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Speaker 1: if you're just joining us. Nice little tweet today, FBS
Speaker 1: commissioners considering expanding the college football playoffs from four schools
Speaker 1: up to double digit teams. And the quote attached from
Speaker 1: a source I sensed twelve teams as building support. Andy
Speaker 1: Staples covers college football PEO will join us coming up
Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes to talk about this expanding
Speaker 1: the playoffs. ESPN has the contract. I believe it goes
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty six, so you would have to renegotiate that.
Speaker 1: As PAULI is going right now, you'd be ripping up
Speaker 1: that condy at the bank. Yes, And if you were
Speaker 1: wondering what the matchups would be if a twelve team
Speaker 1: playoff existed last year, Bama Coastal Carolina, Notre Name, Indiana, Clemson, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Cincinnati A and M Georgia, Iowa State against Florida,
Speaker 1: and maybe you would get a buy. I would imagine
Speaker 1: if you went the top two seeds would get a buy.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that. But you still have great matchups here.
Speaker 1: And I know Nick Saban came out yesterday. He was
Speaker 1: interviewed by Paul Feinbaum and he said he wasn't in
Speaker 1: favor of expanding the playoffs because what that would do
Speaker 1: to the bowl games. Coach is wrong. It would make
Speaker 1: the bowl games more, bowl games more meaningful because you
Speaker 1: would play in a bowl game to get to another
Speaker 1: bowl game, to get to another bowl game, and then
Speaker 1: you'd play in the National Championship. Everybody wins. The amount
Speaker 1: of money everybody wins. That trickled down in athletic departments.
Speaker 1: Everybody wins based off what happened during the pandemic. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Andy Staples here in a moment eight
Speaker 1: seven seven three D show email address DP at dan
Speaker 1: Patrick dot com. Also, this is coming on the heels
Speaker 1: of the NCAA announcing that it's president Mark Emritt is
Speaker 1: coming back. He got a contract exten mclub and the
Speaker 1: poll question. Then we'll get to Andy Staples. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: win our draft bet? I have Justin Justin Fields going
Speaker 1: eight or higher. Seaton has him nine or lower, and
Speaker 1: fifty two percent say see it now it's changed. Well,
Speaker 1: there was a tweet that was put out by a
Speaker 1: football insider from the Athletic Yeah, Kevin Fishbain. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he said that apparently the Patriots have made a call
Speaker 1: or calls to the Falcons about the number four overall pick,
Speaker 1: with the object of desire being Justin Fields. Yes, m club.
Speaker 1: There's also twitter buzz that the Niners are playing possum
Speaker 1: and secretly covet justin Field. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL writers with no inside knowledge on this fact. Just
Speaker 1: putting two and two together, Justin Fields is awesome. Why
Speaker 1: don't they take him? But why is this like they're
Speaker 1: they're they're not in competition with anybody, are they? Are
Speaker 1: they trying to throw the draft into chaos? And hey,
Speaker 1: now we're taking Justin Fields? And and what does Atlanta
Speaker 1: act differently? Does Cincinnati act differently? Like? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think teams act differently if Justin Fields is available,
Speaker 1: as opposed to if Mac Jones is. Yeah, mclovian, maybe
Speaker 1: just a media creating content because it's been you said
Speaker 1: a month ago. It's Mac Jones, a Shanahan's guy with
Speaker 1: Trey Lance some supporters, and nothing's really changed, but we
Speaker 1: need some content Andy Staples covers college football for The
Speaker 1: Athletic And before we get to the potential for a
Speaker 1: playoff here, Andy, let me ask you about these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: The biggest question mark you have with the quarterbacks is
Speaker 1: attached to who Trey Lance sample size? And that's really
Speaker 1: it because he's got everything else. I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: everything you want in terms of size, speed, arm, strength,
Speaker 1: football IQ, all that stuff. But he's played one season
Speaker 1: in the FCS as a starter, and that's the issue.
Speaker 1: You know, you say Mac Jones only played one season
Speaker 1: as a starter in Justin fields, played one and then
Speaker 1: an abbreviated season. But they're playing in the SEC, in
Speaker 1: the Big ten justin Fields, Trey Lance was playing in
Speaker 1: the FCS. So that's really the big question. And the
Speaker 1: thing I would I would want out of the team
Speaker 1: that drafts Trey Lance is give him a chance to learn,
Speaker 1: do you know, give him kind of the Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: redshirt treatment. And you know, if that's the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: you could probably do that with Garoppolo. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the camp that says that Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: is looking at Mac Jones and going, oh, here's a
Speaker 1: guy who played in a basically an NFL offense last
Speaker 1: year under Steve Sarkisian. He can just He'll throw the
Speaker 1: ball where I want him to throw the ball, and
Speaker 1: I like that. So I see that it's the Falcons
Speaker 1: at four that intrigue me, Like if they're going to
Speaker 1: take a quarterback or if they're gonna trade that spot
Speaker 1: to somebody who's going to take a quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: that makes it more interesting. I would love to see
Speaker 1: Justin Fields go to the Falcons. I would love to
Speaker 1: see a guy from Atlanta be the Falcons. I mean
Speaker 1: he would be an icon in Atlanta if he leads
Speaker 1: them to a Super Bowl. Well, they loved him so
Speaker 1: much and Georgia they let him transfer to Ohio State.
