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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you

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Speaker 1: I didn't see how they wrapped it up. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: with us here in the Hunday Texans Radio studio across

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Speaker 1: the half in the locker room and John McClain, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing. You must be ready for a big

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Speaker 1: weekend like we all are. I'm more excited about this

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Speaker 1: regular season game than any Texans game I've covered, and

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Speaker 1: it reminds me just from my own personal standpoint back

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Speaker 1: was just exciting. And this time it's because of Seaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. What's at stake for both teams to first

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Speaker 1: place teams first of the treacherous three game stretch for

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Speaker 1: the Texans, but live in national media coming to this

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Speaker 1: game because of Jackson and why? And the Texas have

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Speaker 1: never won an Mt. Bank Stadium, and I just I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be close. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: so much fun to be there. It's a great setting,

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Speaker 1: John and this MVP talk is hard to escape. I

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Speaker 1: know it's about these teams getting together, but Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be deafening going into whatever the next

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Speaker 1: game is for each of these teams. Obviously for the

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Speaker 1: Texans it's the Colts on Thursday night. But don't you

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Speaker 1: think a lot of MVP talk is a week to

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Speaker 1: week kind of thing. Well, it's Russell Wilson's gonna win

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Speaker 1: the MVP. This is about who's gonna be second? You

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Speaker 1: really think so? Oh my goodness, yes, And the way

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Speaker 1: throw a pick, well, but everybody throws pigs. Okay, Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and Lamar Jackson aren't gonna win either one. Is

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Speaker 1: not going to win the MVP unless Seattle craters. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: if he had second he had one. He threw an

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Speaker 1: interception that was the second of the year. He leads

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Speaker 1: the league in touchdown passes. Now, he did lose at

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Speaker 1: home to Lamar Jackson, But the key for Watson is

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Speaker 1: this one, of course, But if he were to play

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Speaker 1: well and they lose, He's got two back to back

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Speaker 1: nationally televised games against Indianapolis in New England. Those are

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Speaker 1: going to be seen by a lot of voters. Those

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Speaker 1: All right, John, what is the biggest key to this one?

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Speaker 1: Let me just go simplistic here. What's the biggest key

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Speaker 1: but I know it goes deeper than that as well.

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Speaker 1: The Texans have been horrendous in the first quarter the offense.

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Speaker 1: Only Washington has scored fewer points in the first quarter

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Speaker 1: than the Texans. Guess who's tied with the Texans, Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: What does Cincinnati and Washington have in common one victory.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are number two in scoring in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: two points behind New England. They play ahead. That's one

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Speaker 1: reason they run the ball a lot. If the Texans

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Speaker 1: have to throw the ball because they haven't had to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball to come from behind, can they do it? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Cleveland beat them at him and T Bank Stadium and

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Speaker 1: they lost to Kansas City on the road. Texans beat

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Speaker 1: Sure they can, but turnovers. Of course, I believe that

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Speaker 1: Romeo Cordell's defense, given up eighty four point one a

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Speaker 1: shut down Edwards, the kids. Can they contain Jason? And

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Speaker 1: you think Mark, okay, they need to control the ball.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati controlled it for thirty six minutes, eleven seconds and

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Speaker 1: got beat forty nine to thirteen because they got behind,

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Speaker 1: had to throw. Not good at throwing. Plus Baltimore's defense

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Speaker 1: Texans have won. But I don't think either one of

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Speaker 1: with Flamar Jackson. But also, and as I wrote a

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Speaker 1: including six by Darren Fells. DeAndre Hopkins was sixty eight catches.

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Speaker 1: even more sleep. Not many teams have as many weapons

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Speaker 1: of the big surprises you and I talked about it

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Speaker 1: last week, the Texans running game this season based on

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Speaker 1: Can they run the ball against Baltimore. Can they get

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Speaker 1: that done with the backs? John, never mind Watson, It's

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Speaker 1: not like Ray Lewis and the Lodi Nada and Terrell

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Speaker 1: they can run. Their strength is in their secondary. You know,

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Speaker 1: they've added Earl Thomas they traded from Marcus Peters. He

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Speaker 1: to have. To go up against another key for only

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Speaker 1: the fourth time this season, the Texans are going to

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Speaker 1: have their five starters they want on the field in

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. They're three and oz when those guys

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Speaker 1: from his spring mcl and it should be very good.

