1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Who's ready for 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: another episode of nine O two? I know, MG, me me, 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: pick me, I pick you. Every guys, welcome to our show. 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I like that. Thank you big show. Uh it's me Jenny. 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm here with Tori and Amy and we are ready 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: for another episode. I need to know. I need to 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: know if you guys got anything in high school, in 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: real high school in your senior poll. Oh right, this 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: is senior pool episode. So that's a good question. What 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: were you anything? They didn't do it in my high school. 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I went to an old girls school and they somehow 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't do it. But my mom likes to remind me 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: that when she was in high school and she went 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: to Beverly that she at the body, best body, best body. Yeah, 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: they called the body. That was the thing all the time. 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: And then she's like, and look what you kids did 17 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: to me. And I was like, she's like I know, 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: and she goes, I never had a butt before, and 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the doctor was like, that's from Victoria. And I never 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: realized that was a thing until after bow. And then 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, look at big booty Judy coming down 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: the line. Here. I am did I know your name 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: was Victorian Booty, Judy boot That's what he does. He 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: slaps me on the button and calls me big booty Judy. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Your god given name is Victoria. What's your middle name? Davey, David? 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: You listen? Jenny? Are you? Are you Jennifer? Yes? I am. 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: What's your middle name? Eve? Oh? I knew that? Wait? 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: And did you get what did you get? You didn't 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: go to high school? Amy? Wait? Did you have it all? Ever? 30 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: To real high school? I dropped out when I was 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: a sophomore junior. He didn't drop out. I dropped right out, 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: just disappeared. No, didn't you do schools? Set school? We 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: took the g D, and you stopped going. I took 34 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: the g D. I just stopped going and then took 35 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: the g D. Got my diploma. One day they were like, 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: where is she? Where is she in the on TV? 37 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: Look at me? Now? I remember? I wonder not hard? 38 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: I passed it. It's it's not hard. Let's just say 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I was a bad girl when I was that age, 40 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: and I had gone out the night before and I was, 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing things I shouldn't have done at that age, 42 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: maybe drinking some things and I had the worst hangover. 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: I think I was actually still inebriated when I took 44 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: the g D because I remember vividly, uh getting up 45 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: in the middle. Was in classroom and there was full students. 46 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I remember getting up in the middle of it, going 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, throwing up, coming back, finishing the test. 48 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: That's called rallying, guys, and I am proud of you, 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: thank you. That's probably the one only time I've done that. Rallied. 50 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: That is no, I've been with you when you've done 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: You're right, all right, I rally I rally man. So yeah, 52 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: what did you get, Amy? What what was your type? 53 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Did you yeah? Wait, wait, wait, you want to take 54 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: a guess, Jen, you want to go first. Well, I 55 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: don't think it was the laugh that's so nice. I 56 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: don't think it was best whispers, most likely to interrupt. 57 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: They get so mad and I'm going to work on that. 58 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh best hair, that's so nice. Now you get most 59 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: likely to six seed what they were, And just just 60 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: like that, you two are two pies in a pod. Actually, 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, did you get another one? I think I got. 62 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what I wunnderstand. What do you think 63 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you would have gotten and we got titles in high school. 64 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't know. Um, I don't even 65 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: know what the titles were. To be honest, quietest, biggest flirt. 66 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: That that's what Tory would get in high school. You 67 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: don't think you're well, excuse me? Are you? Are you 68 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: mixing me up with Donna? You are Donna? I might 69 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: have gotten biggest flirt at flirty. That's a good that's 70 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: a good one. That's a good one. Do they have that? 71 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? I just don't know the terms anything, 72 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: like they is still a thing they do this with 73 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: your kids. It's upsetting, Like if this is a thing 74 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: on the way, you know what we had that they 75 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: definitely do not have anymore in high school. At my 76 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: high school, we had a rally and it was called 77 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: a kissing rally and you could write a letter. So 78 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you were like, like, I got a friend in Her 79 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: name is Jenny. She's really cool, she looks like a penny. 80 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: I think she should come down and kiss Bob. He's 81 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: on the football team and he's a slob. Yeah. And 82 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: then and then two people had to come down to 83 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: the center and kiss Oh my gosh, well that that 84 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: just that screams COVID. Wow, how was that a school 85 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: that was supported pepper rally? But it was and everyone 86 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: loved it. Yeah, but they also like put terms on 87 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,799 Speaker 1: people that were like made other people feel ashamed about 88 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: that they didn't get like it was awful. Like when 89 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: Kelly and Brenda were standing there and they're saying, who's 90 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: pretty prettiest? I was like, please don't pick Kelly, Please 91 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: don't pick Kelly. That's so funny. I wonder if you 92 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: didn't like it because you didn't go to high school. 93 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: But I'm like, oh, this is just totally normal. Like 94 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: we best eyes, best hair, best smile, biggest flirt. It 95 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: made me feel like it best couple. But if you 96 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: got nothing, what happened to nothing? There's like twenty things, 97 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: and like my class had like two people in it. 98 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: I just I thought the award was embarrassing. Yeah, I 99 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: was right with you, even though I was presenting it 100 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: to you. So I just was like, this is great. 101 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: I was like totally in the whole episode. I'm like, 102 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: this is just great. Well, we're talking about episode Senior 103 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: Pole aired ape y'all Synopsis, Brenda reconsiders her college choice 104 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: most Beautiful Senior Kelly fears no one's looking beneath her surface. 105 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Steve forgets he's dateless when he shines at one of 106 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: l A's hippus venues. Directed by Chris Hibler and written 107 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: by Chip Joe Hanson. Where we Where do we even begin? 108 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I think we begin with Steve, because I mean, obviously 109 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: the Kelly stuff always want to jump to Steve every time, 110 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: and my Ron, thank you for backing me up there, 111 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: I thought, I don't. Yeah, it's okay, we can start 112 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: with I mean I would have started with the opening 113 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: sea of the episode, but sure, let's jump brand to Steve. 