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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull.

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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: Edo state is that?

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Speaker 2: Woo whoom and them and tie Welcome back to the

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Speaker 2: solid verbal boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrandt,

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Speaker 2: joining me as always way over there, still in sunny

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Speaker 2: southern California, the One, the only, My good friend Dan Rubenstein, Sir,

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Speaker 2: how you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I just had my throat coat tee tie.

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Speaker 1: Oh So if I sound extra dynamic and robust and

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Speaker 1: full of life and vigor for a late June early

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Speaker 1: July college football podcast, that is why interesting. So you're doping, essentially,

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Speaker 1: is what you're telling me. I am. I actually considered

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Speaker 1: much energy. So I am here. I am excited to

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Speaker 1: talk about news. I'm excited to play round two of

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Speaker 1: your RPG, your role playing game. To be clear, it's

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Speaker 1: not a weapon, a rocket propelled weapon. No, no, I

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Speaker 1: could not be happier because last year is addition, paired

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Speaker 2: We will get into that and much much more and

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Speaker 2: walk everyone through the paces of what exactly are college

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Speaker 2: football role playing Game two point zero I might add

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Speaker 2: or version twenty twenty, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: Baseball analogy, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We have bragging news. Boop boop boop boop boop. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how breaking this is. It's the off season,

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Speaker 2: but as you know, there's a lot going on in

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Speaker 2: the world right now. Dan, Yes. Shortly before we hit

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Speaker 2: the record button, our friend Dennis dodd Over at CBS

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Speaker 2: Sports posted a link to his article coronavirus in college

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Speaker 2: football hospitalizations deaths projected by data analysts if FBS plays

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. So a lot to unpack just in

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Speaker 2: that title, He of course is saying, if if college

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Speaker 2: talking to a gentleman by the name of doctor Sheldon Jacobson.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if these numbers are shocking

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Speaker 2: that point, Dan more, Clemson players have tested positive. They

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Speaker 2: under Armour made some yeas they are terminating their agreements

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Speaker 2: such an event, and we are exercising that right. This

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Speaker 2: is a big deal. Two hundred and eighty million dollars

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Speaker 2: a big deal. UCLA is going to fight it. It

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Speaker 2: Perhaps they're missing out on course and they want to

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Speaker 2: and not have to scramble for a new apparel company.

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Speaker 1: I liked UCLA's statement on the matter of saying that

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Speaker 1: they still remain committed to outfitting UCLA athletes in apparel

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Speaker 1: and footwear and everything like that, they remain committed to

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Speaker 1: cashing checks and getting free gear. They remain committed to it. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: And YadA, YadA YadA. You stole Howard's Rock and eventually

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Speaker 2: Daniel. Amid widespread unrest stemming from the pandemic as well

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk. You're speaking my language here.

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Speaker 2: favor of that. I do think though, the part that

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Speaker 2: you're overlooking, oh kind Czar, is that that mechanism, that

434
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Speaker 2: organization around, how do the players actually get money from this.

435
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Speaker 2: Is there a player union? Is it something that you're

436
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Speaker 2: going to set up out of the goodness of your

437
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Speaker 2: heart that will be like an Office of Player Relations

438
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Speaker 2: something of that. ILK. That's the part that's missing. That's

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Speaker 2: the conduit to getting these guys the money that they deserve.

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Speaker 1: It's not a full union. It's part of the NC DOUBLEA.

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Speaker 1: Is an advocacy program. It's part of the name, image

442
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Speaker 1: likeness element of things. But it's I suppose it's not

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining. But it's somebody running this. I guess it

444
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be part of the NC double A. I am

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Speaker 1: going to partner with a third party that is going

446
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Speaker 1: to do does it for the NFL partner with those guys?

447
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: You're right, it's the NFLPA partners with a company, a

448
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: licensing company. So I'm going to do that for college football.

449
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Speaker 1: I'm going to implore whoever it does for whoever does

450
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Speaker 1: it for the NFL to create a college wing.

451
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Speaker 2: And they're trying to work on something like that. Now, actually, yes, reality,

452
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Speaker 2: So all right, I like the ideas the good news here.

453
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Speaker 2: So does Supreme Leader Luck.

454
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Speaker 1: He loves them, even I don't like that title.

455
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Speaker 2: He wants to talk to you about some multi level

456
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Speaker 2: marketing stuff that he's got going too, and you got

457
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Speaker 2: the top, sir, he does. Yeah, but you're great for

458
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Speaker 2: this job. The problem is, the pandemic has hit college

459
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Speaker 2: football in a big way and right where it hurts

460
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Speaker 2: in the pocketbook. There's a real worry here that some

461
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Speaker 2: programs aren't gonna be able to make it. They're not

462
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Speaker 2: gonna be able to take the financial hit from bad attendance,

463
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Speaker 2: from the cost of preventing the coronavirus, of monitoring it,

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Speaker 2: of treating it, and just in general, the possibility of

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Speaker 2: fewer games. That's a big deal. What is your plan

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Speaker 2: for keeping as many programs as possible afloat, but yet

467
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Speaker 2: still keeping the season as interesting as possible?

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Speaker 1: Glad you asked, Ty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, glad you ask. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to attach this from I'm going to

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Speaker 1: attack it from both a safety and financial perspective. Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I looked up recent Olympic games. Now we mentioned the

473
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Speaker 1: bubble idea that I think some professional sports leagues are attempting.

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Speaker 1: So the NBA is going to the Orlando Disney Wide

475
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Speaker 1: World of Sports Complex and staying in a bunch of

476
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Speaker 1: luxurious hotels. There are far more people involved in major

477
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Speaker 1: college football than they are involved in the NBA. So

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Speaker 1: I looked at recent Olympic villages. Tye Olympic villages can

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Speaker 1: house between fifteen to twenty fousand people when fully operational.

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Speaker 1: Now there is kind of a roadblock there as we know, well,

481
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Speaker 1: there's a couple roadblocks. One, they're not active anymore right now.

482
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Speaker 1: They're very temporary spaces. But with enough lead up time

483
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Speaker 1: and motivation, I think we can get them up and

484
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Speaker 1: running once again because the land is there. They're generally

485
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Speaker 1: in bigger cities. But we have to consider probably many things.

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Speaker 1: But as far as my brain can work, two major things,

487
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Speaker 1: it's got to be in a place that hasn't been

488
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Speaker 1: hit hard in a public healthway by the coronavirus, the

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Speaker 1: novel coronavirus COVID nineteen. Also time zone wise, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we can go to Pyongyang tie no. I don't

491
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Speaker 1: think we can go to Sochi. I don't think we

492
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Speaker 1: can go to I don't think we can even go

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Speaker 1: to London or Tokyo. Tokyo was supposed to house the

494
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty Olympic Games. So I was looking at recent

495
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Speaker 1: Olympic games, and I wanted to be able to take

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Speaker 1: those things into consideration. Tie. We're taking college football to Vancouver,

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Speaker 1: British Columbia.