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Speaker 1: If they can keep the presnap penalties to a minimum, well,

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Speaker 1: that's a big factor. And the turnovers they've been able

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Speaker 1: thing as well. Now, what about in the secondary, John,

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Speaker 1: You're just getting used to garyon Conley back there Roby.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what his status is going to be,

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Speaker 1: but they think Robie's coming back. Well, they got at one.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of options back there, a lot

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Speaker 1: as many former number one picks at cornerback as they can.

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Speaker 1: They've got even Jonathan Joseph was the number one pig

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Speaker 1: To Sean Gibson's back, that gives makes them three deep

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Speaker 1: at safety. Joliladi played with that Chargers team that beat

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's given them some tips about how to

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Speaker 1: play against him. But this, even without Roby, this will

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Speaker 1: be the strongest the defense has been in a long time.

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Speaker 1: You know, JJ's gone. Nothing you can do about that.

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Speaker 1: But the Texans are in better shape physically than they

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Speaker 1: have been since early in the season. Well, Johnny part

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Speaker 1: of the out last night. How John Harbaugh during his

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Speaker 1: well Reader has done and what he means to this defense.

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Speaker 1: And I know you're on a lot of out of

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Speaker 1: they totally shut him down, frustrated him. He was throwing

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Speaker 1: nobody talks about a nose tackle, but Romeo Cornell's using

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Speaker 1: him as a three technique and five technique. He's moving

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Speaker 1: him around because number one, he doesn't have water clowney.

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Speaker 1: Number two, he's versile enough to do it right right now.

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Speaker 1: If I had to pick somebody on the defense who's

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Speaker 1: Both will play significant roles going against Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore offense. And Jackson we know he runs all

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Speaker 1: John is yes he could throw the ball. Well, we've

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Speaker 1: seen the two perfect passer rating games. I know the

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Speaker 1: I think what bothers me as if I was a

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Speaker 1: the team. That's the way Greg Roman is drawn it up.

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Speaker 1: They have designed runs for him. I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 1: If he pitches the ball, that means that if he

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Speaker 1: If he pitches like he didn't that Heisman backfield three,

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Speaker 1: hit him. They won't do it again. But the problem

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Speaker 1: when you get to him and you're gonna bring him down,

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Speaker 1: he's still so elusive. I've used all week that it's

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Speaker 1: like he's got grease all over his uniform. Guys get

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Speaker 1: He's got spin moves, he's got head fakes, he's got

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Speaker 1: He's the best running back on the field. He is,

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Speaker 1: and he's just like Michael Vick always was. He's got

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Speaker 1: great instincts for running. He'd make a great running back.

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Speaker 1: He'd make a great wide receiver. Of course, now he's

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Speaker 1: making becoming a great quarterback and he's just fascinating to watch,

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Speaker 1: just as he was when we saw him first few

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Speaker 1: times Louisville. You know, the Ravens are a terrific organization

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Speaker 1: and Harball his first year was two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Flacco joins the team that year as well as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and the first five years they get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Each of those years win a playoff game. At least

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Speaker 1: each of those years they eventually won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we talk about Harball enough as one

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Speaker 1: He's lasted a long time, He's won a championship. It's

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Speaker 1: line when you know you have nothing happening. But then

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick on third and ten runs around, runs crazy and

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Speaker 1: gets a first down, Like Buck, here we go, let's

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Speaker 1: snap the ball again. It's just a weird deal, but

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Floris is doing a nice job

431
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Speaker 1: under the circumstances. Okay, I wanted to talk about this

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Speaker 1: Blue Ribbon panel. You're off for the Hall of Fame selection.

433
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a mega class for the one hundredth anniversary.

434
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Speaker 1: What's that like for you being on this panel. They've

435
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Speaker 1: changed things a lot, but here's the way it's doing.

