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Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. You might be

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Speaker 1: able to tell from my voice fighting through a cold,

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Speaker 1: and also had an amazing trip.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate Buck holding down the fork.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I went up to Chicago where I spoke on

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Speaker 1: gender and voting, and I'm not sure Buck that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be invited back, but I would encourage you

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Speaker 1: guys to go check out the YouTube. Producer Ali watched

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Speaker 1: it a lot of fireworks. Was not a Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: or Buck Sexton fond room. Hundreds of undergrads at the

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Speaker 1: University of Chicago, super smart school, and I think I

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Speaker 1: made some arguments that many of them had never heard before.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play you some of those cuts. I

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Speaker 1: think you guys will enjoy it. It's also posted it

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Speaker 1: up at the Clay and Buck website. But Buck yesterday, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, some good news. Tulsea Gabbert has officially

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Speaker 1: been confirmed. We told you that that was very likely

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Speaker 1: to happen. It appears that every single cabinet nominee that

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Speaker 1: is going to be nominated, which is actually quite rare

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Speaker 1: when it comes to second terms and presidential picks all

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Speaker 1: being confirmed. So this speaks to the mandate that Trump

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Speaker 1: has put in place that all of the people he

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Speaker 1: to be confirmed, including Tulsea Gabbard and RFK Junior.

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Speaker 2: And let's talk for a minute, buck.

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Speaker 1: About something that would typically have been a big point

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Speaker 1: You met Tulci for the first time several years ago.

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Speaker 1: I had Tulsi on my sports talker radio show back

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Speaker 1: presidential nomination. She was fabulous. I think that would have

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Speaker 1: been in like twenty nineteen or something. Was the first

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Speaker 1: time I ever interviewed her. But I do think it's

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Speaker 2: The extent to.

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Speaker 1: Which Trump has built an entirely new coalition of Republican voters.

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Speaker 1: And many of you out there listening to us right now,

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Speaker 1: all over the country did not vote Trump in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Some of you did not vote Trump in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Some of you did not vote Trump until twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Trump gained twelve million voters between twenty sixteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, and it's become a much bigger tent as

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Speaker 1: a result. A lot of you, like Rfk Junior, that's

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Speaker 1: what brought you into Trump. Some of you like Tulca Gabbard.

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Speaker 1: I think this is an incredible credit to the coalition

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Speaker 2: Buck Elon Musk voted.

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Speaker 1: For freaking Joe Biden in twenty twenty hard to believe, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I think this is a credit to everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of climbing on the Trump train at a different

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Speaker 1: point in time. But there now is a diverse coalition

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Speaker 1: of thought embedded in the Trump cabinet that features a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who would have been traditional Democrats. Now

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Speaker 1: I was a little bit ahead of the curve on

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Speaker 1: voting for Trump and switching from being a Democrat compared

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Speaker 1: to all three of those people I just mentioned, But

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Speaker 1: I think there are hundreds of thousands, if you have

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Speaker 1: the past, that have kind of followed that same trajectory

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Speaker 1: of these individuals. And I think it speaks well to

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Speaker 1: a new coalition of common sense that I think Trump

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Speaker 1: is building that is potentially far more impactful than a

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Speaker 1: coalition of people who are focused entirely. For instance, not

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Speaker 1: that there's anything wrong with it on what the tax

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Speaker 1: as low as they can possibly be.

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Speaker 2: But I think.

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Speaker 1: Democrats have sought so lost connection with basic common sense

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Speaker 1: that they're now arguing against Elon Musk trying to root

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Speaker 1: out fraud and wasteful spending inside of our government. And

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Speaker 1: also that they're now rooting against the elimination of men

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Speaker 1: we should miss the major transformational nature of just what

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Speaker 3: It's also just in terms of the raw politics of

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration early on, which is to create schisms

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Speaker 3: what we are seeing. And I will say anybody who

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Speaker 3: we would see a little of the discombobulated Trump energy

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Speaker 3: really had to eat a little humble pie here because

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Speaker 3: this has been a phenomenal first few weeks. I know

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Speaker 3: otherwise to slow everything down. They're already starting this, but Clay,

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Speaker 3: just the the stuff that we are that when I

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Speaker 3: stuff that America is seeing about what Democrats believe the

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Speaker 3: government should be like and how it should operate. They're

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Speaker 3: long time. Some of these people who are going on TV,

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Speaker 3: who are saying, I mean, I watched that Elon press

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump, did you see it live? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And it was it was phenomenal. I did not know this,

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Speaker 3: and I worked for the federal government, that there is

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Speaker 3: a mine shaft somewhere with like I thought this.

