1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody, Merry Christmas. It is Thursday, December twenty fifth, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: and we hope you are enjoying time with your family. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Although this is a time where you get family on steroids. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: A lot of time maybe with your close family members, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: but also with your extended family and maybe some of 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: their friends and neighbors. And there's a lot of small talk, 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: a lot of catching up to do. Sometimes things can 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: get awkward. Sometimes you can get into conversations you would 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: like to get out of. Well, we have some tips 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: so you can avoid some of that awkward small talk 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: and actually enjoy the conversations. It begins, though, teach with 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: being ready to be a topic manager, a topic manager. 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: You have to go into your own family with a plan. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: That's okay. First of all, that's a problem with a 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: you call it what a a say again, a topic 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: manager topic manager. 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: There's saying you should be prepared to be a topic 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: manager if the family correct, correct, because if you have 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: topics ready to divert to, if you've actually prepared slightly 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: before you walk into this family party. Look between now 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Christmas Day and New Year's Day, it is almost certain 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: most of you listening will be in some sort of 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: family function, some sort of extended family function, or a 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: party of some sort where you don't know everybody that well, 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: or you're trying to catch up and you know that 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: moment where people start talking politics, or they start gossiping, 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: or there's just those weird You've been in these conversations 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: with long pauses. People are nervously laughing, people are looking around, 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: they don't know what to say next. Have you ever 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: been in like a combo like that? You know me, 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: You're you're a topic manager without even realizing it. Yeah, yeah, okay, 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: So the experts I actually went to several different sources 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: to try and find some tips on how to have 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a wonderful conversation no matter who you're talking with, no 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: matter where you are, and for how long. Their first 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: piece of advice be confident, jump in and change the subject. 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: They say research has found people who switch topics frequently, 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: and they say even once every minute had more satisfying conversations. 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Switch conversation is just conversation. I get what we're saying here, 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean other people have I mean a 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: lot of people do have this difficulty. But it sounded 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: like you were saying, like in the middle of a 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: conversation going on that's not going well, you just jump 44 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: in and say, hey, let's talk about something else. 45 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Yes, And you want to know how you do that? 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: The first good subject to try when you're switching the 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: conversation if things get awkward or things get uncomfortable. The 48 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: best questions or topic starters invite people to talk about 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: what they love, whether that's food, movies, pets. But you 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: turn the topic to them, and usually that brightens up 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the mood right away, because people's favorite subject is almost 52 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: always themselves. 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see me sit back and do this day 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: and day out and let people talk about themselves and 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: I listen, I'm paying attention, and really it can. It 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: changes people's moods. Don't just do it. You listen to them, 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: You ask a follow up about something they say, and 58 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: it really you should use that tool throughout your life. 59 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Just look somebody in the eye and listen and pay 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: attention and ask about them. She shows you care. 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not about being manipulative, it's not about 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: avoiding it really is. It works in multiple ways because 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: not only does it keep the conversation going, it keeps 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: things moving along and less awkward, but people do feel 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: that sense of fellowship that wow, this person does care 66 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: about me and care about my life. It's not just 67 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: how you're doing. That's the worst thing they say. You 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: can ask how are you doing? Because everyone, almost everyone 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: is going to say fine, and if they say something 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: like not so great, it's a big wanmp wall. So 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: you should never say how are you doing? You should 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: say something like, you know, what is your daughter up 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: to these days? Or have you seen any good movie lately? Man? 74 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: They've been all flops onl end whatever. So you're inviting 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: them to share a specific story about their life. 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: And it helps if you if you know a little 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: bit about what's going on. Again, to your point, you 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: just say how you're doing, You give somebody an opportunity 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: to well go a bunch of directions. But if you 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: you know something's going on with them, maybe they've got 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: a promotion at work, maybe they're maybe their college team 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: is in the college football playoff? Right, if you directed, 83 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: that is one that's always a go to. Yes, sports. 