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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you what.

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Speaker 1: A few years ago, I ran into one of the

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Speaker 1: funniest cartoon strips and videos that's out there by far,

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Speaker 1: Freedom Tunes. And so when I'm on X the other

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Speaker 1: Seamus on, and I'll tell you what. The man who

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Speaker 2: Shamus, thank you, brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely honored to be here. Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for the invite and for all of your kind words.

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Speaker 3: You know, I love doing timcast. I love doing all

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Speaker 3: really interesting and really cool, and then you became a

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Speaker 1: Well, when when your dad's and when your dad's an

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Speaker 3: And firstly, before I even dive into that, I just

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Speaker 3: acknowledge that movie draws you in.

438
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Speaker 2: The special effects are phenomenal.

439
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: The mood the music is like gut wrenching and heart wrenching.

440
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: The cinematography is executed brilliantly. They're able to hypnotize you

441
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: into celebrating like the horrible actions of this woman, who

442
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: by the end of the film, by the way, when

443
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: she's in her like nineties, is still a really selfish person.

444
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: Because what does she do. She like drops the diamond

445
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: off the side of the boat. Instead of giving it

446
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: to the people who were searching for it, or her

447
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,239
Speaker 3: granddaughter or like giving it to or whatever, she just

448
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 3: throws all this wealth away. So the reason I like

449
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: bringing that up as an example is because it's like

450
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: a perfect case study, because you don't know, no one

451
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: thinks like Titanic that's leftist propaganda, But that film is

452
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 3: pro adulterry. That film is pro fornication. That film is

453
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: pro licentiousness. That is how Hollywood has done this for

454
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 3: years by having a person who does really really bad

455
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: things either not pay a consequence for it, or for

456
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Speaker 3: you to actually appreciate and celebrate the bad things that

457
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Speaker 3: they're doing. So what we and this is a big

458
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: part of what we're doing with our show, is we're

459
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: just telling really good, really fun, really interesting stories where

460
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Speaker 3: we don't celebrate people who are doing bad things, like

461
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: we don't like, yes, there are some jokes there, there

462
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: are people who do bad things, like we don't celebrate it,

463
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 3: and we make it clear that like that's not the

464
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: winning strategy. By the end of the story, you know

465
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 3: what we're trying to say, but again without it being

466
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Speaker 3: heavy handed. Just because you saw what happened to the characters,

467
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Speaker 3: you saw where the story went.

468
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Speaker 1: I love that And so that's why I mean for me,

469
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Speaker 1: developing storylines is the funnest aspect of what you're doing, right,

470
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: Like you start with an intention and then you all

471
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Speaker 1: you build this this whole thing around and I'm there

472
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: was a few years ago I got a film crew

473
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Speaker 1: together and I was trying to put together real to

474
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: try and sell about the Second Amendment, and it was

475
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 1: really all right, like what's the storyline going to be?

476
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: And you know, and that was the fun part, right

477
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the end result in the

478
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: individual's mind's going to be. Can you kind of talk

479
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: to us about your process of picking a topic breaking

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 1: it out? And you know, there's this really great video

481
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: that always kind of recirculates on the interwebs there and

482
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: it's with Trey Stone and Matt Parker talking about the

483
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Speaker 1: development of plot lines like this needs to go this,

484
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: this needs to go here, then something needs to happen

485
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Speaker 1: to rebuild it here.

486
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Speaker 2: Can you just walk through how you guys do it?

487
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Speaker 2: One million percent?

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just want to mention about the Second

489
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Speaker 3: Amendment first, because I think this is a really strong

490
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Speaker 3: point and it relates to something you and I were

491
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Speaker 3: talking about before the show. One of the most pro

492
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Speaker 3: Second Amendment films ever made, one of the films that

493
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Speaker 3: inspired a Mary Cans to say, we need to hold

494
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 3: onto our firearms. Silly as this might sound, but I

495
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: am being serious. It was not some pro Second Amendent documentary.

496
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: It was Red Dawn. Like I am, I am so

497
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: serious about this, By the way, I really mean this.

498
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: I know I love listen. I know I've seen the

499
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: eighties version. It is silly, it is cheesy, it is ridiculous,

500
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: and I don't think it was it was trying to

501
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: be a pro to a movie or anything like that.

502
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: But what you got to remember is, like, in the

503
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Speaker 3: same way that Titanic promotes fornication, or like you know,

504
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 3: a film like Philadelphia promotes homosexuality, Red Dawn was promoting

505
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: gun ownership, whether it realized it or not, because the

506
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: story puts in your mind, oh like, actually the purpose

507
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: of the second ammenent is to fight a trannical government

508
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: or afford invasion or something along those lines. So as

509
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 3: and that's remember trying to oh yeah, go ahead. I

510
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: just got to tell you.

511
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Speaker 1: I love your brain, you your ability to see those

512
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Speaker 1: things and those narratives, you know, and I and I

513
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: just one quick note before you get into the details

514
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: of this. I think everybody who is waking up to

515
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: this stuff, right, they're see it now, like it's not

516
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 1: camouflaged anymore. They know that we've you know what, you know,

517
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: you've been propagandized.

518
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 2: You know, you've been.

