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Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.

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Speaker 2: It's Laura l. Rosa and this is the Latest with

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Speaker 2: and all of the conversations that shake the room.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 2: Now today we are getting back into another part of

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Speaker 2: a conversation that I had with Spiritual Leader podcaster Faith

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Speaker 2: Leader Tim Ross and Noah Mills, who is a mental

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Speaker 2: health advocate and former Miss Delaware, USA.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: But this time we're talking about the fact that you

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Speaker 2: cannot pray it away. Now, a lot of y'all know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about when it comes to mental health things,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to things you're dealing with, when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the things that you were just going to

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Speaker 2: the people and saying, hey, I need some help about

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Speaker 2: we all been told just get down and pray, baby,

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Speaker 2: that don't work.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Talk a bit about because I'm saying, you know, you've

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Speaker 3: been very intentional about even how you talk about therapy,

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Speaker 3: comparing it to that regular health check ups, right, and

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Speaker 3: doing this to your church.

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Speaker 4: Praying away has been here for a very, very long time.

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Speaker 3: What's been your battle with trying to turn the conversation

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Speaker 3: away from praying away in your church, to get people

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Speaker 3: into a space where they understand that no, something's wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to create safe spaces in church.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: This is so difficult, and it's a major frustration for

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Speaker 5: me because in church we want to deal with present

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Speaker 5: and future, like get safe, see what God did and

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Speaker 5: what it's gonna do. Right, we quit to Jeremiah twenty

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Speaker 5: nine eleven. Everybody go get tattooed Jeremi twenty nine eleven.

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Speaker 5: If I know the good things that I have for you,

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Speaker 5: said the Lord. And it's like, if we don't deal

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Speaker 5: with this in the past, it's gonna mess up your

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Speaker 5: present and your future work.

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Speaker 6: But if you don't have a safe space to say

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Speaker 6: what it is, then you can't even look.

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Speaker 5: I got I was sexually abused by an older teenage

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Speaker 5: boy when I was.

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Speaker 1: Eight years old, Okay, for like a six month period

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Speaker 5: The only way to endure that kind of trauma at

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Speaker 5: eight years old was to disassociate, So I was never

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Speaker 5: present in my body because I had to survive my trauma.

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Speaker 5: So I just disappeared. I just I'm gonna play basketball later.

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Speaker 5: Let me think about that until this is over. So

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Speaker 5: now I'm saved.

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Speaker 1: All that trauma is still in my body, and I'm

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Speaker 1: goosed to pray, what a way? Where where is it going?

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Speaker 1: I was sexualized at eight? Where is that going? So

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Speaker 1: I needed a safe space.

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Speaker 5: The same space was created in my parents' house, who

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Speaker 5: were both passors by occasionally.

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Speaker 1: For fifteen years. My mom caught me looking.

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Speaker 5: At porn at two o'clock in the morning, very embarrassing.

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Speaker 5: When I take you caught, this is nineteen ninety five kart.

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Speaker 5: This is VCR, VHS, box TV car. This ain't on

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Speaker 5: your phone. You slip up real quick. This is fumbling

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Speaker 5: with the remote. Mommy went to the room and priye.

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Speaker 1: Because that's what she is. Mommy went to the room

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Speaker 5: But the eight year old finally talked to his mommy.

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Speaker 1: I'd have been in silence for eleven years.

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Speaker 5: The eight year old finally got to tell mommy where

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Speaker 5: it hurt, my younger brother have been abused by the

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Speaker 5: same guy, and then.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a family emergency. At probably by.

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Speaker 5: Four o'clock in the morning, my mom, my dad, me

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Speaker 5: and my brother, we all got free.

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Speaker 1: Because we wasn't trying to pray away nothing. We was

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Speaker 5: And after we had got everything up and out, now

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Speaker 5: we knew exactly what to pray for.

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Speaker 1: We are telling people to pray before they have.

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Speaker 5: Time to process, and I can't properly pray until we

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Speaker 5: have process exactly what's going on. So if you can't

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Speaker 5: tell me where it's hurt, if the church could just

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Speaker 5: requests or unspoken prayer requests, because after I got free,

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Speaker 5: people will turn down to the altered crying, like you

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Speaker 5: can tell the trauma's everybody.

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Speaker 7: And then I'm like, what do you want prayer for?

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Speaker 7: Whatever the word shows you. He was about to show

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Speaker 7: me nothing. I'm not wasting out deserving on you because.

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Speaker 1: You won't do this to your dentist. You don't do

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Speaker 1: this to your doctor.

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Speaker 5: You will walking there and be like, I got some

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Speaker 1: But then you come down to the altar and then

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Speaker 1: we're vague. Just you know, I just been struggling this

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Speaker 1: week with what.

