WEBVTT - Soulmates 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.480 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Who's ready for 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.360 another episode of nine O two? I know, MG, me me, 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:21.599 pick me, I pick you. Every guys, welcome to our show. 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.520 I like that. Thank you big show. Uh it's me Jenny. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.640 I'm here with Tori and Amy and we are ready 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.559 for another episode. I need to know. I need to 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.400 know if you guys got anything in high school, in 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.400 real high school in your senior poll. Oh right, this 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.720 is senior pool episode. So that's a good question. What 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.480 were you anything? They didn't do it in my high school. 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.200 I went to an old girls school and they somehow 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.160 didn't do it. But my mom likes to remind me 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.160 that when she was in high school and she went 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:04.280 to Beverly that she at the body, best body, best body. Yeah, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.319 they called the body. That was the thing all the time. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.080 And then she's like, and look what you kids did 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.600 to me. And I was like, she's like I know, 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.400 and she goes, I never had a butt before, and 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.880 the doctor was like, that's from Victoria. And I never 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.000 realized that was a thing until after bow. And then 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.520 I'm like, oh, look at big booty Judy coming down 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.559 the line. Here. I am did I know your name 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:33.360 was Victorian Booty, Judy boot That's what he does. He 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.640 slaps me on the button and calls me big booty Judy. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:40.800 Your god given name is Victoria. What's your middle name? Davey, David? 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.160 You listen? Jenny? Are you? Are you Jennifer? Yes? I am. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:51.760 What's your middle name? Eve? Oh? I knew that? Wait? 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:54.520 And did you get what did you get? You didn't 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.720 go to high school? Amy? Wait? Did you have it all? Ever? 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:00.600 To real high school? I dropped out when I was 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:05.920 a sophomore junior. He didn't drop out. I dropped right out, 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:11.239 just disappeared. No, didn't you do schools? Set school? We 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.519 took the g D, and you stopped going. I took 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.080 the g D. I just stopped going and then took 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.320 the g D. Got my diploma. One day they were like, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.880 where is she? Where is she in the on TV? 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.720 Look at me? Now? I remember? I wonder not hard? 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.280 I passed it. It's it's not hard. Let's just say 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.720 I was a bad girl when I was that age, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.640 and I had gone out the night before and I was, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.520 you know, doing things I shouldn't have done at that age, 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:47.799 maybe drinking some things and I had the worst hangover. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.920 I think I was actually still inebriated when I took 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.960 the g D because I remember vividly, uh getting up 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.079 in the middle. Was in classroom and there was full students. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.640 I remember getting up in the middle of it, going 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.560 to the bathroom, throwing up, coming back, finishing the test. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.760 That's called rallying, guys, and I am proud of you, 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.720 thank you. That's probably the one only time I've done that. Rallied. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.320 That is no, I've been with you when you've done 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:27.520 You're right, all right, I rally I rally man. So yeah, 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:29.720 what did you get, Amy? What what was your type? 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:37.000 Did you yeah? Wait, wait, wait, you want to take 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.920 a guess, Jen, you want to go first. Well, I 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.960 don't think it was the laugh that's so nice. I 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.920 don't think it was best whispers, most likely to interrupt. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.360 They get so mad and I'm going to work on that. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.920 Oh best hair, that's so nice. Now you get most 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:03.040 likely to six seed what they were, And just just 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:07.000 like that, you two are two pies in a pod. Actually, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:11.040 you know, did you get another one? I think I got. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.560 I don't know what I wunnderstand. What do you think 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.880 you would have gotten and we got titles in high school. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:21.560 Oh my gosh, I don't know. Um, I don't even 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.320 know what the titles were. To be honest, quietest, biggest flirt. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.880 That that's what Tory would get in high school. You 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.800 don't think you're well, excuse me? Are you? Are you 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:40.680 mixing me up with Donna? You are Donna? I might 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.800 have gotten biggest flirt at flirty. That's a good that's 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.800 a good one. That's a good one. Do they have that? 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:51.200 Is that a thing? I just don't know the terms anything, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.680 like they is still a thing they do this with 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.719 your kids. It's upsetting, Like if this is a thing 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.240 on the way, you know what we had that they 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.800 definitely do not have anymore in high school. At my 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.480 high school, we had a rally and it was called 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.839 a kissing rally and you could write a letter. So 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.320 you were like, like, I got a friend in Her 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.320 name is Jenny. She's really cool, she looks like a penny. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.160 I think she should come down and kiss Bob. He's 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:29.040 on the football team and he's a slob. Yeah. And 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.440 then and then two people had to come down to 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:39.520 the center and kiss Oh my gosh, well that that 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.320 just that screams COVID. Wow, how was that a school 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:48.680 that was supported pepper rally? But it was and everyone 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.080 loved it. Yeah, but they also like put terms on 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.799 people that were like made other people feel ashamed about 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.680 that they didn't get like it was awful. Like when 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.599 Kelly and Brenda were standing there and they're saying, who's 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.640 pretty prettiest? I was like, please don't pick Kelly, Please 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:11.680 don't pick Kelly. That's so funny. I wonder if you 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.960 didn't like it because you didn't go to high school. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.040 But I'm like, oh, this is just totally normal. Like 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.960 we best eyes, best hair, best smile, biggest flirt. It 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.440 made me feel like it best couple. But if you 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.400 got nothing, what happened to nothing? There's like twenty things, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.800 and like my class had like two people in it. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.280 I just I thought the award was embarrassing. Yeah, I 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.640 was right with you, even though I was presenting it 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.880 to you. So I just was like, this is great. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.640 I was like totally in the whole episode. I'm like, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:55.760 this is just great. Well, we're talking about episode Senior 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:02.599 Pole aired ape y'all Synopsis, Brenda reconsiders her college choice 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.600 most Beautiful Senior Kelly fears no one's looking beneath her surface. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.240 Steve forgets he's dateless when he shines at one of 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.800 l A's hippus venues. Directed by Chris Hibler and written 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:19.640 by Chip Joe Hanson. Where we Where do we even begin? 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.440 I think we begin with Steve, because I mean, obviously 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.800 the Kelly stuff always want to jump to Steve every time, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.400 and my Ron, thank you for backing me up there, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.240 I thought, I don't. Yeah, it's okay, we can start 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.000 with I mean I would have started with the opening 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.440 sea of the episode, but sure, let's jump brand to Steve. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.040 That was the real forum, Okay, is the real venue 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.840 where the lads played back then? That part was so 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.800 cool because it was an actual game. It was so crazy. 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.520 I couldn't tell if it was if they Does anybody 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.600 remember did he do that at a game? Can we should? 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.200 I tell? I? Had it had to have been at 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:06.680 Should I text him? Oh? My god? They met someone 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.440 on the team. So I don't know any Lakers, but 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.800 I was hoping they. First of all, Diane Canon, which 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.080 about why did they keep cutting to her? But she 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.040 had like four close ups because she literally like back 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.280 then she used to go to every Laker game, like 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:29.960 she was always on camera the Lakers game. But you guys, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.280 that's Jennifer Grants mom. So she probably was like, yeah, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.960 of course I'm gonna let nine O two one oh 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:42.480 film me because yeah, I was pretty I was like, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.560 this is so cool. It was a real game, and 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.319 I felt like they they used the parts of the 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.520 real game, so they had like the whole stadium fully 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.640 for for certain things, and then there were certain parts 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.600 of its segments that they were able to do without 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.000 the full crowd. It felt like they were you know, 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.160 like production wise, they kind of planned it out like that, 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.240 but it really did look real. And I was so 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.760 excited when the Walsh cutaways looked like they did that 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.240 a different day. Yeah, what about when they went back 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.120 to have their little hideaway, their little conversation in the 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.040 back ay? How did they get backstage at the Forum 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.240 and there was not a soul in there? Like that 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.480 was just the way completely empty. You know. The director 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.480 Chris Hibbler was probably like, this is like a man's dream, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.440 like not so direct, but to be able to be 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.959 lying like this game and be directing and that's your job. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:38.120 And clearly Iron was at the game. Yeah, run around. 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.160 It reminds it was like when we went to the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.720 Rolling Stones concert. I know we'll get to it, but 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.160 they filmed there and we got to actually be there, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.640 and this is like a live Lakers game and all 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.800 of us, Wait, were you there? I think you were 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:53.480 next to me. I think you were there. We went 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:58.520 to a Rolling Stone concert. Oh it was pretty I 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.120 don't think I was there. You. I feel like she 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.560 would have to remember if she went to a she 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:10.520 wasn't there. I remember being at Dave cause I'm quite 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:18.600 the same same thing Dave cause is still around. Yeah. Wait, okay, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.760 so a few questions. Did anyone think though when they 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.600 did that? Okay, so they do the zoom in on 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.040 Steve right, then they do the long one where it's 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.760 further back. It didn't look like Iron to me. It 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.720 was like, was that weird? Yeah? No, that was him. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.000 It was for who else is they going to get 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.600 to stand there and look like, all right, I don't 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.440 know what that part did not look like him. Maybe 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.280 I'll go back and look. You wouldn't know you catch 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.480 things like that. I know, right sure, they used like 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.720 a stand up. I don't know that's what I thought 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.360 it looked like a body double when they did the 0:10:54.520 --> 0:11:00.640 what would you call that a wide shot? Wide shot? Yeah? Sure? 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:02.960 But were you guys if you guys were bummed you 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.200 didn't get to go? I probably wasn't at the time, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:13.119 if we probably weren't. The traffic to the Forum is terrible, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.199 but it looks so cool. They don't use that forum anymore, right, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.640 well now it's not for the Lakers, but they have 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.079 concerts there. It does exist. The exact same building looks 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.480 the same, but it's just not the Lakers. It's so 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:30.440 iconic that building. And Chick her and so so he died, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.840 I think, but Chick Heern was the voice of the Lakers. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.559 He was on the show. And then now by if 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.800 you ever go to Staples Center, I think it's called 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:46.680 something else. Now it's called Crypto. There's so many bird names. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.320 Now it's called what now crypto? I don't like that 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.800 at all. It's terrible. And there's Chicker and court they 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.480 named the street after him. On the street. Yes, I've 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.679 gotten stuck on that street so many times in traffic. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.000 I was looking for Paula Abdul. I was like, where's Paula? Good? 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.480 What about when um uh Okay, So when they're at 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.600 the school and then they're talking about going to the 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.800 to them when they're Ian and Jason are doing that 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.280 walk and talk down the hall, I mean Steven Brandon, um, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.000 and uh, they're they're talking. First of all. First of all, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.720 they're talking about like first Brenda and Brandon are talking 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.080 about the senior pole, and she kind of gets him 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.000 to confess that he voted for himself for something. Yeah, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:48.280 most like Succeedeah. Did you see when Brandon kind of 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.240 I mean Jayson, I don't know what to say, Brandon 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:55.839 slash Jason. Uh, he broke care number one? Remember when 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.800 number one? Uh started laughing. No, I didn't see this 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.520 what happened. It was so cute because they were walking 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.720 and talking and um, Steve's line was something of it's 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.000 supposed to be a red letter day, and it really 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.719 really sounded like he he said accidentally a red leather day. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.560 And us laughing at it. It just makes and I 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.920 could see him trying to pull it together, and somehow 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.880 Iron kept going because it's all in one shot. Iron 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.360 kept going, and Jason was like all right, and he 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.000 got back into it and stopped laughing. But I was 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.920 like I've been in that position so many times, right 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.520 where you like, I'm gonna lose it, They're gonna laugh, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.080 I'm gonna laugh. Oh my god, I have that. That's 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:44.160 such a good catch. It's cute. But then Steve says, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.560 make sure to bring a condom. Feeling lucky tonight. That 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:54.440 was safe, that's true. True. I'm sure they worked it 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.640 in because they probably wanted to promote condom use at 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.199 the time, but like it was still brody. There was 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.840 another condom moment in this episode. I think I was 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.319 a little confused when Kelly and Dylan are whooping it 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.960 up in his house and then she goes back to 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:13.880 her person. What I saw that I couldn't figure out 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.560 because it was you, like, were you getting him a 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.280 condom or were you going to Like I didn't get it. 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.440 It was a little misleading because like, I'm not sure 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.080 what you she said. Did she say something like better 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.000 safe than sorry? Yes, it was definitely a suggestion that 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.920 they were going to have sex, but they're very safe 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:36.000 about it. Okay, But why did she have to go 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.560 back to her person get it? Doesn't he just didn't 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:45.760 have it at this point. Maybe that was the easiest 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.280 way to acknowledge it. But I was trying to think, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.320 like what could could you just pull it out of 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.760 a drawer that is really weird, not like a boyfriend 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:59.040 girlfriend situation. That's like a you're a girl and you're 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.920 on a date and the it might happen. So he 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:07.160 put it out. Yeah, Like I think of as like 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.840 the director wanted to see that last like a last 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:15.160 moment on Kelly of being kind of like feeling not 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.000 great about it or something. I don't know, but it 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:22.960 just didn't really work for me. Obviously, they nine O 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.640 two one oh wants to make sure every moment they 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:31.120 can that they are acknowledging these people have safe sex. Yeah, 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.160 it was in the nineties, you know. That was when 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.760 it was all about safe sex and found them awareness 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.480 and passing out condoms and schools was the first thing happening. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.760 So there's a lot of talk of sex. Like my 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.320 high school experience was. I mean, I didn't have sex 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.000 in high school, I'm not afraid to say, but no 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.240 one cares. But anyway, so the people that we're having 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.600 sex never talked about it, probably to anyone but each other. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.160 Like it was not I don't think two dudes would 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.080 have ever walked down the high school that hallway in 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.120 my high school and been like, let's get some ladies 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.200 to night. Let's bring some condoms because I'm gonna get lucky. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.440 Like no, and like, nobody in high school is having 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.360 sex on a one night stand. I mean in my 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.320 high school. But I like that was for the girls 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:20.000 that were like way together. Agreed. Yeah, I don't remember. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:23.120 I don't know what it's I mean, having a daughter 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:29.000 in high school now, I'm like, oh god, I don't 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.600 want to watch. And sex was a big issue for 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:37.880 Dylan and Kelly in this episode, Yes, it was. I 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:42.440 mean she's really feeling like he only likes her for 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.720 her body and for the thing she does on the mattress, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.560 which I never get that vibe from him at all. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.800 H Yeah, but she's not feeling great right now. He's 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:01.000 like a little I think he's a little are sexualized 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.240 with Kelly than he felt like he was with Brenda. Definitely, 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:09.200 I'm wrong, right, That's definite. It just felt like, Yeah, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.680 they're always fighting. In the beginning, in the first half 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:15.520 of the episode, I was like, oh my god, these 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:20.400 two are doomed. They they're always fighting. Yeah, I mean 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.000 this let's dig into the Kelly stuff then. All right. So, 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.879 so I was wrong last week because I thought the 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.440 Eating Disorder story was ending. I do now think it's ending. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.320 But what did you think of that opening where you're 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.399 a group therapy. I just really appreciated the giant eating 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:42.439 disorder sign outside the door, like they opened on it. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.359 I was like, Wow, okay, just announced it to the world. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.159 They wouldn't have a giant sign that says eating disorder. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.960 The girl telling her story, she was really good, very offense. Yeah, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:18:00.240 I liked her. Yeah, I remember that they got though. 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.159 There were a few girls in that circle that were 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.800 actually patients of a certain place, and they agreed to 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:13.840 be a part of it. I remember, wow like that. Yeah, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:20.960 it was heavy. It is heavy. This episode was primarily 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:27.000 very heavy with with for Kelly. I felt like they 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.560 were really I don't know if this was a decision 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:33.360 or not, but it felt like they were really redeeming Kelly, 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:41.240 like trying to redeemed Kelly because so many people hated 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.399 her for stealing Dylan and that was so polarizing, you know, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.200 And I, for one, like I was on the knot. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.720 I wasn't a big fan of Kelly. But this episode 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.679 kind of made me feel for her again, which I 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:59.080 think was their intention. And you know, it's interesting, so 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:06.320 you're talking about you're talking about fans viewers because oh wow, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.120 So do you think that that actually could have impacted storyline? 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:14.960 I don't know. I mean, I don't know how they 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.880 got feedback from the audience or I don't know how 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.840 they because there was no social media. There was no 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.920 way for the audience to like say what they thought 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.879 right away. People write letters back then, but maybe internally too, 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:33.520 they just figured we had to go this direction, so 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.960 we need to at the end. Yeah, the second half 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.200 of the episode, she really started to be redeemed, and 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:47.160 you really did feel the connection between Kelly and Dylan. 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:53.000 And this is the episode where he says, soulmate, we'll 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:57.240 get to that. That seems really powerful. Okay, so it 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.600 is very easy to persuade. Kelly's got her wrapped around 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.600 her finger. It's obvious. But she's so cute the way 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:10.760 that she's getting out of a little showered. So one 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:16.399 thing is Jackie is almost more prominent than Jim and 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:20.959 Cindy in the last few episodes. Really, Jackie is a 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:25.840 major character right now. Yeah, I don't know, It's it's 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.000 just me. I just always love when Jackie's on the 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.399 screen because she just I don't know, I just like 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:35.359 watching her working with her so and so vibrant, like 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.800 every time she enters. She just like, what have I 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:43.240 seen for a woman who was a little older to 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.560 be very no makeup getting out of the shower? That 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.720 