498
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Speaker 2: Tie, I thought you're gonna see Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. This country is not doing super

500
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Speaker 1: well right now. Tie, Okay, not I would I would

501
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Speaker 1: like to keep it out, especially the American Southwest and

502
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: West Coast as we record this in late June. And

503
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Speaker 1: this is not a laughing matter. I want to be

504
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Speaker 1: very clear. If I'm taking a bubble element of a

505
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Speaker 1: college football season seriously in this make believe world, I

506
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of have to base a little bit of it

507
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Speaker 1: in reality. And the reality is Canada is okay. Canada's

508
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: all right right now, you take it up to Vancouver.

509
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Speaker 1: They have multiple stadiums. It's not a war zone, so

510
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Speaker 1: it's relatively safe public health wise and otherwise. So you know,

511
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Speaker 1: you don't want to necessarily go to places that have

512
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Speaker 1: built up facilities in the Middle East because they're supposed

513
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Speaker 1: to house a World Cup. I don't want it. I

514
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Speaker 1: don't want any part of that. Okay. So there are

515
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Speaker 1: facilities with the Olympic Ville and with stadiums, there's where

516
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Speaker 1: you have the BC Lions or a CFL team. You

517
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Speaker 1: got the Canucks. There's an MLS team. There. There are

518
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Speaker 1: stadiums or stadia, I forget what it is the plural

519
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Speaker 1: there are. There are stadiums that can be rotated. There

520
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: aren't going to be that many fans, if any at all,

521
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Speaker 1: So I'm not really that concerned about a small MLS stadium,

522
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Speaker 1: you know, housing Alabama ls or something.

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Speaker 2: You were a kid when you said some of your

524
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Speaker 2: ideas tonight we're going to be out there, were you?

525
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Speaker 1: So we have multiple stadiums, no real time zone issues,

526
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Speaker 1: right ty, it's Pacific time, Pacific time, so it's not terrible.

527
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: We can all get used to, you know, early kickoffs whatever,

528
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Speaker 1: so we have no real time zone issues. I still

529
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Speaker 1: want them to be getting an education, these players. Wi

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Speaker 1: Fi is great in Vancouver. Wi fi is I did

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Speaker 1: look it up. There no Republic Wi Fi and obviously

532
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: it's it's an advanced, first world city. The Wi Fi

533
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Speaker 1: is very, very good. I've been to Vancouver a couple

534
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Speaker 1: of times. The food is since.

535
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Speaker 2: But if you're in a bubble, you can't go out.

536
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Speaker 1: I'm not it can be catered. Tie can bring food in. Yes,

537
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Speaker 1: absolutely strong international community in Vancouver, BC. And you got

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Speaker 1: good healthcare in Canada. Tie, all right, We've got good

539
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Speaker 1: healthcare in Vancouver. In terms of our limited options, Vancouver

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Speaker 1: is where I'm creating the bubble. Now, what is in

541
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Speaker 1: it for Vancouver? Free pub the solid verbals, coming along

542
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: for the ride.

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Speaker 2: We're coming. We're going to Vancouver. Baby.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's in it for Vancouver, but that's

545
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Speaker 1: the best I can do right now. Now you're asking

546
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Speaker 1: about how do we get teams, programs, people working really

547
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: hard in college football, how do we get them paid

548
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: because they're going to take a hit financially with you know,

549
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: nobody in crowds. And we'll see how TV responds to

550
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: two things. If there's a limited schedule, if it's conference

551
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: games only, there's just the pots smaller tie. I hear you.

552
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: In game fan purchases, you can send in tips after

553
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: great plays to the team.

554
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: And now this is like what Woody Harrelson did in

555
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: The Hunger Games where he was able to send like

556
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Speaker 2: the medication to Jennifer Lawrence.

557
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Speaker 1: Didn't watch that movie. I'm taking your word for it.

558
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: It didn't watch The Hunger Games, but big fan of

559
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Speaker 1: jylaw Tie sure, no, no, nothing against her. You send

560
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: it in game purchases. You see that in your your

561
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: mobile gaming that you can you can buy a sword,

562
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: or you can buy health or whatever. In game purpose purchases,

563
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: the tips go to sports and healthcare. Okay, they go

564
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Speaker 1: to the teams that go to healthcare and everything that

565
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Speaker 1: that is needed and essential employees, not the coaches that

566
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Speaker 1: are you know, sort of low on the totem pole.

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Speaker 1: Totem pole British Columbia reference. Don't know if you caught

568
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: that one or for it just zoomed over your head.

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Speaker 1: It M sorry, okay. Also, we're partnering with cameo. Are

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Speaker 1: you familiar with camiliar with cameo? Have I sent you

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Speaker 1: a cameo tie?

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Speaker 2: You did send me a cameo of Dean Blandino a

573
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Speaker 2: couple months back, so just telling you to keep your

574
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Speaker 2: head up. I did know it was good and it

575
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: was great. He have we talked about that on the

576
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Speaker 2: show before.

577
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Speaker 1: No I sent you a Dean Blandino cameoellions, Yeah, you

578
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: were working very hard. You still are secret day job

579
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Speaker 1: with solid verbal players keep half of their cameo revenue.

580
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: So cameo is a service that on your phone or

581
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Speaker 1: on your computer. Not a sponsor, but it's just become

582
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: popular and part of the becon could be a sponsor.

583
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Speaker 1: We've been asked to beat cameo people, and I don't

584
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Speaker 1: think we've accepted I hope yet. Players can record videos

585
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: and send well wishes to fans. Happy birthday, Steve, Brian

586
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Speaker 1: Kelly sends a cameo Happy birthday, Mama, h or congratulations

587
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Speaker 1: on all seventeen of your grandchildren, mom, and you know

588
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. Players keep half half goes to non

589
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Speaker 1: revenue sports. All right, is that it's no, no, no,

590
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Speaker 1: that's two. Number three. Number three is by my big

591
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Speaker 1: money maker Tie.

592
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Speaker 2: This is the Galaxy brain idea of the Galaxy Brain game.

593
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Speaker 1: I mentioned pods, Okay, not scheduling purposes, scheduling pods for

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Speaker 1: the purposes as college footballs are for scheduling. I am

595
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Speaker 1: talking now about literal pods. Boosters pay premium donations to

596
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Speaker 1: get to watch the game in an enclosed glass pod,

597
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: a top a top TV style camera. Cherry pickers lining

598
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Speaker 1: the field in Vancouver, and those those cherry picker pods

599
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Speaker 1: ceremonially escort them in and out of the stadium. And

600
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Speaker 1: what do boosters love more than credit and attention and

601
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Speaker 1: special perks.

602
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Speaker 2: I think that's it.

603
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Speaker 1: I think that's why they're boosters to begin with. They

604
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Speaker 1: get escorted in cherry pickers inside luxurious glass pods that

605
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Speaker 1: are watching it above the sideline, above the sideline, and

606
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Speaker 1: we're talking about million dollar donations.

607
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Can you can you hook one of those up to

608
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Speaker 2: a spider cam you want them above the field. I'm

609
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Speaker 2: just wondering if it's I don't know if it's physically possible.

610
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Speaker 2: I don't how strong those cables are. But it's an action.

