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Speaker 2: The World's a Vegetal podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Evan is down at the sea boat with his recording

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Speaker 2: hat on. He's got his little press ticket. A lot

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Speaker 2: of goings on down there in the sash of his fedora.

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Speaker 2: Like he's crying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he always cries.

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Speaker 2: At the National sweats side of his eyes. He sweats

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Speaker 2: out of his eyes. He's at the medical turn a

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Speaker 2: game where two very little gas there. Josh has got

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Speaker 2: a great resume. He's just sitting.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he has a great He has a

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Speaker 4: great resume with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a pretty good resume. He's a great

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Speaker 2: quarterback of all time. But he didn't have it.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have anything to do with developing Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: He became the offensive coordinator when Tom Brady had already

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Speaker 4: won three titles, and.

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Speaker 3: Then he had nothing to do with development. I don't

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Speaker 3: was waiting tom Brady. It's two thousand and four, and

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Speaker 3: that was it. That was who he was. The rest

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Speaker 4: Nothing changed in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 3: Nothing changed in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 4: definitively electronically whether or not Josh Allen got the food.

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Speaker 2: Mike brought a sandwich yet, Yeah, so good for Mike.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jills Stadium. We got a big off season Thursday

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Speaker 2: show coming up. We got Paul, we got Duce, we

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Speaker 6: Honor Tamara finally having a seat on the show because

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Speaker 6: Evan isn't here.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? During the season, he misses

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Speaker 2: the first twenty minutes because he's in the locker room.

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Speaker 6: So am I I.

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Speaker 2: Guess So okay, I guess you're with him? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Enough studio, the studio gets updated. There's couches in here,

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Speaker 2: But you could sit on an arm of a chair. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: stand behind us like Evan Dale in the corner. Again.

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Speaker 4: I'd give you my chair. I love this show.

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Speaker 7: I'm not I had to sit on an automan recently.

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Speaker 7: The lightning was terrible, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Get me the r way.

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Speaker 2: Look at miss tan over here back from Guatemala. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I am at a wedding. Yep, how is that amazing?

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Speaker 7: I don't know if we have any Guatemalan listeners.

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Speaker 2: But what you're not disgruntled because you had to go

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Speaker 8: No, because I don't think I was there for two weeks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we did the first week in Antigua, Guatemala.

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Speaker 2: And you didn't spend one thousand dollars? Did you eat bugs?

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Speaker 8: I ate rice and beans amazing, like these amazing hat

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Speaker 8: We're up in the volcanoes and Antigua and it was

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Speaker 8: I saw volcano erupped. And then after the wedding we

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I had a wedding down there. Shut out

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Speaker 8: We were leavings, we were leaving the bars late at night,

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Speaker 2: Nice And how was the wedding itself?

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Speaker 3: What did you do for your wedding? I was like,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't anything like this, like the volcanoes erupting while

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Speaker 2: At the VFW. Nice.

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Speaker 4: I yelled at Fred for watching NFL playoff games during

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Speaker 2: So everybody behaved like, you know, the the speech is okay.

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Speaker 8: It's actually funny because I was a bridesmaid in this wedding,

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Speaker 7: People enlist in my help.

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Speaker 8: So I actually was sitting there at our table, the

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Speaker 8: Oh wow, gotta get ordained. But yeah, it was funny

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Speaker 8: For those of the who don't know me, my name

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Speaker 8: If you had told me I would be here today,

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Speaker 8: They're gonna have like a real proper speech as they

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Speaker 7: I actually didn't write her speech. She gave it herself.

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Speaker 6: She went Rogue the first name I could think of, because.

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Speaker 3: Is it tough when she gets like four page she

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Speaker 7: Like, oh boy, no, you know what kills me is

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Speaker 2: I like it when it's like the best friend or

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Speaker 8: Come on yeah, Or when the groomsman like makes it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about past hookups.

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I just don't like weddings. They're a

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Speaker 4: But I would agree generally with Fred that I think

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Speaker 4: You got, you just got your kids, get your kids

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Speaker 2: Seems to be some pretty good depth down there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, early on, that's right, that's right. Bill's

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Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. I think, you know, I would take

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Speaker 3: I mean that's what's hard. You talk about what you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot of like high high end

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Speaker 2: you know, there's some later round guys that might be

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the kid from BC's a monster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah was he six seven fifty or something like that,

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Speaker 3: Like one hundred and fifty of us just in his

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Speaker 4: Probably we played against him actually in high school. Will

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Speaker 4: That's Steve Trapilo's kid.

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Speaker 4: If you know BC. Yeah, he's a good player. Ozzie Trapillo,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's the kind of.

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Speaker 4: But he had a better day, I guess from what

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Speaker 4: That seems to be getting all the attention is the guard,

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, Deontay God, I'm blanking on his last name.

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Speaker 3: It's just ken Christian Barmore. I want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I wonder going to, you know, on Barmore if the

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Speaker 3: And I was shown tomorrow my my nerd depth chart,

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Speaker 3: like I like, I kind of have him in like Gray.

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Speaker 4: Do feign interest when Mike shows you his dorky chart.

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Speaker 6: He printed one out just for me, and so now

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Speaker 6: I have one at my desk.

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Speaker 4: So you actually are interested for reference.

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Speaker 2: So I'm the only one that's interested because you know,

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Speaker 2: I've said it before. I'm intrigued by this Mason Graham

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Speaker 4: I think him and Carter, I mean, Carter would be

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Speaker 3: Sorry, he's gone, Paul, get over it, Abdul, Carter's going

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Speaker 6: You guys want to go defense with first pick.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's like this, Mason Graham seems to be

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out who the best player is

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Speaker 2: I could get am and then pick later on the

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Speaker 6: Are you are you leaning heavier towards best player available

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Speaker 2: Best player available unless it's a quarterback or.

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Speaker 4: Unless it's a position. Why I always push back it,

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Speaker 4: you know, like, you know, the teams are get in

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Speaker 2: Unless it's Travis Hunter, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: So Travis Hunter is an exception.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback, I would take Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean also Daniel Jeremiah. He has Will

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Speaker 2: Number four I can't be. I think he can play tackle, right,

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Speaker 2: That's that's my yeah, right, we cannot accept that whoever

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some risk there, but there also is

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you reach or if you miss on McMillan,

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Speaker 3: I know it's not what you need, but at least

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Speaker 3: it's not nik Kill Harry Worth. The guy just can't

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Speaker 2: Do with them. If you pick McMillan and he's nik Kil.

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Speaker 4: Harry, then there's something we'll be having a coaching search again.

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Speaker 2: Or at least a person else there.

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Speaker 3: Right, But Mason Graham's appealing to me. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: about Barmore, I think it makes a lot of sense

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Speaker 3: because that's what they need. They lost a lot of

444
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Speaker 3: games up front. Even if he's a third defensive tackle

445
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Speaker 3: and rotational and he's on passing downs like he could

446
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Speaker 3: be a sure thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just liked the idea of just this dominant

448
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Speaker 2: interior line that is constantly pushing the pocket and getting

449
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Speaker 2: the quarterback off schedule.

450
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Speaker 4: And if Godchaw stays, he's not going to be here

451
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Speaker 4: much longer, you know, another year, maybe two tops. You know,

452
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Speaker 4: Vrabel might identify him as one of those veteran guys

453
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Speaker 4: he wants to keep. You know, I don't know if

454
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Speaker 4: he has any kind of past relationship with him, but

455
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Speaker 4: he's a guy that he could be here, and I

456
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Speaker 4: think it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, do you think it's the same for Dietrich Wise.

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Speaker 4: I think he's he's probably less than fifty fifth because

459
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Speaker 4: he's actually a free agent. Yeah, so I think Jonathan

460
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Speaker 4: Jones ditrich Wise, I could see them both moving on.

461
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Speaker 2: And then we had some news some coaching people leaving,

462
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Speaker 2: Brian Belichick and Tellegrino leaving, so cornerback in safety. And

463
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Speaker 2: then they hired or reportedly hired uh the guy from

464
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Speaker 2: Uh where did he come from?

465
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Speaker 4: Buffalo?

466
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Speaker 2: Buffalo?

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Speaker 3: Right, it's like a nickelback coach.

468
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Speaker 4: Nickelback coach, but it's not getting too specialized.

469
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Speaker 3: And also what an assistant head coach? I got his

470
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Speaker 3: name right here. Sorry, Kevin Richardson was not the one

471
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Speaker 3: or Bookers.

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Speaker 2: And if people are wondering, you know, why aren't they

473
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Speaker 2: official announcing these things. I think the plan is they

474
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Speaker 2: announced the coordinators together, and I think the plan is

475
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Speaker 2: for all these assistant coaches to do one big announcement

476
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Speaker 2: once they have the staff, rather than a whole bunch

477
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Speaker 2: of announcements every day.

478
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Speaker 3: And still no receiver coach or you know, someone who

479
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Speaker 3: could possibly be the receiver coach.

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Speaker 2: And that's interesting. We haven't heard anything about Troy Brown.

481
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Speaker 2: I know he wasn't rest.

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Speaker 6: Like last year. We didn't really hear about him either.

483
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Speaker 6: He's kind of like a he's still here, but like.

484
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Speaker 3: His role wasn't say any of those guys like, I

485
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Speaker 3: don't know any of them really, you know really but no, no,

486
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they have been wide receivers coaches

487
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Speaker 3: in the past.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, is there any chance that any of these

489
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Speaker 4: offense assistants could be working with wide receiver I don't

490
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Speaker 4: know any of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe maybe that's one of the things that

492
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Speaker 2: they want to do, is like get all the titles

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Speaker 2: squared away.

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Speaker 4: It definitely seems the guys that they they I don't

495
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Speaker 4: really the guys they hired on defense we're all rabel ties.

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Speaker 4: The offensive guys, I don't really know a whole lot about,

497
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Speaker 4: you know, so I can't really like sort of exactly.

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Speaker 3: I don't really see it. I mean, you know, Ashton

499
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Speaker 3: Grant and Riley Larkin both seem like they're going to be,

500
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Speaker 3: you know, quarterback guys. Moron and Hoteling are offensive line guys.

501
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Speaker 3: Thomas Brown has kind of been reported as a tight

502
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Speaker 3: end pass game guy, unless maybe he's a wide I mean,

503
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Speaker 3: maybe he could do it. And then Tony dus is

504
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Speaker 3: pretty clearly a running back coach. So those all of

505
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Speaker 3: those ones seem like they're yeah, you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's still a hole and we'll see. It's

507
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Speaker 3: i mean, really obviously a really interesting position that we're

508
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Speaker 3: all kind of interested in.

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Speaker 2: When do you think like by a certain time you

510
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Speaker 2: would hope that they'd have these things. I mean, in

511
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Speaker 2: the past, we wouldn't find out titles for assistant coaches

512
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Speaker 2: until August, by the combine. By the combine.

513
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Speaker 8: When did we have that little new coach mixer last

514
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Speaker 8: year and everyone was in It.

515
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Speaker 4: Was in February vacation. Because I was not here for it.

516
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Speaker 4: I was away.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm picking that, but maybe, and you know.

518
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Speaker 4: There's also a possibility that there's still a guy that's coaching,

519
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Speaker 4: you know, you know, like the Saints head coach job

520
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Speaker 4: hasn't been filled yet a lot of people think Kellen

521
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Speaker 4: Moore might get it, but they have to wait, so

522
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Speaker 4: he's still obviously working. Yeah, and you mentioned Pellegrino and

523
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Speaker 4: Brian Belichick just this morning. I think on Twitter, DeMarcus

524
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Speaker 4: Covington is going to Green Bay as the defensive line coach.

525
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Speaker 4: So there's another I mean, we all knew that these

526
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Speaker 4: guys weren't going to be back.

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Speaker 3: I think Bay, I think it's really good for him,

528
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Speaker 3: I mean everybody. I think the pression I got last

529
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Speaker 3: year was that, you know, he might have been a

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Speaker 3: little bit unprepared to be the full DC, but that

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Speaker 3: he was an excellent defensive line coach.

532
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Speaker 2: Theme of last year.

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Speaker 3: But it's funny how it's funny how it were though,

534
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Speaker 3: because I was prepared two years ago Jerry Montgomery was

535
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Speaker 3: the Packers defensive line coach and then he came here

536
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: and was now DeMarcus coming is going back there. So

537
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Speaker 3: it's always just always you know, what do you call it?

538
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: What's that game?

539
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Speaker 7: With the chairs G.

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Speaker 4: It is funny too, like around the league, how that happens.

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Speaker 4: And you know I saw that, did Salah go back

542
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Speaker 4: to San Francisco? Yes, d C right, And then they

543
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Speaker 4: had Nick Sorranson last year who replaced Steve Wilkes. Steve

544
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Speaker 4: Wilkes got the Jets DC job. I think.

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Speaker 2: So it's like.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's not happy with the guy they had, and then

547
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Speaker 4: everybody is excited to get the guy that.

548
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Speaker 2: You didn't want.

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Speaker 3: And that's just nobody perfect. And that's why it's so

550
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Speaker 3: easy for like your shows to just you know, every

551
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Speaker 3: but he's got baggage. At this point, they're either completely

552
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Speaker 3: unproven or they got bags.

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Speaker 4: Mike's got some beef with the with my shows.

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Speaker 3: I just doesn't, Well, who are the two guys that

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Speaker 3: they would have liked better than Josh McDaniels, guys, tants,

556
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Speaker 3: guys right from the.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota and so rams I've been pretty open. I I

558
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Speaker 4: wanted someone off the McVeigh tree. I'm willing to say

559
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Speaker 4: that that's Thomas Brown until I find out that he

560
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Speaker 4: can't coach.

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Speaker 6: Don't we just get Josh a stylist that.

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Speaker 2: Get him and get him?

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Speaker 8: He looks great also like.

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Speaker 2: The fashion hair color, like a lot of product jel.

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Speaker 8: Like on the top, Lululemon, joggers helping, and maybe a

566
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Speaker 8: medium size shirt but they're really a large.

567
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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: They're called mediums.

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Speaker 7: It put the order and I'll go today.

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Speaker 2: I show up in a T shirt and a big

571
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Speaker 2: head would be like, you couldn't get a shirt to fit?

572
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Speaker 4: Trust introduce her. Matt has informed us that we have

573
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Speaker 4: some new listeners that aren't necessarily up to date with

574
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Speaker 4: our lingo. Okay, so you might be hearing tight pants

575
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Speaker 4: guy and thinking what are they talking about? It's not

576
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Speaker 4: literally a tight like a guy who wears tight it

577
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Speaker 4: is it's a mindset of minds of offense. It's a

578
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 4: new wave of offense.

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Speaker 7: Because are directly correlated to your ability to coach.

580
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Speaker 4: So I just want people that might be new to

581
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Speaker 4: the show to not think that I'm being superficial and

582
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Speaker 4: wanting a change to the offense because I don't like

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Speaker 4: the way looks, but.

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Speaker 11: Because that has nothing to do but came from guys

585
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Speaker 11: my coaches, buff But it came from guys like you

586
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Speaker 11: know McVeigh in with the Rams, who like started bringing

587
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Speaker 11: in this new wave offense and all these guys were

588
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Speaker 11: young guys who seem to wear type pants like these

589
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Speaker 11: sport pants, like the stretchy sport pants, and their staff

590
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Speaker 11: would all wear it as well.

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Speaker 2: And so you see all these guys, you know, kind

592
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Speaker 2: of you know, well built guys in shape, you know,

593
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Speaker 2: not your typical coaches that we've seen in the past.

