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Speaker 1: coming back? And this is our seam Heead edition. Our

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Speaker 1: guests today is Mike Sure, the mind behind Parks and

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Speaker 1: Rec Brooklyn ninety nine. He was also a part of

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Speaker 2: And a lunatic baseball fan.

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Speaker 1: That is the big point here is you might be thinking,

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Speaker 1: Mike Sure, why is he on this baseball father son podcast?

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Speaker 1: He loves baseball and knows so many great stats and

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Speaker 1: That's coming up.

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Speaker 3: And we're also excited that today is your second anniversary

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Speaker 3: of your wedding.

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Speaker 2: You and Emily were married.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago today. Congratulations, Thank you. Emily looked great

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Speaker 3: that day.

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Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? That was an amazing day we

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Speaker 1: and you know, the night before we did the rehearsal dinner.

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Speaker 1: But to nights before the wedding was we went to

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Speaker 3: You sang the national anthem when we didn't even know

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Speaker 2: It was a wonderful night, Jeff. It was really good.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't as good, by the way as pud Rodriguez's

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Speaker 2: He got married in the morning, and in the.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon he got called up to make his major league debut,

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Speaker 3: Now that's a pretty good first look, would you say.

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Speaker 1: Now, I've only been a husband for two years, but

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned it's the seamhead addition, Dan, to you,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the official definition of a seamhead is.

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Speaker 3: The broad definition is it's just anyone who loves baseball

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Speaker 2: He came up with.

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Speaker 3: The qualifications as a writer to be a seamhead. You

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Speaker 2: For me, this is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: But as you know, Jeff, I cut out every box

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Speaker 3: You remember this When I used to do this every

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Speaker 3: You watched him clip out stuff like he was seven

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Speaker 3: I cut out every box Score for twenty years and

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Speaker 3: And that's the only reason I stopped cutting out the

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Speaker 1: I get that right totally. All right, let's take some

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Speaker 1: We released an episode every single Tuesday at midnight, so

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Speaker 1: thank you for following and subscribing. You can also catch

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Speaker 3: Every week has been great, by the way, Jeff, he

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. One of the Dodgers told.

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Speaker 3: Everything he does, every movement he makes is surgical. There

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Speaker 3: And I thought you would like this. Ranger Suarez of

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Speaker 1: Dog, right, Yeah, we just welcomed a puppy into our

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Speaker 3: Reasons, right, but the Oakland A's have been way better

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Speaker 3: Willie Mays on this date hit four home runs in

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Speaker 1: make that, MISSI.

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Speaker 2: Make every week? You make that weekake and.

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Speaker 1: One am my magician pull a rabbit out of a hat. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you watch on YouTube as well, you can

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Speaker 1: actually see the cards that we're pulling from this pack,

447
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Speaker 1: and then we'll be able to you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: see so uh, mike Yastremsky.

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Speaker 3: So this, of course is the grandson of Carly U. Stremsky,

450
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Speaker 3: the great Hall of Famer, one of the great number

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Speaker 3: eights of all time.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that some other time.

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Speaker 3: And I want to ask Mike, I said, did you

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Speaker 3: ever consider wearing your dad's jersey, your grandfather's number. He

455
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Speaker 3: looked at me and he goes, there's enough pressure having

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Speaker 3: you Strepsky on my back. I don't need to wear

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Speaker 3: number eight. That's why he wears number five.

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Speaker 1: The real pressure is on the uniform guy to spell it.

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Speaker 3: Correctly, right, imagine why s t r z e m

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Speaker 3: Ski All right, We've got Johann Durant all right now.

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Speaker 2: He is the closer for the Twins. Jeff.

462
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Speaker 3: He throws one hundred. I saw him pitch a game

463
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Speaker 3: at Minute Made Field in Houston. I was scared to

464
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Speaker 3: death that someone was going to get killed. That's how

465
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Speaker 3: hard he throws. That's and by the way, he also faced,

466
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Speaker 3: by the way, Ezekiel Durand So we had the Duran

467
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Speaker 3: Duran matchup, which I explained, which I told Roxy Bernstein

468
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Speaker 3: when we did a game on the radio together. I said, oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, we had a Duran Duran. And Roxy,

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Speaker 3: who loves and knows everything about music, said well, what's

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Speaker 3: your what's your favorite Duran Durant song? And I said,

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Speaker 3: I have, I don't know what any and he really

473
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Speaker 3: he took me on on the air. You're decent, You're

474
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Speaker 3: sixty six years old and you don't know one song.

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Speaker 3: Do you know a Duranda Rant song?

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Speaker 1: No? But I'm also thirty. I think there's an excuse.

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Speaker 2: I feel better. No one on the podcasts those are

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Speaker 2: durand Urant song.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, fact that you've been to how many concerts three,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is Yellow Card.

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Speaker 3: Yellow Card is Kenny Chesney, right, and the other's Dan Fogelberg.

482
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Speaker 3: And if you remember, I got Yellow Card mixed up

483
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Speaker 3: with Green Day.

484
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Speaker 2: I called it green Card.

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Speaker 3: I screwed up the whole thing. That's why I don't

486
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Speaker 3: go to concerts.

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Speaker 1: All right. Next up, oh, legendary Hall of Famer one day,

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Speaker 1: Mike Trout.

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Speaker 3: All right, Mike Trout is one of the greatest players

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Speaker 3: of all time, the greatest number twenty seven ever and

491
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Speaker 3: we'll go down as one of the ten to fifteen

492
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Speaker 3: greatest players ever perhaps someday. So this is how playfully

493
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Speaker 3: is and how competitive is. Raoul Labanya's told me this story.

494
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Speaker 3: They were in spring training years ago and Mike Trout's

495
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Speaker 3: taking VP and he says to the guys on the cage,

496
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Speaker 3: I'm going to hit a home run in that trash can.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, it's not a dumpster, Jeff, It's a

498
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Speaker 3: green trash can beyond the left center field fence. And

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Speaker 3: like thirteen pitches later, he had a home run into

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Speaker 3: the trash can. And then Raoul told me that Trout

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Speaker 3: did it again that spring after predicting he was going

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Speaker 3: to do it. So I went to Trout, who's the

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Speaker 3: most humble kid in the world. I said, did this happen?

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Speaker 3: He refused to answer. I said, damn it. Did you

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Speaker 3: hit a ball the trash can? He goes, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: hit it a trash can. Okay, that's how good Mike

507
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Speaker 3: Trout is. He can hit a home run three hundred

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Speaker 3: and ninety feet into a trash can.

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Speaker 1: Another future Hall of Famer Clayton Kershaw our final for

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Speaker 1: It's in the cards. Well, of course, one of the

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Speaker 1: great pitchers of all time. He has the lowest era

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Speaker 1: of any pitcher with that many innings since nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's how great Clayton Kershaw is.

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Speaker 3: And on this date, by the way, Jeff, he became

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Speaker 3: the all time strikeout leader for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: And you know, to pass Dry and Sutton and Kofax

517
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Speaker 3: is pretty darn good. And I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: know this yet, but I love anagrams. Okay, So I took.

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Speaker 3: I was on a flight in a middle seat once,

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Speaker 3: flying from Connecticut to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: City, and I was so bored.

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Speaker 3: I just worked on a bunch of names and saw

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Speaker 3: what they came out.

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Speaker 2: Within an anagram.

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Speaker 3: The anagram for Clayton Kershaw is la K hero wants SI.

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Speaker 3: That's Clayton Kershaw's using every letter.

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Speaker 2: Every letter, every letter.

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Speaker 3: You could say la si hero wants K, but in

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Speaker 3: this case, since he's a strikeout leader, it's la K

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Speaker 3: hero wants SI. That's what I did in the middle

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Speaker 3: seat on Southwest for an entire flight.

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Speaker 1: I sometimes don't know what to think about your steft.

533
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Speaker 2: What is the theme of today? Steam heads?

534
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Speaker 3: What does a seam head do when he has nothing

535
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Speaker 3: else to do? He tries to come up with an

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Speaker 3: anagram for Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and you look at people like Robert Langdon,

538
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Speaker 1: the fictional character from Da Vinci Code. He solves crimes

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Speaker 1: with mind right, right.