611
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Speaker 1: I have to draw a line somewhere and now in

612
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Speaker 1: reality at some point. So that's my third idea to

613
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Speaker 1: generate millions literal enclosed glass pots.

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Speaker 2: I'm disappointed, thoughts. I'm disappointed you didn't mention real time

615
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: scheduling because real time scheduling has very quickly become my

616
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Speaker 2: new favorite concept about what could happen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so everybody's in the same place and just like

618
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Speaker 1: schedule whoever, because we're all on Vancouver anyway.

619
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean in your example, I guess that would

620
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Speaker 2: be true. But I'm talking like here in the real world,

621
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Speaker 2: where we've got like Ohio State, maybe their upcoming opponent

622
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Speaker 2: has come down with a COVID outbreak and they've suddenly

623
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Speaker 2: got two open slots on the schedule. And maybe Clemson's

624
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: in a similar boat because their whole team got it

625
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: back in the beginning of August. Right, not a joking matter,

626
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: not a joking matter, might happen, and they just decide,

627
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Speaker 2: you know what, we're not going to have a regular

628
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: postseason this year anyway, So why don't we just play

629
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Speaker 2: each other on September twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: That would be damn cool, That would be damd would

631
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Speaker 1: But then you're you're still talking about travel unless we're

632
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Speaker 1: in a bubble situation, like I've out.

633
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Speaker 2: Unless we're in a bubble situation. But I think the

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00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: first thing that you got to do is throw out

635
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Speaker 2: all the old rules and just kind of assume that

636
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: this season is going to be a one off. Let's

637
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: see what we can cobble together. Let's do real time scheduling,

638
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: let's find some way to expand rosters.

639
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know I would with the real time scheduling,

640
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: the flex scheduling. I would say, you create a new

641
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Speaker 1: show and charge I had revenue whatever, create you know,

642
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: strike a deal with Fox or ESPN or whoever. Every

643
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: week there's a lottery show that decides who is going

644
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Speaker 1: to play.

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: Oh, like who's it's like when you show up at

646
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: the at the court, like your neighborhood basketball court, and like, yes,

647
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: you just get to pick from the available parties as

648
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: to who's going to be on your team. In this sense,

649
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: who's going to be on your schedule. That's not bad,

650
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: that's not bad.

651
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further with your analogy. The

652
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: coaches have to shoot three pointers for two pair off,

653
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: the next two pair off, and so forth.

654
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, well, these are good, These

655
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: are pretty good.

656
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Ty He gave it lits of thoughts, a little out there,

657
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: but I like, well, so here here's my question. How

658
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: much of everything that we're talking about, because you mentioned

659
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen in this one, are we basing everything in

660
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: a mirrored modern reality or we or this is just

661
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: a are we assuming some degree of normalcy? If you

662
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: don't mention it otherwise?

663
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: Well, would you like to get to the next question.

664
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: I think that'd be.

665
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Great, Daniel. Your proposals have ushered it an era of

666
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: optimism in college football, and there's ready bits of talk

667
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: that maybe you should take over for mister Luck. Even

668
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: some chatow that you should run for public office. And

669
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: you know you've been adamant politics isn't your thing. But

670
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: you keeping an eye on those Q ratings, aren't you?

671
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh boys?

672
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: Always things are going well. So now you've got the

673
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: leeway to work on a passion project, the PAC twelve. Dan,

674
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: let me kill the music here. We're gonna get serious.

675
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Now.

676
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: You've long felt that the PAC twelve is a broken conference.

677
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: It's got a bad vision for the future. So you

678
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: want to take it under your wing. You want to

679
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: level the playing field. Do you want to turn the

680
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: PAC twelve into the SEC wild West? What do you do?

681
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: What's your plan?

682
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to base this slightly in reality,

683
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: because there are just better high school football players in

684
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: the South, and there are more resources, and there are

685
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: probably always gonna be more resources because football is culturally

686
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: just miles ahead as a cultural touch point touchdown in

687
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: the South than it is on the West Coast. But

688
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything I can, nonetheless, So first point,

689
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: the conference will strongly strongly suggest to programs that they

690
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: hire head coaches currently coaching west of the Rockies either

691
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: promoted from within, so there's momentum, continuity, familiarity connection. We've

692
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: seen that work at places that have succeeded in the

693
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: Pac twelve with Oregon most recently Mario Christabaul promoted within,

694
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly promoted within, Mike Blody not promoted within. But

695
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: West Coast roots, or those coaches that are to be

696
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: hired as head coaches have roots in states west of

697
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the Rockies. The disaster situate situation with a promising coach

698
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: is what happened with mel Tucker, where yes, the money

699
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: is just going to be better in the Big ten,

700
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: But if a coach were from a region west of

701
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: the Rockies, perhaps the pull to stay because of family,

702
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: because you know, his wife is from there, his kids,

703
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, feel comfortable on the West Coast, his parents

704
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: is in laws, whatever, they're from the West Coast. I

705
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: think that's key. Mel Tucker from the Midwest, coach in

706
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: college in the Midwest, coaching the pros in the Midwest,

707
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: coaching college in the South, first opportunity he got after

708
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: one year back to the Midwest. Roots are important. TI,

709
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: that's number one. Does that make sense?

710
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Sure?

711
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: No, Absolutely, get on CBS or NBC. So the CBS

712
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: deal with the SEC is quickly coming up, and ESPN

713
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: is going to take it over. It's the worst kept

714
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: secret in college football media. Get on network TV. I

715
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: think you have to find a solution to the PAC

716
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: twelve network. A lot of really good people there, but

717
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I would say the conference owning its network, given the

718
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: conference's place in the sports pecking order, not amazing. Not

719
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: an amazing result thus far. Get on network TV.

720
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts around.

721
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: Tom Hammond as part of this.

722
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Well, obviously I would assume as much, but what are

723
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: your thoughts around you know, I remember when the PAC

724
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: twelve deal came up last time that there were places

725
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: like Google, maybe even Amazon bidding on it. Do you

726
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: think that I think potential?

727
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: No, I thought that for a long time. I think

728
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: it's an interesting option because they would pay a lot

729
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: of money. College football is an older sport ty. We

730
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: are mere babies in the grand scheme of things. I'm

731
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: going to say, your parents, my parents, everybody's listenings. Parents

732
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: are probably going to be more inclined to find a

733
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: game on CBS or NBC. Do you have fun talking

734
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: to your older relatives about how to use an Apple

735
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: TV or a roku. Do you have fun doing it

736
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: all the time. Let's make it easy for fans of

737
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: an older sport, how about that?

738
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: Sure? Okay?

739
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, And my final point, Ty, I'm going to

740
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: overh all what quote unquote academics means if players have

741
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: a limited time to pursue quote unquote school. Okay, So

742
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: I need to make my member institutions attractive to people

743
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: all over the country because the local talent, while pretty good,

744
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: can't really compete with the Midwest or the South. So

745
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 1: we need to bring people to Arizona State, it's warm,

746
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: it's great. We need to bring people to cal good academics,

747
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: expensive place to live. We need to bring people to

748
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: La to Washington State, to Seattle, whatever that are probably hundreds,

749
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: if not thousands of miles away. And so we need

750
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: to make this an experience. So we are selling parents

751
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: on the fact that we are creating new academic tracks

752
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: that I think they need to lean into existing interests.