594
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: These are like the new age guys, and so type

595
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Speaker 2: pants came from that.

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Speaker 4: But to me, it's symbolic of a style like if

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Speaker 4: Alex van Pelt ran the Sean McVay system, I'd have

598
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Speaker 4: been perfectly fine with Alex van Pelt, right, and he

599
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Speaker 4: is not.

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Speaker 3: A not a tight pants guy, So just get real.

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Speaker 3: Back to my fella grim Mass thing. It was just,

602
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Speaker 3: you know, they're saying that, and all I'm seeing is

603
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Speaker 3: the other side of the street. I'm like, oh, so

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks coach who got fourteen good games out of

605
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold, that that's the guy, that's the answer, that's

606
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Speaker 3: what you would feel great about. You'd feel better about him,

607
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: which is just the unknown, I get it. But it's

608
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Speaker 3: also the like anger, you you want the box it's got,

609
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Speaker 3: you got a burden a hand, or you got one

610
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Speaker 3: like I don't know what that one is. Like, you know,

611
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Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels, you kind of know what it is. I

612
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Speaker 3: get it, yep. But it's also that intrigue of like, well,

613
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Speaker 3: maybe he's awesome, but at the end of the day,

614
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: the guy just coached Sam Donald for like, fort got

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Speaker 3: a good fourteen good games out of him, and then

616
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Speaker 3: he kind of regressed to the mean and looked like

617
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Speaker 3: Sam Donald the other point, which which I just I

618
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Speaker 3: don't know if I'm I don't know if I'm angry enough.

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Speaker 3: You have to Paul to bake this angry.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm just letting it. But I'm gonna start.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with you. I'm gonna start with a

622
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Speaker 3: with a not tip to you. You know, went a

623
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Speaker 3: little bit back into Josh at the Rams, and I'm like,

624
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: that was pretty bad. I mean, you know, and and

625
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: and Bradford was pretty good the year before. But the

626
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Speaker 3: other thing is is that the head coach of that

627
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Speaker 3: terrible team is also now the beloved coordinator of the

628
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Speaker 3: NFL right now. So I just thought I went back

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Speaker 3: to Spagnolo, So I went back to I don't want

630
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Speaker 3: to failed head coach coming back, So you know, like

631
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: it goes back to what we just said, like everybody's

632
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: got baggage. If you've better, either you've got baggage and

633
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 3: you failed somewhere or nobody knows anything about you and

634
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: you got to pick. And my final point is just

635
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Speaker 3: that I think they made the best decision, the safest decision.

636
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Speaker 3: If I was gonna bet on a head coach and

637
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Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator in this cycle, this is the safest

638
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Speaker 3: move I've met. Is it risky?

639
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Speaker 2: Not?

640
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Speaker 3: Not as risky as I would say, So maybe maybe

641
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Speaker 3: those risky moves would have.

642
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Paid off more Brian Schottenheimer. According to Jerry Jones, did

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Speaker 2: you hear that?

644
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Speaker 4: But that's basically the argument is would you do you

645
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: want to go safe or do you want to go

646
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Speaker 4: for the home run? And a lot of people are

647
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Speaker 4: more comfortable going safe.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

649
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Speaker 6: Also for the home run Josh.

650
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Speaker 2: Why can't Josh be a home run?

651
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Speaker 3: Spags is a home run for the Chiefs. Is the

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Speaker 3: defensive cordator.

653
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Speaker 4: But Spags has been dominant as defensive coordinator in multiple places.

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Speaker 3: Fair, but Josh is now getting a chance at an

655
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Speaker 3: actual different place. Now, I feel like, you know, I mean,

656
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Speaker 3: I know, well, the only.

657
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Speaker 2: Other place that Josh was offensive coordinator was Saint Louis.

658
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also ran the offense at other places.

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Speaker 2: But right, you could say that, I could Yeah, you

660
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Speaker 2: could say that.

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Speaker 3: But you mentioned the production that DeVante Adam since Josh

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Speaker 3: Jacobs had them in that year, right, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know they weren't great, but those guys had epic years.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know those two you're and I know

665
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Speaker 3: that that talent doesn't back.

666
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Speaker 4: After it, but I can't get along with them.

667
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing, Paul, if maybe you weren't born

668
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Speaker 2: to be a head coach and you're all of a

669
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Speaker 2: sudden a head coach, it has to take away from

670
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Speaker 2: your ability to definitely And if.

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Speaker 4: People are listening and they heard me yesterday on my show,

672
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Speaker 4: clearly you know that I'm playing both sides of all

673
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Speaker 4: because yesterday I was Mike with Felagor and Max and

674
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Speaker 4: I played the mic.

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Speaker 2: No, this is really good. You guys don't understand.

676
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: Ultimately, I'm just trying to get out of Mike's skin

677
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: here on our show.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

679
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Speaker 4: It's good because that's what I do.

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Speaker 3: Both he was walking out Nestsary, I'm like, I'm like,

681
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Speaker 3: I love Paul on Feller. It's a whole new Paul.

682
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: It's like he's calm. He's like, you guys are crazy.

683
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Speaker 2: I might call that corporate poem. Corporate Paul. Yeah, I

684
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: do stay out of trouble, Paul.

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Speaker 6: I do agree with you, friend. I don't think everyone's

686
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 6: born to be a head coach. Like I know, like

687
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Speaker 6: there is you start this, isn't you go to DC

688
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Speaker 6: then you want to be a head coach. But I

689
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: feel like some people are kind of just meant to

690
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Speaker 6: be coordinators. Couldn't Like maybe Robert Salah, maybe he's meant

691
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: to be a coordinator. I don't know, but like could be.

692
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Speaker 6: And so I feel like it shouldn't be a knock

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Speaker 6: that he failed at being a head coach, because maybe

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Speaker 6: he's just a really good question.

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Speaker 2: I always bring up the example of Dick Lebou with

696
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Speaker 2: the Steelers. I mean, people asked him, why, you know,

697
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Speaker 2: don't you want to be a head coach? He's like, no,

698
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a coordinator. That's what I do. And he

699
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Speaker 2: was a damn good one. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of nice too that if they are successful,

701
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Speaker 8: Josh isn't just going to run away at the next

702
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Speaker 8: head coaching job, you know, like it's I would just

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Speaker 8: love to see finally some continuity here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the OC position, if he could do what Spags

705
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: has done in cac and really like everyone's like, geez,

706
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, that's that's what I keep going

707
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Speaker 3: back to. I just call it a huge opportunity for

708
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Speaker 3: Josh to you know, go into Yes, he's back in

709
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: New England, but it seems like it's going to be

710
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: a little different this time. And I also just wonder

711
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Speaker 3: as he was sitting there in the off season like

712
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Speaker 3: last year, did he ever think, like, I'm get a

713
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: chance to cook Was that in the back of his

714
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: mind ever, like maybe just a line up and I'll

715
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Speaker 3: get it. I'll get a chance to coach this kid.

716
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe he was kind of cooking things

717
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: up already in his mind of you know, while he

718
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Speaker 3: was making off season trips. I mean, maybe that's a

719
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Speaker 3: little The.

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Speaker 2: Thing about it is, whether it's Drake may or Jayden

721
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Speaker 2: Daniels or any of these guys, there's a lot of

722
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks out there that can run and pass that you

723
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: have to use both of those talents in order to.

724
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Speaker 6: Feel like that's the way the NFL is trending. Right,

725
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Speaker 6: all the quarterbacks that are coming into the draft, I

726
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 6: mean even look at your door, like, they're all like

727
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 6: that now, right, there's not this Tom Brady pocket pass situation.

728
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 6: They're more mobile and they're more more dual.

729
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Right, you better be ready for that. If you're going

730
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: to be an offensive coordinator.

731
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Speaker 3: How do you make killers? That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 3: How do you make somebody?

733
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Speaker 2: I don't think and you're just.

734
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Speaker 3: Born with it?

735
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: I think before.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't teach that.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes a killer in college. I don't know. I'm just asking.

738
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Speaker 3: I don't know was he was?

739
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Speaker 4: He?

740
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Speaker 3: Was he that kind of guy in big games?

741
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Speaker 2: That because that was Brady Cora, he didn't any The

742
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: question is less how do you make killers? Is more

743
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: how do you identify the killers? Well? What are the

744
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: traits before you draft them that you can look at

745
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: and say, this guy has it in him?

746
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it the Rose Bowl with Brady at Michigan that yeh,

747
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: a really good game.

748
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Speaker 4: Goes the Orange Bowl? But yeah, he played. He had

749
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Speaker 4: a good come from behind game. But the thing about

750
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Speaker 4: Brady that was impossible to know is why he kept

751
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Speaker 4: having to split time and.

752
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Because Lloyd Carr was fixated on Drew Henson. No, I know, Yeah,

753
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: that's why.

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Speaker 4: Do you think if he had Tom Brady, like knowing

755
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Speaker 4: what he did, that he would have been fixated on

756
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Speaker 4: Drew Henson?

757
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Speaker 2: But he didn't give Tom Brady a chance? No, I know.

758
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Speaker 2: But do you think if he knew that Tom Brady

759
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Speaker 2: was as good as he was, he would have He

760
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 2: knew that he was better than Drew Henson, but he was.

761
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: He brought this kid in and he had.

762
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Speaker 4: Given Lloyd Carr way more credit than I am. I

763
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: think he was incompetent, didn't know what he had.

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00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: Well maybe, but I mean I think that's.

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Speaker 4: Like something you don't learn until later. Like why did

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00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: he lose five games as a starter? That's a lot

767
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Speaker 4: games from Michigan to loose.

768
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe what it was was that he had

769
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback who physically didn't have the same measurables as

770
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Speaker 3: Drew Hanson, but was a killer. And he didn't really

771
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Speaker 3: realize this ventually a killer. I can't get past the

772
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of lack of physical stature or you know,

773
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Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it coming out.

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Speaker 1: What was it?

775
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Too slow? The whole was greater than the some of

776
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Speaker 3: the parts with d I mean, it's hard to identify.

777
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Speaker 2: But like that.

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Speaker 4: I remember when he was coming out, I was like,

779
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: you know, why did he lose five games as a starter. Well,

780
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 4: come to find out, he probably wasn't the reason they

781
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: lost five games. It was because they kept dicking around

782
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: with it and putting Drew Henson in and that was

783
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: probably hurting.

784
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Speaker 3: The team behind him. It might have, you know, but.

785
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Speaker 4: Again, those are things that you don't necessarily understand if

786
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: you're not invested in the team. I'm sure like people

787
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: that were following Michigan football closely knew, Hey, this guy

788
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: is better than Henson? Why does he keep taking him out?

789
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Speaker 2: Good stuff? Everyone's got an opinion, especially our listeners. Travis

790
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Speaker 2: in West Virginia has one about the newsletter. He says,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the email of the week should be

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Speaker 2: a five hundred word essay, but it typically is. It

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Speaker 2: should be concise and pithy. Well, I'm the one that

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00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: picks those usually, So my fault, your fault because I

795
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Speaker 2: picked the ones that. Why don't you argue? No, I

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Speaker 2: usually pick ones that people put thought into, but I could,

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Speaker 2: I could, you know, pick ones that are more concise

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Speaker 2: and pithy, pithy. The concise and pithy ones generally get

799
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Speaker 2: read on the air too, but that's okay. They could

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Speaker 3: Did you pick the one? Fred? Really nice story about Paul,

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00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 3: like the guy that was long one Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: had been broken on the side of the road for

805
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Speaker 2: a couple of hours, and you guys offered no sympathy whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: We were entertaining him during.

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Speaker 2: I should have been like, you know, can I call

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Speaker 2: Triple A for you?

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Speaker 7: Imagine?

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Speaker 2: No, that's kind of He's right. We kind of glossed

812
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Speaker 2: over that. It's like, oh, okay, you're stuck. What else

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Speaker 2: you know? Really?

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Speaker 6: for these as well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, get that Kristen, get that report going on?

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Speaker 3: Yeah she's listening.

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Speaker 2: is the email address. Let's hit up the phone see

841
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: what people are saying. I'm sure there's topics we haven't

842
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: touched on yet that you want to talk about, and

843
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: if you do, now's the time to bring them up.

844
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: Cole's in Minnesota. What's up? Cold? Are you cold in Minnesota?

845
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Good morning, all right, I.

846
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Speaker 10: Just wanted to pick your brand, get your opinion on

847
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 10: a little bit of the graft. I was curious something

848
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 10: that this organization or this new regime here could do

849
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 10: that could be a complete blunder in obviously have so

850
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 10: many needs. It's hard to imagine thinking it up, but

851
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 10: I know it's possible, like if able to go out

852
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 10: and just kindily invest in young talent on the defense,

853
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 10: would you guys.

854
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 9: See that at the end of the draft made.

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00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 12: Up by the organization. And then one other.

856
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 10: Question I did was about Kendrick Bourne. I don't really

857
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 10: see it. I guess I ken't. You know, I've been

858
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 10: watching this into scrim Mac and I guess I don't

859
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 10: get it, Like you've been benched twice by two different

860
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 10: coaches on our teams. Always seems to be in a

861
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 10: long headspace, and I don't One might pointed it out

862
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 10: a couple of weeks back about how you know he's

863
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 10: one of those oh my bad, my bad, you know

864
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 10: those kind of guys. But I'm curious, like, when are

865
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 10: we gonna stop, you know, defending this guys? Is it

866
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 10: just because of the as far as the talent goes,

867
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 10: he's really the only Athletics a good guy we have.

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Speaker 13: And I'll leave that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Cole well smarter.

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Speaker 3: You had a thing with what was it, Chad Graft,

871
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: I think speculating.

872
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a report in The Athletic predicting that

873
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 6: Kendrick Bourne would be released this off season, and I

874
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 6: was talking to Douce about I was like, do you

875
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 6: think that that's possible? And I know he didn't perform

876
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: that well coming off of his a CL, Like he

877
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 6: had to get what one good game coming off of

878
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: the a CL. So I get it if you want

879
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 6: to move on from him and pursue maybe just focusing

880
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 6: on Kashan Booty and to Mario Douglas And I'm blanking

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Speaker 6: on someone else's name right now. Oh Pop not pop

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Speaker 6: uh Poke Polk again, if you just want to focus

883
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 6: on those three and maybe draft another one. But I

884
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 6: just don't see you moving on.

885
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: I think everyone's on the table. I really do, especially.

886
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 6: Because he's worked with Josh before. I'm like, I feel

887
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 6: like joshould want.

888
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: To keep him.

889
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Well maybe, but I think everyone's on the table to

890
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: be a cut or to stay, depending on what they

891
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: do in the draft and free agency. They need to

892
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: upgrade that room. They need better wide receivers and they

893
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: need as many as they can get. The question is

894
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 2: how many can they get? And it'll be a numbers game.

895
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, mat me know.

896
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: After free agency, Yeah, I hope there's a lot of

897
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 3: competition and you know, stuff to push all those guys

898
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 3: and I mean they'll be like last year. You know,

899
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: I think last year were sitting at the same point

900
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: being like they got all these guys. Bring in more

901
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: and let competition figure it out and hope that you

902
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 3: actually get guys that can really push the envelope on point.

903
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: Know what they're doing always and in the big moments

904
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Speaker 3: they come through with the cutch plays.

905
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Speaker 6: I do want you to bring in more, but I

906
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 6: want them to be really good wide receivers, not just

907
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: like that one wide receiver one and then more wide

908
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: receiver six sevens. I want more ones and twos like

909
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Speaker 6: as Matt Smith would say.

910
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Speaker 3: He's one.

911
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: I think we're all on the same page. We need

912
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Speaker 2: high end.