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Speaker 3: Vincy, these great moments your grandfather in the history of

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Speaker 3: mankime right along with National Treasure, our two guilty pleasures.

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Speaker 3: I can't stop watching them if they come on here.

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Speaker 1: Like your sixty sixth birthday, we were right here in

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Speaker 1: the house and we turned on the Da Vinci Code

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Speaker 1: and Treasure.

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Speaker 2: That is so bad, all right.

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Speaker 1: So one of my favorite moments in the show is

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Speaker 1: League in Lids. So I actually have a surprise for

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Speaker 1: the show for you, Dad. So we were using before

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Speaker 1: a hat that was very significant to us. It was

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Speaker 1: a hat that says team Tim when my dad was

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Speaker 1: inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame. My mom

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Speaker 1: and my sister designed him. My mom created him and

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Speaker 1: we made hats.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I thought it would be only fitting with our

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Speaker 1: friend's lids. I went onto their website and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to find a hat that would be perfect for this segment.

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Speaker 1: But you and I both know, right we're not a

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Speaker 1: podcast about one team. So I just typed in MLB

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Speaker 1: and look what I got.

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Speaker 4: Look at this lid.

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Speaker 1: Wow from lids.

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Speaker 2: Now that is a cap.

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Speaker 1: It has all that all thirty teams, all thirty teams.

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Speaker 1: That is so great in really high quality stitching. And

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Speaker 1: trust me when I say I was. I was excited

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Speaker 1: when I saw this. I said, this is perfect for

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Speaker 1: the segment, But when I got it, I was even

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Speaker 1: more impressed with just the overall quality. And now I'm

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Speaker 1: scared to touch it because it's so beautiful. I just

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Speaker 1: want to hang it up on the wall. So what

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Speaker 1: we do is we put all of the teams in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball in the lids. Right here are new lids,

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Speaker 1: and we take one out every week and then we

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Speaker 1: leave them out so we'll never have a repeat. And

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Speaker 1: this week Colorado Rockies been off. I'm sorry, Ben a

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00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: tough start to the season, but I mean they've been

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Speaker 1: in the news with the Mexico Series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, poor, poor Rockies. They have really had a

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Speaker 3: terrible year. And Jeff, all their first twenty eight games

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Speaker 3: of the season, they have trailed at one point or

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Speaker 3: another in all twenty eight of their games this year.

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Speaker 3: That ties for the longest in modern Major League history.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, only in baseball can modern history

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Speaker 3: be described as nineteen hundred on that is modern history.

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Speaker 3: The eighteen eighty seven Metropolitans featuring Candy Nelson, they went

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Speaker 3: twenty nine their first twenty nine games into a season,

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Speaker 3: and I feel sorry for the Rockies. They play in

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Speaker 3: a beautiful ballpark. I love Denver, but the elevation doesn't

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Speaker 3: help them there. Jet the curveball doesn't break the same

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Speaker 3: way there, and even though you can score more runs there,

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Speaker 3: when you go on the road after playing at home,

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Speaker 3: now you're going to see a curveball that has really

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Speaker 3: Chris break to it. So I think it works against them.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one small reason that they've never won

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Speaker 3: the World Series. And then they went to Mexico, which

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Speaker 3: was a great two game series with the Astros, but

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Speaker 3: they go to Mexico and the elevation there was higher

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Speaker 3: than it was at in Denver, so they didn't get

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Speaker 3: any breaks when they did that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so awesome that Major League Baseball is expanding.

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Speaker 1: I got into a little tiff with somebody on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Bad Idea about it. They said, why are we focused

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Speaker 1: so much on international? I said, baseball is so important

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Speaker 1: to the Latin American culture and now the Japanese culture

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Speaker 1: with all these players, and you're going to London again

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 3: From the London Jeff, We've been over this. Baseball is

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Speaker 3: an international game. Football is trying to get international, but

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Speaker 3: there is International's International House of Pancakes. Baseball really matters

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Speaker 3: when it comes to international games.

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Speaker 1: Mike Sure is our guest. He is the creator of

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Speaker 1: Parks and Rack and Brooklyn ninety nine, who's also a

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Speaker 1: huge part of the Office, the American version of the

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Speaker 1: Office here, and we're going to get to him because

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Speaker 1: he is a massive steamhead. Before though seamheads, Dad, you

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Speaker 1: didn't steam Head Edition to Baseball Tonight on ESPN for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years and I loved every bit of it.

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Speaker 1: I love seamheads, Jeff Okay. Seamheads are just people that

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Speaker 1: have an unhealthy addiction to the game, but in a

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Speaker 1: really good way. Mark Simon, who used to be a

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Speaker 1: great researcher at ESPN and is still all over the place.

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Speaker 1: He can tell you who made the last out of

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Speaker 1: every World Series back to nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. That's impossible to do.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Bennett another former great researcher at ESPN who's moved

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Speaker 3: way up the ranks there. He can tell you what

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Speaker 3: every baseball card looks like from nineteen eighty two through

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Speaker 3: eighty five.

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Speaker 2: So I once tested him.

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Speaker 3: I said, robbing you out in nineteen eighty two, and

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Speaker 3: he said he's He had two cards that year. One

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Speaker 3: he's like hitting a line driving, the other he's running

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Speaker 3: out of the box, two different cards. He got them

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Speaker 3: both with just a random name that I threw out there.

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Speaker 3: Jud Birch, who works for ESPN. He's our fire expert

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Speaker 3: at ESPN. You can ask him any night, because I

639
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: did one night on a random Tuesday in August. I

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Speaker 3: said who's working second base in Texas tonight?

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Speaker 2: And he thought he goes Adrian Johnson.

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Speaker 3: He knew the second base umpire on a random Tuesday

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Speaker 3: night game in August in Texas.

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Speaker 1: That isn't he the one who put together the umpire

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Speaker 1: ejection fantasy league.

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Speaker 3: We'll get that when we have our fantasy We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that when we have our fantasy show.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 3: The Great George Will. George Will is a seam head,

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Speaker 3: there's no question. And when he goes to a hotel

651
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Speaker 3: and he's a big Cubs fan.

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Speaker 1: Wait like the political comedy George, Well, yes, doctor Will.

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Speaker 3: He's like the smartest man I've ever met. But when

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Speaker 3: he checks into a hotel, he always remembers the room

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Speaker 3: number based on uniform numbers for the Cubs. So if

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Speaker 3: he's in fourteen thirty one, that's an easy one. That's

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Speaker 3: Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins. There used to be a guy

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Speaker 3: named Mike Well, he's still there, Mike Pettica. I met

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Speaker 3: him late seventies, early eighties. Get this, Jeff in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: He was an AP writer and he could figure out

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Speaker 3: any batting average that you gave him in his head.

662
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: In a matter of seconds.

663
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Speaker 3: So if I said, Mike hundred and twenty seven hits

664
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Speaker 3: five hundred and fifteen at bats, he would have it

665
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: like that, like in two seconds.

666
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: That is really weird.

667
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: And this is the true story the great David Vincent

668
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: who worked for Saber, and I'm a Saber member.

669
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: Your grandfather Pop was the Saber. I love Saber.

670
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. Those people are all out of

671
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: their minds. In fact, I spoke at the Saber convention

672
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: like two years ago and that was my opening line

673
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: to the three hundred people in the room.

674
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: Every one of you is crazy.

675
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: And they all laughed because they all recognized this is

676
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: what seamhead people do.

677
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: They're amazing. And of course, our dear friend Jim Henneman, who.

678
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: Just had the press box named after him at Oriel

679
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: Park at Camden Yards, is a seam head for a

680
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: different reason because he has covered the game for over

681
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: sixty five years still loves every second of every game

682
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: he watches. And I'm telling you, Jeff, no writer has

683
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: ever understood the playing of the game better than our

684
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: friend Jim Henneman. And just in memorial, we have Howie Schwab,

685
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: who used to work at ESPN who was a baseball seamhead.

686
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: He recently died, but Howie was a seam head for

687
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: every sport, Baseball, basketball, Olympics, everything. He had his own

688
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: show called Stump the Schwabs. People still talk about that show,

689
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: and no.

690
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: One could stump.

691
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: I was afraid of Howie because I was not about

692
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: to get in a battle of wits with him, because

693
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: he would clean my clock.