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Speaker 2: Was made up. Buck, I can't believe. I could not

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Speaker 3: That Just to be clear, this is real, everyone, Okay,

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Speaker 3: there is a mine, like like an old mine you'd

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Speaker 3: There is a mine that is in a mountain. That

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Speaker 3: is where they store the paper files for federal government retirees.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: This is cut play we play this. This is cut six.

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Speaker 3: This is the craziest of all the dough stuff. I

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Speaker 3: think in some ways this is crazier than transgender puppet

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Speaker 2: I think this is even crazier. This is cut six. Plate.

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Speaker 4: We're told the most number of people that could retire

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Speaker 4: possibly in a month is ten thousand.

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Speaker 2: We're like, whoa, why is it?

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Speaker 5: Why is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper.

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Speaker 4: It's manually calculated, been written down on a piece of paper.

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Speaker 4: Then it goes down to mine and like, what do

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Speaker 4: you mean a mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine

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Speaker 4: where we stole all the retirement paperwork. That look and

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Speaker 2: We'll post the pictures afterwards.

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Speaker 4: And this is this mine looks like something out of

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Speaker 4: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five,

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Speaker 4: so it looks like this is like a time warp.

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Speaker 4: And then the speed, the limiting factor is the speed

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Speaker 4: at which the mind the shaft elevator can move, determines

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Speaker 4: how many people can retire from the federal from federal government,

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Speaker 4: and the elevator breaks down and sometimes and then you

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Speaker 4: can't nobody can retire.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound crazy?

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Speaker 3: This is real buck Business Insider, which is a left

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Speaker 3: wing site. The federal paperwork mine in dogs crosshairs is

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Speaker 3: real and bizarre. We're sitting here there's it looks like

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Speaker 3: you're going to tunnel to the center of the earth

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Speaker 3: to find you know, like the Hogwarts.

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Speaker 2: I mean sorry, the Harry Potter mine.

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Speaker 1: You know where they had like the bank, you know

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Speaker 1: if you the Green Gotts Bank or whatever. In order

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Speaker 1: to I I it doesn't even sound real, like clay,

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Speaker 1: how is this possible?

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Speaker 3: The foot We should put up some photos of the

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Speaker 3: facility up on clayanbuck dot com just just so people

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Speaker 3: can see this. These are it's this government facility. Seven

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Speaker 3: hundred employees working two hundred and thirty feet underground, processing

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Speaker 3: around ten thousand federal employee retirements a month?

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Speaker 2: Does this sell like the worst job on the planet?

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Speaker 1: By the way, like I can you imagine like you

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Speaker 1: take a train or whatever the elevator underground, like into

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Speaker 2: There's several things that tells me.

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Speaker 1: No one ever gets forced out of the federal government

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Speaker 1: if they still process retirements on paper, right, like no

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Speaker 1: is the very essence of a bureaucracy that is awful.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, Buck.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me when I moved to the US Virgin Islands,

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Speaker 1: you got a driver's license, and your driver's license you

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Speaker 2: In other words, it was not automated in any way.

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Speaker 1: The fact that we still have an unautomated system to

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Speaker 1: allow retirement to they must have your file there, Buck,

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Speaker 1: from when you were a federal employee.

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Speaker 3: Hundreds of feet underground in a mountain. It looks like

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Speaker 3: an old mining town photo. This is It's Greenhut's bank,

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Speaker 3: and and and you have Elon and Trump and and

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Speaker 3: Doge on the one.

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Speaker 2: Side of this issue.

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Speaker 3: Issue point to it being like, hey, guys, maybe we

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Speaker 3: And you have Democrats going no, everything the federal government

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Speaker 3: problem here. Yeah, this is you know, there's what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: but there's also the way that they are informing, really

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Speaker 3: educating all of us. I'll tell you I did not

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Speaker 3: know about this thing, and I worked for the federal government.

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Speaker 3: If someone had told me that there was a mine

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Speaker 3: shaft where they stuffed all the paper work for federal

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Speaker 3: retirees two hundred and thirty feet underground. You have to

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Speaker 3: use a special mining elevator to get there, I would say,

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Speaker 3: no way, Like I think the government is crazy, but

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Speaker 3: no way, way it is real.

