1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Since today's honestly six years since Kobe passed, and you 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: were kind of talking about the hardest story you had 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: the job, and I just remember, like where I was. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was in OKC after shoot around or practice, 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: and I just remember just sitting in front of the 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: TV on the couch, still in a practice scare, like 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to turn it in, but I'm like I 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: haven't been able to move, like watching this news saying 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: there's no way this is real. There's no way this 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: is real. Where were you when that news dropped. 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: On the couch? I was watching like you. It's weird 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: how you picture it so clearly. Right, I'm watching, I'm 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: watching Maryland play at Indiana stick Smith and Marylyn went 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: out to assembly Hall. He played great, they got a 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: big win. I'm watching, this is cool, this is great, man, 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: They're playing high level game. And then like the crawl 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: on the bottom of the screen and then Twitter and 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: like you're putting it together. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: And there is no way, no way, no way, and 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: then no, actually, this is real. 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: I supposed to be off that night, and then I 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: got a call from our news desk and like this 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: is a real thing. That's happened, and they asked, would 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: you come in and do the show this evening, and 25 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: I said, I mean, of course, And then your show 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: becomes something totally different. 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: And it was the same type of thing. 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: Where again, this is different because I wasn't reacting in 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: real time. At least I had at least I had 30 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: the afternoon in the evening to try to gather my 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: thoughts and think about what is it I care I 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: want to say about this. Let me start with father 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: and husband who happened to be on the short list 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: of all time greats and recognizing to your point, how 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: the modern star are processing this right, this is you know, 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: if you're old enough like me, like maybe you look 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: at it through like Jordan's the guy, or maybe it's 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Lebron or Kobe's in that conversation for a lot of people, 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you're talking about one of the all time 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: greats and the fact that he's lost his life along 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: with others and a daughter. I mean, I mean talking 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: about it right now, it's like it's so heartbreaking the 43 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: process right that that happened. And again that's that's where 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's a place people are going 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: to turn and you hope you can offer something, some 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: kind of perspective. 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: That feels human. 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: And I remember that night just that's that's where you 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: start your show and you just try to make it 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: not make sense, but just try to share what you feel. 51 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: But it's just it's wild. 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: I remember everything about where I was sitting in my 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: house and living in Connecticut at the time, and the 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: game I was watching, and then everything changes, right your 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: whole I mean I don't even know, like like how 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: do you how do you play games? Like how is 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: it the fog of that day? Like what do you 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: do after that? Do you remember? 59 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: I remember you'll have a game that day or. 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: Put the next day? 61 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: I think I think we play the next day because 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I remember just not being able to move, Like I 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: just remember being on that couch realizing that like I 64 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: mean I have to eat at some point. Like I 65 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: think we played the next day. 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: I knew we had a game. I want to say 67 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 4: it was do we play Boston? 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: What I was in New Orleans? 69 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in New Orleans and like even then, 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: like we're playing the game and the game is just 71 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 4: like it's like no one, Like I want to I 72 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: want to check. I think it was boss, but like 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: nobody cared about the game. No, Like you do it 74 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: like you like you're doing your fifteen minutes of like 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: on court time when you're not with your phone and 76 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: you're like like you see TMD TWETD, Like there's no 77 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: way there's this. You're doing your truth and they just 78 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: go out to your phone like refreshing Twitter, like it 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 4: just happened, Like, yeah, we're playing the game. Like the 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: NBA going to like suspend like games for the day. 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: It was just such a crazy to do that. I 82 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 4: didn't have to play that night. It was just like, 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: what's your perspective? 84 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Man, haven't been like like because having that kind of 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: access to being like like through the eyes of a laker, right, 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: like having been been that. I mean, what he what 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: he represented to the league was one thing. But it's 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: like Jordan as a bull, Like I mean Jordan played 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: here in the district for Washington, which is you know, 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: I still get a kick out of that, Like I laughed, 91 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: like he was playing in slides with a beer belly, 92 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: still getting forty because he was because he was shortened, 93 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 94 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: But like Kobe, like it's singular, you know what I mean? 95 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: Like for that that had to just be wild because 96 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: you would have had a different idea, a different lens 97 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: on what he represent, wouldn't you. 98 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like just being in LA for those 99 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: two years, like you could just tell like the gravity 100 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: of like what his name was and how much weight 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: that that that it held. 102 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: That's the world, that's the one, And it was. 103 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 4: Just like and like I said, I was, you know, 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: that was a year I got traded out in New 105 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: Orleans and I was just like, I I think I 106 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: forgot who else. I think I was talking to my 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 4: boy Basket. He's the one that told me about it. 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: At first. 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: I was just like I can't believe what what it's 110 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: like in LA right now. I'm just like like I 111 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: already like everywhere it was either one of those things 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: where it was like everyone is shocked and it's like 113 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 4: the city is dead like this like for that day, 114 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: like there like there's no like how like there was 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: gonna be like no heart in that city like that night, 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: because it's just like that's what he meant. And it's 117 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: like being able to see what he meant to those 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 4: people and those fans you already know, just like it's 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: that day I'm sure just absurd. 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: What's wild is I didn't I didn't spend a ton 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: of time interacting with him. 122 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: In my role. 123 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: With as A as A as a true star in 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: the league, because I wasn't like last year I went 125 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: to the finals for for ESPN, and I wasn't doing 126 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: that at that time when they were kind of in 127 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: the midst of it. But I was really lucky because 128 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: I got a chance to cross paths with him after 129 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: he had retired and he was doing that Focus and 130 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: onlike an Emmy, and he was in New York City 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: and there's these things called the Upfronts, which are these 132 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: things that networks do where they're kind of presenting to 133 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: advertisers what the you know, the new shows and things 134 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: are that they're going to do. And I'm at the 135 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: upfronts with him, and we're backstage and I got to 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: sit with him this tiny little room where we started 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: talking about him coaching his daughter, and it was just 138 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: hysterical because here's this guy whose brain is wired like 139 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: he's that kind of competitor. 140 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 3: He's talking about coaching little girls. 141 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: And we came up with the analogy about it's the 142 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: idea of you catch a man of fish, teach feed 143 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: him for a day, teach a man of fish, feed 144 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: him for the rest of his life. I was like, 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: so you got you just got to teach him out 146 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: of fish man, and he's like, I like that, and 147 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: it was like this became so I texted no. I 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: was just send him a picture of somebody with a 149 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: fishing polem, like you catching any fish. And it was 150 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm talking to one of the all time greats. But again, 151 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: it was this human thing. I wasn't asking him about, Hey, 152 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: do you remember that time that you played, you know, 153 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: it was we're talking about his daughter and talking about 154 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: trying to share that IQ with young girls that wanted 155 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: to love the game, and so getting to know him 156 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: in that way. And this is right around the time 157 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: that a year before this happens, and so that day, 158 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: as heavy as it was from a sports perspective, I'm thinking, 159 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Jesus man, all I could think about is teaching these 160 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: girls to fish, right, this guy and one of the 161 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: keep the analogy going, like one of the best fishermen 162 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: there ever were like, and that's what he was sharing 163 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: with them, that passion for the game. I don't know, man, 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking out loud, but that was that was 165 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: heavy then and it remains so you know, that's one 166 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: of those ones that doesn't get diluted over time. 167 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: The Rooman show is brought to you by Airbnb. 168 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: As you know, after eating the basketball season. Every summer, 169 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: Jave and I go on a big trip with our 170 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: wives and we end up meeting up before weekend of it. 171 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Meeting up with Josh is my favorite parportup last summer. 172 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate him. 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