Speaker 1: So Arthur Blake had nothing to do with that. Dan
Speaker 1: Arthur Blake did not make Justin Fields go in on
Speaker 1: that fake punt. Give me the quarterback. Though. To keep
Speaker 1: an eye on with all the quarterbacks that you looked
Speaker 1: at this past year, I'm intrigued about Kellen Mond and
Speaker 1: what NFL teams think of him, because this is a
Speaker 1: guy who's athletic, He's got a good arm. He got
Speaker 1: better every year at Texas, A and m and you know,
Speaker 1: he coached very hard by by Jimbo Fisher. So personality wise,
Speaker 1: he can he can handle whatever you're gonna throw at him.
Speaker 1: And the question is can he be a little bit
Speaker 1: more dynamic than than what we saw at Texas? This
Speaker 1: year is interesting because he again he got better even
Speaker 1: though he lost his four best receivers. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of guys opt out right before the season started.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, if you're picking in the
Speaker 1: second round and you're looking for somebody who might be
Speaker 1: able to come in and help you, he might be
Speaker 1: that guy. All right, Let's read what you and Stuart
Speaker 1: Mandel were tweeting FBS commissioners considering expanding the college football
Speaker 1: Playoff from four schools up to double digit teams, with
Speaker 1: the quote from a source, I since twelve teams is
Speaker 1: building support? How far down the road are we on this?
Speaker 1: They've been talking about this for a little while. I
Speaker 1: mean this discussion actually started following the twenty eighteen season.
Speaker 1: And if you remember the final College Football Playoff rankings
Speaker 1: that season, that's the one to remember. Ohio State didn't
Speaker 1: get in, you know, Notre Dame got in, and so
Speaker 1: that that knocked out another VCS or Power five conference,
Speaker 1: and Ohio State not only didn't get in, they finished
Speaker 1: in the final rankings behind Georgia, which had just lost
Speaker 1: the SEC championship game. There's that fake punt again. Sorry
Speaker 1: Georgie fans, but that was when people looked at it
Speaker 1: and said, what, well, hey, wait, wait, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: Are we the Big Ten, the most powerful or second
Speaker 1: most powerful conference in college football? Are we gonna be
Speaker 1: shut out of this thing multiple times? Because remember, they
Speaker 1: didn't get in seventeen, they didn't get in an eighteen,
Speaker 1: their champion didn't get it in sixteen, but Ohio State did.
Speaker 1: So you've got that. Then you've got the Pac twelve,
Speaker 1: which hasn't gotten instant sixteen. You've got the Big twelve,
Speaker 1: which was the original, you know, existential crisis. We didn't
Speaker 1: get in the playoff, and people are just thinking about
Speaker 1: this and going, wait a second, why are we in
Speaker 1: a system where we can just be knocked out in
Speaker 1: September October? When we can have a system where everybody
Speaker 1: plays and we keep everybody engaged and somebody from every
Speaker 1: league's getting in. And I also look at it when
Speaker 1: somebody says, well it renders the regular season meaningless, and
Speaker 1: he said, no, it doesn't. Now it means more teams
Speaker 1: the importance of the regular season. If you say, twelve
Speaker 1: teams are going to make the playoffs. If I make
Speaker 1: it now, twenty schools are involved in those with the
Speaker 1: chance to be in the twelve team playoffs. If I
Speaker 1: you know, look at college football, now, how many get
Speaker 1: a chance to be in the top four. We may
Speaker 1: have seven or eight. Now I can at least double that.
Speaker 1: I might even triple that, and it would only be
Speaker 1: nine percent of college football teams that would make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The NFL is forty percent of the NFL makes the playoffs.
Speaker 1: College football, the bowl games will mean something. Now you
Speaker 1: could have secondary bowl games that now have are elevated
Speaker 1: a little bit here, don't I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stop you there. Bowl games are done. Other than the
Speaker 1: ones that are already semifinals, they're done. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be bowl games because they're television product and people
Speaker 1: like watching football and TV. But you're not putting those
Speaker 1: early playoff games and bowls. You're putting them where they
Speaker 1: belong on campus, you know, So you're I want to
Speaker 1: see Okay, so you're gonna yeah, I want to Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what ESPN wants. That's what the schools want, because
Speaker 1: think about this. If you're an athletic director and you're
Speaker 1: trying to sell season tickets, well you want to have
Speaker 1: a yeah what and what's going to sell you more
Speaker 1: season tickets? Priority to buy tickets to a home playoff
Speaker 1: game or that buy game that you're probably gonna end
Speaker 1: up getting rid of. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Give
Speaker 1: me the options that are in play here it now?
Speaker 1: Is it just there's a lot, Okay, Yeah, they're looking
Speaker 1: I mean they've said they're looking at six, eight, ten, twelve, sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think realistically we're eight, ten, twelve or probably what
Speaker 1: they're what they're looking at. Eight is very neat. It's
Speaker 1: a multiple four. You have three rounds, quarterfinals on campus
Speaker 1: in my finals at Bowls Neutral Sight, championship game, uh
Speaker 1: ten and twelve. Then you add another week, but you
Speaker 1: add buys, which somebody I was always an eight guy,
Speaker 1: and I had an ad text me out of the
Speaker 1: blue a few months ago with a an idea of twelve,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why that's that seems like too many?
Speaker 1: And this person's like, no, you're protecting the regular season
Speaker 1: by putting in the buys and by putting in the hosting.
