1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we are 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: rolling through. A Tuesday edition of the program. Talked a 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: lot in the first hour about Joe Biden and the 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: fact that he is now officially the candidate in twenty 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: twenty four, the DNC not allowing any debates to take place. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: How do we think Biden will stack up, What do 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: we think he'll be running on? What lies will he 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: be spreading widely as a part of the normalcy narrative 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: that they will adopt as they prepare to run against 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. But yesterday, as you guys all well know, 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: right as we were coming into the studio, chaos broke 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: out with Tucker Carlson being fired and also, and I 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: say fired because it does seem like that was basically 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: a Fox News decision, and certainly Don Lemon himself announcing that. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: He was fired. 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: So the reaction has poured in on the left. And 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: if you will recall, over the weekend, AOC said that 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: because of the things that Tucker says on the air, 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: he didn't deserve to remain on the air, and so 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: she said that on Sunday, Boom, he gets fired on Monday. 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: Many of you pointed out that coincidence, which I do 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: believe it was a coincidence. I don't think AOC had 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: anything suddenly powerful over Fox to make that end up happening, 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: But didn't stop AOC yesterday from gloating over Tucker Carlson 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: being out at Fox News. And I do think it's 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: important to understand the left wing mindset. They believe. They 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: firmly one hundred billion percent believe in the idea of deplatforming. 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: That is, if you are spreading ideas that they do 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: not like, they want to cancel you. They want to 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: keep you from being able to reach your audience and 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: influence them. This is something Buck and I have to 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: deal with on a regular basis. There are people after 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: us all the time. But listen to this. This is 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: AOC gloating. 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Couldn't have happened to a better guy. 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: What I will say, though, is while I'm very glad 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: that the person that is arguably responsible for driving some 42 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: of the most amounts of death threats and violent threats 43 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: not just to my office but to plenty of people 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: across the country. I also kind of feel like I'm 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: like waiting for the cut scene at the end of 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: a Marvel movie, after all the credits have rolled and 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: then you see like the villains like hand. 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: Re emerge out to grip over like the end of 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: a building or something. But deep platforming works and it 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: is important, and there you go, good things can happen. 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: You, oklay. 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: I think it's important that everyone understands that their their 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: idea is into deep platform the worst defenders. They may 54 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: tell themselves that whatever they think of as worst defenders, 55 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: the idea is to deplatform any opposition whatsoever. And in 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: fact they want to deplatform those who are effective the most, 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 5: not those who transgress the most. So it's anybody who 58 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: is a threat to their power that is the individual, 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 5: that is the show that is at the absolute top 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 5: of the list. And I think it's fascinating to watch 61 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: the Glee from obviously AOC. 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean I put her in the Olberman category. 63 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: If somebody thinks that AOC is not stupid, I think 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: that person is stupid. Same thing I feel about Keith Olberman, 65 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 5: which I have for a long time. But she's very 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 5: powerful because she understands social media, and she has the 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: right packaging for this moment, for the Democrat Party, for 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: the Democrat Left, and they're telling people exactly what the 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: plan is here, which is to shut down anybody who 70 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 5: is effective at giving an opposing point of view. Half 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: the country Clay is not allowed to have media half 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: the country needs to just shut up and have you know, 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 5: Disney make movies about how their kids need to be transgender, 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: and the Democrat Party can just spew whatever nonsense it wants. 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 5: Ignore facts, ignore the Constitution, ignore our history, undermine America. 76 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 5: If you have a problem with that, you don't deserve 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: to be able to say anything. And that's how she 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: really feels. You know, this should be fascinating, right, Okay, 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 5: AOC Tucker Carlson needs to be deplatformed. Who on the 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: right doesn't need to be deplatformed? Ask her that question. 81 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: Someone should push to her, who is Okay, give me 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: a Republican or a conservative or however you want to 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: somebody on the right who has a substantial voice, a 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: substantial influence, who she doesn't think. 85 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: Should be deplatformed. 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: I mean you and I don't sit here saying all 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 5: day long, Oh, everybody on the left who doesn't agree 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 5: with us, you know, they should be fired from their jobs. 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: And that's actually what they believe on the left. They 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 5: think that we should all be fired from our jobs. 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 5: Tucker is just the latest scalp. 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: And that's what's so disappointing to me about this result 93 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: in general. One thing that Trump says that I think 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: is one hundred percent true is the reason why Trump 95 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: is the target he is is because he's in the vanguard. 