753
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: I think they need to still offer variety and breath.

754
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: You still need to have a certain degree of academ

755
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: academia whatever involved. But I want to involve travel. I

756
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: want more hands on learning. I want more input from

757
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: former players as to what resonated with them. I want

758
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: more professional training. I want more internships. How about micro classes? Tie,

759
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: how about five week classes? So you're getting a little

760
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: of everything. You're getting a sort of a brain buffet.

761
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: And I want I want again more experiences over sitting

762
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: and learning European history. If European history is something you dig,

763
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: we can work that out for you, right. But I

764
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: want the college experience to sort of fill up your

765
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: brain for something beyond football in a fun way. How

766
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: about that?

767
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: Some other ideas here, low hanging fruit that I think

768
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: you missed. Okay, I think you know California is obviously

769
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: pursuing this image and likeness legislation as Florida has already.

770
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one came first or which one

771
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: came second, but they're both going to be doing it

772
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: very shortly, and by the time you get to this

773
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: passion project, you know that will be a thing. I

774
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: think you could probably lure some top athletic talent from

775
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: out of the South if you can prove that your

776
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: conference has some tried and true way of connecting up

777
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: potential sponsors with athletes. Now I know the way that

778
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: the bill is drawn up and such that it kind

779
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: of takes that out of the hands of the ncdplay

780
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: But there are probably some creative solutions that can get

781
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: you around that. To provide that pipeline where players can

782
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: go and earn a buck might be intriguing to lure

783
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: some of that talent from the South out West. That's

784
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: the first thing that comes to mind.

785
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: Where's every major Hollywood agency and tech company based with

786
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: state California? I think it's California, not all. I guess

787
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, if you want to want to bumble sponsorship,

788
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: you got it. You might have to go to Austin

789
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: or something, but there's a lot in California in terms

790
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: of platforms. I agree, So.

791
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: I just think that's something that could be harvested and

792
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: used to your benefit. The other thing, I don't know

793
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: if you mentioned this, but Low Hanging Fruit, we got

794
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: to start games at ten am local time, more games

795
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: at ten am local time, so that it has more

796
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: appealing to the East Coast audience. Maybe that goes hand

797
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: in hand with your migration over to America's most watched network, CBS.

798
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: But I just think the time zone thing really really

799
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: factors in for a lot of folks.

800
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slap you back with a little bit of

801
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: reality hand here. Ty, you're not from the West Coast.

802
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: I am not.

803
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: You have not spent a lot of time on the

804
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: West Coast. No, something that I think I think people

805
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: perhaps in the Midwest or the Northeast may not recognize

806
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: things are far apart on the West Coast. Geography is violent, right,

807
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Freeways are long.

808
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: So if we're.

809
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: Talking about a ten am local kick, you're essentially eliminating

810
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: tailgating from pretty much anyone not already living in the

811
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: radius of that college town. People from Portland take what

812
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: anywhere from an hour forty five, two and a half

813
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: three hours to get to Eugene on game day. That's

814
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking from specific experience. You know about traffic

815
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: in La Now, I don't think traffic is terrible in

816
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. Perhaps I'm wrong. I'm just guessing. I

817
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think traffic is perhaps terrible in and around Boulder,

818
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: but things are still far apart. It takes time to

819
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: get to these places. So you're saying tailgating is amazing

820
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: for everybody except on the West Coast. You guys, you

821
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: guys have to change your ways. For me and Brooklyn,

822
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: for you and Allentown, and for Chip Patterson in Raleigh,

823
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: North Carolina.

824
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: That's I mean, I said it, But what are your

825
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 2: intentions here? Are you trying to cater to the tailgating crowd?

826
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: Are you trying to make the PAC twelve into something

827
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: more than what it already is? I don't think.

828
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: I think the problem with the PAC twelve is not

829
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: that the games are starting at a weird time. That's

830
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: not the entire problem. The problem is the product itself.

831
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: If we had all sorts of mid AUT's usc, Chip

832
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: Kelly Era Oregon Early David Shaw, Jim Harbas Stanford, if

833
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: we had interesting teams, you know, like the Rudy Carpenter

834
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: Sam kellen Keller fun Asu throwing teams. If we had

835
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: up and down interesting teams with good coaches playing top

836
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: fifteen matchups every week, I don't think it matters what times,

837
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 1: what time the game starts. If those games have national implications,

838
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: all right, shall.

839
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: We move on?

840
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: Dan? Okay, so I guess I win that round.

841
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: Well, we're not doing an argument. I know this is not.

842
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: We're not doing the Judge Wackner thing that we did

843
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: that I got nailed for on social media. We're not

844
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: doing that, I know, okay, just giving you things to

845
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: think about here, and I haven't found the thing yet

846
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: that really jumps out at me as needing a good needling.

847
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll get there. But I answered that, I

848
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: will also say, move USC to San Diego. It's all

849
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: the good of California, beaches, food, weather, They're far fewer distractions.

850
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: San Diego is low key, very boring. It doesn't have

851
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: the stigma of LA in terms of home prices and

852
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: sitting in traffic and the glitz and glamour. San Diego

853
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: is just chill. It's by the water, you can eat great.

854
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: San Diego State might have a problem with that, and

855
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't care.

856
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: And we'll get to San Diego State, and you're going

857
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: to attract probably better coaching candidates to San Diego than

858
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: you are La. It's not the overwhelming big cities sitting

859
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: on the ten, sitting on the one ten whatever. To

860
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: get to USC, it's going to be a lot more picturesque.

861
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: And I love LA, It's my favorite city in the universe.

862
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: But I could understand why LA is not the best

863
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: college town to recruit coaches and players.

864
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: San Diego State might have an issue with that, but.

865
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. San Diego State will learn to love it.

866
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: Moving on. One night, you are awoken by an ominous

867
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 2: knock at your door. You throw on your embroidered Czar

868
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: of college football robe. You rarely answer it. Outside. It's

869
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: a non descript man wearing a trench coat, a cigarette

870
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: in one hand's a Manilla envelope in the other. It's

871
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: real this time, Danny, he's saying, tossing the envelope at

872
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: your feet and walking away, blowing smoke rings into the night. Inside,

873
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 2: you are a stunned to see the schematics directly from

874
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: the Power Five Conference commissioners, and it appears they have

875
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: set aside a time, a schedule, and a structure. They're

876
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: going to secede from your perfect college football union and

877
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: they're going to play it on their own, for their

878
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: own title, their own rules, under their own different zar.

879
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: What do you do, Dan, What do you do? Tie?

880
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna answer your question with another question.

881
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: You watch a lot of Quibi videos.

882
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: Quibi No, isn't that like a lot of a month?

