1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. This is this is a 4 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: this is a story that is uncomfortably close to me. 5 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: Dudes and do debts. Why why? Yeah, well I'll tell 6 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: you no. Um, we were all kids, including our illustrious 7 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegram, and we've all done kind of 8 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: dumb stuff growing up, for stunts and such. Yeah. Where 9 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: you going with this? Man, I'm not proud of it. 10 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: But I swallowed some goldfish at my time. Some goldfish. Yeah, yeah, 11 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: multiple goldfish. Not not like it once, No, not not 12 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: nothing crazy. Oh my goodness. What led to this? Uh? 13 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: This currents? Ben? And did you poop it out? Oh? Man, 14 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: this is never mind. Don't answer that answer the first one. Sure, sure, 15 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Uh so it was a dare situation, not the anti 16 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: drug program so popular in Georgia, but it was it 17 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: was like a my dumb friends dared me, and dumb me, 18 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I thought, well, I'll do it. I've eaten a lot 19 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: of strange things in my time. That's sort of your thing. 20 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: It's one of those things. Yeah, well, yeah, it's good 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: to have things. Ben, It's good to have hobbies and 22 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: things you care about. So, Ben, were these like um 23 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: goldfish and bags sort of like a county fair style 24 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: or did they come out of someone's beloved collection of 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: fish in an aquarium? Uh? These these were It's even worse, Man, 26 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: these were purposely purchased sacrifices. You're a monster, Ben, I 27 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: never knew this about Chad person. You're not Bennett's okay, 28 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: because it turns out this was an absolute craze. It 29 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: was a fat I'm not sure if that's if that 30 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: completely absolves you, but at least you're not the first 31 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: person to have this idea. It turns out it was 32 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: practically institutionalized thanks to an organization that's probably responsible for 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: a lot of idiotic, weird culti behavior, the Harvard Union. Yeah, 34 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and the Harvard Union. Uh. In March third, nine thirty nine, 35 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: a freshman with the brilliant name Lowthrop. I bet he 36 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: was really grew up really poor. Yeah, Lowthrop Withington Jr. 37 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Class of forty two. Yeah, you know what, he had 38 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: a lot, he had a lot to work against with 39 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: that name. Anyway, he had a bet with his roommates 40 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: that involved swallowing goldfish, and he swallowed alive goldfish. He 41 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: got ten bucks for doing this, which was actually more 42 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: than I got years later. And let's not forget this 43 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: is a ninety nine So ten bucks in nine dollars, 44 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: that's all I scratched? Should we handy dandy inflation calculator? 45 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: That beast? Yeah? I want to get a sense of 46 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: the market price here and the results are in ten 47 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: dollars in nineteen thirty nine. Is worth casey? If we 48 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: could have the drum roll perfect one hundred and eighty 49 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: two dollars and ninety three cents a decent living down 50 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: in Goldfish in those days, I guess yeah, yeah, is 51 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: your opinion changeing? No? No, I didn't think so. Uh 52 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: So he gets this money, but he also starts a craze, 53 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: and over a two month period, this fad is blowing 54 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: up in colleges across the land. People are swallowing goldfish 55 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: left and right, and with intent. By the way, does 56 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: talk about this, but he doesn't. He doesn't sound like 57 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the nicest guy. Yeah. He was quoted as saying it 58 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: was purely a case of mind over matter. I don't mind, 59 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: and the fish don't matter. See you at least probably 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: had a little bit of empathy for for the for 61 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: the fish man, right. I know I still eat seafood, 62 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: of course he eats seafood. But this is a live goldfish. 63 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about. Fish have feelings, right, probably yea, I 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: was a kid at the time. That's that's a very 65 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: good point. I do want to point out to that 66 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: this became such a thing um that Time magazine referred 67 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: to it as among the maddest in the annals of 68 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: us undergrad It was literally, this is my words, not Times. Uh, 69 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: the butt chugging of nineteen thirty nine, the boofing. So 70 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: people do react diversely to this. The Animal Rescue League 71 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: thinks this is terrible, and then the criticism grows in 72 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: line with the craze, such that Massachusetts state Senator at 73 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: the time, George Crapp k r apf filed this bill 74 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: might be silent, though I would love that if that 75 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: were the yes. Uh, he filed a bill to preserve 76 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: the fish from cruel and wanton consumption. Lo Thor, in 77 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: a letter to The New York Times in nine says 78 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: that he actually did this because his quote unquote campaign 79 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: managers advised him to do it as a publicity stunt 80 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: when he was running for class president, because once upon 81 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: a time he said that he had eaten a live 82 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: goldfish before. Prove it. Yeah, prove it. Put your goldfish 83 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: where your mouth is and then stick it in there 84 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and swallow it. And then he said, this is what 