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Speaker 4: Say it?

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Speaker 5: Because whatever it doesn't come up and out of your

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Speaker 5: mouth will come up and out through your body. And

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Speaker 5: we don't want to send you home the same way

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Speaker 5: you came. But if you can't say it.

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Speaker 7: And the church, I know we've said the church is

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Speaker 7: a hospital, but we also have to have altar workers

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Speaker 7: who are not frightened by sickness.

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Speaker 1: You would be crazy for a doctor to find out

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Speaker 1: you got the flu and be like you, guys, you

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Speaker 1: have the flu. So we have to stop being shocked

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Speaker 1: by sins that sin.

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Speaker 5: Manifest So I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Take your time to open up for audience questions. Now

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Speaker 4: you could just come to the mic you have, can

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Speaker 4: you hear me now?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Alright?

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Speaker 9: You were on the leader's cut and you were talking

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Speaker 9: about how you started the basement that right, and you

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Speaker 9: had provision right, and you realize.

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Speaker 1: That you're back your friend's uh church.

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Speaker 9: And he ain't tell you to do it right, and

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Speaker 9: you said that you started and you realized that you

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Speaker 9: had to turn around. Did you receive a man from

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Speaker 9: God and then I a director or did you just

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Speaker 9: know the turnaround and what told did that take or

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Speaker 9: any on your mental health?

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Speaker 10: Did you feel shaming? Did you have to contact that?

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Speaker 10: And then how did you go out of the people

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Speaker 10: around you? Okay, so, thank you so much. Give me

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Speaker 10: your name, Sean Ay, I love you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I gotta give you all context of this

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Speaker 6: very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Before I answered this question.

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Speaker 5: So, I started a business with my friend and business

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Speaker 5: partner in late twenty twenty three. We started this company

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Speaker 5: and by January of twenty five, I had to depart

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Speaker 5: from the company, and I was very angry.

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Speaker 1: It was very hurtful.

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Speaker 5: The way we had to bore our separate rays was

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Speaker 5: really on my nerves. Anyway, in July, while I'm on

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Speaker 5: my sabbatical, my friend Chris Durso has to preach out

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Speaker 5: of church and he preaches this message called.

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Speaker 1: What Haven't written down Well? And let me give you

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Speaker 1: the chapter Joshua.

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Speaker 5: Chapter number nine is where Joshua goes into covenant with

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Speaker 5: the Gibbea Knights, but he does not consult the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So, while while.

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Speaker 5: I'm listening to this message that Chris is preaching, the

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Speaker 5: Holy Spirit says to me, you didn't consult me before.

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Speaker 1: You start at that company, and that's why it's failed.

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Speaker 5: You did not get a word from me, And I

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Speaker 5: was like, you know that ugly pride comes in is

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Speaker 5: utanously when the Lord corrects you. So not only am

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Speaker 5: I honestly as a son, I'm thankful for the Lord's

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Speaker 5: correction because he disciplines those that he loves. Secondly, though,

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Speaker 5: I was so embarrassed, like how did I miss you?

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Speaker 1: Like I try to be so careful, how did I

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Speaker 1: miss you?

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Speaker 5: And what he said was, you mistook your friend's provision.

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Speaker 1: Because my friend was a multi millionaire.

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Speaker 5: You mistook his provision as God's confirmation. And I grew

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Speaker 5: up in a Pentecostal church that says, where there is vision,

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Speaker 5: there is provision. And he said, you mistook his provision

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Speaker 5: as a word from God.

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Speaker 1: But ten, only a word from God is a word

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Speaker 1: from God. Provision is not a word from God. And

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Speaker 1: so after.

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Speaker 5: I cried and repented and told my wife and told

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Speaker 5: my kids, and ultimately told our entire audience, which that's

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Speaker 5: how y'all found out, right.

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Speaker 1: And my staff and stuff. I didn't deal.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, I felt very hurt and disappointed that I missed

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Speaker 5: God like that. I didn't feel guilt or shame. But

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Speaker 5: what happened was afterwards I didn't trust myself for and

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Speaker 5: to be honest, I still don't trust myself to hear

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Speaker 1: So what I've told the Lord very honestly is.

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Speaker 5: I don't trust myself now like I don't move with

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Speaker 5: the faith of Abraham right now.

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Speaker 1: I move with the fleeces of Giddion right now. Please

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Speaker 5: Don't be mad that I'm gonna need eighteenth confirmations before

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Speaker 5: I think this is you again because I missed it

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Speaker 5: so bad.