519
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: Led down this very long, very arduous path of what

520
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: you're consuming for inspiration, right, and that's that's why you

521
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: that's why you consume uh uh media in the first place,

522
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: is for this, this, this, this, it makes you feel something, right,

523
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: Like everybody remembers, you know, their first major breakup in

524
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: what song you listen to on repeat? Right, everybody remembers

525
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: you know that movie that like, Yeah, for me, I

526
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: was in college, I watched JFK. I was like, holy shit,

527
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: the government's bad, you know what I mean. And it's

528
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: like and it's like, you know, and and that's the

529
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Speaker 1: thing about this, that's the power of what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you.

531
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Speaker 3: And this is the thing because I know that there

532
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: are some people on occasion we'll scoff at this. Well,

533
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: the documentary is much more important. Listen, there are great documentaries.

534
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: But let's face it, you for is brilliant as you

535
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: think you are. You know, mister smarty pants, who only

536
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: watches documentary. This is me talking to the hypothetical opponent

537
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: I have in my head. You are more influenced by

538
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: a narrative film than you are by documentary, whether you

539
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: realize it or not. And the documentary is still important.

540
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm not dismissing it. I'm not dismissing it,

541
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: but I'm saying conservatives have done a lot of that.

542
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: We need to make narrative stories.

543
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: And so you were asking about the process we have here,

544
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 3: and you mentioned Trey Parker and Matt Stone discussing story

545
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: and I know what you're referring to. They were saying,

546
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 3: when you make a story, you need to ensure that

547
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 3: your plot is so then and not and then. In

548
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: other words, this happens, so, then this happens, So the

549
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: character does this, so then that happens, This happens, and

550
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: then this happens, and then this happens, and then this happened.

551
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: Because then it becomes disjointed and you don't really care

552
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: about what's happening. A bunch of things are just being

553
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: thrown at you. And when we were working on the

554
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: pilot for this, actually we have the stript written and

555
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: we were working on it, and a couple months ago,

556
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: as I was watching a draft of it, I went, all, right,

557
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of this that's really strong.

558
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: I think the ending is.

559
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 3: Strong here, but the beginning of it felt very and

560
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 3: then it didn't have the right so then build that

561
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: I felt it needed to, so I added new scenes.

562
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: We readed some of the animation.

563
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: We modified some things because it's very important for the

564
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 3: audience to be able to follow a thread through the

565
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: episode and feel like they've been told the cohesive narrative

566
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: instead of just seeing a bunch of different things happen

567
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 3: on screen. And that's one mistake that a lot of

568
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: big action films will make, is they'll they'll throw a

569
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: lot at you. It's very important to just remember that

570
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: thread because at the heart of it all, you are

571
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: telling a story. And when you do tell a story,

572
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: there's a reason. There's a reason, Like when a little

573
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: kid tells a story, it's very funny, but it part

574
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: of why it's funny because their method doesn't work because

575
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: that's what little kids and then this, and then this happened,

576
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: and then this happened, and then this happened. But to

577
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: tell a story that's really going to captivate a wild

578
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: wide audience, it has to be like this happens, so

579
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: this happens, so this happens, so this happens, so this happens.

580
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: It's a very clear line connecting everything. And then if

581
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, if you're a really creative director, and this

582
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: is something Christopher Nolan has done a good amount is

583
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: like you have that line, but then you kind of

584
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: break up the ordering in which you tell it, or

585
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: like Pulp Fiction famously did that.

586
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: But remember Memento Member Memento.

587
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Yes, the great film, but that film, and that's a

588
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: very clever film and the way it breaks it up

589
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: and shakes the order, but it's still just a very straight,

590
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: clear narrative.

591
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: It's not a bunch of stuff happening.

592
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's really really important for your story

593
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: to have a cohesive narrative where the character's choices affect

594
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: the world around them. And for the first episode, as

595
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: we were writing it, I was so glad that we

596
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: were able to nail that and make that work because

597
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: it's an episode about a lot of things happen.

598
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Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it.

599
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil it, but it's an episode

600
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: about a character reacting to a lot of things happening

601
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: broadly in society.

602
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Let's say it touches I'll put it this way.

603
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: It touches on like the question of ets an extra

604
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: trustrial life.

605
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: You guys are gonna love it. I actually think you

606
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: guys are gonna love it. But it's.

607
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 3: Part of that is like, Okay. The sow then is like,

608
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: what how does he deal with this? How does his

609
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: perspective change what is happening in the world around him

610
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: as opposed to like, aliens do this, aliens do that.

611
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: This happens, that happens, that happens.

612
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: It's great.

613
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: And so there were a couple moments where I was

614
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: watching it in the production process where I was like,

615
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: I think we need a scene where we see our

616
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: protagonists doing something here.

617
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: I feel like we need an extra moment.

618
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: There to really sell that this is still like a

619
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: story about this guy and what he's going through. And

620
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: we were able to get it to a place where

621
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: it just balances and you get a good feeling for

622
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: the story thread with all of this awesome crazy stuff

623
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: still happen.

624
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: I love it.

625
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: I love it like I got this great advice from

626
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: a writing class I took in college.

627
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: And you know this. It was this old guy too.

628
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: He'd been teaching at Penn State for like fifty years,

629
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: but he was brilliant, been published, and he would say,

630
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: because I would write these fantastical scenes and all this stuff,

631
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: and he'd say, hey, never forget that your reader wants

632
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: to feel what your main character is feeling yeah, And

633
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: that was huge for me to realize that. And so

634
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've worked on my first fiction book over

635
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: the last year, getting ready to release that coming up.