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: a class president needs. Um. He did take a toothbrush 86 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: out and brush his teeth afterwards, because he said the 87 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: scales caught a bit on his throat when they went down. 88 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons this became so well known 89 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: is that there were reporters and photographers in attendance at 90 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: the time when Whittington swallowed this live cold fish. Also, apparently, 91 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm not super clear on this, Apparently he ate mashed 92 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: potatoes afterwards for some reason as a cleanser. I don't know. Yeah, 93 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: just you know clear, you know, I mean, fish are sharp, 94 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: fish have weird little spiny edges. Maybe it like scratched 95 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: up his throat a little bit. I mean, I don't know. 96 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: That's probably not sure. Goldfish probably goes down real smooth. Well, no, 97 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: I I'm surprised that you would say that. Sadly, from experience, 98 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you that's not always the case. But 99 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: also you, in particular, my friend, you have a dare 100 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: I call it a very specific phobia that involves the 101 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: idea of swallowing fish. Okay, first of all, Ben, I 102 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about here. I don't want to 103 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: put out no no, no, no no, no, no, it's fine. 104 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: I'll put myself on the spot man. I will shine 105 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: the spotlight squarely in in in my own face. Um. Yeah. 106 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: We were on a trip one time doing doing some 107 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: shows and we went to a really nice tig restaurant 108 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: and got a whole fish that we were ring between 109 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you and me and our compatriot Matt Frederick. And it 110 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: was one of those fish that have all the little 111 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: spiny bones in and I caught one in my throat 112 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: and I thought I was having a panic attack, and 113 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: then I was never it was never gonna gonna leave 114 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: my throat. I thought it was just in there for life, 115 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: and I could feel the scratchiness of it for weeks 116 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: to come. Uh, pretty sure. I got rid of it 117 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: much quicker than that. But um, I tried swallowing bread. 118 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: I tried, uh, you know, like changing your posture, my 119 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: posture in the whole kind of thing, you know, And uh, 120 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: swallowing ice cubes and nothing did the trick um, So 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: that sensation is really more what did it for me 122 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: than you know, actually something being lodged in my throat. 123 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: But this is different, man, This is a tiny goldfish 124 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: that's presumably quite slippery and not to go right on 125 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: down the hatch, right. Yeah, and uh for the regor bed, 126 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're okay. That did seem quite traumatic. 127 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Uh my mind. I was like, this is just my 128 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: life now. Yeah, this bonus never going And you said 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: that out loud several times. Sure did. We almost did 130 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: do the show, but we did. We did a great show, 131 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: and we we we learned our lesson here. You are right, 132 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: live fish, A live goldfish would be a very different case. 133 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: So we mentioned that there was a media presence. There 134 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: were Papa Rozzi in the in the audience when Wentthington 135 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: did this, And most of the reaction to this story 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: was favorable. As a wacky story. It was kind of 137 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: like in America's Funniest Home Videos anecdote of its time. 138 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: He got job offers, he got fan letters, newspaper clippings 139 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: and Boston papers played a huge role in spreading this 140 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: story in the Boston Harold. A writer named Eva Williams 141 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Raymond wrote rotor response to the goldfish swallowing craze. In verse, 142 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: she said, to end this paranoiac prank, Oh, Harvard, how 143 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I wish you'd put the students in the tank and 144 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: graduate the fish. That's cute. That's well, that's that's all Eva, man. 145 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: I know, but it's like it's the perfect most basic, 146 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: kind of absurdest concept. You know. It's like, what if 147 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: bicycles road people? I love ideas, Like, that's so funny. 148 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: So this publicity inspires a bunch of other people to 149 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: write into a bunch of other papers, and these papers 150 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: run letters they like, and they rerun other stories. And 151 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: one letter to the editor had a point about about 152 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: classism that I thought was cutting. I think it is 153 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: wonderful the advantages boys have who go to Harvard with 154 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: its background of three hundred years of educational pre eminence. 155 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Those of us who for financial reasons have to send 156 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: our children to Wesley into other places, just can't hope 157 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: to give them an opportunity to learn how to swallow 158 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: a live goldfish. Well, if you think about it, I 159 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: mean it's sort of like a junior version of like 160 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: the orderl on, you know, which is like that songbird 161 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: that the uber rich would eat whole d fried bones 162 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: and all and put like a cloth over their high 163 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: eyes in their head to hide their shame from God. Uh. 164 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: There's a really great scene totally illegal to do now, um, 165 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: but they still I'm saying. There's a scene in the 166 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: fantastic HBO series Succession, Um where one of the characters 167 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,239 Speaker 1: take sort of an underling to this very secret exclusive 168 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: supper club and they do the Order lan and he 169 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: sort of explains to him the tradition of it and 170 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: how it represents complete and utter opulence and depravity. Yeah. Also, 171 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: for the record, you know how there's that controversy criticism 172 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: about FOI graw because you're essentially torturing the animal. I've 173 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: seen videos it is, it is is more than essentially. 