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: He's in the front. He is a target. They really are. 97 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: Coming for all of us with I would say, functional brains, 98 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: trying to live life in a pro America fashion. And 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: Tucker was the most attacked person in right leaning conservative 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: media by far. Rush Limbaugh has been that for substantial 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: portions of his career in the past. I think that 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: Tucker and we could get into this a little bit 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: from a pure business perspective, is not going to be silenced. 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: But in the short term there is a great deal 105 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: of gloating and they will move on to the next target. 106 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: And this is what I always say about the progressive movement. 107 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Buck and you well know this, but I think your 108 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: point's a good one. First of all, it would be 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: the worst advertising imaginable. Can you imagine if AOC came out, 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: What if out of nowhere she was like, you know, 111 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: I really like Clay and Buck. I think they do 112 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: incredible work. We'd be like, no, like we're done for 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: So if you are in right leading media in any way, 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: and AOC came out and said, hey, I think you 115 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: do really good work, I think this person, she'd probably 116 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: cite somebody at the Lincoln Project, right, which isn't really 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: conservative media anymore. To the extent that she could even 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: name one, I think she probably could name one. But 119 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: if she's like, oh, I think Klay Travis and Buck 120 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Sexon are great. I listen to him every day, we'd 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: be like, oh my goodness, we are in trouble. Also, 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: bigger audience than we anticipated. But I do think their 123 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: goal is to take out everyone. And so when they're 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: talking about deplatforming, make no mistake, this is cancel culture, 125 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: and it is still ascendant and powerful. And I always 126 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 2: think it's important because a lot of people don't understand 127 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: cancel culture. Disagreeing with someone and trying to beat them 128 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: in the marketplace of ideas is not cancel culture. I 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: disagree with your idea, and here's why, is actually the 130 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: fulfillment of the entire marketplace of ideas. I disagree with 131 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: your idea, and you don't deserve to be able to 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: make a living. 133 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Sharing your ideas is cancel culture. 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: And I think what Tucker is going to find buck 135 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: is if he creates his own media company, which I 136 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: think is probably the trajectory that he's going to be on, 137 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: it actually gives you way more freedom. 138 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: And I'll just speak to this. 139 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: When I ran OutKick, I was not at all afraid 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: of saying exactly what I think at OutKick because I 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: knew that I owned my own business and nobody else 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: could fire me. In fact, we used to have a 143 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: running joke where people would demand that OutKick fire Clay 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Travis because they didn't understand that I was not an employee, 145 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: because most people think about life as employees because most 146 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: of us are employee. 147 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 5: You were telling them to call the manager, I said, 148 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: not realizing that you were, in fact the manager. 149 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: I would regularly say, oh man, when Outkicks management finds 150 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: out what Clay Travis said, now there is going to 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: be held. 152 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: And they didn't understand it. 153 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: We would have fun with that on social media, but 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: really the power of controlling your future comes down to 155 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: owning your media freedom, because otherwise there's always someone out 156 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: there who can try to go to a boss and 157 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: get you fired. 158 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: And what do we do? Last night? We had an 159 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: amazing time. 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: By the way, I want to thank our audience ninety 161 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: two five down in Fort Myers and Naples. We had 162 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: hundreds of people who came out last night to see us. 163 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: And at one point, Buck, I asked a question I 164 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: always love to ask of any audience. I speak to, 165 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: how many of you out there in this audience have 166 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: had something that you want to say publicly and you've 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: decided not to post it. Every hand went up in 168 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: the entire crowd, and Buck, I think one reason people 169 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: respond to this show so well, and certainly respond to 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: Tucker in the degree to which they do, is because 171 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: Tucker says what they wish they could say, right and 172 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: I hear all the time. I've never done me. We've 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: talked about this. I've never done a job before where 174 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: people come up to me and say thank you for 175 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: doing it. That's the number one thing that I hear 176 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: when I'm out about people just come up and say, 177 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: like we were eating breakfast this morning. Guy comes up 178 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: and he's just like, hey, thank you guys for doing 179 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: what you do. Do you ever get thanked for having 180 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: a job before. 181 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: No, I mean when I was in the CIA, nobody knew, 182 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: so that's no good point. 