913
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: I mean we talk about some of like Chris God

914
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 3: when I know, you know, Paul wasn't really interested in

915
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: him because he's coming off an injury. But you know,

916
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: if you if you could wrap your head around that

917
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: one of just a guy who you feel like when

918
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: he if when he would get out there, you would

919
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: feel pretty good.

920
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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I mean that's and then draft one in

921
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: the second or third round. Then I would tell all

922
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: of the guys that are on the current roster and

923
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Speaker 4: say thanks, thanks for that's how you overturn your your room.

924
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Speaker 6: Could you get someone like Davante Adams since.

925
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Speaker 2: He technically is like not, Look, why would he want

926
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Speaker 2: to come here with Josh?

927
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Speaker 4: I think everything should be in play though, that's why

928
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Speaker 4: that particular one probably wouldn't happen because he hated them.

929
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Speaker 6: But or Tie Higgins and Brown, Brown don't just you're

930
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 6: getting me? Can we afford that?

931
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Speaker 2: Well, you could afford it. Absolutely, you can do it.

932
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Speaker 3: Do a show Brown on Brown with you, you can

933
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Speaker 3: do it.

934
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Speaker 4: But but that's the kind of like I think everything

935
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 4: that you could possibly come up with should be in play.

936
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Now.

937
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 4: Is it realistic? Probably not, But if you can do that.

938
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 4: I made the comment. You know, we talked about this

939
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 4: a lot on the show. There are a lot of

940
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Speaker 4: guys that are under contract forget about Y's and Jones

941
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 4: and those guys that are going to be free agents.

942
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: There are a lot of guys under contract, some of

943
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: which just signed a contract like within within the year,

944
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: that are not going to be back. I don't know

945
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 4: who they are. Kendrick Bourne is certainly on that list.

946
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how many of those guys they can

947
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 4: afford to let go. But my guess is Mike Rabel

948
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: wants to overturn that roster as much as he can

949
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: and find his mid level kind of free agents that

950
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: can come in and play right away.

951
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 6: Is Jakobe Meers a free agent, can we steal him back?

952
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 4: That's he's not next year.

953
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: But I two guys I would just consider julyn And

954
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: and Anthony Jennings, who I kind of like, and I

955
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: do think that like as a on the line comment linebacker,

956
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: strong side linebacker, he could probably.

957
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: But I really think everybody like it's dugger, it's the

958
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: guys that Mike just said, it's born, it's o WHENU

959
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 4: like Pepper's Peppers, They're not all going to go. I'm

960
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: not suggesting that bar and cut like ten guys farm

961
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: when you would say, yeah, well if they want to

962
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: go to depending on what they want to do for,

963
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: you know, for the style up front like that could

964
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Speaker 4: impact went.

965
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: Sure, Hey, Eldred's listening. What's up, Eldred?

966
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 4: Aldred on the side of the road, Eldred, I've been worried, sick.

967
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul's going to come change your time.

968
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: But it's a it's a good question. So when you

969
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: see like a semi on the side of the road

970
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: broken down, what what's usually the problem? What's usually happening there?

971
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 14: It could be a bunch of things. One for that

972
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 14: car too, Like yesterday my break line, my upright had

973
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 14: a little little cut in it, some kind of.

974
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Weight and.

975
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 14: Transmission chang okay, airlines, Yeah, goes to.

976
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: Stuff. Okay, so they had to get it picked.

977
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 14: But the bad probat is it takes them two hours

978
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 14: to get their butt over here. It takes them to

979
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 14: fix it, so you're running out of time and everything.

980
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: So they were able to fix it right there on

981
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: the road. Yeah, okay, if they don't do to I

982
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: know that's that's a whole thing.

983
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just have one question, if you can, I

984
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: ask you one more question. Have you ever seen over

985
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: the top and is there a subculture of arm wrestling

986
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: in the truck driving community.

987
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 14: I've never seen it. I've been a bunch of trucks

988
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 14: stopped or whatever were you're sitting there resting, And I've

989
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 14: never seen it. I heard about it, but I never

990
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 14: seen it.

991
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: Now it's pretty good. If you go over the top,

992
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: you know you'll win every time.

993
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: Are the truck stops as seedy as they make them

994
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: out to be with all with everything going on?

995
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 14: But they used to when I was over the road.

996
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, I know what you're talking about. It's inappropriate.

997
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get some insight here.

998
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, appeals on what state? But uh, you'd be surprised

999
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 14: what state did that though? Yeah, And it was like

1000
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 14: comment so t Texas, then Antonio, Houston, h Kennessee and

1001
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 14: and like the Melifornia.

1002
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: Are are there certain truck stops like on everyone's map,

1003
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: like ooh the truck stop in San Antonio on exit three?

1004
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Oooh that one? Yeah? Is there like an app that

1005
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: you can find?

1006
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 14: Not really dontown. They just popped up dontown.

1007
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: They don't, okay, And.

1008
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 14: Like everybody else, we'll we'll call it it cause I

1009
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 14: don't want to be able to fix the clock news.

1010
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 14: Like everybody else where, you're going to jail in the

1011
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 14: truck going the inpound lot and you come together.

1012
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Take care of So no, that's true. So what do

1013
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: you what do you got football wise?

1014
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 14: Football wise? You heard that rumor about uh, Milton Milton

1015
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 14: might be traded to the Raiders to beat.

1016
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: Carolonia Milton might be traded? Well, who started this rumor?

1017
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: Somebody with two followers on that.

1018
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 14: Nope, it's on. It's on the news seat on the

1019
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 14: new seater sports thing. They come up about the Panthers, Patriots,

1020
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 14: all the other teams, Ram Seattle, who might go over

1021
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 14: then Seattle? They telling me about I won't make Cam bad.

1022
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 14: But he said something about.

1023
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: I don't like it here.

1024
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 13: You want to come?

1025
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: I heard that.

1026
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 14: I'm like, well, damn, that's that.

1027
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: Well he might be saying that. Then you offer him

1028
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: a bag and it's like all of a sudden, I

1029
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: like Massachusetts.

1030
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah he might be. But I'm looking at but

1031
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 14: And the other thing is, I'm waiting on the wide

1032
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 14: receiver coach. That's who I'm waiting.

1033
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, waiting on that one.

1034
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 14: But other than that, that did for Paul Brady and Hinson.

1035
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 14: He was a he was a two star plus. He

1036
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 14: was a two full athlete baseball and football, and that

1037
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 14: what gave him presence over Tom Brady and Carson. Yeah,

1038
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 14: Brady again, Brady won.

1039
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well all right, Aldred, thank you. Thank Brady was

1040
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: a to sport athlete too, Yeah, yeah, exposed, right, but

1041
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: he wasn't a picture Yeah he was.

1042
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 4: Drew Henson came to Michigan as a very highly decorated

1043
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: I know, and Cloud was a two.

1044
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: Sport guy, but I think that clouded. Yeah, cars also.

1045
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 4: Caused all kinds of pressure because he had pressure to play.

1046
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: I agree, all right, we're gonna take a break. My

1047
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: foods here when we come back. More calls and emails.

1048
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 2: No picks today though, right, so we don't have to hurry.

1049
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: We have all day.

1050
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: But you know, real quick, I just said to Paul,

1051
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: maybe we do some prop bets next week for the

1052
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, you know, like to certain you know, not

1053
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: just the game, but well we're putting some together, you know,

1054
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 3: like how many blatant there we do for next with

1055
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: those kinds of things for you?

1056
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,720
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Speaker 17: Part Now for another edition of Pats from the Past podcast,

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Speaker 17: Matt Smith, Paul p Rolo and please to be joined

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Speaker 17: by former Patriot quarterback Brian hoy or Brian. Thanks for

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Speaker 17: coming by man.

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00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate me on guys.

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00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 17: Yeah, we asked this of everybody, so I think people

1084
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 17: who are football fans Patriot fans know, is Brian gonna play?

1085
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 17: Is Brian not gonna play? What's what's going on with

1086
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 17: Brian Hoyr these days?

1087
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Speaker 2: We nont know.

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Speaker 18: I think it would take a great opportunity to come

1089
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Speaker 18: along for me to do that. Obviously, I was in

1090
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 18: Las Vegas last year. I know I can still play

1091
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 18: because I beat the Patriots last year, one of the

1092
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Speaker 18: most tooche, one.

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Speaker 2: Of the most.

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Speaker 18: It's on my list, Brian on my list sweet moments

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00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 18: of my career. So we'll talk about that later. But

1096
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 18: you know, so I know I can still physically do it.

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Speaker 18: But at thirty eight years old, my kids are getting older.

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Speaker 18: You know, I think it would take a really great

1099
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 18: opportunity for me, you know, to come along, for me

1100
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 18: to to kind of look and see. But so I

1101
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 18: know I can still do it. Body feels relatively healthy

1102
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 18: and you know, so we'll see. It's it's always open.

1103
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 18: People always say, you know, you if someone's offering you

1104
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 18: an opportunity to play and you feel like you could

1105
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 18: do it, you know, you know, I remember a former

1106
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 18: teammate saying, play till they tell you you can't. So

1107
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 18: definitely capable of it. It's just got to be I

1108
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 18: think the right opportunity at this point.

1109
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 17: You know, idiots like us sit there and oh, you know,

1110
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 17: he can play, or it's time to go, and everything

1111
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 17: like that. But I don't think the lay people realize

1112
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 17: what's it like to make that decision as a family. Yeah,

1113
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 17: when you have a wife who's supported you cross country trips,

1114
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 17: taking kids back and forth, at some point in time,

1115
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 17: her decision or her opinion, while always valued, you got

1116
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 17: to really listen to that's got to be hard, like

1117
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 17: from a as a family standpoint, like at what point

1118
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 17: time do I need to devote my time to them?

1119
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 2: Right? And that's a huge part of the decision making.

1120
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Speaker 18: So that's why I said, like, it have to be

1121
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 18: the right opportunity and all those things, because you know,

1122
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 18: deciding to go to play in Las Vegas last year,

1123
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 18: it was not an easy choice. It was an easy

1124
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 18: choice because it was Josh in my relationship with him,

1125
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 18: but it wasn't an easy choice in the regards of

1126
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 18: what does this mean for my family? And thankfully we

1127
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 18: had a great school here that allowed our kids to

1128
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Speaker 18: kind of virtual school with the help of a tutor

1129
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 18: out there.

1130
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Speaker 3: But it was rough.

1131
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 18: It was it was a rough transition and they were

1132
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 18: all happy to come back once the season was over.

1133
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 18: And so now my son, he's going into seventh grade,

1134
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 18: he's he got accepted as Avarian brother. So you know,

1135
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 18: those are all things that you have to take into account.

1136
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 18: Like I want to watch him play football at of course,

1137
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 18: he's watched me play for a long time.

1138
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: So maybe it's times, you know, for.

1139
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: A role reverse when you have when you came out

1140
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: of Michigan State. I mean, you didn't get drafted, yep,

1141
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know what your expectations were heading in,

1142
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: but to then have what a fifteen year career off

1143
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: of that, what were your expectations sort of when you

1144
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: arrived here in two thousand and nine, what were.

1145
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: You helping for.

1146
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 18: I was just talking about this with my son the

1147
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 18: other day and I said, listen, when I didn't get drafted,

1148
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 18: you know, I kind of thought, Okay, the Patriots are

1149
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 18: going to sign me. I'll learn from Tom Brady. Obviously

1150
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 18: I grew up I watched Bill coach in Cleveland, so

1151
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 18: I always kind of had an affinity to him, and

1152
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 18: obviously him being a great coach, I thought it was

1153
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 18: a great opportunity to go learn. And I thought, you know,

1154
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 18: maybe I'll make the practice squad if I get released.

1155
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 18: At least I'll learn from these guys. And then sure enough,

1156
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 18: I kind of worked my way up the ranks, ended

1157
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 18: up being Tom's backup my rookie year. And you know,

1158
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 18: the things that I learned in those first four years

1159
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 18: were so invaluable to me that when I finally got

1160
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 18: some opportunities to play, you know, you put those in motion,

1161
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 18: and then you just keep stack in year, stack in years,

1162
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 18: and and you know the thing about the quarterback position

1163
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 18: is if you're relatively competent and you're a good guy,

1164
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 18: and you make some connections, you know, you just extend

1165
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 18: your career, extend your career. That's I mean, when I

1166
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 18: look at last year, if if Josh isn't the head

1167
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 18: coach in Las Vegas last year, then you know, maybe

1168
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 18: my my my career ends there. But you know, luckily

1169
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 18: for me, I've met a lot of great coaches, played

1170
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 18: with a lot of great players, and made a lot

1171
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 18: of great connections which allowed me to do that.

1172
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Speaker 17: That's a little bit unorthodox. Brian as a rookie, now

1173
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 17: you're backing up Brady, who's, by the way, is coming

1174
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 17: off a knee surgery at that point in time, and

1175
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 17: you're the only backup quarterback your rookie year, that was

1176
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 17: the same way, and twenty ten you're the only backup court.

1177
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Like not a lot of teams did that.

1178
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 17: Well, how did that? What was your thought process in that?

1179
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 17: Like you want to talk about literally next man up

1180
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 17: in your one pitch away, Yeah, you're one pitch away

1181
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 17: at that point.

1182
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 18: I think I was too naive to even understand that

1183
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 18: at that point. You know, now looking back, when you realize,

1184
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 18: like Tom's coming off of major knee reconstruction, had you know,

1185
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 18: some hiccups along the way, Man, if I had had

1186
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 18: to play that year, I don't know how ready I

1187
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 18: would have been. Obviously Bill believed in me, and Bill

1188
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 18: O'Brien believed to me, and and so I'm sure it

1189
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 18: would have, you know, worked itself out. We had a

1190
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 18: really good team, So I think I would have relied

1191
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 18: on those guys around me. But you know, at that point,

1192
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 18: you're just I was just thrilled to be an NFL

1193
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 18: football player. And now I'm going to a meeting room

1194
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 18: every day with Tom Brady and soaking up what I

1195
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 18: can I can learn from him, And then you know,

1196
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 18: that went for four years and then until I got

1197
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 18: released in twenty twelve. So I mean those years, like

1198
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 18: you know, those are kind of like, you know, your

1199
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 18: the years you're building your foundation of your career, and

1200
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 18: I couldn't have done it in a better place.

1201
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 4: So I wanted to ask you a little bit about

1202
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: that rookie season. You were part of some really good teams,

1203
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: and you know, ultimately you were part of a champion

1204
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: in eighteen, but you know, you had that great year

1205
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: in twenty ten, twenty eleven, you go to the super

1206
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: Bowl in two thousand and nine. You probably didn't recognize

1207
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: it at the time, it's your rookie year, but do

1208
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: you kind of look back and say, there was a

1209
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 4: little bit of something amiss in two thousand and nine.

1210
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 4: That's sort of the way it's kind of viewed here.

1211
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: That was kind of a reset year, and we're very

1212
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: spoiled because we've been brought up a lot of like it.

1213
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know any better. Tennesse is going to the

1214
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: playoffs and all that stuff is not I thought it

1215
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: was a great I'm like, man, I'm a great But

1216
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: did you did.

1217
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: You see did you sense any like sort of dysfunction?

1218
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: At the time, or you know, maybe looking back at it,

1219
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: do you feel like that wasn't the same as some

1220
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 4: of the better teams that you were on.

1221
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 18: Definitely wasn't the same. I think looking back now, knowing

1222
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 18: what I know and being on some great teams, it wasn't.