174 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: It's absolutely torturing me. It's past the line for me, honestly. Uh. 175 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: The order law isn't just caught and cooked. They're kept 176 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: in cages where they can't move and their fat like 177 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: veal like veal. But back to the publicity, right, the 178 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: goldfish swallowing craze isn't just a whoa look at us 179 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: wild and crazy guys hanging out swallowing fish. It's also competitive, 180 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and so people start trying to set records. Three weeks 181 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: after Lawthrop does his goldfish swallowing stuff, a guy named 182 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Frank Hope Jr. Tries to one up him or double 183 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: up him by swallowing three goldfish and saying that Lawthrop 184 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: is quote a sissy, which is as you know. I'm 185 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: sure everybody's nodding in agreement. Um, the measure of masculinity 186 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: is clearly how many fish you can how many live 187 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: fish you can put in your mouth at once? I 188 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't know again at a different times. A 189 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: lot of this is coming from the National Museum of 190 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: American History, too, and you have to wonder what actual 191 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: educational sites right about these kinds of stories. I like 192 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: to think the author is having fun with it. I would. 193 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I would also like to think that then you have 194 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: David Blaine, you know, in modern times, where you swallowing 195 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: baby frogs and then puking them back up into a 196 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: glass of water. I believe it was on uh, what's 197 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: his name, James Cordon. It sounds like something David Blaine 198 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: would do, and he probably was conscious of the goldfish craze. 199 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: He would be right at home actually in this intense competition, 200 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: because how long do you think Frank Hope's three fish 201 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: record lasted. I would imagine not long. I mean this 202 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: required too much of a skill swallowing, and I mean 203 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: David Blaine swallowed a man puked them back up. The 204 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: swallowing parts the easy part, So I would imagine somebody 205 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: bested him pretty quickly. Yeah, you're right, within twenty four hours, 206 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours. Another student in Frank's college, 207 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: guy named George Rabb, swallows six fish. And now we've 208 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: got three different schools battling to be the I don't know, 209 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: the premier fish swallowers. And when you hear this next story, 210 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: everyone keep in mind that these are college students. And 211 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: they're not just college students. They are some of the 212 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: most privileged colleges in the world. I just want you 213 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 1: to remember that when you hear about Irving Clark Jr. 214 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Was student at Harvard. He swallowed not only gay swallowed 215 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: two dozen goldfish, but he furthermore promised publicly to eat 216 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: quote any bug for a nickel, an angle worm for 217 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: a dime, and he said, if you give me a quarter. 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: I will eat a beetle. He just sounds like that 219 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: gross kid in the neighborhood. You know, it's like a 220 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: glue eater. Exactly did we talk about the way Life 221 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: magazine characterized this in the thirties, this whole craze. I 222 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: don't think I love this because it's just really fun 223 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: to read in that like mid Atlantic accent um. Actually, 224 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: now here we go. Time magazine wrote about this craze 225 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: in nine. Last week, Joe College was busy gulp and goldfish. 226 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: He garnished it with salt, with mayonnaise, all with ketchup, 227 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: and he chased it with milk, Cotton's juice, all soda pop. 228 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: But one routine did not vary. Each goldfish was gulped alive. See, 229 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing you'd love to read Domand 230 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: that's a lot of fun. And the headline was crazy 231 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: co ed gulps a guppy. Oh that made my day. Uh. 232 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I love the alliteration. It's like a cognit of tickle. 233 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: Writing a headline really is a skill I don't of itself. 234 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: You can tell when people in especially in British press, 235 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: are happy or that you know, you can tell when 236 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: they've had a back pocket pun they've been waiting to unleash. 237 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: I always wonder how they get away with it. By 238 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: the way, send us your favorite weird headlines for for crazes, 239 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: just anything with some arresting or whimsical language. So the 240 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: goldfish competition doesn't stop there, other colleges get involved. There's 241 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: this guy from the University of Pennsylvania. His name is 242 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Gilbert Hollanderski. He downs goldfish. He doesn't down one, he 243 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: doesn't down three, he doesn't down six, doesn't down two, dozen, 244 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: he downs twenty five and then he eats a steak 245 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: dinner and from then he earned he worked for that way. 246 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: The steak might not have tasted did that great? But 247 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's about the message. It's good. 248 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Steak will wipe away any foul taste from your mouth 249 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: if you ask me. Yeah, oh man, I've been going 250 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: through a steak phase. I don't know if I told you. 251 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: The only meat I've been eating recently got of It's 252 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: all vegets good stuff. Apologies to any vegans out there. 