Speaker 1: Jewis.
Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
Speaker 1: And everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that, right,
Speaker 1: l Hey, guys, what's up.
Speaker 2: It's Laura l. Rosa and this is the Latest with
Speaker 2: Laura L.
Speaker 1: Rosa.
Speaker 2: This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
Speaker 2: and all of the conversations that shake the room.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: Now today we are getting back into another part of
Speaker 2: a conversation that I had with Spiritual Leader podcaster Faith
Speaker 2: Leader Tim Ross and Noah Mills, who is a mental
Speaker 2: health advocate and former Miss Delaware, USA.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: But this time we're talking about the fact that you
Speaker 2: cannot pray it away. Now, a lot of y'all know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about when it comes to mental health things,
Speaker 2: when it comes to things you're dealing with, when it
Speaker 2: comes to the things that you were just going to
Speaker 2: the people and saying, hey, I need some help about
Speaker 2: we all been told just get down and pray, baby,
Speaker 2: that don't work.
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Talk a bit about because I'm saying, you know, you've
Speaker 3: been very intentional about even how you talk about therapy,
Speaker 3: comparing it to that regular health check ups, right, and
Speaker 3: doing this to your church.
Speaker 4: Praying away has been here for a very, very long time.
Speaker 3: What's been your battle with trying to turn the conversation
Speaker 3: away from praying away in your church, to get people
Speaker 3: into a space where they understand that no, something's wrong.
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to create safe spaces in church.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 5: This is so difficult, and it's a major frustration for
Speaker 5: me because in church we want to deal with present
Speaker 5: and future, like get safe, see what God did and
Speaker 5: what it's gonna do. Right, we quit to Jeremiah twenty
Speaker 5: nine eleven. Everybody go get tattooed Jeremi twenty nine eleven.
Speaker 5: If I know the good things that I have for you,
Speaker 5: said the Lord. And it's like, if we don't deal
Speaker 5: with this in the past, it's gonna mess up your
Speaker 5: present and your future work.
Speaker 6: But if you don't have a safe space to say
Speaker 6: what it is, then you can't even look.
Speaker 5: I got I was sexually abused by an older teenage
Speaker 5: boy when I was.
Speaker 1: Eight years old, Okay, for like a six month period
Speaker 1: of time.
Speaker 5: The only way to endure that kind of trauma at
Speaker 5: eight years old was to disassociate, So I was never
Speaker 5: present in my body because I had to survive my trauma.
Speaker 5: So I just disappeared. I just I'm gonna play basketball later.
Speaker 5: Let me think about that until this is over. So
Speaker 5: now I'm saved.
Speaker 1: All that trauma is still in my body, and I'm
Speaker 1: goosed to pray, what a way? Where where is it going?
Speaker 1: I was sexualized at eight? Where is that going? So
Speaker 1: I needed a safe space.
Speaker 5: The same space was created in my parents' house, who
Speaker 5: were both passors by occasionally.
Speaker 1: For fifteen years. My mom caught me looking.
Speaker 5: At porn at two o'clock in the morning, very embarrassing.
Speaker 5: When I take you caught, this is nineteen ninety five kart.
Speaker 5: This is VCR, VHS, box TV car. This ain't on
Speaker 5: your phone. You slip up real quick. This is fumbling
Speaker 5: with the remote. Mommy went to the room and priye.
Speaker 1: Because that's what she is. Mommy went to the room
Speaker 1: to priye. After I cleaned myself up, I walked into
Speaker 1: that room. I was a nineteen year old young man.
Speaker 5: But the eight year old finally talked to his mommy.
Speaker 1: I'd have been in silence for eleven years.
Speaker 5: The eight year old finally got to tell mommy where
Speaker 5: it hurt, my younger brother have been abused by the
Speaker 5: same guy, and then.
Speaker 1: Now it's a family emergency. At probably by.
Speaker 5: Four o'clock in the morning, my mom, my dad, me
Speaker 5: and my brother, we all got free.
Speaker 1: Because we wasn't trying to pray away nothing. We was
Speaker 1: processing pain.
Speaker 5: And after we had got everything up and out, now
Speaker 5: we knew exactly what to pray for.