114 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: That was the real forum, Okay, is the real venue 115 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: where the lads played back then? That part was so 116 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: cool because it was an actual game. It was so crazy. 117 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if it was if they Does anybody 118 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: remember did he do that at a game? Can we should? 119 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: I tell? I? Had it had to have been at 120 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Should I text him? Oh? My god? They met someone 121 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: on the team. So I don't know any Lakers, but 122 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: I was hoping they. First of all, Diane Canon, which 123 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: about why did they keep cutting to her? But she 124 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: had like four close ups because she literally like back 125 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: then she used to go to every Laker game, like 126 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: she was always on camera the Lakers game. But you guys, 127 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: that's Jennifer Grants mom. So she probably was like, yeah, 128 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: of course I'm gonna let nine O two one oh 129 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: film me because yeah, I was pretty I was like, 130 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: this is so cool. It was a real game, and 131 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: I felt like they they used the parts of the 132 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: real game, so they had like the whole stadium fully 133 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: for for certain things, and then there were certain parts 134 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: of its segments that they were able to do without 135 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: the full crowd. It felt like they were you know, 136 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: like production wise, they kind of planned it out like that, 137 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: but it really did look real. And I was so 138 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: excited when the Walsh cutaways looked like they did that 139 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: a different day. Yeah, what about when they went back 140 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to have their little hideaway, their little conversation in the 141 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: back ay? How did they get backstage at the Forum 142 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and there was not a soul in there? Like that 143 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: was just the way completely empty. You know. The director 144 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Chris Hibbler was probably like, this is like a man's dream, 145 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: like not so direct, but to be able to be 146 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: lying like this game and be directing and that's your job. 147 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: And clearly Iron was at the game. Yeah, run around. 148 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: It reminds it was like when we went to the 149 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Rolling Stones concert. I know we'll get to it, but 150 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: they filmed there and we got to actually be there, 151 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: and this is like a live Lakers game and all 152 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: of us, Wait, were you there? I think you were 153 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: next to me. I think you were there. We went 154 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: to a Rolling Stone concert. Oh it was pretty I 155 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: don't think I was there. You. I feel like she 156 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: would have to remember if she went to a she 157 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: wasn't there. I remember being at Dave cause I'm quite 158 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: the same same thing Dave cause is still around. Yeah. Wait, okay, 159 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: so a few questions. Did anyone think though when they 160 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: did that? Okay, so they do the zoom in on 161 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Steve right, then they do the long one where it's 162 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: further back. It didn't look like Iron to me. It 163 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: was like, was that weird? Yeah? No, that was him. 164 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: It was for who else is they going to get 165 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: to stand there and look like, all right, I don't 166 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: know what that part did not look like him. Maybe 167 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll go back and look. You wouldn't know you catch 168 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: things like that. I know, right sure, they used like 169 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: a stand up. I don't know that's what I thought 170 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: it looked like a body double when they did the 171 00:10:54,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: what would you call that a wide shot? Wide shot? Yeah? Sure? 172 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: But were you guys if you guys were bummed you 173 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: didn't get to go? I probably wasn't at the time, 174 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:13,119 Speaker 1: if we probably weren't. The traffic to the Forum is terrible, 175 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: but it looks so cool. They don't use that forum anymore, right, 176 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: well now it's not for the Lakers, but they have 177 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: concerts there. It does exist. The exact same building looks 178 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: the same, but it's just not the Lakers. It's so 179 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: iconic that building. And Chick her and so so he died, 180 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: I think, but Chick Heern was the voice of the Lakers. 181 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: He was on the show. And then now by if 182 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: you ever go to Staples Center, I think it's called 183 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: something else. Now it's called Crypto. There's so many bird names. 184 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: Now it's called what now crypto? I don't like that 185 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: at all. It's terrible. And there's Chicker and court they 186 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: named the street after him. On the street. Yes, I've 187 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: gotten stuck on that street so many times in traffic. 188 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I was looking for Paula Abdul. I was like, where's Paula? Good? 189 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: What about when um uh Okay, So when they're at 190 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: the school and then they're talking about going to the 191 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: to them when they're Ian and Jason are doing that 192 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: walk and talk down the hall, I mean Steven Brandon, um, 193 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: and uh, they're they're talking. First of all. First of all, 194 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: they're talking about like first Brenda and Brandon are talking 195 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: about the senior pole, and she kind of gets him 196 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: to confess that he voted for himself for something. Yeah, 197 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: most like Succeedeah. Did you see when Brandon kind of 198 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean Jayson, I don't know what to say, Brandon 199 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: slash Jason. Uh, he broke care number one? Remember when 200 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: number one? Uh started laughing. No, I didn't see this 201 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: what happened. It was so cute because they were walking 202 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: and talking and um, Steve's line was something of it's 203 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be a red letter day, and it really 204 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 1: really sounded like he he said accidentally a red leather day. 205 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: And us laughing at it. It just makes and I 206 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: could see him trying to pull it together, and somehow 207 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Iron kept going because it's all in one shot. Iron 208 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: kept going, and Jason was like all right, and he 209 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: got back into it and stopped laughing. But I was 210 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: like I've been in that position so many times, right 211 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: where you like, I'm gonna lose it, They're gonna laugh, 212 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna laugh. Oh my god, I have that. That's 213 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: such a good catch. It's cute. But then Steve says, 214 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: make sure to bring a condom. Feeling lucky tonight. That 215 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: was safe, that's true. True. I'm sure they worked it 216 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: in because they probably wanted to promote condom use at 217 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: the time, but like it was still brody. There was 218 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: another condom moment in this episode. I think I was 219 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: a little confused when Kelly and Dylan are whooping it 220 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: up in his house and then she goes back to 221 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: her person. What I saw that I couldn't figure out 222 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: because it was you, like, were you getting