1223
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 18: There was definitely some learning curve, There was some adjusting

1224
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 18: to new I mean, that was Bill O'Brien's first year

1225
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 18: as a coordinator here, you know, so now I know

1226
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 18: how important that is, you know, being a quarterback. When

1227
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 18: you're learning, even if you're keeping somewhat of the system intact,

1228
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 18: you're working with someone new, and and that was you know,

1229
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 18: so those were kind of I guess you call growing pains.

1230
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 18: But I thought, like, man, we're going to the playoffs,

1231
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 18: like we're this is I'm on the Patriots. This is

1232
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 18: like a super Bowl organization. Like Okay, one year, you know,

1233
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 18: we didn't win the super Bowl, and I'm like, oh,

1234
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 18: we'll win it next year. I mean, I think that

1235
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 18: that's kind of the expectation you have when you come

1236
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 18: into that organization. And I've always said this, I've always

1237
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 18: looked at it. When Tom Brady was the quarterback. I

1238
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 18: never went into a game, thinking we're not going to win. Ever,

1239
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 18: there was never and I did, wait, well, I've been

1240
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 18: on other teams, whether I was the quarterback or someone

1241
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 18: else is the quarterback, and I'm like, man, I don't

1242
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 18: know how much a chance we have this Sunday. And

1243
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 18: I can honestly say every game that I ever played

1244
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 18: here backing Tom up, that there was I never had

1245
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 18: that feeling. And obviously a lot of other players around that.

1246
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 18: But you know, when I talk with a lot of

1247
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 18: my old teammates, I think that that feeling was very

1248
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 18: you know similar.

1249
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: I bring it up because it's again that's why I

1250
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 4: preface it by saying we're spoiled, you know, when that's

1251
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 4: considered a uote unquote down here. But you know, Bill

1252
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: infamously said on that documentary, I just can't get these

1253
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 4: guys to play there.

1254
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 18: I was playing in that game at the time, Tom

1255
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 18: standing rushed by New Orleans, and I think I remember

1256
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 18: thinking to myself, like, wow, I'm playing it a Monday

1257
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 18: night football game. You know, like, Okay, one bad game,

1258
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 18: we got crushed, But I'm playing in a Monday night

1259
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 18: football game.

1260
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.

1261
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 18: And you know, you see that and you really and

1262
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 18: then having been on Champion Champion team and teams that

1263
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 18: went to super Bowls, you realize like we probably didn't

1264
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 18: have a chance.

1265
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: To go to the super Bowl that year, right, and

1266
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 2: then you have and now great moments in history.

1267
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 19: I had to stop at that Shell station down next

1268
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 19: to Luciano's on one Fred Yeah, filling up for gas.

1269
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 19: So I go in to pay the cashier, this woman

1270
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 19: who's been there forever pump you, I know, I like

1271
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 19: to go in and pay pre pay.

1272
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 6: I like that.

1273
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: I just look it better.

1274
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 3: Come, don't get me on it, don't get cap it.

1275
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 2: Why do you like? I get the card, credit card?

1276
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: It's just twenty bucks on or fill it up.

1277
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 19: No, I usually put in a certain amount to do

1278
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 19: that at the pump. I know you can Jerry Seinfeld

1279
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 19: from the commercial that he did back in the day

1280
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 19: when he remember he did that.

1281
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, and he pulled the credit card. Why

1282
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: would you all the way in there? All the way

1283
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: It's not like you're walking fifteen miles. You can't understand

1284
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: if you didn't have a credit card, all you had

1285
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: was cat because then you got that. I can't understand anyway.

1286
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 19: So I go into the store that makes no sense

1287
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 19: anyway I go into the well, stop it and let

1288
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 19: me finish the story.

1289
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: Why would you go in? Oh, it's just such a hassle.

1290
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: It's not a hassle.

1291
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 17: You're the laziest person.

1292
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 19: I've never known that they did this at the I'm

1293
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 19: walking ten steps to walk into the door so I

1294
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 19: can pay for cash.

1295
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: And say I'll have this. It's for our convenience.

1296
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 19: Have you ever seen the signs on there that a

1297
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 19: lot of places say pre go inside and pre pay

1298
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 19: before you pump. A lot of places won't let you

1299
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 19: do that thing at the pump.

1300
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: You know, what the hell do you maybe in Arkansas?

1301
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1307
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1309
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: We don't have people sizes. We don't have extra large.

1310
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: We don't have our fans sizes. We need to get

1311
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: more T shirts, more extra largest. Who's in charge of

1312
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: ordering T shirts?

1313
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1314
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1315
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 6: But can we go back to that commercial that just

1316
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 6: happened the Greatest moments from the greatest filters that pay

1317
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 6: before you pump. You can pay at the pump. You

1318
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 6: don't have to go inside.

1319
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: You paid before if you only have cast exactly.

1320
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: And the only time I probably count in my hand

1321
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 6: how many times I've actually gone inside only done that.

1322
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 6: If some gas stations there's one one actually that like

1323
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 6: offers you a discount if you pay in cash. I

1324
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 6: never have cash, but sometimes I do, and then I

1325
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 6: will go inside to get the discount. Other than that,

1326
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 6: I'm always using my course.

1327
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: How do you I'm not going to course pay before

1328
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: exactly and then you're going to go back in and

1329
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: get your change. You're like, well, I gotta just put

1330
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: forty bucks in.

1331
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: This is what I had with.

1332
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1333
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: This is what I had to do.

1334
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 8: That's your unless he's like overly cautious about like skandit

1335
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 8: card scammers, because I've had a friend.

1336
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 6: That it happened to me someone stole my card number

1337
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 6: from the pump.

1338
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 7: They would never use a debit, but.

1339
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 6: I just got a new card.

1340
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: I was like, even the fear of it. He would

1341
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: just be like, no, I'm not even risking it.

1342
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: But by the way, if you go in and pay

1343
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: with a credit card, they can do it there too.

1344
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: Sure.

1345
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: They have these things that go over the credit card

1346
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: machine that actually takes your stripe twice, so it can

1347
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: happen anywhere that you're giving your credit card.

1348
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: So using credit card.

1349
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: The only way to avoid that it is to use cash.

1350
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I never have cash because I lose it. I'll

1351
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 6: find it in care later in my pocket.

1352
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 4: Anyway, it's funny and you say that who carries cash?

1353
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: I went in.

1354
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: I was hungry this morning, so full disclosure, I got

1355
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: myself in a muffin. Faddy got himself an age me

1356
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: muffin this morning. So I was there and I didn't

1357
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: have my My newspaper hadn't arrived yet.

1358
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: This morning, so the whole morning is screwed up.

1359
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 4: Thank you, Fred for understanding. You understood perfectly. So I said,

1360
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 4: stole your neighbors, so let me know, let me get

1361
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 4: a newspaper. Well, I mean, you know, right, down the street.

1362
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: The McDonald's is connected to the little.

1363
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, they have the mini store kind of convenience store.

1364
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: So I get the newspaper, which, by the way, is

1365
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: four dollars. That was for a globe. That's criminal anyway.

1366
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: So I put the globe up and get my card out,

1367
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh no, you can't. You can't pay

1368
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 4: for the newspaper with a credit card. Has to be

1369
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: cash only. And I'm like, oh, so I look at

1370
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: my wallet. Of course I had three dollars on me.

1371
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: So I'm like, cash for newspaper just leaves better. It

1372
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 2: gets better.

1373
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 7: Wandering money.

1374
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 4: So I said, okay, so what if I buy something else?

1375
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: Can I pay for the pay with the card?

1376
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 6: Then?

1377
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, So I got a bottle with you know,

1378
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: big stunner. Here a bottle with.

1379
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: Diet PENSI in the newspaper. So for six dollars I

1380
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 4: could use my card. So was it a thing because

1381
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: he said it was because of the newspaper. But then

1382
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: he let me get the newspaper, So I don't know.

1383
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: That's weird because it was like a minimum spell. Yeah,

1384
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: someplaces say I don't under ten dollars, we don't accept

1385
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: credit cards because of the fees. It could also be

1386
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: the distributor of the newspaper. Maybe they have to pay

1387
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: them in cash because you know those Yeah, I just

1388
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: thought it was those newspaper distributors. Let me do it though, Yeah,

1389
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: so I don't know.

1390
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what the ye, I don't know what

1391
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 4: the restriction.

1392
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Anyway, Spie goes on, he says, what are your guys?

1393
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: Muffin was good though, Oh yeah, yeah, and I paid

1394
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: it and I paid with a card for that too,

1395
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: if you what are your guys plans? Food plans for

1396
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? I always make two dishes themed after

1397
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: the team's playing, so this year it's smoked ribs and

1398
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: cheese steak sandwiches. Don't know what I would have done

1399
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: for Washington, but would have liked to try buffaloes beef

1400
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: on weck. It's thinly sliced roast beef on coumel weck roll,

1401
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: which is a type of kaiser roll top with a

1402
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: coarse salt caraway seeds, served with horse radish and au

1403
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: ju for dipping. But damn, I missed the days when

1404
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: the clamshowder flowed like wine. Yeah, yeah, I know, I

1405
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: hear what you're saying, so, that's a good question. What

1406
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: are you guys playing on?

1407
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't planned yet my earlier in the day,

1408
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to ref three girls hockey games.

1409
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: I knew there had to be something.

1410
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Like three three games, and I'm going to work up

1411
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: a really good appetite. But I don't know yet. It's

1412
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: a great question. I like what he's saying, though. I

1413
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: love the thought of beef and horse radish, Like that's

1414
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: that's appeeling is good.

1415
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: It's a little song. Now the bread is much too

1416
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: salty for my taste.

1417
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 6: I will be in New Orleans, so I have absolutely

1418
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 6: that's right.

1419
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, working I sorry, crawfish jambalaya.

1420
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 7: Looking forward to alligator not that. Oh it's so good.

1421
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: I can't.

1422
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 6: I can't do it.

1423
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 7: I'll try anything twice.

1424
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 6: People who have like even in Florida and things on

1425
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 6: the menu, I'm like, I can't.

1426
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: Do I have to stick to.

1427
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 6: What what?

1428
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: What's the weird?

1429
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 8: This is more of a cultural thing, but like octopus,

1430
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 8: A lot of people think it's pretty weird, but I

1431
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 8: think it's kind of normal.

1432
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 6: See, I can't. I can't do the alligator of the

1433
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: frog leg.

1434
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 7: Alligator is probably the weirdest thing I've had deer.

1435
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: I've had Newport jerky.

1436
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 7: Has king Rue jerky that I've tried before that might

1437
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 7: be weird too.

1438
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: We had a listener named Matt who was a hunter

1439
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: and before the show he came here from Oregon. But

1440
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: he came here and set up a grill in the

1441
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: parking lot. This is not game day, this is like

1442
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: a Tuesday and grilled elk and then brought it into

1443
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: the show for us to eat.

1444
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: That sounds good.

1445
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: I'd eat that.

1446
01:02:59,120 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 3: It was.

1447
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 4: It was really good. Then we got in trouble for

1448
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: having like open flires. No but the security.

1449
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: We wanted to have him do it in the kitchen,

1450
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: but they wouldn't. They don't allow people to bring in

1451
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: food from outside into the kitchen. I'm like, well, how

1452
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: does all the did he shoot?

1453
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 7: Wasn't Matt Light? Like killing turkeys on property is putting

1454
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 7: them in the fridge?

1455
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, duck.

1456
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 7: So it's just who you are.

1457
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say too.

1458
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 3: I listened to Matt patricia on on Edelman's podcast, and man,

1459
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: did he have some Matt Light stories. And I feel

1460
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: like I've heard some of them over the years, but

1461
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: he sounded like a pain in the ass, Like it

1462
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: sounded almost like dude, just chill, Like why does everything

1463
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: have to be constant Frank's And yeah, I mean like

1464
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: he talked about pranking Bill O'Brien and he had like

1465
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: an app so that it came up as Robert Kraft

1466
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 3: calling O'Brien and they're watching Bill O'Brien like look at

1467
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: his phone and freak out and think that Robert's calling him,

1468
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 3: And like the guy was relent.

1469
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 8: They messed with scarneki Is like mouse for a whole

1470
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 8: season two on his computer and all the IT guys

1471
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 8: in like the IT guys are probably on the borderline.

1472
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: And being fied, right, because I think Matt Light was

1473
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: just you know.

1474
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 8: I moderated a panel last year with or maybe the

1475
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 8: season before with Matt Light, and like within two minutes

1476
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 8: I realized I am absolutely useless here. He's going to

1477
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 8: carry this whole thing.

1478
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: And that means it was good. That means you did

1479
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: a good job. You stayed out of the way. Yeah,

1480
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: you did a good job.

1481
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: Let him do his thing.

1482
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: Patty's on the line, what's up, Patty? Yeah? What have

1483
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: we got for a spread? On a week from Sunday?

1484
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 20: I'm taking the Eagles. That's what I'm thinking.

1485
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the spread is though, I think

1486
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: food wise, I meant food, Yeah, just spread.

1487
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: I could care less about your pick.

1488
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 20: My wife's making her famous her grandmother's Italian old Italian meatballs.

1489
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: Okay, old Italian meatballs.

1490
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 20: Yeah, her old style, her old country italianata.

1491
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: The old country meets using that you have the veel

1492
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: in there, got gravy or sauce on those meatballs.

1493
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 20: Gravy, God, he's got a little bit of gravy.

1494
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 14: No feel though that.

1495
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 20: I'm a little disappointed. She doesn't use deal but she

1496
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 20: uses round and ground beef. So I just want to

1497
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 20: ask you guys. I know one of you brought it up,

1498
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 20: but did any of you peruse the Daniel Jeremiah's top

1499
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 20: fifty prospect list.

1500
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Deuce was talking about that earlier. Anything on screen.

1501
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1502
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 20: One thing that stood out was, I mean, if Carter's

1503
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 20: not there or which probably he's not gonna be. Yeah,

1504
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 20: I'm sorry, Fred If if if they think, if they

1505
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 20: they test Will Campbell and think that he can play

1506
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 20: left tackle, I think that's got to be the pick

1507
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 20: because we got to protect the quarterback. Jeremiah like wrote

1508
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 20: a great piece on him too. I think he had

1509
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 20: him as his number eight prospect. But if you look

1510
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 20: at what he said, he said, like as far as

1511
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 20: like the arm length goes, he doesn't think it's going

1512
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 20: to be concerned and he's like, barring any health problems,

1513
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 20: this kid should play tackle for the next ten years. Yeah,

1514
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 20: and really out of this draft.

1515
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 14: More than anything.

1516
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 20: That's kind of what I'm looking for, And I just

1517
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 20: want to get your.

1518
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 5: Guys thoughts on that.

1519
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, Patty. Listen, if that's what they believe, that

1520
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: he can play tackle for the next it's not a

1521
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: bad pick. I think I'm not.

1522
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 4: Confidence that those guys think he can play tackle, But

1523
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: him playing the next ten years is not the same

1524
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 4: as playing well. Yeah, Eric Fisher played for ten years.

1525
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 4: I need better than that.

1526
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, But listen, if let's just if he was Matt

1527
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 2: light Goood, would that be good enough? Yeah?

1528
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: Probably?

1529
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

1530
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 6: I just think you can't let me just go back.

1531
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 6: I feel like I heard Jerry maddle on in my head.

1532
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 6: I think you've got to tell people who manager I

1533
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 6: believe making all of us better. I believe that when

1534
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 6: you look at the past four years, especially since I've

1535
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 6: been here, the draft classes have been so bad for

1536
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 6: the Patriots, minus a few people like Christian Gonzales, Marcus Jones,

1537
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 6: et cetera. But I think you can't afford to go

1538
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 6: into this draft saying if you play this person at tackle,

1539
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 6: he could work out to be great. You have to

1540
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 6: go in there and be confident about the person you're picking.