436
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Speaker 1: We have a regular forty eight members selection committee, and

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Speaker 1: I'm also on the Seniors committee, and they took I

438
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Speaker 1: think twelve of us from the selection committee and put

439
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Speaker 1: us on the blue ribbon panel with people like John

440
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Speaker 1: add Bill Belichick, Ron Wolf, Carl Peterson, Bill Polly, and

441
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Speaker 1: Gil Brandt. Joe Horgan had just retired after forty five

442
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Speaker 1: years the NFL, Joel Buzzard, forty year NFL historian, a

443
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Speaker 1: couple of guys from NFL Films and NFL dot Com,

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Speaker 1: And we have conference calls every Wednesday, and we've been

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Speaker 1: discussing senior candidates. Will there will be ten senior candidates,

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Speaker 1: three contributors and two coaches. And originally we would nominate

447
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Speaker 1: them and our regular forty eight member committee would vote

448
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Speaker 1: on them, but not individually like we do every year.

449
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Speaker 1: It would be an all or nothing proposition. So then

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Speaker 1: they determined last week that we wouldn't just nominate. We

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Speaker 1: on the senior panel would vote on fifteen people yes

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Speaker 1: or no, not individually, and we will cut these less

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Speaker 1: down and then we will meet the second week of

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Speaker 1: January and Kenton to do the final voting. And it's

455
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Speaker 1: just fascinating listening to some of these at long time

456
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: NFL people talk about players and coaches, it's this one

457
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Speaker 1: of the coolest most prestigious things I've ever been involved with.

458
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Speaker 1: Is it hard to pick guys? And I guess the

459
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Speaker 1: answer is yes, from the forties and fifties. What about

460
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Speaker 1: the twenties. We're going back to the twenties and the thirties.

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Speaker 1: We had a list of more than two hundred possibilities

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Speaker 1: on seniors and we had nobody saw him play. But

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Speaker 1: they have come somehow come up with some film. They

464
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Speaker 1: must run like ninety miles an hour, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of the guys have watched it, and I'll list them

466
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Speaker 1: and there's but we don't want all from back then.

467
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Speaker 1: But a lot of people got slighted. Joe Horrigan had

468
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Speaker 1: just retired from all of famous told us all these

469
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Speaker 1: things that happened to players through the decade and the committees,

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Speaker 1: how they bypassed them and why. And so it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be difficult to pick ten seniors from all those decades

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot I started why in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and that I can remember nineteen sixty. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot about the players from the fifties, but the forties, thirties,

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Speaker 1: and twenties A no. Even Gil Brandt didn't se him

476
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Speaker 1: because he's only eighty five and if Gill didn't see

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Speaker 1: him here in trouble, and then we will talk next.

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Speaker 1: We'll start debating over weeks, two coaches and then three contributors.

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Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now I'll be pushing

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Speaker 1: Bud Adams because we always sail on our committee. Can

481
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Speaker 1: you write the history of pro football without this person?

482
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Speaker 1: You cannot write the history of pro football without Bud Adams,

483
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Speaker 1: who co founded the NFL with Lamar Hunt. So Alt

484
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Speaker 1: Davis is in obviously obvious, Yep, Lamar Hunt is in. Yep,

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Speaker 1: I mean Bud Adams, He's right. Ralph Wilson's in if

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Speaker 1: Ralph is in, and all those other guys. And there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things Budd did that I'll guarantee you

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Speaker 1: they don't know that I do. That I've written about

489
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Speaker 1: and got confirmed by Lamar. Little things like given New

490
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Speaker 1: York the rights to Joe Namath to keep him from

491
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Speaker 1: going to the NFL. That's huge, saved the league hiring

492
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Speaker 1: one of the first African American executives to scour the

493
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Speaker 1: Southwestern Athletic Conference, Tom Williams, in the sixties. They also,

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Speaker 1: at one point at three African American quarterbacks signed the

495
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: first superstar Billy Cannon, one of the first two championships,

496
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: lost the longest game in history up to the to

497
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Speaker 1: that point, not even to that point, it was the

498
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Speaker 1: longest in history Texans. If there's an AFL Hall of Fame,

499
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: it's an old brainer he's in. Well it's not. It's

500
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Speaker 1: a pro football I know. But if there was, and

501
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Speaker 1: the AFL's part of the NFL's like, I'm not even

502
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Speaker 1: gonna say, don't think about. But as an owner later

503
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Speaker 1: in his career, everything is about the history of the game.