him a 223 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: condom or were you going to Like I didn't get it. 224 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: It was a little misleading because like, I'm not sure 225 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: what you she said. Did she say something like better 226 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: safe than sorry? Yes, it was definitely a suggestion that 227 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: they were going to have sex, but they're very safe 228 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: about it. Okay, But why did she have to go 229 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: back to her person get it? Doesn't he just didn't 230 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: have it at this point. Maybe that was the easiest 231 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: way to acknowledge it. But I was trying to think, 232 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: like what could could you just pull it out of 233 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: a drawer that is really weird, not like a boyfriend 234 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: girlfriend situation. That's like a you're a girl and you're 235 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: on a date and the it might happen. So he 236 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: put it out. Yeah, Like I think of as like 237 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: the director wanted to see that last like a last 238 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: moment on Kelly of being kind of like feeling not 239 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: great about it or something. I don't know, but it 240 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: just didn't really work for me. Obviously, they nine O 241 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: two one oh wants to make sure every moment they 242 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: can that they are acknowledging these people have safe sex. Yeah, 243 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: it was in the nineties, you know. That was when 244 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: it was all about safe sex and found them awareness 245 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: and passing out condoms and schools was the first thing happening. 246 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of talk of sex. Like my 247 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: high school experience was. I mean, I didn't have sex 248 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: in high school, I'm not afraid to say, but no 249 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: one cares. But anyway, so the people that we're having 250 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: sex never talked about it, probably to anyone but each other. 251 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Like it was not I don't think two dudes would 252 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: have ever walked down the high school that hallway in 253 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: my high school and been like, let's get some ladies 254 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: to night. Let's bring some condoms because I'm gonna get lucky. 255 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Like no, and like, nobody in high school is having 256 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: sex on a one night stand. I mean in my 257 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: high school. But I like that was for the girls 258 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that were like way together. Agreed. Yeah, I don't remember. 259 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's I mean, having a daughter 260 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: in high school now, I'm like, oh god, I don't 261 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: want to watch. And sex was a big issue for 262 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Dylan and Kelly in this episode, Yes, it was. I 263 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: mean she's really feeling like he only likes her for 264 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: her body and for the thing she does on the mattress, 265 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: which I never get that vibe from him at all. 266 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: H Yeah, but she's not feeling great right now. He's 267 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: like a little I think he's a little are sexualized 268 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: with Kelly than he felt like he was with Brenda. Definitely, 269 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, right, That's definite. It just felt like, Yeah, 270 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: they're always fighting. In the beginning, in the first half 271 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: of the episode, I was like, oh my god, these 272 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: two are doomed. They they're always fighting. Yeah, I mean 273 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: this let's dig into the Kelly stuff then. All right. So, 274 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: so I was wrong last week because I thought the 275 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Eating Disorder story was ending. I do now think it's ending. 276 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: But what did you think of that opening where you're 277 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: a group therapy. I just really appreciated the giant eating 278 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: disorder sign outside the door, like they opened on it. 279 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, okay, just announced it to the world. 280 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have a giant sign that says eating disorder. 281 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: The girl telling her story, she was really good, very offense. Yeah, 282 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I liked her. Yeah, I remember that they got though. 283 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: There were a few girls in that circle that were 284 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: actually patients of a certain place, and they agreed to 285 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: be a part of it. I remember, wow like that. Yeah, 286 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: it was heavy. It is heavy. This episode was primarily 287 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: very heavy with with for Kelly. I felt like they 288 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: were really I don't know if this was a decision 289 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: or not, but it felt like they were really redeeming Kelly, 290 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: like trying to redeemed Kelly because so many people hated 291 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: her for stealing Dylan and that was so polarizing, you know, 292 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: And I, for one, like I was on the knot. 293 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't a big fan of Kelly. But this episode 294 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: kind of made me feel for her again, which I 295 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: think was their intention. And you know, it's interesting, so 296 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about fans viewers because oh wow, 297 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: So do you think that that actually could have impacted storyline? 298 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know how they 299 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: got feedback from the audience or I don't know how 300 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: they because there was no social media. There was no 301 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: way for the audience to like say what they thought 302 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: right away. People write letters back then, but maybe internally too, 303 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: they just figured we had to go this direction, so 304 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: we need to at the end. Yeah, the second half 305 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: of the episode, she really started to be redeemed, and 306 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: you really did feel the connection between Kelly and Dylan. 307 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: And this is the episode where he says, soulmate, we'll 308 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: get to that. That seems really powerful. Okay, so it 309 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: is very easy to persuade. Kelly's got her wrapped around 310 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: her finger. It's obvious. But she's so cute the way 311 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: that she's getting out of a little showered. So one 312 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: thing is Jackie is almost more prominent than Jim and 313 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: Cindy in the last few episodes. Really, Jackie is a 314 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: major character right now. Yeah, I don't know, It's it's 315 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: just me. I just always love when Jackie's on the 316 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: screen because she just I don't know, I just like 317 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: watching her working with her so and so vibrant, like 318 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: every time she enters. She just like, what have I 319 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: seen for a woman who was a little older to 320 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: be very no makeup getting out of the shower? That 321 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: cotton ball got a lot of work. I mean, she's 322 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: but that was like a very unique scene. I thought, gosh, 323 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: and I was wondering too, like while I was watching it, 324 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: like why why they have her get Why would they 325 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: have her in the shower? Why they have her get 326 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: out of the shower? I mean, and then I thought, well, 327 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: you know what, it makes it really feel very authentic 328 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: and real, and I liked the way it was it felt, 329 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: but it just I was at first, I was like, 330 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: why is she in the shower? It was such an 331 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: interesting choice, but it was like so real. A mom 332 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and daughter definitely talk in the bathroom like that, and 333 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: people take showers apparently with blue. A lot of blue 334 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: blue in that bathroom, A lot of blue towels. Maybe 335 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: have something to do with Kelly being voted most Pretty 336 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: and how Kelly feels about herself and it's all about 337 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: her physically, her appearance. And then there's Jackie, you know, 338 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: just a real moment. Maybe do you think a mom 339 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: would have let their daughter out of the group that easily? 