183 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 5: Nobody was like thank you for trying to find good 184 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: luck because that would have been bad for bad for 185 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: business for me, for everybody to know. No, it was 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 5: amazing last night seeing all the people come out. And 187 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 5: I also think, you know, when we make a promise 188 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: on air here to any one of our affiliates and 189 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 5: therefore the audience that is the heart and soul of 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 5: that affiliate, that we're going to come out there and 191 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 5: do something, you know, we. 192 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: Do it and we follow through on it. 193 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 5: It's the second time in Fort Myers obviously in what 194 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 5: now eighteen months or so or no, but just about 195 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: a year, right, you were there just about a year ago. 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: And we're going to continue to do this because we 197 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 5: want to see and speak to the people who are 198 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 5: the reason we're able totinue to do this job. And 199 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: I think it's this is a moment of solidarity. I 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: think with Tucker because everybody on the right realizes that 201 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 5: the plan is not to have more reasonable conservative voices. 202 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: The plan is not to have more factual conservative voices. 203 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: AOC and the Pelosi Schumer Biden Democrats want a uniparty, 204 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, a mono party. Really, they want a single 205 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 5: party state, and they want that first and foremost to 206 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 5: be reflected in media and culture, because once you have that, 207 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 5: then everything else actually just falls into place for them. 208 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: So they're trying to find every way possible. I mean, look, 209 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: we've had a few there's some good news here right. 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 5: There are a few beachheads one talk radio thanks to 211 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: audiences like the one that we saw last night, and 212 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 5: all over the country that listens to this show continues 213 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: to be a fortress of sanity. 214 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: Amidst all the craziness, there's Elon. 215 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 5: What Elon has done at Twitter, I'm actually now very bullish. 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 5: I can't actually invest in the stocks as part, but 217 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: I'm very bullish on Twitter. With Elon in charge, I 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 5: think that he took over a complete it. You know, 219 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: if you think about it, like imagine if somebody who 220 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 5: was a brilliant conservative media person took over like the 221 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: Huffington Post just like a left wing trash heap. Think 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 5: about how long it would take. I mean, you've run 223 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 5: businesses right. To turn that around is not going to 224 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 5: be an easy or quick thing. Yeah, Twitter, when you 225 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 5: add the technical issues on top of the political and 226 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 5: managerial issues, I think. But anyway, Elon is doing really 227 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: important stuff. I mean, I don't even it's funny. It's 228 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 5: not the other day. I don't even think about Facebook 229 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 5: and Instagram. Instagram is for like taking a cute photo 230 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 5: of a dog and putting it up now because I can't. 231 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: I know that they're not letting me get any reach. 232 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 5: I know that, and you know a lot of these 233 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: other platforms now conservatives don't even think about. 234 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: But you know, Rumbles thriving and doing well. You saw 235 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: Rumblestock Rumblestock pretty substantially yesterday, you know what. So that's good. 236 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: There's good news in the background of this current media discussion. 237 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 5: It's obviously going to affect twenty twenty four a lot, 238 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 5: how all this comes together. They want to have total 239 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 5: control over the pieces on the chessboard, the clay. That 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: the one, you know, the one that I don't have 241 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 5: an answer for. I don't know is what this really 242 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: means for Fox News. I don't know what this means 243 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 5: for Fox News. I am confident that there will be people, 244 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 5: based on what we've seen so far, who view this 245 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: as a transgression of their loyalty and the brand of 246 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: the network, and they will stop watching. 247 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how many. 248 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: You think it's the toughest to replace in Fox News history. 249 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, here's the thing. 250 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 5: Bill O'Reilly was there for over twenty years, and everyone said, 251 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, Bill Oreley was the king of cable news. 252 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: And you know, but I don't think people blamed Fox 253 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: for Bill O'Reilly being No one was blaming Fox. There 254 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 5: are other situations, other circumstances, I think there. And you know, 255 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 5: Bill has spoken to what happened to him there. And 256 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 5: I'm not casting a versions, passing judgment or I'm just 257 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: saying it wasn't oh my gosh, how could Fox under 258 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: the circumstances? 259 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: That wasn't the outcry from the audience. 260 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: That's all. That's just the obvious reality there. Plus Billett 261 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 5: had twenty years. Yeah, I mean I was watching Bill 262 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: tear apart commis and it was super amusing when I 263 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: was in high school, right right, I mean, you think 264 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: of it so Bill, by the time you know he 265 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 5: finally made he had twenty years there and had a 266 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 5: huge impact on it. 267 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: Tucker was I mean in this role. I know he's 268 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: a five. He had been in his job for a 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: year years. 270 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it feels also the reasoning behind it, which 271 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: we don't even know yet is upsetting to the audience, 272 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 5: and also the sense that he was in act one. 273 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Of a three act play. Here. 274 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. Is we go to break, 275 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: we'll discuss it a bit more when we come back. 276 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: We also have the idiots on the view reacting to Talod. 