Speaker 1: We are telling people to pray before they have.
Speaker 5: Time to process, and I can't properly pray until we
Speaker 5: have process exactly what's going on. So if you can't
Speaker 5: tell me where it's hurt, if the church could just
Speaker 5: get away, if we could just throw away unknown prayer
Speaker 5: requests or unspoken prayer requests, because after I got free,
Speaker 5: people will turn down to the altered crying, like you
Speaker 5: can tell the trauma's everybody.
Speaker 7: And then I'm like, what do you want prayer for?
Speaker 7: Whatever the word shows you. He was about to show
Speaker 7: me nothing. I'm not wasting out deserving on you because.
Speaker 1: You won't do this to your dentist. You don't do
Speaker 1: this to your doctor.
Speaker 5: You will walking there and be like, I got some
Speaker 5: puss coming out.
Speaker 1: But then you come down to the altar and then
Speaker 1: we're vague. Just you know, I just been struggling this
Speaker 1: week with what.
Speaker 4: Say it?
Speaker 5: Because whatever it doesn't come up and out of your
Speaker 5: mouth will come up and out through your body. And
Speaker 5: we don't want to send you home the same way
Speaker 5: you came. But if you can't say it.
Speaker 7: And the church, I know we've said the church is
Speaker 7: a hospital, but we also have to have altar workers
Speaker 7: who are not frightened by sickness.
Speaker 1: You would be crazy for a doctor to find out
Speaker 1: you got the flu and be like you, guys, you
Speaker 1: have the flu. So we have to stop being shocked
Speaker 1: by sins that sin.
Speaker 5: Manifest So I wanted to.
Speaker 4: Take your time to open up for audience questions. Now
Speaker 4: you could just come to the mic you have, can
Speaker 4: you hear me now?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: Alright?
Speaker 9: You were on the leader's cut and you were talking
Speaker 9: about how you started the basement that right, and you
Speaker 9: had provision right, and you realize.
Speaker 1: That you're back your friend's uh church.
Speaker 9: And he ain't tell you to do it right, and
Speaker 9: you said that you started and you realized that you
Speaker 9: had to turn around. Did you receive a man from
Speaker 9: God and then I a director or did you just
Speaker 9: know the turnaround and what told did that take or
Speaker 9: any on your mental health?
Speaker 10: Did you feel shaming? Did you have to contact that?
Speaker 10: And then how did you go out of the people
Speaker 10: around you? Okay, so, thank you so much. Give me
Speaker 10: your name, Sean Ay, I love you.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I gotta give you all context of this
Speaker 6: very very quickly.
Speaker 1: Before I answered this question.
Speaker 5: So, I started a business with my friend and business
Speaker 5: partner in late twenty twenty three. We started this company
Speaker 5: and by January of twenty five, I had to depart
Speaker 5: from the company, and I was very angry.
Speaker 1: It was very hurtful.
Speaker 5: The way we had to bore our separate rays was
Speaker 5: really on my nerves. Anyway, in July, while I'm on
Speaker 5: my sabbatical, my friend Chris Durso has to preach out
Speaker 5: of church and he preaches this message called.
Speaker 1: What Haven't written down Well? And let me give you
Speaker 1: the chapter Joshua.
Speaker 5: Chapter number nine is where Joshua goes into covenant with
Speaker 5: the Gibbea Knights, but he does not consult the Lord.
Speaker 1: Okay. So, while while.
Speaker 5: I'm listening to this message that Chris is preaching, the
Speaker 5: Holy Spirit says to me, you didn't consult me before.
Speaker 1: You start at that company, and that's why it's failed.
Speaker 5: You did not get a word from me, And I
Speaker 5: was like, you know that ugly pride comes in is
Speaker 5: utanously when the Lord corrects you. So not only am
Speaker 5: I honestly as a son, I'm thankful for the Lord's
Speaker 5: correction because he disciplines those that he loves. Secondly, though,
Speaker 5: I was so embarrassed, like how did I miss you?
Speaker 1: Like I try to be so careful, how did I
Speaker 1: miss you?
Speaker 5: And what he said was, you mistook your friend's provision.