340 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I mean, I yeah, I'm a little bit 341 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: too much like Jackie. I'm very easy to persuade when 342 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: it comes to my kids. So but not after one time? 343 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: You wouldn't, right, No, I would. I would be like 344 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad, was it? You know, like, oh, yeah, 345 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to go, okay, let me talk to 346 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: your dad. Fine. I guess I would too. I don't know. 347 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I I would try, like twice at least. Yeah, maybe 348 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: that's a good idea, like just try one more time. 349 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: In this episode, we do see and the landed normal 350 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: like it. It played authentically to me the impact that 351 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: Jackie had on Kelly and maybe the damage that Jackie 352 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: was doing, because I did think, oh, this is weird 353 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: that she said, oh you have no eyelashes and very 354 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: pale skin, and like we hadn't really seen that before, 355 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: but I do. I could see a mom that's a 356 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: model really messing up their kidal intentionally. Yeah, she didn't 357 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: want to you have to be a mom that's a 358 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: model to mess up your kid. Yeah, it's really see 359 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: it happens from every most moms out there. I'm sure 360 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: in some way we'll mess up our kids and not 361 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: even think we're doing it. Yeah, say something little and 362 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: not really notice it or see the impact that it 363 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: has on them. So hard. What do you guys think 364 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: of Jackie and Kelly like that dynamic? I love them together. 365 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I just felt really bad for Kelly, 366 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: especially during all that part where she was trying to 367 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: get ready and she was feeling so insecure and self conscious. Um, 368 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I felt, you know, it's so hard to love yourself 369 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: at all anyway, It's really hard. That concept of loving 370 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: yourself the way you are is really hard for some people. Um. 371 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: And I think that it's really a lot harder for 372 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: people who are put in that category of being pretty 373 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: or being being something or someone that people look at. 374 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: It's it just feels a lot different when the focus 375 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: is all on your appearance. It's hard for you to 376 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: not focus on your appearance and that the importance of it. 377 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: And I could relate with Kelly and I've felt like 378 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: that before, Like it's not a good feeling and it 379 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't make it. People can tell you, oh 380 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: you're so pretty or your whatever this that it doesn't 381 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: make it any easier for you to love yourself. So true. Yeah, 382 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: she was really struggling with that. I often feel like 383 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: Kelly's the mom and Jackie's the daughter. I feel like 384 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of mixed up. I like their relationship. I 385 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: love you guys together, like it's magic on screen, you 386 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: guys working together, but it's I always want like I 387 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: wish Kelly would just have could do like a kid 388 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: swap parents swap, be with have Cindy for a while. 389 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: She would love that, right. It would have probably done 390 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot to heal some wounds that she's had just from. 391 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: And I felt for Jackie too, because she was really 392 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: looking inside too in this episode and acknowledging the impact 393 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: that she had on her you know, daughter, and and 394 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: all the mistakes that she must have made along the way. 395 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Like I felt my heart broke for her a little 396 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: bit too. H It's interesting to compare in this specific 397 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: episode Jackie and Kelly and then Jim and Cindy and 398 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: Brenda who are also having I guess you could call 399 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: a bit of a conflict, but it's so the Walsh 400 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: conflict is so like it's like nothing, know what I mean, 401 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: Like Brendo maybe wants to go to school back home, 402 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: she needs fifty dollars, like she didn't tell them, and 403 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: then they are so the way they approach it, it's 404 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: so different, you know, Like think about that conflict. There 405 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: was no yelling. It was all it was all like 406 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: from love and talking and like we want you to 407 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: go to school wherever you want, just come to us. 408 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: And then like Brandon opens up to Jim about the gambling, 409 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: like they just are so Minnesota parents versus Beverly Hills parents. 410 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: I was when I was watching Kelly and Jackie, I 411 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: was like, I'm seeing a lot of similarities in my household. 412 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: With this household like that we have. There's there were 413 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: three girls growing up now there's only one girl still 414 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: in the house. But and me, and I'm just a girl, 415 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: like I don't know what I'm doing. And a lot 416 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: of time when there's a conflict or like there's a 417 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: tough spot, it's like everybody just starts like me included, 418 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: like I'm not very good when it comes to being 419 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: more like Cindy Walsh. I guess. Yeah, I don't think 420 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: anybody is. Tori. Do you think you're more like Jackie 421 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: or more like Cindy in real life? As I was 422 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: like Cindy for many years, but now that I'm getting older, 423 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: like the Jackie's coming out, you've got five now you've 424 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: got no time for Cindy. The patients. Yeah, I used 425 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: to have the patience of a saint. Everything would be 426 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: handled like this, and I hear you and I understand 427 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: and I know what you're feeling. But it was like 428 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: very therapy. Talked to the kids. I think that worked well. 429 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I never raised my voice, And now like they start 430 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: arguing and I'm just like, ah, yeah, it's just losers. 431 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I hate it when they argue 432 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the kids. Oh my god, that's the worst, the worst. 