504
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a quick story. At one point

505
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Speaker 1: they were signing all the top college players paid more

506
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Speaker 1: money than the NFL, and Al Davis wanted to go

507
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Speaker 1: after the NFL veterans when their contracts expired, and Lamar

508
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: Hunt thought that was dirty pool. And they were the

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Speaker 1: meeting and Lamar said, well, if you agree with me,

510
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Speaker 1: you don't want to sign him, come over here and

511
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Speaker 1: sit on my side of the table. If you agree

512
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Speaker 1: without sit over there. Bud Adam's only when it went

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Speaker 1: over without Davis, And turned out there were negotiations going

514
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Speaker 1: on between Lamar Hunt, Tex Sahram, and Pete Roselle that

515
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: everybody kept quiet. And when Lamar went back and told

516
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Speaker 1: them it looks like we're gonna start going after your

517
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Speaker 1: veterans like we are. The rookies to had a merger,

518
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Speaker 1: So bud player role in the merger too outstanding. John,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the information. We look forward to reading your

520
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Speaker 1: stuff in a chronicle like like Colum I'm doing on

521
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: This game is not only big for Deshaun Watson, it's

522
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: big for trader. Bill O'Brien tookays game all right, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark the General. John McLean joining us on

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Patti Smith coming up. Let's talk about

525
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Sports Hall of Fame and something really cool

526
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: going on with a good friend of mine. I'll just

527
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: leave it at that. I think you've heard about it,

528
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: but we'll share more about it. Hey, if the Texans

529
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: score two or more touchdowns, and they've been doing that

530
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Speaker 1: a lot lately, head dear closest jack in the box

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Speaker 1: the next day for your free Texans jumbo Jack with

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Speaker 1: a large drink purchase. Patty coming up and Houston Methodist

533
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Speaker 1: minutes the best of your favorite injuries. It's Texans Radio

534
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Speaker 1: All The studio is such a much brighter place now

535
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: here on Texans Radio because Patty Smith is in the

536
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: house from the Harris County Houston Sports Authority. Patty, how

537
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: are you? I am fine, But it was bright when

538
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Speaker 1: I walked in because the General John McLean was here, right, Yeah, Yeah,

539
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: that's how I describe it. It's just a very attractive

540
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of scene here. No, when you walked into changed.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest about that. But we have

542
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: so many things to cover, so I want to get

543
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Speaker 1: to them all, and I know the Houston Sports Awards

544
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Speaker 1: are coming up January twenty first I want to talk

545
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Speaker 1: about that. But first, this Brothers in Arms that you

546
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Speaker 1: have helped put together with Andrea Ware, Warren Moon, Vince

547
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Speaker 1: Young and Deshaun Watson. My goodness, want to force some

548
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. This is awesome stuff and I talked about

549
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: it a bit last week. I know you released the

550
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: information last week, but this is so cool with these

551
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: guys banding together for such a great cause, it is

552
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: so cool. I can't even tell you just how thrilled

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: and excited I am to be a part of it.

554
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: And the response that's beginning has been an incredible The

555
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: traction I think it's going to get moving forward and

556
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, for me and you and I just talked

557
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Speaker 1: about this, the best part of it is seeing how

558
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Speaker 1: involved and how excited these quarterbacks are. These guys are

559
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. They're not just putting

560
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: their name on it. They are involved. Brothers in arms.

