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<v Speaker 1>Saturday's Kentucky, a Derby Day program the second highest in

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<v Speaker 1>to help us understand what what what went on on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday and also can look ahead to the twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>of the month. The running of the Preakness is David Papadopoulos.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a managing editor here at Bloomberg News and

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<v Speaker 1>David tell us all about the Kentucky Derby. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you sum it up and tell us what you came

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<v Speaker 1>away with? Well, for starters, some of that money that

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<v Speaker 1>record handled, there was unfortunately my money that was burnt

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<v Speaker 1>at the window. But um, you know, the winner, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say Nyquist was extremely impressive. I mean he is

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<v Speaker 1>now perfect eight for eight um, and he looked honestly

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<v Speaker 1>like a winner every step or every step around the

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<v Speaker 1>race track. And what what makes his victory even more

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<v Speaker 1>impressive than the one length victory it was in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>was that he was on top of a very very

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<v Speaker 1>fast early pace. They were flying up front. He was

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<v Speaker 1>right on top of that pace, and while most of

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<v Speaker 1>the horses around him collapse in exhaustion, cleaning the horses,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet on he kept going on and and he

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<v Speaker 1>won with something left in the tank. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you look, most and most of the horses that surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>him at the end near the finish line early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the race, they were in fifteen thirteen, nineteen, twelve, eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that tells you that you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you know, an awful lot of running early and

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot left like, what what does what does

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<v Speaker 1>this say about the pedigree the California Uh Quoti. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would say is this is they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to Uh I think they're name that people so you

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<v Speaker 1>get the full flavor. Well, so, um, this is now

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth time in five years that the winner has

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<v Speaker 1>not been bred in California but has been based in California.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the California Mafia between Doug O'Neal, this trainer here,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bob Bafford and some others. Um and they've really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taken this race over. I call it the

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<v Speaker 1>California Derby. Now, last year the California horses ran one

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<v Speaker 1>two three in this race. This year they ran first second,

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<v Speaker 1>um And the and the story itself is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what exactly why this trend has suddenly popped up.

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<v Speaker 1>It could just be tyranny of small data, could just

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<v Speaker 1>be some random event. Uh. The only thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>can come up with is, you know, the weather is

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<v Speaker 1>perfect year round in cow in California where they train,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that helps these horses stay in a regular

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<v Speaker 1>training regimen. But it's uh, it's become a something of

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<v Speaker 1>a phenomenon all of a sudden. Any other horses come

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<v Speaker 1>away from Derby Day with their reputations in half well

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<v Speaker 1>the second listen, they're only uh. In addition to nike

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<v Speaker 1>Quist going onto the Preakness in two weeks only a

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<v Speaker 1>couple other horses, apparently from the Derby are going to

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<v Speaker 1>go onto the Preakness. Exaggerator the second place finisher, the

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<v Speaker 1>the other California horse, and then the Japanese Japanese owned

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<v Speaker 1>horse Lonnie will go on. Exaggerator ran a very good race,

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<v Speaker 1>uh to come in second. He got a terrific setup.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was coming. He was way way out

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<v Speaker 1>of it early. And and that's where you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be when they're going as fast as they were. And

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<v Speaker 1>they did the opening quarter mile to give you an

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<v Speaker 1>idea in about twenty just over twenty two seconds. They

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<v Speaker 1>did the last as quarter mile in about twenty six seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give you an idea of how much you

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<v Speaker 1>know they were tiring up front. Uh, And and so

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<v Speaker 1>Exaggerated was in the place to be. He was way

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<v Speaker 1>out of it early, and he came he came running late. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he but he ran respectably enough. He's gonna try nike

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<v Speaker 1>Wist in the Preakness um. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>most everyone's been scared off by by Nike wist Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a distinct possibility. It took a thirty seven years

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<v Speaker 1>to get a triple Crown winner last year, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>impossible we get back to back triple Crown winners. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a standout horse. It's becoming clear every day and and

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<v Speaker 1>in a group of three year olds that's just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just okay uh, And that's often a formula to get

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<v Speaker 1>a triple Crown winner. Um and uh. He's also he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be He's gonna be very, very valuable because he

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<v Speaker 1>is winning big races and he is the son of

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<v Speaker 1>a young sire that is suddenly pretty much almost the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest young sire in all of Kentucky, and so being

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<v Speaker 1>an offspring of that red hot sire in Kentucky is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make him a very, very valuable animal in

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<v Speaker 1>the breeding shed. Fourteen entrants into the Preakness that they

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<v Speaker 1>do a maximum fourteen and they may get enough money

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<v Speaker 1>at Churchill, which to my mind is really too many

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<v Speaker 1>because he creates a lot of chaos, But fourteen would

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<v Speaker 1>be the maximum, and they may wind up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>number close to fourteen. But you tend to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of local horses from the Maryland area that are

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of okay. But when in terms of when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at real, real good horses challenging Nike was,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it's gonna be a huge field. Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be an enormous favorite in the Preakness. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if he was two to one on Kentucky Derby Day,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be one to two or two to five

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<v Speaker 1>in the Preakness. Meaning if you bet five, you bet

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<v Speaker 1>five for a chance to win two. And we do

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<v Speaker 1>have a sing at the race track, which is him.

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<v Speaker 1>If you already got the five, you don't need the two.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, but he'll be a big favorite. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, honestly, I can't tell you right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>see him getting beat. If he runs his race, he wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's no doubt about that. And he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the strength, as you say, to carry that all the

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<v Speaker 1>way through to the finish. He's been really impressive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was really impressive in this race. And then last

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<v Speaker 1>fall he was in this situation where he was in

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in an impossible spot and he just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kept down running. Thank you very much for spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with us. David Papantopholis, Managing editor a Bloomberg News

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<v Speaker 1>everything about force racing, and of course he'll be joining

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