883
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: You watch a lot of Verizon Go ninety No, why

884
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: don't you watch them because it costs money. It's not

885
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: a good it's not a good name, it's not a

886
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: good brand. Sure costs money, not a good brand. There's

887
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: a stigma. Even already attached to Quibi poured billions of

888
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: dollars into it and couldn't make it work. Sound familiar, tie,

889
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: sound familiar. Okay, So what I am doing. Sometimes there

890
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: is just value in recognizing reality. Sometimes there is just

891
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: value in saying this isn't working, and I'm gonna do

892
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: something about it sooner rather than later. So I college

893
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: football z are with all sorts of success up and

894
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: down this great land. I'm gonna collect every bit of

895
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: intel possibly can about the NCAA's operation. I'm going to

896
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: make a list of the smartest, most forward thinking people

897
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: at the company that includes nobody in enforcement, by the way,

898
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: and I'm going to offer up my services along with

899
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: that inside information and hiring recommendations to the new operation

900
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm going.

901
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: So you're you're saying you want to leave and.

902
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Go with them, I'm leaving and going with them.

903
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, now hold on here, hold on the wind.

904
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: The wind of change is upon.

905
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. The problem with that is that what

906
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: you've found in that Manila envelope is that they've already

907
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: identified some candidates to be that. There's Zar of college Football.

908
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's Bud Elliott, but Elliott, I don't care.

909
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: Guessing is top of the list. So you are now

910
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: gonna basically go and lick the boots of these Power

911
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: five commissioners and say, pick me, pick me, pick me.

912
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem to fit with your mo o.

913
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to be sort of a tzar at large.

914
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm going to sort of ease into

915
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: retirement off of all the good vibes of moving the

916
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: sport to Vancouver, British Columbia, of fixing the PAC twelve,

917
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: of doing all sorts of things that enhance the pocketbooks

918
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: and brands of the sport and the schools they'rein. So

919
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: what I am doing is saying I'm not going to

920
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: stay aboard a sinking ship, a clearly sinking ship. Tie.

921
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: If I'm making my bones in major college football, major

922
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: college football is sailing away from me. Come on, who's

923
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: ever won a battle against currents? Tie against the tide.

924
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: So you're saying, you know where the gravy train is,

925
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: and absolutely you're going to do whatever you can to

926
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: stick with it. What about the other schools?

927
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: Just good business?

928
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: What about the other schools? A group of five? What

929
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: about them? Ty?

930
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: You know me, You know my life. I very rarely

931
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: align myself with losers. It's not going to start now.

932
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Ah, You're going to catch some hell for that one.

933
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: Man.

934
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: I hate to tell you.

935
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying losers in terms of

936
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the product on the field, in terms of the institutions themselves.

937
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking about losers if we're talking bottom line tie. Now,

938
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: I have my own plan for potentially the non power

939
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: programs to succeed. But in a world in which Power

940
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: five programs exist, it's a tough cell. Tie. It just

941
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: is Are you going to any sort of rinky dink

942
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: supermarket operation tie? Or are you going to Wegmans? I

943
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: go to whatever's closest. But align yourself in the best

944
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I know for a fact you had

945
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: options out there when it came to romance. What did

946
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: you do? You went with the best? Right? I Yeah,

947
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out something to say that doesn't

948
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. You went with the best? I

949
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: did you could have broadcast this show into a blue

950
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: yetti microphone. I could, did you?

951
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: No, of course not.

952
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: You went with the best. You saw where the world

953
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: was going, and it wasn't going into a blue yetty right.

954
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: See. I just don't think this is like a Napster situation,

955
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 2: where you know, the recording industry could have gotten behind

956
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: Napster and then it was too late and then they

957
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: made fools of themselves and eventually had to do it anyway.

958
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I don't see this being that

959
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: kind of situation.

960
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: If all of these schools are aligned tie. If they're

961
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: all aligned, they'll do whatever they want. They hope the leverage.

962
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: Hmm.

963
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: It's just business. This isn't personal.

964
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: There's been talk for a long time that the Power

965
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: five should just break away, even that a smaller subset

966
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: of the Power five should break away. They should play

967
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: for their own deal, because let's face it, any given year,

968
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: there's what ten teams that have a chance for the

969
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: national championship.

970
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: M hmm.

971
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: Part of the idea behind like a relegation style college

972
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: football season, when the top teams stay in the bottom

973
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: four let's say go down to a different division. Part

974
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 2: of that idea I think stems from the fact that

975
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: there really are only a handful of teams that have

976
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: a shot each year.

977
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: There's just too much politicking in this case, because there's

978
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: too many conferences, there's too many commissioners, there's too many

979
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: athletic directors. If they're all aligned, they already have existing

980
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: TV deals. The NC DOUBLEA is there to enforce rules

981
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: and sort of organize things they can come up. This

982
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: isn't relegation, This isn't you know. You see, sometimes people

983
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: leave a major media organization because they think, oh, I

984
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: have this audience, I can go do this out on

985
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: my own for a smaller media organization and make more money.

986
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes there is some value to sticking with the platform

987
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: you have that gave you all that you have. In

988
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: this case, though, I don't see the NC DOUBLEA as

989
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: a huge value add not in twenty twenty.

990
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: Wow, so you're just going to give up on the

991
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: whole damn thing. Yeah yeah, wow.

992
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: No loyalty, No loyal to success. TI always have been.

993
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 2: You're loyal to the shield. Okay, let me ask you now,

994
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: if we could put on our real world hats here

995
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: for a second. Okay, how do you feel in general

996
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: about a situation where let's say we decide we're going

997
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: to decouple schools from minor league pro football, which is

998
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: basically what it is, and maybe we assume more of

999
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: a model like we've got abroad when it comes to

1000
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: soccer their corector, the academy model. Yeah, yeah, more of

1001
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 2: the academy model. Sure. How do you feel about that

1002
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: in some alternate reality here yet, where you would be

1003
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: in charge of that transformation? Is that something you can

1004
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: get behind, something you think would work.

1005
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm never in favor of turning sixteen or seventeen year

1006
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: olds into pure professionals. I think it's interesting, but I

1007
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: think you still need a plan to keep them as

1008
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: teenagers and young men in their early twenties, and you know,

1009
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: have a school element. Have that, you know, I talked

1010
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: about the PAC twelve plan. Have an experiential element. If

1011
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: you're saying you are a five star tight end and

1012
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: that's all you are to us, I don't know if

1013
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with that for a sixteen or seventeen year old.

1014
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm not there. I understand the success, and I understand

1015
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: the single mindedness, and I understand the intellectual honesty of

1016
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: the academy programs for soccer, the club programs, But I

1017
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I still think you need to figure out

1018
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: how to make a seventeen year old the best possible

1019
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: eighteen year old.

1020
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think I'm talking of it more from

1021
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: the standpoint of the ages don't change, but instead of

1022
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: college football being so tightly aligned with colleges.

1023
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

1024
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's a little bit of an older age bracket.

1025
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: You're not talking about sixteen seventeen year olds. But at

1026
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: the same time, it does decouple it from the academia,

1027
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: which I think has long been the weird part of

1028
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: college football.