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Speaker 1: Of course, for those of you that don't know, is

562
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Speaker 1: a diversity scholarship. That's a foundation sort of us being

563
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: put together. These four guys, the four legendary African American

564
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in sports, Houston sports history. All four of these

565
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: guys raised by a single mother, and so they've come

566
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Speaker 1: together and will be presenting scholarships to kids not unlike

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Speaker 1: them at the Houston Sports Sports Awards, kids that are

568
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Speaker 1: participating in sport and are being raised in a single

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Speaker 1: family home. I mean, yeah, Andre Ware who won the

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Speaker 1: High Trophy. Yeah, Vince Young who should have won the

571
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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. You have Deshaun Watson who should have won

572
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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. I guess Warren could make that claim

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Speaker 1: as well. At the University of Washington. Put up big

574
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Speaker 1: numbers there before going to the CFL. So on the field, obviously,

575
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: the results speak for themselves. But it's so cool that, yeah,

576
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Speaker 1: they had that in common and they I mean to

577
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Speaker 1: hear Andre talk about his late mother, you know, who

578
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Speaker 1: passed a year ago, actually right around the time mister

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Speaker 1: McNair went, And it was really, I mean, what an

580
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Speaker 1: emotional down the stretch era many era we had here

581
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Speaker 1: in the broadcast booth. And I remember all the stories

582
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Speaker 1: about his mom when I worked with him on the

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Speaker 1: Morning Show and what she meant to him and the

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Speaker 1: parenting she gave him, and he gives her all the credit.

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Speaker 1: And I know the other guys have to feel the

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Speaker 1: same way. I've read a lot of obviously and heard

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Speaker 1: a lot about the Shan and his mom. But v

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Speaker 1: Y and Warren Moon, how did you get these guys together?

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Speaker 1: How did you put this troop together? Well, obviously, you know,

590
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: with all my years with traveling with you guys in

591
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Speaker 1: the Texans, and I started with Andre, it was kind

592
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: of a no brainer. And he's the one that said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got to get Moon. And then he

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00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: and I are talking about it, and I called Moon

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Speaker 1: and he's like, well, we've got to get Vince and

596
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: then we're like, well, the only one left, and who

597
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: better to have than the guy currently playing now than

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and everybody jumped on board without even a

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Speaker 1: second thought. And you know, these are guys that have

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Speaker 1: you know Andreas seven million times. You know, I've been

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Speaker 1: wanting to do something with these guys for a long time,

602
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: and this is just a no brainer. And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't even difficult to be honest with you, all right.

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Speaker 1: So scholarships, you got to Brothers in Arms if you

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Speaker 1: just want to learn about this, never mind apply for

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Speaker 1: a scholarship, but Brothers in Arms Houston dot com. So

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: you go to the website. Then what happens Patty, Well, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go to the website, learn about it, be a part

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Speaker 1: of it. But for you kids out there who are listening,

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Speaker 1: this is a great time to jump on because we've

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Speaker 1: got a short window here. We didn't want to wait,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to launch this now. The application deadline is

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Speaker 1: December first, so it's only about three weeks out. You

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Speaker 1: can apply, send it back. You've got to, you know,

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00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: get a couple of letters of recommendation and write them,

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Speaker 1: write an essay on what does diversity mean to you?

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Speaker 1: And that can be a lot of different things. So

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Speaker 1: we're anxious to read all those essays and then Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll select our recipients right now. We're probably we don't

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Speaker 1: want to limit it, but right now we're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: do three, and they will be able to attend the

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Speaker 1: Houston Sports Awards be a part of it with these guys.

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Speaker 1: All four of those guys will walk out on the

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Speaker 1: stage together, which is going to be really cool. If

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00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: you look back at Sports Awards our first year, when

626
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Speaker 1: we had Earl Campbell, Nolan Ryan, and Hakim Elijah On

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Speaker 1: in the room at the same time, our thirty fours

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Speaker 1: all under the same roof for the first time ever

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Speaker 1: in their history. And I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: going to be the same, but it might be. But

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Speaker 1: those four guys will present the scholarships to these kids

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Speaker 1: and it'll be really kind of a great moment. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it gets Brothers in Arms. Houston dot Com apply by December. First,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: the Houston Sports Awards. But before I do that, I've

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Speaker 1: got a curveball for you because I did a Reddit talk.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been on Reddit? Much? Reddit? Obviously huge website,

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Speaker 1: huge message board type website, and I don't really spend

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Speaker 1: time there. Right, I got enough stuff. But after doing

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Speaker 1: this like bumble after No, it's not like that. It's

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Speaker 1: not tender bumble. It's not one of those things. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is Reddit. It's just a big, gigantic message board

643
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Speaker 1: and there's a whole Texans community on there. And I

644
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Speaker 1: did a Reddit talk. I don't know what they call it.

