WEBVTT - Draft Show: What’s the Scenario? 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:10.560 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:14.320 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.639 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.960 Today is Thursday, February twenty second, twenty twenty four, and 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.920 we are officially sixty three days away from the NFL 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.280 Draft in Detroit, Michigan. Welcome into the Draft Show presented 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.120 by Miller Lte as we continue to lead you up 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.600 to the NFL Draft. We've got plenty to talk about 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.800 today in a loaded show for you, so we're not 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:41.879 gonna waste a whole lot of time. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:42.960 We've got Bobby Belt. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.879 Brian brought us back in the fold here on this Thursday, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.240 Aisha Morrison and Nick Harris. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.440 Beam in the back. So, Brian, you said you couldn't 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:53.880 miss a show. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:56.480 Could miss show? You were still on vacation. I was 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.160 in California. Watch the show Tuesday. You guys did the 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.840 hell of a job. Uh my business wrapped up and 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.679 got back on a plane last night. And yes, I 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.039 could not miss this show. And I love the conversation 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.840 that we had. I was waiting at the airport and 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.440 we were fired texts at each other. I love the 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.399 passion and I think this is going to be a 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.480 hell of a show today sixty three days their scout, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.000 lady gee? 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.840 Or that you ready to roll? Yeah? You're muted? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.120 Down there a strike one for for Aisha Morrison in 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:26.400 the draft show this year. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:29.880 Down like three like that? 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.479 Is it still muted? 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:32.600 I want it? 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.840 I didn't press any buttons. I don't know what's going 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.479 on in the solar flare. It's the solar flare. That's 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.800 what it's getting us too, Is it there? 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:40.400 Now? 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.840 You sound better? Nice? 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:43.520 Anybody come to see you? 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:44.479 What were you gonna say? 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.000 I was no. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.559 I was saying, is it's sneaking up on us fast? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.920 But the dope things that combines next week, and that's 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.840 gonna put things in formation for us so we can 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.360 live our lives and start getting our boards together. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.680 Yeah, you know who's been putting their wards together. 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.680 And he sent me a text message last night he said, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.840 don't worry, I'm caught up. Now that's Bobby Belt coming 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:10.240 almost back. I would consider seventy plus players caught. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.360 Out by now that's close enough. It's not up to 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:12.880 Brian yet. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.000 What are you at Brian, I'm right over one hundred 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.400 and twenty five. Okay, that not cut but I was. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.639 He was at like eighty and I think it was 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.960 at like ten at one point. So we're gonna cut through. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.560 Who's the best player you watched this week? The best 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:32.840 player watched this week was probably man. I don't know 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.320 the wide receiver from Oregon. No, not the wide re 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.760 from Moregan. Probably. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:40.520 I mean, I really like klen Bullet. I know, I 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.720 know not everybody else does. Like I mean, I was 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.680 talking to Zach about him last night, and Zach is 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.160 just like, Nope, got to move in the corner. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.239 He's too thin, he's not physical enough. The usc kid, right, yeah, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:49.840 the USCA. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.639 You know what, It's funny because you say that, and uh, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.160 there was a discussion. Daniel Jeremiah had the discussion and 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.680 I tweeted at him about it. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.560 I think Daniel's got me on mute. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.240 I think he follows me, but he got me on 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:02.680 mute because he didn't answer back. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:05.040 He's usually pretty good about it. He's just really really busy. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.120 But we were talking about that that people were trying 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.840 to kind of figure out where to play him. Nickel 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:15.080 corner corner. You know the kids has incredible range, he 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.520 really really does. And he's got ball skills too. The 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.480 problem is, though you watch there's the tackling that occasionally. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.840 Will be a little bit hit and miss with him. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.240 Yeah, I just think true, like I mean, he's a 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.680 legitimate center fielder like that. To me, that's the thing 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.639 that I like about him. Obviously he's not He's got 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.600 the questions about the physicality, the size. He's very thin, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.120 but I think just overall long, lean, everything else like that, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.119 But he is somebody who I just think his ability 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.320 and coverage and the way that he sees things and 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.400 the way he can cover with range, that to me 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.160 is just really valuable. And I understand that the limitations 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:50.800 are there not to be you know, a box safety, 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.640 but to me, he's just he's the opposite of somebody 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.760 that you would talk about like Tyler Neuman or one 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.680 of these other box at safeties, where this is a 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.880 guy who can actually play centerfield, which I think is 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.080 a little more valuable into today's game than you know, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:02.400 what the strong safeties are doing. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.120 Yeah, so you think he's a true free. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.840 Yeah, yeah, I think he can play free. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.680 I put him in my free category. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.320 I mean, that's what I was about to say. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.800 I mean, and to your point, Bobby, I do think 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.200 there is values different depending on schame. There is value 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.599 to having a guy that can really take away, you know, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.760 the deep threat at a serious level, also take some 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:25.760 pressure off your corners. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:26.360 I would do it. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:27.120 Yeah. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.039 And we may talk a little bit more about Kalyn 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.080 Bullock here in a little bit as well, because we've 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.520 got some We've got some segments piece together one, two, three, 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.600 We've got three really fun ones for you today, and 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.760 we're gonna start things off. Brian brought this up in 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.680 our group message, a little stand or move, and we've 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.479 got some players that we want to throw out here. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.120 Every person has had a player that they would either 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.040 have at a Cowboys pick. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:51.800 Doesn't have to be a first rounder, right correct. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.760 So at this point you would say, would you rather 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.839 stay in and pick the player based off of the 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.360 prospect that's available, or maybe move out and go out 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:04.000 and pull the parachute back up, trade up or trade back? 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.039 I should say to get out of the spot. So Nick, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.360 I'll let you start things off. You had we threw 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.960 around four hundred names I felt like last night in 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.400 our group message, but Nick, I'll let you start. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.440 Yeah, we're gonna start this one off with Tyler Newman, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.240 the safety out of Minnesota. Just talking about him. He 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.320 a second ago. We've talked about him on this show 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.400 so much, I feel like in the last couple of weeks, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.400 but this is a situation where I want to emphasize it. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.320 He has a good combine next week and he jumps 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.080 up and he's that clear number one safety on the board, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.600 and there's kind of an overarching conclusion and that he 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.799 is that guy. He's available at twenty four. Your offensive 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.360 line options they're gone. This is the guy that the 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.800 draft room wants to look at and take right here. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:44.320 What do you do? 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:45.640 What do you do? Brian? 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.040 He's the best safety in the country to me. And 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.880 you know what, the thing now that we have to 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.839 determine and we got a new defensive coordinator, and how 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.000 important is the ability to the interchangeable parts. I think 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.240 this is a very interchangeable player, I really really do. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.720 I love the way he plays down hill, I love 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.320 the way he covers, I love the way he plays 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.720 with range. I do think this is the best safety 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.719 in the country. I'm standing I'm standing in and picking 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:10.080 the player. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:12.640 Yeah, you think so as well. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.000 It's hard for me to wrap my mind around the 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.000 fact that like safety is could be a need, but 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.159 it's like not a but. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.160 And if you're wiped out as your offensive lineman, uh okay, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.400 when you say wiped out in your offensive lineman, all 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.719 our sinners are the out of the picture right. 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.400 Now, Zach Fraser's on the board. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.440 Okay, see now that's the name I'm gonna I know 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.360 that maybe we're gonna get to that was a game 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:37.320 my throw at you. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:38.600 Yeah, but I would. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.320 I also will ask last year, when was the first 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:41.960 safety taken? 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.039 Second round? I thought, let me go back, was it 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:46.719 Brian Branch? 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.680 I think it was Brian. I think it was Brian. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.919 If it's Brian Branch, I was thirty one. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.440 No, I'm only asking you because we have we've seen 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.000 the safety position kind of. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.480 I saw him safety safety or a corner forty five. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.960 Yeah, So okay, because that's that's why I'm asking, because 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.120 I feel like safety has been this position. That's the 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.159 last couple of years. You see a lot of guys 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:08.840 fall about the first round now, so I just. 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.800 I know my personal opinion is this defense needs to 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.440 get better up the middle. Talking know it, and if 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.239 it means grabbing one of these you know, defensive tackles 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.560 from Texas, Grabbing that linebacker from Michigan every close years 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.840 kind of a thing. Grabbing a safety from Minnesota, get 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.320 better up the middle of this defense, right, you know, 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.160 Mike Zimber will figure things out. 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:33.680 You know. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.920 I just the interchangeable pieces with Nubid. If you give 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.840 me the opportunity to draft Nube to me, that's a 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.080 first round grade on my board. There's a certain round 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.960 I'm gonna have probably twenty twenty one to twenty four 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.160 first round grades, you know, depending on what medicals and 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:49.880 all that shake. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.040 Nuba is going to be one of those guys. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.800 You're letting me pick him inside my range of really 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:55.800 first round grades. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.160 By the way, Brian Branch forty five last year, if 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.280 you don't want to consider him a true safety, jar 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.000 Tavius Martin was drafted by Washington at forty seven. So 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.800 and I can see the comments already of this team 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.040 would never draft a safety in the first round, which 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.920 I can see that already on Twitter on whatever. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.600 But that could be the case. But he's a first 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:22.080 round right, she said, give me somebody that can help corners. 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.880 You know, give me somebody that you don't have to 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.120 worry about the ball going over the head, or you know, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.080 a physical player. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:31.400 You know this guy. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.520 He's a big hitter, he can cover, he's got range. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.960 There's a lot to like. This guy is a difference maker. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.040 I will argue that with anybody in a room. You know, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.280 if you tell me all the offensive linemen are gone, 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.959 with the exception of Fraser. Now, I'm I know how 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.040 bad I want a center. I mean, trust me, I'm 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.320 going to jump two size fourteen's up on this table 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.319 to get a center. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.600 But you know what, this kid right here makes. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.960 Me think a little little bit about how you know 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.800 how much better we could be with this type of 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:05.920 player on our defense. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.160 Yeah, you talk about his ability to come up from 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.200 that third level and be able to impact the play 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.920 from into the backfield. I mean, he's a guy that 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.120 affects all eleven players on the field. He's a guy 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.680 that can kind of be the quarterback of the defense 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.880 too later in his career. This is the guy you 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.000 want in the locker room. This is the guy you 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.640 want on a field. He's a guy that will start 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:22.520 day one wherever. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.960 He lands before we transition. Quick question, when is Mollie 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.640 Cooker's How long is his? 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.079 He's got one more year later. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.319 It was a two year deals that last offseason. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.319 Yeah, who's two year deal? 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:37.040 So I mean I think that means it does it 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:42.000 does him growing into you know, being that quarterback if necessary. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.800 I'm trying not to let Mollie Cooker affect me and 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:46.800 end up taking. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.319 A really good player. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:52.800 Yes, I know this organization has been hunting, hunting a 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.120 guy like number twenty eight, that used to player Darren 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:56.400 Woodson type of a player. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.800 His kid's got some of those traits. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.679 He doesn't have the maybe or the quickness, but the 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:07.240 way he attacks people, I would say that that you're 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.920 starting to there's some there's some similarities here. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:10.920 See I don't know. 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.000 I think when and I don't want to be wet 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.120 blanket guy all day to day. But for me, Nuban, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.480 like I think Newban's really really good and I think 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.880 Nuban does everything really well. I think he's really smart. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.480 I think a lot of the questions about like long 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.240 speed or some of those things, I think he can 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.920 make up with it just with just how like high 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:29.000 IQ he is and how quick his recognition is, but 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.280 like I do wonder just a little bit. The question 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.160 for me is like with the range, I know there 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.160 is some range there, but to me it's like I 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.480 think he's a little tight in some of his transitions. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.559 I don't know how quickly he turns he gets back. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.040 I don't know how well that's going to play at 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.280 the next level. To me, I think he's like if 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.559 you want to look at a much better player, I think, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.720 much better potential here. But to me, it's the same 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.400 sort of things with Donovan Wilson, where in terms of 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.000 being able to play things in front of him, not 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.240 necessarily being able to play things behind him, like to 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:56.880 have that Range's. 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.720 The instincts at all with Donovan Wilson. No, like I said, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:10:59.599 I don't. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.360 Better player, but I think same sort of thing of 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.560 plays better with the passing in front of him rather 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.880 than covering deep. I don't think he's center field. To me, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.920 I don't think he's just a box safety. But I 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:09.839 don't think he's just I don't think he's a pure like. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.120 I don't think he's got that center field range ability. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.280 His IQ is really high. He's able to compensate for 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.800 some of that get into position that way. But I 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.160 just I see tightness at times with him. I don't 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.920 see the long speed. I just wonder about how that 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:22.920 plays at the next level. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.839 Where would you play him if you had one spot 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.239 and you had to pigeonhole him into a spot. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.960 I mean he's he's more of a strong I think 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.680 that's how I view Hi's more of a strong safety. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.440 But I don't think he's like completely in capable. I 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.520 just I want to see the testing of the combine 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.600 for sure. I want to see how he's doing, like 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.080 I want to see what the three cone looks like. 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.439 I want to see what some of the forty stuff 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.199 looks like, the ten yard splits. I want to see 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.200 that explosiveness from him for sure. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.320 Where would you play him, Brian, I play M Free. 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.680 I think he's I think he's I say free, and 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.120 he's an interchangeable player to me. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.439 He's six two, he's two ten. You know he plays downhill. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.520 I've seen him cover, I've seen him carry, I've seen 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:57.880 him play in trail positions. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.280 You know, this guy's This guy's. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.200 Much better player than some of us are getting credit for. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.760 This is a good one. Nick to start off a 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.760 lot of stay or trade back. Are we picking the player? 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.640 I know you guys are picking Bobby orre you trading out? 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:12.680 You're trading out. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.400 I mean in the first round. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:21.520 This is first at twenty four. Yeah, decisions, decisions. Would 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:21.880 you pick them? 