1541
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 6: You cannot afford to go into this draft and do

1542
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 6: the same thing you've done in the past four years

1543
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 6: and go off a whim and pick someone and hope

1544
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 6: it works out. You got to be really confident this

1545
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: person is going to be a star player for you

1546
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 6: for the next four years plus.

1547
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I forget who wrote it. I

1548
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: think it was Evan recently. But it seems to be

1549
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: that Belichick's style of drafting leaned toward need rather than

1550
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: best player, and that a lot of it was fitting

1551
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: a certain thing that we wanted to see at that position.

1552
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 6: I still didn't see how cold strange and you fit

1553
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 6: into that right.

1554
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 2: And you're taking a big risk in the NFL because

1555
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: now you're taking a guy to do a certain thing

1556
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: from college into the NFL, and it's not always translatable.

1557
01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 6: So you told me that that time Cole Strange was fit,

1558
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 6: your need was the best player on the board that fits.

1559
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: That's what they thought. That's what they thought.

1560
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: So I think that I would push back on that.

1561
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that at all. I think all

1562
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: teams picked for need, and I think that there's there's

1563
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 4: a difference between and just making a bad pick doing

1564
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: it for the wrong reason.

1565
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference between we need a cornerback, and

1566
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: we need a cornerback who does ABC No, we just

1567
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: need a great quarterback. And I think, and look, this

1568
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: is what So those are two That's what I said.

1569
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 4: Those are two different things, picking for need and picking

1570
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 4: for specific skill sets. That's that's not the same thing. Right, Like,

1571
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 4: they needed a guard that year, they picked the wrong guy.

1572
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 4: And I would argue that in general, you don't take

1573
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: guards in the first round. Now, you could make an

1574
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: argument that Indianapolis they took Quenton Nelson, Osyrus Torrens been

1575
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 4: a really good guard in.

1576
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: The first round.

1577
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1578
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 4: I wouldn't take a guard in the first round guy

1579
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 4: that you know is going to be a guard. Now,

1580
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 4: Logan Logan Man was a tackle coming out. It's also

1581
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: a little bit different. He was the thirty second pick,

1582
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 4: and he ended up playing guard at an all pro level,

1583
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: And that's a great pick. I think that teams like,

1584
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 4: if you just stay to your board, you're gonna end

1585
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 4: up with guys that you don't need. Like, if you

1586
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 4: just want to stay with your board all the time,

1587
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 4: you don't want to reach to fill a need. That's

1588
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 4: different than picking for need. You know, Bill Belichick, I

1589
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 4: think had a tremendous amount of success drafting for ten

1590
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 4: twelve years, taking guys like Ty Warren, you know, in

1591
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: the first round. I mean, how many all those first

1592
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 4: round picks year after year after year nailed every single

1593
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 4: one of them. A lot of those picks were for need.

1594
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 4: They couldn't stop the run. In two thousand and two,

1595
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 4: they went out and got Ty Warren in the first round.

1596
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: He probably wasn't the highest guy on the board at

1597
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 4: the time, but he was an excellent fit for what

1598
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 4: they needed, and he worked out really, really well.

1599
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1600
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: So like you can pick for need and but get

1601
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: it right. But it's easy to do that when you

1602
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: have good players and then you're just filling hole.

1603
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: Well that's why right now I wouldn't say, you know,

1604
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 4: I think tomorrow earlier in the show you were talking

1605
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: about so you guys think defense in the first round

1606
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 4: as a post offense, not necessarily. I'm just trying to

1607
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 4: figure out who the best player is, and I think

1608
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: Abdul Carter might be the best player in the draft period.

1609
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 4: So if you were there at four, I'd have a

1610
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 4: hard time, you know, passing him up. So I could

1611
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 4: take Will Campbell, who I don't think is anywhere near

1612
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: as talented is Abdul Carter. I need both of those spots.

1613
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: Right, That's where drafting for need hurts.

1614
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 3: You, right, or even compare him to Mason Graham, where

1615
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 3: it's you know, you might have a really good defensive tackle.

1616
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 3: Who's I mean, like not a top the needs list

1617
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: or you get a server of suite.

1618
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: We need some things.

1619
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I want to say, like make sure people

1620
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 6: hear me loud and clear and like, oh my god,

1621
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 6: you don't think that these players are good that we

1622
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 6: drafted Drake May excellent pick obviously, Marcus Jones. I love

1623
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 6: what he brings his team. A lot of versatil like

1624
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 6: there's players Pop Jugglass.

1625
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: Like, but we all know the four people.

1626
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 6: Yes, I just want to say, I just want to

1627
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 6: say there. Yeah, Christian Gonzales excellent pick. So I want

1628
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 6: to say that, like, I'm not saying that those were

1629
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 6: bad picks, just I cannot get the thought out of

1630
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 6: my head. For my first year here at the draft party,

1631
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 6: we drafted Cole Strange. You could hear a pin drop

1632
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 6: in the room.

1633
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 2: That was a bad pick. Yeah, that was around on

1634
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: TV laughing at us.

1635
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: And it's not because of Cole Strange that it was

1636
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: a bad It was just doesn't make sense to take

1637
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 4: a guard. First of all, you took a guard. He

1638
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 4: wasn't anywhere near the top guy on the board. He

1639
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: wasn't even the top guard on the board at the time,

1640
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 4: and you just overdrafted the position as well. That that pick,

1641
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 4: I think is sort of how people now define Bill

1642
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 4: Belichick's drafting strategy, and I don't think that's fair. I

1643
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 4: think your other part that you said, like Nikhil Harry,

1644
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 4: Nikil Harry was an end of the first round, top

1645
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 4: of the second round that year.

1646
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 2: He got taken where.

1647
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 4: Everybody thought he would would get taken where I think

1648
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 4: that Bill kind of looks at as what you said, like,

1649
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 4: is he a wide receiver who can.

1650
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: Play on all four downs? Will he block right, you know?

1651
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 4: Is he verse little to play inside out's like? No,

1652
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: just just if you wanted to take a wide receiver there,

1653
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,679
Speaker 4: take the best one, right.

1654
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: That's AJ Brown right like and then AJ Brown goes

1655
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 3: however many picks like.

1656
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: But if you think that that DK Metcalf is better

1657
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:30,480
Speaker 4: than Kaneil Harry, you're an idiot, as Michael Lombardi famously.

1658
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: Told me, Kyle and Pembroke last night, Felger and Mass

1659
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: decided to criticize Evan for the repeated use of Coach

1660
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 2: Rabel in his article. F both of them, especially Felger, Mister,

1661
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: why is it may at Rabel's press conference the wine bag.

1662
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: Evan is a great reporter and a great writer. Also

1663
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: Catch twenty two and Pu are better than Felger and

1664
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: Mas any day. Yeah you hear that. Yeah, now that

1665
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm done ranting, so get the compensated in a similar way.

1666
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 4: Since we're better, I think we should.

1667
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 6: You look at me, clip email and put in your newsletter.

1668
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 4: We greater than sign right?

1669
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: How you do it? Now that you now that I'm

1670
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: done ranting, thank you guys for all you've done. What

1671
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: would you guys think of the patriots going after Khalil

1672
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 2: Mack for a one or a two year deal.

1673
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 3: Sure, I think they need I don't hate it. Uh,

1674
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: that's one spot. I feel the same way about wide receiver.

1675
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: I won't kick anyone out of bed like yeah him.

1676
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna need somebody rushing off the edge

1677
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: with some speed. And I mean maybe he's you know,

1678
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 3: I think it a good year this year? Didn't he

1679
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 3: was always okay?

1680
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, good game against the Patriots again,

1681
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: Norman daytona beach. I agree with Fred me too. Josh

1682
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: is no dummy. I'm guessing he's going to create his

1683
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: offensive game plan to the strengths of Drake and whatever

1684
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 2: weapons they add this offseason. Do you, guys and ladies

1685
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: think he's coaching for his NFL life? Considering he wasn't

1686
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 2: coaching last year and after to fail head coaching jobs,

1687
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: it didn't seem like he was highly pursued during his

1688
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: years during the coordinator hiring cycle. Or is it we

1689
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: just didn't hear about any interviews that he had.

1690
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, there's also

1691
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 3: be his last job, did they just Yeah, I mean

1692
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: I agree with what Paul said, But you know was

1693
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 3: it already kind of wink wink, No, not everybody knows

1694
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: he's going there. I think there were reports connecting him

1695
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: to here for a while. I also just bring up

1696
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 3: that they interviewed I guess Eric b Enemy came out

1697
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: a little bit later to add him to the mix.

1698
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would just let me clarify, like, I think

1699
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 4: that he'll be an offensive coordinator. Let's say he coaches

1700
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 4: Drake May for the next eight or ten years and

1701
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: he's very successful with that, and then whatever the coaching

1702
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 4: stat you know, he could he I think would be

1703
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 4: in line to get more offensive coordinator work, whether it's here,

1704
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 4: continuing here, or go to someone else's thing. But I

1705
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 4: don't think he'll ever be a head coach again, tough.

1706
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 6: Do you think that maybe if he didn't get any

1707
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 6: other offensive coordinator interviews anywhere else, that it's because people

1708
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 6: wanted to see more from him first, Like maybe they thought, Okay,

1709
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 6: maybe he is yeah kind of in a box and

1710
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 6: what he can do, like he really can do this,

1711
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 6: but we don't know if he can do this.

1712
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: Do you think that's why I think that he could.

1713
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,480
Speaker 4: Prove that he is not just reliant on Bellichidy Belichick

1714
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 4: and Brady. Yeah, yep, if he has a lot of success.

1715
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 2: Right now, you know with Rabel and Drake, may Zach

1716
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania. This email is specifically for Mike and Paul.

1717
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,839
Speaker 2: Really looking forward to the upcoming podcast on the four Patriots.

1718
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: Personally my favorite Patriots team of the Dynasty one point

1719
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: zero era since they beat the Eagles. However, while he's here, please, please, please,

1720
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: and Caps do not squander your opportunity Friday to finally

1721
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: thank Matt Patricia for everything he did for us in

1722
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Please use your influence as the boss.

1723
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 4: Good.

1724
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 3: I would say I really enjoyed him on Edelmans and

1725
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 3: more more so just from my own private nerd them

1726
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 3: because when I was blogging, like you guys all know,

1727
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: I really like the defensive side of the ball, and

1728
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: a lot of when Matt Patricia was coaching here, I was,

1729
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: you know, we talked a lot about Nickel being the

1730
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 3: new base and these were like, you know, arguments that

1731
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: we would get in and people, you know, it was

1732
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: a three four or four three, and it would be like,

1733
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 3: it's not that anymore. And so Matt Patricia in a

1734
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: couple of parts of that podcast just kind of rattle through,

1735
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 3: you know, eight oh nine, ten eleven, like the evolution

1736
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 3: of the defense schematically, which to me, and this is

1737
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: maybe more a me thing, but I just I found

1738
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: it kind of validating some of the things he said.

1739
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 3: I was like, that's what I was seeing, you know.

1740
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 3: And the cleip to lead thing we've we've mentioned on

1741
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 3: the air. Once they got him, it felt like we're

1742
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 3: going man defense now, and it was that just to me,

1743
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: that was and he's crazy.

1744
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: The one that we were ahead of the curve when

1745
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 4: they lost to Sante Samuel and Paul Andy and Fred

1746
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: said they need a number one corner how many years

1747
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 4: in a row? Yeah, they got to get they got

1748
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: to replace that corner. They got to replace that ten eleven.

1749
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 4: Matt Patricia was telling you the same stuff that we

1750
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 4: were complaining about all that.

1751
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: It wasn't until maybe fourteen that they find it was.

1752
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 3: Twelve, Yeah, twelve when they got to leave.

1753
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: Went from age twelve.

1754
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: You know, they had the guy say it's Gilmore.

1755
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gilmore. But you know, it's crazy how prepared Matt

1756
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: Patricia was and just the detailed files that he keeps,

1757
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: and you know, I know what people call him a

1758
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: rocket scientist, but just he's obsessive about these things. And

1759
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 3: he was talking a little bit now about how he's

1760
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: using AI to start to like evolve his you know,

1761
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 3: how he covers the team. So I don't know, took

1762
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: a year off. I'm excited to talk to him tomorrow.

1763
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 3: And it was really interesting listening to him on the

1764
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 3: podcast before. I felt really, you know, prepared to talk

1765
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: to him tomorrow with a good background, so it'd be good,

1766
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: try to get the most that I can out him.

1767
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if I apologize for Fred or not,

1768
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 3: but we'll probably I think I think I'm under orders

1769
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 3: two thousand and four.

1770
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: Only let's go to the TPX Christians in LA. What's

1771
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: up Christian?

1772
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 9: Hey you guys, Good morning to you. A good afternoon

1773
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 9: as it is over there. So it seems like to

1774
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 9: me with the draft, probably not going to get a

1775
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 9: skilled player until the third round, right, like maybe at

1776
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 9: Dull Carter first round he's there, or Will Campbell and

1777
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 9: then vite versa.

1778
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: Well, you're making you're making an assumption that I don't

1779
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't no idea. I don't think. I don't know

1780
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 2: if that's true or not.

1781
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 9: I mean, from from what I'm hearing from what I'm

1782
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 9: reading everyone's you know, the mock drafts are saying that

1783
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 9: we're probably going to take Carter or Campbell in that

1784
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 9: first and second round, So it seems like we probably

1785
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 9: won't wind up with an offensive skill player until the

1786
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 9: third round. I was looking at.

1787
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: Carter and Campbell are first round picks, the top ten picks. Yeah,

1788
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: so what about the second round? Yeah, you could take

1789
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: a wide receiver. This, I mean, I'm not going to

1790
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: quibble by. What I mean is that skill player.

1791
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 9: Like it we take an offensive lineman or defensive lineman

1792
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 9: first round, and then bye versa an offensive lineman or

1793
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 9: defensive lineman second round, and then wait for the third

1794
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 9: round to get the skill position that we're that we're

1795
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 9: trying to finally get. So that's just what it's teams like.

1796
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that it is. I don't have a

1797
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 9: crystal ball.

1798
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 4: Agency.

1799
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1800
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, Do you guys see anyone that particularly stands out

1801
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 9: that you think would lie that far that we might

1802
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 9: get our hands on. For example, the kid that's on USC,

1803
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 9: who's who's the running back from USC. He happened to

1804
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 9: be their their number one receiver. Both from the backfield

1805
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 9: and from their wide receivers. Does that give you, guys,

1806
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 9: Jamier Gibbs, like, you know, feelings if the guys the

1807
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 9: number one receiver on USC, but he's their running back,

1808
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 9: maybe something that we should target.

1809
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if you're saying that he's slated

1810
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: for first and he could go to second, I still

1811
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 2: wouldn't pick.

1812
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 3: Him, you know, Yeah, No, they need receivers.

1813
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 9: I mean yeah, I mean he was the number one

1814
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 9: receiver on USC.

1815
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: They were a terrible team.

1816
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: They lost like six games.

1817
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that that's so.

1818
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: I mean, wasn't Remondre Stevenson like the leading receiver for

1819
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 4: the Patriots a couple of years ago? Like did he

1820
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 4: have did he give you any Jamier Gibbs Vibes.

1821
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 9: Well, you know what, he did, not as fast, but

1822
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 9: he was a multi.

1823
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 2: Talented so I do, Like, listen, if you want to

1824
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 2: talk about this guy in the fourth round, okay, but.