636
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: But it was like, all right, it's about the evolution

637
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: of this individual, right, and that's what you what I

638
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: think grounds you in that that development of the narrative.

639
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: If you can always put yourself back in their shoes,

640
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: that's where the magic happens.

641
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: And you know, there's there's two kinds of story structures

642
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: in that sense that are really popular. Firstly, in the

643
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: most common one is a character changing throughout the story.

644
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: So he starts one way and by the end of

645
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: the film he's a different way.

646
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: A Christmas Carol's a great example of this.

647
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: There's other kinds of stories, and these are less common,

648
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: but they're probably more.

649
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: Difficult to pull it off. But if you pull it off,

650
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: it goes really well.

651
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: And those are stories where the character stays the same

652
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: but the world changes around is they're able to change

653
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: the world. So I think a good example of that

654
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: might be Forrest Gump or Shawshank Redemption. It's not to

655
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Speaker 3: say Andy your Forest don't have any character growth, but

656
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: they clearly shape the world around them in these really

657
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: incredible ways, whereas again and other stories, that's not how

658
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: it goes. But you need some kind of narrative arc

659
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: in that way. And this is funny, This is just

660
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: occurring to me now. Actually, our protagonist in our pilot

661
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: episode is a veteran, and part of the subtext I like, again,

662
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil too much of it. I

663
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Speaker 3: don't want to spoil too much of the story, but like,

664
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Speaker 3: part of the subtext of that first episode is.

665
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Speaker 2: Again, this is subtext.

666
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Speaker 3: It's not like a big theme that we but part

667
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: of it is, you know, we sent these people to

668
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Speaker 3: fight in these wars and make these sacrifices, and then

669
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Speaker 3: they come back home and all of our media is

670
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: totally nihilistic and telling them that nothing matters. So not

671
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: only did you send people to be involved with something

672
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: that was absolutely horrible and difficult to cope with, but

673
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: then you took away the number one coping strategy from

674
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Speaker 3: our culture, which is to believe that things do matter,

675
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: that there is a right and wrong, and like even

676
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 3: if the particular war, for example, wasn't a war we

677
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: should have been fighting, that doesn't mean that there wasn't

678
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: some real good moral reason for your own development. Maybe

679
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: it brought you closer to Christ, maybe it helped you

680
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: experience something, learn something was part of your mission, right,

681
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: But we as a society have just stolen that from people.

682
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Speaker 3: And that's the theme of the entire show. The theme

683
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Speaker 3: of my entire show, of the entire anthology series that

684
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Speaker 3: we're making is life matters. That's the that is the

685
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: theme is like, life matters, and morality is real, and

686
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: you matter and your actions have consequences because you're important,

687
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Speaker 3: because you actually matter.

688
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Speaker 1: Dude, I'm like, I'm I'm chopping at the bit for

689
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: this now. It's crazy. I just I you. You have

690
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: logged in the time, right, and that's and that's what

691
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: so many people don't get, right, Like, you don't just

692
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: wake up and you're able to generate a framework of understanding, narratives, plotlines.

693
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: Character development just doesn't happen overnight. It takes you know, countless,

694
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: countless countless hours, you know, writing something that sucks, scrapping it,

695
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: starting and over writing something that scraps, drawing something that scraps,

696
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: starting over, refining, tweaking, refine. Yes, and you have done

697
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Speaker 1: that over the last you know, twenty years of your

698
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: life since that first strip? You ever did you know

699
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: one of the things that I always find interesting, you know,

700
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: because you're so intimately connect to that it's personal to you.

701
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Right what what the audience member fields is personal to you?

702
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: How does it work now for you? Because now you're going,

703
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: you're you're scaling, You're going to the next level where

704
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: you're you're moving into that uh, you know, Lucas level

705
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: where you're you're gonna be in charge of the whole production.

706
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: You're you have to take a step back.

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: You have to give ownership to people who are doing,

708
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: you know, different aspects of sound or or artwork or

709
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: background work or whatever it is right in the production dynamics.

710
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Speaker 2: Is that hard for you?

711
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Speaker 1: Because I hear you talk man Seamus, and I'm like, man,

712
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: that motherfucker believes what he's.

713
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Speaker 2: Doing, and like that gets me all fired out. Like

714
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: there's nothing that gets me more fired up.

715
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Speaker 1: And I don't care if you're passionate about something that

716
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't believe in. As long as you believe it

717
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: and you're passionate, you're willing to speak about it intelligently, right,

718
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I'll like, all right, let's hear it, But man, it's

719
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: in you, is it? It's hard for you now as

720
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: you're scaling to kind of get above it a little

721
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: bit and be the you know, you're raising the funds,

722
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: you're the face, you're the director, you're the main executive producer,

723
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: you're hiring staff. Is that becoming? You know, you're doing

724
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: thousand interviews. You're like, tell me what that's like in

725
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: this transition for you.