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.840 Yeah, I'm picking them at twenty four. I think if 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.679 you can get a guy that can come in first year, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.800 you're expecting jay Ron Curse to probably be out of 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.400 the equation. If you're taking a safety here in the 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.240 first round, that's a guy that can work in with 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.679 Mollie Cooker and Donovan Wilson this season, and then if 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.559 you want to move on from Ellie Cooker the year 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.079 after next, then you have a guy that can take 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.640 over center field. In my equation, I know I mentioned 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.120 it on the show a couple of weeks ago, but 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.800 I put a marker right on the center of my 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.440 computer and I just looked at hit the radius of 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.880 where he covers on the field, and it's it's it's 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.679 impressive to me. I think you can cover anywhere on 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.480 the field. I think I understand where you're coming from, though, Bobby, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.840 whenever you're talking about him covering things behind him. But 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.480 I think whenever you look at Big ten offenses and 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.920 what they were specializing to do. I don't think he 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.800 necessarily had to do that as often when he was tested, though, 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.280 I think you're right. I think it is just a 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.320 lack of experience there. I think a couple of years 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.000 in the league. I trust his abilities as instincts a 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.280 to be able to cover that eventually once he gets 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:15.760 well accustomed to the league. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:16.480 And I think. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.400 I'm with this edge of the table just because I 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:21.920 don't know what the rest of the board looks like, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.920 and if my offensive line is dried up, I would 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.560 be very, very inclined. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:27.640 To trade out. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.000 But he's a first round graded player on my board, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.679 and in terms of window dressing the board and not 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:34.240 window dressing it, I'm gonna stay in and pick. 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.680 You're gonna make me pick between him and a center. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.640 That's gonna be a hard thing for me to do 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.040 because I know how damn important center is here. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.920 You know That's that I mean? Now? 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.959 Is he is he? Am I going to pick him 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.839 over the Oregon Center? Probably not? Am I going to 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.480 pick him maybe over at the West Virginia Center. Fraser, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.040 Now we're now we're and maybe even the maybe even 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.080 the Duke potential center as well. So I you know, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.280 I'm was Barton available. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.199 It's up to you, guys. I don't know that. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.240 If he's available, I think I'm taking Barton. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.800 And I was throwing this equation in with the with 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.120 the idea that the offensive lineman that you would have 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.079 liked to take it twenty four going into the draft, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.719 they're all gone here. So if bar and one of 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:18.960 those guys said he's out of it, do you. 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.960 Have another position that you would take other than what 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.080 we're looking at right now? 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:25.680 I mean you're looking at the linebackers. 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.480 Are any of these linebackers better than what we're talking 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:29.160 about right now? 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:30.080 With Nuban that. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.600 You like, I think it will be closed as far 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.440 as Nuben goes. I do think it depends on schematically 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.000 what you think that Zim is going to be thrown 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:38.840 out there as well? 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.000 Though, Yeah, well he wants interchangeable safeties. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:42.840 He fits that mold. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:43.560 Yeah. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.840 Do you like him better than said the Texas A 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.080 and M linebacker? Right now? He driank Cooper Cooper? Yes, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.880 Nuban over Cooper? Yes? Oh yeah. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.920 I have a second round grade on Cooper and I 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.520 have a first round grade on new Aisha. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.000 I'm just safety. Safety is is something I'm struggling with 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.240 period in this draft. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.680 See, okay, you're not seeing it. You don't feel like 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:07.200 you're seeing him. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.480 See I see him. I see him. I have all 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.400 the those that you guys have said about him. I'm 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.080 just for me. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.560 I'm still I'm still debating on where he falls. Is 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:18.200 he's a first round pick or early early second. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.440 So we're gonna have to We're gonna have we would 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.360 have to convince her to take a safety. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:21.600 At twenty four. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.920 Yeah, it sounds like you're trading back. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:23.800 Yeah, you're moving. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.000 I'm just struggling with it. 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.360 I think I think I still gotta you guys, maybe 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.160 knows Zim a little bit better than what I do, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.760 but I'm still getting up to date on what he does. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.920 When you talk about inertrainable, yeah Zim, yeah Zimmer Reddick right, like, yeah, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.360 you talk about interchangeable, but what type of interchangeable? But 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.040 I one thing I did right down for Newban is like, yo, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.280 his IQ is high. You see him baiting paiding quarterbacks. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.400 His zone awareness is there as well, so he does 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.560 have the smarts to do it. 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.200 I Yeah, I think Zimmer is also trying to figure 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.840 out what type of scheme he's gonna play with. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.440 These players too. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.520 I don't think he really knows what's going I mean, 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.240 he does know what's going on, but. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.520 To your point, to your point, you think he could. 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.800 Be a guy that comes in and does Jaywan Curse 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.000 esque stuff. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:07.480 No, I don't believe. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:07.600 So. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.360 I think his long term projection for me, I want 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.360