253 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of a steak. I'm not going to 254 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: apologize for that, even though I kind of just did 255 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: I send my apology suck at vegans, just kidding. So 256 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: we know that after Gilbert, more and more people from 257 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: around the country again overwhelming, and college students are swallowing 258 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: more and more fish to try to set the record. 259 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: There's an escalation of fish swallowing. The sure is yeah, yeah, 260 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: there's for instance, Julius Aisner from University of Michigan swallowed 261 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: twenty nine and then Michael Bonner, Albright College football captain 262 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: eight thirty three. Yeah. Then we've got our boy, Albert 263 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Hayes from m I t no less um. He downed 264 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: forty two goldfish um. And actually there was became such 265 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: a like a like almost like a spectator sport or 266 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: a competitive thing. There became an intercollegiate goldfish swallowing competition 267 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: of which he was the champion. That's so wild. And 268 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: then people, as you said, began performing it right in 269 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: front of crowds. A lot of good names in this 270 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: in this episode, this might be my favorite. We've got 271 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Jack Smuckler from Northeaster and he swallowed thirty eight fish 272 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: in front of a crowdser really is becoming kind of 273 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: a spectator sport. Then we have Gordon Southworth who ate 274 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: sixty seven of of the of those regularly little guys. Uh, 275 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: he did that in just fourteen minutes. Sixty seven fish 276 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and fourteen minutes that that received. Now, now we're starting 277 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: to inch into the like that first guy that came 278 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: up with this, wait, like what to one? Yeah, that 279 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: goes too over the course of his life, over the 280 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: course of his life. Um, you know, but I bet 281 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: he was kind of like, my work is done here. 282 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I made something that bib will remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 283 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he imagined that someone like 284 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Gordon would come along and be a competitive eat er. 285 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Sixties seven goldfish in just fourteen minutes. And then there's 286 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: there's another record. There are a couple other records that 287 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: gave him more egregious Like at this point is just protuitous, 288 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? At this point, I'm worried 289 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: about goldfish population. I went to Clark University's name is 290 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: Joseph Deliberato. He swallowed eighty nine goldfish and he is uh, 291 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: he is still not the record holder. We also know 292 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: that this wasn't just the domain of dudes. There was 293 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: Mary Hanson of the University Missouri, famously known as the 294 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: first female student to swallow alive goldfish, but a professor 295 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: of anatomy the u c l A Got involved, and 296 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: this professor said with this actually entry on encyclopedia dot com, 297 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: this professor said, an average size human male can safely 298 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: eat a hundred and fifty live goldfish. I'm sorry, the 299 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: average mail can say, oh so they needed to weigh in. 300 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: Uh less, somebody eats one more than that number and 301 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: uh and die right right. I wonder what that? Do 302 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: you think it's a toxicity thing or it's just like 303 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: a stomach capacity thing. Might be just the stomach capacity thing, 304 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: because what's interesting about this is, uh, there's something called 305 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: the satity response, and it means that it takes your 306 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: It takes your stomach anywhere between seventeen to twenty three 307 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: minutes to successfully send a message to your brain that 308 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: says I'm full. So that's why when you're doing competitive eating, 309 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: you really want to go for as much as you 310 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: can in fourteen minutes, and because otherwise your brain will 311 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: shut you down and then just hold off as as 312 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: well as should because it seems like that's a really 313 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: bad idea. Yeah, I gotta wonder too, how long you 314 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: think it takes the poor little guys to die once 315 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: they get into your stomach and hit all that acid. 316 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't like to think about it. Yeah, you monster, 317 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: God seeing a whole new side of you today. I've 318 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: done a lot of good things. I know you have 319 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: your your Ultimately, that was a long time ago, Ben, 320 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: you were but a child. You didn't know any better. Well, 321 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Whitman said, we were vast. We contain multitudes. Yeah, you 322 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: contained multitudes of goldfish. So we have one last record 323 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: that seems to take the cake. An anonymous student at St. 324 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Mary's down two and ten fish in one city and 325 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: then promptly dropped dead because that's clearly over the lemon. 