726
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: I actually appreciate that question because it's something people probably

727
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: don't consider or think about, because, as I mentioned, your

728
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: average person doesn't really know how much goes into animation

729
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: and how large of a team you usually need in

730
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: order to make it. So what happens is the visionary

731
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Speaker 3: behind the project or the person who initially created it

732
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Speaker 3: usually does end up having to step back and take

733
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Speaker 3: on a larger team in order to scale it. And

734
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Speaker 3: that has been a slow, purgative process. It's painful to

735
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: a degree, but it's also great to a degree because

736
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Speaker 3: you're able to step out and expand and focus on

737
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 3: other things, and you're able to get people on your

738
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: team who are great and I have the best team

739
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Speaker 3: in the world, by the way.

740
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Speaker 2: That's also why I'm really confident about this show.

741
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: I've the best team, and you have people who are

742
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: really talented and really good, and where the humility comes

743
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: in and where the pain and the process comes in

744
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: is going that's different than I would do it, and

745
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: it's actually better. I have a rule, and I've had

746
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: a rule for a long time that like, I don't

747
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: hire someone unless they're better than me.

748
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Speaker 2: It's something.

749
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Speaker 3: Man because and everyone on my team has like something

750
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: they're able to pull off that I'm not as good at.

751
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: And because of that, the quality of the videos has

752
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: improved immensely over the years, and we were still able

753
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: to keep it in a consistent style where you look

754
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 3: at that and go, that's Freedom Tunes. If you look

755
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: at our videos from ten years ago, you'll still be

756
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: able to tell that it's Freedom Tunes, that this is

757
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: work that I'm behind.

758
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: But the stuff we're doing now looks a lot better.

759
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: It looks a lot better, and the show we're making

760
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: looks even better than the videos that we're doing now.

761
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: And so it is a slow process and it's taken away,

762
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 3: but I've got enough experience now with it that you

763
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Speaker 3: know I'm still gonna be I'm still gonna be very

764
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: much in the production. But my role is going to be,

765
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 3: you know, yes, animating some shots here and there, but

766
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Speaker 3: a lot of it.

767
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 2: Is going to be going.

768
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Speaker 3: You know what, if you really want the comedic timing

769
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: to land for this scene, you have to cut like

770
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: four frames out of this and you got to squash

771
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: this a little more, stretch this a little more. There's

772
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: things like that that you start to have to do

773
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: as a director. Here's the right music that we need,

774
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: Here's how we want to cut this sequence so that

775
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Speaker 3: like the audience feels it in their chest when they

776
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Speaker 3: see the.

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Speaker 2: Video aligned with the music.

778
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Speaker 3: And so my role is more or less transitioned into that,

779
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: and it's been a slow transition over the years. But

780
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: that's also part of why I feel confident that we're

781
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: gonna be able to pull this off, because I have had

782
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: experience delegating and stepping back and managing the team. I've

783
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: got a really good friend, actually my best friend. He

784
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's a former military guy.

785
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: And one thing he used to tell the guys who

786
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: he was in charge of, which I absolutely love and

787
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: I quote all the time, is he said, you will

788
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: never rise to the occasion, you will always default to

789
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: your level of training. I love that so much and

790
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: it's been a model to live by, and that's why

791
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: I was like, I feel we've gotten to the point

792
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: where our default level is to really quickly and competently

793
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 3: churn these videos out, so I know that we're capable

794
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: of taking a project like this on. Like, I would

795
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: not be attempting something like this if I didn't believe

796
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Speaker 3: that we were in a place where we were consistently

797
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: rising to the occasion to deliver content. And it's been

798
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: eleven years now since we've been uploading this stuff consistently,

799
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Speaker 3: so I really believe this is the time for us

800
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Speaker 3: to expand.

801
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Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm so far up, dude. And your buddy, Man,

802
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: he's genius. That he is a great I love him, Dude,

803
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: the greatest lesson you can ever learn. Like, it's about

804
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: your preparation, it's about your training, it's about your team,

805
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: it's about your unity, about your motivation, about your mission focus. Man,

806
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: that is genius and I love that more than anything.

807
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Speaker 1: All Right, here, what I want to do now, Seamus,

808
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: is I want to talk about how we going to

809
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: get people to open up their wallets, get out their

810
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: credit cards, and why should people come in and then

811
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: give us like the stages of what they'll get based

812
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: on how much they invest the whole thing. I mean

813
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: when I read through these, I was pissing myself when

814
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I was reading through the descriptions on them, they're absolutely awesome.

815
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: So take us through, all right, what give us the

816
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: general framework of what's taking place, and then how people

817
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: can contribute, how they can get behind you, what they

818
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: can do.

819
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So firstly, one thing I want to mention for

820
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: people who love freedom tunes. We have no plans of

821
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: stopping freedom tunes or anything like that. This is an

822
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: expansion project. This is not like we're done with freedom tunes,

823
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: we don't want to do it anymore. This is another

824
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 3: bigger project that we're trying to take on, to grow

825
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: as a studio, find an even larger audience, make something

826
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Speaker 3: that again your average person who maybe isn't as tapped

827
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: into the political news cycle, we'll be able to enjoy

828
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Speaker 3: and learn from. So Twistedplots dot com is where you

829
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 3: can go. It's going to take you to our go

830
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: fundme page and basically we've got a number of different

831
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: perk setup if you donate at the level of twenty

832
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: five or more, you will have access to our first episode,

833
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: and it's again twenty five minutes long. This episode took

834
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Speaker 3: us about eight months to make. We were working on

835
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Speaker 3: it with a smaller crew, basically as we were producing

836
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Speaker 3: Freedom Tunes. Myself and a smaller team of people were

837
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Speaker 3: working on that. And so we believe what the funding

838
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: that we're raising now and what we're asking for with

839
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: the per episode costs that we're going to have, we're

840
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Speaker 3: gonna be able to get each episode done, we believe

841
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: in about three months, so we're gonna be doing it.