694
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned saber a little bit earlier. I'm glad

695
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: you pronounced it right. Not sabre from my office. Fans

696
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: out there dun to miflin. It's a part of sabre.

697
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: This is so exciting.

698
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: This is at the office. This is important.

699
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: When you meet a player or someone who wears a

700
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: uniform who had some seamhead qualities, that's the person you're

701
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: immediately attracted to. Like Gene Mauk, one of the great

702
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: managers ever. He showed me once by hand, how to

703
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: look at a box score and using left on bass

704
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: grounding and double plays, you could figure out who made

705
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: the last out of a game just by looking at

706
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: the box scor sometimes obvious, but most times it's not.

707
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: That's what a manager showed me how to do. In

708
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: the mid eighties, Aaron Boone, of course, the manager of

709
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: the Yankees, is the biggest seam head that I've ever met.

710
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: I used to play a game.

711
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: Called from Ozzie to Oral, where we would name the

712
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: greatest players of all time at each number one through

713
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: fifty five, and he knew all the numbers, and he

714
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: knew numbers of players that even I didn't know in

715
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: some cases, like I said, all right, what number did

716
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: Johnny Ray wear? He's a good second basement, but not

717
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: great second basement. And he went like this with the

718
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: with the Pirates or with the angels, like you know,

719
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: you got to tell me what.

720
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: She is, right right? So Boonie was the greatest of that.

721
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: And do you have a baseball card there? Give me

722
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: a baseball card? Line. Yeah, So this is what Boonie

723
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: can do.

724
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: He can take any baseball card, look at it, and

725
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: he can tell you in which stadium the picture is taken.

726
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: And he would routinely.

727
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: Send me when we work together, he would send me

728
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: baseball cards and say which stadium was just taken it?

729
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 3: And nine out of ten times I got it wrong.

730
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: I would send it back to him, or and I

731
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: would give him a baseball card and he would look

732
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: at it and he goes Candlestick Park, don't waste my time.

733
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: I mean, that's how good Boonie is at this. He

734
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: can do everybody's batting stands. He is different than everyone else,

735
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: but he's not the only guy in uniform who can

736
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: do that. Marcus Simeon of the Rangers, he and I

737
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: were at the batting cage last year during the ALCS.

738
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, we have more important things to talk about,

739
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: and we were talking about I was talking about the

740
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: year that Barry Bonds walked two hundred and thirty times.

741
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: Kasimi goes, it was two thirty two. That's what he said,

742
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: and he was right, which.

743
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: I just I just love that he got that right

744
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: instead of me.

745
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: I also wanted to mention, Oh yeah, Colin McHugh, former reliever,

746
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: he'll be back in the big leagues.

747
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: I love this.

748
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: I had written something about Frank Robinson once and Colin

749
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: mchughe just came up to me and asked me, I

750
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: need to know more about Frank Robinson. I need to

751
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: talk to you someday about Frank Robinson, who'd retired like

752
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: forty years earlier, but he was still interested in Frank

753
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: Robinson's playing career. I just love that Kevin Polar, major

754
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: league outfielder for years. Last year we're talking about something

755
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: and he just out of nowhere says, all right, who's

756
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 3: your mount Rushmore of switch hitters? Who are your four

757
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 3: greatest switch hitters of all time? And he had his list,

758
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 3: which no player in uniform ever thinks about anything like that.

759
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: And then we went.

760
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: Through all this stuff that only a seam head baseball

761
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 3: writer would have with another baseball writer, but now I'm

762
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: having it with a baseball player.

763
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: And my favorite one about all.

764
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: These is Terry Kennedy, who's capt with the Orioles a

765
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: million years ago when I covered the team. So just

766
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: two weeks ago, on a Saturday morning, he just sends

767
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: me this random text, seventeen players have won ten goal gloves.

768
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: Name them.

769
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean, after all these years, he's still sending me

770
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: random text because he's still really interested in how many

771
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: guys won ten goal gloves. So there I am on

772
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: a Saturday morning with a wedding to go to that afternoon,

773
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: and now I just have to put my head down

774
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: and get all seventeen, which eventually I did, but it

775
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 3: was torture.

776
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Believe me.

777
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: We've got a great seamhead guest who hopefully is going

778
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: to convince you to do the immaculate grid at some point,

779
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: because I know he does.

780
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: It every day.

781
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: Mike sure Of. It's just one of the greatest television

782
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: writers of our time. Created Parks and Rec Brooklyn ninety nine,

783
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: was a big part of the Office. He's going to

784
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: be joining us a big seamhead himself. Next on is

785
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: this a great game or what? Is this a great

786
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: game of what? And our guest this week is Mike

787
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: sure Now he's not a baseball player, he's not a

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: general manager, but he is a seamhead. Mike Shore has

789
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: been involved in so many incredible things, including The Office,

790
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: Parks and Rec Brooklyn ninety nine, Saturday Night Live. He

791
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: was a writer. I mean, the list goes on and on.

792
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: And Mike, thank you so much for joining our podcast.

793
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: We've been so excited to have you on.

794
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: It is my great pleasure. And I have a general rule,

795
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: which is, if anyone in the country, nay the world,

796
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 5: wants to talk to me about baseball, I will appear

797
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: on a screen and talk about baseball. That's just a

798
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: rule to live by, and I've followed it my whole

799
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 5: life and it's never steered me wrong.

800
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: And as a tribute to you, Mike, I wore my

801
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: Walter Johnson sweatshirt because you may or may not know,

802
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: I went to Walter Johnson High School in Bethesda, Maryland,

803
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: named after the greatest pitcher of all time.

804
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: So this is just for you.

805
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: Do you know that my friend Dan Gore, who created

806
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: Brooklyn nine nine with me, also went to Walter Johnson

807
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 5: High School in Bethesda, Maryland.

808
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: No way, I didn't know that.

809
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: Yes, I wonder crowd.

810
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: Walter Johnson alum he he went to. He went there

811
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 5: for a couple of years and then transferred to a

812
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 5: school called Saint Anne's in Brooklyn.

813
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: But he talks a lot about Walter Johnson High School.

814
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, you have that in common, right.

815
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: I worked for the school paper. It was called The Pitch.

816
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 2: I did some work for the yearbook. It was called

817
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: The Wine.

818
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never mind. So, Mike, we love baseball. I

819
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: just want to know first from you. Your love of

820
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: the game is unparalleled. The first time I ever met

821
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: you was over the phone, and I couldn't believe what

822
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: a baseball dork you were, and what a baseball nerd

823
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: you were.

824
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Where did that come from for you.

825
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 5: Pretty classic story, I would say, which is I'm five

826
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 5: years old. I was living in suburban Massachusetts just for

827
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: a year because my dad took a job in Boston,

828
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: and my dad's college roommate bought me a rack pack

829
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: of Tops baseball cards nineteen eighty one Tops Baseball cards,

830
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: and some magical flame got lit like I looked at them,

831
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: I opened them, I poured over them, I stared at them,

832
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: I organized them.

833
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 4: Just something happened.

834
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: And then my dad I got very into the game,

835
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 5: like in theory, and I read the box scores. My

836
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 5: mom claims that I taught myself to read what reading

837
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 5: box scores in the newspaper. And then my dad took

838
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 5: me to Fenway. I still remembered I was. I was

839
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: literally five years old. I remember walking through the concourse,

840
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: through the crowd out the tunnel and seeing.

841
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: The field for the first time.

842
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: And I know, this is the biggest cliche among baseball dorgs,

843
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 5: This is as cliche as it gets. But I saw

844
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 5: the green field and I saw the monster, and I

845
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 5: have never been the same. It was just it became

846
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 5: my truest my first and truest and deepest love was

847
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: the game and the vibe and the feeling and the

848
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 5: noise and the crowd.

849
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: Red Sox won that day. I believe they won eight

850
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 4: to nothing.

851
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: I believe Dwight Evans had four or five RBI And

852
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: from that moment on, it was just the thing that

853
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 5: I loved and I still love it more than any

854
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 5: other sport.

855
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Was it a happy accident that on the cast of

856
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: the Office there were so many Boston based, like born

857
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: and raised John Krasinski famously from the Boston area, there

858
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: was quite a few Red Sox fans in that case.