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Look, we have been in so many mixed like 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: mixed company, like we've been traveling around the country and 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: we've been with your folks and my folks. But it's 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: been cool. You even pointed out so many folks in Arkansas. 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: The first thing they say, how are your dog? Like? 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Can't how are you feeling about your dogs? Like? Just 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: getting specific and sweet, but a cute, wonderful thing to 91 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: know that they care, They know a little nugget about you, 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: and they invite a really wonderful Yeah. It does make 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: you feel good. It absolutely makes you feel good to 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: hear that. 95 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: All right. 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Number three, you just touched on it. This is the 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: piece of advice. It seems obvious, but this is really important. 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: Make once you've asked all these questions and you're engaged, 99 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: make sure you're actually listening to their responses. And I 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: have had to try to focus on this more. And 101 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: research shows during a conversation, your mind wanders nearly a 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: quarter of the time, So twenty five percent of the 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: time while someone else is talking, your mind is wandering. 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you're thinking about your life, maybe you're thinking about 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: what the next thing is. You might want to ask them, 106 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: but you're not listening. And I know that I have 107 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: gotten caught doing this where you actually find yourself wandering. 108 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: So they actually give you tips on how to practice 109 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: what they call responsive listening. 110 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what that might mean. Okay, well this 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: is this is a big, big deal and I love 112 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: that they're giving this advice and we are sharing it here. 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: But this should apply to your life every single day. 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: It is the I don't know what you know? I 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: got it, now gonna say right, I got I learned 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: this early on. 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: Now I want to know where you got it. 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: It was a trick I learned from a politician because 119 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: I was so impressed by this particular politician that it 120 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how big of a room he was in. 121 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: When he's talking to you, you feel like you are 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: the most important person on planet Earth to this important person. 123 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: And I studied and I paid attention to that, and 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: I always wanted to be like that. You can change 125 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: somebody's day and move. I told you about the woman 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: in FedEx yesterday. What she was in an awful being 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: a cold just every time. Who knows what was going on. 128 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: And I was relentless in being nice to her and 129 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: looking at her in the eye, asking her about her day. 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: She was wearing an elf outfit, she was in angry elf. 131 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: By the end of it, she was the happiest Elf 132 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: you've ever seen. It changed her mood by somebody being 133 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: interested in asking questions. Man, I beg everybody to do this. 134 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: When people are talking, grab a nugget in there and 135 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: follow up on it and they'll go, wow, they were 136 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: paying attention. 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you just hit it. Okay, So and look, 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: this is something to your point that you should You 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: can learn now as you're walking into some of these parties, 140 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: but take with you every day of your life. Here 141 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: is what responsive listening is. Use a verbal response. It 142 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: could be a joke, but it needs to build on 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: something that person just said. You can paraphrase what they 144 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: said before you move on, but a verbal confirmation, even 145 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: of exactly just letting them know I heard what you 146 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: just said, and then a follow up question from what 147 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: they just said shows you're paying attention. So you may 148 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: have something you want to add, Oh my, this is 149 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: my problem, and I think a lot of people have this. 150 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: You want to relate, right, you're like, oh my god, 151 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: that happened to me, or but what ends up being 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: received is you've just changed the subject back to yourself. 153 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: And that is something I have had to catch myself 154 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: doing and I have to say no instead of me 155 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: saying how it relates back to me, go ahead and 156 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: ask a follow up about what they just said. So get. 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: We say this all the time, GET and I have 158 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: to constantly remind myself this is a muscle you have 159 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: to flex to build. But hopefully it then becomes second 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: nature because you are genuinely interested in that person. But 161 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: instead of getting going back to yourself or maybe getting 162 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: a ask a follow up, get curious, ask another question, 163 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: let them know you heard that. 