842
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a five episode season. Episode one's already done,

843
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: so the plan is three months. If the first episode

844
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: has some production stalls or something like that, it might

845
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: take a bit longer than that. And if you if

846
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: you donate, by the way, we're going to keep you

847
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: updated on all of it. Like we're gonna send updates

848
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: to the people who are donating, so they know what's

849
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: going on with the episode, they know how their dollar

850
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: is being stretched. Because we aren't really really stretching people's

851
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: dollars here.

852
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: I want to give everyone like a little bit of

853
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: perspective on how.

854
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: Much animation costs because this is confusing, and I don't

855
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: blame them. When you say, like, we need this much

856
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: for this project, they go, well, I don't understand what

857
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: makes animation cost that much. So if you look at

858
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: an episode of south Park from nineteen ninety seven and

859
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: you see the animation quality of that one episode of

860
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: that show costs two hundred fifty thousand dollars to produce

861
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seven, Yeah, with that level of quality, Yeah,

862
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: with that very like respectfully could but they were trying

863
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: to do it low quality, right, That was part of

864
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: the joke, with that really low quality, choppy animation back

865
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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety seven. Adjusted for inflation, it's it's something

866
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Speaker 3: like five hundred and ten thousand. Like, we are going

867
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Speaker 3: to be able to do our entire first season for

868
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: less than it costs to do one episode of south

869
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Speaker 3: Park thirty years ago, basically twenty eight years ago, so

870
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 3: we're really stretching the dollar. But it is expensive because

871
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: we basically have to hire a team of eight to

872
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,959
Speaker 3: ten people for about three months in order to get

873
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: these episodes done. But because I believe in this project

874
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: so much, because I want it to exist in the world,

875
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: I invested company savings into getting the pilot produced, and

876
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: now we're at the point where listen, it was expensive.

877
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: It didn't cost quite as much as the episodes we're

878
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: going to be producing now are going to cost, because again,

879
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: we want to churn them out more quickly, we want

880
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: them to look nicer, we want more of the team

881
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: on them. But it was expensive, and so now we're

882
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: at the point where we have this proof of concept.

883
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: We know it's great, we know it works well, we

884
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: know the audience that has seen it has really loved it,

885
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: and so we want to be able to get the

886
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 3: rest of these episodes funded the actual wage it works

887
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: out to. And I have a little pitch video where

888
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: I explain this is, Yeah, we're.

889
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: Going to play that at the end forever Abody perfect.

890
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So maybe I can maybe I can allow you

891
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: to play that at the end. And for now, I'll

892
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: just sort of explain to people why I think this

893
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: is so important. The reason this is so important is

894
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: because again, for years and years, the left is completely

895
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: and totally dominated the entertainment landscape. And my good buddy

896
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: Tim has been doing a news show and that's extremely

897
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: important because we need news shows that aren't controlled by

898
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: the left, and it's a reason why a lot of

899
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: information has gotten out there. But we also need entertainment shows.

900
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: We need shows that are just there for you to

901
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: watch and tune out and enjoy and not necessarily think

902
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: about the world, but which can give you a positive

903
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: moral at the end of the day. So here's what

904
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: your dollar is going to be doing if you donate

905
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: to our cause and help us make this show. Firstly,

906
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: you're going to be getting good content out of this.

907
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: We do have perks. You know.

908
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: Again, if you're at the twenty five dollars level, you'll

909
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: be able to see the first episode. Even at the

910
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: ten dollars level, there are perks that you'll be able

911
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: to access, and we can go through some of those

912
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: in a bit. But you'll also be hiring and awesome.

913
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: You'll be helping to support a really awesome team of

914
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: animators who I've worked with for a long time, who

915
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: are good people who have been schurning on Freedom Tunes.

916
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: For a long time.

917
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm just going to say this, there are a lot

918
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: of people in Hollywood and in the entertainment industry and

919
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: in the animation industry who are not willing to work

920
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: with me because of my values. The people who are

921
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: working with me are really, really, really cool people, and

922
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: I believe that they deserve an opportunity to work on

923
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: a big, cool project, and some of them have, Like

924
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: we've got former Disney animators with us. I mean, yeah,

925
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: people are waking up to how awful the woke culture is.

926
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: People are waking up to how awful the left is.

927
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: And so what I'm doing is I'm coalescing a lot

928
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: of those people into a studio to build this all out.

929
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: One problem I think a lot of conservative groups that

930
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: are that have tried to make media have run into is,

931
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 3: in my humble opinion, they've taken on too much at once.

932
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: They'll go, we're gonna make twelve movies and fifteen TV shows,

933
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: and you go, that's gonna be more than you think

934
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: it's gonna be even with that huge amount of funding.

935
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: We again have ten years of experience making these cartoons,

936
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: and we want to expand out into the next logical step,

937
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: which is you know, twenty two minute long episodes, and

938
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: then from there, if that's successful, what we're gonna do

939
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: is we're gonna start expanding out into making other shows.

940
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Another season of that show or other shows or movie.

941
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: We want a movie, we want a movie. Listen.