277 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: We missed them when they were on vacation. You mentioned Elon. 278 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: Is there an Elon play to try to bring Tucker 279 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: exclusively to Twitter? If you're trying to make Twitter the 280 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: one stop shop for everything mentioned? Rumbles stock was up? 281 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: Is there an Elon play? Plus the ladies on the 282 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: view reacting as the imbeciles of course that they are. 283 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: We'll discuss all that more as we continue to roll on. 284 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Claim Buck. I'm going to be. 285 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 5: Getting into it, my friends. A lot going on, you know, 286 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 5: my fellow gun owners out there. I got to ask you, 287 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 5: if you want to just sharpen your skills. 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That's m A n t I s 307 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: X dot com. 308 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 6: Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the Front Lines of 309 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: Truth brought up this possibility just now of something with 310 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 6: Elon and Tucker. 311 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 5: Now, look, if we're gonna just be looking at dream 312 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: team scenarios here with a lot of people who doing 313 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 5: people in. 314 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Doing this on the political side, they're saying, oh, Tucker 315 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: as a VP. 316 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: We talked about it a little bit later. Yea, we 317 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: don't think that's gonna happen. That's very unlikely. But it's 318 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: fun to think about it, and it gets into some 319 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 5: of the dynamics here of I think, what a what 320 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: a popular figure he is on the right, and and 321 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 5: what a what a guy. 322 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: H how capable he would be a at moving the needle. 323 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 5: But if you're talking about the possibility of doing something 324 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: that would really shake up the media marketplace, I mean, look, 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 5: let's understand, you know, even with cable, Fox got this 326 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: beachhead a long time ago in nineteen ninety six when 327 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 5: Fox News started. Yep, nobody else, nobody else has been 328 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 5: able to get full cable coverage for a conservative channel. 329 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: Some of the other channels have gotten up to it. 330 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 5: There's a roughly one hundred million homes. This a little 331 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: bit of a kind of insider cable news talk. There's 332 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: roughly one hundred million homes in the country and at 333 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: different times. I think the Blaze got up to fifteen 334 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 5: or twenty million when I was there, I don't know, 335 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: you know where it stood after that. 336 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: That was years ago. 337 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: Newsmax Clay it's maybe at thirty million homes something like. 338 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: No one's ever gone to one hundred million except Fox, 339 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: and no one's going to get to one hundred million, 340 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: and by the waycept Fox unless someone buys a channel 341 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 5: and flips it. 342 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: But the cable companies make that really hard well, and. 343 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: That business model is starting to collapse too, because they 344 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: got all the way up to one hundred million cable 345 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: and satellite subscribers, we're back down to seventy or seventy 346 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: five for most channels. So this is really interesting to follow. 347 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: And the idea of Evilon coming in and saying, Hey, 348 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to get the biggest voice on the right, 349 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: and let's say he went out and went after one 350 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: of the biggest boy on the left and he said, 351 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: I want to have a true marketplace of ideas hosted 352 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: directly inside of Twitter. It wouldn't cost that much money 353 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: relative to what he's already spent for Twitter to bake 354 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: a big swing like that, And if he also got 355 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: a prominent voice on the left, Heck, what if he 356 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: went and signed Don Lemon. 357 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: What if he signed Don Lemon and he signed. 358 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson and he said, hey, welcome to Twitter, your 359 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: new home for debate. 360 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 5: Whoever has a platform that has critical mass but also 361 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 5: the belief in both the content creators and the audience 362 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 5: that everyone's getting a fair shake. It's never going to 363 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: be perfect. Nothing is perfect but a fair Instagram and 364 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: Facebook or a joke. Okay, TikTok is a joke. YouTube 365 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: is a joke. These places are lib enclaves. So if 366 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: Twitter becomes to one place where you can actually host 367 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 5: a show, put full video up, monetize, could be a 368 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: game changer. Could really matter. I mean, look at what 369 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 5: they did with Twitter when it was evil Twitter. I 370 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: should just wish to start calling it evil Twitter. It's like, 371 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: you know, that was the period and now it's now 372 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: it's elon Twitter. When it was when it was evil Twitter. 373 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 5: They use it to basically row the election to Joe 374 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: Biden by suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story, which a 375 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 5: lot of people based on the polling would have changed 376 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: their minds based on no doubt. 377 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: So, you know, I think that's there, folks. 378 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 5: I think there's a serious possibility here that you may 379 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: see some major shifts in the media marketplace. You know, 380 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: if your cell phone service is with T Mobile, AT 381 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 5: and T or Verizon, you're paying them too much. 