326 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: And then he died of goldfish, yes consumption right, Oh boy, Uh, 327 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: that's that's insane. That that seems like, I mean, what 328 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: must that feel like there? If? Again, like, I don't 329 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: want to get too grisly with it. But they wouldn't 330 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: die immediately. They'd be swimming around in your stomach for 331 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: a second. Or do you think they would die before 332 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: they hit your hit your stomach because of the squeezing 333 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: nous of the of the esophagus and all that sez 334 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: that is made up that word. Yeah. I don't know 335 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: exactly when they would expire. Yeah, but I imagine it's 336 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: even more horrific for the fish if you're eating so 337 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: many at one time, because they're being crushed under their brethren. 338 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: We went a little too dark with this one, but 339 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: we were gonna come back because this thing eventually went international. 340 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: UM didn't take off internationally quite as as much as 341 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: it did in in the States, but it did make 342 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: its way to Belgium. Yeah. Yeah. Citizens in Belgium, in 343 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: a town called Grammont Groman said that they consume fifty 344 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: goldfish at their annual see how would you pronounce it? Oh, 345 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: let's call it feast of der kraka Linga. I like 346 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: it when you do German. Thanks man, But I misspoke. 347 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: This was not them just copying the the the new 348 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: American fad. No, no, no, this was actually a tradition 349 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: dating back to the fourteenth century. Pretty crazy, right, Yeah, 350 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: and also pretty sure that UM our original Uh college 351 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: boy did didn't know about that? It wasn't. It wasn't 352 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: some kind of like, you know, cultural appropriation, but who knows, 353 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: who knows? Uh, it's weird because back over the pond 354 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: in the US, there's the rise of an institution called 355 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: the Intercollegiate Goldfish gold Being Association. They were trying to 356 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: be the authoritative source for people reporting in the number 357 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: of fish they swallowed, and they started doing regulations. They 358 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: said the fish have to be three inches long, and 359 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: they have to be retained by the participants for at 360 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: least twelve hours. Since we're a family show, let's just 361 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: say what that means is that they can't put the 362 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: fish in their mouth and then spit it up right 363 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: or poop it out right. That would take a little longer, though. 364 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what that movement would look like? I'd 365 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: rather not? Okay, same, so sorry I even brought it up. Well, 366 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: you know, case he's making a disgusted face over there, 367 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: by the way, he should you should be disgusted. If 368 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: he were licking his lips, it would be worried. Casey, 369 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: you will joy this part because other people wanted to 370 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: get into the swallowing live animals game, but they wanted 371 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: to have their own twist on it. They didn't want 372 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: to just be uh guppies. Following the goldfish goal being heard, 373 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: So one guy, John Poopla writer, this is over the 374 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: line even for me, he swallowed five white mice. That 375 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: seems dangerous, doesn't it, The claws, the teeth. Yeah, it's 376 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: like some Richard gear Gerbil stuff right there. Yeah, it's 377 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: like some some like G. G Allen unwinding in the 378 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: green room stuff. No, thank you, I don't and again 379 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: not to mention that it's just absolutely cruel and inhumane. 380 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: You know, we think of fish is being you know, 381 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: not exactly as feeling and anthropomorphizable as uh, you know, mammals. 382 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: I guess, but I got your finding memo. I guess 383 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: it's been fishing, but anthropomorphies plenty. What am I talking about? 384 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: For some reason, it seems like people draw a line, 385 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, we can swallow goldfish all day long, 386 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: but not but not mammals. Yeah, so this really really 387 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: is over the line. You're right, then, well, it's to 388 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: each their own. I guess, but I I don't know. 389 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: Swallow a live mouse seems like maybe a survival situation, 390 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you're stuck and you're starving 391 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: and you have to eat something, then I can see it. 392 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: But doing it for fun because you're in college, that's 393 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: wild of the guys. Okay, at Gregg and State student 394 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: decided to swallow a hundred and thirty nine angle worms? 395 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: What is what is an angle worm? What do they 396 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: look like? What's their what's their thing? I'm assuming they 397 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: are angular? There we go. They're like a right the thing. 398 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: They're a right angle and I'm two single now, just 399 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: like regular worms. Pretty pretty underwhelming angle. Yeah, just looks 400 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: like an earthworm to me. I'm pulling up when as well. 401 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: Uh oh man, No, I would if I had to 402 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: do something like this again, which I don't and I 403 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: don't condone it. I know we have some teachers and 404 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: children listening to this show. Kids, if you're listening, no 405 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: one here is condoning swallowing live goldfish. Don't do it. 406 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: And I'm also sorry I told Vegan to suck it. 407 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Where we have made our peace, we have mayor a piece. 