942
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: I have multiple, like one hundred and twenty page long

943
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: screenplays that I've heard from movies that I want to

944
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: I have. I have a children's film which has like

945
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: twenty minutes of it storyboarded and animatics that that I've

946
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: I don't.

947
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Want to reveal too much.

948
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: I've been working on a lot of really cool stuff

949
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: in the background, but like right now, I believe this

950
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: project is our next sest, So we're full steam ahead

951
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: out of it on it. And once we make this,

952
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: once we release this, I think it's going to be

953
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: a gigantic hit. I think that people are gonna love it,

954
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: and it's gonna help a prove to the establishment that

955
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: shows like this can be successful, that studios like mine

956
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: are able to churn out really great content. Normally, because

957
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: animation is so expensive, only big studios and big companies

958
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: are able to finance it. But with grassroots funding from

959
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: a crowdfunding campaign, what you guys are saying with each

960
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: dollar you give is your average regular person, not your

961
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: network executive, not not your giant political donor, but your

962
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: average normal person wants this right and that such a

963
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: really clear message. And so the way crowdfunding campaigns generally

964
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: work is you want to raise as much of your

965
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: budget as possible early on, because usually you raise a

966
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: big amount right at the very beginning, a big amount

967
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: at the very end, and then in the middle it's

968
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: sort of slow and steady.

969
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: And I just want to thank our audience.

970
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: This is probably gonna be airing a couple of days

971
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: after we recorded it, but our first forty eight hours

972
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 3: we raised a third of our total budget, which is massive.

973
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that's an explosive start for a crowdfunding campaign,

974
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: and especially for an entertaining for like an entertainment crowdfunding campaign.

975
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: For entertainment crowdfunding campaigns, you're lucky if you can get

976
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: to like twenty percent and forty eight hours. So the

977
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 3: message that has already been sent, I mean, you're luck

978
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: if you can get to like ten percent.

979
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: Honestly, most of them fail.

980
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: So the message that the audience has already sent is

981
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: this is the kind of stuff want.

982
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: We want grassroots.

983
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: It's not we want like content that's not degenerate, that

984
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: does have a good message, but we also want it

985
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 3: to be produced by people who really, really care about it.

986
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: And really have a vested interests. And that's what I have.

987
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: I've got an awesome small team of some of the

988
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 3: hardest working animators in the industry who are putting the

989
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: hours in because they love what they're doing and they

990
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: want to spread this message.

991
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: Dude, Seamus, you are on fire right now and listen.

992
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this right now. The one I

993
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: want you to direct to is I want you to

994
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: check out the one one thousand dollars one because they

995
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: will design a caricature of you and put you in

996
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: the background in this series.

997
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: All right, So that's the money one right there.

998
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: For that.

999
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: I also love the Elon muss one and Elon please

1000
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: give these guys a million bucks, right, God bless you know.

1001
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Get listen.

1002
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: We want the whole colonization of Mars going on, right, Like,

1003
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: go go for it, man, Yeah, So I just yeah,

1004
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, And I just want.

1005
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: To mention for information about the what we're doing with

1006
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: background characters. We've been so surprised and like humbled, frankly

1007
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: by the amount of people who have given for that.

1008
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: I think when we saw at the end of the

1009
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: first day they were like twenty people and I'm like

1010
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: oh man, we're gonna have to like figure out a

1011
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: lot of background characters, so at some point we like

1012
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: may actually have to limit that, but we haven't limited

1013
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 3: it yet. And even you know, our first episode, we

1014
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: have the donor version finished, but it's not out yet.

1015
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: Like you you might eat, we might even put your

1016
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 3: character in the first episode because we have a couple

1017
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 3: of crowdshots there. So again, if you guys go over

1018
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 3: and donate, there's a lot of really cool perks.

1019
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: And I want to mention, are you.

1020
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: Able to put our camp paint on the screen so

1021
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: we can show them the Elon Musk issue?

1022
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: Or should I read it out loud to them? Read

1023
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: it out loud for him? All right? So we've got

1024
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: a number of different donor levels.

1025
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: If you support it to ten dollars level, your name

1026
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: is going to go and the end credits as a

1027
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: founding supporter, and you'll get instant access. Well you would

1028
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: get instant access if you donated within the first twenty

1029
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: four hours, and then for the twenty five dollars tier,

1030
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: which is the in the no tier, you'll receive updates

1031
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: through production, like information on when scripts are completed, when

1032
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: storyboards are done, and when we're entering the animation process,

1033
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: and you'll also again get access to the pilot excuse me.

1034
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: For fifty dollars, you'll receive early access to all episodes

1035
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 3: up to forty eight hours before they're released. You'll also

1036
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: get behind the scenes updates about when we move into

1037
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: certain parts of production. That kind of thing will let

1038
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: you in on a little more of the process. You

1039
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: get to the one hundred dollars level, I mean, this

1040
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: is very very generous. We really appreciate like any amount

1041
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 3: that people can donate, but obviously at this level, this

1042
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 3: is really generous. And so you'll get act says to

1043
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 3: like commentary tracks from the cast and.

1044
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: Crew for each episode.

1045
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: Is they air at an unlisted link online, and we

1046
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 3: want to do two commentary tracks, one which is like

1047
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 3: the writer track where I'll be talking about this, and

1048
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 3: then one way where it's like an animators track. I'll

1049
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 3: also be on that, but with the whole animation team.