433 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: My kids still do it. And I'm like, you guys 434 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: are going to send me to the hospital. I can't 435 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: handle this. And you couldn't just like walk away because 436 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: they usually do it in your space, like do it 437 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: in front of you because they want you to do something. Yeah, 438 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm sort of thinking about Jackie versus Cindy and ultimately, 439 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: like is one a better mom than another? You know what? 440 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Cindy's got her own issues because I was a Cindy 441 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: for a long time, and when you repress your voice 442 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: and you just keep everything down, it somehow comes out 443 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: at some point, and not in a healthy way. So 444 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: like there's gotta be moments where Cindy wants to just 445 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: like be like yeah, like well, and I kind of understand. Mean, 446 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: it's that tricky thing where Jackie thinks she's helping Kelly, 447 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: helping her look better, helping her with her makeup, and 448 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: like it's the only way she knows to help her though, well, 449 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: and she might be even was right like maybe do 450 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, but how do you 451 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: help a kid without making them feel like they don't 452 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: look right? How do you do that? It's so hard 453 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: no matter because just in my own experience, it's even 454 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: currently like whatever I say or whatever suggestion I have, 455 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how it's going to be received. So 456 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: it kind of almost even stops me from saying anything 457 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get in her head in 458 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: a way that wasn't already there, like you know what 459 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like the two perspectives, because you see that 460 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: in the big blow up where she's saying, you made 461 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: me get a nose job. You begged for the nose job. 462 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: You know, you didn't give me a cake or something. 463 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: You made me go on weight watchers. Like. It was 464 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: these two perspectives where I'm sure Kelly did ask for 465 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: the nose job, you know what I mean, like, and 466 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: then Jackie gave it to her because she thought that's 467 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: what she wanted, like, but in giving it to her, 468 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: she solidified Kelly's belief that she needed it right. So 469 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: it's just like and then saying, oh, if Kelly said, 470 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: oh I ate this cake, I feel like I should 471 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: lose some weight, her mom was probably trying to be 472 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: helpful and saying, oh, I just did this great program 473 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: called weight Watchers and you could do it too. It'll 474 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: be fun like, and then in Kelly's mind that was like, 475 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: oh I need weight Watchers. I'm I'm overweight, you know. 476 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Like you know, if you're trying to be helpful with 477 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: your teenage daughter, it's really tricky because they have to 478 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: figure it all out themselves. I just try to stand 479 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: back at this point and let them come to me 480 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: and not offer any advice or tips or anything until 481 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: I feel it's a safe space. The nose job combos 482 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: giving me PTSD. I wanted to ask I wanted to 483 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: ask you that, but I didn't. I wanted to. I'm 484 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: glad you are opening the door for me. Yeah, we'll 485 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. Did it like? I don't know, but 486 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't even feel it watching it, 487 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: But hearing you talk about it now, I'm like, did 488 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: my dad say something to the writers about this situation? 489 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: Because it was it was a constant kind of we 490 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: didn't fight in our house, like, everyone just like kept 491 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: their feelings inside. And then I almost quiet and happy. 492 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: And even if you weren't, so it was it was 493 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: not good. No one ever yelled. I never heard my 494 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 1: parents fight my entire life. Um, but yeah, it's it's 495 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: a constant thing that I always I perceived it as 496 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: my mom wanted me to get a nose job. My 497 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: mom perceives it that I asked, you know, for a 498 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: nose job. So it's two different stories, but but the 499 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: same thing. That's the same thing, right, which it was, 500 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: and probably both are true, knowing just the way the 501 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: world works. Oh wait, what what? Amy whispering again? Whispering? 502 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Um No, I think I think I told you guys 503 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: this story that it came. It never came out that 504 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: I felt this way or there was anything between us 505 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: until um in eleventh grade, I had a class, like 506 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: a health class, and it was Mrs Wildflower. She was 507 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: like this hippie, dippy perfect name, of course, right, and 508 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: we had to write down one thing in a paper 509 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: that we hadn't told anyone before that really heard us 510 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: and made us upset that we were angry about but 511 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: hadn't expressed it, and just write in a paper and 512 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: get it out and give it to her. And she 513 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: ended up calling my mom, which was I felt like, 514 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, she betrayed me and I didn't know 515 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: to My mom called me in the bathroom. She's like, 516 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: I got a call from Mrs Wildflower and she read 517 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: me your paper. And I'm really hurt because I didn't 518 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: make you get a nose job. I didn't tell you 519 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: you weren't pretty. I didn't do any of this, and 520 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, we'll never know what it was. But also 521 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: I was a young girl, and it's how I heard it, 522 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: no matter what she said, like you're saying, it's perceived differently. 523 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: So she was horrified and hysterically crying. I was hysterically crying. 524 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Mrs Wildflower did a good thing. We got to talk 525 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: it out, and she was like, I never felt this way. 526 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: I thought you were you know, I think you're beautiful. 527 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought you were beautiful before you didn't have to 528 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: get a nose job. So anyway, I'm wondering where this 529 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: story came from. WHOA Like wow? But anyhow, I would 530 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: say it was a good lesson though, because when my 531 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: daughters talk about their parents, I just don't say a 532 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: word because you know, I'm like, whatever you want, if 533 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: you feel, if you think it looks good, it looks good. 534 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm so careful. Like you said, Jenny, you don't 535 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: know what to say. I just don't say anything because 536 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: how it really transpired and it was perceived apparently wrong 537 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: in my mind. But I don't know. No, I don't know, Jenny, 538 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: what do you think I would have? I think both 539 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: can be true, meaning both are true. You probably maybe 540 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: did want it, but then she probably didn't say the 541 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: right thing or not. Sometimes mom's effort up too Yeah, 542 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean we're not perfect. Yeah, or maybe they I 543 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm trying to get inside Jackie's head. Maybe 544 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: like she thought Kelly would be happier, do you know 545 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So maybe she did put that on 546 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: to her saying you can get a nose job, because 547 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: maybe she thought she had expressed it so many times 548 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: that she Yeah, maybe it doesn't come from a bad 549 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: place of wanting to change your kid, but maybe you're thinking, 550 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: let me give my kid I think it is. Yeah, 551 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: but then okay, so right, so then I can totally 552 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: relate to this that I won't go into detail, but um, 553 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: the you want the kid. You want your kid to 554 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: feel confident and like go out there with their best 555 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: foot forward. And this is a tough life. And if 556 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: that's what they need and you have the ability to 557 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: provide it for them, and and you know, you're like, whoa, Okay, 558 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: why not. If that's gonna that's gonna help my child, 559 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: then that's what I'll do. But on the other hand, 560 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be giving them the message of unconditional 561 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: love and love yourself the way you are and you're 562 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: perfect just the way you are, and go out in 563 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: the world and conquer it that way. So what's you 564 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: is the right way? You're damned if you do. You're 565 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: damned if you don't. I don't know. You're right, I 566 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: don't know either. You know, it makes me think, is 567 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: of the four of you, Kelly, Donna, Andrea, Brenda, who 568 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: do you think is the most comfortable in who they are? Andrea? Yeah, 569 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: I think so what do you think, Jenny? I like 570 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: Brenda was very comfortable and who she was. No, no, no, 571 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: it's to me it's Andrea. I never really haven't seen 572 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: Brenda like look in the mirror and feel self conscious 573 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: or feel like I've never seen that on the show yet. 574 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: I've seen that with Andrea. That happens. Cameria has it 575 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, but Brenda is I think has her things. 576 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean even right now, she wants to go home. 577 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: She feels like she doesn't have these close friends here 578 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: and she's like wants to go back home. That just 579 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: comes from like insecurity in the whole situation. She I mean, 580 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: I'd want to go home too, that all this had 581 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: happened to me. Yeah, But Jenna asked in right there 582 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: and didn't get picked the prettiest girl, like I'd be 583 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: like Sea Beverly jents. Right though they don't really ever 584 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: show her struggling with her appearance or how she looked like, no, no, 585 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: you're right, color her hair look. Yeah, it's true she 586 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: and she doesn't really blame herself. Well maybe a little 587 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: bit like just if she would have gone over to 588 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: the hotel room that night, then things with Dylan Helly 589 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: would be different. But she's nevers a little bit of 590 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: a narcissist, right, how so because she somehow makes the 591 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: situations about her often? Is it okay to say this? 592 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, And I think sorry, I've been I've 593 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: been reading a lot about narcissists lately, and it's not 594 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: always what you think because there's like five there's many 595 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: different types of narcissists. You could be like the sweet, 596 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: sweet kind narcissists, Like I feel like she does often 597 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: make things about her and it's about like, I don't know, 598 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: so maybe she doesn't always have moments where she feels 599 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: insecure because she feels entitled, she feels you know, kind 600 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: of a little bit. Yeah, I'm so scared of that title. 601 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm so scared of that word narcissist. Like I have 602 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: issues with that word because I've used it. I know 603 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: people that I'm pretty sure narcissist um. But it's such 604 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: there's so many different facets to a narcissist. There's so 605 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: many different ways that you can be one, or that 606 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: you can or you're not one, like you know what 607 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I get I get really nervous with 608 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: that term now because who's to say I'm not a narcissist? 609 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: Like if someone someone could look at me and think 610 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm a narcissist or or and then how is it 611 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: okay I'm looking at someone else to either narcissists? Does 612 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: that make me a narcissist? Like, you know, it's I mean, 613 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: we could do. I've been studying it a lot lately. 614 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: And did you know that there's like a one percent 615 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: in every single one of us, so we all have 616 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: minor it's all varying, you know, degrees. It's it's a 617 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: definite spectrum with narcissism. And again there's many different kinds. 618 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: There's the kind sweet narcissist that you were like, Oh, 619 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: I always thought narcissist meant this bad bad. It's not 620 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: always like that, but I just mean, I don't know, Yeah, 621 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: you're right, I guess it came up for me because 622 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm just gonna be an. I don't 623 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: think either of you are because you always care about 624 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: how the other person feels, meaning even just the three 625 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: of us, and narcissist typically wouldn't. It's not that they 626 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: don't even think about it, right, it's not. It's not 627 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: a purpose, it's just ingrained in them. Yeah, I mean 628 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: you're always you guys from the research I've been doing. Yeah, 629 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: I don't think why are you doing? I just want 630 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: to learn about it. But I don't think any of 631 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: us are. But I don't think so either, because we 632 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: get so upset if we think somebody else is feeling No, 633 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: did I make you feel? No, we do their actions 634 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: the three of us where it's like, that wasn't my intention. 635 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: Let me figure let's figure that out. Every single one 636 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: of us does that. But what I started to think 637 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: about when you said that Tori is Brandon versus Brenda. Yes, 638 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: if I had to say, Brandon is like the EmPATH. 639 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: He's always trying to like solve the problem, take care 640 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: of everybody, make his sister like she goes to him 641 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: for the fifty bucks. He doesn't even have the fifty bucks. 642 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: He's trying to figure it out, so he does. He 643 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: is the one that gets the less attention a lot. 644 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: He's okay with that though. Yeah, they would be interesting 645 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: for a therapist to like analyze. That would be kind 646 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: of cool to get a therapist to come on the 647 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: show to analyze the characters. Yeah, we do it like that. 648 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: We have to get a we have to find a therapist. 649 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: So if someone's listening that really knows the show, yeah, 650 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: because Dr Drew, it would be fascinating to analyze Kelly 651 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: and Jackie and I think Tory Donna and uh, what's 652 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: your mom? Felice Felice. I think there's a lot coming 653 00:40:51,120 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: with Felice. Yeah, there is. Yeah, going back to the show, 654 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, what you said last week? Well 655 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: two things what you said last week? Amy about um 656 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: the sort of um, uh, what's it called? When you 657 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: see ahead? I'm blanking? Do you see what? Foreshadowing? Thank you? 658 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: Of Brandon and Kelly. I felt like there was even 659 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: more there this week, like a little flirty exchanges with them. Yeah, yeah, 660 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm wondering. I have no idea does that come soon later? 