408 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: But we have also seen the tide turn on goldfish 409 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: gulping because people also did their own spins on on 410 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: the goldfish phenomenon. There was, for instance, a college student 411 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: back at Harvard who decided to instead of swallowing fish, 412 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: kissed them, and he kissed a hundred and thirty three fish. 413 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: It was it was kind of like a childish prank, 414 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: but the tide eventually turned, the sun eventually set on 415 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: the practice of eating goldfish while they were still alive. 416 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: And it had something to do with that bill that 417 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: we mentioned by Senator George crap Um, you know, the 418 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Preserving the Fish from cruel and wanton consumption. And then 419 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: this predecessor to like a Ethical Treatment of Animals organization 420 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: came into play animal rescue legion and the president of 421 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: Boston's Animal League even threatened legal action right like that, 422 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: several things going against them, and they really did as 423 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: they should have it. And And just a really quick aside, 424 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: I just want to point out that on Amazon you 425 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: can get angle worm um fishing bait kind of lures 426 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: sort of like you know, rubber or whatever. And the 427 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: brand or the name of the model, I guess the 428 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: companies called Berkeley. You'll never believe what it's called them. 429 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: It's called gulp exclamation mark. That's what you want the 430 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: fish to do, and I guess it is it is. Well, 431 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Boston's Animal League they said that if you were caught 432 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: swallowing goldfish on campus, you will be arrested. M hmm. 433 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: Interesting if if the campus officials don't step in and 434 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: stop this. So goldfish swallowing went underground, like with cock 435 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: fighting or fight club fight all that stuff. Yeah. Additionally, 436 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: the US public helcer Iss said that goldfish may contain 437 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: tape worms or harbor disease. Well, I would hope. So 438 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: these guys haven't coming, and so we see the demise 439 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: of the era, the end of the age of swallowing 440 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: goldfish but low through Withington Jr. Was known as a 441 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: goldfish swallower for the rest of his life, and he 442 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: didn't ever apologize for it. He made appearances on different 443 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: shows like to Tell the Truth, What's My Line? And 444 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: I've Got a Secret, and he lived a long, healthy life. 445 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: When he passed away at nineties six, he was still 446 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: driving around town and using his exercise bike, so it 447 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: wasn't fatal for him. Gave him some celebrity, though. I 448 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: don't think he needed the money. I'm just gonna say, 449 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he needed the ten bucks. Pretty sure 450 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: you're right there, I'm pretty sure you're right. So what's 451 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: the weirdest thing that you have ever eaten? Let us know. 452 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. I once 453 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: accidentally swallowed an entire lossenge with the rapper on and everything. 454 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: What happened? What happened? I didn't die, I didn't die. 455 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: What what flavor was the loss? It was a ricola? 456 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those were great, though, you had to choose one. Now, 457 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: when I say the entire rapper on, I mean you 458 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: know ricola has an outer wrapper and then it also 459 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: has a little piece of wax paper around. Yeah. Yeah, 460 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: that's what happened. Oh okay, Well you you could digest 461 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: that stuff, and you're supposed to swallow rico laws home, 462 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: and they're not like horse pills. You know, you're supposed 463 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: to suck on them so they can give you relief 464 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,479 Speaker 1: from Europe, you know, from what ails you from your 465 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: little your little cough. Maybe we're in a hurry. I 466 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: usually am. We're hurry. Uh. 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Is that 481 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: what you call this hanging out? It's more like getting 482 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: attacked in an alley. Just wait, listen you to, I've 483 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: got beef with both of you. What happened to your accent? Listen? Beef? 484 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: Beef supersedes accent affectation. My beef is that for too 485 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: long you guys have been doing your paper rock scissors, 486 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: which means you might as well flip a coin before 487 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I even say anything and just go with that, and 488 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: you'll be just as likely to get the right answer 489 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: or the wrong answer. That takes all the glee out 490 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: of victory and all the sting out defeats. So now 491 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: we have changed the game, gentlemen. Now you will be 492 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: presented with three short stories. You have to choose which 493 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: of the three is fake. So I will give you 494 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: three stories. We can just payper rock scissors for each 495 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: of them. Right, But then you're going to have to 496 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: decide if you get two that are right. So you 497 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: still it decreases your odds by by I don't have 498 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: time to get into statistical analysis. I love it. I'm 499 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: glad you thought about it. This is by far the 500 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: most diabolical thing you've done yet. Yes, well you know 501 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: it's one of my resolutions increase my diabolical nous. I 502 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: like that, lean into it to a strong start. Here 503 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: are your three scenarios, and of course we will start 504 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: the time. I will not be answering any questions so 505 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: that there'll be no need for any arbitrary rules. Wow, 506 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: you're serious, Okay, okay, I just want to hear you scramble. 