859
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 5: John John is from I want to say Newton. Bj

860
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: Novak is from I think also Newton, Mindy Kalings from Lexington.

861
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 5: Steve Carell's from acting like I was from Hartford slash

862
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 5: wells Ley for that one year. So yeah, it's a

863
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: little bit of a happy accident. Although there is an

864
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 5: enormous contingent of Boston people in Hollywood generally, like you

865
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: run into them all the time. It's a it's a

866
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 5: place that I mean, it has a ton of colleges,

867
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: right and there's a lot of improv comedy and sketch

868
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 5: comedy and stand up comedy. So it's a it was

869
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: a little bit of an accident, but it's also not

870
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: wildly out of uh.

871
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: You know, out of the norm for any TV show. Really.

872
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Now, I nerded out before the interview about how much

873
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I love The Office and Parks and Rec. So I'm

874
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: not going to go down that rabbit hole too much.

875
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: But if there was one cast member of either The

876
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Officer Parks and Rec that you think would be the

877
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: most fun to go to a baseball game with, maybe

878
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: even to a Red Sox game, who would it be?

879
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: Oh, boy, the Office or Parks and Rec.

880
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: You're saying, yeah, Well, you know, Jim Halpern was a

881
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 5: was a was a baseball fan, was a sports fan

882
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 5: really more of an NBA fan, I would say, but.

883
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: He certainly knew a lot about sports. He is up there.

884
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: I would say it would be fun to go with

885
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: Leslie Nope, because it would probably be fun to do

886
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: just about anything with Leslie.

887
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: Nope.

888
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: Uh, it would be fun to go with Andy Dwyer

889
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: Chris Pratt's character, because he was a big sports fan,

890
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 5: and also he would just be a delight. He would

891
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 5: drink eleven beers and and you know, and have a

892
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 5: have a great time. There's a lot of characters on

893
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 5: that on those two shows, who would probably be a

894
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 5: good baseball date, But those are I would say those

895
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 5: are my top three.

896
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: Who was your guy on the Red Sox? Who is

897
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: the guy that you looked at and said, that's my

898
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: guy I.

899
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 5: Have been for for so long Red Sox fans were

900
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 5: quite literally cursed, and then starting when Pedro showed up,

901
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 5: then it's been this embarrassment of riches. We had Nomar,

902
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 5: we had Pedro, we had Ortees. We've had so many

903
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: guys who have brought me so much joy and happiness

904
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: it's hard to even count now. I was doing a

905
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 5: book of event I do a podcast with Joe Posnanski.

906
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: I was doing a book event with him and we

907
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: were taking questions from the audience, and someone from the

908
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: audience said, if you could have only ever had one

909
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 5: of these two guys on your team, or Tease and Pedro,

910
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 5: who would you choose? And it is the most agonizing

911
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: fifteen minutes of my life trying to try and trying

912
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 5: to I literally I got up and I paced around

913
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 5: the stage and I like I had an immediate tension headache,

914
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 5: like the idea of having to choose one of those

915
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: two guys, was too painful, and I I mean, at

916
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: the end of the day, I think I said or

917
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 5: tease just because he was on the team longer. But

918
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 5: both of those guys, those are my two favorite Red

919
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 5: Sox of all time.

920
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: I have to say, you two are way too similar

921
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: because Mike, you've heard of immaculate grid.

922
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 4: Of course, so have I heard of immaculate glass.

923
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Very baseball fan knows immaculate grid. So all my buddies

924
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: are texting me when it really started to catch fire,

925
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: right and saying, Jeff, your dad's got to do this.

926
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: You got to You gotta to him.

927
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: And I sat down with him and there was one

928
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: and I wish I could remember which one it was.

929
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: He was pacing the floor and he told me this

930
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: is no longer fun because if I don't get this

931
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: right every time with the most rarity score, then I'm

932
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna get killed on Twitter. And these are the things

933
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: that he worries about, which I understand. But you were

934
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: pacing the floor because that's how much you love to

935
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: know the game.

936
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: It's clear I'm only good at one thing, and this

937
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: is it knowing stupid, obscure.

938
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 2: Arcane baseball stats.

939
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 3: That's why the immaculate Grid is work for me as

940
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: opposed to pleasure for me, because if I get something wrong,

941
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: that's the end of it for me.

942
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 5: So by the way, I yeah, I was gonna say,

943
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, look, I get that and

944
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 5: I and I don't blame you, but there are I

945
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 5: I this is not my primary job.

946
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: And I have learned.

947
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: I have had to curb myself because at the height

948
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 5: of immaculate Grid, I was probably spending two to three

949
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 5: hours a day and and I because I would be

950
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 5: down to one square left and I would be like,

951
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that Damon Buford played for the Rangers,

952
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: but I'm not one hundred percent sure. I know he

953
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: played for the Cubs, but I don't know if he

954
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 5: played for the Rangers. And suddenly I was like, I'm

955
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 5: wasting my life.

956
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 4: I have children.

957
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 5: I have a sixteen year old child and a fourteen

958
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 5: year old child, and I'm ignoring them trying to remember

959
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: whether Damon Buford played for the Rangers. So here's what

960
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: I did. I don't know if this will help you.

961
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: I gave myself five minutes. I do it in five minutes,

962
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 5: and if I get something wrong, I get something wrong.

963
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 5: But I just I wake up in the morning, I

964
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 5: have a cup of coffee, I go to immaculate Grid,

965
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: and I give myself five minutes, and as a result,

966
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 5: I don't get I'm not immaculate very often. I usually get,

967
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 5: you know, six out of nine because time's running out,

968
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 5: and you just gotta say, I think Damon Buford played.

969
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: For the Rangers.

970
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 5: And then so you could try it that way where

971
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 5: you're like, look, if I get something wrong, oh well

972
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 5: I only had five minutes. If I took two hours,

973
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 5: I could probably get it all right. And that has

974
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: proven to be effective.

975
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you can convince my dad because every time

976
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: we get together for a weekend or of a ca

977
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not working this weekend, Javas.

978
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 2: It's not work. It's fun.

979
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: It's Macula grid.

980
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: But it's not fun for him.

981
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: You two are such steam heads, and I love the

982
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: stats that you both love to share with each other.

983
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Is there, Mike a stat because that's this is my

984
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: dad's entire capacity of his brains are strange statistics. Right.

985
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: He has to.

986
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: Scratch his head a minute to think of my birthday.

987
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: But you know he could tell you when the MVP

988
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy.

989
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 3: I could tell you the fifteen guys who've hit forty

990
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: homers in a season with four letters or less in

991
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: their last name, Mike, he can tell.

992
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: You the home run leader for every single player's first

993
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: letter of their.

994
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: Last name, right, like the oh.

995
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: I used to be able to do that. I used

996
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 4: to be able to do that.

997
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 5: I memorize that list, but it is so outdated now,

998
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 5: and there's so like, so many people have been replaced

999
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: on that list, especially in the like late nineties, early

1000
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 5: two thousands. All the guys are gone now, It's no,

1001
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 5: there's none of the early guys are gone or are

1002
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 5: they still there?

1003
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: Mike.

1004
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 3: I can't even get to tell you how happy I

1005
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: was when Chase Utley and Ryan Zimmerman in like a

1006
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: three week period became the greatest you and the greatest Z.

1007
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: A lot of the time, these are the things that

1008
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: I pay attention to. The question is, Mike, is there

1009
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: a list that you know? Is there a stat that

1010
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: you know that is so unhealthy that you know it,

1011
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 3: but at least you know it and you're proud of it.

1012
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 5: To be clear, they are all unhealthy. Yeah, right, let's

1013
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 5: just start with that.

1014
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are many.

1015
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I Sarah Langs are your friend of mine.

1016
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 5: Sarah Langs had that stat about Prince and Cecil Fielder

1017
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: that I loved so.

1018
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: Much, the best three hundred and nineteen homers, the best right.

1019
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 4: Each of them.

