up. You know, obviously coming out of the spring, 560 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 2: nobody knew whether it was going to be a starter, 561 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: maybe in Sacramento or in the bullpen in San Francisco, 562 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: but he was using the wind up. Obviously, when he 563 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: gets becomes a starter, he's using a full wind up. 564 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: He said he has not thrown out of the wind 565 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: up this offseason, and he might not, he said, unless 566 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: the new bunch of coaches comes up with something where 567 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: he feels really more comfort trouble, he might just go 568 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: out of this stretch all year. I've got no problem 569 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: with that. But we have also talked about with the 570 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: bullpen FP some of these young guys might wind up 571 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: there because that might be where there's the biggest need 572 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: if all things kind of go as projected with a rotation. 573 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily mind Bert Song in the bullpen. I'd 574 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: like to see him with maybe a bigger role if 575 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: he can handle it. You know, we'll see. 576 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 577 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: I don't want him to just be, you know, like 578 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: the basically six starter, emergency starter in the bullpen, mopping 579 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: games up well. 580 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Historically speaking, when you have tall guys with long levers, 581 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to repeat your delivery repeat abilities harder with 582 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the taller guys that are skinnier and they have all 583 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff going on and to get there. We 584 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: all remember Tim Linsekam right when he was having a 585 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: tough game, he would go out of the stretch with 586 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: nobody on out of nowhere because all of this was 587 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: off and so his like three would instead of a driver, 588 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: if you will, was going out of the stretch. But yeah, man, 589 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing. And I was told this by a 590 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: reliever who's recently retired, and he told me that his 591 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: philosophy of the bullpen is is just get wins in 592 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: April and may like piece it together. However you piece 593 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: it together because if you ride your horses early, look 594 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: at bullpen's numbers who have the lowest era at the 595 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: All Star break, they always go south in the second half. 596 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: So if you could just piece it together, stack up 597 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: wins in April and May and June and be in 598 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: the mix, then at the trade deadline you can go 599 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: out and get pieces to the bullpen that might be fresh, 600 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: or if you have to use your bullpen, it's more 601 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: fresh than the second half. The biggest mistake a lot 602 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: of managers make is they want to get out of 603 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: the gate and they're just cracking the whip on these 604 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: guys and they're using them too much. And look at 605 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: the numbers after the All Star break. Bullpen eras always 606 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: go in the tank unless you just piece it together, 607 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: get some wins, find some guys at the All Star breaks. 608 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: So I haven't panicked about the bullpen since I heard 609 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: that all off season. Just find a way to piece 610 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: it together initially, and then if you're in the mix 611 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: at the All Star break, you go out and get 612 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: a guy here. The Nationals did that in DC when 613 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: they won the World Series. They went out and got 614 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: some guys at the at the trade deadline. And I'm 615 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: saying All Star break, at the trade deadline and they 616 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: got some guys and pieced it together. 617 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, Ryan Walker told me he wants that 618 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: closer job back, and I like that. Wrote a story 619 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: on that at some point last week. I love the 620 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: fact that he is coming out with that. You know, 621 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: he's pretty quiet, not real demonstrative kind of guy, and 622 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: he's like, no, I want it. I'm just gonna you know, 623 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: he just came flat out and said it good that. 624 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: I think that is a that's an interesting shift maybe 625 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: in mindset, he said, he said, my mindset's changed. 626 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: So I liked it. 627 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: And he feels like he's ironed out some of the 628 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: mechanical things that he was dealing with. You talk about 629 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: guys who are prone to mechanical problems, a guy that's 630 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: crossfire like that. The funky deliveries are always a little 631 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: bit hinky. I think sometimes when it come to mechanics, 632 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: and sometimes coaching staffs are like so, I you know, 633 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: that would solve a lot of problems if they have 634 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: a young guy or two who winds up finding a 635 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: nice niche in the bookpen And if Ryan Walker can 636 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: be anything like he was two years ago, fantastic. 637 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: I like the attitude. I like that he's saying that, yeah, 638 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: but saying that in getting out on the mountain from 639 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: of forty thousand people with a one run lead in 640 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the ninth inning and steering that beast right in the 641 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: eye and overcoming whatever was going on last year or 642 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: two different stories. So if I'm Tony Vaitello, maybe I 643 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: bring him along in high leverage situations earlier in the game, 644 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: build a confidence level up until all of a sudden 645 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: there's a need in the ninth inning. But I can 646 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: say it all I want, Susan, until you got to 647 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: look that thing right in the eye. Man. You got 648 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: to go out there and you got to overcome whatever 649 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: was going on and we could see it. We talked 650 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: about on this podcast, we talked about on the broadcast 651 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: last year. It