645
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Speaker 1: I just answered a bunch of Reddit questions and it's

646
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Speaker 1: ama ask me anything. So I'm gonna ask you some

647
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Speaker 1: of the questions I got today. But if you were

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Speaker 1: on Reddit today, thank you very much. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: a chance to get to all the questions. There were

650
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Speaker 1: about ninety one hundred questions and I probably answered half

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Speaker 1: of them. And it was about an hour, so I

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Speaker 1: had to go after what should I be afraid? No,

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Speaker 1: don't be afraid. Let's do it because I know I've

654
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Speaker 1: done a podcast with you talking about your career. It

655
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Speaker 1: was great. It's somewhere in our podcast archives Vandermeer's view.

656
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Speaker 1: But they asked me who is the most memorable person

657
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Speaker 1: I've interviewed? And you know, it's hard to give one,

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Speaker 1: but give me a couple, give me two or three,

659
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Speaker 1: so you don't have to necessarily rank them. I always

660
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Speaker 1: think this is a better way to ask this sort question.

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Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I got to come up with

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Speaker 1: the most my most fave. What are some of the

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Speaker 1: better ones? I know you've interviewed George Bush forty one

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Speaker 1: several times. I mean, he loved talking with you. Was

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Speaker 1: that one of them for sure? Or do you have

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Speaker 1: some others? What can you share with me? Absolutely? For sure,

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Speaker 1: he would have to be one of them. Um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is a really hard question to answer, and I've

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Speaker 1: been I've been asked it so many times that you

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Speaker 1: would think I would have us yes, Pat answered, and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't because there's so many different ways

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Speaker 1: to define that. I mean, there's so many guys that

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Speaker 1: you just you talk to and you just either can

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Speaker 1: click with and have a great interview with from a um,

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Speaker 1: you know, producer standpoint or a conversation standpoint, might be

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Speaker 1: somebody different, and I guess I my go to answer

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Speaker 1: is always my very first interview, because it's your first

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Speaker 1: and it was so big and it was so unheard

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Speaker 1: of that it has to be probably a pretty memorable one.

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Speaker 1: And that was Paul Newman, my very fused interview every anywhere,

681
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Speaker 1: And Paul Newman didn't do intervie. This was back in

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Speaker 1: the early nineties. It was a race car driving situation.

683
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Speaker 1: Huge actor, obviously, and he doesn't do interviews, and I

684
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: didn't know any better, and I was just green and

685
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Speaker 1: I just walked up to him and said, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and and it happened. And probably not

687
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Speaker 1: it was probably awful. I mean, what do you ask,

688
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Speaker 1: what's your favorite color? No, it wasn't like that, but um, yeah,

689
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Speaker 1: he was phenomenal. He was accommodating. Um. His team couldn't

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Speaker 1: even understand how I got that interview. They weren't happy

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Speaker 1: about it, and I just didn't care because I didn't

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Speaker 1: know any better, so I would so you started at

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Speaker 1: this is so Patty find a way into the interview.

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Speaker 1: He came to me, I was in a batting cage.