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: You know. Sometimes and this is not manipulative, but it 165 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: does help its people. You don't have to stop the 166 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: conversation and ask a full question. If somebody's talking and 167 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: they're talking about their friend and then she was out 168 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: at that and a oh the one from last year. Okay, 169 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: go ahead, like you get some clarity and something they're saying. 170 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: It shows that you're paying attention to every little nugget 171 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: that they're saying, and it oh, you just engage. I 172 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: love this is great. We should do this one in 173 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: a separate episode. But yes, I love, love love that 174 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: this could possibly help you at Christmas dinner, at. 175 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: Christmas dinner and in life, in everything you do. I 176 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: think it's so cool. All right, So when we come 177 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: back I'm really excited about this. They actually have I 178 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: had to go to a couple different places to find 179 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: some suggested Christmas icebreakers if you're nervous about Okay, I 180 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: don't even know how to start this conversation or what 181 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: to say when I walk up to somebody I don't 182 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: know that Well, they actually have a list of some 183 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: suggested Christmas icebreakers when you're in the holiday mode of 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: being at some family gathering. So we're gonna I'm gonna 185 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: ask you some of them, babe, and see how our 186 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: conversation goes when we come back and welcome back everyone 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: to this Christmas edition of Amy and TJ. And we 188 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: assume most of you have been spending a lot of 189 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: time with family, extended family, friends, going to parties, and 190 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's going to continue from this day all 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: the way to New Year's. But we have some actual 192 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: fun Christmas icebreakers that were suggested for folks who might 193 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: feel a little nervous or a little shy about being 194 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: that bold person who jumps in and starts a conversation 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: or at least directs a conversation when it starts to 196 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: get awkward or strange. So I am going to try 197 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: them out on you, babe and see how it works. 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: You're trying out the some. 199 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Of the Christmas icebreakers. Yeah, like we can just kind 200 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: of role play here, like we're in a conversation. I 201 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: don't know you that well. You know, we're meeting up 202 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: again after being not having seen each other for a while, 203 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: so you know, just we're talking. 204 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm still weird Christmas dinner? Yeah, yeah, okay, 205 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: and we are we related. 206 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Well whatever, We're just you know, we're loosely acquainted. 207 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: Loosely acquainted, okay, not that close. Yeah, okay. 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to ask some of these questions if 209 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: we knew each other intimately, all right, because that's not 210 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: what this is for. This is for people who you 211 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: kind of know, all right, all right, So so do 212 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: I respond, Yeah, sure, I'd love to hear you. You 213 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: could just keep it quick so you know, it's so funny, 214 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, the holidays bring back so many memories. Do 215 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: you remember your first your what's your first holiday memory? 216 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: And so I should just answer that, yeah, my first 217 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 2: holiday memory, I don't know, but the ones that always 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: stick with me I Granddad's house and him sitting in 219 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: the chair and I was getting the gifts as kids, 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: and he's just holding court. That's what I remember most 221 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: from my Christmases as a child. 222 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Okay, and so I'm gonna move on. But normally I 223 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: would follow up with that guy's based on what we 224 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: were just suggesting. Everyone. Okay, Oh my gosh, everyone has 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: a funny story about this. I want to hear yours. 226 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: When was the first moment or woul do you remember 227 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: when you first learned that Santa doesn't exist? 228 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, apparently you should keep your voice down, and 229 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: that's bullshit. We have kids in the in the house here. 230 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Can we take this outside? 231 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: All right? That's funny, but you don't have you don't 232 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: have a memory, by the way, uh, when you first learned? 233 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: I still believe in Santa. Oh okay, that is not 234 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: a joke. I have always, for whatever reason, as a kid, 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: understood the fantasy of it. And you gotta believe in something. 236 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: You gotta believe in something, and I absolutely do. I 237 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: am I don't even have a chimney here. Obviously nobody's 238 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: coming down the chimney. I get that, but there's something 239 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: I always embrace about that fantay. You have to believe 240 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: in magic, at some point in your life. 241 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: That's really cool. I don't know how you're gonna answer 242 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: this one, but hey, so all right, everybody's got their 243 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: favorite Christmas food, et cetera. Do you have a favorite 244 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: Christmas cookie? 