1825
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 4: Well that's what he's saying, like down in the third

1826
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 4: or fourth round when he thinks they're going to take

1827
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 4: that first.

1828
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: Out back then back in the forth Yeah sure, why not? Yep?

1829
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 4: But I don't get Jremier Gibbs Vibes just because there

1830
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 4: running back is the team's leading receiver, like Jamiir Gibbs

1831
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 4: is an outstanding player.

1832
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 2: Yeah I could.

1833
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 3: I grew with Paul, though, you gotta wait till free agency.

1834
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot of holes to be filled.

1835
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 4: What if they signed Stanley right now, right in free

1836
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 4: agency and signed T Higgins as a wide rear, Like, yeah,

1837
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 4: they could. There's a lot of things that can happen

1838
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 4: in the months before the draft that will change everything

1839
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 4: that we're talking about.

1840
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's just like.

1841
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 6: That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that they get two

1842
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 6: really good veteran wide receivers to add to room versus like,

1843
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 6: you have enough young guys in there already that are

1844
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 6: still developing, So I'm hoping that free agency would be

1845
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 6: the time when you get those skill players and maybe

1846
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,839
Speaker 6: you can focus more on the draft on the defense.

1847
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: It's just funny because everybody just skips right over free agency,

1848
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: Like you just have like two guys you T Higgins,

1849
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 3: and that's free agency. That's the only guy in free agency. Like,

1850
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 3: there's a lot of potential options and plenty that we're

1851
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 3: you know, probably not even highlighting yet, but there's a

1852
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 3: lot a lot of a lot of work to be

1853
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: done before you get to the draft and needs and

1854
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: projecting what they're gonna do.

1855
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina. Hey Kendall, Hey, Hey, you guys

1856
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: doing good.

1857
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 12: Get on one question for you guys. Paul might be

1858
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 12: best for this one. I'm going to radio I got

1859
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 12: credentials to my network for Super Bowl week next week,

1860
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 12: so I'll be down there in New Orleans next week,

1861
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 12: and we just want some advice where they had to

1862
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 12: handle Radio Row down there. You know what goes on

1863
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 12: at Radio Row and just how to approach it.

1864
01:21:54,760 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 2: So are you still there? Yeah, so you have credentials

1865
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: as a media member. Okay, so I'm taking you don't

1866
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: have like a table set up, You're just going to

1867
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: be wandering around.

1868
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 12: Well, the network get them apart.

1869
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 14: I think they do.

1870
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 12: I think they do have a table sit up, but

1871
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 12: I think I'm gonna be wandering around.

1872
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Too, Okay. Yeah, I mean so Radio Row is quite

1873
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: a thing. Yeah, I mean there's I'll be there.

1874
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 4: There are radio stations from markets all over the country

1875
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: and they they're on the air all the time. You know,

1876
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 4: I know that my shows will.

1877
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: Be there, So I would imagine your station has already

1878
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: set up interviews. But what happens is all these people

1879
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 2: like you know, uh, Joe Montana will come in, but

1880
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: he's sponsored by Sketchers, so Sketchers is the reason he's there.

1881
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 2: So they try to set up interviews with him with

1882
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 2: some of the bigger stations so that he can you know,

1883
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,919
Speaker 2: get in his plug and then they start talking football.

1884
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: But a lot of these guys have handlers and they

1885
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: have schedules, so you have to be if you're not

1886
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 2: at the table and you haven't already set up, you

1887
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: have to be aggressive. You have to get out there

1888
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 2: and try to drag them in or interview them, you know,

1889
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 2: right where they're standing waiting for something. You have to

1890
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 2: be aggressive. But you'll see guys. You'll see people like

1891
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 2: not just sports celebrities, but just celebrities in and out

1892
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,959
Speaker 2: all day and it really heats up, Like from Wednesday

1893
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 2: to Friday, it really heats up.

1894
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 4: Early Monday, you tell Kendall what the experience is like

1895
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 4: at the Super Bowl.

1896
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 2: Mike doesn't happen experience, But but that's the way that

1897
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: you have to be aggressive. And later in the week.

1898
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: It later in the week, it really heats up. Saturday.

1899
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: I think it's a it's a it's dead, right, Yeah, everybody's.

1900
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 4: Okay Monday through Friday, especially as the week goes on

1901
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 4: and it'll get busier and Fred I think very accurately

1902
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,839
Speaker 4: put it all together. There'll be all kinds of sports,

1903
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 4: retired sports guys. There'll be you know, Hollywood type people around.

1904
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 4: Every already has a handler. You know, there's a lot

1905
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 4: of pr folk for something. Yeah, it's it's it's quite

1906
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 4: a scene. It's it's overwhelming.

1907
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: I remember when we were in huh no, we're not going.

1908
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 4: Will be there, but she'll be working.

1909
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, thanks Kendall. I mean luck

1910
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 2: remember when we were at the Mall of Minnesota, Stern

1911
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: had a set up.

1912
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: I don't remember if I wasn't there, that's right. All

1913
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 3: I heard was everyone complaining about it.

1914
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: That was a good subtle left turn though with the head.

1915
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: I liked that. That was well done, calculated. It was

1916
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: well done. I don't think it was calculated, but it worked. Yeah. So, uh,

1917
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of fun. Radio it is Radio Row,

1918
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,600
Speaker 2: and it's not really Radio row anymore. No, it's a

1919
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 2: huge row.

1920
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 4: It's a huge room.

1921
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean they have like elaborate sets with everyone's got

1922
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 2: TV cameras.

1923
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: NFL, NFL Network and ESPM will have these huge you know,

1924
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 4: probably Fox Sports, we'll have like these huge podium that that. Yes,

1925
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 4: they'll have their area, and then everybody else is just

1926
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 4: like rows and rows of desks, and you have your

1927
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 4: setup and you have your you know, your backdrops and whatnot,

1928
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 4: so everybody knows what station is what and what market

1929
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 4: you're in.

1930
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1931
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 4: That's when I come over and I appear and I'm

1932
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 4: on in the middle of my set, and all of

1933
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:25,480
Speaker 4: a sudden, Stephen A. Smith comes over and it's like, Paula.

1934
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: And I got I gotta Paul, good to meet you.

1935
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: Brother Stith.

1936
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Really now, get out of my seat.

1937
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 2: You just you just said, Paul. It's pretty.

1938
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: These years later, friend of Stephen.

1939
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Ye, that was that was a while ago. I would

1940
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: imagine in Orleans, Uh, media rows in the convention center.

1941
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 2: Is that right? I would thank you?

1942
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably where I would put it.

1943
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, who's this? Uh? Somebody named Nicolette on the line.

1944
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Who's this? Hello?

1945
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 18: Is it me?

1946
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't know? Is your name Nicolette?

1947
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 6: Me?

1948
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: Nicolette used to work here.

1949
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 21: I was actually hoping to be anonymous because I was

1950
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 21: going to call in asking the girlies what they thought

1951
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 21: about Taylor Swiff's bangs.

1952
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift bangs, I am not allowed to have a

1953
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 3: comment takes on Taylor Swift lately.

1954
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 7: Are you sure you don't want to hear from him?

1955
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 6: No?

1956
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 21: Fred, what do you think about Taylor Swift's banks? Do

1957
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,879
Speaker 21: you think she's a little too old to have bangs?

1958
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh? My god? Who?

1959
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 6: No?

1960
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I love bangs on a girl, do you?

1961
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: I do not even joking?

1962
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: Like, is this something? So wait a minute. The last

1963
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: time I saw Taylor Swift was during the last game. Obviously,

1964
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: did she have the banks? Yeah? I didn't even notice.

1965
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: Yeah no, I didn't even notice, Like it just looked

1966
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 2: like Taylor Swift to me?

1967
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 6: Is that Guyko also has a take that she not

1968
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 6: only has bad bangs, but also bad outfits, like she

1969
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 6: can't dress.

1970
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 21: Oh a hundred percent, she dresses so horribly. You shouldn't

1971
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 21: be somebody who has that much money and walking into

1972
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 21: a stadium wearing what she wears.

1973
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 2: I know, but like if she all of a sudden

1974
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: started dressing like Shizza who is not confused.

1975
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 6: Like like that?

1976
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 2: But but that's not her style. Like she she should

1977
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: be true to herself. And I don't think she should

1978
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: go and start dressing like Beyonce.

1979
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, that.

1980
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 21: You're you're like love in the slippies and on the

1981
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 21: slippy side. But as somebody who was talking crab about

1982
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 21: tailor slip in a video the other day and then

1983
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 21: an earthquake happened, Oh no, that there's some weird butchery

1984
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 21: magic going on. I'm just gonna say, I don't think

1985
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 21: you should have bangs for longer than a year if

1986
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 21: you're above the age of twenty.

1987
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 2: Who was the girl on the sitcom This This Girl

1988
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: or she has? I like her.

1989
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 3: I like those.

1990
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: She's delightful and that was kind of like her things

1991
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: health too, I think. Yeah, So I don't know. I

1992
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: think I think it just depends it's pretty.

1993
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 6: I just have to be pretty only because she's dating

1994
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey in the Spotlight just so much that everyone

1995
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 6: has a hatred towards her right now.

1996
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: I think it's fixed knowing her. It's part of her

1997
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: next album that's coming out.

1998
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 6: It's gonna be titled Banks.

1999
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,679
Speaker 2: It's gonna be titled Banks.

2000
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 21: I wear my Banks.

2001
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: The side.

2002
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 21: I wear my banks with a hat.

2003
01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: I wear my banks everywhere. Wow.

2004
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 21: Now that's all I really had to say.

2005
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: I know, Taylor. I'm glad you said it here.

2006
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 6: Nico knows that our off season all right, thanks Nico.

2007
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 3: Different Yeah, ironically its best numbers ever because we mentioned

2008
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift.

2009
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 4: There's a million people increased by three percent.

2010
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 7: Hold on actual email.

2011
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 2: Hold on Ben Ben and Hershey, Pennsylvania Wright saying, he says,

2012
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: Paul first, I give no credence to the tinfoil hat

2013
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: theory that the NFL has raped or scripted in any way.

2014
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: That being said, your comments about the Swifties on Tuesday

2015
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: was grossly understating the financial impact that Taylor Swift has

2016
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 2: had on the NFL. A twenty twenty four report by

2017
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 2: Apex Marketing Group found that Swift's association with the NFL

2018
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 2: and her relationship with Travis Kelcey has generated approximately three

2019
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty one point five million in brand value

2020
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: for both the chiefs.

2021
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 4: And the NFL.

2022
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 2: An independent digital communications and marketing company reported that Swiss

2023
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: presence has contributed to an estimated increase of over two

2024
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 2: million female viewers if every NFL franchise had a Taylor Swift,

2025
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: maybe the league could finally afford better instant replay technology.

2026
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 4: Okay, there's only one Taylor Swiss, so I'm well aware

2027
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 4: of these reports. Yes, there's a reason why I took

2028
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 4: the number three hundred million as an example.

2029
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 2: I didn't just make that up.

2030
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 4: That's why, because I read the reports too. Yep, I'm

2031
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 4: telling you I don't believe them. I don't believe the numbers.

2032
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 4: I don't believe ratings. Fred will tell you this goes

2033
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 4: back twenty years. The ratings, the breathless press releases that

2034
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 4: we get that every game that's ever been competed is

2035
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 4: broke the previous record for the biggest TV audience ever.

2036
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 4: It's impossible to have every single game break a record,

2037
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 4: but yet that's what the NFL will lead you to believe. Okay,

2038
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 4: streaming Monday night, Sunday nights, Wednesday afternoon, every game is

2039
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 4: more than the previous one.

2040
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Except for I don't last week's championships were down.

2041
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 4: I don't believe the numbers, and I don't believe these

2042
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: quote unquote independents.

2043
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 2: Did a little bit.

2044
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 4: So how many more people? How many more people were

2045
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 4: at the game just out of curiosity? The answer zero.

2046
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 7: Because sales days and it was a lot of little girls.

2047
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Because the game.

2048
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 4: The game was sold out, like every other game is

2049
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 4: sold out. Have they been oh, yeah, no, that every

2050
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 4: game is sold out. Now they don't all show up,

2051
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: but the games are sold out. I feel like we

2052
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 4: had a lot of Since Robert Kraft has owned the team,

2053
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 4: every game has been sold out, right, that goes back

2054
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 4: to ninety four.

2055
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: But again they don't show up.

2056
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 8: The girl he showed up that day with signs that

2057
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 8: signs that said they all wanted to sailor under that

2058
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 8: specific suite.

2059
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 6: They all wanted to sit right below it, right, so you.

2060
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 2: Want to be able to turn around and look at

2061
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: So that's what they wanted to do.

2062
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 4: So how many seats would you say underneath the Taylor

2063
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:10,440
Speaker 4: Swift sweet.

2064
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Not three hundred million?

2065
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 4: I'm going to guess there's not three hundred million.

2066
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 8: Another number accurate, But I don't I don't think you

2067
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 8: can deny that there's been an influx like Kylie Kells

2068
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 8: Young Podcast.

2069
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Of Young Men. Yes, I would absolutely say that.

2070
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 7: That's why why do people even know.

2071
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 4: Don't even get me on the side topic of podcasts.

2072
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 4: Don't even get me on the ridiculous notion. Lou Holtz

2073
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 4: is trying to tell me that eighty million people have

2074
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 4: downloaded this. I do not believe those numbers at all. Ever,

2075
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous. If everybody was making what they claimed to

2076
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: be making on a podcast, no one would do anything.

2077
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: But podcast has podcasts that make a lot of money.

2078
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 4: It's very very And let me see what happens, like, say,

2079
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 4: actually a year of these so called you know, Joe

2080
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 4: Rogan's podcast.

2081
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: Is ridiculous, the barstool ones.

2082
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 4: Let's see what happens with all these other ones that

2083
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 4: are claiming that they do they do better. We'll see

2084
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 4: if they're still here in five years. But anyway, there

2085
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 4: is absolutely more young women interested in the NFL because

2086
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 4: of Taylor Swift. That's an undeniable fact. I just don't

2087
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 4: think it puts a dent into the the overall number.

2088
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't think it's adding three hundred plus million in revenue.

2089
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's adding a significant amount. The rating

2090
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 4: for the Sunday's game will be very close to the

2091
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 4: rating for less the.

2092
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 2: Challenge in the Super Bowl before that, the challenge for

2093
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: the NFL, and maybe you can call it the opportunity

2094
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 2: is converting these young women from Swift fans to NFL fans.

2095
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happening. That's Fred's got a better

2096
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 2: argument than me. What happens.

2097
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: It's so shortsighted. If Travis Kelsey year, are they gonna

2098
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna give me breathless rep what's that they've dropped

2099
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 4: by three hundred million because Taylor Swift is no longer involved.

2100
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 4: I'll guarantee you you're not going to get that because

2101
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 4: Travis Travis Kelsey is probably going to retire after the

2102
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 4: game Sunday. So you lose Taylor Swift, are you're gonna

2103
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 4: lose them undred and thirty five million in revenue? Does

2104
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 4: anybody believe that that will happen?

2105
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 3: What if he cheated on?

2106
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 2: But also, it's not really revenue, it's brand values, right,

2107
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: that's my point.

2108
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 4: That's my point. Yes, in equity, Yeah, nonsense and the buzzwords,

2109
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 4: and we're going to effort that.

2110
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: It's like you're in a you're a meeting.

2111
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 4: It's like going back to last year's head coach with

2112
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 4: all the buzzwords and the silos and things that don't mean.