661 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: What season does that happen? Because I know what happens, 662 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: but not soon. It's not super so. So they're just 663 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: developing a really nice, sweet close friendship right right, because 664 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: it's not like when that does happen, all they have 665 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: to get to know each other, they are going a date, like, no, 666 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: they're way past that stuff. So though I did at 667 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: the end really feel prime Kelly and Dylan like now 668 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: they're really in a groove and like you see, because 669 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about the scene at the kid at 670 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: the at the park or the playground, because that was 671 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: first of all amazing performance by both they. It was 672 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: I felt like that scene was compelling, Like I watched 673 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: it and I was actually like, I like the scene 674 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: and I can kind of remember doing it. Well, how 675 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: could you not? It was night, so obviously you shot 676 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: all night. And Luke Perry is eight. He is really amazing, 677 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: like he is such a good actor. Mm hmm, I 678 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: just remember it was it felt very like it was 679 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: just the two of us out there because I that 680 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: I didn't. I felt like there was no crew when 681 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: we were doing that scene, and it was very like 682 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: we were allowed to just go where we wanted to go. 683 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: There was no like set blocking that we had to 684 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: do for camera angles, and they weren't worried about the 685 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: lights blocking us. It was more about what we were 686 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: saying and the emotions that the characters were going through. 687 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: I remember feeling a lot of freedom with that scene, 688 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: is just as far as like what what what are 689 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: we going to get out of the scene? Who knows? Like, 690 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: let's seecause I was a little bit more raw, Like 691 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: there was some parts where you you couldn't even totally 692 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: see Kelly's face. Maybe I'm trying to remember. I think 693 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: you're in a black dress in that scene. Yeah, and 694 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have any shoes on either, which you know, 695 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: you just can't have shoes on when you're just dealing 696 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: with so much emotional that she had to lose those 697 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: shoes and I was just walking around barefoot in that 698 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: grass and night. I was like, oh my gosh, you 699 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: must have been cold. But yeah, I did love that scene. 700 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: I felt like before that though, I was like, what 701 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: the F is these problems? Like she's on such a 702 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: rant all the time, Like God, she was irritating me. 703 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: Because that sort of made me understand her on a 704 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: different level. It is that the first time they acknowledge 705 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: that the phone call saved him. I think that and 706 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: then you saying yeah, and I just wanted to hear 707 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: your voice. So it's almost like you saved you save 708 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, that line made me. I feel like 709 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: they do this a lot with Dylan and Kelly. They 710 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: like put them out there, like you were saying, like 711 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: there's the observatory, there's the pool at night, there's this scene, 712 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: and it's really cool. It's like them against the world. 713 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: They're totally in a different universe, the soulmates, and it's 714 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: I love that they do this. Yeah, I'm thinking, Tory, 715 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: that's a good point. I'm thinking about it. We don't 716 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: see that with the are cast as much. Those one 717 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: on one intimate, dark, gritty you're outdoors somewhere totally removed 718 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 1: from the world really with just the two of them, 719 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: always at night. It's really cool. We get a lot 720 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: of David and Donna scenes with the two of them, 721 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: but it's always very right. But these are all see 722 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: too like deep, you know, it's they set the mood 723 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: moody and dark, and it's too like really flawed characters 724 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: like that have come together to and and find that 725 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: comfort in one another because nobody else can really relate 726 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: to the depths of their you know, what they've in 727 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: their mind, what their faults are. And I feel like 728 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: they relate on such a deep level that that they 729 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: don't really do that with the other characters. You're right, 730 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like at that end when when they 731 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: when they took the picture of um they finally took 732 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: the picture her for the senior pole thing best couple 733 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, umty, we see like we I 734 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: don't know. For me, I just saw the way Dylan 735 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: loved Kelly, like I could feel how much he loved her, 736 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: and that made me love her again, and that just 737 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: that last moment. Yeah, I I sort of hoped you 738 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: have that picture somewhere in a frame like that was 739 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: on the same way. I don't. I don't have that picture, 740 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: but oh my god, that I can. But if someone 741 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: does have it, let us know. Did anybody have a moment? 742 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't. I don't know if this 743 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: is just me where it was like Dylan and Kelly, 744 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: but it was Luke and Jenny. I thought, oh, that's 745 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: a picture of Luke and Jenny too. I have felt 746 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: at the very end of the show like I felt 747 00:46:54,360 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: like that was us. Yeah, yeah, agreed, it didn't You know, 748 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: when you're making it, you don't really think about it 749 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: because you're trying to I don't know what you're You're 750 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: just in the moment of the scene, and but you 751 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: it does gets blurred and I feel like that was 752 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: one of the moments when it felt really blurry for me. 753 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: But it was so heartwarming and like I miss I 754 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: miss that, miss those moments, right, And when she said 755 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear your voice like that, I 756 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 1: that was so accurate. M hmm. I'm the show is 757 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: ringing it out of me. I tell you. Sometimes it's 758 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: just like too much. Yeah, it takes takes me back 759 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: when I stopped like the episode, I'm like, what year 760 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: is it? A little bit like I really can get 761 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: into Yeah, you m I kind of love how it 762 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: is for you both re watching it. I will say this, though, 763 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: you were right. Kelly's hair does look darker again this week. 764 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: I noticed it now, not almost just a little what's 765 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: the like a toner, It had like it had highs 766 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: and lows, Like it felt like there was low lights 767 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: and highlights. Maybe it was, you know, when we would 768 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: go and do our movies of the week River and 769 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: they would we color our hair or whatever we would 770 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: do to it. Maybe this was after we came back 771 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: from one of those Oh I wonder okay, wait wait wait, 772 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:53,479 Speaker 1: so if this aired in April we had then could 773 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: it be over Christmas break and you have been doing 774 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: a movie maybe the last episode? Yeah, it was like 775 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: the first episode back from a break. Tory and I 776 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: were talking Jenny before. The fashion wasn't super nothing stood 777 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: out to me, although you had for the yearbook photos 778 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: like Brandon in that suit. I actually liked Brandon in 779 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: that suit better than Dylan in that tux. To me, 780 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: Dylan looked better at the end when he was just 781 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: being Dylan. I'm of the outfits when Donna and David 782 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: were announcing on on the stage, like, your little color 783 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: coordinated striped outfit was so cute with he kind of 784 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: looked yeah, but it was like a blazer dress box. 785 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: It was like a fitted one. Right, that was cute, 786 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: going I'm going back on imad And I loved your 787 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: dress in the first scene, like that felt we got it. 788 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh that's like Kelly, that felt you. That felt like 789 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: you in real life at the time. Yeah, like long dress. 790 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: Now like you're Daniel Steele's how do I can you 791 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: guys see it yet? Oh? There we go? Now star 792 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: Star is my hair darker. Oh my god, let's look 793 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: at her hair, man, I'm pulling it out. Whoa, Oh 794 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: my god. This first one, wasn't it. You had done 795 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: a couple episodes of melrose Place, and then you also 796 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: were doing Lies of the Heart, the story of Lori Kellogg. 797 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: But that seems a little later. Oh god, you're being 798 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: choked by that man. I'm being choked by that man. 799 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 1: Who is now my How to even explain that? Who 800 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: is that? Gregory Harrison did a lifetime Moviegory Harrison. Uh? 801 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 1: And yeah? And who is he? Agen? He is now 802 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: my ex husband's soon to your father in law. It's 803 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: so weird. I made out with I made out with 804 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: basically my ex husband's new fiancee's dad. I'm trying to 805 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: think of a time when you all will be together. 806 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, your hair here is a little bit warmer 807 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: than your natural Kelly hare and maybe you were just 808 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 1: like I want to be a little different than Kelly 809 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: in this movie. And so they put a rinse on 810 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: it or something, and then it was still kind of 811 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: in there when it came out. Mystery solved. Mystery solved. 812 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm more fascinated. And when all the all the all 813 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: those people you just talked about will be together, and 814 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: I think it'll be at your kid's weddings. Oh my gosh, 815 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm there for that. Whoa. And then without consent that's 816 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: coming to that seems not too good either. They are 817 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: all very dramatic without consent. Who was in that one? 818 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: Was that Johnny Galecky? Yeah, I'm so good. And then 819 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: this is Mr Schoviz, I got you ulling for you. 820 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: You have the short hair, so that's later. We don't 821 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: have that yet. Who's that? It was that Rob Bestie's. 822 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: No Williams was in that? Oh my god? Wait, was 823 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: that when you were a piano player? No? That was 824 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: star Okay, okay, I think she was. Yeah, she was 825 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: a singer. Daniel Steele. She's Oh my god, that's that's 826 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: that's like major to like being a Daniel Steele movie. 827 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 1: Back then, that was like everything. Sorry, I've read every 828 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Steel book. I love her. It was definitely fun. 829 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: Ah good. Kids now would be like, who's Daniel Steel? Yeah, 830 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 1: they don't even know who we are, so, oh my god, 831 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: you know what I've had to be Oh god, it's 832 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: at this point lately because you get that blank stare 833 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: and someone will be like I know you, And then 834 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: like the kids were and I said, oh, don't worry 835 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: your mom's I'm sure your mom's a fan. Yeah, you've 836 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,919 Speaker 1: just embraced that now I do. I'm embarrassed that they're 837 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: just like and they and they look at their parents 838 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: or look at whoever they're with, like how do you 839 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 1: know when I was like that, like your your mom's 840 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 1: a fan, that's why. Just let me know each other. 841 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: Or this kid at the airport was screaming, excuse me. 842 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: His voice was so loud and it was early morning, 843 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: just gone off the longest light ever, and he was, 844 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, my dad's a huge fan. I get a picture. 845 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, yes me, yes, yes, my dad. 846 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, take a picture of the old girl 847 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: here that used to bother but doesn't father me anymore 848 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: like that. You know when that first started happening, I remember, 849 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: I was like whoa, whoa wa, whoa whoa. Oh. Remember 850 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: when we first started talking about how we didn't get 851 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: the looks anymore from a certain age of men, that 852 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: they just remember that that you're invisible. Yes, Remember I 853 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: told you. I was driving and I was like honking 854 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: and then he looked out and he saw blondeer and 855 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: he looked over and saw it was me, and he's 856 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: like and just kept driving. He was I think they're 857 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 1: going to get something great from Like I was devastated, 858 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: and Jen's like, yeah, this is what's happening. I was like, no. 859 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: And we had it very we wanted to write about it. 860 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: At some points we're like, God, it's such a thing, 861 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: like you, it's a transition for I forgot to tell 862 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: you guys my idea. You never told a special podcast 863 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: you were going to Texas and you never do. I 864 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: think take it to the text, yeah, because I don't 865 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: want to reveal it, because what if it is so 866 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: good we have a private OMG text yea, Chaine, take 867 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 1: it to the next I'm gonna take it to the text. Okay, 868 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: what are we doing next week? It is episode twenty six. 869 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: She came in through the bathroom window. That's a take 870 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: on a famous movie, right. Uh. He came in through 871 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: the back door. No, that's that's different. That's a poor 872 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: And you saw she gave it through the speaking of 873 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: old Jed. That was a real knee slapper. Oh my god, crying. 874 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: I think we gotta wrap on that I can't do 875 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 1: it anymore. Watch it, Cocker, cocker, She said, come on 876 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: the movie. I can't. Oh my god, we crack us up. 877 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we crack you up, but oh 878 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: my god, it's going to laugh with you guys every week. 879 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: That I gotta tell you. I need it, We all need. 880 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: Everybody out there has a good laugh. Please do that 881 00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 1: has a good week. We love you, Love you. My 882 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 1: mom's a huge fan. My god, your mom's going to 883 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 1: hear this. That's even more embarrassing by gus By