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Plus, by the way 394 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 5: that the service that pure Talk has is fantastic, covers 395 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: over ninety nine percent of Americans. I'm a customer, my 396 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 5: calls don't drop five five service is super fast, and 397 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: when I need customer service, they're on it. They're super helpful. 398 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 5: Donald Pound two fifty switch right now to pure talk the. 399 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: Idea, which I think would be very smart of Elon 400 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Musk potentially making a decision to go after Tucker Carlson 401 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: and what that means might mean to the larger media 402 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: environment of Twitter, if he's really trying to make it 403 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: an all platform destination for people on the right and 404 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: the left and even funnier. Not that I think Don 405 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: Lemon is a great representative of the left wing in 406 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: the country, but given the fact that Monday we had 407 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: Boom boom, Tucker Carlson and Don Lemmon out, what if 408 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, who certainly has a love affair with putting 409 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: himself into the central media discussion, what if he said, Hey, 410 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: I'll give each of these guys a platform, no restrictions 411 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: for them to say whatever they want. They'll have it 412 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: out marketplace of ideas. You like Tucker, you and listen 413 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: to him here, you know, like Don Lemon, you can 414 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: listen to him here. Not unlike by the way, the 415 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: work that our boss Julie Talbot has done at iHeart 416 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: where you of us because you have great taste and 417 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 2: we're fabulous people. 418 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: But also there's left wing programming that you can find 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: on iHeart as well. Believe it or that. 420 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 5: I say, a lot of people saw us in person 421 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: last night and said that are looking that I thought, actually, 422 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: I said, hey, we'll take it. 423 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of people also, I thought. 424 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: They kept coming to me. I got this two people. 425 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I thought you would be really short. I'm like, why 426 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: do you think I'm six feet tall? 427 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: I will say thanks to Buck's wife Carrie, who by 428 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: the way, was much better received as good looking than 429 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: either of us, which is accurate. But the U but 430 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: the landscape basically is why would you not try and 431 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: satisfy everyone and give everyone what they want and let 432 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: people have freedom to say what they truly believe. That's 433 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: what I would say Elon is trying to do at Twitter, 434 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: and certainly that's what I believe Tucker did for the 435 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: past six years on Fox News. 436 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: Now the place that I like to think. 437 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: Again, humbly, I said this last night at our big 438 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: event that we did in Fort Myers with our Naples 439 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: audience appreciated everybody coming to hang out. I said that 440 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: I was confident we have the smartest show in media 441 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: on a daily basis, and. 442 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what the second smartest show would be. 443 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: If you were trying to put his head to head 444 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 2: and they said, okay, let's take the smartest left wing 445 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: show and we'll have a debate Clay and Buck on 446 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: one side. We'll take a left wing I'm not even 447 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm not even sure. Rachel Maddow used to be pretty smart, 448 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: whether you like or not. She's wrong on everything, but 449 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 2: she's only on one day a week now. I'm not 450 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: even sure who the representative of the left wing smartist 451 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 2: left wing day? 452 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 5: This is interesting show, this is you know, choose the 453 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: form of your Destructor and Ghostbusters smartest left wing to 454 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 5: marshmellow Man Daily Show. 455 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 7: Hmm. 456 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 5: Maybe Laurence O'Donnell over at MSNBC. Wasn't he involved in 457 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 5: writing the West Wing. He's a pretty he's a smart guy. Okay, 458 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 5: you know he's like, you know, high wattage. We're not 459 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: a friendly fellow. 460 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: Stop the hammer. You remember that. That was fun. But 461 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: I think I think maybe I don't know. I'd actually 462 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Matt I would be the choice over at MS. Chris Hayes, 463 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes. But she's only some high watch, high wattage guy. 464 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: So that would I mean, I would be happy to 465 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: go toe to toe with those guys. Unlikely to happen. 466 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: We're talking about the high end intellectual capability, low end 467 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: intellectual capability, by the way. 468 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: The smartest, the smartest people on the left, Uh, you 469 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: know people, some of them I've worked with, Crystal Ball, 470 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 5: Mark Lamont Hill. They're not at actually the big cable companies, 471 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: which is interesting. They've actually gone off. So even on 472 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 5: the if you look Glenn Greenwald, a man of the left. 473 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 5: By the way, even if you're on the left, if 474 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: you're not sort of in that talking points pablum lowest 475 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 5: common denominator side of things, they. 476 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Don't really want you at. 477 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: You're not willing to say, oh, the Hunter Biden laptop 478 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: is Russian disinformation and nobody in audience deserves to have 479 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: any discussion about it. All right, So dumbest, dumbest Daily 480 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: show right or left? 481 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: The View. 482 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: The View is filled with dumb people saying dumb things 483 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: to dumb people in the audience. Remember Buck, they didn't 484 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: even stop their mask requirement in the View until last month. 485 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: I mean, if you wanted to crystallize with one choice. 