cotton ball got a lot of work. I mean, she's 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:55.600 but that was like a very unique scene. I thought, gosh, 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.720 and I was wondering too, like while I was watching it, 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.959 like why why they have her get Why would they 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:03.480 have her in the shower? Why they have her get 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.720 out of the shower? I mean, and then I thought, well, 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.840 you know what, it makes it really feel very authentic 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.399 and real, and I liked the way it was it felt, 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:13.560 but it just I was at first, I was like, 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.840 why is she in the shower? It was such an 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.240 interesting choice, but it was like so real. A mom 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.520 and daughter definitely talk in the bathroom like that, and 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:27.200 people take showers apparently with blue. A lot of blue 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.520 blue in that bathroom, A lot of blue towels. Maybe 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:31.720 have something to do with Kelly being voted most Pretty 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.119 and how Kelly feels about herself and it's all about 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:40.000 her physically, her appearance. And then there's Jackie, you know, 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.720 just a real moment. Maybe do you think a mom 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.800 would have let their daughter out of the group that easily? 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:52.760 I wouldn't. I mean, I yeah, I'm a little bit 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:56.960 too much like Jackie. I'm very easy to persuade when 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.920 it comes to my kids. So but not after one time? 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:03.640 You wouldn't, right, No, I would. I would be like 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.160 it wasn't bad, was it? You know, like, oh, yeah, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:08.280 you don't want to go, okay, let me talk to 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.640 your dad. Fine. I guess I would too. I don't know. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:17.320 I I would try, like twice at least. Yeah, maybe 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.480 that's a good idea, like just try one more time. 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:25.760 In this episode, we do see and the landed normal 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:29.840 like it. It played authentically to me the impact that 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:35.440 Jackie had on Kelly and maybe the damage that Jackie 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:41.080 was doing, because I did think, oh, this is weird 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.280 that she said, oh you have no eyelashes and very 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:46.840 pale skin, and like we hadn't really seen that before, 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.439 but I do. I could see a mom that's a 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:53.400 model really messing up their kidal intentionally. Yeah, she didn't 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.439 want to you have to be a mom that's a 0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:00.000 model to mess up your kid. Yeah, it's really see 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.920 it happens from every most moms out there. I'm sure 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:04.840 in some way we'll mess up our kids and not 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.240 even think we're doing it. Yeah, say something little and 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.679 not really notice it or see the impact that it 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.880 has on them. So hard. What do you guys think 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:24.240 of Jackie and Kelly like that dynamic? I love them together. 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:28.040 I feel like I just felt really bad for Kelly, 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.159 especially during all that part where she was trying to 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:37.600 get ready and she was feeling so insecure and self conscious. Um, 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.240 I felt, you know, it's so hard to love yourself 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.160 at all anyway, It's really hard. That concept of loving 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:49.440 yourself the way you are is really hard for some people. Um. 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.040 And I think that it's really a lot harder for 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:57.600 people who are put in that category of being pretty 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:02.960 or being being something or someone that people look at. 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.919 It's it just feels a lot different when the focus 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:11.600 is all on your appearance. It's hard for you to 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.840 not focus on your appearance and that the importance of it. 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:20.760 And I could relate with Kelly and I've felt like 0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:25.359 that before, Like it's not a good feeling and it 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.560 and it doesn't make it. People can tell you, oh 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.280 you're so pretty or your whatever this that it doesn't 0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:39.040 make it any easier for you to love yourself. So true. Yeah, 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.600 she was really struggling with that. I often feel like 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.399 Kelly's the mom and Jackie's the daughter. I feel like 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.879 it's kind of mixed up. I like their relationship. I 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.480 love you guys together, like it's magic on screen, you 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.000 guys working together, but it's I always want like I 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.720 wish Kelly would just have could do like a kid 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.160 swap parents swap, be with have Cindy for a while. 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.240 She would love that, right. It would have probably done 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:11.080 a lot to heal some wounds that she's had just from. 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.960 And I felt for Jackie too, because she was really 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:20.320 looking inside too in this episode and acknowledging the impact 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:24.439 that she had on her you know, daughter, and and 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.080 all the mistakes that she must have made along the way. 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.600 Like I felt my heart broke for her a little 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:46.680 bit too. H It's interesting to compare in this specific 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.159 episode Jackie and Kelly and then Jim and Cindy and 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.280 Brenda who are also having I guess you could call 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.719 a bit of a conflict, but it's so the Walsh 0:25:55.800 --> 0:26:00.440 conflict is so like it's like nothing, know what I mean, 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:03.000