1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Andrew Catalan back with us this week. He has the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: call of the Jaguars of the Texans on CBS Sports, 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, Andrew, it's Jaguars game number 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: four for you this season. A lot of those, actually 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: all of them now on the back half, when the 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Jaguars have been on the rise and and now here 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: they are at the top of the a f C South. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: What's up, JP, Happy New Year. Yes, it is my 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: fourth time with the Jags and they won the previous 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: three all in pretty dramatic fashion Vegas, Baltimore and at Tennessee. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: So here we go again. I mean, you want to 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: tell somebody down there that they don't have to come 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: back in these games. They can get a lead and 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: hold on to them, right, Yeah, no doubt. I mean, look, 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I think that this team going into that Las Vegas 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: game in early November, they were coming off the loss 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: in London, didn't have the buy and you're thinking, all right, 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be in you know, a bit of a 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: bumpy ride to the finish line here. I give them 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for the way they turned around 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: really twice after the start and the loss in London, 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: and then really kind of resetting after the loss in Detroit, 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: which was something nobody really saw coming. So I give 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence and the entire organization a 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: lot of credit. I think that we're really seeing this 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: marriage of Peterson and Lawrence shine in these last six weeks, 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot to look forward to, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: not only this year, but going forward in the future 29 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: as well. Andrew Catalan with us. You know, it's an 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: odd situation because this game matters for the Jaguars this 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: week against the Texans because they're still in play for 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: the wild card. A lot of things have to go 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: right the next couple of weeks, and if they win 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: in Tennessee loses, then a tie next week would get 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the Jaguars in. So they still need the game. But 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: the division comes down to Week eight team, so no 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: matter what, that's what's happening next week. So the head 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: coaches this week or taking different approaches. Um, the Titans 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: are resting some guys that are banged up US, but 40 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going the other way. They're playing and 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: playing this game. And Doug Peterson said there's most such 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: thing as a meaningless game in the NFL. We're going 43 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: out to play and the approaches are just interesting. And 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: this Jags team it's still all new, right, I mean, 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: is that like they've been to seventh straight playoffs and 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: know how to turn it off and on again. Yeah. 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating um, and I think it makes 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: sense what both teams are doing. I have been with 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee the last three weeks. I mean they've been barely 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: able to feel the roster with all the injuries they have, 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: obviously Ryan Tannehill at the top, but Denico Autrey, Jeffrey Simmons, 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton. I mean, the list goes on and on 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: and on, and they are in a position where they 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: cannot afford to lose anybody else. They have to try 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: to get guys as healthy as they'll be to ensure 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: they have a a complete roster for Week eight team. 57 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: So I get what they're doing. My first impression of 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: was that Jacksonville should do the same thing, But after 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: listening to Doug Peterson this week and hearing him talk 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: about a younger team with momentum, I understand it from 61 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: their perspective as well. Now I want to see how 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: this game is called like Trevor Lawrence has been running 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: a lot lately. If I'm the Jaguars, I'm not doing 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: that as much in this game because I really think 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: it's a far fetched reality that they're gonna lose this 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: game or win this game and then still get in 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs as the wild card after a loss Week 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: A team. I think it's all going to come down 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: to Week eighteen and they have to be in the 70 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: best possible position to win that game, which is continuing 71 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: momentum but also staying healthy. It is fascinating the whole 72 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the whole setup going into this. I don't think I've 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: ever heard of one where Week seventeen doesn't matter and 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: only Week A team matters. So this is this is 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: a new one for me and I think for a 76 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: lot of people. Certainly the Jaguars haven't been to the 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: playoffs in five years, but I don't remember. What do 78 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: you remember one like this now? This is definitely strange 79 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: um and you know, no one's really gonna remember the 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: week's seven team game as much as the Week eight 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: team game, which is interesting. But I do think there's 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: things they can build on. I do think that keeping 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: timing and rhythm with wide receivers is something important. Um. 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: But again, I think if Tennessee is just in a 85 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: different position than Jacksonville is in terms of the health 86 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: of their roster, and that's why I think we're seeing 87 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: two different things. I think if Tennessee was healthy and 88 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: Brable felt a little bit better about where they are 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: in terms of their depth, maybe you'd see Derrick Henry 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: play a half or maybe you'd see Jeffrey Simmons play 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: a quarter. But they're just not in a position to 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: do that right now. Andrew Catalan with us. Of course, 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Texans this week. Texans have have 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: been playing hard, at least for Levy Smith. It feels 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: like the last month or so. They finally got to win. 96 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Of course last week in in Nashville, so they're beat up. Also, 97 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: starting running backs out, they got a wide receiver out, 98 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Stanley's out. I mean, it's just what it is. We 99 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: we know what that feels like at the end of 100 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: the season. That's lost and your number one in the 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: draft order with two weeks to go. Hopefully we don't 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: have to feel that again here in Jacksonville for a 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: long time. But what do you make of this? Texans 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: group at least still out there fighting and and in 105 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: games late in this season. Yeah, I've been impressed. I 106 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: mean I was with them last week in Nashville when 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: they beat Tennessee, and then you look at the prior 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: to games. They should have won at Dallas and they 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: should have beat the Chiefs at home. They ended up 110 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: losing it overtime. Lovey Smith has found a way to 111 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: get these guys motivated down the stretch, and I give 112 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: him a lot of credit. Obviously, the record is what 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: it is, but he's had this thing where he's been 114 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: preaching that we can quote unquote win the division by 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: finishing on a winning note. Because right now they are 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: to one and one in the division and they finish 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville and that Indianapolis, And he's telling his guys 118 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: that if we finished four one and one in the division, 119 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna give us some positive momentum going into the 120 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: off season. Whether or not you and I believe that 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, because it seems like the team is 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: rallying around that a lot of their guys are playing 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: on one year contracts, so they're playing for either another 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: deal with Houston or another team. Davis Mills is trying 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: to prove that he can be the starter. Smith is 126 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: trying to prove that he should get another year as 127 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: head coach. So while on the surface it doesn't look 128 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: like they have much to play for, in reality there's 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: these guys are playing for a lot and it's showing up. Uh. 130 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: They really played a nice game against Kansas City and 131 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: could have won that game, and I think that they're 132 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: gonna play really hard again here against Jacksonville. Yeah, combined 133 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: ten points in the two losses to Dallas and Kansas 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: City for this Texas team. Then they go out and 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: beat the Tennessee Titans. Alright, so big picture now, it 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: is funny how fast this can change the perception of 137 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: teams in a division. So in October you would have said, up, okay, 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: well the quarterbacks young, they're not winning games. They're they're 139 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: losing these one score games. Now a sudden fast forward 140 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: a month and a half later, Jags are in first place. 141 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: The Colts have their own issues, obviously with what's going 142 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: on with the head coaching situation, quarterback roster Houston. You'll 143 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: see firsthand this week what's going on there. And then 144 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: tend Tennessee doesn't have a GM right now and the 145 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: running backs nine years old. How long can that last? 146 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are poised at least right now from this, 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: I get I'm biased, I'm in the building, I get it. 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: But they could control this thing for a little while 149 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: here if they get their act together and get the 150 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: roster right and figure some things out and move ahead, 151 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean there's a lot of questions and 152 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: those other three buildings in the division, especially in Tennessee 153 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: with the quarterback, because Ryan Tannehill is set to make 154 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: a lot of money next year, I don't know how 155 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna shape out. As you point out, they don't 156 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: have a general manager right now. I really like the 157 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: core of this Jacksonville team, and I really, I really 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: like Doug Peterson. I had never done one of his 159 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: games when he was in Philadelphia. I had never met 160 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: him until the Vegas game this year. I'm really impressed 161 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: by him, and I think he is a really uh 162 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: spectacular guy to be for. For Trevor, I mean, you've 163 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: heard Trevor say that he can relate Dougs calmness, the 164 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: way he doesn't get too high or too low. I 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: really like this marriage between the two and I know 166 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I've said that already, but I just I really I 167 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: think this is this is going in the right direction. 168 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Between free agency and the draft, they can get a 169 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: little bitter better here and there, and I think this 170 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: is a team that that should be competing for playoffs 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: spots for several years to come based on the way 172 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: it's all coming together this year. Andrew, What's what's a 173 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: highlight of a production meeting with Doug this year? Anything 174 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: that you remember that just stands out, maybe hey, I 175 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: never really thought of that, or or you know, first 176 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: time out with him, you you mentioned some of those things. 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: But is there any story, any anecdote that stands out. 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you to His honesty is what stands out. 179 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: He's very straightforward. He's not gonna try to throw one 180 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: past you. He'll answer every question you have. He's very 181 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: candid with us, and that's appreciated. And I do remember 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: a couple of times this year. You know when a 183 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: coach kind of beams or smiles or gets going on 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: a couple of different guys. If it stands out, he 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: did that with Tyler Shatley on the Walton Walter Payton 186 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Man of the Year nomination. He's done that with Luke 187 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: Fortner very high on the Jacksonville Center. So obviously you're 188 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna get good stuff on Trevor and Christian Kirk and 189 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: tray Von Walker, but it's the other guys that when 190 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: you ask him about that, he lights up. Even Daniel Thomas. 191 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: I remember him giving a really good answer on him 192 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: earlier this year. That's what I like to see when 193 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: the when the coach uh makes a connection with maybe 194 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: not you know, the star are on the team. Maybe 195 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: it's the backup safety, maybe it's the starting left guard. 196 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: Those types of things stand out to me, and I 197 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: do remember him being very complimentary of those three individuals 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: in particular. Great stuff as always, Andrew Um, You're undefeated 199 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: as an announcer for the Jaguars this year. Let's keep 200 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: it rolling. Keep it rolling, JP, Thanks so much, man. 201 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: Happy New Year.