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Speaker 1: I think I told you the story. I was in

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Speaker 1: a batting cage at this press event. And he walked

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Speaker 1: up and he goes, how did these things work? And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is Paul Newman asking

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Speaker 1: me how to work a batting cage. And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: you just put your coin in the slot, and I

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Speaker 1: showed him how to do it. I'm like, oh, by

702
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: the way, I'm with the Sporting Times. It was this

703
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: little free paper in Atlanta, and that's that's what you

704
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Speaker 1: were working for at the time. And I said, I'd

705
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Speaker 1: love to do an interview with you, and he said, okay,

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Speaker 1: Paul Newman, Oh freaking Newman. That is huge. And he

707
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Speaker 1: was a pretty good driver. Yeah. I always respected him

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Speaker 1: for that for the second career kind of thing. He

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Speaker 1: had the money to fund it. And he still has

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Speaker 1: the Newman's own stuff. Would you see it in the

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Speaker 1: store all the time? So good for him. Yep, that's

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Speaker 1: I still have the little I did on a little cassette.

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Speaker 1: I took my little recorder and push play. I still

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Speaker 1: have the little cassette. And yeah, it was the I

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Speaker 1: got the front page of that little paper, and I

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Speaker 1: was often running Did you ask him better movie Butch

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Speaker 1: Cassidy or the sting better movie? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Do you really like Robert Redford or do you just

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Speaker 1: tolerate working with him because the movies click chemistry? You

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Speaker 1: probably both. I didn't ask any of that stuff. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I would be good. Yeah, I didn't ask that. Elizabeth Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have a lot of questions Paul Newman. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I didn't ask the question that I would

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Speaker 1: have asked about Elizabeth Taylor. Just now, Okay, Patti Smith

725
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Speaker 1: is with us. You have the Houston Sports Awards coming

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Speaker 1: up as well, January twenty first, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: induct Carl, who will not sing that night, or maybe

728
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Speaker 1: he will, maybe he will. You might want to come, yes, no,

729
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: our three Hall of Fame induction. Should I should? He should?

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Speaker 1: He should take a stab at it? Well, maybe not

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Speaker 1: not the anthem, something else, Mary Lou sweet your sweetheart,

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Speaker 1: my sweetheart, America sweetheart, my sweetheart. And Rudy T. And

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Speaker 1: Rudy T. Yeah, I mean stellar class once again. Um

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Speaker 1: And funny because when you talk about Carl Lewis and

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Speaker 1: singing in this show, well, you know, I try to

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Speaker 1: make it really special for these inductees as far as

737
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Speaker 1: who their presenter is, entertainment at the event itself, and

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of just asking my generic questions. Mike, So, Carl,

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Speaker 1: you know who who you know? Who? Are your giving

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Speaker 1: me some names of people that I should contact that

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Speaker 1: maybe would be that you involved that he gives me

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Speaker 1: three names, and I'm, you know, don't think much of it,

743
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: and he is connected. I mean, this is a different level.

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00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: So he I'm calling these people that are these multi

745
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: winning Grammy Award winners out in LA and this and

746
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: that and oh my gosh, we're gonna bring so and so.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying all that to say, um, this is

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Speaker 1: going to be an incredible show from an entertainment standpoint

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of really cool people that want

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Speaker 1: to come help honor Carl. It's it's gonna be awesome. Look,

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Speaker 1: the room is always always both years you've had it

752
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: and this is here three, but the first two years

753
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: were phenomenal. People have to go. So Houston Sports Awards

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Yep, Houston Sports Awards dot Com. Yeah, there

755
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: are some tables still available, but it's it's quick, quick,

756
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Speaker 1: So please Christmas, gift get somebody this as a gift.

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00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: It's an experience. Experiences are better than gifts than physical

758
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: gifts sometimes. Yeah, and this is like and you've been there,

759
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: and I mean it's you know, to have our especially

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Speaker 1: the Astros going to the World Series again, the Rockets,

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00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: the Texas, all the success, all those athletes in the

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Speaker 1: room at the same time celebrating the year in sports.

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Speaker 1: And then inducting these Hall of famers at the same time,

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Speaker 1: and then to experience this brothers and Arms moment that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have. It's um this one will everybody says,

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Speaker 1: how do you top this one? Do you top last year?

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Speaker 1: We're going to top it again. That sounds outstanding, Patty,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Oh and one more thing, one

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Speaker 1: more thing, Lifetime Achievement. Mister McNair. I talked about our

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Speaker 1: Lifetime Achievement Award recipient. I talked about him on Reddit today.