507 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: So here are your three three scenarios. Now, if I 508 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: recall correctly, we're talking about swallowing goldfish. These are three 509 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: fisherman related stories, all three taking place in the distant 510 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: year of two thousand eighteen. March two thousand eighteen, a 511 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: fisherman near Siberia noticed something odd poking out of the 512 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: snow while walking along the shore. It was a human hand. 513 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: Upon further investigation, it turned out it wasn't just a 514 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: human hand, it was a whole bag of human hands, 515 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: fifty four of them in total. September two thousand eighteen, 516 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: an Irish fisherman pulled in his fishing nets and got 517 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: more than what he bargained for. Rather than a hall 518 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: of fishes, he discovered his net had captured the skull 519 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: and antlers of a giant Irish elk, an animal that 520 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: had gone extinct more than ten thousand years ago. November 521 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, a fisherman in Okinawa discovered something odd 522 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: in his nets that caused a bit of a stirred 523 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: a nearby American military base. It was an unexploded torpedo, 524 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: one that clearly belonged to the American military, but, according 525 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: to every manifest on the base, should have been sitting 526 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: safely in storage. Begin okay, I'm running for the clock, 527 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: and go okay, I'm not into this. And those are 528 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: all you know what I'm gonna give the You know, 529 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: every quisitor deserves his day, I'm gonna give him. Propsies 530 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: are all pretty well crafted. I think it's number one. 531 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: I think it's number one. Well, my only thing my 532 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: number was he here. Here's the reason why I do 533 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: think it's number one. You why do you think it's fake? 534 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: Are you think the number one's fake? Yeah, we're supposed 535 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: to find the one that's face. I know. I'll tell 536 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: you why. I's okay. And this is why you think 537 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: it's true. I think it's true because there's a detail 538 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: in it that doesn't make sense. Uh that that the 539 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan is is excuse me for giving them a compliment 540 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: too smart to have missed. Why would a hand be 541 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: sticking up if it was a bag of hands. Why 542 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't they have discovered a bag right unless the bag 543 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: was overflowing? This is this is interesting because we're getting 544 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: into the Quister psychology a little bit now, because if 545 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: you think about it in the past, when do you 546 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: like how we're talking like you're not actually here with 547 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: his arms crossed? Ah? God, that was a question, alright, fine, 548 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: leave it in. No casey leave it in. So when 549 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Jonathan was creating fake stories in the past, he would 550 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: tend to no offense. Here, he would tend to add 551 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: more details than were necessary to flesh out the credibilities. 552 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Fatal flaw, so the fact, But but did he anticipate 553 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: us knowing that, because we've all all four of us 554 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: have talked about that before. So clearly you can't choose 555 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: the cup in front of you, right, yeah? Is that 556 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: a princess? You can't ask me any questions? No? Okay, sorry, 557 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: it's weird that we can't ask you questions. But but 558 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: you're leading. Hold on a second, there's still away for 559 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: us to rock paper sisn't we can just rock paper 560 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: scissors to weather. We're gonna choose one as being fair, right, right, 561 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: But then let's say that you agree on two of them. 562 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Does that mean the third one out is the fake? Will? Well? 563 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: I see? So okay, okay, it complicates it slightly, but 564 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: not not that. Let's let's shift to Let's shift to 565 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: the other two stories. So the second story is about 566 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: that skull and antlers of a giant elk that went 567 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: extinct ten thousand years ago, and that would bet would 568 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: there be a fully intact it would be fossilized somewhere, 569 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: it would be buried. We wouldn't just have that sitting 570 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: on the seafloor. Erosion and things would have buried it. 571 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: It wouldn't just get dug up. So that's what's that's 572 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: what's persuading me that maybe number two is the answer. 573 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: Number three. I'm gonna see. That seems legit. It seems 574 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: like that actually happened, because there there's military grade weaponry 575 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: off the coast of Savannah right now. You know. The 576 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: detail of that it should have been safely in storage 577 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: is interesting. But I don't know, Ben, I tend to 578 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: go with the I think, yeah, I'm thinking to all right, 579 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: we're locked in it. In two twenty games quiz to 580 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: one you chumps zero. That was a completely true story. 