WEBVTT - 04/28/21 DPS Hour 3 Andy Staples 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.880 Sports Radio Final Hour in this Wednesday, Dan and the 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:09.760 Dannett's Dan Patrick Show. Come on in stay a while 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:14.800 if you're just joining us. Nice little tweet today, FBS 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.960 commissioners considering expanding the college football playoffs from four schools 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.920 up to double digit teams. And the quote attached from 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.920 a source I sensed twelve teams as building support. Andy 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.720 Staples covers college football PEO will join us coming up 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.879 in a couple of minutes to talk about this expanding 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.400 the playoffs. ESPN has the contract. I believe it goes 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.040 through twenty twenty six, so you would have to renegotiate that. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.279 As PAULI is going right now, you'd be ripping up 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.440 that condy at the bank. Yes, And if you were 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.640 wondering what the matchups would be if a twelve team 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:58.480 playoff existed last year, Bama Coastal Carolina, Notre Name, Indiana, Clemson, Oklahoma, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:04.000 Ohio State, Cincinnati A and M Georgia, Iowa State against Florida, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:07.080 and maybe you would get a buy. I would imagine 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.959 if you went the top two seeds would get a buy. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.920 I'm guessing that. But you still have great matchups here. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.840 And I know Nick Saban came out yesterday. He was 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.200 interviewed by Paul Feinbaum and he said he wasn't in 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.800 favor of expanding the playoffs because what that would do 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.679 to the bowl games. Coach is wrong. It would make 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.840 the bowl games more, bowl games more meaningful because you 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.960 would play in a bowl game to get to another 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.039 bowl game, to get to another bowl game, and then 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.880 you'd play in the National Championship. Everybody wins. The amount 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:41.160 of money everybody wins. That trickled down in athletic departments. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.640 Everybody wins based off what happened during the pandemic. So 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.520 we'll talk to Andy Staples here in a moment eight 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.600 seven seven three D show email address DP at dan 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.920 Patrick dot com. Also, this is coming on the heels 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:57.480 of the NCAA announcing that it's president Mark Emritt is 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:01.760 coming back. He got a contract exten mclub and the 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.080 poll question. Then we'll get to Andy Staples. Who's gonna 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.840 win our draft bet? I have Justin Justin Fields going 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.760 eight or higher. Seaton has him nine or lower, and 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.360 fifty two percent say see it now it's changed. Well, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.360 there was a tweet that was put out by a 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.000 football insider from the Athletic Yeah, Kevin Fishbain. Okay, so 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:25.280 he said that apparently the Patriots have made a call 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.359 or calls to the Falcons about the number four overall pick, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:34.119 with the object of desire being Justin Fields. Yes, m club. 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.160 There's also twitter buzz that the Niners are playing possum 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.880 and secretly covet justin Field. There are a lot of 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.960 NFL writers with no inside knowledge on this fact. Just 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.359 putting two and two together, Justin Fields is awesome. Why 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.239 don't they take him? But why is this like they're 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.400 they're they're not in competition with anybody, are they? Are 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.360 they trying to throw the draft into chaos? And hey, 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.960 now we're taking Justin Fields? And and what does Atlanta 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:07.560 act differently? Does Cincinnati act differently? Like? I don't think so. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.640 I think teams act differently if Justin Fields is available, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.239 as opposed to if Mac Jones is. Yeah, mclovian, maybe 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.480 just a media creating content because it's been you said 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.320 a month ago. It's Mac Jones, a Shanahan's guy with 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.480 Trey Lance some supporters, and nothing's really changed, but we 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.800 need some content Andy Staples covers college football for The 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.320 Athletic And before we get to the potential for a 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.720 playoff here, Andy, let me ask you about these quarterbacks. 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.760 The biggest question mark you have with the quarterbacks is 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:41.080 attached to who Trey Lance sample size? And that's really 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.240 it because he's got everything else. I mean, he's got 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.920 everything you want in terms of size, speed, arm, strength, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.080 football IQ, all that stuff. But he's played one season 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.640 in the FCS as a starter, and that's the issue. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.440 You know, you say Mac Jones only played one season 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.840 as a starter in Justin fields, played one and then 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.600 an abbreviated season. But they're playing in the SEC, in 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.440 the Big ten justin Fields, Trey Lance was playing in 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.720 the FCS. So that's really the big question. And the 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.800 thing I would I would want out of the team 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.080 that drafts Trey Lance is give him a chance to learn, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.159 do you know, give him kind of the Pat Mahomes 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.560 redshirt treatment. And you know, if that's the forty nine ers, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.400 you could probably do that with Garoppolo. But you know, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.640 I'm I'm in the camp that says that Kyle Shanahan 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.640 is looking at Mac Jones and going, oh, here's a 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.120 guy who played in a basically an NFL offense last 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.200 year under Steve Sarkisian. He can just He'll throw the 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.120 ball where I want him to throw the ball, and 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.320 I like that. So I see that it's the Falcons 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.480 at four that intrigue me, Like if they're going to 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.479 take a quarterback or if they're gonna trade that spot 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.640 to somebody who's going to take a quarterback. I think 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.160 that makes it more interesting. I would love to see 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.760 Justin Fields go to the Falcons. I would love to 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.760 see a guy from Atlanta be the Falcons. I mean 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.159 he would be an icon in Atlanta if he leads 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.719 them to a Super Bowl. Well, they loved him so 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.039 much and Georgia they let him transfer to Ohio State. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.280 So Arthur Blake had nothing to do with that. Dan 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.039 Arthur Blake did not make Justin Fields go in on 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.520 that fake punt. Give me the quarterback. Though. To keep 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.039 an eye on with all the quarterbacks that you looked 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.839 at this past year, I'm intrigued about Kellen Mond and 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.960 what NFL teams think of him, because this is a 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:25.039 guy who's athletic, He's got a good arm. He got 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.599 better every year at Texas, A and m and you know, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:33.000 he coached very hard by by Jimbo Fisher. So personality wise, 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.440 he can he can handle whatever you're gonna throw at him. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.880 And the question is can he be a little bit 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.400 more dynamic than than what we saw at Texas? This 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.760 year is interesting because he again he got better even 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.280 though he lost his four best receivers. He had a 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.200 couple of guys opt out right before the season started. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.760 So I think, you know, if you're picking in the 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.719 second round and you're looking for somebody who might be 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.719 able to come in and help you, he might be 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.400 that guy. All right, Let's read what you and Stuart 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.159 Mandel were tweeting FBS commissioners considering expanding the college football 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.320 Playoff from four schools up to double digit teams, with 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.080 the quote from a source, I since twelve teams is 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.960 building support? How far down the road are we on this? 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.800 They've been talking about this for a little while. I 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.360 mean this discussion actually started following the twenty eighteen season. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.640 And if you remember the final College Football Playoff rankings 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.559 that season, that's the one to remember. Ohio State didn't 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.240 get in, you know, Notre Dame got in, and so 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:34.000 that that knocked out another VCS or Power five conference, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.760 and Ohio State not only didn't get in, they finished 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.080 in the final rankings behind Georgia, which had just lost 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.880 the SEC championship game. There's that fake punt again. Sorry 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.960 Georgie fans, but that was when people looked at it 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.760 and said, what, well, hey, wait, wait, what's going on here? 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:56.280 Are we the Big Ten, the most powerful or second 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.440 most powerful conference in college football? Are we gonna be 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.200 shut out of this thing multiple times? Because remember, they 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.880 didn't get in seventeen, they didn't get in an eighteen, 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.279 their champion didn't get it in sixteen, but Ohio State did. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.800 So you've got that. Then you've got the Pac twelve, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.520 which hasn't gotten instant sixteen. You've got the Big twelve, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.240 which was the original, you know, existential crisis. We didn't 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.119 get in the playoff, and people are just thinking about 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.960 this and going, wait a second, why are we in 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.760 a system where we can just be knocked out in 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.920 September October? When we can have a system where everybody 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.880 plays and we keep everybody engaged and somebody from every 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.360 league's getting in. And I also look at it when 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.240 somebody says, well it renders the regular season meaningless, and 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.239 he said, no, it doesn't. Now it means more teams 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.320 the importance of the regular season. If you say, twelve 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.360 teams are going to make the playoffs. If I make 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.880 it now, twenty schools are involved in those with the 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.200 chance to be in the twelve team playoffs. If I 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.720 you know, look at college football, now, how many get 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.640 a chance to be in the top four. We may 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.800 have seven or eight. Now I can at least double that. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.760 I might even triple that, and it would only be 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.480 nine percent of college football teams that would make the playoffs. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.760 The NFL is forty percent of the NFL makes the playoffs. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.400 College football, the bowl games will mean something. Now you 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.760 could have secondary bowl games that now have are elevated 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.040 a little bit here, don't I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.600 stop you there. Bowl games are done. Other than the 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.480 ones that are already semifinals, they're done. I mean, they're 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.120 gonna be bowl games because they're television product and people 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:36.040 like watching football and TV. But you're not putting those 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.040 early playoff games and bowls. You're putting them where they 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.959 belong on campus, you know, So you're I want to 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.040 see Okay, so you're gonna yeah, I want to Oh yeah, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.520 that's what ESPN wants. That's what the schools want, because 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.360 think about this. If you're an athletic director and you're 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:51.920 trying to sell season tickets, well you want to have 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:56.080 a yeah what and what's going to sell you more 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.800 season tickets? Priority to buy tickets to a home playoff 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.600 game or that buy game that you're probably gonna end 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.839 up getting rid of. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Give 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:09.400 me the options that are in play here it now? 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.880 Is it just there's a lot, Okay, Yeah, they're looking 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.640 I mean they've said they're looking at six, eight, ten, twelve, sixteen. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.240 I think realistically we're eight, ten, twelve or probably what 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.120 they're what they're looking at. Eight is very neat. It's 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.560 a multiple four. You have three rounds, quarterfinals on campus 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:30.040 in my finals at Bowls Neutral Sight, championship game, uh 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.480 ten and twelve. Then you add another week, but you 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.319 add buys, which somebody I was always an eight guy, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.400 and I had an ad text me out of the 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.560 blue a few months ago with a an idea of twelve, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:44.880 and I was like, why that's that seems like too many? 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.560 And this person's like, no, you're protecting the regular season 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.640 by putting in the buys and by putting in the hosting. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.839 So you know, it matters if you're one through four 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.080 because you get a buy. It matters if you're five 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.640 through eight because you host a game. It matters if 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.360 you're nine through twelve because you either get in or 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.959 you don't. That's a lot more engaged fan bases and 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.360 engage teams, you know, because one of the big arguments 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.800 is if you do this, does it nullify the conference 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.000 championship games? Well, let's look at what would happened. So 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.839 the PAC twelve conference championship game, which is not really 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.680 relevant most years, like last year USC and Oregon, they're 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.520 playing for a championship and a trip to whatever, but 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.160 this time it'd be for a playoff appearance. So that 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.960 is a huge, huge game. I mean, that has stakes. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.040 Everybody wants to watch that because you know the team 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.040 that's gonna play them wants to see who who they're 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.240 gonna play. And then the SEC championship game. Okay, I 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:45.080 don't know if Alabama had much motivation because if they lost, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.640 they might still be in the top four. But for Florida, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.960 if they win, they would have gone into the top four. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.520 So they not only would have gotten to buy, they 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.800 would have gotten a home game. So there's motivation there. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.640 Are you looking at the Power five conferences? Will get 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.920 automatic entry here? I would think so, And I would 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.800 think you can't do this without if you're going to 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.960 ten or twelve, you got to give an auto bid 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.199 to the highest rank group of five champions, to the 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.720 Cincinnati or the UCF for the Boise State or whoever 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.600 that is, because that's just good for business. That's a 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.679 lot of fan bases that stay more interested in the 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.480 sport who don't feel like they're completely shut out of 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.760 the race for the championship. Now do those teams have 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.360 a chance to win the championship? Would they? Would they 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.600 win potentially four games in a playoff and went Probably not, 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:34.959 But I guarantee you the first time one of them 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.120 wins a game, this becomes the most beloved sporting event 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:44.480 in America. How soon can this happen? So the soonest 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.360 it could probably happen would be going into the twenty 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.679 twenty three season. The contract has currently constituted runs through 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.360 the end of the twenty five season, but the rotation 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.000 of the bulls where you have you know, rose and 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.040 sugar or a semi and then and then fiesta and 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.600 and peach or semi that starts again in twenty twenty three, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.319 So you could you can rip some stuff up and 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:09.199 do it then that that would be the earliest good stuff. Hey, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:12.320 thanks for giving me some content today. You know this 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.920 is this is great. What do you got? We appreciate 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:19.439 it too, Thank you, commissioners, because we were getting bored. Yeah, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.040 thank you Andy. Great to talk to you, buddy at 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.360 Andy Staples covers college football for the Athletic Yeah. I 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.520 didn't think about the bowl games, but he's right. If 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.400 you're these schools and their powerhouses, they're gonna go. We're 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.880 not gonna you want to get a full house when 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.000 you play in a bowl game, and you don't want 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:38.840 to be in a neutral site. I get it, and 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.480 I was wrong on that because I thought, okay, yeah, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.800 this this makes sense. I could have the bowl games. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.240 The bull committees will tell you, you you know, how many 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.080 times are teams going to go on the road, How 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:53.360 how often will their fan base travel? And they want 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:58.080 to fill out these stadiums. If Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.960 and Notre Dame, get a Hi week and then a 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.520 home game. That home game is going to be sold out. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.160 Now you go to a Bowl game and hopefully your 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.480 your fan base will travel there. You'll sell that out, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.360 and then you get down to the national title game. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.200 I understand that makes a lot of sense. Would be fun, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.360 but not this next season coming up the season after that. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.960 Scott and Tampa joins us on the topic. Scott, thanks 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.920 for holding what's on your mind today? I'll just as 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.160 they had the uh, the March Madness as their coin 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.560 phrase for the tournament. What sort of thoughts on the 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:39.280 coin phrase for this set of tournament play going to be? 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.000 Will it be like the Fall Frenzy? What are the 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.439 thoughts from the Dane everybody? Well, I know one person 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.160 who would want to weigh in on this. Thank you, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:52.959 Scott Todd. Do you have any that something that definitely 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.240 needs to name? Oh? Do you get so so fall Frenzy? 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.240 That's not terrible, But it's not the Fall. It's winter. Yeah, 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.240 but it all starts now, all the games matters. It's 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.920 all starts in the fall. From game one with all 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.040 these extra teams. Every March Madness starts in March. It 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.360 doesn't start in October winter the season starts March. Madness. Yeah, 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:17.760 is alliteration mandatory like when ESPN and in November they 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:23.680 do separation Saturday College, don't you? For somebody whose name 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.400 is Paul paps PAULI hates alliteration was born into it. Yeah. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:34.120 I think that's why. Yeah, app app fill in Indiana. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.120 I feel good to have you back. Hey, Dan, Always 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.120 a pleasure, buddy, Hey, real quick. I wanted to get 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.240 your thoughts. So one of the hang ups that I 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.280 see on this dand are the university presidents and the 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.720 boards of trustees. They've always kind of been a little 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.640 sticky on this, whether it's the academic issue, the travel issue, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.200 the more games issue. I wanted to get your thoughts 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.440 as to if you think they would be impeding the 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.120 process of growth. And always a pleasure, Dan, have a 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:05.240 great buddy, Thank you, Phil. If you have a compass, 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.880 point your compass towards the money. I know that we 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:15.239 want to have you know, uh, you know athletic student athletes. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.160 I know we I know we want that. That was 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.560 the phrase that was coined I think back in the 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:27.119 mid seventies by Walter Buyers. It's like jumbo shrimp. Okay, 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:33.440 do we need jumbo shrimp? How about just shrimp? But 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.840 the student athlete, Um, it's an athletic student, is what 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.840 I've always said. But the student athlete, I don't know 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.360 if if you want to attach grade point averages here 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.720 to you know, some kind of penalties, or I give 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.200 you some kind of extra credit. I I don't know. 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.240 See this is why mclovin would always have a spot 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.680 on the roster in basketball, and they'd be like, Hey, mclovin, 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.520 come on, I need at least of three nine out 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.520 of you, dude, totally not points. I needed three nine 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.560 grade point average. That was my role in the high 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.360 school team, because you know, it was hard to stay 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.960 eligble in high school. I don't know if your team 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.119 was like that, but half our team was below eligible, 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.320 so I was. I helped some guys I had a 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.280 hard time stay ineligible. Yeah, I mean I stayed eligible. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:23.480 But my grade point average in high school was just 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.720 over two point zero, right, and that's probably the line. 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:30.280 But my points per game average was well, never mind, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.480 and during the season, you probably didn't think twice about 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.480 your homework here, No I didn't. I did not who 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.400 had the worst grade point at well, the back row 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.360 had great grade point averages. Paulie, did did you have 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.600 a worst grade point average than me? I'm pretty sure 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.840 I did. I think I graduated from Maryon Catholic High School, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:50.400 which is ironically a college prep school as takes academic seriously. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.200 I had a two point one two grade point average 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.040 and I was ranked three hundred and eighty out of 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.800 three hundred ninety in my graduating class. Okay, I mean 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.080 so a few people I could people were dumber than you. Yeah, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:06.959 well maybe four that were actually dumber seat ocunnor. I 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.720 didn't even know that it was done in numbers, Like 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.960 what do you mean at two point one five nine? 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.640 Is it like an abac r D like that? Yeah, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:19.360 I finished somewhere like in the middle issues the bottom 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:24.120 of him, like somewhere in that like lower seventy five percent. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.240 I guess I don't know. I might have had a 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.560 learning disability before they had learning disabilities. I just I 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:35.439 couldn't stay focused, Like I had no interest at all, none, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.280 And then I proved that by going to college and 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:42.159 doing the same thing. Could not stay focused at all. Yeah. See, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.480 when I went into my high school guidance counselor and 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.240 sat down. I don't remember if it was my junior 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.240 senior year. He sat down and the first things he 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.879 said to me was, so, were you even thinking about college? 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.800 Are you just gonna go work for the city. Yeah, 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:02.000 I was considering college. Yeah. I never considered that college 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.400 would look at my grade point average. I just thought 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.920 they'd look at my points per game, like I thought, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.199 you know, that'll supersede everything here because I was Magna 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.480 cum laude with that, or is it Suma kum laude 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.000 is bigger? Why is it that If I don't know, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.280 that should tell you smart. I I think it's Summa 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.560 cum laude is better than Magna cum latte. I don't know. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.399 I think magna is the highest I thought it was, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.639 But I just second guess myself. See if I was 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.760 on the SAT, I would have second guessed myself. I'm 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.200 not sure though. Yes, yes, I had a guidance counselor, 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.880 and we're supposed to give him your list of five schools, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.119 and the school would apply on your behalf and for 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:40.520 the first five schools, and you have to do the 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.639 rest on your own. I gave him five schools, none 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.840 of them were too aggressive. But the fifth one was Northwestern, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.800 you know, Northwestern, very good communications school. And he looked 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.000 at me because he goes, you should really put another 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.080 school in the Yeah, I go, is there a shot? 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:58.080 He goes, there's no shot. Yes, tudd, I understand. You 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.520 want to re over kids in and give you no, 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.600 not get hopes up, but you gotta give. There's gotta 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.480 be some kind of middle ground where you're giving them 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.600 some confidence and letting them feel like, encourage them, you know, 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.119 to go for whatever schools they want to go for, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.000 instead of saying, yeah, this college isn't be here or 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.159 not not at all. But I don't want somebody to 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:14.879 lie to me. No, not lie to you, but just 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.560 leave a little window. Meet you halfway and instead of 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.680 crapping all over your hopes and dreams of what you 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.119 want to drift to high school? Did anybody look up? 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.119 Is it Magna kumlane or suma? Like that's gonna be 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.080 a mystery. We're gonna live with you. I just said something. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.200 You're not doing a damn thing in the back row? 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.280 Can you type in to be fair in the front row? 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.560 Didn't look at all either. Yeah, but they're not smart 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.840 I'm actually working on another thing for the group here 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.600 that is is actually a little different that he's going 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.040 to shock you. Okay, I'll get to that in a moment. Yes, 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:49.440 seton Magna is for students who have graduated with great distinction. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:55.040 Suma is for students who have graduated with the highest distinction. Hello, 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.080 how about bad back row? Yeah, but that's bs they're 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.160 wrong because magna sounds way bigger. Assume and that's why 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:08.439 you assuma that magna is. Okay, do you have a 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.240 tease here? Mclovin going to break that we're doing something 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:16.080 that's no, it's so dumb, Yes, Yer teases, I have 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.359 the worst tease of all times. Okay, something so dumb. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.440 It doesn't work on radio all it's a visual too, 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:24.280 it's even worse. Well, why don't you do this on 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:26.679 the live look in? Let's do it. Okay, we'll do 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.600 that so I can spare the radio listeners. If it's entertaining, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.480 then I'll let it bleed over into next segment there, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.320 which highly unlikely. We'll take a break. It's twenty two 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.880 after the hour. This I think still is the Dan 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:44.760 Patrick Show. 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