1050
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 3: So in the writer track, I'll kind of be talking

1051
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 3: about how I flesh the story out and what the

1052
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: moral is. And then in the animation commentary track, everyone's

1053
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: going to be talking about like the production and how

1054
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: we did this, and so at the two hundred fifty

1055
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: dollars level, you'll get access to animatics and storyboard, so

1056
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 3: you can give figure, you know, feedback early on in

1057
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: the process. For that level, you know you'll will want

1058
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: to have you signed an NDA just to be like

1059
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: one hundred percent certain that the episode doesn't leak or

1060
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: information doesn't leak.

1061
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: But listen, we trust you, guys.

1062
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to do anything like that,

1063
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 3: and it'll let you in on the process. You'll also

1064
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: be able to give feedback like I really like this

1065
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: this scene.

1066
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, listen, I'm not some diva.

1067
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: If enough people of enough people are like this was

1068
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: confusing to me, or I didn't like.

1069
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: This, I want this show to be good.

1070
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: I want this it would be something you guys like,

1071
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: so I really take audience feedback very seriously. Then at

1072
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: the five hundred dollars level, we're gonna give a poster

1073
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: for the pilot episode, which is gonna be signed by

1074
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: core members of the crew who worked on the pilot,

1075
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: and when the first season's finished, you'll also receive your

1076
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: choice of like either a collectible DVD with behind the

1077
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: scenes content for season one or if you're like a hipster.

1078
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: We're also gonna do VHS tapes of the first season

1079
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: after its released. The thousand dollars level is will design

1080
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: a characaterure you, which will use as extras or background

1081
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 3: characters that might be used in backgrounds for different shots,

1082
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 3: and we're gonna keep that folder open and we're gonna

1083
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna like put you in the library of background

1084
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: characters that we draw from, which is really cool. I

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00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: think is really cool. We'll probably my favorite. I think

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: that's super awesome. And we'll have to get like, I'm

1087
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: sure we'll have to get some kind of creative release

1088
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 3: from people, but that's fine.

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00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: I mean, people are cool about that. Now.

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00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: If you're if you're like, if you're a wealthy person,

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00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: you know, and you you have this kind of money

1092
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 3: to spare. Again this, if you're donating at this level,

1093
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: this is extremely generous. We have tiers for people who

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Speaker 3: are willing to donate ten thousand if you have that

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00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: kind of cash, And what we'll do is we'll make

1096
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: and send you a poster for every single episode, and

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00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: each poster will be signed by the crew who worked

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 3: on the show, and you'll also receive all of the

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00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: above perks if you're really wealthy, If you're really wealthy

1100
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: and you really believe in this and you want to

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00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: contribute twenty five thousand, we put the option there as well.

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00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: You get all that stuff plus assigned VHS tape and

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00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: DVD containing the first season, all that signed and a

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00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: printed and signed screenplays for every episode. And then we

1105
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: have one final tier. And this tier is for five

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars and it's named Elon Musk.

1107
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm writing this, Elon.

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00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: If you pick this, I'll do a whole episode where

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00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: white South African farmers colonize Mars and make the land farmable.

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00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 3: And listen, you can't you can't blame me for trying.

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00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: You know, maybe Elon Musk comes in and funds the

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Speaker 3: whole season and then we do that episode.

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00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: That would be fantastic, bro.

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00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Either just everything about what you guys are doing is cool, man,

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00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, from the content to the delivery of the ask,

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00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, and then you, I mean you, I mean,

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00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: this is what in my mind, like, this is the

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of person that I want to support. This is

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00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: You're the kind of person that believes in your staff.

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: You're the kind of person that's humble in your creative

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00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: process and you're I mean, you're super fucking funny man.

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00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: And that man would say that's a very high praise.

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Speaker 1: So I just can't say enough about what you guys

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00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: are doing. Uh, you know, at any time, any any moment,

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to come back on, you want

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00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: to come back on whatever, at any process, we would

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00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: love to have you, Shamus, Freedom Tunes, Twisted Plot. I

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: just you guys can find them on Instagram, on YouTube,

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00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: you can find them on on x or everywhere. Just

1130
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: at Freedom Tunes. You're I just you're the real deal.

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Speaker 1: And I just can't thank you enough for coming on. Seamus.

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00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: I wish bless you, thank God bless you, and I

1133
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: just want to say it. It's Twisted Plots with an S.

1134
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: So in your browser, if you just type in twisted

1135
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 3: plots dot com, it'll take you right to the GoFundMe page.

1136
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: We have, like again, a custom page set up.

1137
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 3: There, so if you want to help support what we're doing,

1138
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: go to twisted plots dot com. Thank you, dude, thank

1139
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: you so much for having me. I really appreciate this.

1140
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 3: I want to thank you for having me. I also

1141
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: I want to thank your audience for taking the time

1142
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: to listen to me. You know, every now and again

1143
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: someone says, I really want to support this, but like

1144
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 3: I don't have any money. Listen, man, I totally get

1145
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: at the fact that you want to support this at all.

1146
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Really means a lot to me.

1147
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: What people can do if they're strapped for cash, but

1148
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: they really like this, they really want to see this

1149
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: become a show. Just share it, Just share it, Share

1150
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: our pitch video, guys, And a share means so much

1151
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: more than an AD because people, you know, are like,

1152
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 3: think about this.