Speaker 1: So you know, it matters if you're one through four
Speaker 1: because you get a buy. It matters if you're five
Speaker 1: through eight because you host a game. It matters if
Speaker 1: you're nine through twelve because you either get in or
Speaker 1: you don't. That's a lot more engaged fan bases and
Speaker 1: engage teams, you know, because one of the big arguments
Speaker 1: is if you do this, does it nullify the conference
Speaker 1: championship games? Well, let's look at what would happened. So
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve conference championship game, which is not really
Speaker 1: relevant most years, like last year USC and Oregon, they're
Speaker 1: playing for a championship and a trip to whatever, but
Speaker 1: this time it'd be for a playoff appearance. So that
Speaker 1: is a huge, huge game. I mean, that has stakes.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to watch that because you know the team
Speaker 1: that's gonna play them wants to see who who they're
Speaker 1: gonna play. And then the SEC championship game. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know if Alabama had much motivation because if they lost,
Speaker 1: they might still be in the top four. But for Florida,
Speaker 1: if they win, they would have gone into the top four.
Speaker 1: So they not only would have gotten to buy, they
Speaker 1: would have gotten a home game. So there's motivation there.
Speaker 1: Are you looking at the Power five conferences? Will get
Speaker 1: automatic entry here? I would think so, And I would
Speaker 1: think you can't do this without if you're going to
Speaker 1: ten or twelve, you got to give an auto bid
Speaker 1: to the highest rank group of five champions, to the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or the UCF for the Boise State or whoever
Speaker 1: that is, because that's just good for business. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of fan bases that stay more interested in the
Speaker 1: sport who don't feel like they're completely shut out of
Speaker 1: the race for the championship. Now do those teams have
Speaker 1: a chance to win the championship? Would they? Would they
Speaker 1: win potentially four games in a playoff and went Probably not,
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you the first time one of them
Speaker 1: wins a game, this becomes the most beloved sporting event
Speaker 1: in America. How soon can this happen? So the soonest
Speaker 1: it could probably happen would be going into the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three season. The contract has currently constituted runs through
Speaker 1: the end of the twenty five season, but the rotation
Speaker 1: of the bulls where you have you know, rose and
Speaker 1: sugar or a semi and then and then fiesta and
Speaker 1: and peach or semi that starts again in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: So you could you can rip some stuff up and
Speaker 1: do it then that that would be the earliest good stuff. Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for giving me some content today. You know this
Speaker 1: is this is great. What do you got? We appreciate
Speaker 1: it too, Thank you, commissioners, because we were getting bored. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you Andy. Great to talk to you, buddy at
Speaker 1: Andy Staples covers college football for the Athletic Yeah. I
Speaker 1: didn't think about the bowl games, but he's right. If
Speaker 1: you're these schools and their powerhouses, they're gonna go. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna you want to get a full house when
Speaker 1: you play in a bowl game, and you don't want
Speaker 1: to be in a neutral site. I get it, and
Speaker 1: I was wrong on that because I thought, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: this this makes sense. I could have the bowl games.
Speaker 1: The bull committees will tell you, you you know, how many
Speaker 1: times are teams going to go on the road, How
Speaker 1: how often will their fan base travel? And they want
Speaker 1: to fill out these stadiums. If Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame, get a Hi week and then a
Speaker 1: home game. That home game is going to be sold out.
Speaker 1: Now you go to a Bowl game and hopefully your
Speaker 1: your fan base will travel there. You'll sell that out,
Speaker 1: and then you get down to the national title game.
Speaker 1: I understand that makes a lot of sense. Would be fun,
Speaker 1: but not this next season coming up the season after that.
Speaker 1: Scott and Tampa joins us on the topic. Scott, thanks
Speaker 1: for holding what's on your mind today? I'll just as
Speaker 1: they had the uh, the March Madness as their coin
Speaker 1: phrase for the tournament. What sort of thoughts on the
Speaker 1: coin phrase for this set of tournament play going to be?
Speaker 1: Will it be like the Fall Frenzy? What are the
Speaker 1: thoughts from the Dane everybody? Well, I know one person
Speaker 1: who would want to weigh in on this. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Scott Todd. Do you have any that something that definitely
Speaker 1: needs to name? Oh? Do you get so so fall Frenzy?
Speaker 1: That's not terrible, But it's not the Fall. It's winter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it all starts now, all the games matters. It's
Speaker 1: all starts in the fall. From game one with all
Speaker 1: these extra teams. Every March Madness starts in March. It
Speaker 1: doesn't start in October winter the season starts March. Madness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is alliteration mandatory like when ESPN and in November they
Speaker 1: do separation Saturday College, don't you? For somebody whose name
Speaker 1: is Paul paps PAULI hates alliteration was born into it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's why. Yeah, app app fill in Indiana.
Speaker 1: I feel good to have you back. Hey, Dan, Always
Speaker 1: a pleasure, buddy, Hey, real quick. I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts. So one of the hang ups that I
Speaker 1: see on this dand are the university presidents and the
Speaker 1: boards of trustees. They've always kind of been a little
Speaker 1: sticky on this, whether it's the academic issue, the travel issue,
Speaker 1: the more games issue. I wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: as to if you think they would be impeding the
Speaker 1: process of growth. And always a pleasure, Dan, have a
Speaker 1: great buddy, Thank you, Phil. If you have a compass,
Speaker 1: point your compass towards the money. I know that we
Speaker 1: want to have you know, uh, you know athletic student athletes.