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Speaker 1: What would be the reason why this would not all

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Speaker 1: be automated and it wouldn't be able to have instead

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Speaker 1: to say, I don't know seventy people managing all this

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Speaker 1: because nobody cares how expensive it is because it's the government.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares how inefficient it is because government, and nobody

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Speaker 1: to always stay the same. That's how the Democrats think.

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Speaker 1: And also buck nobody ever leaves. And I think this

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. All right,

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Speaker 1: But Trump has just posted that he and Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 2: It was virtue, I mean, virtue signaling.

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Speaker 3: Well young men on both I feel bad for the

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Speaker 3: Russian conscripts they don't want to be doing. I feel

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Speaker 3: you know, I feel bad. I mean, this is like

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Speaker 3: a silly, small thing. But I feel bad for the

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Speaker 3: Russian athletes who were treated like they were scum at

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Speaker 3: international competitions because they happened to be Russian. It's not

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Speaker 3: their fault that Putin invaded. The whole thing was a hysteria.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, and a lot of people out there

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Speaker 1: on the left sold the fiction that Ukraine was somehow

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Speaker 1: going to win this war. And I give you credit, Buck,

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Speaker 1: because early on you said Russia has the material, the manpower,

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Speaker 1: the resources, and the will and they eventually are going

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Speaker 1: to grind this thing out. And basically what you're getting

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Speaker 1: now is Ukraine acknowledging that Russia is, you know, slowly

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Speaker 1: adding more and more territory, and Ukraine is suing for peace,

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Speaker 1: and Buck, I actually think that Ukraine is going to

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Speaker 1: be at a tougher negotiation spot than they would have

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Speaker 1: been if they had gotten a deal back in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, candidly, because at that point in time they

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Speaker 1: had kind of solidified and maybe had Russia on its

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Speaker 1: back foot a little bit. And instead, look, I think

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Speaker 1: Putin made an awful choice to invade Ukraine. I think

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Speaker 1: the loss of man power and life, and as you

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Speaker 1: say that people who've got severely injured in the process

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Speaker 1: as well, don't forget them as well as the people

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Speaker 1: who died, was completely unnecessary and unfortunate. But allowing it

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Speaker 1: to occur and extend for as long as we did

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Speaker 1: was equally indefensible. And I just want to hear from

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Speaker 1: all those people out there who told us when Trump said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll get the situation resolved in Gaza, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: the situation resolved in Europe, and said we'll get it

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Speaker 1: done fast. Where all they were four weeks in and

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Speaker 1: within the next month we may have a negotiated settlement

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: They all told us this was possible. Yet here we are.

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Speaker 3: Why is it that Donald Trump comes into office and

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Speaker 3: within weeks Mark Fogel is returned home. Mark Fogel is

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Speaker 3: now back with his family. You know the guy he made.

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Speaker 3: He made a mistake. He had a medical marijuana, uh

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Speaker 3: you know, and he traveled to Russia and the Russians

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Speaker 3: love to come down very hard on Americans that they

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Speaker 3: can and use them as as bargaining chips. Biden was

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Speaker 3: very quick to get Britney Griner out of the Russian prison.

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Speaker 3: As we know that Mark Fogel was left to uh

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Speaker 3: to to rot in that prison and Trump got him.

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Speaker 3: Trump got him out, and you know, it's it's pretty

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Speaker 3: powerful clay when you hear the story of Mark Fogel's mother.

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Speaker 3: You know about this, Right before the assassination attempt on

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, Mark Fogel's mother said, yeah, Fogels

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Speaker 3: was in a Russian prison for three and a half years. Everybody, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you really don't want to be in a Russian Federation

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Speaker 3: prison for three and a half years, okay, rough. I

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Speaker 3: think Britney Grinder was in for a matter of months.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it got to a year. And

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Speaker 3: so Fogel his mom went up to Trump and said,

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Speaker 3: if you win a you're gonna get my son home.

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Speaker 3: And Trump said yes, and now her son is home.