581 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: It really did have Yes Irish fisherman actually did pulling 582 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: his nets. He thought at first that it was a log. 583 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Realized then it was a skull of an Irish elk. 584 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: Was a bag of hands that was fake. Bag of 585 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: hands was also true, the one that you were because 586 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: the one we thought that only counts as one. I know, 587 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: I know, but I'm I'm enjoying it anyway. You know, 588 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: I can't even be meld And I gotta say, I 589 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: like this new way. I like this new Methodist the 590 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: hands thing. By the way, everyone was scared that it 591 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: was perhaps some sort of hand seeking psychopathic killer kiss. 592 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: But it was not. It turns out that it was 593 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: a forensic slap that had misplaced a bag of hands. 594 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: As you do, you know they got away. I mean, 595 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: it's like red handed, there's a bag of hands is 596 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: falling sparrow of the forensic world. Indeed, can't keep your 597 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: eye indeed, so so, yes, well, well played. Unfortunately you 598 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: came up short this time. But who knows what next 599 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: time we'll bring. I mean, I do, I've got it 600 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: written right in front of me, but we're not ready 601 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: to do that one yet. I can just I can 602 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: feel the smugness emanating. It's pretty good, comes off like 603 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: stink lines in a cartoon. But now, when you get 604 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: them right, and you will when you get them right, uh, 605 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: it is going to hurt so much more when you 606 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: get them well. Okay, first, hang on, man, I played 607 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: games with children before, and that's how I talked to 608 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: children when I'm playing games, like, hey, buddy, when you win, 609 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: imagine how cool that'll be. Keep playing. Congratulations, Ben, your 610 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: resolution to get a little bit more into the psyche 611 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: of Jonathan has somewhat paid off. I also, like, I 612 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: want to say, the the legalistic into d Emmy is 613 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: noting that you officially reset our score. So it's one zero. 614 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: Now wait a minute, so where do we where did 615 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: we shake out one behind? Got real close? Well, that's 616 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's endearing, right, I think so, I think. 617 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: So we're not in it to win it or just 618 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: in it for fun. That's so we tell ourselves when 619 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: we lose, well and to be there. These three were 620 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: very odd stories, and they were all very recent, but 621 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: they had to do with things from the past. I'm 622 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: just so impressed that the Okinawa story completely got past this. Well, 623 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: that was the one that, like we both agree, seemed 624 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: pretty legit. So again, you know, um, not to belittle 625 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: my seething hatred for you, but I do commend you 626 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: for for this this round. Thank you. Oh. I want 627 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: to give you one more insight, just so that you 628 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: know this going in, because I know that's going to 629 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: come up. You're going to sit there and say, well, 630 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: he chose three last time, so why would he put 631 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: it in the third place. I am going to put 632 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: these in chronological order every single week, so if you 633 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: had noticed in that case, it was March, September November, 634 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: so it will always be in chronological order. Of story 635 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: that will determine which one you know. Whenever you guess 636 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: which one's fake, it's not. I've decided to try and 637 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: full will you by putting it in position two instead 638 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: of position one based on the year or the month 639 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, you were definitely I've always respected that 640 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: if we were D and D characters, you would be lawful. 641 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: Even that's very rules are very important, and you really 642 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: have given this some thought and I can't. I can't 643 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: hold that against you, so be grudging thanks to Jonathan Strickland, 644 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: the Notorious Quister. Anyway, I want everyone to know how 645 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: slowly clapping, because you could definitely clap slower than that. 646 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Come on, we all know it was a matter of 647 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: time before Benny gave me the Claph Family show. Yes, 648 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: thanks thanks to Jonathan Strickland, the Quister. Thanks to super 649 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: producer Casey Peg. That's true. Alex Williams, a composed our 650 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: theme research associated Gabe Loser. Christopher Hasciota is here in 651 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: spirit as always, eaves Jeff Coach. Check out her shows 652 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: um this day in History class. But I do believe 653 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: we're going to be guesting on at some point in 654 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: the near future. And also solution sessions, the Afro pun Podcast, 655 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: which is really great. Yeah, it's fantastic. Thanks, of course 656 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: to all the brave, innocent goldfish who in a way 657 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: gave their lives so that we can make this show. 658 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: And uh no, thanks to you. Thanks to you, Buddy 659 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: Happy tow here. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, 660 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 661 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.