Speaker 1: I know we I know we want that. That was
Speaker 1: the phrase that was coined I think back in the
Speaker 1: mid seventies by Walter Buyers. It's like jumbo shrimp. Okay,
Speaker 1: do we need jumbo shrimp? How about just shrimp? But
Speaker 1: the student athlete, Um, it's an athletic student, is what
Speaker 1: I've always said. But the student athlete, I don't know
Speaker 1: if if you want to attach grade point averages here
Speaker 1: to you know, some kind of penalties, or I give
Speaker 1: you some kind of extra credit. I I don't know.
Speaker 1: See this is why mclovin would always have a spot
Speaker 1: on the roster in basketball, and they'd be like, Hey, mclovin,
Speaker 1: come on, I need at least of three nine out
Speaker 1: of you, dude, totally not points. I needed three nine
Speaker 1: grade point average. That was my role in the high
Speaker 1: school team, because you know, it was hard to stay
Speaker 1: eligble in high school. I don't know if your team
Speaker 1: was like that, but half our team was below eligible,
Speaker 1: so I was. I helped some guys I had a
Speaker 1: hard time stay ineligible. Yeah, I mean I stayed eligible.
Speaker 1: But my grade point average in high school was just
Speaker 1: over two point zero, right, and that's probably the line.
Speaker 1: But my points per game average was well, never mind,
Speaker 1: and during the season, you probably didn't think twice about
Speaker 1: your homework here, No I didn't. I did not who
Speaker 1: had the worst grade point at well, the back row
Speaker 1: had great grade point averages. Paulie, did did you have
Speaker 1: a worst grade point average than me? I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I did. I think I graduated from Maryon Catholic High School,
Speaker 1: which is ironically a college prep school as takes academic seriously.
Speaker 1: I had a two point one two grade point average
Speaker 1: and I was ranked three hundred and eighty out of
Speaker 1: three hundred ninety in my graduating class. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: so a few people I could people were dumber than you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well maybe four that were actually dumber seat ocunnor. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that it was done in numbers, Like
Speaker 1: what do you mean at two point one five nine?
Speaker 1: Is it like an abac r D like that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I finished somewhere like in the middle issues the bottom
Speaker 1: of him, like somewhere in that like lower seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I might have had a
Speaker 1: learning disability before they had learning disabilities. I just I
Speaker 1: couldn't stay focused, Like I had no interest at all, none,
Speaker 1: And then I proved that by going to college and
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Could not stay focused at all. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: when I went into my high school guidance counselor and
Speaker 1: sat down. I don't remember if it was my junior
Speaker 1: senior year. He sat down and the first things he
Speaker 1: said to me was, so, were you even thinking about college?
Speaker 1: Are you just gonna go work for the city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was considering college. Yeah. I never considered that college
Speaker 1: would look at my grade point average. I just thought
Speaker 1: they'd look at my points per game, like I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, that'll supersede everything here because I was Magna
Speaker 1: cum laude with that, or is it Suma kum laude
Speaker 1: is bigger? Why is it that If I don't know,
Speaker 1: that should tell you smart. I I think it's Summa
Speaker 1: cum laude is better than Magna cum latte. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think magna is the highest I thought it was,
Speaker 1: But I just second guess myself. See if I was
Speaker 1: on the SAT, I would have second guessed myself. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure though. Yes, yes, I had a guidance counselor,
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to give him your list of five schools,
Speaker 1: and the school would apply on your behalf and for
Speaker 1: the first five schools, and you have to do the
Speaker 1: rest on your own. I gave him five schools, none
Speaker 1: of them were too aggressive. But the fifth one was Northwestern,
Speaker 1: you know, Northwestern, very good communications school. And he looked
Speaker 1: at me because he goes, you should really put another
Speaker 1: school in the Yeah, I go, is there a shot?
Speaker 1: He goes, there's no shot. Yes, tudd, I understand. You
Speaker 1: want to re over kids in and give you no,
Speaker 1: not get hopes up, but you gotta give. There's gotta
Speaker 1: be some kind of middle ground where you're giving them
Speaker 1: some confidence and letting them feel like, encourage them, you know,
Speaker 1: to go for whatever schools they want to go for,
Speaker 1: instead of saying, yeah, this college isn't be here or
Speaker 1: not not at all. But I don't want somebody to
Speaker 1: lie to me. No, not lie to you, but just
Speaker 1: leave a little window. Meet you halfway and instead of
Speaker 1: crapping all over your hopes and dreams of what you
Speaker 1: want to drift to high school? Did anybody look up?
Speaker 1: Is it Magna kumlane or suma? Like that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a mystery. We're gonna live with you. I just said something.
Speaker 1: You're not doing a damn thing in the back row?
Speaker 1: Can you type in to be fair in the front row?
Speaker 1: Didn't look at all either. Yeah, but they're not smart
Speaker 1: I'm actually working on another thing for the group here
Speaker 1: that is is actually a little different that he's going
Speaker 1: to shock you. Okay, I'll get to that in a moment. Yes,
Speaker 1: seton Magna is for students who have graduated with great distinction.
Speaker 1: Suma is for students who have graduated with the highest distinction. Hello,
Speaker 1: how about bad back row? Yeah, but that's bs they're
Speaker 1: wrong because magna sounds way bigger. Assume and that's why
Speaker 1: you assuma that magna is. Okay, do you have a
Speaker 1: tease here? Mclovin going to break that we're doing something
Speaker 1: that's no, it's so dumb, Yes, Yer teases, I have
Speaker 1: the worst tease of all times. Okay, something so dumb.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work on radio all it's a visual too,
Speaker 1: it's even worse. Well, why don't you do this on
Speaker 1: the live look in? Let's do it. Okay, we'll do
Speaker 1: that so I can spare the radio listeners. If it's entertaining,
Speaker 1: then I'll let it bleed over into next segment there,
Speaker 1: which highly unlikely. We'll take a break. It's twenty two
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Speaker 1: wife who was friends with Ed Helms. I just been
Speaker 1: told just friends, I'm gonna I'm gonna hate watch that show.
Speaker 1: It does look funny, though, did you have a conversation
Speaker 1: with your wife about Ed Helms? So it's actually not
Speaker 1: Ed Helms that made me uncomfortable. It's Ed Helms was
Speaker 1: in a band and we ran into one of his
Speaker 1: bandmates and there was awkward silence. Okay, you know like
Speaker 1: Ed oh yeah, Ed Helms. Nothing Helms just like blood
Speaker 1: pressure to say. And then this other guy who played
Speaker 1: the band or something, because he's a a banjo band.
Speaker 1: Awkward silence. What kind of band is Edie Helms is?
Speaker 1: He's not in like a Motley Crewe type band. He's
Speaker 1: in an a cappella group. No, he's like a professional
Speaker 1: level banjo player. And it was some sort of bluegrass
Speaker 1: band or something. Okay, all right. You know she went
Speaker 1: to the school Oberlin that's known for its music school,
Speaker 1: like ed Helms probably went to be a Musicianah and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's hard to compete with those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine losing out to rock stars. And but the
Speaker 1: awkward silence though, that that's where Yeah, and we had
Speaker 1: Edie Helms in studio a couple of years ago. He
Speaker 1: didn't remember my wife. I was a little Uh. I
Speaker 1: didn't love that. Well, I'd rather that he didn't than
Speaker 1: he did. If he's like he's like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember who. Yeah. It's like that scene in Best in Show,
Speaker 1: Remember oh yeah, he goes in business his old girlfriend.
Speaker 1: He goes, hey, remember back then when you put your leg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eugene Levy is like going looking like what what why
Speaker 1: aren't you You're I'm right here, you're talking about this
Speaker 1: and I'm not wearying a bell. I'm not wary. Bulge,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you since we Yeah yeah, Bulge Bulge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just finished all seasons of the Creek last night.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, six seasons. That's that's really good. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of those where I didn't like the concept at
Speaker 1: first and I never got into it. It works like you, Dan,
Speaker 1: you didn't like the name. That turned out to be
Speaker 1: a really good show. I got into it, but I
Speaker 1: didn't stay. Um, and I regret not staying because I
Speaker 1: do like that sense of humor, but I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know just something about it that I keep going.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. I gotta watch ships creak. Let's
Speaker 1: get some phone calls here. By the way, we have
Speaker 1: a draft game tomorrow. What is during draft game tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we each have to write down where each of the
Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks will go, what team they'll go to,
Speaker 1: not where, okay, not what pick, but just where each
Speaker 1: team each quarterback will go in the first rounds draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: And so if you pick Trey Lance, all you gotta
Speaker 1: tell me is the team that takes him and keeps him.
Speaker 1: So this is just a game. Yeah, this isn't anything
Speaker 1: that's meaningful. So the audience doesn't really invest in this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't go, oh my god, who won?
Speaker 1: Who won the game? We'll see. I think somebody should
Speaker 1: get a tattoo that's that's always my favorite with this audience.
Speaker 1: When whoever we're going like, I don't know, we're looking
Speaker 1: at what's at stake here wheel a punishment. Somebody should
Speaker 1: get a tattoo, tattoo on your face? Like, no, somebody
Speaker 1: should donate an organ. Um, No, No, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Todd came up with some college football playoff
Speaker 1: name games, so work in progress. Anythink there that remote?
Speaker 1: Will this help out if I deliver them? Okay? Uh?
Speaker 1: Frenetic February twelve, twelve twelve O rock for twelve teams?
Speaker 1: Are the playoffs going to be in February? That's for
Speaker 1: we could assume or just for game's sake, that it's
Speaker 1: spills into February. Okay, okay, well that that's not how
Speaker 1: it should work. I mean, it has to be like
Speaker 1: the month that it's going to be. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the paperwork and think it gonna have
Speaker 1: these games. I mean, March madness does crown a champ
Speaker 1: in April, but it is March primarily. February. Fever Twitter twelve,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you social media horrible? I want
Speaker 1: to go back to talking about the draft. Quarterback I
Speaker 1: thought the middle one was pretty good. Fabruary fabulary Fabruary
Speaker 1: is a winner. That is a winner and a a half.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with fabulous fabulary. I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think that's to come up with anything, mostly because it's
Speaker 1: so dumb. It is fabrulary. Yes, I think that that
Speaker 1: one's gonna stick. Doug in Washington, Hi, Doug, please save us.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, good morning Dan, Good morning today,
Speaker 1: Good Sarah. What's on your mind? A quick thing on
Speaker 1: this playoff talk? You had a little oversight and it
Speaker 1: was minor, but I just wanted to point it out.
Speaker 1: If you have twelve teams, then the top four are
Speaker 1: going to have a buy. There's no way to play
Speaker 1: that down to get to the appropriate number of teams
Speaker 1: at the end. So Coastal Carolina would actually play Texas
Speaker 1: A and M to begin with, and they'd have to
Speaker 1: win a couple of games to get to Alabama. Right,
Speaker 1: And thank you Doug for correcting me. Yeah. I was
Speaker 1: just given this proposal without any other information there, and
Speaker 1: we started to look at the matchup between one and twelve.
Speaker 1: So you know, once Andy Staples joined his and he
Speaker 1: kind of clued us in on more information because it
Speaker 1: wasn't my report, but you're right coast to Carolina and
Speaker 1: Alabama wouldn't have played in the opening room. David Nashville
Speaker 1: joints us Good morning, Dave. What's on your mind today? Hey,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to take this opportunity to tell my
Speaker 1: son that I'm proud of him for all the hard
Speaker 1: work he's doing to support his family, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to wish him a very happy birthday today. He's thirty
Speaker 1: three today, Dave, and he listens to your show all
Speaker 1: the time. Dave, Hello, could you have called your son? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But he he he kind of wanted to hear it
Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, what's his name, Dave, Dustin? All right, well,
Speaker 1: happy birthday, Dustin? Okay, that's that's day. At least who
Speaker 1: listens to your shower. Until then, it was like they're
Speaker 1: just taking random birthday messages. But I like, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to be mean spirited, but I like, you can
Speaker 1: just call your son. I hope he calls him first
Speaker 1: and then says, hey, I'm gonna try to call it
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick show. It's those people who do this on
Speaker 1: Twitter where you just get you know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: on Twitter and you get the or Facebook. You are
Speaker 1: my shining light. I would not be here without you.
Speaker 1: And I just go, why don't why don't you just
Speaker 1: put that in a card and just give it to her?
Speaker 1: Who knew fifteen years ago I would get to marry
Speaker 1: my best friend. That's exacting. Yes, a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: I'm calling her out. My mom on Facebook posted happy
Speaker 1: birthday to my wonderful son blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But she didn't call me on my birthday. She posted
Speaker 1: on Facebook, and the next day I was like, she goes,
Speaker 1: did you see my nice message? Yeah? But my phone
Speaker 1: didn't ring. Actually no, I didn't. I wasn't on Facebook
Speaker 1: all day? Was there a nice message? I didn't? Old
Speaker 1: people love the phone. Yes, John, you're kind of doing
Speaker 1: it for yourself. It makes you look how what a
Speaker 1: wonder full mom or husband and I have and it's
Speaker 1: hidden with this nice message to someone else. But it's
Speaker 1: really all about yourself that you're posting them. When I
Speaker 1: was going through my health issues, I had people who
Speaker 1: were tweeting, hey, you know, feel better, and they're people
Speaker 1: have my number, and I remember talking to two of
Speaker 1: them and I said you could just call like it.
Speaker 1: You could text, you know, you could email, you don't
Speaker 1: you don't have to tweet it so you don't get
Speaker 1: national credit. Such a wonderful person. Oh yes, Justin or
Speaker 1: Justin I don't remember which. I hope it was Dustin.
Speaker 1: Maybe its Justin. I made him Justin Okay, well, Dustin
Speaker 1: or Justin Happy Birthday. It's like that Chris Rock thing
Speaker 1: where it's like because the dad called up and was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say I'm so proud of you
Speaker 1: for doing everything you can do to support your family.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you want cookie, That's all you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Tim in New Jersey High Tim, what's on your mind?
Speaker 1: My damn? That's Jim. But anyway, I think so much.
Speaker 1: It's not just In or Dustinka Hi hi jim Uh.
Speaker 1: It's come with honors Magna cumludies. We're great honors, and
Speaker 1: then suma with highest honors. But there is one exception
Speaker 1: in darkness on their on their diploma, there's something called
Speaker 1: day minimes. Okay, not even worthy of consideration, Thank you pearl.
Speaker 1: What just happened? I got schooled in Latin. I guess
Speaker 1: it's a shot. That was a big shot. I didn't
Speaker 1: expect that. Yeah, like yes, dang yeah, day minimes in minimose?
Speaker 1: What ye? Day minimes is Latin? For some of that
Speaker 1: doesn't even work for ESPN covering the Lakers, dank mcminimes?
Speaker 1: It's Latin or minor to minor to merit consideration? What Todd?
Speaker 1: That's so unnecessary. It's like a shot. Did my backwo
Speaker 1: partner like that? I don't like that, thanks time. I'm
Speaker 1: not comfortable with that. Why didn't you just say that
Speaker 1: to make love? And why did you have to say
Speaker 1: that to us? Because I wanted you and the nation
Speaker 1: to know that I care about you have just said
Speaker 1: to make love and during the break, I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1: But again, I wouldn't get credit for things such a
Speaker 1: swell guy. I could have just written you're really sorry?
Speaker 1: Or do you want people to know? I want people
Speaker 1: to know that I'm backing up the minimum kindness Todd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's me right there. Remember minimum kindness? Wasn't that like
Speaker 1: four years ago? That was a thing that was a
Speaker 1: toddler thing, something about how did you come up with
Speaker 1: minimum kindness? Humber Paul has something to do with When
Speaker 1: Todd comes back from break and he goes, hey, how
Speaker 1: is your break? And then you start talking about it.
Speaker 1: He starts typing, and he doesn't listen to like anything,
Speaker 1: but he gives you the minimum kindness of how you doing,
Speaker 1: what's going on in your life. Sometimes you're in a
Speaker 1: situation where it's one of those throwaway lines where I
Speaker 1: look at someone see how you're doing, and you just,
Speaker 1: you know, you give the basic response and then you
Speaker 1: move on with your life. But I came back from
Speaker 1: my son's wedding and you go, hey, do you have
Speaker 1: a good time this weekend? That I actually did want
Speaker 1: to know, and then I then beyond that, I just,
Speaker 1: you know, just continue on on the other side of
Speaker 1: the class. I got, well you didn't care after that, No,
Speaker 1: that was the But we hadn't seen you since your
Speaker 1: son got married, so at the very least, you know
Speaker 1: ask Nobody appears to care more on this show that
Speaker 1: I appreciate. No one appears. Yes, I sent you the
Speaker 1: Mozel Tough text and everything. I didn't even get your
Speaker 1: thumbs up whatever you're Emerji back and nothing. Maybe I
Speaker 1: think there was maybe a thhe I'm only one percent Jewish.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but that's more than enough. You should
Speaker 1: have done mosl or Tov. Just send me the letter,
Speaker 1: K back that you got it. You're alive. Everything's okay.
Speaker 1: Wherever you are that everything's good. Happy. Did we talk
Speaker 1: about the draft games? Oh? Okay, we did talk about that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure gone off the rails here.
Speaker 1: How about take a break and regroup. Let's do that.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and close up shop. Last call for
Speaker 1: phone calls after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every
Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on
Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on
Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Hey, I'm John Middlecop and I host
Speaker 1: the Three and Out podcast. Do you like football? Do
Speaker 1: you like the NFL? Do you like the NFL draft? Quarterbacks? Coaches? Well,
Speaker 1: I talk about it all on the show. I used
Speaker 1: to work for Andy Reid as a scout. Now I
Speaker 1: give you my unfiltered and raw opinions on everything that
Speaker 1: goes on the NFL. And you know we're talking college
Speaker 1: football because of how important the draft is year round.
Speaker 1: Listen to the three and Out podcast with me John
Speaker 1: Middlecop on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Well, it's official. Buccaneers have brought back everybody,
Speaker 1: and I do mean everybody, and Tonio Brown coming back.
Speaker 1: He agreed on a one year deal with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: If you care about such things worth up to six
Speaker 1: point two five million dollars, He's guaranteed three point one
Speaker 1: million dollars, including a two point or at least a yeah,
Speaker 1: two million dollars signing Botters last year. At this time
Speaker 1: he was out of football and he was suspended, won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and now he got another contract. But
Speaker 1: you look back on the money that he gave up,
Speaker 1: or that he lost about thirty million dollars with what
Speaker 1: happened with the Raiders and subsequent issues. What a mist.
Speaker 1: Trey Land's going to join us on the program tomorrow.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite draft analyst, Daniel Jeremiah, will stop
Speaker 1: by as well. Jeff and Detroit. Hi, Jeff, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today? What up? Though? One time for chat row.
Speaker 1: I mean you've got an on air correction of birthday
Speaker 1: proclamation Laddin. How can I follow that? Man? I'm mean
Speaker 1: about goodness? Man, oh man, listen, chat Row wants to
Speaker 1: tell you congratulations on you and your son's nuptials to
Speaker 1: his new daughter. He picked up some awesome and laws
Speaker 1: and to witness two individuals getting married. Man, that's truly wonderful.
Speaker 1: It really is. Which boy Steve and Pete I was
Speaker 1: on earlier today? Man, my goodness, he could have hesitated
Speaker 1: with Sam. Who's the worst team? I mean, he was
Speaker 1: just detroit Lyons with no problem whatsoever the seventh tick.
Speaker 1: If Justin Fields falls to us, it would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: Me defending the Ohio quarterback seems funny, but I honestly
Speaker 1: believe it. Dwayne Haskins would have worked out in Washington.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't be having this discussion, all right, Well, thank you, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to those who
Speaker 1: remember Calvin Hayward who worked with me at ESPN. He
Speaker 1: was a director. He passed away, and in this business
Speaker 1: it's hard to go unscathed where you didn't have an
Speaker 1: enemy or somebody would say something negative about you. And Calvin,
Speaker 1: who we nicknamed would he was one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Light up the room, never made it about himself, selfless,
Speaker 1: wonderful director at the Mothership. Many many many nights eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock sports centers, he would be there in my ear
Speaker 1: directing me as we did Sports center. But Wood was
Speaker 1: a good man. And John Saunders is the one. I
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with John and Calvin, and
Speaker 1: you know, we were able to have great, real conversations,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it had to do with race.
Speaker 1: I remember Calvin was talking about that when he drove
Speaker 1: home at night. There was a restaurant bar that was
Speaker 1: right next to ESPN called the White Birch, and John
Speaker 1: would go over there after he did college basketball, and
Speaker 1: he would hold court and I'd go over there, and
Speaker 1: I remember Calvin would say, you know, I gotta get
Speaker 1: on the road, DWB, And I go, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: He goes driving well black because he had a BMW
Speaker 1: and he lived in the area that I lived. He loved,
Speaker 1: like two blocks away. But he said, you know, the
Speaker 1: later it is at night, nice car African American, he said, DWB.
Speaker 1: And I just remember he would always he would always
Speaker 1: bring that up, you know. But a good soul, really
Speaker 1: truly a good soul, and a lot of great memories,
Speaker 1: A lot of great memories this day in sports history.
Speaker 1: What do you have for me? You've got a few?
Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty one, The NFL shows can't Ohio has a
Speaker 1: site for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1: And Hank Aaron hit a six hundredth home run nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. Billy Martin was named manager of the New
Speaker 1: York Yankees for the fourth time eighty seven. Nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 1: the NBA expanded to both Charlotte in Miami. In nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight, they announced it. And let's see, Oh, there
Speaker 1: is a big one for hockey fans. Dale Hunter of
Speaker 1: the Caps blindside check on Pierre Turjon to the Islanders
Speaker 1: on May fourth. He got a twenty one game suspension.
Speaker 1: Very big deal the time. Yeah, let's see Zach in California. Heizach,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Well? Dan? Good more in
Speaker 1: the morning. Boys. I finished for sharing that information and
Speaker 1: before your loss with with your friends. And I was
Speaker 1: really calling to wish my wife a happy anniversary because
Speaker 1: it's our third anniversary today. But after what you just said,
Speaker 1: I felt really silly for you even mentioning it. But
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the hard work thing you do and
Speaker 1: and thanks for it the way you handle information like
Speaker 1: you just did. Thank you, Zach and Zack. Don't be
Speaker 1: afraid to wish your wife a happy birthday or anniversary.
Speaker 1: You know in person, you could do that, maybe make
Speaker 1: your dinner or something. You see some people wondering if
Speaker 1: Dustin Justin um set his dad up for failure, knowing
Speaker 1: that you would react poorly to birthday shout outs. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows you if you listen to the show, everybody knows
Speaker 1: you hate birthday shout outs. Maybe Dustin or Justin was like, hey, dad,
Speaker 1: call up and do this. It would really mean a
Speaker 1: lot to me, knowing that he was going to get roasted,
Speaker 1: which if that's the case, is tremendous. Tim and wisconsin him.
Speaker 1: What can I do for you today? Hey? DP, Actually
Speaker 1: this is dust and I'm sorry to correct you, but
Speaker 1: I was thinking about getting my wife a card and
Speaker 1: flower for our anniversary. But since we're able to just
Speaker 1: you know, give me a shoutouts to National radio, I thought,
Speaker 1: why don't I just fall in and wish her a
Speaker 1: happy through your anniversary too? So thanks for fitting me in.
Speaker 1: I love you, honey and I love all you Dan,
Speaker 1: that too, So okay, thank you guys, Well, thank you Tim.
Speaker 1: It's very cost efficient. You don't have to buy a gift,
Speaker 1: take her to dinner. You just call in and wish
Speaker 1: your happy anniversary. Yes, Ton, and you record that and
Speaker 1: you could play it back in the habit forever. Remember
Speaker 1: that special day when I was on national radio, wouldn't
Speaker 1: and said that to you. That's a little keepsake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I love hearing that, you know, being able
Speaker 1: to share those memories with you, because I should share
Speaker 1: memories with you, like a birthdate or an anniversary, because
Speaker 1: who do you think of when you think of a
Speaker 1: birthday or an anniverse? You think of me. But it's
Speaker 1: nice to be a part of the ceremony. He's keeping
Speaker 1: things interesting, spicing things up, you know. Yeah, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's not just Tim who's wishing his wife a
Speaker 1: happy anniversary. It's me. So now the marriage just got
Speaker 1: a little spicier there. But yeah, I'm I'm there for you,
Speaker 1: and I do love when you tell me how you
Speaker 1: started as a fan with your team. You know, it's
Speaker 1: another one when you you give me great detail one
Speaker 1: you know you got time, Dan, I want to tell
Speaker 1: you about you know how I became an Eagles fan.
Speaker 1: So it started in sixty seven and then then then
Speaker 1: sixty eight, seventy two. You know, I don't even like
Speaker 1: football at first. I just happen to go with the guys,
Speaker 1: and then I just fell in love with it. But
Speaker 1: to this game over time, Uh, let's see anything else
Speaker 1: I need to get to that. I didn't get to today. Anybody,
Speaker 1: anybody your MAV's uniforms. You love the I did. I
Speaker 1: like the MAVs. You nim gold piping. I don't think
Speaker 1: Golden State like the MAVs uniforms. Golden State. Let the
Speaker 1: MAVs go on a twenty eight to nothing run. That's
Speaker 1: hard to do, to go on a twenty eight point run.
Speaker 1: It's really hard to allow somebody to score twenty eight
Speaker 1: consecutive points in your Golden State. With Steph Curry there.
Speaker 1: Lebron would never let that. No, of course he wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: Michael wouldn't let that happen. Yes, Is it possible the
Speaker 1: Warriors were admiring their jerseys and they just didn't know
Speaker 1: what was going on. It's like, I don't understand the
Speaker 1: colors you have that has nothing to do with the Mavocks.
Speaker 1: Next thing, they know they gave up twenty HP points.
Speaker 1: You know we could have, we could have It's possible
Speaker 1: they'd be like, wow, look at these, Todd, we could
Speaker 1: have just done that maybe after the show, like we
Speaker 1: didn't need to. That's probably a post show comment. We
Speaker 1: just didn't. Then you say that's terrible. I'm gleageting state
Speaker 1: on the air. But yes, wait, they're They're probably three
Speaker 1: to five times each day when I say, oh, thank god,
Speaker 1: if you'd like submit these things before we get him
Speaker 1: are earlier in the morning. Here's a few things I
Speaker 1: was thinking about saying, and you can just kind of
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