1029
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: It is definitely weird and is definitely in its own

1030
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: way outdated. The thing I would say to that is,

1031
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of well not a lot of,

1032
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: but a good percentage of the allure of the sport

1033
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: is the identification that the tribal mentality. You went to

1034
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: Kansas State, so there is something connecting you to call

1035
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: and Kline, even though there definitely isn't. Right. You went

1036
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, so you are connected to Lawrence Morony. You're not,

1037
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: but you kind of are. You're eating at the same

1038
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: food mess halls whatever you're well, I guess not anymore.

1039
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: But you are you walking along the same quad, You're

1040
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: experiencing the same Minnesota winters. There is that element, you know,

1041
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: you sang the same fight song. There is something emotional

1042
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: about college football which I think separates it from other

1043
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: sports because if you're a Steeler fan, odds are you

1044
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: either from Pittsburgh or you're related to somebody from Pittsburgh.

1045
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: And I just sort of happenstance.

1046
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if some enterprising businessman, maybe someone such as yourself,

1047
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: should ever to sid that, you know what, We're going

1048
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: to start up a ten team amateur league. The guys

1049
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: will get paid, they can do it right out of

1050
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: high school. What would that do? Would that be any

1051
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: kind of existential threat to college football? That model? I

1052
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: don't know.

1053
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Well, Ty, you're the dangin master. You should have written

1054
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: that question out for me so I could have thought

1055
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: about it before we played this RPG.

1056
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: Let's go to our next question. Dan.

1057
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you're a transformational leader.

1058
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: Let's face it, that's true. I am, But dog, you

1059
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: got to you gotta keep your options open, all right.

1060
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: Smart business people they know when to get out as

1061
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: much as they know when to get in. So let's

1062
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: take it a different direction here. Oh, you are cashing out.

1063
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: You are letting Oliver Luck deal with those yahoos. Instead,

1064
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: You're going to get your college football fix by investing

1065
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: your billions in the so called lower tier of college football.

1066
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: I like it. Let's do it. You know the misfits

1067
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: that Bob be in, those buffoons, those guys that they're

1068
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: leaving for dead. You want to build a rival football product,

1069
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: something that you think can go head to head on

1070
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: Saturdays and win. You don't have the star power of

1071
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: the elite programs or the brand recognition, but you do

1072
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: have football players m hm, and you do have your

1073
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: just innate sense of innovation when it comes to the

1074
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: football product. What are you doing? How do you do it? Okay?

1075
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Question for your question. Are we in the universe where

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Speaker 1: I have brought all of FBS football to Vancouver?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Or are we okay? We are Okay, we're living

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Speaker 2: in that galaxy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're living in that galaxy. I love it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I am. I budgeted one hundred and thirty teams

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Speaker 1: to Vancouver and support staff, essential support staff, trainers, curricule

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Speaker 1: in effort and of course the literal pods filled with

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Speaker 1: the boosters circling the field. So we're all on the

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Speaker 1: same page. We're all in British Columbia, we're all enjoying

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Speaker 1: an extremely mild summer. It's fantastic up there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, to be fair, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: all these things happen while you're in Vancouver. This could

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Speaker 2: be after the pandemic has quelled and you can go back.

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Speaker 2: Sure your caps is. Maybe you decide you want to

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Speaker 2: keep it in Vancouver. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: My specific idea requires either Vancouver or a normal universe.

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Speaker 1: So if you're insisting on one of the on the

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Speaker 1: Vancouver thing, that's okay, Okay. What I'm doing continue is

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Speaker 1: I am starting the G five season August one. I

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Speaker 1: am going to own the market baseball, basketball, hockey, golf, tennis, soccer.

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Speaker 1: I don't think soccer has started, and maybe soccer starts

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Speaker 1: a week before the season whatever, but starting August first,

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Speaker 1: pre Premier League. Nobody cares about baseball in August, right,

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Speaker 1: and largely for.

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Speaker 2: The most part, fan bases that.

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Speaker 1: Care basketball in a somewhat normal year is not playing.

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Speaker 1: But I understand in this scenario, perhaps they're playing but

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Speaker 1: even still, there's no football period on August one. It's

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Speaker 1: NFL training camp, it's teams in fall camp. Whatever. I

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Speaker 1: am starting the season August one, I'm starting training camp

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Speaker 1: for G five schools even earlier, so like today, and

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Speaker 1: they those teams. So we're going to have Boise State,

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Speaker 1: Utah State, We're going to have Western Michigan against Ohio.

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Speaker 1: They're going to play in primetime every night of the week.

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Speaker 1: They're going to play a season. They're going to play

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Speaker 1: a season with more bye weeks once September hits, because

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Speaker 1: obviously they've started August first, they're not playing an extended season.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have more bye weeks, better for health,

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Speaker 1: better for recovering from a potential infection, whatever. They're going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy ESPN and Fox sending their best broadcast crews

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Speaker 1: to call these G five games. They're going to enjoy

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Speaker 1: increased attention, they're going to enjoy increased scrutiny, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to be the objects of takes on national platforms

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Speaker 1: starved for content and discussion topics. In August, it's the

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Speaker 1: only football game in town. People are going to be gambling.

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Speaker 1: People are going to start picking new you know, Sun

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Speaker 1: Belt teams, AAC teams and added wrinkle tie when we

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Speaker 1: have I don't know, USC playing Fresno State, when we

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Speaker 1: have Florida State playing app State, whatever, those teams are

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Speaker 1: a mid season form, right, we get full on really

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Speaker 1: interesting games if there's a non conference portion of the

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Speaker 1: schedule for the Power fives.

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Speaker 2: So they get a running start. Yeah, you're catching USC

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Speaker 2: when USC is still trying to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 2: what's going to be their offense and defense. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And we're getting more attention on potential stars at these places,

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Speaker 1: so their name, image, likeness, possibilities, their cameo rates are

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Speaker 1: going up.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's going at least to fifty bucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, So I'm giving the G five

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Speaker 1: a preseason spotlight. You think about the further around It

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Speaker 1: was like a week, but the further around, the Korean

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Speaker 1: Baseball League, you think about the fervor that's been around,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Bundesliga before every other soccer league started.

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Speaker 1: The G five enjoys that for twenty eight twenty nine

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Speaker 1: days before the Power five season begins. I think that's

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Speaker 1: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad. I'm a little disappointed, though, I'm underwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: By this what I'm underwhelmed. I thought maybe you would

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Speaker 2: make wholesale rule changes. I thought maybe maybe you would

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Speaker 2: institute some sort of policy whereby it's easier for players

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Speaker 2: to get paid. You know, you can kind of fashion this.

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Speaker 2: You can invest your billions into whatever you want, and

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Speaker 2: maybe you can lure the talent away from that top

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Speaker 2: tier into your tier and just make the overall football

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Speaker 2: product better. I think this is shortsighted by you, You mister.

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Speaker 1: To go away from the entirety and theme of this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm going away from gimmicks ty, I'm letting the core

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Speaker 1: products sell itself. Football is great as is. And the

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Speaker 1: ability to watch Eastern Washington on a Thursday night in

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Speaker 1: early August, the ability to watch North Texas or Houston

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Speaker 1: or Notre Dame, any non Power five school play with

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Speaker 1: his attention in August is I think it's a big win.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right, Yeah, I'd be very curious to get

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Speaker 2: thoughts from the community out there. We have a lot

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Speaker 2: of group of five fans who listen to the show, and.