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Speaker 1: I just I just want to know that this is

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Speaker 1: you for real, for real, for real. So I hope

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know, so tim really quickly, Now that I

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Speaker 3: hear you speak and see how you act, I completely

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Speaker 3: understand now why people don't believe when I say I'm introverted.

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Speaker 3: So my question is, as someone who's introverted and navigating

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Speaker 3: my niche would be to what God is now calling

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Speaker 3: me to speak on, how do I reconcile the discomfort

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Speaker 3: of visibility with obedience, especially when the new direction feels

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Speaker 3: emotionally heavier and spiritually.

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Speaker 5: Deeper, man ask clarifying questions, what was your niche?

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Speaker 3: My niche prior would be more so like well before

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Speaker 3: I got saved pastor I guess you would say.

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Speaker 4: Like it would look kind of hot, girlish, like you know,

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Speaker 1: Doing whatever for sure? And what is it going to

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Speaker 1: be now?

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Speaker 3: More centered around like mental health, fitness for wellness, a

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Speaker 3: little bit of fitness, and just like navigating life while

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Speaker 3: including the Lord but also understanding that things.

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Speaker 1: Happen gotta and what is the tension you're struggling with it?

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Speaker 3: So right now it feels spiritually deeper and emotionally heavier

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Speaker 3: because I am introverted and I have a tendency to

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Speaker 3: shrink myself because I can be surface level like.

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Speaker 1: You made nobody else. She's sociable, but she's not personable,

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Speaker 1: got it.

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Speaker 5: So when you make this transition, you're gonna lose some people,

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Speaker 5: right because people meet you in one phase of your life, yeah,

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Speaker 5: and that's where they want to keep you.

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Speaker 1: And if you change at all, they're.

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Speaker 5: Like you were eating fish and now you're eating tacos.

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Speaker 1: I don't like you anymore. Unsubscribed.

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Speaker 8: Right now that you have this assignment, you need to

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Speaker 8: approach it with the mindset.

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Speaker 1: Of an assignment.

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Speaker 5: I am doing this intentionally because I know that this

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Speaker 1: Yes, when I see people in public, I will take

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Speaker 5: Assignment does it become something you think you're obligated to be.

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Speaker 5: His target audience wasn't us, it wasn't Gentimes.

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Speaker 1: If you don't focus on nobody, you ain't gonna reach

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Speaker 13: Because she was gonna she was She was already popular

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Speaker 5: a second. Lisa, I know I owe you one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 5: Two hundred dollars, yes, ma'am, I'm gonna give you three,

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Speaker 6: So by focusing on her, that's how the church grew

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to a twenty five.

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Speaker 5: am I talking to these people? Yeah, surely somebody else

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Speaker 1: With God, right right?

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Speaker 5: Mental health professional podcaster Miss Delaware.

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Speaker 5: She has so many hyphenics around what she was doing.

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Speaker 5: Let's not make it any bigger than I'm a son.

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Speaker 8: No one will take it.

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Speaker 4: He's giving me the spirit pagers to tell me it's me.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for being here today. The faith in me that.

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Speaker 11: Nobody asked she just gather on this fool pit next

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Speaker 1: I know that I'm.

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Speaker 11: Assigned to klin. So if she doesn't have the words,

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Speaker 11: well I guess I'm gonna go figure out what she

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Speaker 11: has to say. If she doesn't have anything but tears,

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Speaker 11: well I guess I'm supposed to sit here. If she

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Speaker 11: guess she doesn't know how to say, she hasn't eaten

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Speaker 11: to that, well I'm gonna make sure I drop something.

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Speaker 11: I'm just cause she didn't. But in my heart, to

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Speaker 11: honor God, you have to make sure that the people

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Speaker 11: in your life, if you love them like you say

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Speaker 11: you do, be about it.

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Speaker 1: Not in the good seasons, not in the bad seasons,

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Speaker 1: not when it gets.

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Speaker 4: Fine, not when there's a camera overund not gonna will

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Speaker 4: here standing here and there as an opportunity.

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Speaker 11: There would be no need for one another to be

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Speaker 11: in each other's lives if God didn't know we needed

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Speaker 11: each other.

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Speaker 4: Can a person walk with them and be allowed out

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Speaker 4: of them? You're got a friend on that, No, guys,

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Speaker 4: I've enjoyed just listening to you, guys. I thought both

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Speaker 4: of you guys are amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. You guys enjoyed the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laurna Rosa. This is the latest with Laura Rosa.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I tell you, guys,

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Speaker 2: every episode my Lowriders, y'all could be anywhere with anybody

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Speaker 2: having a conversation about this, but y'all choose to be

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Speaker 2: right here with me. I appreciate y'all for that. I

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Speaker 2: will catch you in my next episode.