Speaker 1: Because my friend was a multi millionaire.
Speaker 5: You mistook his provision as God's confirmation. And I grew
Speaker 5: up in a Pentecostal church that says, where there is vision,
Speaker 5: there is provision. And he said, you mistook his provision
Speaker 5: as a word from God.
Speaker 1: But ten, only a word from God is a word
Speaker 1: from God. Provision is not a word from God. And
Speaker 1: so after.
Speaker 5: I cried and repented and told my wife and told
Speaker 5: my kids, and ultimately told our entire audience, which that's
Speaker 5: how y'all found out, right.
Speaker 1: And my staff and stuff. I didn't deal.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I felt very hurt and disappointed that I missed
Speaker 5: God like that. I didn't feel guilt or shame. But
Speaker 5: what happened was afterwards I didn't trust myself for and
Speaker 5: to be honest, I still don't trust myself to hear
Speaker 5: God as confidently as I did in the past.
Speaker 1: So what I've told the Lord very honestly is.
Speaker 5: I don't trust myself now like I don't move with
Speaker 5: the faith of Abraham right now.
Speaker 1: I move with the fleeces of Giddion right now. Please
Speaker 1: hold the spirit.
Speaker 5: Don't be mad that I'm gonna need eighteenth confirmations before
Speaker 5: I think this is you again because I missed it
Speaker 5: so bad.
Speaker 1: I just I just want to know that this is
Speaker 1: you for real, for real, for real. So I hope
Speaker 1: that helps.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, so tim really quickly, Now that I
Speaker 3: hear you speak and see how you act, I completely
Speaker 3: understand now why people don't believe when I say I'm introverted.
Speaker 3: So my question is, as someone who's introverted and navigating
Speaker 3: a major shift in my content from what I thought
Speaker 3: my niche would be to what God is now calling
Speaker 3: me to speak on, how do I reconcile the discomfort
Speaker 3: of visibility with obedience, especially when the new direction feels
Speaker 3: emotionally heavier and spiritually.
Speaker 5: Deeper, man ask clarifying questions, what was your niche?
Speaker 3: My niche prior would be more so like well before
Speaker 3: I got saved pastor I guess you would say.
Speaker 4: Like it would look kind of hot, girlish, like you know,
Speaker 4: out living life.
Speaker 1: Doing whatever for sure? And what is it going to
Speaker 1: be now?
Speaker 3: More centered around like mental health, fitness for wellness, a
Speaker 3: little bit of fitness, and just like navigating life while
Speaker 3: including the Lord but also understanding that things.
Speaker 1: Happen gotta and what is the tension you're struggling with it?
Speaker 3: So right now it feels spiritually deeper and emotionally heavier
Speaker 3: because I am introverted and I have a tendency to
Speaker 3: shrink myself because I can be surface level like.
Speaker 1: You made nobody else. She's sociable, but she's not personable,
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 5: So when you make this transition, you're gonna lose some people,
Speaker 5: right because people meet you in one phase of your life, yeah,
Speaker 5: and that's where they want to keep you.
Speaker 1: And if you change at all, they're.
Speaker 5: Like you were eating fish and now you're eating tacos.
Speaker 1: I don't like you anymore. Unsubscribed.
Speaker 8: Right now that you have this assignment, you need to
Speaker 8: approach it with the mindset.
Speaker 1: Of an assignment.
Speaker 5: I am doing this intentionally because I know that this
Speaker 5: is what God has me to do. I would rather
Speaker 5: not be doing this, but obedience is better than sacrifice.
Speaker 5: So the mindset that you take is not one of like,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I don't have that mindset when it
Speaker 5: comes to anything God tells me to do. But I
Speaker 5: understand this is my assignment. I'm gonna do it. And
Speaker 5: when I'm done doing this, I get to disappear.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Yes, when I see people in public, I will take
Speaker 1: all the photos. I will hug. I will do because
Speaker 1: I'm grateful.
Speaker 5: I'm genuinely grateful that they're watching the content.
Speaker 1: They don't need to know that they're wearing me out.
Speaker 6: All of y'all are white men, wearing me out.
Speaker 5: You're just sitting looking and then I'm tired of all
Speaker 5: of you.
Speaker 1: Right now. But I will hug all.
Speaker 5: Of y'all and tell y'all love you and need it.
Speaker 5: But just the way that I'm wired, I recharge alone.
Speaker 5: I don't recharge in a room full of people. I
Speaker 5: recharge by myself. So when my son and I get
Speaker 5: back to the hotel room, he's gonna watch Corey Kitchen,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to watch something else on YouTube, our
Speaker 5: private catchen under some panels episode and.
Speaker 1: We're gonna chop. So, so just make sure that your.
Speaker 5: Assignment does it become something you think you're obligated to be.
Speaker 1: You are not your assignment. You are doing your assignment.
Speaker 1: So I hope that up.
Speaker 11: How you doing, simois to make sure that's old your day?
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you. What's your name? My name is
Speaker 1: Heabie mcghim. It's a pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 1: I love you. Thank you. Thank so. First thing is
Speaker 1: the lastual mental health therapist, so this was near and
Speaker 1: dear to me. Thank you. Thank you for the work
Speaker 1: you do because you saved our lives. Thank you.
Speaker 5: Right, there's something you said earlier about trying to press
Speaker 5: the wrong people.
Speaker 1: And one thing I've noticed when I'm doing therapy with
Speaker 1: my clients.
Speaker 5: And actually experienced to myself a lot recently, is understanding.
Speaker 1: Who your audience is. How do you think that.
Speaker 5: Equates with a lot of us when we are starting
Speaker 5: to follow the life path, getting imposter syndrome and wondering
Speaker 5: if we're actually doing what we're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: You know, are we worthy of doing that? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I am a big believer in having a target audience.
Speaker 1: I have never not had a target audience ever.
Speaker 5: The reason why now we don't like those that kind
Speaker 5: of language in church because it feels very business and corporaty.
Speaker 1: Like you ask a church, you know, as a leader
Speaker 1: of our ass a leader.
Speaker 5: Of a church where you call to reach, I'm called
Speaker 5: to reach the whole city.
Speaker 1: The whole city don't like you. And even if they did,
Speaker 1: the building, they're big enoughs. So you're not. You're delucial.
Speaker 1: You don't have a target. Jesus had a target audience.
Speaker 5: His target audience wasn't us, it wasn't Gentimes.
Speaker 1: It was the lost sheep of Israel. And because he
Speaker 1: focused on them, we all got it.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 1: If you don't focus on nobody, you ain't gonna reach
Speaker 1: it nobody, right, So you have to know who your
Speaker 1: target audience is.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you my who my two target audiences
Speaker 5: were and then are Yeah it was and is, And
Speaker 5: then I'll give you the impostile syndrome party.
Speaker 1: So when I was a lead pastor for the seven years.
Speaker 5: When I was a lead pastor, I was talking to
Speaker 5: a thirty year old Irish biracial girl whose.
Speaker 1: Father was black and whose mother was white.
Speaker 5: She had a master's level education, and she loved God
Speaker 5: and was looking for a community. That's who I preach
Speaker 5: to every weekend. I wasn't preaching to nobody else. I
Speaker 5: was speaking to a light skinned by racial chick every weekend.
Speaker 5: And the church was filled from twenty year olds to
Speaker 5: eighty year olds because I was talking to her.
Speaker 1: My theology was for her.
Speaker 13: Because she was gonna she was She was already popular
Speaker 13: with her friends, so she's gonna bring up friends to
Speaker 13: church because she was cute. She's gonna get some dude,
Speaker 13: and some dudes gonna come in, not because he liked me,
Speaker 13: but because like her.
Speaker 1: But when he came in and hear me, he was
Speaker 1: gonna be like that in a career.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, prej' can I hear that. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5: Please forgive me. I forgot where I was for half
Speaker 5: a second. Lisa, I know I owe you one hundred dollars.
Speaker 5: Two hundred dollars, yes, ma'am, I'm gonna give you three,
Speaker 5: just to make sure, okay.
Speaker 6: So by focusing on her, that's how the church grew
Speaker 6: as a podcaster.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a twenty five.
Speaker 5: Year old guy who doesn't have a dad, And that's
Speaker 5: all I'm talking to every day. It's a twenty five
Speaker 5: year old who doesn't have a dad. Now at fifty
Speaker 5: years old, where does my imposter syndrome creep in? Why
Speaker 5: am I talking to these people? Yeah, surely somebody else
Speaker 5: can do this younger, cooler or relevant.
Speaker 1: Why is it me? It shouldn't be me. God, I tried.
Speaker 5: I think my time has passed, and the Lord's like, no,
Speaker 5: I still need.
Speaker 1: You here, stop playing with me.
Speaker 8: So it is the.
Speaker 5: You have to you have to be convinced that this
Speaker 5: is what he has called you to do. Okay, thank
Speaker 5: you on the spirit, and don't make it deeper than
Speaker 5: your sonship.
Speaker 1: With God, right right?
Speaker 5: Mental health professional podcaster Miss Delaware.
Speaker 1: Stuff.
Speaker 5: She has so many hyphenics around what she was doing.
Speaker 5: Let's not make it any bigger than I'm a son.
Speaker 5: These are daughters, and we're brothers and sisters, because if not,
Speaker 5: then it's like then it's like how many followers you got?
Speaker 1: And well my platform.
Speaker 5: Is not as big as we all sons and daughters
Speaker 5: doing what he told us to do.
Speaker 1: And just being he told us to do there, So
Speaker 1: that's how I get over my IMPOSSI set. I hope
Speaker 1: that's helpful.
Speaker 14: Thank you for being here and sharing your wisdom with
Speaker 14: us and being part.
Speaker 1: Of our healing journey. God bless you both.
Speaker 14: My question is, how do you when God is transitioning
Speaker 14: you through different seasons of life, how do you practical
Speaker 14: ways to basically redefining yourself setting finding your place in
Speaker 14: the world, and truly finding the purpose and calling that
Speaker 14: He has for your life in this new season?
Speaker 8: No one will take it.
Speaker 4: He's giving me the spirit pagers to tell me it's me.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 11: I want to say I love your question because I
Speaker 11: just identified with what you're saying so.
Speaker 1: Topingly.
Speaker 11: Before I became this devia where I speak briefly about
Speaker 11: being a clinical depression for six months that took me
Speaker 11: out of college, and I was so badly upset with
Speaker 11: God about a season in my life that I didn't
Speaker 11: understand what He was.
Speaker 1: Doing with me.
Speaker 4: And after I got out of that, I was continuing
Speaker 4: to do my work.
Speaker 11: And after I was present for the suicide attempt at
Speaker 11: my owner sibling, you know a lot of these things.
Speaker 11: Everything kept pointing up and down and one thing will
Speaker 11: happen bad, one thing will happen great, one thing will
Speaker 11: happen bad.
Speaker 4: I'll say, God, I'm.
Speaker 1: On a right track.
Speaker 4: Remember what am I doing? What's going on? I have
Speaker 4: so many questions.
Speaker 11: And one of the things that I want to tell
Speaker 11: you that I've hope encourages your spirits sincerely, is a
Speaker 11: miss up, down, good, bad, not understanding if this is
Speaker 11: what I was supposed to be doing, or if it
Speaker 11: feels right, or if it's making sense to me.
Speaker 4: It's not a shock to God.
Speaker 11: He has charted your path way before you got to
Speaker 11: this season and the last season.
Speaker 4: He's going to be with during the.
Speaker 11: Next season, and every single step that you take. As
Speaker 11: it's confusing to you, as you don't know what's next,
Speaker 11: as you're concerned about who's leaving and who's coming and
Speaker 11: why I don't know what the next step is. God's
Speaker 11: already counseled to have peace over the fact that you're
Speaker 11: not God and you do not have.
Speaker 8: To be.
Speaker 1: Material.
Speaker 12: Last panel revolving around friendships, and this question is more
Speaker 12: specific to Noah as one of my closest friends.
Speaker 1: You were.
Speaker 12: A light in my life during one of the lowest
Speaker 12: points in my life going through so much mental challenges,
Speaker 12: fertility issues. You were that one of my friends that
Speaker 12: were just there for me, and so this.
Speaker 14: Brought me to ask me questions about and took notes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when we're.
Speaker 12: In a certain kind of pain, it's really hard to
Speaker 12: let people in, even the ones that you really care about.
Speaker 12: But how did your faith God you and showing up
Speaker 12: for me? Then my question as pertaining to for the
Speaker 12: whole audience, what advice would you give to others and
Speaker 12: the church You want to support loved ones without making
Speaker 12: them feel like a burden.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I love this question. This is Caitlyn.
Speaker 11: Everybody, everybody say, Hikitland, wonderful, afraid guys.
Speaker 1: I love Caitlyn.
Speaker 11: Me and Calyn have been friends for quite some time
Speaker 11: and we get to walk through life together.
Speaker 4: The same light that she feels up in to her
Speaker 4: she's been to me. So grateful for you.
Speaker 11: Thank you for being here today. The faith in me that.
Speaker 4: Caused me to show up in your season was because.
Speaker 11: My commitment to who God called me to be had
Speaker 11: nothing to do with your lack of ability to let
Speaker 11: people in.
Speaker 4: There are times where you have to be the Christ
Speaker 4: to your neighbor.
Speaker 11: You sincerely have to take responsibility for the people in
Speaker 11: your community. I'm not saying make everybody in this room
Speaker 11: your responsibility, but your individual personal circle. When it's about mine,
Speaker 11: I'm at the door. I don't even know about everybody else.
Speaker 11: And Kayln's season that she's so shared transparently and not
Speaker 11: understanding her fertility journey and being diagnosed.
Speaker 1: With get to be triosis.
Speaker 11: She didn't know what every day was gonna come with,
Speaker 11: and sometimes she dinna have the words. I had the
Speaker 11: understanding from God to go over to her house and
Speaker 11: bring her food. I had the understanding from God to
Speaker 11: go over to the house and check on her, to
Speaker 11: call her.
Speaker 4: To text her, to make sure she was okay.
Speaker 11: I'm not asking anybody to go get the moon out
Speaker 11: of the sky and bring it back.
Speaker 4: What I am asking you to do is.
Speaker 11: Make sure your walk with Christ is applicable in your
Speaker 11: everyday life.
Speaker 4: There are some things that we just make way too
Speaker 4: big of anything.
Speaker 11: Nobody asked she just gather on this fool pit next
Speaker 11: Sunday and come.
Speaker 1: With a sermon.
Speaker 11: I didn't ad to jump and do twelve backflips or
Speaker 11: tumbled across the stage.
Speaker 4: Or come here with a song. And dance in my
Speaker 4: private life.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm.
Speaker 11: Assigned to klin. So if she doesn't have the words,
Speaker 11: well I guess I'm gonna go figure out what she
Speaker 11: has to say. If she doesn't have anything but tears,
Speaker 11: well I guess I'm supposed to sit here. If she
Speaker 11: guess she doesn't know how to say, she hasn't eaten
Speaker 11: to that, well I'm gonna make sure I drop something.
Speaker 11: I'm just cause she didn't. But in my heart, to
Speaker 11: honor God, you have to make sure that the people
Speaker 11: in your life, if you love them like you say
Speaker 11: you do, be about it.
Speaker 1: Not in the good seasons, not in the bad seasons,
Speaker 1: not when it gets.
Speaker 4: Fine, not when there's a camera overund not gonna will
Speaker 4: here standing here and there as an opportunity.
Speaker 11: There would be no need for one another to be
Speaker 11: in each other's lives if God didn't know we needed
Speaker 11: each other.
Speaker 4: Can a person walk with them and be allowed out
Speaker 4: of them? You're got a friend on that, No, guys,
Speaker 4: I've enjoyed just listening to you, guys. I thought both
Speaker 4: of you guys are amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. You guys enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm Laurna Rosa. This is the latest with Laura Rosa.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I tell you, guys,
Speaker 2: every episode my Lowriders, y'all could be anywhere with anybody
Speaker 2: having a conversation about this, but y'all choose to be
Speaker 2: right here with me. I appreciate y'all for that. I
Speaker 2: will catch you in my next episode.