1153
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: Are you more likely to.

1154
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: Donate to something you saw in an AD or that

1155
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 3: you saw a flared trust share something someone shared it?

1156
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1157
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: So if you, guys, if you're not able to help financially,

1158
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: but you want to see this become a reality, just

1159
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: share our link out please.

1160
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: And I'm going one.

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00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: More deeper, Seamus. I want everybody who loves the show.

1162
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: I want you to share the Twisted Plots a promo

1163
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: with Elon Musk. I want him to get fifty thousand.

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00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 5: Shares a day for the next like I want a

1165
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 5: gorilla slam that motherfucker, And I want him to see

1166
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 5: this and put his money where his mouth is.

1167
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: Because this is exactly what he supports.

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Speaker 6: I guess I'll have to make an episode of the

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00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 6: show that the South African farmers are going to go

1170
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 6: tomar yes, us yes, to make the show then aid dollars.

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Speaker 6: Of course, that's I figure. I have that in between

1172
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Speaker 6: my cushions somewhere. Let me send here, but I have that.

1173
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 6: We'll do the way shout African episode.

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00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 2: Oh my God, help you. Yeah, God, bless you, brother,

1175
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: keep it. Ess you man, thank you, you're the man. Yeah.

1176
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: After over six hundred animated videos, gaining a million subscribers

1177
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 3: and a quarter billion views, all with zero dollars spent

1178
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 3: on marketing, it is time for me to answer the question.

1179
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 3: My wonderful audience has been asking for years, when are

1180
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: you gonna make something big? When are you going to

1181
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 3: graduate to making shows and movies and that kind of thing.

1182
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: And the answer to that question is now, and with

1183
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: your help, I have been developing a comedy anthology series.

1184
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: It's a social satire.

1185
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: Each episode is over twenty two minutes long and explores

1186
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: an insane and hilarious premise which conveys our values not

1187
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: through ham fisted preaching like a lot of quote unquote

1188
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: anti woke shows if attempted, but organically, through fun and

1189
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 3: engaging storytelling, the show has a conservative angle. You won't

1190
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: have to be conservative to enjoy it. That's why it's

1191
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 3: going to shape culture. These episodes all range in tone.

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00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: The pilot's much goofier and zanier and more.

1193
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: Off the wall.

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 3: Other episodes are darker and more serious with a dry sensibility.

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: Others are somewhere in between. Now Here's the thing. Animation

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00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: is extremely expensive. I can't afford to fund this whole show.

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00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: Out of pocket. For a little bit of perspective.

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: An episode of The Simpsons takes nine months and costs

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Speaker 3: five million dollars. For Family Guy at six months and

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00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: it costs two million. South Park does each episode and

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00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: a week on a five hundred thousand and two million

1202
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: dollars per episode budget, so they can hire a really

1203
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: big crew. But with tight budgeting, an extremely dedicated team,

1204
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 3: and the very efficient pipeline I've worked out over the years,

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00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to produce the entire first

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00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 3: season of our show for less than the cost of

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Speaker 3: one episode of South Park. In fact, we're gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to make our entire first season for the amount

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Speaker 3: that it costs to make one South Park episode in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, our entire season for five hundred thousand dollars. Now,

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Speaker 3: I know some of you are asking how, and others

1212
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: are asking how for each episode, we're gonna need eight

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Speaker 3: to ten people myself included working forty to sixty hour

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Speaker 3: weeks for about three months. Once you factor in payroll taxes,

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00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: that one hundred twenty five thousand per episode budget works

1216
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: out to about fifteen to thirty an hour, depending on

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Speaker 3: the animator and their level of experience. Seamus, you did

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00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: bad math silly cartoonists at five hundred thousand dollars. That's

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand per episode, not one hundred twenty five thousand. Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess you weren't counting on me putting my money

1221
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: where my mouth is. We've already made the entire first

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Speaker 3: episode and I paid for it completely out of pocket.

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Speaker 2: How much did you pay for it?

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, that's none of your business, but I can

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00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 4: assure you certainly wasn't cheape.

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Speaker 3: It didn't cost one hundred twenty five thousand. I wish

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00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: I had that kind of cake to throw around.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Tim Poole.

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00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 3: Okay, So we had to cut a couple of corners,

1230
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: and it took a good while longer to make than

1231
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: we want the show to but it's still turned out great,

1232
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: and we've already produced the first episode of our show

1233
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: without any outside funding.

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Speaker 2: But now I'm strapped for cash.

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00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: I can't make this whole season on a pocket which

1236
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: gives us the opportunity to make it together. Help me

1237
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: to make something good, something that takes the audience seriously,

1238
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: something that you'll be rewarded for contributing to, not just

1239
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: with a great show, but perks like artwork from the production,

1240
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: virtual premiere parties, getting put in as background characters, getting

1241
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 3: to watch the pilot.

1242
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: As soon as you donate. It's not command YouTube for

1243
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: another couple of months. Please come join us. This is

1244
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: our time.

1245
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 3: We don't have to wait around for big studios to

1246
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: decide to start to serve us, or for big investors

1247
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: to put money into some conservative startup.

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00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: We can do this now.

1249
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: I've got the equipment, I've got the team, and I've

1250
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: got the experience.

1251
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: Give me your support and I will of everything I need.