245 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: I think probably just sugar cookies. I would have to 246 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: go with sugar cookies. But if I was making something percent, 247 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: I would make oatmeal raisin because that's my favorite cookie. 248 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: What's the place of love? 249 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh? I can't remember the name of it because I 250 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: try to avoid it all costs. Yes, that is the 251 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: name of it. Money face places are amazing. 252 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: Oatmeal raisin. We might need to go over that. 253 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: We do share a love of oatmeal raisin cookies. Not Christmas, 254 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: thank God, because we would probably do it. You're like, 255 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: it's Christmas, we should just you know, treat ourselves. This 256 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: is an interesting one. Just this. I love this as 257 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: a conversation starter. Tell me what the best present was 258 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: that you ever got the best present? 259 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: Okay? I think I got a Nintendo one year. 260 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Isn't it funny what you remember? 261 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 2: I don't remember Christmas gifts. I don't. I'm trying to 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: think of some mage as a thing. Obviously, you and 263 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: I have recent years when I'm trying to think back, 264 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: usually it's. 265 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: A childhood gets because it had such an emotional impact 266 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: on you. 267 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: Can I think I got castle a gray skull one 268 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: year you. 269 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: Said Nintendo though, that's that's the first thing that came 270 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: to your mind. So that's interesting. And also the fact 271 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: that you don't remember all of your gifts. We could 272 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: have done a whole episode on that, because that's the truth. 273 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: We put so much effort, we get so stressed out 274 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: about what gifts we choose, and then most of the 275 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: time nobody remembers them anyway. All right, If you could 276 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: spend the holidays in any location, where would it be? 277 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: I think in a snowy New York. 278 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: Wow, the day Christmas Day that was last year. 279 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to be I want to be home. I'm 280 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: going to be close to home. I want to be 281 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: in my living room. I want the kids to wake up. 282 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: I want to I want that whole feeling in the morning. 283 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: After that we can bounce to warmer clients. But there's 284 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: something about the kids got to wake up Christmas morning 285 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: at home. 286 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: That's very cool. I love that. Here's kind of a 287 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: random thought starter. Would you rather eat a candy cane 288 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: that tastes like a turkey, or a turkey that tastes 289 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: like a candy cane. 290 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to find somebody I'll say Christmas to talk 291 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: to and he don't ask that question. 292 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that one flopped. This one might flop too, which 293 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: is Scrooge's Ghosts was the most effective. 294 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Scrooge's Ghosts. 295 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: You don't even know Christmas Carol, the movie There's the 296 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Ghost of Christmas, past, past, present, future, there's Yeah, There's 297 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: the Ghost of Christmas. 298 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Was most effective. 299 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 300 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: I haven't seen the movie in forty years, so you know, 301 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gona have to get back to you. 302 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Scratch scratch that one. Okay, those last two felt a 303 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: little forced. Yeah, anyway, these were some of the lists. 304 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that that conversation went well. It 305 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: was fun. I actually learned a few things about you. 306 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: So if you can kind of keep some of those 307 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: in your back pocket, just those are the ideas where 308 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: you get specific. You ask somebody about something in their life. 309 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: It's thought provoking, and it creates a conversation that's in 310 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: enjoyable and interesting, and you learn something about the person 311 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: you're standing next. 312 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: Nothing offensive in those and you you did all those first. 313 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: I didn't think about them at all. I had to 314 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: give some thought and thinking back to other Christmas memories 315 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: that we're fun. Yes, those are actually affective. We should 316 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: list those? Possibly aren't those? 317 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Yes? Those are cool? Because also, did you feel like 318 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: someone actually was interested in you beyond just the superficial. 319 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: Well, sitting across from you, I always feel cared for 320 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: and seeing you. 321 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Aw, thanks Fabe, I appreciate that. But anyway, we're hoping 322 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: that this not only helps you during this holiday season, 323 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: this week where everybody's in and out of your lives 324 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: and people you haven't seen in a while. Perhaps, but 325 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: maybe this is something you can take with you three 326 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days a year. But we hope 327 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: you all have a merry, merry Christmas. Thank you for 328 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: listening to us. As always, I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. 329 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon.