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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Browns Fans, and welcome in to Cleveland brown

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Speaker 2: in Ohio. We're gonna kick off the week of July fourth,

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Speaker 2: like we always do, a series of best of shows,

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Speaker 2: taking a look at the best content we have brought

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Speaker 2: you this offseason as we get ready for the Browns

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Speaker 2: return for training camp in late July, when the team

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Speaker 2: will head to West Virginia once again to the Greenbrier

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Speaker 2: to start the twenty twenty four season. Now, last year,

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Speaker 2: the Browns a lot of success, obviously, though they wanted

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Speaker 2: to make some changes, some turnover on the coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: most notably on the offensive side of the staff. On offense,

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Speaker 2: you obviously return your head coach Kevin Stefanski. You return

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Speaker 2: your wide receiver coach Chad O'Shea. But that's it. The

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Speaker 2: Browns moved to Duce Staley now as the running back coach.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from him in this program at the

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Speaker 3: So that's Duce Staley. So we know that was a change.

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Speaker 2: The Browns made a change at the tight end coach

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Speaker 2: So the Browns brought in Andy Dickerson. And that's a

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Speaker 2: He had been with the Rams, he had been with

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey. And Dorsey had been in Carolina. Dorsey had

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Speaker 2: So here's the lineup for you today. And then we've

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Speaker 2: He had a great connection with our former defensive line

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Speaker 2: And you know, I've talked with some of our offensive linemen,

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Speaker 2: So big, big shoes to Phil Forrandy Dickerson. But so

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Speaker 2: Bubba Van Tron wrapping up the offseason, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: the new kickoff rule. This is from May the thirtieth.

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Speaker 2: This new kickoff, folks, it is going to be exciting.

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Speaker 2: It is a team that will have a significant week

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Speaker 2: at two forty, Brown's head coach Kevin Stefanski came into

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Speaker 2: of course, but Coach TOFANSI we talked about his Keepers

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Speaker 3: So that's what today is.

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Speaker 2: Day one of our best of CBD, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Bally Bett, is going to be all about the coaches,

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're gonna hear from Ken Dorsey, the

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Speaker 2: Then we're gonna get offensive line coach Andy Dickerson's Cleveland

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Speaker 5: is Z one on one with new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey.

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Speaker 2: Very happy now for the first time on the program

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Speaker 2: to welcome the new offensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey, Welcome back. I think we have to start there,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. How's it the when you kind of went

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Speaker 2: through this like Cleveland? No, obviously you know it well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I obviously know the city. Well, it's changed

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this wasn't here, Yeah, certainly, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: No doubt.

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Speaker 7: It's exciting. It's very exciting. You feel you really feel

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Speaker 7: It's just it's a whole different vibe, a whole different energy,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of that's just you know, that's from

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Speaker 7: It's a true testament to them. Just the culture that

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Speaker 3: And it's a city and you know, this wealth, it

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Speaker 2: Know, Buffalo, they are very passionate Buffalo. Yeah, they are

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Speaker 7: There's no doubt. I mean that was the most fun

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Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to see Thursday night Browns

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Speaker 7: I mean, the stadium is great. We got a great stadium,

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Speaker 7: You felt the electricity of you know, our fans and

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk a little offensive football. So when

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Speaker 3: Well, guess what we've got that guy.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's good, and that's very different than than

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think there's there's obviously things that that

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Speaker 2: It almost feels like a unique It has the potential

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Speaker 3: And we've varied our run game, but yeah, using those hard.

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Speaker 7: And I think you know those in my past, you

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Speaker 7: So like some of the things we'll talk about is

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we've been kind of just saying,

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Speaker 2: Every blade of grass without having the necessity of it

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Speaker 7: Well, I think the number one thing that you look

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Speaker 7: it's pressure packages, personnel matchups, whatever that might be. It

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: And a good blocking tight end too, yeah.

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Speaker 7: So, I mean the starting points there and then you know,

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Speaker 7: making sure that to your point, I think is a

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Speaker 7: you know ninety percent of the time they're throwing this.

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Speaker 2: When you think about a guy like Dashawn, who when

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 4: What can we get you comfortable with? You know?

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Speaker 7: And and I think those things are are big, you know,

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Speaker 7: it is, you know. But to your point, I think,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's being able to expand and do some

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Speaker 7: the exciting part about it, is not only just one

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Speaker 2: When you think of being able to coordinate an offense

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Speaker 2: Yes, When do you think about kind of that and

437
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Speaker 2: the advantage that gives you because now you have home

438
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Speaker 2: run capability even on a simple handoff, right, and how

439
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Speaker 2: that stresses the defense. Is that kind of an exciting

440
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Speaker 2: thing for you to kind of think about.

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Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt because at the end of the day, defenses, right,

442
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Speaker 7: they're going to try to load the box and and

443
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Speaker 7: you know whether or not your force block and safeties

444
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Speaker 7: and doing those different things. Then corners are cracker place

445
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Speaker 7: and all that stuff, right, all those scheme stuff. But

446
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Speaker 7: when you got a guy like Nick who can, hey

447
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Speaker 7: make somebody miss, you know, and do those sides and run,

448
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Speaker 7: you know, I mean, that's that's when all of a sudden, Hey,

449
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Speaker 7: those you know, six seven eight yard runs go to

450
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Speaker 7: you know, explosive runs, you know, or you know, two

451
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Speaker 7: or three yard run goes to a six or seven

452
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Speaker 7: yard run, you know, I mean, and those types of things.

453
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Speaker 7: So obviously a guy like him is invaluable and what

454
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Speaker 7: he brings to the table and what he has brought

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Speaker 7: to the table, and well we won't lose sight of that,

456
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Speaker 7: and we'll make sure that obviously, you know, he's going

457
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Speaker 7: to be an integral part of what we do.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun. Welcome back, great

459
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Speaker 2: talk with you, we'll get to do it again soon.

460
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Speaker 2: I know you're very busy, so appreciate the time and again,

461
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Speaker 2: congrats and welcome back to Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: line coach Andy Dickerson, who gives us his philosophy when

481
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Speaker 9: it comes to coaching this Brown's offensive line.

482
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Speaker 2: What an absolute treat to have Brown's offensive line coach

483
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Speaker 2: Andy Dickerson in studio with us. And I have to

484
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Speaker 2: tell you, Kevin Stancel, You're the most interesting man in

485
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Speaker 2: the world. So I'm expecting one heck of an interview

486
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Speaker 2: here today. No pressure, no pressure, what's whatever? So you

487
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Speaker 2: and I have Obviously he's your friend, but he became

488
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Speaker 2: my friend while he was here, a mutual friend. Ben Bloom,

489
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Speaker 2: the former defensive line coach the Browns, is now with

490
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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, and I remember I went and interviewed

491
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Speaker 2: him prior to the Seattle game last year and he

492
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Speaker 2: kind of talked about the Toughs trio, yourself, Shane Walderm

493
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Speaker 2: and obviously Ben, and then how excited he was for

494
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Speaker 2: that game. And it actually ended up being an interview

495
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Speaker 2: that turned into him being a lot about you and

496
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Speaker 2: now here you are as the offensive line coach. But

497
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Speaker 2: how kind of cool is that story of the three

498
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Speaker 2: of you guys from a team in Toughs who have

499
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Speaker 2: now come in to play major roles in the National

500
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Speaker 2: Football League and at various points help pull each other

501
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Speaker 2: in and around the league.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's uh, it's actually incredible. So

503
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Speaker 10: just you know, shows that why representation matters. And you

504
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 10: know when I was, you know, Shane had gotten the

505
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Speaker 10: internship with the Patriots and then I was ging at

506
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Speaker 10: Toughs for the you know, that year, and then he

507
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Speaker 10: calls after they win the second Super Bowls like, hey,

508
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Speaker 10: you're still interested in getting to the NFL, and it's

509
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Speaker 10: like absolutely, So ended up interning with them, uh for

510
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Speaker 10: the first year. Then you know, connected stayed for the

511
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Speaker 10: next year, end up going to the Jets with the Mangenie,

512
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Speaker 10: and then we come up with mang Genie out here,

513
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Speaker 10: and then then Bloom comes in interviews, drives all the

514
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Speaker 10: way out from Harvard for like a two week interview process,

515
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Speaker 10: and then gets the job. And you know, it's kind

516
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Speaker 10: of paying it forward at that point. Same thing our coach,

517
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Speaker 10: you know, coach Bill samco our head coach at Toughs.

518
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Speaker 10: You know, he's like, hey, I got I got the

519
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Speaker 10: next one. I got the next year. And you know,

520
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 10: Ben's way smarter than men, better than me. So it

521
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Speaker 10: was definitely a get but Shane starting that and then

522
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Speaker 10: just continue to go and just help especially Division three

523
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Speaker 10: guys knowing that Bill Belichick. Sure, Bill Belichick went to

524
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Speaker 10: Wesley and main Jenie went to Weslie, and there's tons

525
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 10: of small school guys. You know, you got Josh McDaniels,

526
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Speaker 10: you got Nick Cassero, guys coming from the D three schools,

527
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Speaker 10: and it's you can do it. You don't have to

528
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Speaker 10: play at the highest level to be able to coach

529
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Speaker 10: at the highest level. So it's just it was just

530
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Speaker 10: cool to get it, get your foot in the door,

531
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Speaker 10: a lot of people get in and then just to

532
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Speaker 10: pay that forward from what Shane did for me, and

533
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Speaker 10: then as we've all continued our careers, just just being

534
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Speaker 10: stubborn and just keep working through it. Some you know,

535
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Speaker 10: everybody's passed a little different, but it's it's definitely cool

536
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Speaker 10: to be at the highest level. It's a blessing for sure.

537
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Speaker 2: No doubt. Was that pretty cool for you last year

538
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Speaker 2: when it was your offensive line and his defensive line

539
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Speaker 2: and you guys had to exchange some pleasures, probably not

540
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Speaker 2: texta as much, and every said we didn't text as

541
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Speaker 2: much that week because of what was going on.

542
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it definitely was cool.

543
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Speaker 10: So I mean, I guess you could say it was

544
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Speaker 10: some bragging rights a little bit, but y yeah, anytime,

545
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Speaker 10: it's hard to win in the league, no matter who

546
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Speaker 10: you're going against, and if you're gonna you want to

547
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Speaker 10: beat everybody. But you know, just that competition and again

548
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Speaker 10: and you got two tough jump, three tough jumboes on

549
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Speaker 10: that field that day.

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Speaker 6: Coach in the NFL is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: It is pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned coming to the Browns with Man Genie assistant

553
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Speaker 2: offensive line coach in twenty ten. That was your first

554
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Speaker 2: kind of assistant position coach, and yet here you come

555
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Speaker 2: back fourteen years later and you were with Joe Thomas.

556
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Speaker 2: Then he remembered you when I was talking to the

557
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Speaker 2: hoff about you come back fourteen years later to be

558
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Speaker 2: the offensive line coach of the Cleveland bro So is

559
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Speaker 2: that something that that was maybe not on your radar then?

560
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Speaker 2: Certainly not. But did you ever think it was possible

561
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Speaker 2: you'd find your way back to Cleveland.

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Speaker 10: I just think anytime you have an opportunity to be

563
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Speaker 10: in one of the thirty two league offices, as I

564
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Speaker 10: like to talk about it, like as long as you're employed,

565
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Speaker 10: and you're in somewhere where you got a clicker to

566
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Speaker 10: watch tape and you got somewhere to work out, and

567
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Speaker 10: you can be involved in football, especially at the highest level.

568
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Speaker 6: It's a blessing.

569
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Speaker 10: So you know, you don't think about it in those terms,

570
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Speaker 10: but it's you know what opportunities are out there, and

571
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Speaker 10: you know it was to be able to come back

572
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Speaker 10: to Cleveland because I've been here before is pretty special

573
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Speaker 10: for sure.

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Speaker 2: So I'm sure you probably remember this picture.

575
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Speaker 3: There he is when we've got there.

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Speaker 2: He is the young, young, young coach Dickerson, the shaved heads.

577
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Speaker 2: So we've come away different, We've come a long way.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen years they.

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Speaker 6: Got rid of those pictures. But yeah, a little different,

580
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Speaker 6: little different, little growth.

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Speaker 3: For sure. It's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: So when you came here originally, and I think some

583
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Speaker 2: people remember this, maybe not all, but your first interview

584
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Speaker 2: here was actually for the offensive coordinator position. Yes, so

585
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Speaker 2: obviously you made quite an impression in that interview that

586
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Speaker 2: they said, well.

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Speaker 11: They're not good enough to be there, not just we

588
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 11: need you in our program, right Like that's to me,

589
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Speaker 11: that's somebody says, hey, maybe not this, but we need

590
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Speaker 11: you here and maybe down the line that's that could

591
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Speaker 11: be in the offing.

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Speaker 3: But how did that? Do you remember that interview process?

593
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Speaker 4: How it went?

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Speaker 10: And it was It was probably one of the cooler

595
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Speaker 10: things I've gotten to experience, honestly in my career because

596
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Speaker 10: I haven't fortunately or unfortunately however you want to look

597
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Speaker 10: at it, I haven't had to interview a ton right right.

598
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Speaker 10: You know, you know people, you connect with people you

599
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Speaker 10: work with them. You you know, going with Mangini from

600
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Speaker 10: you know, the Patriots to the Jets and the Jets

601
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Speaker 10: then here and then you know, blinking back to go

602
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Speaker 10: back to the Jets and just different people association that

603
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Speaker 10: you get the interviews with or you know.

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Speaker 6: But this was a true interview process, so I got

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Speaker 6: I mean, it was very thorough. It was a full

606
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Speaker 6: day affair. Why wouldn't you It's a very important job.

607
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 10: But you know, being able to you know, finally really

608
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Speaker 10: meet you know, Andrew Berry, to meet Kevin Stefancy, to

609
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 10: meet with Ownership was amazing, and meet with all the

610
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Speaker 10: different groups of people that you interact with without the

611
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Speaker 10: whole process, and you know, it was you know, a

612
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Speaker 10: little nerve wracking.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, it's okay, whoa this is.

614
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Speaker 10: An opportunity that I have and you don't really think

615
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Speaker 10: it from the online perspective. I think a lot of

616
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Speaker 10: times guys don't think, oh, sees that step. But because

617
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Speaker 10: again it usually goes to the past guys whatever, because

618
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Speaker 10: again they have a more of an understanding of the

619
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Speaker 10: run game and the past game, where a lot of

620
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Speaker 10: times outline coaches, you know, you got protection, you got

621
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Speaker 10: the run game, but that past, that.

622
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Speaker 6: That other element, all that stuff.

623
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Speaker 10: But to be to have the experience, I have to

624
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Speaker 10: have the thought process of how are going to answer

625
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Speaker 10: these questions, what is my football philosophy? How do I

626
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Speaker 10: think about those things? And it was just to be

627
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Speaker 10: able to have that, you know, go through that that

628
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Speaker 10: exercise and you know, make note cards like I was

629
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Speaker 10: by in college with writing a paper and just organize

630
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Speaker 10: my thoughts on the you know, the flight over and

631
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Speaker 10: then getting the you know, the interview got picked up

632
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Speaker 10: and then started meeting with people and just sitting down

633
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Speaker 10: and just it was just cool. Me and coach Defans

634
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Speaker 10: Gear about the same age. I think I'm a little older,

635
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 10: but you know, he grew up right outside of Philadelphia.

636
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 10: I grew up in Wilmington, Delaware. So both grew up

637
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 10: rooting for all the Philly sports teams and then you know,

638
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 10: both been in the league, similar started internship, you know,

639
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 10: interns and then getting in there. So but just sit

640
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 10: down and talk football with somebody, because again, after you know,

641
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 10: we got let go in Seattle, you're sitting there and

642
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 10: you're questioning, like, am I good enough?

643
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Speaker 6: What's going on? I think those are just natural thoughts

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Speaker 6: to have.

645
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Speaker 10: And then you get a call and it's you perk up,

646
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Speaker 10: and then you start, oh, now you get to talk

647
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 10: football again, and you sit down and you put the

648
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Speaker 10: tape on. You just talk about the concepts and different

649
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 10: things you were part of and to be able to

650
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Speaker 10: explain that and just have a football conversation.

651
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Speaker 6: Something that used to doing all the time.

652
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Speaker 10: Yeah, and then you then you get to do it

653
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Speaker 10: with Oh, I'm meeting with a head coach for an opportunity,

654
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 10: I'm meeting with the GM, I'm meeting all these different

655
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 10: awesome people and just you know, the best best thing

656
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 10: that was just it was kind of didn't think in

657
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 10: a weird way. It's like do you really belong in

658
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 10: this interview process? And then you go through the whole

659
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 10: thing and you're like, Wow, I feel really good about that.

660
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 10: I had a good time just learning these people that

661
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 10: I have never met before and just exchanging ideas and

662
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 10: just having a football conversation, which when you love football

663
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 10: and you do it all the time, like that's what

664
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 10: you want to talk about. It's your hobby, it's your passion,

665
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 10: and you get to talk about it. And I left

666
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 10: either way, I left feeling really good about the experience

667
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 10: and meeting with these guys. If it didn't work out,

668
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 10: then something else made. Maybe it wouldn't be this year,

669
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 10: maybe just down the line, but just to have that

670
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 10: connection because you see people at the combine, you see

671
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 10: in the game.

672
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 6: So I thought it was It was just a great It.

673
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 10: Was an awesome experience, and it's I kind of wish

674
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 10: I'd had more interviews previously, just to meet more people

675
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 10: and have more discussions and to be able to kind

676
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 10: of tighten up those thoughts about philosophy.

677
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 6: And just the whole thing. It was an awesome, awesome experience.

678
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: And it strikes me just in talking to here today,

679
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: there are probably a lot of similarities. You guys kind

680
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: of have a similar disposition. Some all of your highly

681
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: intelligent peace people love football. So I feel like it

682
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: probably felt like kind of natural with ab And and Kevin

683
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: and even probably Paul. If you talk to Paul, that

684
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: that group, it feels like you would fit right in.

685
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 10: I mean, I would hope, So I hope about the

686
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 10: outlier of that crew. But it was just a good

687
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 10: crew to be it. No, there's no doubt. And so

688
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 10: it's just it was just cool again to just have

689
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 10: a conversation football and you get a feel and a

690
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 10: flow for how everything goes. And besides having, you know,

691
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 10: wearing a suit and being a little uncomfortable, but besides that,

692
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 10: it's you know, usually used to wearing sweats and t shirt.

693
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: But and you like to your favorite flip flops, right.

694
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 6: Flavor flip flops.

695
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 10: It's a vacation for your feet as much as you can,

696
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 10: but you know, you got to put sneakers on when

697
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 10: you get on the grass. But you know, yeah, it

698
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 10: was it was just like it was an awesome experience

699
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 10: just to have a football conversation with these great people.

700
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: When I moved here back in two thousand and one,

701
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: when I moved to Cleveland, I was in Atlanta partor that,

702
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: and I grew up in the San Francisco area, I

703
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: wore flip flops the first year as like a conscientious objector,

704
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: like I'm not this winner's garbage. I can't stand it.

705
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't care. It's not taking flip flops.

706
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: Off my feet.

707
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: That was kind of my philosophy.

708
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 10: It's not a bad The snow is when you really

709
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 10: got a second guess yourself.

710
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: Just be situational to how far I can park.

711
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 10: But if I can wear flip flops, I'm gonna wear them,

712
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 10: knowing that okay, rain is okay. Again, being in Seattle,

713
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 10: you have to power through some things, but with snow,

714
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 10: that's probably I'm gonna draw the line.

715
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, fair enough.

716
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna ask you a question that maybe was

717
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: one of their interview ones about you kind of as

718
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: an offensive line coach. What is your football philosophy coaching

719
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: and offensive line?

720
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 10: I think the biggest thing is, you know what I'd

721
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 10: like to say is it starts with finish, but it

722
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 10: begins with technique, and it's like, well, what does that

723
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 10: really mean? It starts with finishes. There's a mentality. Everything

724
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 10: you're gonna do better be a walk through, a meeting,

725
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 10: a lift, like you're gonna finish that get all you

726
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 10: can out of it. But through that, there's technique. It

727
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 10: begins with technique, it truly becomes it comes to the life.

728
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 10: The whole thing comes to life with technique. So it's

729
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 10: the nuances, it's the details, it's all those things. And

730
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 10: the communication has to go on between those five guys.

731
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 10: That's a team in itself, that's a unit within itself

732
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 10: as a team within a team, and you got to

733
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 10: communicate to the tight ends. You got to talk to

734
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 10: the quarterbacks. Maybe you're communicating to a wide receiver. So

735
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 10: with that, it's just that's your team. So you're coordinating

736
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 10: those that group of guys, So they have to be

737
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 10: all working together because if one's wrong out of that,

738
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 10: they're all wrong. Like you know, football is the ultimate

739
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 10: team sport. You have to have all eleven in protection

740
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 10: and then the run game. So just putting that stuff together,

741
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 10: and those guys and inherently alignment are smart, they're tough.

742
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 10: Usually don't get a lot of credit, which is okay

743
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 10: because that's just comes with the territory.

744
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: Mushrooms they grow in the dirt, yeah right, yeah.

745
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 10: Put them, feed them, feed them garbage, put them in

746
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 10: the dirt. And yet still they flourish something along those lines.

747
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 10: But it's just that that's it. The communication and the

748
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 10: focus and the detail of that that group within the group,

749
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 10: you know, that's you.

750
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 6: Know, that's the starting point of that philosophy. I think

751
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 6: that encompasses.

752
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: What's it like coming into a room where the starters,

753
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: whoever they end up being, have all played together. That

754
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: the core certainly along the interior, those three have played

755
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: together for a long long time. Jack's been here for

756
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: a while, Jed's been here for a while, Michael Dunnbakump,

757
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: he's been here for a while. Luke was in the

758
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: system last year. That it's most of the principles or

759
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: guys we hope our principles this year. And you know,

760
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: Row with injuries as you and I were talking about

761
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: prior to going on the air, have been in the

762
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: system and work the other How helpful is that for

763
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: you and being able to come in and know that

764
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: there is an established.

765
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 10: Group here, Yeah, for sure. I mean there's nothing like

766
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 10: playing experience. You know, you're throwing there like you know

767
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 10: James Hudson as well, and of course just guys that

768
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 10: have all played and played NFL snaps. So just to

769
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 10: get those reps, So you know, watching Whippler play in

770
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 10: that you know, some of those games and just his

771
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 10: reps at center or guard, just to see him move

772
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 10: and see him operate in a game.

773
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 6: The same thing.

774
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 10: You know, it's with Ethan and Seattle for that year.

775
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 10: So having that familiarity. Inn you know, went and worked

776
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 10: out Joel when he was coming out as a rookie,

777
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 10: So aging myself a lot.

778
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: Did you know he was going to go on to

779
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: be I mean he was a good player.

780
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 6: I was like, man, I'd love to have that guy.

781
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: He's awesome.

782
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: You do.

783
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Now he's part of the crew.

784
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 10: So it's always good that whenever you have a team

785
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 10: that's had experienced O line has been together, you know,

786
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 10: the team within the team, those calls, those nuances like

787
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 10: you have what's on paper, but those guys within themselves,

788
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 10: the communication from the center to everybody, but then guards

789
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 10: and tackles knowing how to play off each other. Same

790
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 10: thing with the interior those guys. So having that established,

791
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 10: you know, relationships that they have, that bond that they

792
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 10: already have, and then just stacking with a lot of

793
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 10: the system is definitely beneficial.

794
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: I know, we are implementing newer concepts in our offense

795
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: that perhaps we didn't do as much of in the past.

796
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: And Kevin's talked about that obviously, with the addition of

797
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey and you and Tommy Reez and Deuce and

798
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: some new additions on that offensive staff, what are the

799
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: challenges when you have that established group who had been

800
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: with in a certain system with a certain coach ver

801
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: very reputable obviously in coach Callahan for many many years

802
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: in terms of well, they had techniques like this, but

803
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: maybe we're going to change it this way. Kind of

804
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: what's your philosophy on that, Like.

805
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think there's you bring in all these new

806
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 10: coaches and you put your putting together a system and

807
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 10: it's a constant thing. It's in my mind, you're trying

808
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 10: to get right by the kickoff the first time you

809
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 10: have to kick the ball off in real real play.

810
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 10: So you know, you have you know Roy, you have

811
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 10: Nick all So working in the old line room, so

812
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 10: those guys experiences where they're from, so all just collaborating.

813
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 10: And again even the players, like you talk to a

814
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 10: Jack Conkree, you talk to anything, you talk to a troll,

815
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 10: you talk to those guys who played and you asked,

816
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 10: you know, you get some insight from them as well.

817
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to.

818
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 6: Understand, Hey, what were you taught here? What was the

819
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 6: thought process?

820
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 10: So you haven't understand what they were trying to get

821
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 10: done and what they were being coached. And they were

822
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 10: number one coach really well and they did what they

823
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 10: were coached.

824
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: So it's all over the tape. I mean it. I

825
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 6: mean it's a good offensive line.

826
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 10: So you go in there and you're saying, Okay, what

827
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 10: are the things that were emphasized, what are the things

828
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 10: do we believe in?

829
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: And then you try to put.

830
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 10: Those together to whatever what's best for the team, not

831
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 10: what I want to do, not what one person wants

832
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 10: to do, what's best for the collective unit. So it's

833
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 10: cool to see that they're all coachable because they were

834
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 10: all doing very similar things.

835
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 6: And it's all over the tape.

836
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 10: The finish, the running down field, I mean, that's inherently

837
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 10: built into these guys, which is.

838
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: You know, it's awesome to see. I just you just have

839
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 6: to hey, don't hey that stuff.

840
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 10: That's awesome. We don't need to change that. Hey, here's

841
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 10: some different thought processes or techniques or tweaks a certain

842
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 10: things but you know, every week, it's what's the best

843
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 10: thing to help us win against that against that team

844
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 10: that playing. What's the scheme is a dependent like all

845
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 10: the things that go into that. So again I like

846
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 10: to say in the room, like we're having a football conversation,

847
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 10: I want it to be a two way street to

848
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 10: understand what's going on and have them have input and

849
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 10: ownership because they're the ones doing it. It's not my

850
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 10: offensive line, it's their offensive line. They're the one's out

851
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 10: there doing it. But I mean, it's been great to

852
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 10: sit down with Roy and Nick and just talk about

853
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 10: you Roy being in Philly with those great old lines

854
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 10: and all the stuff that he's learned and learning from

855
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 10: him because it's like, hey, okay, this is a different play.

856
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 10: I don't know this play, Like like, help me understand

857
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 10: what's going on here, and we just go back and

858
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 10: forth and having that those dialogues with Tommy as well.

859
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: So you're having a blast, right, and you get the

860
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: top football like it's.

861
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 6: Your passion, and you get to go to work every day, right.

862
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 10: There was there were some days I wasn't going to

863
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 10: work and that's not as enjoyable. So just being able

864
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 10: to learn you're you're a constant learner when you're in

865
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 10: an education environment, and we are teachers.

866
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 6: We are trying to.

867
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 10: Give this information to these players and help them execute

868
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 10: to the best of their ability and make them the

869
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 10: best that they can be.

870
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: Is Dewan the biggest offensive lineman you've worked with?

871
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: Probably big dude, He's a big individual.

872
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is awesome. He is awesome.

873
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 6: He's great.

874
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't know many people who you know, they're Okay, Well,

875
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: you get to sit behind Jack for all year and

876
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: then week one he's out, and how your first starts

877
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: TJ Watt Monday Night football, good luck, and then he

878
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: goes out there and is great.

879
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 10: I mean when he and again it was great because

880
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 10: we uh we actually did a zoom interview with Dewan

881
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 10: when I was at Seattle, So again it was cool.

882
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 10: After the game when we played, I got to going

883
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 10: up to him and saw him and just told him,

884
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 10: like how it's awesome to see how he you know,

885
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 10: had to step in and play because you know, injuries happened,

886
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 10: that's part of that's part of the game, and so

887
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 10: you have.

888
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 6: To be ready.

889
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: He dealt with that last year in Seattle.

890
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, West some tackles in the first game as well.

891
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 10: It happens, so everybody's got to be read. You got

892
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 10: a guy like Michael Dunn who we had as a

893
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 10: rookie free agent in Los Angeles, and to see him

894
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 10: work and work and work and put the work in

895
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 10: and still be in the league because the average was

896
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 10: like three years at somebody, especially an undrafted free the

897
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 10: odds that are stacked against you.

898
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: But that's the type of person that he is.

899
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 10: He works, he's smart, he's diligent, he cares, and so

900
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 10: that's where, okay, he has to go in and you're

901
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 10: not looking You're not looking at a drop off. You're okay,

902
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 10: you're going in there, you're calling the plays, you're not

903
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 10: changing things in my mind, because he's he's earned that right,

904
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 10: which is awesome to see that he does that as well.

905
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: You had to come in in twenty twenty when we

906
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs. Joel was out that week. You

907
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: had to go start and get Cam Hayward and played

908
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: his butt off.

909
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: He was there.

910
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 6: You go phenomenal, And that's the thing from an undrafted

911
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 6: free agent.

912
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 10: Again, it's not how you get into the league, right,

913
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 10: whether it be you played your d one as a

914
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 10: coach or are you coming from division iree Nescak Okay,

915
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 10: do you work at it?

916
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 6: Do you do you care? Do you get better at it?

917
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 6: And so there's a role.

918
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 10: If you work hard and are smart and or diligent,

919
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 10: usually good things happened to you, There's.

920
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Talking with the Browns offensive line

921
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: coach Andy Dickerson, rookie mini camp just happened.

922
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: That's it.

923
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of a neat experience in the

924
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: sense that it's really in your case or a couple

925
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: guys there, but it's like one on and you had

926
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: your assistant, so it's almost like a coach to player

927
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: ratio is one to.

928
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 6: One learning environment.

929
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 10: Yeah right, Yeah, you get these guys in, you know,

930
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 10: Zach Zenter, got Lorenzo, got Jvion, We got Roy in here,

931
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 10: you know, and as well just guys that are coming

932
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 10: in and just so eager, ready to learn. And that's

933
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 10: the fun part because you have to reset and you

934
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 10: can't take it different than the group you're talking about.

935
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, you had this play last year. We remember this.

936
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 10: Okay, great, right, you hit the details, you hit all

937
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 10: those points. But those guys are hearing that information for

938
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 10: the umpteenth million times. They still need it by the vets.

939
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 10: But then you get the rookies where it's like, okay,

940
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 10: let me slow down.

941
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 6: What are the nuances?

942
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: What they haven't even done some of the drills before, right.

943
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, So you're teaching drills, you're showing examples of that,

944
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 10: trying to get them ready to perform with the walkthrough,

945
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 10: and hey, here's what we're gonna do during individual you

946
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 10: talk about those things and you have the time to

947
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 10: walk through it, talk through it and correct it as

948
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 10: it goes. So again there's you know, again Roy had

949
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 10: some different drills from Philadelphia, so it's like, hey, let's

950
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 10: incorporate these things.

951
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 6: I think this is a great drill.

952
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 10: So it's like, Okay, you're learning and I'm stepping back

953
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 10: and I'm you know, he's running it because I'm trying

954
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 10: to learn from him that drill. So you were teaching

955
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 10: these guys that to teach them to plays terminology, and

956
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 10: again their bright eye eager. You know, the first when

957
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 10: you're supposed to be there at nine o'clock, everybody's in there,

958
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 10: see it as you know, ten minutes early, ready, notebook's out, ready,

959
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 10: and it's they're ready to go.

960
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: That's a coach that loves rookie Mendi camp there there early.

961
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 10: It's great because and you're excited about it and you

962
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 10: get to go through and it's like, ooh did I

963
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 10: cover that? Do we talk about this now? Okay boom.

964
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 10: Just so again it helps us reset as well. You know,

965
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 10: we've already been meeting with the other guys, but to

966
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 10: take it back in and then get back to Okay,

967
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 10: here are the fundamentals, here's the starting point. Let's let's

968
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 10: let's start from day one, and here we're going to

969
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 10: build this system, build this offense that we have.

970
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: And then you know, same thing, labbit.

971
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 10: We might make some change, might call something one thing

972
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 10: and then a couple of days later calling it something else.

973
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 10: But just so they can hear the material and try

974
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 10: to get caught up so when the vets are back,

975
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 10: then they're ready to go and can get in there

976
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 10: and not miss a beat.

977
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: How's the terminology been for you? It's similar to well.

978
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, again again, it's a lot of a lot of

979
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 10: carryover stuff. But then it's like, okay, I used to

980
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 10: use that word, but now maybe.

981
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 6: This is a different word. So you're just continuing to filter.

982
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: Through the wild thing to me about the NFL.

983
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a you know, you know, it's you know

984
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 10: two plus two?

985
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 6: Is it dosey dose?

986
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 8: Like?

987
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 6: What? What? What is it? What are you trying to

988
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: relate it to? Everybody's had those plays.

989
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 10: Zack Zenter's had these plays, Javian has had these plays,

990
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 10: Lorenzo's had these plays.

991
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 6: But what did they call it before?

992
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 10: So it's just placing it in a different bucket to

993
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 10: get your mind right so you can don't think and

994
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 10: just play all.

995
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to get you out here on this.

996
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: So we very much appreciate time it's been.

997
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. And that's what I asked

998
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: all the players first time I ever to read them.

999
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: What's something you want Cleveland Browns fans to know about?

1000
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: Andy Dickerson doesn't have to do anything with football, but

1001
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: when they kind of see you out there on the sideline,

1002
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: so they come to training camp and they see you,

1003
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: what's something you want them to be thinking about you?

1004
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: Wow?

1005
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 10: Uh, this is a guy who enjoys what he's doing

1006
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 10: and he looks like he's having fun because because I

1007
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 10: am football, Like I said, It's a blessing to be

1008
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 10: able to be in an NFL building, to be working

1009
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 10: with these guys, and I mean it's football. It's like

1010
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 10: it's okay, it's my occupation, but it's also my passion.

1011
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 10: So you know, hopefully they see me like, this guy

1012
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 10: has fun. He enjoys what he's doing. He enjoys teaching

1013
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 10: and seeing these guys take a technique or a play

1014
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 10: or an understanding and executing that at a high level

1015
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 10: and seeing them have success at practice, at well, whatever

1016
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 10: it is. To have them have success and be successful,

1017
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 10: that's that that makes me happy.

1018
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

1019
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the time.

1020
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

1021
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 9: New running backs coach Douce Daly was a guest on

1022
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 9: Browns Daily about a month ago. You'll hear his conversation

1023
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 9: with Nathan and bow. It is a good one. You

1024
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 9: will not want to miss it when we kick off

1025
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Speaker 9: hour two of Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by

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1028
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet Now

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Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 9: We hope you're enjoying this special Best of Coaches edition

1031
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 9: of Cleveland Browns Daily as we near the start of

1032
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Speaker 9: the twenty twenty four seas and training camp at the

1033
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Speaker 9: Greenbrier in West Virginia. I'm Jason Gibbs. The facility on

1034
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Speaker 9: shutdown for the week. That's why you get best of

1035
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Speaker 9: shows Monday and Tuesday, and another victory Friday. It'll be

1036
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Speaker 9: Victory Friday number nine against the Chicago Bears on Wednesday,

1037
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Speaker 9: otherwise known as a First Friday. So you get a

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Speaker 9: victory Friday on a First Friday, and then we're off

1039
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Speaker 9: Thursday Friday and back with you next Monday, July. The

1040
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 9: eighth running backs coach Douce Daley joined the show a

1041
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 9: month ago to talk about how his career has come

1042
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 9: full circle from playing in the NFL to now coaching

1043
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 9: running backs in his first season with the Cleveland Browns.

1044
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: Do thank you so much for taking the time every

1045
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 5: time that in this first time we've met.

1046
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 4: I met you.

1047
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: Maybe you had before, Zee, but first time I've met you,

1048
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: I have seen you, whether it be on NFL films

1049
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: or Hard Knocks or whatever. As there is something infectious

1050
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 5: about your leadership. At what age did you realize that

1051
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 5: when you spoke and when you acted, people followed.

1052
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 4: But I just started now I'm joking, you know.

1053
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 12: Just being able to be around my uncle's growing up

1054
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 12: and some of the older guys in my family watching

1055
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 12: them do it and not talking football, just watching them lead,

1056
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 12: you know, was important for me.

1057
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 4: And just being.

1058
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 12: Able to see how they take it to another level

1059
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 12: by showing read examples, and also just being able to

1060
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 12: talk to someone and give them the energy and give

1061
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 12: them the juice.

1062
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 4: To finish a project. A lot of my uncles were carpenters.

1063
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 12: So they had their teams and they had to be

1064
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 12: able to take their team and show them the plan

1065
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 12: for that day and how they're going to execute the plan.

1066
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 12: And when it slowed down, the jobs slowed down, and

1067
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 12: I was young at the time.

1068
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 4: I would hear my uncles, right, man, come here, stop

1069
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: what you're doing. Everybody, come here. We got to finish this.

1070
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: Pleet pleep pleap, pleep plea please, and it has to

1071
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 4: be pleep plea please, pleep plee please.

1072
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 12: And meanwhile, I'm young. I was supposed to cover my ears,

1073
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 12: but my ears would never covered, so there was.

1074
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: A lot of blea bleep bleachs. I try to go

1075
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 4: home and tell my mom, Mom, there's a lot.

1076
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 12: Of bleak, bleep bleaps today. She's like, all right, I

1077
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 12: understand where you're coming from.

1078
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: You leave it there now. It's just fun.

1079
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 12: It's fun simply because I got a chance to live

1080
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 12: vi casually through these guys and play the game all

1081
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 12: over again. So I tell my running backs, I tell

1082
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 12: everybody that's on the team, Listen, I am you want

1083
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 12: you out there. So when you make a sack, I

1084
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 12: just made it too. When you score a touchdown, I

1085
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 12: just scored it too. So when you dance, I'm dancing.

1086
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 12: When you celebrate, I'm celebrating.

1087
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: When you get hit too hard, I don't like that.

1088
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: So I mean you did something wrong.

1089
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: Now I get well, I don't actually get ahead of Yeah. Yeah,

1090
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: that's a good thing.

1091
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you.

1092
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: We were so thrilled, obviously know your career as an Eagle,

1093
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: as a steeler hard Knocks. You got obviously a lot

1094
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: of attention on that show with Detroit, and it was

1095
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: like love to have that kind of passion in the building,

1096
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: and you're a passionate player. You took five years off,

1097
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: what made you say, you know what I need to

1098
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: get back in this game and coach and you did

1099
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: kind of like coach the fancy right started as a

1100
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: special team's quality control coach. Sorry from the bottom, and

1101
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: you've worked yourself up to be an assistant head coach

1102
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: running back coach here obviously, what made you kind of

1103
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: say in that time off from away from the game,

1104
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: I need to come back in the league and I

1105
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: think I can help these young men.

1106
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 12: So my whole life, I've been driven by passion and fury.

1107
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 12: No it's a deadline between them both, no doubt. But

1108
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 12: the passion is the love for the game, just being

1109
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 12: a part of it, being out there amongst my peers,

1110
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 12: my friends, being able to share something I love with them.

1111
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 12: The fury was the violence that I played with. Yes

1112
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 12: you did, It's what I brought to the game. So

1113
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 12: once I got away from that, I was like, Okay,

1114
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 12: I can't go to TV and get the violence and

1115
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 12: the fury and the passion and love can show a

1116
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 12: little bit. But then my leg would start shaking because

1117
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 12: I wanted to be out there playing once again. Then

1118
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 12: I said, nothing against you guys, I can't go to

1119
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 12: radio and get that you know, that itch scratch or

1120
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 12: you know, kind of get that feeling.

1121
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: So I got a coach. It's the next best thing. Yep.

1122
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 12: So how do I go and get back on the

1123
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 12: field and get close to doing what I was doing

1124
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 12: and being able to show that passion, that love, that dedication,

1125
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 12: that fury, you know, all over again. And I'll never forget.

1126
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 12: Andy Reid gave me a call. Andy Reed was like, hey,

1127
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 12: what are you doing. I was like, hey, coach man,

1128
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 12: I just got finished on a little radio TV. He said, hey,

1129
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 12: won't you come back and do the program, the minority

1130
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 12: coaching program and to see what you have, you know,

1131
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 12: see if you want to do it or not. And

1132
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 12: never forget walking through the door. And there was Lashan McCoy.

1133
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: Now at the time, I didn't really know the kid.

1134
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 12: I knew Wes was there, and you know, Wes was

1135
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 12: of course older, a little bit older and bringing in

1136
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 12: new guys. That's just a part of the deal. And

1137
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 12: McCoy was young at the time. And I never forget.

1138
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 12: I told Andy. He was like, so what do you think.

1139
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 12: I was like, coach, I got three rules when it

1140
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 12: comes to coaching these guys. He said, give me the

1141
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 12: first one. So he pulls out his pad, get his pen.

1142
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 12: I said, he's gonna come to you crying, send him

1143
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 12: back to me. So sure he wrote it down. He

1144
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 12: was like, all right, So he looks up. What's number two?

1145
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 12: I said, he's gonna come to you crying, send him

1146
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 12: back to me. So now you've looked at me. Kind

1147
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 12: of funny, but he wrote it down. He said, what's

1148
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 12: number three? And I looked at him. He looked at me.

1149
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 12: I said, Coach, here's the truth. I said, Compare to

1150
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 12: what we went through with you, you've gotten sold. I said,

1151
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 12: I got to get that old ar, that old Andy

1152
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 12: reed back and then this team would be different. I

1153
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 12: need you to get back to installing. I need you

1154
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 12: to get back into the meeting rooms because the Andy

1155
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 12: Reid didn't the ain't know. Now are the ones that

1156
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 12: they see maybe Monday when you come through the building

1157
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 12: and Thursday at the team meeting. They need to see

1158
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 12: and Andy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So we had that conversation.

1159
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 12: It was fun and then at the end of this time,

1160
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 12: I'm kind of summing up like this, the end of

1161
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 12: my time there, it was over.

1162
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: So I went to Coach, I said, hey, man, thank

1163
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: you for everything.

1164
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 12: This has been awesome, you know, and I'm saying to myself,

1165
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 12: this is it. Yeah, here comes McCoy. Like you could

1166
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 12: see we were up at Lehigh University at the time

1167
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 12: with the Eagles. You see a kid running across.

1168
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 4: The park like, hey, where are you going?

1169
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 12: So I gotta go home. He was like, if you

1170
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 12: leave me right now, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

1171
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 12: And then from that point I was hired. So I'm

1172
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 12: here today.

1173
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 6: That's fantastic, incredible.

1174
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it really is. And as you you know,

1175
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: the one thing that about coaching or anything you do

1176
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 5: in life, you have to be authentically you. And there's

1177
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 5: no question, no doubt that you are that all of

1178
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: the time. But you've had a bunch of different voices.

1179
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 5: You talk about that Andy Reid experience early. Are there

1180
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 5: things that you've picked from different coaches that you apply

1181
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 5: to your trade now as you are evolving as a coach.

1182
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 12: Man, I had the pleasure honor to be around a

1183
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 12: lot of great coaches and players, And I tell people

1184
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 12: all the time, like, for me to play ten years,

1185
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 12: I was lucky. I was lucky playing running back during

1186
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 12: that time, especially when you face the true eight man boxes.

1187
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 12: Wasn't on RPO man. You line up, you point where

1188
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 12: you were running, basically by the formation, and that's where

1189
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 12: you're going. And just being around the rookie Waters, the

1190
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 12: Charlie Gardners, the Jerome Battis. I mean, the list goes on,

1191
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 12: just being around those guys and being able to learn

1192
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 12: and being able to understand. Okay, this is you as

1193
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 12: a player, and this is what I had to think

1194
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 12: back to. I remember walking through those doors being that rookie.

1195
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 12: I remember doing all the chores, and I remember also

1196
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 12: trying to learn each everything when it comes to the

1197
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 12: game of football and how I was supposed to go

1198
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 12: about playing it and be the best. Well, I had

1199
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 12: to remember that once I became a coach, because I'm

1200
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 12: doing it all over again. And I said to him,

1201
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 12: I said, Okay, I'm a rookie right now as a coach,

1202
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 12: so I got to learn the way I learned as

1203
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 12: if I was a rookie as a player.

1204
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: So from that point on, I learned.

1205
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 12: Coach Ted Williams was my coaching with Philadelphia, so I've

1206
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 12: learned a lot from him.

1207
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: He coached me.

1208
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 12: He was still in the building when I was assistant

1209
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 12: special teams coach, and then when I took over, he

1210
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 12: was still there.

1211
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: So being able to have someone.

1212
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 12: Who coached you who you can go lean on, you know,

1213
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 12: because the first thing you got, you got instant credibility

1214
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 12: walking through the door because you are Deuce as the player.

1215
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 12: What you want them to know is Deuce as a

1216
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 12: coach before you walk out that door. So you got

1217
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 12: to get in there and put your foot down right now.

1218
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 12: And that was interesting at first, but I might have

1219
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 12: the hang of it now.

1220
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: You have no problem probably captivating a room. I don't

1221
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: think there's any any doubt about that. Talking with Brown's

1222
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: running back coach Douce Staley, tell us how this came

1223
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: to be because I think you look at you look

1224
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: at our staff certainly, and obviously you cross paths in

1225
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 2: Philadelphia with a lot of people in this building. We

1226
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: made some changes on the offensive staff, and you are

1227
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: fiery and passionate, and I'm sure you know now the

1228
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 2: head coach of the football team a little bit more

1229
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: kind of a little more steady, Jim Schwartz. Still he

1230
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: brings the passion the defense side. But you know what's

1231
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: that kind of been like coming in here. How did

1232
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: the conversations go where they reached out to you and said, yeah,

1233
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: let's let's do this.

1234
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 12: So let's just address the elephant in the room. Okay,

1235
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 12: I got fired. I was with the Panthers, yeah, all right,

1236
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 12: at home, had a chance to go back home, and

1237
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 12: I'm kind of give this to you real fast. I

1238
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 12: was with Detroit okay, boom, I had left Philadelphia. Went

1239
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 12: to Detroit. Awesome experience out there with coach Campbell. Ye,

1240
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 12: you were kind of talking about that earlier with hard

1241
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 12: Andre Swift and Aaron.

1242
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: Glenn is my guy. We had classic beauty. Yeah.

1243
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 12: So had opportunity to go back home. My mom has dementia,

1244
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 12: So had jumped on the opportunity to go back home

1245
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 12: and spend time with her. Okay, and was able to

1246
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 12: go with the Panthers coach right there, had a chance

1247
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 12: to win a Super Bowl with him in Philadelphy.

1248
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: That's the connection there. So went back home. I'm there.

1249
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 12: Things didn't work out, and this is life, you know.

1250
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 12: And one thing what football and I tell my guys

1251
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 12: in my room all the time when I give you nuggets,

1252
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 12: is something that pertains to football and life. And when

1253
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 12: I gave them the nugget of being fired. It was humbling,

1254
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 12: and that's what happens in life all the time. And you, me,

1255
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 12: and everybody that deals with situations like that got to

1256
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 12: find out how to deal with it and move on

1257
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 12: and learn, because if you don't deal with it, move

1258
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 12: on and learn, and stay stuck in it, it could

1259
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 12: it could punish you.

1260
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: So I've learned a lot from that situation.

1261
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 12: I was able to go and of course be ifire,

1262
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 12: get away from football, be able to see it back

1263
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 12: and watch teams play, and I remember, I remember watching

1264
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 12: the Browns play the Jets, and if I'm not mistaken,

1265
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 12: correct me if I was wrong, that game determined if

1266
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 12: you guys made it to.

1267
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 3: The playoffs Thursday night.

1268
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 12: So being able to sit back on my couch man

1269
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 12: watch all that energy I mean in the stadium, the

1270
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 12: excitement all over again, just the opportunity to say, hey,

1271
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 12: guess what we're going to become a playoff team.

1272
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 4: All right, we're in the tournament. No matter what number y'are.

1273
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 12: All you got to do is open the door and

1274
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 12: get your foot in the tournament and get ready for war.

1275
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: I remember that when I was an Eagle.

1276
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 12: I remember that, and way back in the days when

1277
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 12: once upon a time they were calling us the Buffalo

1278
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 12: Bills when I played of the playoffs, because we could

1279
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 12: never get over the NFC Championship game. So to get there,

1280
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 12: we kind of hey man, you know, walking around all

1281
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 12: the tough here, we're here, but we could.

1282
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: Never win the big one.

1283
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 12: Well, just seeing that, just kind of bringing them together

1284
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 12: and going through my little small timeline, just seeing all

1285
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 12: that come together, the energy and being able to watch

1286
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 12: you guys kind of go out there and fight and

1287
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 12: take it away. You know, it was exciting for me

1288
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 12: for my couch. Now, I will say this, it was cold.

1289
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 12: It was cold, Yeah, I will say that. But so boom.

1290
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 12: Moving forward, fast forward a little bit. Andrew Berry had

1291
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 12: a chance. Andrew Berry was in Philadelphia. Andrew gave me

1292
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 12: a call and say, you know, a man would love

1293
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 12: to talk to you, and of course I said I

1294
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 12: would love to talk back.

1295
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: And that's how I got started.

1296
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 5: This was a This is a room for the better

1297
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 5: part of the last decade, half decade at least.

1298
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: Where it's been well.

1299
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Speaker 4: We got Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 6: We're good.

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Speaker 5: Nick had a catastrophic injury last year. He's rehabbing like crazy.

1302
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 5: If anyone can get back from it. It will be Nick.

1303
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 5: You know he's gonna attack it. But it's it's a

1304
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 5: lot of young guys in this room. Now you've been

1305
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 5: able to now see these guys.

1306
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 6: A little bit now through this ota process.

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00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 5: What do you make of the room that's here, knowing

1308
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 5: that Nick is out there and eventually he'll be back.

1309
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, First, I think is best to kind of put

1310
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: out there what coaching is to me. All Right.

1311
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 12: The number one thing when it's comes to coaching is

1312
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 12: putting the players in position to make plays.

1313
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: That's number one.

1314
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 12: Number two is getting them to run through a brick

1315
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 12: wall with me and not for me, because I'm gonna

1316
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 12: run through it first. If they decide to come along,

1317
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 12: I got the right ones. If they don't, I need

1318
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 12: to show them the door because that's the energy, the

1319
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 12: passion that you gotta play with, you gotta practice with.

1320
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 12: And I tell my guys all the time, don't wait

1321
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 12: to turn it on when you got a crowd behind you.

1322
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 12: Don't wait to turn it on when the TV is

1323
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 12: on and you're on the TV. How about turning on

1324
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 12: on a random August day when it's hot outside and

1325
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 12: you got to go out there and show who you

1326
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 12: are on that field. So that connection as soon as

1327
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 12: you walk into the room the first day I walk

1328
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 12: into the room of every room, no matter how long

1329
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 12: I've been there, I never picked the remote up, because

1330
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 12: if you pick the remote up, in my opinion, the

1331
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 12: first day you walk in.

1332
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 4: That room, you lose them.

1333
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 12: I need to be able to pick up the remote

1334
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 12: forever and hold on to him versus one day.

1335
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 4: So you put the remote down, you look him in

1336
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: the eyes and ask him how is this going to be?

1337
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 12: So they'll tell you that. I give them a wall.

1338
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 12: You put your wives on the wall. I put my

1339
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 12: wires on the wall. Because here's why. It's gonna come

1340
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 12: a time where I got to point back to that why,

1341
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 12: because this role will be rocky. This role will be rocky.

1342
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 12: But I'm gonna point back to your why to remind

1343
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 12: you where we're going. I know how to get there.

1344
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 12: You just got to follow. So you get that together first.

1345
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 12: Then once you start looking around the room, all the

1346
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 12: talent from Jerome Pierre j Ca, I mean DFOE for me,

1347
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 12: we call the DEFA, I mean the room itself. It's

1348
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 12: very talented, and we know where Nick is right. And

1349
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 12: then I had a chance to spend some time with

1350
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 12: him when he was coming out.

1351
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: I went down there for a whole weekend. I tell

1352
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: you how much in love I was with them. I

1353
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: was like, oh yeah, y'all go do his program.

1354
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 12: I'm just gonna sit over here for us, like I'm

1355
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 12: gonna try to get them one on one afterwards. But

1356
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 12: just being able to have the competition in the room,

1357
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 12: now here's what's good. Every year you got to strap

1358
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 12: it up and prove who you are. That's what's so

1359
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 12: good about football. You can't come into this building, into

1360
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 12: through these doors and say well I was this last

1361
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 12: year and think you're okay. Won't happen. So you gotta

1362
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 12: go and compete. So I told those guys, and they

1363
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 12: looked at me kind of funny. I said, well, I

1364
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 12: don't have a number one. I don't have one. I

1365
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 12: don't have a number two. So each and each every day,

1366
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 12: each and every day, you want to prove to be

1367
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 12: that guy, show me, here's your opportunity, show me, may.

1368
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: The best be the best.

1369
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 12: So that's how we that's how we started our conversation off.

1370
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 12: They'll tell you that right now. It's still going on.

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 12: Compete every day. It's all about competition, because competition at

1372
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 12: the position coaches. So when they start listening to the coach,

1373
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 12: they gonna listen to the next guy in line because

1374
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 12: that's the competition. And he's trying to be you in

1375
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 12: order to be the best, and I tell him, in

1376
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 12: order to be the best around the lead, you got

1377
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 12: to be the best in the building.

1378
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: It's not the opposite, right, you gotta start there.

1379
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: You gotta start there.

1380
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 5: Can you is it if there's a time when like

1381
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 5: we're kind of sluggish, can we just like come in you.

1382
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: You know what?

1383
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 6: You know what.

1384
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 4: I'm down.

1385
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 12: But here's how y'all did me already? I didn't say anything.

1386
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 12: Where's my headphones? I like hearing people talk.

1387
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, man, with my headphones. I know,

1388
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 4: like this radio thing.

1389
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: To small producer, Small, the truth is you don't need

1390
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, because we're just well.

1391
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: I like hearing the commercials. I like hearing guys listen,

1392
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: you got thirty seconds noted.

1393
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: That's fun.

1394
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 5: Get the man his own headset from.

1395
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: Now and Sally gets his own headset whenever he's here.

1396
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 4: The end, it's a small little thank you, great seedy.

1397
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: I love thanks your stuff.

1398
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: By the studio. Thanks for having me.

1399
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: This is good captivating.

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 6: That was great stuff.

1401
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 4: You guys got to come out and to the drills. Man,

1402
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: you guys are in shame.

1403
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 5: I ain't doing no drill for you guys.

1404
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: I'll come out.

1405
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: I'll sit in a room with you.

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: No, come out and do some drills.

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01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: What you mean you're forty, I'll do some drills with it.

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01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, come on, well, absolutely, and we'll film it going

1409
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 12: back to show it.

1410
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll break it down.

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll set you up where you'll win.

1412
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now.

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01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, you're not gonna like

1414
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: my acceleration because it's non existent. Well, but but if

1415
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: you run a half back option where I can throw

1416
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: it quarterback, Okay, I can throw the ball.

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01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 4: Quarter think about me. This is what you know.

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01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 12: This is what you know. I don't pay attention to

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 12: the forties. I pay attention to the ten. Okay, So

1420
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 12: why because you're gonna get more first down than forty

1421
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 12: yard bursts, that's right. So if you can get a

1422
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 12: first down, you're good. Okay, you might have to take

1423
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 12: a week off.

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01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, we'll I'll take no, I'll take no. Say wow,

1425
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: you might get two yards. I'm you're ever going to

1426
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: get ten to one If I get one yard?

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Speaker 4: Won forward?

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah all yeah, four, that gets me two yards and studio.

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Speaker 9: Welcome back to this special Best of Coaches edition of

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Speaker 9: Cleveland Browns Daily, featuring some of our best interviews with

1442
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 9: our coaches on Cleveland Browns Daily over the last few months.

1443
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 9: Up next, one of our favorite coaches on the staff,

1444
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 9: Special Teams coordinator and former Browns Special team stand out,

1445
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 9: Bubba vent Trone, who recaps his position groups off season

1446
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 9: and breaks down the new kickoff rule and the different

1447
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 9: strategies the Browns might use.

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 5: The great Bubba Ventrone right off the gates, Man, good

1449
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: to see you, coach, Ubba well first time. And by

1450
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 5: the way people have dropped the ball previous to this,

1451
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 5: then if they haven't, yeah, that's what I would say.

1452
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 5: That feels like their problem more than anything else. How

1453
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 5: you doing, man good? Just fresh off the practice field.

1454
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 8: I'm doing great. We've We've had a really good off

1455
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 8: season so far.

1456
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 4: So excited.

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 5: You know, we will get into all the new rules

1458
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 5: and what you're seeing out here. But I did want

1459
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 5: to go back to last year, and I remember it

1460
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: was around this time that we interviewed you. We were

1461
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 5: actually over in the undisclosed location at that time. We

1462
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 5: interviewed you, and you were like a shot of adrenaline

1463
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 5: when I interviewed you, and I zee and I said, gosh,

1464
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 5: that dude is he is ready to roll? And then

1465
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: we saw this season play out and we haven't. I

1466
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 5: don't think I had a chance to talk with you

1467
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 5: at length since all of that, but we'd see these

1468
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 5: images of you in a helmet in the locker room

1469
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 5: and its postgame ceremonies as.

1470
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: Coach was given.

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Speaker 5: It was so great and your enthusiasm for it. How

1472
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 5: when you look back on last year, a season that

1473
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 5: had everything, can you put it into perspective now?

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01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think I think so.

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01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 6: It was, Uh, it was.

1476
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 8: It was a fun. It was a fun year for

1477
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 8: sure to win, to win football games. We won a

1478
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 8: lot of close football games and we won a lot

1479
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 8: of those games off.

1480
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 3: Of kicks special teams.

1481
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 8: There was a lot of contributions from our units.

1482
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: You know.

1483
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 8: We fortunately we blocked three field goals and we won

1484
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 8: all the games we blocked field goals in. We led

1485
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 8: the league in block field goals, which is great. I'm

1486
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 8: really excited about our core group going into this UH

1487
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 8: training camp.

1488
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: How nice is it to have that continuity. You think

1489
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: about the guys that you know, bombs from Corey Bjorkez,

1490
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: Charlie still at the long snapper, you bring back Dustin Hopkins.

1491
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: It was so great just on that side of it alone.

1492
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: How nice is that continuity?

1493
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 8: The consistency with a specialist group is so important to

1494
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 8: the overall you know, special teams unit and to be

1495
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 8: able to have all three of those guys back in

1496
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 8: return is awesome. We're so far ahead with our core

1497
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 8: group of where we were at this point last year

1498
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 8: because at least the guys that had are returning have

1499
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Speaker 8: been in the scheme and they're not learning everything for

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 8: the first time. Yeah, but I feel really good about

1501
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 8: our group.

1502
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 5: You think about last year and you mentioned de Hop

1503
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 5: and Corey, and of course what else do they have

1504
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 5: in common other being great that neither one was able

1505
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 5: to finish because we had the injuries that happened. They

1506
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 5: were I mean, de Hop was unbelievable, and then it,

1507
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 5: much like the rest of the roster, you had to

1508
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 5: find other people to do it. You rarely see that

1509
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 5: where you lose both the kicker and the punter, I

1510
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 5: mean the same game.

1511
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it was no, you don't see that often.

1512
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 8: It's never happened to me before. Hopefully it never happened right,

1513
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 8: right enough.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but there is that next man up thing, and

1515
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 5: then you had you guys had to do that too,

1516
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 5: because you're chasing the postseason.

1517
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 8: And that's what the NFL is about.

1518
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: That.

1519
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 8: It's you know, there's gonna be injuries the game of football.

1520
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 8: It's inevitable. It's going to happen. It's how well can

1521
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 8: you train and prepare the guys that are on the

1522
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 8: practice squad and then obviously have the off the you know,

1523
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 8: off the roster, our emergency list of guys that you're

1524
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 8: familiar with and just do the right thing. So I

1525
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 8: feel you know, our I feel like our coaching staff

1526
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 8: did an incredible job top the bottom last year with.

1527
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: That, There's no doubt about it. What's it like having

1528
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 3: Kid back?

1529
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 6: It's been good.

1530
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 8: It's been good. He's uh, I feel like he's in

1531
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 8: a better mindset. He looks more relaxed to me. Yeah,

1532
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 8: the on field stuff has been has been pretty good.

1533
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 8: We're gonna hopefully have a team field goal period at

1534
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 8: some point in the next two weeks. But he's been

1535
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 8: Him and Lucas and and Corey have been doing a

1536
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 8: good job.

1537
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1538
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a you think about drafted the way

1539
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: he was makes his first week, his first game ever

1540
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 2: was a fifty eight yard walkoff winner in Carolina, and

1541
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: then adds his struggles, gone, goes to another place, goes

1542
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: to another place, and now back. You're right, probably a

1543
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: little bit relaxed. There's the pressure is not on him

1544
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: to be the savior at that position today.

1545
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 8: It's at like being a specialist is different than being

1546
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 8: a position player. It just sometimes it just takes more

1547
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 8: time for a kicker for a punter.

1548
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, to make it.

1549
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 8: There's a handful of guys that have had really good

1550
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 8: careers that struggled early on, like Carlson in Vegas yep,

1551
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 8: was cut in Minnesota, yeah, right away, like and they

1552
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 8: drafted him. I want to say, like in the fifth round.

1553
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 8: Maybe you see Jake Bailey in Philly was drafted by Cincinnati.

1554
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 8: They cut him before the season even started, and now

1555
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 8: he's had it. He just got like a ridiculous contract

1556
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 8: in Philly. So I think there's something to be said

1557
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 8: about having patience with those with those guys, and fortunately

1558
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 8: we were able to get them back and you know,

1559
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 8: now he can use this time to develop and you know,

1560
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 8: become over there, like there's no doubt he's got a

1561
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 8: mention talent.

1562
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 4: Yes.

1563
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 5: Well, it's like you know, we hear people use the

1564
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 5: analogy before, and I think for our audience, you try

1565
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 5: to wrap your head around what that job is, and

1566
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 5: that job is we really don't ever want to know

1567
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 5: their name until we want to know their name kind

1568
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: of thing, like we don't want to notice them, especially

1569
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 5: like oh wow, who's.

1570
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 4: That doing that?

1571
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: And that's kind of It's a lot like golf, right

1572
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 5: for people of golf, Like there's a lot of time

1573
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 5: in between, and then you get on a t boxer,

1574
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 5: you'd get back deep if you're a punter, or you

1575
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 5: line up to land a kick, and then the expectation

1576
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: is make the thing, and if you don't, it's like

1577
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 5: what happened? And that takes a mental toughness.

1578
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: Can you coach that?

1579
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 8: I think it's honestly just trying to put them in

1580
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 8: that environment as much as you can, treating treating every

1581
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 8: practice like the game. I know it's hard to do that,

1582
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 8: but it really is, like you just have to have

1583
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 8: that mindset. If you do miss a kick, you just

1584
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 8: got to put it to bed, like make the correction fast,

1585
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 8: apply it to the next rep, and can't compound, So yeah,

1586
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 8: the faster. And I think, like I know with Dustin,

1587
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 8: Dustin does a really good job of self diagnosing, like

1588
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 8: he knows what he did on a bad rep, he

1589
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 8: comes back fixes it. I think that that's what we

1590
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 8: need to get to with Cade.

1591
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: So all right, let's talk about what may be a

1592
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: fun thing or maybe to you is not a fun thing.

1593
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: But for the first time you've got completely new kickoff rules.

1594
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 2: It's going to promote a lot of returns.

1595
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 5: And do you remember we were talking a year ago.

1596
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: I can't.

1597
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: I think it might have been off air. We talked

1598
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 5: about like, are they going to get rid of the kick.

1599
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 4: That was like a year ago.

1600
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 5: We're like, boy, they and we were like, we can't

1601
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 5: have that.

1602
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 2: And now this, now this, I'm going on record. I

1603
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: think the record for kickoff turned touchdowns in the NFL

1604
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: will be shattered this year.

1605
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: I think there will be a lot of house calls

1606
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 3: this year. What do you think, I think that.

1607
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 8: You could be I think that could be right. I

1608
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 8: feel that this is an opportunity to make a play

1609
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 8: on both sides. I think that you can have really

1610
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 8: good coverage versus play. I think that you can have

1611
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 8: really good returns versus play. It's how you execute. And

1612
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 8: I think that early on in the season, you're definitely

1613
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 8: gonna see a lot of a lot of different schemes,

1614
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 8: and there's gonna be some copy There's a lot gonna

1615
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 8: be a lot of copycat to everything that other people

1616
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 8: are doing, especially like in the preseason, and I think

1617
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 8: that you just have to understand, like you have to

1618
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 8: understand that it's an ongoing like throughout training camp, it's

1619
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 8: gonna be an ongoing trial and error with the play to.

1620
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: Get it right.

1621
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: So let's say you have you guys have discovered something

1622
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, this is gonna work. How do

1623
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: you decide? And I'll go back to last year when

1624
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: we were joking in here. I'm like, hey, maybe said

1625
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett block a kick and you've been sitting on

1626
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: that all year. Unleash it against Indianapolis and he blocks

1627
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 2: the kick? How hard is what's that balance going to be? Like?

1628
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure you said there's gonna be a lot

1629
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: of copycatting. You don't want to show if you guys

1630
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: think you really have something that's gonna work, Yeah, you

1631
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: don't want to show it at all. How do you

1632
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 2: kind of how does that as a co which in

1633
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: the staff? How do you guys kind of go through Yeah, Okay.

1634
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: We've got it. It's gonna work once and then they're

1635
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 3: gonna be onto it. But when do we need that?

1636
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1637
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 8: I don't know if I can give you a direct

1638
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 8: answer on that or like, you know, or if I

1639
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 8: feel like I have the secret the secret out there,

1640
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 8: but I mean back to the block field goal, I

1641
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,599
Speaker 8: mean that was ridiculous. Is a complete he's a complete

1642
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 8: three Yeah, and I'm glad he's on our team. But no,

1643
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, like I said, there's gonna

1644
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 8: be a lot of trial and error with it, with

1645
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 8: the play and then just you know, finagling a few

1646
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 8: things throughout training camp, trying to put your guys in

1647
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 8: the best spot to make a play. Obviously, we want

1648
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 8: to have explosive guys in the back end returning. You know,

1649
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 8: we have good we have good, a good group of

1650
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 8: skilled players that we've been getting reps to. You have

1651
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 8: guys that are not even out there right now, like

1652
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 8: but like Nahim obviously has a history. Yeah, Jerome Ford's explosive,

1653
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 8: Pierre you have we've been getting, like Elijah said Tillman,

1654
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 8: all those guys have caught balls back there. Yeah, I'm sorry, coach,

1655
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 8: I know you're good.

1656
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 5: Did they Was there did anyone consult with any of

1657
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 5: you guys like special teams coordinators, like, hey, what do

1658
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 5: you think about this? Was there any dialogue behind the

1659
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 5: scenes in the league about like, hey, we're thinking about

1660
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 5: making this change.

1661
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 3: What do you guys think about the play? About the play?

1662
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we actually we actually met as a coordinator,

1663
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 8: like all the coordinators met at the at the combine,

1664
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 8: and it had been in talks that the play was

1665
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 8: going to be something similar to this, so we kind

1666
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 8: of like made the play. Oh, kind of came from

1667
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 8: like the XIT like obviously XFL like background to it.

1668
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 8: And it's a different play because there can be a

1669
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 8: lot more scheme with how ours is set up, because

1670
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 8: there's they were already aligned on the thirty five hours

1671
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 8: are kickoff players are on the forty, and now we

1672
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 8: have seven guys on the front line as blockers on

1673
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 8: the thirty five, and then you can have two off

1674
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 8: of that, so now you have like certain levels they

1675
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 8: only had one returner, were able to have two returners

1676
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 8: in the landing zone, which is the twenty yard line

1677
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 8: to the goal on Yeah, so you can do more

1678
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 8: things off of it.

1679
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 5: Are we so damn exciting?

1680
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: It is exciting because the league doesn't do this.

1681
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 5: The league doesn't make wholesale changes, fundamental changes to the

1682
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 5: way the game is played. Very often it's not. I mean,

1683
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 5: it's this league. We've done things the same way for

1684
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 5: a long time and then you make a little tweak

1685
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 5: here or there. But this is I think they're gonna

1686
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 5: be fans. I mean this, they're gonna be fans the

1687
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 5: first preseason game or the first time this is done.

1688
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: Going what is it? What's happening?

1689
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 6: What is this?

1690
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 5: What are they doing? I promise you that's gonna happen.

1691
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: I think it takes a play that has become kind

1692
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: of obsolete and kick returners in some ways because you're

1693
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: good kicker. We're just gonna kick it out of the

1694
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: en zone. And all these guys in the NFL. Now, I

1695
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 2: mean that's the other thing is just the league strength

1696
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: around the league. They can just kick it out of

1697
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 2: the end zone so you can't return it. So now

1698
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: I think it has a chance to be a very

1699
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: exciting play and you might see I mean I could

1700
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: envision this an eara where you guys got through and say,

1701
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna throw Joel and Wyatt and like

1702
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: our big guys out there, and if we can win

1703
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: our one on one blocks, like and he makes one

1704
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: guy miss, he's gone.

1705
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: There's only one level of defense, right.

1706
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 8: And I think that there will be more balls return

1707
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 8: that are in the end zone. I don't think like

1708
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 8: in the like in like the last couple of years,

1709
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 8: you see like the balls going into the end zone.

1710
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 8: No one's even going to try to field it. Well,

1711
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 8: now you have to down every ball. You can't just

1712
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 8: give the iron cross and the ball hits the ground

1713
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 8: and it's a touch back. You have to catch and

1714
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 8: down every single ball. If the ball land.

1715
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 6: I didn't know that.

1716
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 8: If the ball hits inside the twenty yard line and

1717
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 8: rolls into the end zone and you take a knee,

1718
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 8: it's a touchback, but it goes to the twenty. Okay,

1719
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 8: so they're incentivizing returns.

1720
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

1721
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 8: If the ball's kicked into the end zone in the

1722
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 8: air and down, it's a touch back. It goes to

1723
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 8: the thirty. If the ball falls short of the forty

1724
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 8: yard line or of the I'm sorry, If the ball

1725
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 8: falls short of the twenty yard line, it's like the

1726
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 8: they blow the whistle dead. It's like the ball is

1727
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 8: kicked out of bounds. The ball goes to the forty.

1728
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: So they're trying to get everything to land between the

1729
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: twenty ball line.

1730
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 5: Yes, there are you could argue there there aren't many

1731
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 5: things in sport that are unilaterally more applause the boom

1732
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 5: than a kick return touchdown. We just haven't seen that many.

1733
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 6: You're going to see.

1734
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 8: You're going to see some plays throughout the league this year.

1735
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 8: For sure, you're going to see more. I said it

1736
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 8: earlier than that with the with the media said, you're

1737
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 8: going to see higher profile players back there. It's another

1738
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 8: opportunity to get a really like a really good football

1739
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 8: player the ball, like one of your players the ball.

1740
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: And it's in many cases it feels to me we

1741
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 2: were talking about that you get a laying one cut

1742
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: and if you're through, you're going to be gone.

1743
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 8: You're going to see a wide variety of the guys

1744
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 8: are actually handling the ball too. Like I think some

1745
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 8: of the Like I said this earlier, some of the

1746
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 8: concepts you're going to see are you're going to see

1747
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 8: some kick return concepts. You're also going to see some

1748
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 8: punp return concepts with because you are allowed the blocking,

1749
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 8: you're allowed to go go get on a kickoff team

1750
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 8: right away. So just think about that. That plays like

1751
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 8: a punt return almost so you could see like smaller guys.

1752
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 8: You could see bigger guys back there, and it's gonna

1753
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 8: you're gonna see a variety of of players.

1754
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: How do you balance? You know, in the in the past,

1755
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: it was kind of like all linebackers, safeties and tight

1756
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: ends right because you needed speed, but guys that were

1757
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: big enough to could tackle. Now because it's a compressed area,

1758
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 2: for sure, are you gonna see bigger guys on both sides?

1759
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 2: And because then all of a sudden, those guys now

1760
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: they don't take up as much space or cover as

1761
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: much space.

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 8: I think I think you will. I think you'll see

1763
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 8: bigger guys on the return unit. I think you'll see

1764
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 8: bigger guys.

1765
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to be.

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,799
Speaker 8: You're gonna see some definitely some more defensive, bigger bodies

1767
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 8: on the on the kickoff unit to know how to

1768
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 8: use their hands.

1769
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 5: Well, have you had some of the more high profile

1770
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 5: guys come up to you and say, hey.

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01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we have can I interest?

1772
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 3: I want you want to look my way?

1773
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 8: So when when they do that to me, I say, well,

1774
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 8: if you want to be on the unit, you have

1775
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 8: to you have to come to the meetings. You're going

1776
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 8: to be in the So they're like okay, Like, but no,

1777
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 8: that we've Yeah, we've definitely had some more guys like

1778
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 8: reach out and and I feel like when we're like

1779
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 8: when we've been practicing, there's like a lot of juice

1780
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 8: in the huddle, Like those guys are like because they

1781
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 8: haven't a lot of those guys that are getting reps now,

1782
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 8: like defensive players haven't been in that huddle. They haven't

1783
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 8: done it before, and they're like excited to do it.

1784
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 8: And it's another chance to like it's another chance to

1785
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 8: make a tackle, it's another chance to make a turnover.

1786
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 3: You know, do you get.

1787
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 5: This is a play that has been been out of

1788
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 5: our league?

1789
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 4: Do really?

1790
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 5: I mean the kick return has largely been out of

1791
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 5: our league in terms of taking to.

1792
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 3: The yard, like you think of has writ cribs at all?

1793
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 5: I mean all those guys, like it's been a long

1794
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 5: time since you've had those guys who would?

1795
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 4: Who could?

1796
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 5: And and that play when that play happens to start

1797
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 5: a game, it's the loudest any NFL stadium is ever.

1798
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: Remember when she he just set he ran one in

1799
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: the preseason it was Bedlam's.

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Speaker 6: Actually over that play.

1801
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would, I mean cribs and like hester with

1802
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,520
Speaker 8: this play, Oh my gosh.

1803
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 4: It'd be Yeah.

1804
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 5: It's fun though, Like I think, I just think it's

1805
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 5: really cool that it that it that the players are

1806
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 5: responding to it. I think it's really cool. I'd never

1807
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 5: heard that that you guys were consulted on it. I

1808
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 5: think that's really critical. And I think the winner here

1809
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 5: is going to be the fan. The fan is going

1810
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 5: to get another play that's awesome that they haven't had

1811
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 5: in the game really in about a decade.

1812
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: I think we were talking about Hester and Cribs and

1813
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: Dante Hall, guys that we all remember and they were

1814
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: game wreckers, and it was, oh man, they're kicking off

1815
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 2: to Devin Hester, like this is a must see and

1816
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 2: now you're gonna have a play again where you can

1817
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: have guys that are here just because they're that good

1818
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: at kick returning. Remember that he would dance around back

1819
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: there waiting, Dion, Are you sure you're gonna kick it

1820
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: to me?

1821
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 6: Really?

1822
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 7: Dare you?

1823
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 6: Like?

1824
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 5: That's that's what we need? That back And now it

1825
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 5: seems like we're gonna get it.

1826
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 2: Talking to your colleagues around the league, going and are

1827
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: they having the same kind of experience where everybody's like

1828
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: this is an exciting thing.

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 3: Everybody's into it.

1830
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 8: I haven't really talked to them about that whatever, I like,

1831
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 8: have those conversations, it's been more like, hey, what do

1832
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 8: you like what have you been drilling on it? Like,

1833
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 8: because we haven't been really able to go against each

1834
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 8: other and even now, like you can't be physical in

1835
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 8: the practice, right, So those conversations have been more like

1836
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 8: what are you guys drilling? Like what types of drops?

1837
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 8: Have you been doing? Things like that?

1838
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: So we'll just get like extra time to your point

1839
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: that you can in like training camp then you would

1840
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: have spent on kickoff in years past.

1841
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, definitely, yeah, because you're gonna have to you're

1842
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 8: gonna have to see it at speed, you're gonna have

1843
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 8: to see it with pads on, You're gonna have to

1844
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 8: see it with different body types to figure out what's

1845
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 8: the best way to configure your your your coverage group

1846
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 8: and your return group, like which guys can do what

1847
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 8: the best? So you got to figure it out fast.

1848
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 8: I'm glad we actually have the joint practice with Minnesota.

1849
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 8: That'll be helpful really get it against another team before

1850
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 8: we actually that's week two though, Is that week two?

1851
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 8: We actually have a game before that, but it'll be

1852
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 8: good to get it in a practice setting.

1853
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: Though, when you think about like putting your putting the

1854
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 2: helmet back out, if you alluded to earlier as Bubba

1855
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: the player, what would you have thought about this then?

1856
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 3: How would you have wanted to attack it?