486 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: How dumb the show and its audience is. They were 487 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: all still trapesing into that studio wearing masks until basically 488 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: last month. So it's not a surprise that when the 489 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson news broke yesterday, the ladies on the View 490 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: brought it out, they discussed it with their audience, and 491 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: everybody immediately threw a stupid people party. 492 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: Here's what it sounded like. 493 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 7: Word has just come down that Fox News Media and 494 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 7: Tucker Calson have agreed to part ways. 495 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: The service to Let and Hustle contributing. 496 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: You know, we'll talk more about it tomorrow because but 497 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 5: we wanted to make sure that we let you know 498 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: what was going on. 499 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, can I ask the audist if they'll help me 500 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: do something? 501 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 7: Come on, folks, Nana na, No, all right, the dumbest 502 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 7: show buck. 503 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: Do you think any of those people have ever watched 504 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: a single episode of Tucker Carlson in their life. 505 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 5: They've only seen cuts that Media Matters has taken, put 506 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 5: an untrue headline on and taken them out of context. 507 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: They've never actually watched Tucker's show. They don't know the 508 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: kind I mean they don't know the kinds of thought 509 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: an analysis that goes into those monologues that he would do. 510 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 5: But I also just remind everybody, because this is a 511 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 5: challenge that we have on the right. I generally, I mean, 512 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 5: I truly believe that people on the right, there's always exceptions. 513 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: They're individuals, know different cases, of course, tend to be 514 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: happy or a nicer. 515 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's my honest and true belief. 516 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 5: People can argue with that, but I really believe it 517 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 5: to be true, and so we for example, courtesy is 518 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: a weapon that's used against us. The courtzy thing, even 519 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 5: as we've talked about with the pronouns, just be nice, 520 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 5: just use their pronoun just use their pronoun. Turns into 521 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: that's actually not a guy, that's a woman swimming against 522 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: the woman in the NCAA championship. You know, forget about 523 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: the male genitalia. Don't be a bigots. That's the way 524 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: they do things. 525 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 6: Okay. 526 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 5: They ask for a little bit of politeness, and then 527 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: they use the politeness as a weapon against you. Whenever 528 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: there's you know, when BuzzFeed News just announced it's lao. 529 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: You always see this. 530 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't like to celebrate only people on the right, ever, 531 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 5: say I don't like to celebrate the professional demise in 532 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 5: the media of our opponents. 533 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: The left. 534 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: They celebrate this openly. They're throwing parties all over the place. 535 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 5: They're busting out the champagne at CNN. So I just 536 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 5: remind everybody, you know, you're dealing with comedies, you're dealing 537 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: with totalitarians. People who don't think about this as there's 538 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: a human cost, Like they never stop to think, oh, well, 539 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: what about the people who work on that show? Are 540 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 5: they going to have jobs or whatever? Because they think, 541 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 5: by the way, they're all part of the problem. That's 542 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 5: the way they really think anybody at Fox News should 543 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: be Even if you're a liberal at Fox News and 544 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: there are liberals at Fox News, you should be fired 545 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 5: because you're part of the problem. 546 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: That is the attitude of the left. 547 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 5: So just remember that the next time someone goes, oh, 548 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: why are you excited that BuzzFeed? BuzzFeed is horrible, it's 549 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 5: propaganda and it's making the country a worse place. How 550 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 5: about that, because that's how they feel about everybody on 551 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: the right. 552 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: You know, it is interesting how aggressive people have opinions 553 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: because I don't think I mean this Honestly, if you 554 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: read a discussion with me, some of you may have 555 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: seen the Stephen A. Smith conversation that I had last week, 556 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: that it was very positive for the people who actually went. 557 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: And watched it. 558 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: The amount of strong opinions that people on the left 559 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: have about Tucker Carlson never having actually watched his show, 560 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: or for that matter, the amount of strong opinions that 561 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: people have for either you or myself never having listened 562 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: to one of our shows before, is to me emblematic. 563 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: I believe of what the left has done in terms 564 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: of being able to define its opponents as pure evil. 565 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: There isn't really a to your point, I mean the 566 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: niceness associated with it. Like you just heard me introduce 567 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: The View, I think the ladies on the View are 568 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: very dumb, and I think their audience is very dumb. 569 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 2: But I've actually watched segments of The View before now 570 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: a lot of times it airs similar time to us. 571 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: But it's just not a smart show. 572 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't believe that that show should be canceled because 573 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: it's lack of intelligence. If the audience isn't there, that's fine, 574 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: that's how the marketplace works. But it is a very 575 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 2: different way of looking at the world where they want 576 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: people who have opinions different than them to be gone. 577 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: I actually lamented Buck when the View was on vacation. 