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Speaker 1: What's on what are they competing against on TV? In August?

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Speaker 1: America's Got Talents has got a talent singer whatever's on Netflix. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean specifically TV. Obviously we're always gonna have Netflix

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Speaker 1: and Hulu and whatever YouTube to compete with. Not quibi no,

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Speaker 1: not quit me, good sir, But I think in terms

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Speaker 1: of television options, it's a huge win.

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Speaker 2: All right, final question, I'm ready. You have been successful

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Speaker 2: yet again. He's spell terrific.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You still got that eye on political office. But you

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Speaker 2: don't really want to put Jody with an eye or

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Speaker 2: the solid baby through that pressure.

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Speaker 1: Toddler.

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Speaker 2: H So you're considering all your options here one night

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Speaker 2: at a cocktail party. You know you run in some

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Speaker 2: exclusive circles nowadays, I absolutely do. You're introduced to Bill Gates,

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Speaker 2: Billy G. Billy G Willie G. You're on a first

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Speaker 2: name basis with him. He has a crazy idea. He

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Speaker 2: wants to team up with you. Let me cut the

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Speaker 2: music here. This is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Why he wants to team up with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to buy and rebuild the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: In his image.

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Speaker 2: He wants to start with the toilets, which I don't

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if you've seen the stuff

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Speaker 2: on Bill Gates. He's really big into toilets.

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Speaker 1: These spend forty thou dos on a toilet that steams

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Speaker 1: your poop and creates water out of it.

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Speaker 2: He's I'm really big ato toilets. He wants to use

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Speaker 2: stadiums or stadia as kind of his testing ground for

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Speaker 2: the newest models. That might be the main reason he

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Speaker 2: wants the NFL. Let's not kidders, right, but he wants

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Speaker 2: your know how. He wants to partner with you. He

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Speaker 2: wants to figure out a way to put the fun

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Speaker 2: back in the no fun league. So, now you've moved

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Speaker 2: up a level, so to speak. You've accomplished all you

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Speaker 2: can at the collegiate level. You've teamed up with while

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Speaker 2: Bill Gates and they're gonna be running the NFL. What's

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Speaker 2: your plan here?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? So?

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Speaker 1: What is what do you think the main complaint is?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to lead you anywhere, but in

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Speaker 1: terms of why the NFL is no fun? What do

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Speaker 1: you think the main complaint is of people who like

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Speaker 1: football but can't get into the NFL product.

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Speaker 2: Well, I I am probably by as a college football fan,

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Speaker 2: but there is definitely a soulless in corporate feel to it.

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Speaker 2: Sure as opposed to Let's say, like the NBA, which

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Speaker 2: I think goes to far greater lengths to highlight its

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Speaker 2: top personalities and star power, the NFL tries to tries

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Speaker 2: to be very corporate in formulaic and the way that

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Speaker 2: it approaches that situation, and guys aren't necessarily encouraged to

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Speaker 2: express themselves in the same manner.

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Speaker 1: There's less humanity, I would think, would be the argument. Sure,

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Speaker 1: and there are, as you mentioned, there are zero Greek

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Speaker 1: freaks in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: So this is what I would do. I would take

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Speaker 1: charge of that toilet comment you made, no.

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Speaker 2: Toilets loves he loves the toilets.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's a big deal. We laugh. But

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Speaker 1: a well functioning plumbing system is, and access to water

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Speaker 1: is an enormous deal in developing it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not trying to make light of that, and

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Speaker 2: you're making light.

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Speaker 1: I get it, all right. So what I'm doing is

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Speaker 1: I am taking over in game betting and fantasy. I'm

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Speaker 1: lobbying hard for states who haven't legalized sports betting to

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Speaker 1: implement it, doing my very best, and I'm using those

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Speaker 1: proceeds with the the Bill Gates inspiration, I'm using those

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Speaker 1: proceeds and putting them towards long term player health insurance,

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Speaker 1: and so it's more human. You're looking at your places.

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Speaker 1: You're like, let's take care of them in a better,

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Speaker 1: more responsible way. And I'm setting up programs in NFL

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Speaker 1: cities that with that, with all these proceeds that support

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Speaker 1: essential systems, education, drug rehab, children's nutrition, physical fitness. I'm

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Speaker 1: using the NFL and I'm not I'm not necessarily broadcasting

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Speaker 1: in the way that the NFL does and that sort

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Speaker 1: of look at me way, the NFL cares way. Just

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Speaker 1: do it. People will know, people will find out. There's

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Speaker 1: something very showy about the NFL and the way it's

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Speaker 1: corporate image comes across where you're just like, ah, it

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Speaker 1: feels like there's something kind of evil behind everything you're doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying do it. I'm just saying, spend time

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Speaker 1: in the communities, give back to the communities in a

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Speaker 1: way that's actually meaningful, and spend less time thanking visa,

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Speaker 1: thanking PEPSI, all those types of things. Football wise, Ty,

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Speaker 1: I'm instituting the fourth and fifteen rule.

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Speaker 2: What this rule is, I think so continue.

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Speaker 1: Place in place of on side kicks. The team that's

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Speaker 1: trailing and desperate at the end of the game gets

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Speaker 1: I forget people have different ideas behind it, but you

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Speaker 1: get a fourth and fifteen with like ninety seconds left

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Speaker 1: in a timeout from your own twenty. I'm instituting that

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Speaker 1: rule to give us more or exciting games. Because even

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a team, even if you're not

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Speaker 1: super keen on the NFL, if somebody tells you there's

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Speaker 1: a close football game, odds are it's scratching something that itches.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going with the fourth and fifteen rule to

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Speaker 1: have a crazy amount of nailbiters at the end of

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Speaker 1: games that will swing bets, swing marriages. Not I'm making

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Speaker 1: things spicy at the end of games as well.

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Speaker 2: I would like to have a viewing experience on Sundays

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Speaker 2: that includes fewer commercials.

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Speaker 1: Sure, what are you putting in place? I mean, so

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Speaker 1: we're talking about less revenue, well maybe maybe the networks,

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Speaker 1: and you're saying you can monetize our sport less. It's

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Speaker 1: not great.

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Speaker 2: I am wondering if there is some way that you,

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Speaker 2: as the new football mind running things here, you and

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Speaker 2: Billy Gates, if you can figure out a way to

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Speaker 2: shift that commercial to in game you know there are

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Speaker 2: natural pauses in football when there's a change.

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Speaker 1: Adds to the corporate complaining.

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Speaker 2: It may add to the corporate complaining, but I think

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Speaker 2: if you're keeping people as part of the broadcast, if

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Speaker 2: you're not leaving that world to momentarily get some sort

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Speaker 2: of ad from Pepsi or whomever, right, I think it

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Speaker 2: feels a little bit more like a native experience. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the state of pro football right now is preposterous with commercials.

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Speaker 2: You know, every change of possession, literally everything there is

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Speaker 2: a commercial that breaks up the action and the experience.