1857
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean no pun intended. Because you talked about

1858
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 8: the help putting helmet on. I put the I put

1859
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 8: literally put on a helmet and me and Bravo were

1860
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 8: doing drops in the indoor because I wanted to see

1861
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 8: how like because when the balls, when the ball's kicked right,

1862
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 8: there's now before like the balls kick, you're flying, you

1863
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 8: can't hear anything, like you're prossly Like now the ball's kicked,

1864
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 8: you're tracking the ball, You're seeing the returner.

1865
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 6: You know you got the location.

1866
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 8: So like I wanted to track it both from a

1867
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 8: return perspective and from a coverage perspective. It's different, it's

1868
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 8: a different viewpoint. But for me, like I I think

1869
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 8: that this play can be really it can be really

1870
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 8: good for both sides. Like I would have liked to

1871
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 8: have covered I like covering from the old school. I

1872
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 8: would have liked doing this as well.

1873
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 6: I really would. Yeah, it's awesome.

1874
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: It's awesome that this is gonna be I like it.

1875
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been in the fortunate to be in

1876
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: the booth obviously for two years, and the opening kickoffs

1877
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: usually like and you know, you would be like and

1878
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 2: we're underway kicks out of the end zone.

1879
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 4: It's like that.

1880
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's gonna be like, there's gonna be a

1881
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: because you can you know, right, you get an opening

1882
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: kickoff take that bad as a tone center. I mean,

1883
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: name did it in Buffalo obviously after the DeMar Hamlin tragedy. Unbelievable.

1884
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

1885
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 6: It is, it is. Yeah, glad you're watching over it.

1886
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 6: But yes, good scene.

1887
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Speaker 3: Yes we are.

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01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, good seeing you guys too.

1889
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Speaker 5: Are the great other than Trump. With a special teams

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Speaker 5: coach of your Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 9: Coming up after the break, our recently extended head coach

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Speaker 9: Kevin Stefanski talks about his new contract and the Browns

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01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 9: off season program. All this and more when this Best

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Speaker 9: of Coaches edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily Returns, brought to

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Speaker 9: you by bally Bet, a sports betting partner of your

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Speaker 9: Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio, continues on eight to

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Speaker 9: fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily Front to You by Bowley bed Now

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Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight esp and Cleveland.

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Speaker 9: We're rolling through this special Best of Coaches edition of

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Speaker 9: Cleveland Brown's Daily. Last Up Today, Head coach Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 9: joined the show the day he and general manager Andrew

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Speaker 9: Berry signed their new contract extensions. He talks about that

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Speaker 9: and how the Browns have improved this off season.

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Speaker 5: This is a big day, man. We got our head

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Speaker 5: coach Kevin Spansky joining us here. Big day for him

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01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 5: as well, very big day the contract extension for you

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Speaker 5: and AaB locked and loaded signed. You think about your

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01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 5: path and you think about being an assistant all the

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Speaker 5: years you were, and then you say, all right, I

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Speaker 5: really want to be a head coach.

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Speaker 4: That's the goal.

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Speaker 5: But then part of it is and is okay, now

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Speaker 5: I want to go to a place and make it

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Speaker 5: my home. When you interviewed here and you did it twice,

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01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 5: what was it about this place? Because you could have

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01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 5: done that gig, But what was it about this place

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Speaker 5: that felt like it could be home for you? And

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Speaker 5: quite honestly, it has become home.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's interesting you oftentimes take these jobs and

1922
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 13: jobs in general, and you're thinking about such short term goals.

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Speaker 13: You know, as we all do. You put the blinders on.

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01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 13: You think about what's in front of you.

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Speaker 4: And that has.

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Speaker 13: Served me well and served us well. We kind of

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 13: don't think long term, you know, you think about what's

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 13: in front obviously. You know, we're extremely blessed and fortunate

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Speaker 13: to be able to work here with Andrew and work

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Speaker 13: for d and Jimmy and with j W and Whitney,

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Speaker 13: and this is a great setup. And to your point, Bo,

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Speaker 13: it is home. You know, I am raising three kids here,

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Speaker 13: so it is very much home. But I don't take

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Speaker 13: the long term approach ever. I kind of walk in

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Speaker 13: the building and figure out what needs to be done

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Speaker 13: that day or that month and that type of thing.

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Speaker 13: But I don't want that to also be just miss

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Speaker 13: of how how much I realize how blessed we are

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Speaker 13: being here.

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Speaker 5: But the process of taking this job, was there something

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Speaker 5: that clicked for you that said, yep, that's it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: if you can go back to that time in a minute.

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 4: Do you have a time machine?

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Speaker 6: Where's Doc Brown?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: You know, gosh, things so much changes over the years

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Speaker 13: as well. I knew this when we talked about this job,

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Speaker 13: right when when you talking about, Hey, you going to

1949
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Speaker 13: be a steward for this franchise, I mean, think about that,

1950
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Speaker 13: this the Cleveland Browns franchise and what that means number one,

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Speaker 13: what it means to the NFL community, but what it

1952
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Speaker 13: means to Northeast Ohio, what it means to Brownies backers

1953
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Speaker 13: all over the world, and not just in this country,

1954
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Speaker 13: all over the world. I just think about the the

1955
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Speaker 13: to be entrusted with that job is something that meant

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Speaker 13: so much to me. Just with the history of this place.

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Speaker 13: I make sure our team knows of the history about

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Speaker 13: this place and the players that have come before us,

1959
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Speaker 13: the coaches that have come before us, that have really

1960
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Speaker 13: laid the groundwork.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I.

1962
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Speaker 13: Think about, just the rare opportunity at a storied franchise

1963
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Speaker 13: like this.

1964
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Speaker 2: One thing you've learned, I'm sure in your time in

1965
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Speaker 2: the league is that you need continuity to have sustained success.

1966
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Speaker 2: But you need sustained success to have continuity. It's the

1967
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Speaker 2: old chicken in the egg that has not been something

1968
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Speaker 2: that has really been in the playbook for the Cleveland

1969
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Speaker 2: brown since maybe the late eighties, early nineties when you

1970
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Speaker 2: took this job. I'm sure on some level that was

1971
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: a great challenge for you to sit here today knowing

1972
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Speaker 2: that you and ab have signed those extensions and that

1973
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Speaker 2: for the first time we will have that stability in

1974
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Speaker 2: this organization.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean to you?

1976
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean you said it, Nathan. You have to

1977
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Speaker 13: earn that. You have to go win football games. You

1978
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 13: got to go put a product on the field that

1979
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Speaker 13: you're proud of. From an organizational standpoint, so we in

1980
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 13: no way feel like the work is done, you know,

1981
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Speaker 13: far from it. I'm very, very confident in my partnership

1982
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Speaker 13: with Andrew. He does an outstanding job, supports me in

1983
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Speaker 13: a thousand ways on a daily basis. So we're excited

1984
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Speaker 13: to get back to work. But it's not in no

1985
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 13: ways are we internally externally feeling like we've accomplished anything yet.

1986
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Speaker 4: We got a lot of work to do.

1987
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Speaker 2: You want to win that Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: We do.

1989
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's the goal.

1990
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Speaker 13: And all thirty two do yeah also, and all thirty

1991
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 13: two you've heard me say it. You can talk about

1992
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 13: it till you're blue in the face, and until you

1993
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 13: get it done, you got to work at it. And

1994
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Speaker 13: that's what you know. I'm appreciative of these players that

1995
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Speaker 13: we have here. They know what the goal is. We

1996
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Speaker 13: talk about it and it's okay to put it out

1997
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Speaker 13: there and what you're here for. But that of its

1998
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Speaker 13: in of itself.

1999
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Speaker 8: Is not going to get it done.

2000
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Speaker 4: You have to put in the work.

2001
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the players right there, and I've had an opportunity,

2002
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Speaker 2: I say, I get to talk to them.

2003
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Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate in that regarding my job. But there's

2004
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Speaker 3: a joy to being at.

2005
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Speaker 2: A non mandatory, a voluntary that I have not seen

2006
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Speaker 2: really in my time here, and it started to ramp up.

2007
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Speaker 2: But I feel like this year you have guys like

2008
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Speaker 2: Zadarius for example, ten year vet. If he wants to

2009
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 2: be here, great, if he doesn't, you know you're going

2010
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: to get from Zadarius Smith. He's overjoyed to be here,

2011
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 2: to come put in the work and to be around

2012
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: his teammates. What does that culture feel like for you

2013
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Speaker 2: on the inside? And I know it's always a work

2014
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Speaker 2: in progress and you said it best. If you're staying still,

2015
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Speaker 2: you're not getting better. You want to keep that going.

2016
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Speaker 2: But there feels like there's a real joy out on

2017
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Speaker 2: that football field.

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Speaker 13: There should be and you know, we get to whistle

2019
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Speaker 13: while we work.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

2021
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Speaker 13: You know what we talk about, Nathan is we want

2022
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Speaker 13: the off season program to be safe, competitive, and fun.

2023
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Speaker 13: We do want to have fun. This is voluntary, if

2024
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 13: you know, maybe the fun part is not as necessary

2025
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 13: when it becomes mandatory.

2026
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Speaker 4: But if these guys are.

2027
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Speaker 13: Coming in here on their own volition, we want to

2028
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Speaker 13: and working. We want them to have fun. So we

2029
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Speaker 13: make sure that the atmosphere this time yere is focused

2030
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Speaker 13: on a group that's working their butts off. But we

2031
01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 13: are definitely having fun while we're.

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Speaker 4: In the building.

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Speaker 5: Jamis has fun, Yeah, because it's remarkable excite about the

2034
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Speaker 5: Gulf outing. I mean, he's just he's so shot out

2035
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Speaker 5: of a canon every day. He's just such an infectious personality.

2036
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Speaker 5: How well did you you obviously ever ready knew of him,

2037
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 5: but in terms of like, because you know, Deshaun's getting

2038
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Speaker 5: back health wise, and so now you have this guy

2039
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 5: who's this magnetic leader who's there to help along the

2040
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Speaker 5: way and be so supportive.

2041
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Speaker 13: You know, when you're talking about free agency, you do

2042
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 13: so much work on these guys and the draft, any

2043
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,799
Speaker 13: part of the player acquisition period, you talk to other coaches,

2044
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 13: you talk to former teammates. So I had a pretty

2045
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 13: good sense of what Jamis is all about. Now it's

2046
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 13: one thing to hear it, and it's another thing to

2047
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 13: see when he gets in this building early.

2048
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Speaker 6: It's early.

2049
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Speaker 13: He's in here early, he stays late. I get to

2050
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 13: watch him work. He had to watch him be around

2051
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Speaker 13: his teammates. He brings an infectious energy to every part

2052
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 13: of this building. I mean, you will see him hanging

2053
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 13: out in the equipment room. You're gonna see him hanging

2054
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 13: out in the cafeteria. He's hanging out talking to the

2055
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 13: grounds crew because he's just has that personality where he

2056
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 13: wants to lift people up. So it's fun to be

2057
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 13: a part of that.

2058
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Speaker 2: It most certainly is.

2059
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Speaker 3: It is not dual.

2060
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Speaker 2: He was in the group behind me after our show ended.

2061
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Speaker 2: I got to go play a little golf out there

2062
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: and at one point broke out in song.

2063
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Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds about right. It's like, okay, all.

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