578 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: We did it because we didn't have stupid clips from 579 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: their show to play and be entertained. 580 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: But I still miss Brian Stelter show. Everybody. I have 581 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: the coventary of the coventary. 582 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: The media is the media all star Brian Stelter, who's 583 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: now by the way at Harvard. I mean, come on, 584 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: of all the places that could be employing an imbecile. 585 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: I mean, he's definitely he always looks like he's a 586 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 5: guy who should have had a tweet blazer with elbow touches. 587 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: Anyway, So your. 588 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 2: Point that he basically was a doppelganger for Jeff Zucker, 589 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: it explains his entire career. 590 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 5: Thank you for giving me credit for that, because that 591 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: is one hundred percent of what happens. Nobody else was like, 592 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 5: this guy's a TV talent, except Zucker was. 593 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know that soft chin, that bald pate. 594 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: I think we got something here. I've never seen a 595 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: sexier man. Jeff Zucker just just looking. 596 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 5: Around, Like if you look at him and photo side 597 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 5: by side, Zucker and and Stealter. 598 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: He is it's mini me. I mean, he looks just 599 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: like him. It is wild what they were able to do. 600 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: As you, as you kind of broke down and continued 601 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: that he was considered to be a voice of moral 602 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: authority associated with analyzing the media, and this was a 603 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 2: guy who got more wrong and was basically not very smart. Right, 604 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: But we never said, hey, he shouldn't have a show. 605 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: And when Don Lemon got fired, it was kind of 606 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: entertaining yesterday we could talk about it. 607 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Certainly it snowed under a bit compared to what was 608 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: going on with Tucker. 609 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: But Don lemonill bounce back. He'll be somewhere else asking 610 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: whether airplanes could have been swallowed by black holes, which 611 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: is one of the alts, maybe the greatest clip in 612 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: Don Lemon's career. 613 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: We come back and close out second hour the program. 614 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us, continuing to 615 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: try to contextualize all of the crazy every single day. 616 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: We'll have to get back to in the third hour. 617 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: Joe Biden announcing his official run for re election in 618 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. 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Don't miss 642 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a day of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 643 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. 644 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: A lot of change in the media environment, and we're 645 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 5: making sense of all here on Clay and Buck eight 646 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 5: hundred and two A two two eight a two on 647 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: those phone lines. Look, we've been talking mostly about Tucker 648 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 5: because that's a huge change on the conservative media chess board. 649 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: That's for sure. We all know what. Everybody knows it. 650 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 5: I don't think anyone, no matter what they think of 651 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 5: Tucker work conservative media disagrees that this is a major 652 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: change in that media landscape. A lesser change in the landscape, 653 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: but still interesting to us is the departure from CNN 654 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 5: of Don Lemon CNN This Morning, which is so that's 655 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 5: now it's Poppy Harlow and Caitlyn Collins, right, that's unless 656 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: they've added. 657 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: A new person. Yeah, they were a trio, now they're 658 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: a duo. 659 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 5: So, after Don's tremendous promotion to the Morning show from 660 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 5: a primetime show at CNN. It was tremendous promotion, by 661 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: the way, probably the biggest promotion. And here we are 662 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 5: with the Morning Show and now I will I'm just 663 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: gonna say this. I mean, they announced this. You know, 664 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 5: they also announced Don Talker show last night. You know, 665 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 5: Brian Kilmead said, Tucker's a great friend and he's not 666 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: with us anymore, and they just moved right on from it. 667 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure this is a management decision, but it was 668 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: very much noticed that there was no goodbye given or offered, 669 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: and that was that. So people are pointing that one out. 670 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: Don Lemon also, he had a different circumstance, didn't even 671 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: want to talk to management, went right to Twitter, and 672 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: so CNN this Morning announced his departure. 673 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: This way play eighteen. 674 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 8: We do begin, though, with news about this show. As 675 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 8: you may have heard, yesterday, CNN parted ways with anchor 676 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 8: Don Lemon. In a statement, CNN CEO Chris lickt thank 677 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 8: Don for his contributions over the past seventeen years, writing 678 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 8: in part, Don will forever be a part of the 679 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 8: CNN family. We wish him well and we'll be cheering 680 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: him on in his future endeavors. 681 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely of course, Don was a big part of this 682 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: show over the last six months. He was one of 683 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: the first anchors on CNN to have me on his show. 684 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: That's something I'll obviously never forget. 685 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: I agree with Chris, We wish him the best. 686 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, more airtime, more airtime for Don Lemon on the 687 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: CNN Show than for Tucker last night. 