1020
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 5: Three hundred nineteen homers and the same exact num of

1021
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: home runs in four different innings, Like it was the

1022
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: same number of fourth inning homers, same inning number of

1023
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 5: fifth inning homers, same number of two out homers. I

1024
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 5: think they've both had ninety seven two out homers. Like

1025
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 5: that's wonderful. I'll tell you the ones that I've been

1026
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: been obsessing about recently are Tony Gwinsta because I have

1027
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 5: a friend who's a sicko Padres fan, and Tony Gwynn

1028
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: is the author of some of the most incredible stats

1029
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 5: in baseball history. The one that I said on the

1030
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 5: LeBatard Show recently a couple of weeks ago, is his

1031
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 5: career average was three thirty eight and his career average

1032
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 5: facing Cy Young Award winners was three thirty nine.

1033
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: That's that's wonderful.

1034
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 5: That's that's poetry right there, to be just I mean,

1035
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: if it were the if it's better than if it

1036
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: were exactly the same to me, like the fact that

1037
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: it's one point higher over over how many at bats

1038
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 5: is so wonderful. But I'll tell you. I'll tell you

1039
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: the stat that I think is the craziest stat in

1040
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: the modern game. It's a weird one. Terrence Gore of

1041
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: the New York Mets a fifth outfielder, pinch runner guy.

1042
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 5: He played for four teams. I think in his career,

1043
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 5: which was like eight years long, he had about I

1044
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: want to say he had seventy at bats, maybe eighty five,

1045
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 5: ninety played chearances. Here are his stats in his four

1046
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 5: teams eight years. Seventy total at bats, zero home runs,

1047
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 5: one triple, two doubles, three World Series rings. He won

1048
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 5: three rings in seventy at bats. He was on the

1049
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen Royals. He was on the Dodgers team in

1050
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: the COVID year as a pinch rudder, and he was

1051
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 5: on the Braves team the following year. So Terrence Gore,

1052
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: who had seventy at bats for four teams and eight years,

1053
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 5: has as many rings, has three times as many rings

1054
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 5: as Clayton Kershaw.

1055
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: He gets the wild three.

1056
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: More rings than Mike trout Right, three extra base.

1057
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: Hits, and three rings.

1058
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's right, that's that is the beauty

1059
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 3: of baseball that that can happen. And these things happen

1060
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: all the time. Terrence Score who could just fly.

1061
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: War number zero, ran all over the field.

1062
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: But he was a he was almost like Herb Washington

1063
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 3: who played in the seventies. He was a sprinter that

1064
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: they made a pinch runner for the Oakland A's. Those

1065
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: are the stats, Mike. And as for Tony Gwinn, by

1066
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: the way, two hundred and ninety seven three hit games,

1067
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: one three.

1068
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: Strikeout strikeout game.

1069
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he told me, he told me in that

1070
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: three strikeout game, he really struck out a fourth time,

1071
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: but the umpire missed the call, otherwise he would have

1072
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: had a four strikeout game. And of course Tony Winn

1073
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: never struck out more than forty times in any season,

1074
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 3: which is just unfathomable today.

1075
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 2: And this is my favorite one. For a five year period, he.

1076
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: Batted three thirty five when he had two strikes on

1077
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 3: him and the only hitter in that five year period

1078
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 3: to have a higher average using all of his strikes

1079
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: was Mike Piazza. That's how great a two strike hitter

1080
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Tony gwinn was, I have to say that.

1081
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: I'll do you one better.

1082
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 5: Wait his his The major league batting average I think

1083
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 5: since nineteen eighty eight with two strikes is something like

1084
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 5: one eighty five or it's below two hundred. And his

1085
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 5: career average with two strikes was three zero two. It

1086
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 5: was like one hundred and twenty five points higher than

1087
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: the rest of the league.

1088
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: Right, And I've told I think I told you this

1089
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 3: Mike nineteen ninety four of the year he was gonna

1090
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: hit four hundred before the strike came. He told me

1091
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: he used one bat the entire season. Now, he did

1092
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: hold it out against tough left handers like Jeff Fieserro

1093
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: who might get in on him and break his bat.

1094
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: He used one bat the entire year. He called it

1095
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 2: seven grains of pain.

1096
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: And he you know, Pete Gavillia broke one hundred and

1097
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: forty four bats in one season. He just overpowered his

1098
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: bats and the baseball. But Tony Gwynn told me he

1099
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: broke that bat the next spring training in ninety five,

1100
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: in spring training, hit on a backfield against Rob Peachelo,

1101
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: one of the coaches, and Tony said, when I broke

1102
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: that bat, he said, I.

1103
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: Almost started to cry, and Rob Peacheloh, the pitcher, said

1104
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: so did I.

1105
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 3: That's how great Tony Gwinn was. There are a million

1106
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: Tony Gwinn stats.

1107
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm watching a ping pong match here,

1108
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: and it's all out of love. There's no competition on

1109
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: one one upping each other. But it's oh, speaking of that, Mike, oh, Tim,

1110
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you that I was thinking.

1111
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: And let's get back to Pedro for a second.

1112
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: Mike, Okay, we know ninety nine two thousand. His era

1113
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 3: in those two seasons combined was one ninety. The league

1114
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 3: era for those two years combined was four ninety exactly.

1115
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, three runs lower.

1116
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: You watched those two years, You've no one has ever

1117
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: seen two years back to back better than Pedro ninety

1118
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: nine two thousand.

1119
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong?

1120
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 4: No, You're one hundred percent right. And it was the most.

1121
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: Difficult to understand thing of my baseball watching experience because

1122
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 5: he was short and goofy, and he always was always

1123
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 5: like kind of goofing around, and he would go out

1124
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 5: to the mound and he would absolutely obliterate lineups. He

1125
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 5: sliced through those lineups. I remember checking a box score

1126
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 5: in a game he had pitched in ninety nine. Because

1127
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 5: I hadn't been able to watch the game. I was

1128
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 5: living in New York, and I looked at the box

1129
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: score and it was nine innings, two hits, no runs,

1130
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 5: fifteen strikeouts, no walks, and I had no reaction to it.

1131
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: I was like, Yeah, that's right, that's what he does.

1132
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 5: I was one of my greatest maybe my greatest live

1133
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: viewing in history is I was at the game at

1134
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 5: Yankee Stadium when he struck out seventeen Yankees.

1135
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 4: I was there.

1136
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 5: I sat in the left field bleachers with my friend Eben,

1137
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 5: and we were so it was you know, the Yankees

1138
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 5: had demoralized us for generations and we were there expecting nothing.

1139
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 5: But it was like Paedro's pitching, let's go watch. And

1140
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 5: we were the most Red Sox fans at that moment.

1141
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 5: Were the most superstitious bunch of people in the world.

1142
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: You wouldn't you anything you could do. You stand and

1143
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: stand in your kitchen the whole game. If they get

1144
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 5: a hit, you stand in your kitchen the whole game.

1145
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 5: You don't move because they got a hit. We were

1146
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 5: we were psycho and we were in the in the

1147
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 5: fourth inning of that game. He'd given up his solo

1148
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: homer to Chili Davis in the second inning, which was

1149
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: the only hit he allowed, and then he started mowing

1150
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,479
Speaker 5: people down. And at the end of the fourth inning,

1151
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: my friend Eben turned to me and said, we're winning

1152
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 5: this game.

1153
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: And I said, what is wrong with you? You don't

1154
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: say that out loud?

1155
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: Are you?

1156
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 4: Are you mad? Like you're gonna jinx it?

1157
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 5: And he was like, no, I'm not, because that guy

1158
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 5: is pitching and they're not. They can't not touch him.

1159
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 5: And he after he said that, did not allow a

1160
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 5: ball hit into fair territory. The last five innings of

1161
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 5: that game, every out was a strikeout or a foul out.

1162
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 5: No one hit the ball into fair territory. It's the

1163
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 5: best pitching performance I've ever seen and ever will see.

1164
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: And I agree because I was at the game.

1165
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: It's the first, No, Mike, It's not only was I

1166
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: at the game, it's the first time I was ever

1167
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: a color common on a radio game.

1168
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: So I'm scared to death.

1169
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: I've never done this before. I'm with Charlie Steiner, I'm

1170
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: sitting next to him. I'm the analyst, and I'm the

1171
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: only guy in the booth and I get that game,

1172
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 3: and that game went over three hundred strikeouts for the season.