started going fast, just like Hayden Bird's song, 652 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's getting the ball shaking 653 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: and going, getting the ball shaking and going, and before 654 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: you knew it, it was four pitches and three runs. 655 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: And this is a guy with wipeout stuff two years ago. 656 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: The nastiest hitters are telling them, it's the nastiest stuff 657 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: that you could tell me it's coming and I can't 658 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: hit it. But something went a little wacky with maybe 659 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: the lights and all the stuff we talked about and 660 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: being the closer, that's a lot of responsibility, right. If 661 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: I get these three outs, we win. If I get 662 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: these three outs, we're shaking hands, which is huge. It's 663 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: hard to win one game, just one game of the 664 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: big leagues. And if you get away from the process 665 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: of staying pitch by pitch, hit her by hitter, one 666 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: pitch at a time, and that's the process, you look 667 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: up in the third outs made and you're shaking hands. 668 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: But if you start to get ahead of yourself and thinking, oh, 669 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm two outs away, I'm one out away from winning 670 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: this game, you're losing your focus on the present. And 671 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: that's that. 672 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: Pitch well in confidence too, and Ryan's talked some about 673 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: his struggles with mental health in past years, and he 674 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: is really you know, he's had therapy, he's really worked 675 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: through a lot of things. It's this is a stressful, 676 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: stressful sport, all pro sports. I think fans sometimes discount 677 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: how stressful they are. The pressure is enormous, The money 678 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: now is in your enormous, and I would argue that 679 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: relievers get more of that than anybody, especially now with 680 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: the rise of legalized betting. They are constantly hearing from fans, 681 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: not just in the crowd, but they you know, they 682 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: get death threat death threats pretty routinely. Uh, they have 683 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: you know, they're all sorts of things that they deal with, 684 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: like their social media. Usually now they say, if you're 685 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: a reliever, especially get off of social media. That's easier 686 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: to say than do sometimes and people see stuff. You 687 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: see stuff, and if you don't, your wife or your 688 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: agent to your best friend, you know, people are relaying 689 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: to you what people are saying, and it's it is 690 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: not easy. So, uh, confidence can be all sometimes in 691 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: a role like that. And I I love hearing that 692 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: this is he is not the guy a guide to 693 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: tude his own horn. When he said it, I was 694 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: sort of like, wait, what he said? It a couple 695 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: of times while we were talking, so that that's neat. 696 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: I I hope it translates. So this is this is 697 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: a fun time of year FP as we keep saying, 698 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: we could, we could just assume all of this thing. 699 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: These things are going to work out, right right. 700 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: I used to get death threats before social media, but 701 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: it was from my family, oh after games when I 702 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: went over for all right, Susan, another episode in the books. 703 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Can I tease what's gonna happen on Friday? Do you 704 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: think I should? 705 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: I think you should? I mean you are. There's always 706 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: a caveat that. Sometimes we have guests and they you know, 707 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: travel scat schedules or just life sometimes interrupts. But we 708 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: do have somebody who has agreed to join the pod 709 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: on the show on Friday, Bruce Bochie. 710 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: Bruce bochis coming on here and time World Series Champion. Oh, 711 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: I got to almost screw that up. And future Hall 712 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: of Fame manager who's back with the organization is going 713 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: to join splash It Territory this Friday, So stay tuned 714 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: for that, Susan. Great job. Once again, you guys like 715 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: and subscribe and go. I mean, you got a former 716 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: ballplayer here. That's a broadcaster. You got a Hall of 717 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: Fame beat writer here that's in the clubhouse every day. 718 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: We're giving you a different perspective on this show. It's 719 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: really going to ramp up and get super good once 720 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: the season starts and we can just be like, Hey, 721 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Eldridge, you want to come on our show, And 722 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: we're there every day. But we're there. I travel with 723 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: the team. I'm in the clubhouse every day. Susan travels, 724 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: she's in the clubhouse every day. So this is just 725 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: a different vibe we're going to give you on this show, 726 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: So tell all your friends about it. I forgot to 727 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: pump it up at the Tony thing. There was like 728 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: six hundred people there that night. But I'm on CAMBR Tuesday, 729 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, Tuesday night, Thursday night, Friday night, so i 730 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: will be pumping up our podcast and I really don't 731 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: care if the sports leader gets mad at me for 732 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: doing that. So thanks for watching again, everybody. Today it 733 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: was a fun one. Harrison Bakers, a San Francisco giant, 734 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: got a crappy clawie fighty guy that's got a lot 735 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: of swagger him and inseparable. Oh my goodness, those two together, 736 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be fun. Susan, thanks a lot for 737 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: joining today. 738 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely always my pleasure. 739 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: F P. 740 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 2: What do you say on the way out? 741 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: Usually I always well, it's my motto for life. Swing 742 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: hard in case you hit it on Splash Hit territory