688 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Now, Tlly Fair people, Clay people noticed. Yeah, I get that. 689 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: But they also had two co hosts still on the show. Yep, right, 690 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: So I think that changes the dynamic a little bit. 691 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: If Tucker had been on with a couple of other people, 692 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: I think they would have wanted to express, you know, 693 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: their thoughts on Tucker being gone a little bit as well. 694 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: But look, I mean we talked about this. You like 695 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: to think because of the job you do, that we're 696 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: all so important in media. Everybody has egos and media 697 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: and everything else. The reality is every single person who 698 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: talks into a television camera or into a microphone will 699 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: be replaced at some. 700 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: Point, is replaceable and shall be replaced at any point point. 701 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 2: Some of us Rush had a thirty some odd year career. 702 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: You would like to think that you could have a 703 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: thirty forty to fifty year career. Sean Hannity's been doing 704 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: it forever, and there are a lot of people with 705 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: a great deal of talent, but no matter how good 706 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: you are, there, the show must go on, right the show. 707 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: And so for Tucker, I mean six years of truly 708 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: domin it Fox News programming, and he got ten seconds 709 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: basically at the start, and then Brian kill mead rolled 710 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: right on. 711 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it back in the day. 712 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 5: I still think back fondly to the early days of 713 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: me watching Hennity and Combs, yea and Combs. 714 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Where is goals grew by the way, Oh no he 715 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: passed away? Oh well sorry, rest in peace. Yeah no, 716 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: he was great, But that was that was. 717 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: A really It's always unfortunate when you ask where somebody 718 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: is and it turns out they're dead. 719 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: But you know, he he I will tell you he uh. 720 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: And not not just because he passed away. 721 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 5: The story on Alan Combs from everybody I know who 722 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 5: worked with him was that he was actually a really 723 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 5: nice guy, honestly, so like a good guy. 724 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: People who worked on that show said he was a 725 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: good guy. So anyway, I'm just saying that I remember 726 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: watching this and I was like This is awesome. I 727 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: love this show. Of what you said. 728 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: The shows used to be in the news networks, you 729 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: would actually fight out ideas. Oh yeah, that was what 730 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: Tucker did at Crossfire back in the day. The concept 731 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: was you have one on the right, one on the left, 732 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: and you debate ideas. Now that basically everybody's got their 733 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 2: own and silo and echo change the whole. 734 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 5: There's this website media I that a lot of you 735 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 5: probably have never never go to. Maybe you'll see occasual 736 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: story from it. But if you work in the media, 737 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 5: a lot of people pay much more attention to. It's 738 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 5: almost like a trade trade publication for us, right, But 739 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 5: it used to be great because. 740 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: It was all fights. Yeah, it's like the roads the throwdowns. 741 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 5: Online where they're like, excuse me, sir, are you questioning 742 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: my integrity? You know, it's like with a with all 743 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 5: whever you say that by the way, disrespect is coming. Yeah, 744 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: you know, yes, and and so you know that that 745 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 5: used to be that whole, that this whole medium has 746 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 5: changed and it has died out. But uh, anyways, they 747 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: they said, uh, they said that Don Leman is out 748 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 5: over at to and he'll he'll I wonder where he 749 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 5: will surface again, but he'll get another job somewhere else, 750 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 5: and if anything, it might actually be good for him 751 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 5: to have the corrective of knowing that there are some 752 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: there are consequences that some of apparently the Vivek. 753 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: Interview, which will play some people who play some of that. 754 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: The Vivek interview was not helpful for him because they 755 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 5: really want to reposition that network as this neutral, which 756 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 5: it isn't, but they're trying to and he was not 757 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 5: part of that. 758 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: We played that audio, we'll play for you maybe in 759 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: the third hour. 760 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: But what do you think about my idea of what 761 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: would the reaction be if Elon pulled off Tucker and 762 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 2: Don Lemon. 763 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Positive put them onto My idea is. 764 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: And I'm speaking as if I were Elon, I want 765 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: Twitter to be a platform where everybody can embrace the 766 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: full fruition of whatever they believe. Now. I think that 767 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: would be incredible for Tucker, because Tucker's very smart and 768 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: has interesting ideas. Could expose Don Lemon a little bit 769 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 2: because he's been sort of a float whichever direction the 770 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: currents of CNN Cary. 771 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: I call it like I see it. 772 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 5: Don Lemon had a few moments at CNN back in 773 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 5: the day, where he actually said some pretty interesting stuff. 774 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: Correct that the Democrats. What does he actually believe? 775 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: I guess is the essence of that question, because if 776 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 2: he had true freedom, how would that all shake out? 777 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 2: Discuss that and more as we roll into the third 778 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: hour of the program. Thanks for hanging with us.