1173
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 3: It was the easiest game to call I've ever seen,

1174
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: because it was still the greatest pitch game I have

1175
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: ever seen. I remember talking to Tino Martinez years later

1176
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: and he went, oh, that was otherworldly. We've never ever

1177
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 3: seen stuff like that in our lives. That was Pedro.

1178
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: And the same Pedro Mike who once told me when

1179
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: he was in rookie ball he weighed one hundred and

1180
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 3: thirty eight pounds. Even I weigh more than that, one

1181
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight pounds, and he threw ninety three

1182
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: miles an hour at one hundred and thirty eight.

1183
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: I said, Pedro, how can you explain that?

1184
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: He goes, Wow, God gave me that, And that's precisely

1185
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: what happened.

1186
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: I feel like it's watching him pitch.

1187
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 5: Then, when you read there's certain players in the history

1188
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 5: of the game that obviously there's no video of. You

1189
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: can't see tape of them. We'll never see Satchel Paige

1190
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: pitch in his prime. We can only triangulate how good

1191
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 5: they were from the comments made about them, or the

1192
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 5: stories or the legends. And I feel like Pedro was

1193
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 5: that he was that guy. There's a guy like that

1194
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 5: every twenty years where people, the best players in the

1195
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 5: world just shake their heads in disbelief at what they're watching.

1196
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 5: It's like the quote about Nolan Ryan, you can't hit

1197
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 5: what you can't see, or the you know, the the

1198
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 5: way that who was it said Walter Johnson could throw

1199
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 5: a pee through a battleship. It's like you you start

1200
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: to learn how good they were simply by the way

1201
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 5: the other players described them. And with Pedro, we got

1202
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 5: to see it with our own eyes in full color

1203
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: and high definition, and it it was a site to behold.

1204
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: Right ninety nine All Star Game famously strikes out, you know,

1205
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: the five out of six guys. After he pitches, he

1206
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 3: goes into the Red Sox clubhouse.

1207
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Ted Williams is in there. Ted Williams, I mean, people

1208
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: can't even speak to him. The reverence is so high.

1209
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: And Ted looks at Paidrow and says, that is some

1210
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: of the greatest stuff I have ever seen in my life.

1211
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: And paid Row still calls that moment the highlight of

1212
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: his career because the greatest hitter most of us have.

1213
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: Ever seen gave him that compliment. That's what baseball is

1214
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: all about.

1215
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 5: You know, this story of the bat in Cooperstown, the

1216
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 5: Ted Williams and Satchel Paige bat, This is one of

1217
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 5: my favorites.

1218
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: Yes, tell it.

1219
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 5: So there's a bat in the collection in Cooperstown that's

1220
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 5: it's signed by Satchel Paige and it has an enormous

1221
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 5: gouge taken out of it. And the story is that

1222
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 5: Ted Williams, who was a historian of the game and

1223
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 5: also had great reverence for the Negro Leagues and used

1224
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 5: his Hall of Fame speech to advocate for Negro League's

1225
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 5: players being inducted into Cooperstown, he got to hit off

1226
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 5: Satchel Page in a game. It was obviously at the

1227
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 5: very end of pages career and Williams as I think

1228
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: it was sometime in the mid late fifties. So he's

1229
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 5: so excited because he's going to get to hit off

1230
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 5: Satchel Page and he goes up there and Page's.

1231
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: Arm was shot.

1232
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 5: He was probably what fifty five years old at the

1233
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 5: time or something. Yeah, yeah, he probably said he was

1234
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 5: fifty five but was really sixty five. So he's mostly

1235
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 5: throwing off speed, so he throws a couple off speed

1236
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 5: pitches and Williams fouls him off, and then he decides

1237
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 5: to throw him a fastball and he probably threw it

1238
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 5: eighty nine, but Ted thought he was going to throw

1239
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 5: another change up and he swung right through it. And

1240
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 5: Ted was so angry at himself he went back and

1241
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 5: smashed the bat against the railing of the club of

1242
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: the dugout, and then after the game took the bat

1243
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: into the opposing clubhouse and said, would you please sign

1244
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 5: my bat for me? And that bat with Satchel's signature

1245
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: on it is in the Hall of Fame. And my

1246
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: favorite part of the story is that apparently when Ted

1247
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 5: walked back to the dugout and smashed his bat, there

1248
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 5: are a couple eyewitness accounts who say that Page was

1249
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 5: standing on the mound laughing at him, which is so

1250
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: so wonderful that just I got you. I threw an

1251
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 5: eighty nine mile an hour fastball right past Ted Williams

1252
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 5: right well.

1253
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 3: Ted, of course, is the greatest hitting coach of all time.

1254
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: Manage the Senators in nineteen sixty nine, Mike, when I'm

1255
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: twelve years old and Ted Williams is our manager, and

1256
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: suddenly they win. They can finish over five hundred, and

1257
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: Eddie Brinkman raises his batting average by seventy points. It's unbelievable.

1258
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: But if I may, Ted hated every part of managing.

1259
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 2: He just loved the hitting part.

1260
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: So in spring training one year, the coaches are doing

1261
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: a rundown play in spring training and they can't figure

1262
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: out do you run him to the bag here?

1263
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: Do you run him back? How many throws? It's a

1264
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: big debate between the coaches. So they go to.

1265
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: Ted and say, Ted, could you please come out here

1266
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: and break the tie and tell us who's right on

1267
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: this play. He watches them argue about the rundown play.

1268
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 3: He's so disgusted, Sorry, Jeff, he just says, oh good,

1269
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: let's hit off the rundown play and starts batting practice.

1270
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,479
Speaker 3: That to Ted Williams was as a baseball guy.

1271
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: Well, Mike, if you weren't so successful in what you've

1272
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: done in your career in the last twenty five plus

1273
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: years as a writer, I would say you missed your

1274
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: calling because your love for baseball rivals that of my dad.

1275
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: And that's high praise being a Hall of Famer in

1276
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: your own right as a baseball writer. There's one story

1277
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: that I want to tell about my dad's dad, my

1278
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: grandfather that I think will we'll make you smile. As

1279
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: a Boston Red Sox fan but also a fan of

1280
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: the game. My grandfather was born in Watertown, Massachusetts, in

1281
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: the year nineteen nineteen. He passed away in two thousand

1282
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: and three. No, he never saw as a lifelong Boston

1283
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: Red Sox fan. He never saw the Red Sox win

1284
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: a World Series. And you know, selfishly, he passed away

1285
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: when I was ten years old and growing up with

1286
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: my dad, I didn't grow up with a team, so

1287
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: to speak. I grew up just loving the game. That

1288
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: was what I was told, because Dad wasn't throwing an

1289
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: Orioles jacket around me and saying, son, we live and

1290
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: die by the O's Cowrapken Junior is you know, is

1291
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: your godfather or something. But in following that team that

1292
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: next year, I always thought, as a kid, oh my gosh,

1293
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: that's my grandfather up there helping this team come back

1294
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: from down three games to nothing in the ALCS against

1295
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: the Yankees. That is what baseball is and that's what

1296
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: it does for us.

1297
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 3: Mike twenty four, twenty, two thousand and four, when they

1298
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 3: finally won Where were you and how did you react

1299
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: to that?

1300
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: So I was at Saturday Night Live through June of

1301
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 5: two thousand and four, and then I moved to Los

1302
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 5: Angeles to take a job on the Office. And I'm

1303
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: convinced to this day again going back to the superstition

1304
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 5: that the only reason they won is because I left

1305
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 5: the Northeast.

1306
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: I think I had to leave. I think I was

1307
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 4: the problem.

1308
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 5: So I was out in Los Angeles and living and

1309
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 5: dying with the team as all ways they got. So

1310
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 5: we were shooting the first season of the Office. It

1311
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: was October, late October when the ALCS happened, and I watched.

1312
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 5: The producer of the Office, a guy named Ken Zabornak,

1313
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 5: knew that I was a big fan and wheeled a

1314
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 5: TV into the offices where we're behind backstage where we

1315
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 5: were shooting. So it was like, you can keep the

1316
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 5: watch that's on mute. So I watched Game one of

1317
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: the ALCS and Shilling. Shilling's ankle was bothering him and

1318
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 5: they got He got lit up and the Yankees romped.