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Speaker 3: And that was right before, of course, they shot Trump

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Speaker 3: in the year tried to kill him. But the Democrats,

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Speaker 3: I think part of their panic is that not only

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Speaker 3: were they unable to stop Trump with all their false narratives,

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Speaker 3: the truth of the promise of Trump and trump Ism

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Speaker 3: is becoming so apparent for everybody that the propaganda just

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Speaker 3: doesn't work. I mean, you know, the things that they're

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Speaker 3: doing and the steps that they're taking. They can cry

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Speaker 3: about this on CNN all night. Normal people see this

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Speaker 3: and go, you want them to pay terrorists from the

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Speaker 3: treasury like you want them to the Treasury Department to

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Speaker 3: pay contractors for a six month contract for twenty years?

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Speaker 2: What is that here?

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Speaker 1: By the way, cut twenty three as we get ready

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Speaker 1: to go to break is what you were just talking about,

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Speaker 1: Mark Fogel, I believe the Trump talking about his mother

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Speaker 1: and the promise.

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Speaker 2: Cut twenty three. Thank you all.

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Speaker 4: And I love our country and I'm so happy to

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Speaker 4: be back here.

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Speaker 2: And I wish I could articulate it better. You've done beautifully.

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Speaker 2: And he's got a great mother.

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Speaker 4: And when I saw the mother at a rally, she said,

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Speaker 4: will you if you win when you get my son out?

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Speaker 2: And I promise. She's ninety five years old, and.

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Speaker 1: I said we'll get him out, and we got him

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Speaker 1: out pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: She told me.

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Speaker 6: Exact words.

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Speaker 1: She made quite an impression.

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Speaker 2: We just wanted to get him back home.

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Speaker 3: I had to get him back home because I would

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Speaker 3: have had big trouble with his mother.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Buck, just as we sit here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a dad, and I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you out there, mom's, grandma's, grandpa's. Imagine being ninety

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Speaker 1: five years old and being afraid that you would die

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Speaker 1: with your son in a Russian prison, never knowing if

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Speaker 1: he would ever come home again. And you vote for

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Speaker 1: Trump and you go out and within a month of

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Speaker 1: getting into office, he brings your boy home. I just,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that makes me kind of feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit emotional to think about her at ninety five. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine getting that phone call? You know, I can't

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Speaker 1: only imagine how awful it is to have something like

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Speaker 1: that happen, no matter how old you are as a parent,

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Speaker 1: but to think like I'm going to potentially die and

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Speaker 1: never know whether my son comes back.

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Speaker 2: You know what I also loved about that. It's an

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Speaker 2: amazing story. I love it. The minute he stepped off

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Speaker 2: that plane, you know what, he did kiss the ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: kissed the ground when he got back to America.

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Speaker 3: You know what was one thing that we're seeing across

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Speaker 3: the board with Trump's ascension that yes, it was true

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Speaker 3: the first time around, but it is just so magnified

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Speaker 3: because of the comeback that he's had and the narrative

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Speaker 3: and the promises made, promises kept. Patriotism is cool again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a big shift.

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Speaker 3: For this country from under a Democrat administration that achieves

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Speaker 3: power by frightening people and driving this country down, putting

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Speaker 3: this country down. Peat Trump has made and people around

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Speaker 3: him and his team and his voters have made patriotism

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Speaker 3: cool again.

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Speaker 2: And it's powerful.

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Speaker 1: I've argued this, and I know you know it because

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Speaker 1: you traveled all over the world with the CIA. Every American,

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Speaker 1: if you had to live a year in the average

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Speaker 1: way that the rest of the world lives, you would

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Speaker 1: kiss the ground when you came back to America. Most

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Speaker 1: Americans are so spoiled. They have no idea what daily

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Speaker 3: as lazy. That's that's not what the conversation is here

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Speaker 3: at all. There's military spending, which is at the issue.

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Speaker 3: But I think the laziness conversation is a portion of

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Speaker 3: federal employees or work from home and do nothing. You

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Speaker 3: can't build dams working from home? Can you?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: No? No?

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Speaker 4: And doing all that.

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Speaker 2: Right, But I'm not talking about you. Is the point

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Speaker 2: right to work.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the call when we say there are lots

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Speaker 1: of federal workers that should and do not deserve their job.

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Speaker 1: If that's not you, you don't need to call in and

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Speaker 1: tell us how hard you work. We know that there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of people who bust their ass. I said

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Speaker 1: half of them should be gone.

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Speaker 3: I turned down all kinds of Wall Street gigs to

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Speaker 3: go overseas, hop in a helicopter and hope I didn't

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Speaker 3: get shot down.

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Speaker 2: As an analyst,