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Speaker 2: The feel of watching a game just feels like it

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Speaker 2: takes forever. It really does. So I would hope that

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Speaker 2: there are creative ways. Maybe it's through your revenue on

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Speaker 2: the gambling side, maybe it's through some sort of Jersey sponsorships,

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Speaker 2: or I don't know, a virtual commercial experience as you're

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Speaker 2: watching the game. I don't know how you do it,

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Speaker 2: but I would love to have an experience on Sundays

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Speaker 2: that did not involve as many commercials. But that's really

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Speaker 2: annoying to watch now. I know college football has its

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Speaker 2: own deal with that, and you might say last college

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Speaker 2: football game, some of them last five hours. You know

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Speaker 2: like you got to do something about that too. I'd

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Speaker 2: be in favor of that as well. But something to

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Speaker 2: maybe tidy up that experience and not make it feel

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Speaker 2: quite as quite as Marketer friendly would be interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: The whole time you were talking about being bummed out

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Speaker 1: about the NFL and this is how brainwashed I am.

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Speaker 1: All I heard was the sad NFL on Fox Music

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Speaker 1: that they play going into commercial when somebody gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite. I love to do that one. Yeah, ah,

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Speaker 1: what a bang.

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Speaker 2: So you're trying to give back to the community. You

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Speaker 2: want folks to know that you do it, but you

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Speaker 2: don't want to be over the top with your NFL cares. Well.

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Speaker 1: You remember when the story came out that the NFL

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Speaker 1: would have these flyovers and the flags and the soldiers

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Speaker 1: reuniting with their families on the field before the games

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Speaker 1: are between quarters, And the story came out that, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's actually the army paying for that. That's marketing. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's recruitment. Yeah, those types of stories, I'm sure rub

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Speaker 1: people the wrong way. Who are supportive of the military,

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Speaker 1: supportive of the NFL. You tapped into their own reasonable

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Speaker 1: human motions. That sucks. That their NFL isn't doing that

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Speaker 1: out of the goodness of their heart. The NFL is

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Speaker 1: doing that to capitalize on a sort of jingoistic fervor.

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Speaker 1: I'm bummed by that, all right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing with Roger Goodell?

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Speaker 3: By the way, I mean, he's supposedly retiring pretty soon, right,

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Speaker 3: I would assume so, I yeah, I think after this

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Speaker 3: next TV deal he's supposedly retiring.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm putting them out to pasture.

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Speaker 1: And that sounds like I'm assassinating. I am just letting

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Speaker 1: him walk away, just letting him walk away. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not making a big deal about what he's done

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Speaker 1: for the sport.

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Speaker 2: Daniel. Yeah, you wake up in a cold sweat. It's

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: been a long flight across the Pacific. A pilot's voice

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: is calm and reassuring, but still a little bit startling

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 2: after your deep slumber. Mm hmmm. On the other side

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Speaker 2: of the plane are men who look surprisingly similar to

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Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio and Joseph Gordon Levitt. They're wearing fake mustaches

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: and beards, but you can still tell it's them. Yeah,

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01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: are you or are you not going to break up

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: your Father's Company little inception reference, Dan.

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I haven't watched Inception in a long time.

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 2: Are you going to do it?

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: Or no?

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: What's your plan?

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: Break up my father's company? Yeah, this whole thing.

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: Was a dream. We're not putting you in charge of

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 2: the NFL. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: I just remember the top spinning at the end, tough

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: that no one knows about the end. They've asked Christopher.

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Speaker 2: Nolan about the end, right, That's all I remember. No

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Speaker 2: one knows what it means.

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Speaker 1: Ellen Page was pretty good. There were so many the

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: stories behind the movie. I know this doesn't answer your question,

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: but there was Supposedly at one point the studio was like,

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: we need a character to explain this in the movie

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: the way. I think that's why Ellen Page was in

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01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: the movie, because she was like, okay, so refresher and

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01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: it still didn't help a ton. So obviously, all these

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Speaker 1: years later, I do not get your reference.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing. The whole thing's dreamed. In the whole

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: I know the whole thing's a dream, but then it's

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: a dream within a dream. I know it was weird.

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Speaker 2: The first time I watched that movie, I had a

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01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: few drinks in me. It was one of my first dates,

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Speaker 2: I believe with solid wife Kate.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure?

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: Are you positive it was with her?

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01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Good? Yeah, And we came out of the movie

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01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: were like, nah, nope, nah, we're good, We're good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the trailer for Tenant?

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Speaker 2: I think he sent this to me. No, no, no,

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 2: that was that was money Plane that you sent me

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Speaker 2: money Plane.

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Speaker 1: That's different. I think we might dedicate an episode to that.

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Speaker 2: That might be all the series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tenant is the new Christopher Nolan with It's Denzel

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01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: Washington's kid who was on Ballers. Is a Malcolm David Washington.

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01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: He was in Black Clansman. It's him. It's the Robert

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 1: Pattinson from the vampire movie Twilight.

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And it's you haven't seen the trailer for this.

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01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: I think I read about it. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I've seen the trailer.

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: It's about like recursion reversion. I forget what the term is,

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: where he can turn time backwards.

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Speaker 2: Not a time travel movie, that's not it's not time travel.

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Speaker 1: It's it's sort of instant. So if he gets shot,

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: he can make the bullet rewind out of him, sort

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: of thing. He can play he can bend time a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, Okay, So I mean I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I'll watch it, but I don't really good when the

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Speaker 1: postponing it, I don't know they keep postponing it.

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Speaker 2: If they do a home release of a really good movie,

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Speaker 2: I am so down with that.

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Speaker 1: Then they do that with trolls World Tour, World Tour,

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Speaker 1: I it looks amazing.

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Speaker 2: All right. Well that was a weird way to close

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01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: it out, but so was inception.

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Speaker 1: Can I tie everything back together? Please subscribe on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: And I suppose we should mention that this episode was

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Speaker 1: If and when it's safe. It's a delightful, delightful city,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to leave a five star review if you

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: like the show going out tapp there too. Five star reviews.

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: They help. Trust me, we're all kind of in this

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01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: long cold winter of an off season and hoping to

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Speaker 2: get college football back. We're gonna keep pumping out the content.

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: But those reviews help, they really do. We'd love to

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Speaker 2: get more of them.

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Speaker 1: Send it to your friends, put it online, do what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: Daniel, I want to thank you for playing along with

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01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: my weird little game. I think we covered a lot

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01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: of ground here. I think, honestly, you may have earned

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: yourself some coin. There may be some folks out there listening,

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01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 2: network types, CE suite level types saying, you know what,

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 2: this guy's got some got he's got some some innovation

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01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: in him.

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't watch a game from a literal glass

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: pod atop a cherry.

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01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, let's do it. Of course, SOLIVERB

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01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com send your offers his way.

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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, for that guy over there, my good

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: friend Dan Rubinstein, sunny southern California. For myself, Ty Hilton

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: ran over here on the East Coast. Thank you so

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: much for listen. Then we'll talk to you in a

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Speaker 2: few days. In the meantime, stay

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Speaker 3: Soft peace, MHM.