1319
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 5: Then we watched Game two that way Yankees win again,

1320
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 5: and I said, I don't want this anymore.

1321
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: Get out of here. I can't. I can't do it.

1322
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 5: So I have a bunch of friends saying, hey, we're

1323
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 5: gonna go to game three, can you make it? And

1324
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 5: I was like, I can I'm out in la whatever.

1325
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 5: They go to game three the Red Sox was nineteen

1326
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: to eight and just get just get absolutely swamped and

1327
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 5: they're down oh three. So all my friends are like,

1328
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 5: we got to keep watching, and I'm like, I'm not

1329
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 5: watching this anymore.

1330
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: I can't take this. Why would I do this? Why

1331
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 4: would I subject myself to this?

1332
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 5: So there is a Red Sox message board in the

1333
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 5: primitive days of the Internet called the Sons of Sam Horn,

1334
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 5: And on Sons of Sam Horn, very very primitive message

1335
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 5: board early days, there's a thing called the game thread

1336
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 5: where people just watch the game in real time and

1337
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 5: just post instantaneous reactions. So I decide that the way

1338
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to, in quotes, watch the game is by

1339
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 5: just refreshing my computer on the Sons of Sam Horn game.

1340
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 4: Thread over and over again.

1341
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 5: That game you might remember, went to extra innings was

1342
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 5: about five hours long. And that's the Dave Roberts game

1343
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 5: of him stealing second and then Bill Miller singling him

1344
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 5: in and then they go to extra innings, and then

1345
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 5: Ortiz won it with the home run in the twelfth.

1346
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: I watched again in quotes, that game for whatever it was,

1347
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 5: four hours and fifty eight minutes by hitting refresh on

1348
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 5: my computer because I could not bear to look at it.

1349
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 4: Then here's the problem. They won.

1350
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 5: Got to do it again the next day. So I

1351
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 5: watch all of game five the same way. That game

1352
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: also goes intotings and is also five hours long, and

1353
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 5: I'm staring at my computer, hitting refreshed and trying to

1354
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 5: intuit what has happened by these people just posting like

1355
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 5: Ortiz with eight exclamation points, you know. So then they

1356
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 5: go back to New York, and I'm like, I can't

1357
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: do this to myself again. I have to just watch

1358
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 5: this game, and I'm terrified. So I watched the game

1359
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 5: at home with my wife in the first house we

1360
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 5: rented in LA and that game featured the a rod

1361
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 5: slap out of Bronson Royo's arm and also the Mark

1362
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 5: Bellhorn home run originally called a double, which was a

1363
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 5: home run a hit the Yankee fan in the chest

1364
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: in left field, and this is pre replay, and both

1365
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: times in those two cases, the umps got together and

1366
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 5: got the call right. And I remember thinking to myself,

1367
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 5: this has never happened before. Something is different. This scenario

1368
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 5: has led to the Red Sox losing, being on the

1369
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 5: short end of the stick every single time it's been

1370
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 5: possible for the last eighty six years. I think something

1371
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: is fundamentally changed here. They win that game. Keith Folk

1372
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 5: gets them out of a huge gam in the ninth inning.

1373
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 5: Every one on every pitcher on that team, Alan Embury

1374
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 5: and Mike Timlin and Derek Low all those guys had

1375
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 5: thrown like seven hundred innings in the span of six days.

1376
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 5: And they get out of that game. And then it

1377
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 5: gets the game seven. And I said to my wife,

1378
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 5: I'm going to watch this game again, but I'm sorry

1379
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 5: to tell you this. You were sitting on the couch

1380
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: to my immediate left for game six. You have to

1381
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 5: sit to my immediate left on the couch for game seven.

1382
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 5: And she said, you're a lunatic, okay, And she did,

1383
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 5: And so we watched that game.

1384
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: That game was great. That game was you know the romp.

1385
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: JOHNH.

1386
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 5: Gamon hits two homers in a Grand Slam. Although I'll

1387
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 5: tell you here's the depth of my illness. So they're winning.

1388
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: They're they're winning that game ten to three. Right, the

1389
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 5: Yankees scratch out a couple of runs against Pedro in

1390
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: the in the seventh, they're winning that game ten to three.

1391
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: They go to the.

1392
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 5: Ninth inning, and in the ninth inning, I started to think, Uh,

1393
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 5: this is point. This is going to really hurt when

1394
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 5: the when the Yankees come back and win this, this

1395
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 5: is gonna be really bad.

1396
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 4: When they score eight runs. And then I start playing

1397
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: it out of my head.

1398
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, God, like this this will be this

1399
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 5: will be the end of my fan Like I won't

1400
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 5: I won't watch baseball anymore. When and it wasn't like

1401
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 5: if this happens in my brain, it was when this happens.

1402
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,479
Speaker 5: When it's like and I could picture Jeter rounding second

1403
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 5: and heading for third, and Pasada hitting a homer, and

1404
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 5: then Tony Clark or someone hitting a lucky flare double.

1405
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 4: I saw the whole thing.

1406
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 5: And then by the time I was done with that horrifying,

1407
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 5: miserable fantasy, the game was over and they had won.

1408
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: And then and sorry to ramble about this, but oh,

1409
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 5: to be fair, you asked, so ah, So they go

1410
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 5: to the World Series and and they and my wife

1411
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 5: sits to my immediate left. For all every one of

1412
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 5: those four games of that World Series. They they they

1413
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 5: never trailed for a single inning in that World Series.

1414
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 5: They led in every single inning. They're up three to zero.

1415
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 5: We go to Game four, they jump out to a lead.

1416
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 5: I think they're winning three to nothing in the ninth

1417
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 5: inning and Edgar Renteria leads off that inning. I believe

1418
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 5: no way did he lead up someone let off that inning?

1419
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 5: Maybe Pooholes with a single. And here's here's what happened

1420
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 5: in my brain. In my brain, I thought, oh my god,

1421
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 5: this is how, this is how they're gonna kill me.

1422
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 5: They were the first team in history to come back

1423
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 5: down three and win.

1424
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 4: A seven game series.

1425
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 5: Now they're up three to oh in the World Series,

1426
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 5: and now they're gonna give up, and they're up three

1427
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 5: to nothing in the ninth inning. They're gonna give up

1428
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 5: this lead, and then they're gonna lose the next three games,

1429
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 5: and the story will be they found the only more

1430
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 5: miserable way to collapse than they have ever found before.

1431
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 5: And I and again I saw the whole thing. I

1432
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 5: was like, this, this is what's gonna happen. They're gonna

1433
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 5: lose this game, and they're gonna blow this lead, and

1434
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 5: then people are gonna go it doesn't matter. They're up

1435
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 5: three one, and they're gonna lose again because they're still

1436
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 5: in sent in Saint Louis. But then the pressure will

1437
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 5: be on in the Boston media will be all over them,

1438
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 5: and they'll go back and they lose Game six, and

1439
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 5: I was playing the whole thing out of my mind,

1440
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 5: and then I looked up and Keith Fog was underhanding

1441
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 5: the ball to dougman Kovich and this World Series was over.

1442
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: And we had won.

1443
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: Wow.

1444
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 5: But it was it was a in my head, a

1445
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 5: mathematical certainty that even though they had never led for

1446
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 5: a single never never been behind for a single inning

1447
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 5: in that World Series, that in the ninth inning they

1448
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 5: were going to blow the lead, blow Game five, blow

1449
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: Game six, blow Game seven, and be the only be

1450
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 5: the second team after to ever blow a three games

1451
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 5: to none lead in a seven game series.

1452
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: I was sure of it, you know.

1453
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: I think of the ninth inning in a different way. Remember,

1454
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 3: Gabe Kapler finished that game in the outfield, and he

1455
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: and Johnny Damon were standing next to each other in

1456
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,959
Speaker 3: between the innings in the outfield capler war number nineteen,

1457
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: Johnny Gamon War number eighteen, and I'm watching the game.

1458
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm at the game, and there they are with nineteen

1459
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 3: eighteen lined up.

1460
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: It was the most beautiful thing. That's what I knew.

1461
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: My father was in charge of all this, because he

1462
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: was pulling some strings up in heaven. And if I

1463
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: made Mike sam hol Horn was a gigantic man, hit

1464
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 3: tremendous home runs.