2113
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 8: Well, it's a real number, specific revenue to it. If

2114
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 8: it's physical people like viewers, it's hard to.

2115
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: Catch well a real numbers. City chief came out and said,

2116
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 2: or NFL properties came out and said, we have X

2117
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: amount more.

2118
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 22: You know Kelsey j Travis Kelsey, you're so young women,

2119
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 22: that's a real number and that I would buy, Like,

2120
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 22: I'm not buy the shirt numbers.

2121
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 2: My guess is.

2122
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 4: Travis Kelsey shirt sales have increased. That would be a

2123
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 4: pretty safe guest for me.

2124
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Can I get back to Taylor Swiftfield about everybody wearing

2125
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: her boyfriend's jersey?

2126
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm much more I'm much more interested in this, this

2127
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 4: larger thing with is this a thing like Taylor swift

2128
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 4: can't dress like that's a common like women think questionable.

2129
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2130
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 3: I just like her music.

2131
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 2: But even when even when she dresses good song, even

2132
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: when she tries to scantily, like you know, when she's

2133
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 2: on stage and you know, she looks like somebody that's

2134
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 2: a band major.

2135
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 4: Atte like, she she doesn't really that's a great band majorrette.

2136
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 2: Like, she doesn't really have the style of Beyonce for example,

2137
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 2: you know, and but that's not her, that's not what.

2138
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 7: She's more of the geeky girl in the play patterns.

2139
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,839
Speaker 8: Her best style was when she performed at the Victoria's

2140
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 8: Secret Fashion show and she's so tall that she looked

2141
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 8: like she could have been one of the models, and

2142
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 8: it was great.

2143
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 7: But if she's left to her own devices or.

2144
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 6: I feel like this is taking me back to the

2145
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 6: Devil Wears product, which is one of my favorite movies.

2146
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 6: And when Anne Hathaway was hired, and yeah, she also

2147
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 6: probably dressed. She dressed like Taylor Swift, not very well,

2148
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 6: and she got an argument and was just like, I

2149
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 6: just think that style is a preference. It's like, no,

2150
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 6: it's not a preference.

2151
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 3: You can dress.

2152
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 8: Everyone like oversized Louis Vauton, like giant jacket that looks

2153
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 8: like it was Travis's like off White, probably rolling over

2154
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 8: in his grave, rest in peace.

2155
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 7: And it's like red tights with like combat.

2156
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 8: I just don't get out. It's like five years behind

2157
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 8: and it's still even five years ago.

2158
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 6: I also think that some people think that they can

2159
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 6: dress because they're wearing something expensive, and just because you

2160
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 6: put something expensive doesn't mean you know how to dress

2161
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 6: or style it appropriately.

2162
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying I know I like it.

2163
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 4: Fred's favorite check.

2164
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: When it comes to sport style logo, it's a topic.

2165
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 2: It's not just for Taylor SWI fans, the players themselves.

2166
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Arrival photos are really important to the players these days

2167
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: because they're wearing their own stuff or they're being asked

2168
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: to wear stuff by you know, a local designer or

2169
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: a big time it's a big point. It's and I

2170
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 2: love it. I think it's a great it's it's a

2171
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: it's an added feature of the NFL and pro sports

2172
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 2: these days. It's great.

2173
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 4: But that's the Tomar point about. It might be a

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Speaker 4: stylish outfit that she's wearing, but she shouldn't be wearing it.

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Speaker 4: Or like, as you talk about the players, how many

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01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 4: times used to play like wow, that's a really like

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01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 4: that's a really cool suit, but not everybody can wear it, Like.

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01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 2: An offensive lineman can't be wearing.

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01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 8: Showing up in like a key on white outfit would

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01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 8: be I would pay money to see it, even if

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01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 8: it was just like, uh, you know when Ryan Fitzpatrick

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01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 8: came out with like the chain on and.

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01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 4: Christian from but Christian might be able to pull it off,

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01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 4: whereas you know, it looks totally different on Cooper Cup.

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01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 2: You know, remember when Lebron wore his suit with the

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01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 2: shorts and like, you know, we stormed out of the

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01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:41,560
Speaker 2: press wearing these shorts. Lebron a few years ago, like

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01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: he had like a regular suit on, but it was

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01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 2: short pants.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of those styles are awful, but

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01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not the demographic, you know, fifty six

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01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 4: year old white guy, Like I don't get it, you.

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01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Know, but well it's not for me.

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 8: That's like when we were in Germany, I was wearing

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01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 8: a really chic, all white outfit with like a long

2196
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 8: and an unfortunate situation.

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01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 4: Say so herself.

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01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,440
Speaker 2: She was wearing a really chic outfish well killing.

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Speaker 8: Who the billionaire says it, But I spill the MORELSS stories.

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01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 8: An unfortunate situation happened and I got red wine spilt

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Speaker 8: all over my outfit and it was all white, and

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01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 8: we go back to the team hotel in Germany and

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01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,480
Speaker 8: I'm like, I look ridiculous.

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01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 7: This is so embarrassing, and security Brian is like, I.

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01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 8: Don't know if one of the players rolled up on

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01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 8: game day wear and that would probably look normal, flattered

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01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 8: all over.

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01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 7: You know, It's like that's a good way to look

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01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 7: at it.

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01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: It's the wine line.

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01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 6: Like that, there we go the wine line.

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01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 2: I like that conversation. I'm learning something.

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01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm just surprised because I just like and I also

2214
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 3: learned that Mike likes Banks.

2215
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan, like to get bang. Everybody's

2216
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 2: got a type, Johnny and Madtown writes in I hate

2217
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: to be that guy. Actually, I don't give us one space.

2218
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 2: I beg of you one where we don't have to

2219
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: hear about Taylor's She's Voldemort from here on out. We

2220
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 2: don't say their name.

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01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means.

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01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: That's from Harry Potter.

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01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: Did you realize that you had quoted? You did a

2224
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift song quote while you're doing your things should

2225
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 3: not be left to her own devices. She's left your

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01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 3: own a devices? Like were you working in quotes the

2227
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 3: whole time? I didn't even realize.

2228
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 2: I think, oh, that happens to me all the time.

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01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,440
Speaker 7: Is just embedded in my brain, and it'scious.

2230
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 2: Ford and Savannah says, the only way that three hundred

2231
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: million more fans are going to tune into the NFL

2232
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 2: is if the Kansas City Chiefs turn into Fleetwood Mac

2233
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 2: of the NFL. And Swift has an affair with my

2234
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 2: homes man, I can't say I'm not rooting for that

2235
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: level of drama. Well, that's that's the danger with those

2236
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 2: That's that's what's going to bring the bills down. You

2237
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: watched Imagine Imagine that it's not gonna last her three

2238
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 2: way affair and she turned.

2239
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 15: To h.

2240
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Speaker 2: Tony Braxton online too. This is how the NBA works.

2241
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 6: Is not cute.

2242
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 7: Have you guys seen his brother? He doesn't have a relationship.

2243
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: You're not five years old. Alert Tyler get a real

2244
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: haircut home.

2245
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 3: It's like, it's like, I think, I think he's got

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01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 3: terrible quarterback style. I think he's amazing, he's a great player,

2247
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 3: but just to look at him aesthetically, and I love, like,

2248
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 3: I love aesthetics. I'm like, he just like the head

2249
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 3: thing and the bad helmet and like it's too high on.

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Speaker 2: He does this.

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01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 3: I love that that picture right there, that is the

2252
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 3: perfect quarterback esthetic.

2253
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 6: I do feel like you have to have a certain

2254
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 6: level of swag to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: He just don't care. He's great, Like, but you know.

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01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 4: It's just like, and I will say that his style

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01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 4: might not be but he's got quarterback swag, and I

2258
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 4: agree with every great quarterback has it have it.

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01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Like Manning his head cop to the side like Manning

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01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 3: had weird kind of ticks to like. That was another

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01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 3: thing about Manning, Like a Brady to me was just perfect,

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01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 3: like he just looked quarterback.

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01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 4: I bet that's the quarterback.

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01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 3: No question with Brady and I I mean Manning too,

2265
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 3: but just I never like Manny's face mask.

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01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: He was always you know, jumping in the pocket.

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01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 7: You're saying is the Manning brothers are not as fortunate?

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01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 4: Don't even get me on. No, I mean like Aaron Rodgers.

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01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 3: I think.

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01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Right now, Joe Burrow, of course, Joe Burrow to Joe cool.

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01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 3: I think Lamar Jackson's got great style.

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01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 8: Like he looks the part Hurts and his fiance are like.

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01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 8: The talk about good styles.

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01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 2: Is almost too cool. I was too cool. I have

2275
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 2: so chill.

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01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I hate those new helmets without the

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01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 3: bar across the top. They look stupid. Don't wear them

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01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 3: anyone ever.

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01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Why are you so fix like.

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01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 4: He's like the helmet police.

2281
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 3: And healthy quarterback aesthetics?

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01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 2: Please?

2283
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.

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01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 6: In our meeting last week, who said that he thinks

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01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 6: that the silver pants are like just overused.

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01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: To your dead.

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01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 4: Ye, going for it, especially with the white pants, the

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01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 4: uniform that doesn't match the better than blue. The blue

2289
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 4: with the silver pants is fine. White with the silver

2290
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 4: pants doesn't doesn't match in the pants just look dirty.

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01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 2: If you ask, what.

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01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 4: Very what if we were those Jerseysiu.

2293
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 2: Bell writes in what does everyone think of Pasta's outfit

2294
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: he wears to the rink for every nationally televised game. Well,

2295
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: i'd have to pay a check. I love.

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01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 3: I think you gotta like you gotta have you know,

2297
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 3: you gotta appreciate like the Western, the Eastern European kind

2298
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 3: of stylity that he rocks.

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01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 4: So, I don't know.

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01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 3: I always give those guys a little.

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01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:31,440
Speaker 6: Like the glass gonna wear different brackets for like Celtics,

2302
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 6: like NBA arrivals, NFL arrivals, and then hockey like screwing

2303
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 6: around different buckets.

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01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally ye.

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01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: Robert writes in Uh, it's great to hear Tamara's voice

2306
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 2: on the show once again. I started to get worried

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01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 2: that I missed an announcement that she was moving on. Uh,

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01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: we have an announcement?

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 6: What was that?

2310
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 2: On Tuesday? Show. I love the Mike Paul exchange about

2311
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 2: Josh's role in Brady's development? Is this the first time

2312
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,599
Speaker 2: that they have had such a heated exchange? High five

2313
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: after the show. I say this in jest, as I

2314
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: was fully anticipating dudes quoting Raliota from Goodfellas to end

2315
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: the show. How How am I funny?

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01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 3: That was fun? It was fun?

2317
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 4: Just to be clear, that's a Joe Peshy line on

2318
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 4: a radio funny scared somebody like that?

2319
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 3: Like I love that character in that thing, Like he

2320
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 3: just all of a sudden turns and is that much

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01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 3: of like oh God, Like no, dude.

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01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 2: We were all you know, you got it all wrong. Boy,

2323
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 2: he knows what he said right right, and you're like

2324
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:38,520
Speaker 2: getting uncomfortable.

2325
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 3: And that's why I think it was satisfying when they

2326
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 3: finally got him at the end, you know, you just

2327
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 3: do Finally the bad.

2328
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,679
Speaker 2: Guy was going, I want to go back to something.

2329
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: I want to actually turn back to football for a second.

2330
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:53,839
Speaker 2: Eldred said something and uh an email kind of triggered

2331
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: it about a rumor about a trade.

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01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 4: Joe Milton to the Raiders. I hadn't heard that. I

2333
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 4: had heard a lot of Joe. Milton's gonna, you know,

2334
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 4: get us vintage Tom Brady in a trade. I'm sorry

2335
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 4: if I'm going to be a little skeptical of that.

2336
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 2: But do you think that somebody liked the Raiders, Let's

2337
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 2: say they bring in uh, Russell Wilson, like, maybe they

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01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 2: want to get a guy like Milton to kind of

2339
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 2: develop behind him.

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01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 3: I'd like to ask, I'd like to ask, why would

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01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 3: you just draft one that? I'd like to ask, because Milton,

2342
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 3: you can He's got an arm, He's got an unbelievable Yeah.

2343
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 4: So maybe they But if you're just looking for a

2344
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 4: developmental mobile quarterback, just draft one. Why are you going

2345
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 4: to give up a rear?

2346
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 2: Because maybe you see something in Milton specifically that you

2347
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: say this guy can do it.

2348
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 6: Well, they're not going to be able to trade up

2349
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 6: and get one a good one right now?

2350
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 4: The Raiders. Yeah, yeah, Now Fred's saying that they will

2351
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 4: sign like Russell Wilson to play, but they want Milton

2352
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 4: as a backup.

2353
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: I don't know why you want to trade not a backup,

2354
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: a developmental future guy.

2355
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't know why you would trade for that.

2356
01:45:59,080 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

2357
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's I mean because you love them.

2358
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Well, then why are you signing Russell Wilson just trade

2359
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 2: from Joe Milton is not ready yet? Why do you

2360
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:07,839
Speaker 2: have to be so difficult?

2361
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 4: Because I don't think. I just I can't get past

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01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 4: the fact that he's like the two undredth pick of

2363
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 4: the draft and play the game and now he's worth

2364
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 4: giving up resources to be your developmental guy. That's better

2365
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 4: than anybody coming out of the draft.

2366
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 2: Now, what about a fifth round pick? Is that too

2367
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 2: much to ask? I mean, I wouldn't do it if

2368
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 2: I were the Raiders, but I don't know.

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01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 4: Someone might, Okay.

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01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 6: I also, I'm just intrigued. I was shocked that they

2371
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 6: hired such an old coach because I was expecting, like, Okay,

2372
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 6: if you're drafting a young quarterback, wouldn't you want your

2373
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 6: coach to be around.

2374
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 4: To develop and think they're going to be able to

2375
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 4: draft a young quarterback. That's the problem the way they are.

2376
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the Pete Carroll Higer.

2377
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 2: Was it was strange, and if it's true that it

2378
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 2: was a Tom Brady choice.

2379
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 4: Is in question.

2380
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: So here's one that I'm going to kill my show.

2381
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right, they're big on this.

2382
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 4: Rather have Tom Brady. Why why didn't Robert Kraft do

2383
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 4: this for Tom Brady?

2384
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Why didn't.

2385
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 4: So he his first big move is to sign Pete

2386
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 4: Carroll as the coach. And this is the thing that

2387
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,679
Speaker 4: you're trying to tell me is why we should be lamenting.

2388
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: This is our fomo.

2389
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 4: Like they got Pete Carroll, Like, why on earth would

2390
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 4: you lose an ounce of sleep like that could have

2391
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 4: been us.

2392
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 6: Seriously, I thought they were going to try to get

2393
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson. So when they got Pete Carroll, was.

2394
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 4: Like, huh right, why maybe they tried Maybe Tom Brady's

2395
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, gravitas could get you the best coach on

2396
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 4: the market.

2397
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: No, what got you?

2398
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll? Who isn't I'm not diminishing his career, but

2399
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 4: he's seventy three years old. What are you going to

2400
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 4: get out of Pete Carroll? And now they're trying to

2401
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 4: link him with a quarterback, Well, now Tom Brady, who

2402
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 4: probably he'll probably want a guy that he knows that

2403
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 4: you know, he can be comfortable with, you know, like, oh,

2404
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers makes all the sense of what this is?

2405
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: What's like this is like inspiring confidence. This is the plan.