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Speaker 1: They asked me some questions and I was able to

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Speaker 1: type something. It was great. It was great to talk

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Speaker 1: about him, and I'm so glad he's gonna be honored

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Sports Awards January twenty first, yep, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it all right, Houston Sports Awards dot Com

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Speaker 1: a little best of Houston Methodist Minutes, and let's revisit

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Speaker 1: concussions here with a couple of Texans coming off the protocol. Well,

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Speaker 1: doctor Kenneth Padel of the Houston Methodist Concussions Center. I

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00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: asked him about recent developments and concussion treatment and research

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Speaker 1: earlier in the season. Hey, Mark, A lot has gone

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Speaker 1: on in the last twelve months. A couple of real

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Speaker 1: interesting things that we're starting to pick up on are

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Speaker 1: a little bit different ways of assessing for concussion. So

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Speaker 1: we're adding some new tools to the toolbox to make

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Speaker 1: it a little bit easier, a little bit more exact

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Speaker 1: and sensitive and detecting concussions. A lot of that has

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Speaker 1: to do with measuring eye movements and balance and how

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Speaker 1: the eyes are involved with balance makes big, big difference

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Speaker 1: for some of the athletes and helping us diagnose concussions

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Speaker 1: more objectively and accurately. Another big thing that's kind of

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Speaker 1: transpired in the last year that we noticed is some

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Speaker 1: of the research showing that individuals who continue to play

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Speaker 1: their sport after getting a concussion, even for fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: usually take at least twice as long to recover from

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Speaker 1: a concussion than if they kind of come out as

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Speaker 1: soon as they get the concussion. So actually, if athletes

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Speaker 1: want to get back into the game quicker after a concussion,

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Speaker 1: they're better off getting out faster. There's doctor Kenneth put

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Speaker 1: of the Houston Methodist Concussion Center. Now let's talk high

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Speaker 1: ankle sprains for a moment. A little flavor of that.

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Speaker 1: Not a flavor we really want, but let's learn about

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Speaker 1: them with doctor Travis Hansen. What's the difference between a

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Speaker 1: high ankle sprain and the garden variety. Well, a high

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Speaker 1: ankle sprain involves the ligaments between the two long bones

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Speaker 1: in your leg, the tibia and the fibula, and they're

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Speaker 1: nasty for athletes because they take a lot longer to

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Speaker 1: heal than your garden variety lateral ankle sprain. We usually

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Speaker 1: tell our athletes later ankle sprains, you might be back

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Speaker 1: on the field in a week or two, and we

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Speaker 1: tell our athletes with high ankle sprains, you may be

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Speaker 1: looking at sixty eight weeks or even longer if these

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Speaker 1: require surgery. I'd say about ten percent of the high

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Speaker 1: ankle sprains require surgery, whereas a lateral ankle sprain is

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Speaker 1: very very rarely meat serve. When you have a lower

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Speaker 1: ankle sprain, what happens, what physically occurs, So your lateral

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Speaker 1: ankle sprain kind of the garden variety one is sort

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Speaker 1: of when you step awkwardly off a curb and you

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Speaker 1: roll your ankle kind of roll on the outside of

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Speaker 1: your foot. That's your guard variety ladder ankle spring, which

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Speaker 1: is different than the high ankle spring. There's doctor Travis

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Speaker 1: Hanson on high ankle springs. And that's been a little

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Speaker 1: best of Houston Methodist Minutes presented by Houston Methodist, official

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Speaker 1: healthcare provider of the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist Leading Medicine. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for tonight's show. Thanks to Patty

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Speaker 1: for coming on and John McLean. Didn't have a chance

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Speaker 1: to catch up with my buddy John Harris, but we

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Speaker 1: will do that tomorrow on the show at six. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget Saturday Night After the News, which is after the

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Speaker 1: game on ABC thirteen. Texans Extra Points, Texans Buzz two

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Speaker 1: shows you need to be watching. Have a great night, everyone,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the Thursday night football matchup and go Texans.