1465
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: Struck out every other time that he didn't hit a

1466
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: home run.

1467
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 3: And I was at the game when sam Horn went

1468
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 3: zero for six with six strikeouts that night in Kansas City.

1469
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: So I go to Mike Flanna again, funniest picture, funniest

1470
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 3: guy ever, and I say, all right, Flanny, three strikeouts

1471
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 3: is a hat trick.

1472
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: Four is a sombrero. Five is a golden sombrero. What

1473
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: is six? I've never seen a six?

1474
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: And he goes, from now on, six will always be

1475
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 3: known as a horn. So if I ever see anybody

1476
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: strikeout six times in a game, they say what.

1477
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: Is that, I'm gonna say that is a horn.

1478
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 5: Sam Horn played for the New Britain Red Sox, which

1479
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 5: was the minor league team near me, and I went

1480
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 5: and saw a game when he was down there and

1481
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 5: he hit what I believe is the furthest home run

1482
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 5: I have ever seen hit at any level. He hit

1483
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 5: a ball the dead center field in the New Britain

1484
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 5: Stadium that cleared the fence. It was one of those

1485
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 5: home runs where the outfielders don't even move, they just

1486
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 5: kind of straighten up. They're in a crouch and then

1487
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 5: they just kind of straighten up, and I it was.

1488
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 5: It was one of the most I was sitting right

1489
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 5: you know, there were a thousand fans of those games.

1490
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 5: I was sitting right behind home plate and it flew

1491
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 5: directly away from me, and I feel like it never

1492
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 5: came down. It was one of the most impressed, and

1493
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 5: I was like, this guy's a Hall of Famer. This

1494
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 5: is there's no way, there's no way a guy who

1495
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 5: get hit a ball that far won't be a huge success.

1496
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 5: Then he went to the Red Sox and hit like

1497
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 5: fourteen homers in his in his rookie year in like

1498
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 5: forty games, and it was like, this is it. We

1499
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: found our guy, and then not so much it didn't work.

1500
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,480
Speaker 2: K of Mike before, we want to keep you forever.

1501
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: Well before you, before you say, I think we need

1502
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: to have Mike again this season on it's just a

1503
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: great game because we could go four hours of this.

1504
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: So I need him to tell one more story place.

1505
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: He's such a great storyteller, Mike, I know because we

1506
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: kind of talked about this the White Bronco in the

1507
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 3: mid nineties.

1508
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: You have to tell us the story involved. I don't

1509
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 2: want to anything, Just tell us the story. Please.

1510
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 5: This is This is a story I have read in

1511
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,839
Speaker 5: a couple places. I wish I could credit the reporter

1512
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 5: who first wrote it that I read it, but I

1513
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 5: don't remember where I read it. I don't know if

1514
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 5: this is true, but oh boy, do I want it

1515
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 5: to be true. So the story it's a Manny Ramirez story.

1516
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 5: And Manny Ramirez is the author of like twelve of

1517
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 5: the greatest stories of all time. There's the one of

1518
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 5: him going to the Harley Davidson dealership in Milwaukee and

1519
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 5: him saying, you know, I love these motorcycles. He was

1520
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 5: with his translator and his translator said, well, you know,

1521
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 5: you could you could buy one if you wanted one,

1522
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 5: and he said I could and guy said, yeah, you

1523
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 5: make plenty of money, you could absolutely buy one. And

1524
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 5: he was like, great, I'll take this one. It was

1525
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 5: like a ninety five thousand dollars motorcycle. And the guy

1526
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 5: goes great, and he's filling out the forms and he's like, okay,

1527
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 5: we just we just need a form of payment. And

1528
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 5: Manny turns to his translator and says, I left my

1529
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 5: wallet at the hotel. Can you give me ninety five

1530
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 5: thousand dollars and I'll pay you back. But that's not

1531
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 5: even the best one. The other one, by the way,

1532
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 5: the other one I love is that he asked the

1533
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 5: clubhouse attendant to wash his car and the guy said, sure,

1534
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 5: just leave me some money, and he said, okay, I'll

1535
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 5: put it in the glove compartment. And the guy went

1536
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 5: to wash his car, and in this glove compartment there

1537
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 5: was like a stack of like ten thousand dollars still

1538
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 5: in the band from the well.

1539
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: Then there's that, not to interrupt, there's the Manny story

1540
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: of him talking to Alex Rodriguez right after he got

1541
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees, saying, man hey, ron, I was

1542
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: really excited about playing on the team with you, when

1543
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: it would have been Manny who would have been traded.

1544
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 2: Was going detections, right, Yankees oh so bad.

1545
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 4: Wonderful million, so keep going.

1546
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 5: So the one that I read about and loved so

1547
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 5: much is, uh, it is the it is. I think

1548
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 5: it's Manny's rookie year. It's the year that OJ Simpson

1549
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 5: goes on the run. Manny was on the Cleveland Indians

1550
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 5: at the time, and one of the players on the

1551
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 5: team was Chad Oj the pitcher O G.

1552
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: E A.

1553
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 4: So he's watching that.

1554
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 5: He turns on the news and he hears that the

1555
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 5: police are after OJ, that the police are chasing O. J.

1556
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 4: Simpson. But he all hears is OJ.

1557
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: And he calls Chad OJ and says, hey, I don't

1558
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 5: know what you did, but I looking for you.

1559
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 4: You got you? Are you okay? Do you need help?

1560
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: And Chad Oj was like, I think it's a different OJ.

1561
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 5: Man.

1562
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1563
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: That might be apocrypal, but I don't care because that's

1564
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 3: one of the greatest.

1565
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: And Mike dropped that one on me. I'd never heard it,

1566
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: and it was so great. Whenever I could do someone

1567
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 2: could tell me a story I've never heard before, especially

1568
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: about baseball. I can't believe how happy it makes me.

1569
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: Mike, we have taken up way too much of your time.

1570
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: I were already gonna be booking Mike for another week

1571
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: of is this a great game? Or what? Maybe halfway

1572
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: through the season, maybe once during the playoffs two.

1573
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: Because this has been a joy.

1574
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: It exceeded expectation and we have been so excited to

1575
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: have you on. So thank you, thank you, thank you

1576
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: for taking all this time with us.

1577
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: It is my absolute pleasure and I will come on

1578
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 5: anytime you want me to.

1579
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Mike.

1580
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, Thank you so much,

1581
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,440
Speaker 1: Mike Shore for joining us. We really appreciate a seamhead

1582
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: in himself. And you know what My favorite seam head

1583
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: shirt you own is the your double play shirt, right,

1584
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: which seems to baffle mine.

1585
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna look like this was stage, but I promise

1586
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: you it wasn't.

1587
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: No, you have it under your Walter Johnson's six plus

1588
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: four plus three equals two six four.

1589
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: To three over two.

1590
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: So edwardad hold on, we need to get you a

1591
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 1: new one of those because that one you you've worn

1592
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: that one out. Yeah, so that was from from Baseballism, right,

1593
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: did you see what I'm wearing a Baseballism shirt?

1594
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 2: Really love that story.

1595
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, been there a million times, so great Eduardo per

1596
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 3: as Gate, my dear friend gave me this or told

1597
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: me to get so, yeah, this was you didn't know,

1598
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: and I didn't no idea. I just threw it on

1599
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 3: underneath my sweatshirt. So Eduardo wore this to MI T

1600
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: one day when we were doing a Red Sox game.

1601
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 3: Of course, your grandfather Pop went to MI T, your

1602
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 3: uncle Andy went to MI T. So EDWARDO wears this

1603
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: shirt to Mi T, and a lot of the students

1604
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 3: there just kind of looked at the shirt like, what

1605
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: what does that mean? Six four to three equals equals too.

1606
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: So he said, no one at MI T had any

1607
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 3: idea what this meant. And then when Eduardo explained the

1608
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 3: whole double play thing, he said they still didn't had.

1609
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: No idea what it meant. So yes, I did.

1610
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: I just wore this out of the blue today and

1611
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 3: it came in handy on seam head Day.

1612
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for is this

1613
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 1: a great game or what? We've got a special Mother's

1614
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: Day edition come up next week, so make sure to

1615
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: join us, and as always, thank you for being part

1616
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: of our family.