2406
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 4: This is the plan that you think we should be

2407
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 4: lamenting missing out on Pete Carroll and Aaron Rodgers. Those

2408
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 4: are my guys.

2409
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 2: I heard it another trade. AJ writes in he hears

2410
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 2: a rumor about a t J. Watt trade.

2411
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: So I saw this on online. I don't think it

2412
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 4: was reputable anyway. And I got the text from my son,

2413
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 4: DJ texted me yesterday. Are we really in line to

2414
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 4: get t J Watt? I go, I don't think sobody,

2415
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 4: Ah damn, yeah, take them.

2416
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2417
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 6: While I would like that, I would also.

2418
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 3: Not like that, Oh oh right, uncle Mike, and you

2419
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 3: take it.

2420
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: I would not like that we were going to say

2421
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 2: I actually have some ins information.

2422
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 6: There's no way I feel they're gonna let him walk

2423
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 6: out the door. I feel like he's the type person

2424
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 6: that's going to be like a Steeler for life.

2425
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I mean, I love the people are

2426
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 3: throwing these big splashes out there because I think that's

2427
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 3: what the team needs. And it's hard to project what

2428
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 3: stories can happen. You know, they usually come out of nowhere.

2429
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys can all talk to that of

2430
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 3: you know trades that you're like, we just traded rich.

2431
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's never the it's never the people that

2432
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,840
Speaker 3: you're really speculating on. It's like, Wow, this deal just

2433
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 3: kind of came together. I think that's what they need

2434
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 3: this offseason.

2435
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 2: Jeremiah says, I totally agree with the whole quarterback swag thing.

2436
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 2: Whenever Mac Jones walked across the stage the draft night,

2437
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: I knew he was going to be a rough tenure

2438
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 2: in New England. Yeah, it's just a look.

2439
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 3: I'd also put it on.

2440
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 2: I need to speak to the manager.

2441
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 3: Like Willia McGuinness is like just the perfect outside linebacker

2442
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:35,560
Speaker 3: fifty five, like the old school, Like I just I

2443
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 3: love that.

2444
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 2: I love it. Eduardo says last podcast, there were no

2445
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 2: ladies and Deuce was looking mighty fresh. The beautiful ladies

2446
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 2: Alex and Tamara are both on and Deuce is in

2447
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 2: an old hoodie. Come on, man, do better?

2448
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 3: No sorry, as a little throwback, it's a nice that's

2449
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 3: actually a nice hoodie.

2450
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2451
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,879
Speaker 3: Does anyone want to guess? So this a Bill Belichick?

2452
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 6: You know, I'm the hoody guy looking very Bill BELI is.

2453
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 4: It's old.

2454
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 3: I didn't cut it off yet, but there was a

2455
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 3: famous playoff loss in this particular hoodie. It was cut off.

2456
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 3: Does anyone care to Adventure guests on which playoff loss

2457
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick wore this particular hoodie with a cut off exactly,

2458
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 3: this just cut off.

2459
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: It had to be Ravens.

2460
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, wow, earlier, No, really, twenty ten he was

2461
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 3: still with twenty ten Jets. I was literally one game

2462
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 3: changed in twenty twelve. Twenty twelve was when Rebok went

2463
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 3: away and and Nike took over. But yeah, two famous

2464
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 3: things with this one was, yeah, he wore this in

2465
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 3: the Jets game. It was cut off. You might remember

2466
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 3: him yelling at Patrick Chunk about calling that fake punt

2467
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 3: that fired on the sidelines. And then in twenty seventeen,

2468
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 3: long after Rebok was no longer the hoodie supplier of

2469
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 3: the NFL, in the playoff game against the Titans, he

2470
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: had this on underneath his jacket. And I'm at like

2471
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 3: a bar me and fits. He did like a bar

2472
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 3: party for the game, and everyone's excited about the playoff game,

2473
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 3: and I'm.

2474
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 2: Like, he's wearing a rebold hoodie. In twenty seventh, because.

2475
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 3: You're not supposed to, let you.

2476
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 7: Know, he couldn't show the old logo logo.

2477
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 3: So I don't know that was that was, you know,

2478
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 3: that's a little insight into my nerd.

2479
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 7: Have you had that this whole time? Or was that

2480
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 7: an eBay final?

2481
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 3: No, I've had this one. This is personally I bought

2482
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 3: this actually in my own mind's in good condition. Yeah,

2483
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 3: pretty good, pretty good.

2484
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 7: So she has never seen the Drive since.

2485
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 6: Seems to be into coaches style. What's a freaking style?

2486
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: Is guy.

2487
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 3: Windbreaker sleepless wim breaker with like a tight long sleeve on.

2488
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's definitely yeah, it's definitely got to

2489
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 3: look quick.

2490
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got to look can tell he's like giving

2491
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 7: finance bro.

2492
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 3: He's got the long arms.

2493
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 2: I think that's.

2494
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: You know what I just thought though, long arms, Right,

2495
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 3: it's probably the opposite of Belichick always said to cut

2496
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 3: the hoodies off because he had short arms. So I

2497
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,600
Speaker 3: think Mike go's vest with the long sleeves so that

2498
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 3: his arms have, you know, are free to accentuate his

2499
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 3: arms accentuate him. You know, when he does remember the

2500
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 3: push ups before the playoff game I did.

2501
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 2: I didn't care for that.

2502
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 3: We should ask him about that.

2503
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,639
Speaker 4: Now I'll be consistent and say I agree with Fred.

2504
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 4: It was a heart old move. Fred will now love

2505
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 4: it when he does it. Opening Day now, what was

2506
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 4: the last Chargers coach name? Brandon Steele Brand.

2507
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 3: And Staley doing the cat cows on the sideline with

2508
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 3: like his back arching and the it's a real yoga term.

2509
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 3: I know, thank you.

2510
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 6: That was from I did cat cows this morning.

2511
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 17: I know the term.

2512
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 2: I know the term, but no, I don't know what

2513
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 2: it is.

2514
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 6: It's not something you should be doing on the side

2515
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 6: of you know, No.

2516
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 3: Definitely not.

2517
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 2: It's it's very Yeah, no, I'll hurt myself.

2518
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 3: All the ladies would get a little hot and bothered. Paul.

2519
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 2: Let's get to the line a couple more calls before

2520
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 2: we have to call it quits. Uh. Today, Robert is

2521
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 2: in Henderson? Is that in Las Vegas, Nevada? Yeah, Robert, Robert,

2522
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 2: Robert is no longer there. Three to one, we'll going Henderson, Nevada.

2523
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 2: We'll go to l. A. Nelson? What's up?

2524
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 6: L A.

2525
01:52:52,720 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: Nelson? All right? Nelson, don't swear talking about.

2526
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 14: Losing a little bit over there? I know?

2527
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2528
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 3: Is that it?

2529
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 10: No?

2530
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 2: One more thing?

2531
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:12,560
Speaker 15: What?

2532
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 6: What? What?

2533
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 9: What's everybody thinking.

2534
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 14: That Kelsey better than Gronk.

2535
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 9: I don't think Kelsey is better than Gronk. Bronk is

2536
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 9: the best tight end ever, and that the hopefully I

2537
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 9: wondered wonderful day.

2538
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Nelson.

2539
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 6: Uh.

2540
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: I think the best all around is Gronk is better.

2541
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 2: But man, you can't argue with Kelsey's production and his winning.

2542
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: I mean, who's going to deny that? No, I mean

2543
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 2: it's it's unbelievable the numbers he's put up.

2544
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,759
Speaker 6: Do you think that he would have the same production

2545
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 6: on another team like anywhere else?

2546
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think Patrick Mahomes has a lot to do

2547
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 2: with that, obviously, and Andy reed, But you could say

2548
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 2: the same thing with Gronk, like if he was with

2549
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:53,560
Speaker 2: Cleveland all those years or you know what, do you

2550
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 2: have had? No, of course not and a lot of people.

2551
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 2: The thing they're pointing to with Kelsey mostly is his

2552
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 2: playoff production in the last seventeen games, eighteen touchdowns, amazing,

2553
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:08,759
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred yards. It's it's like in the biggest games,

2554
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: you can't deny that. So like, let's give him his

2555
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 2: due and he also let's not get this particular game.

2556
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 4: I don't think he holds a candle to Gronk overall,

2557
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 4: but in this particular game he blocked really well too.

2558
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 2: Now, if Gronk was as healthy as Kelsey has been.

2559
01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 2: Not that Kelsey hasn't had injuries, but Gronk had big

2560
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,440
Speaker 2: injuries and it stunted his career a little bit, absolutely

2561
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 2: broke his army to embraced the rest of them.

2562
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,640
Speaker 3: I mean knee that Cleveland kneed.

2563
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: We probably would have had another Super Bowl if he

2564
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 2: wasn't hurt.

2565
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 3: Definitely.

2566
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: Maybe.

2567
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what it would have been like in

2568
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 3: Indianapolis for you guys, but I'm sure it would have.

2569
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Been James Pettigrew in Indianapolis. It was a great week, Joe,

2570
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: James Pettigrew the most interesting Patriots fan in the world.

2571
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 2: Rights in. When Joe Burrow smokes a cigar, it looks

2572
01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 2: like he earned it. When Mac Jones smokes his gar,

2573
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 2: it looks like he stole it from his dad's humidor.

2574
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 2: I will check.

2575
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 6: I will say everyone should not be allowed to do

2576
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 6: that after a big win.

2577
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 2: Smoker.

2578
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 6: Yes, you have to have earned it, as he said,

2579
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 6: but also have the swag to do it like just

2580
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 6: everyone does not look right doing it.

2581
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 2: I know it's true, you can't do it. Not everyone

2582
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: can do like he looked good in college.

2583
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I will never forget his senior night doing

2584
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 6: that like.

2585
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 7: I never will yep, the camera Lsu had too on him,

2586
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 7: like so good.

2587
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 3: I stole one of my dad's cigars once in front

2588
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 3: of my friends and smoked and I threw up.

2589
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:40,760
Speaker 2: Well because you inhale and inhale, I'm cool. Sorry, guys,

2590
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 2: I go home. I smoke. Let me tell you, Cincinnati

2591
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve Joe Burrow. He needs to be in New York,

2592
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 2: like he should not be.

2593
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 3: And me and Matt we gotta love him because he's

2594
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 3: a major star wars nerd. I think it's so funny

2595
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 3: he bought like like a Batman suit, like he's by

2596
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 3: a ball feel like, I just love that he's a nerd.

2597
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 3: But everybody thinks he's super cool.

2598
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 2: I love it. Does he have a girlfriend? Yeah, that's

2599
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 2: why I knew he has a thing for.

2600
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 7: Women named Olivia.

2601
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 3: A roster as well.

2602
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 7: He had his long term girlfriend was.

2603
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 8: Named Olivia, and then some people were speculating they broke up,

2604
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 8: and then he had a break in and a sports

2605
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 8: illustrated model named Olivia is the one who was the first.

2606
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 7: Reporter to the police.

2607
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,280
Speaker 3: What was her, guys, though, Like, what was she supposed

2608
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 3: to be? Like, wasn't she supposed to be like his

2609
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 3: house sitters.

2610
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 2: They said that she.

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 7: Worked for him. Sports Illustrated.

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01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: Working the words of a former coach. He said it,

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01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 2: Roberts and Henderson. He's calling back, what's up, Robert? Hello?

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01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 14: Sorry it might be late in the show.

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01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 13: I got disconnected. But my question for you today, if

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01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 13: the chief three p is it officially, is it better

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01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:03,839
Speaker 13: than what the Patriots did? Is it a better dynasty?

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01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:04,680
Speaker 13: As Andy Reid?

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01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 9: Does he pass Bill Belichick.

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01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 13: I don't think Patrick Mahomes quite little past Tom Bray

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01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 13: with this repeat, but he's definitely like, keep climbing the ladder,

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01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 13: and I want to know what you're comparison.

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01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 2: So they Yeah, the Patriots did not repeat, So if

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01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 2: the Chiefs do that, it's something the Patriots never did.

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01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 2: But the Patriots sustained the type of success winning Super

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,240
Speaker 2: Bowls for twenty years, and that's something that to this time,

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01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs have not done yet. So let's see, right now,

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: the Patriots dynasty is better than the Chiefs dynasty, but

2629
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are on track if they keep doing this

2630
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 2: to be better.

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01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 4: I totally agree that's one hundred percent what it is.

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01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 4: I would just say that Mahomes is ahead of schedule.

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01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Mahomes is done so far and his time

2634
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,839
Speaker 4: as the starter is greater than what Brady did at

2635
01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 4: the same time.

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01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 3: But think about it in perspective too, like the Chiefs Mahomes,

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01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 3: Andy Reid winning like the twenty thirty six super Bowl,

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01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 3: you know, like that's the longevity, which look it could

2639
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 3: they might bang out five, six, seven of them before

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01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 3: twenty thirty whatever, and it's better. But still just that's

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01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:07,879
Speaker 3: what's overwhelmed.

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01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: But what happens if they don't have a ten year gap?

2643
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I're just different.

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01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 2: That would be my concern. No, I'm saying as a

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01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 2: Patriots fan, I would worry about that even that ten

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01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 2: year gap. Within the gap with three were super Bowls

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01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 2: that they got to when they lost, and a lot

2648
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: of AFC championships that they were in. So it wasn't

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 2: like they stopped winning during that gap. No, no, no.

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01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 4: But my point being right now, like I think it's

2651
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 4: seven years, Yeah, seven years, Mahomes has three titles, same

2652
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 4: as Brady, but also two other tips to the Super Bowl, yep,

2653
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 4: And that's better than what Brady did. Sure, So what

2654
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 4: if he keeps doing this, then he's going to be better.

2655
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 2: But I know, but people just dismissed that as out

2656
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 2: of hand. Is my point, that can't happen. Happen. I

2657
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: got news for you.

2658
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 4: As long as he's healthy, it can happen, right right,

2659
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 4: I agree, Like they're not just going to miss the

2660
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 4: playoffs like which I think you might have predicted last

2661
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 4: year when their window closed.

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01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 2: They started out slowly. I was onto something that was

2663
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 2: two years ago out That's what.

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01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying last year, not this year.

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01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm still going. But here's the thing about the Patriots dynasty.

2666
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 2: You know, in the twenty year span, even if you

2667
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: look at the dynasties of the past, the forty nine Ers,

2668
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 2: the Steelers, the Cowboys, they didn't do what the Patriots did.

2669
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,879
Speaker 2: So Patriots redefined what it means to be a dynasty

2670
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 2: in the NFL. And it's the duration and the winning

2671
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: throughout that. And so could the Chiefs do that? Yes

2672
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 2: they can, Yes they can. They're on track to do

2673
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 2: it and to do better, I don't think. But there's

2674
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 2: a lot. There's a lot that can happen between now

2675
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 2: and then, and that's why the odds are against it.

2676
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 4: But I don't see if it's if you're just going

2677
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 4: to go strictly, you know, chronological. It's the amount of years.

2678
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 4: I don't think Mahomes will play until his mid forties.

2679
01:59:58,760 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 2: I don't think.

2680
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 4: I think he might win more than Brady did before

2681
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 4: he's done. That's why he won't play into his mid forties.

2682
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 4: That's probably because I don't think he has any interest

2683
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 4: in it.

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02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think Andy Reid is

2685
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 6: going to be coaching.

2686
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:08,560
Speaker 4: Don't think.

2687
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll want to do that. Really, I

2688
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 2: think he loves football, Yeah he does, but I don't

2689
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 2: think he wants to play when he's forty five. Well,

2690
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 2: see if he can't be wrong. Yeah, all right, that's

2691
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:20,680
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