1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are board to training camp in the next 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. One of the biggest competition question marks 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: before things kick off. Which position battles are peaking our interests? 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Zak Gershman and I break it all down. It's Cardinals 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Cover two episode nine hundred, and it starts now. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: so more hurry magic. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Danny Sirek. 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Training camp is knocking at the door, just hours away 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: from players reporting to training camp. Plenty to discuss still 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover too, Zach Gershman, I'm Danny Surrek 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: filling in for Craig Grilu. Who is I guess just 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: taking a last day of vacation. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: ZAC On episode nine hundred he was willing to not 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: be here. I mean, look, life is life. I understand that, 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: but they you know, they brought in the the top 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: tier talent you know, right before training camp began. They 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: just want to get into the into the mood here 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: on Cardinals Cover two. 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to argue with that one. Okay, 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, how ready are you feeling 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: for training camp after the offseason. 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: We've had, I would probably say eleven and a half. 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: It's fair. 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: I just I'm so ready. We've talked so much, and 31 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: it's no longer about like speculation about like what could be. 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: We know what can be with this team. We know 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: the potential that they do have. It's the position battles 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: that we're going to be spending this entire segment, this 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: entire Cardinals Cover two discussing that I'm most looking forward to. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: But it's no longer the hypotheticals. It's no longer the 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: what are the expectations? You know what the expectations are 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: and there to be playing football in January and hosting 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: games at State Farm Stadium. 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: It's officially football time. Cardinals report to training camp Tuesday, 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: July twenty second. The first open practice to Cardinals fans Thursday, 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: July twenty fourth. You do need a ticket and parking passes. 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Both those are free, so you can check those out 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: on Easycardinals dot com. A lot of competition on defense, 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: that's what we're going to talk about first here on 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. The D line has a very different 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: level of competition than a lot of other positions on defense, 48 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: mostly because it's filled with veterans. You've got some young 49 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: players sprinkling there, right, Dante Stills, Darius Robinson, rookie walternle 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: in the third. But when we're talking about the competition 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: and D line room, it's how is the rotation going 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: to shake out when you start to look back on 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the defense and we're working your way back to some 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: other positions. Cornerbacks is another position that has a lot 55 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: of competition, and it's different than D line. It's a 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: lot of young players. Garrett Williams is one of your 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: most experienced and he's going into year three. Didn't even 58 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: play the first half of his rookie year because he 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: was rehabbing a knee injury. So when you're looking at 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: the opportunities in that cornerback's room, what opportunities are there 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: for those younger players behind Williams and Max Melton and 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Starling Thomas. 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: See it's funny when Sean Murphy Bunting was signed the 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: last offseason and he came in and he was twenty 65 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: seven years old, and their entire conversation surrounding SMB was 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: he's the quote unquote young old veteran in the room 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: because he was the oldest guy and the most experienced 68 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: guy in the room. Now you look at Garrett Williams 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: and Starling Thomas and they are the young young old 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: guy in that room just in terms of their veteran experience, 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: only three years in the league. And Garrett Williams I 72 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: asked him about it during his media availability during the 73 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: offseason about how he has taken on that leadership role 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: and he was saying, how just by experience, a lot 75 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: of the guys are going to start coming up to 76 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: you asking you questions and things of that nature. But 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: with Gary Williams out there, you know what he brings 78 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: to table. He's a top five cornerback in this league. 79 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: I know PFAF rated him very high in terms of 80 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: their zone coverage, but you hit on it. It all 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: starts at the defensive line and the reinforcements that Mani 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: austin Ford has added with Kalays Campbell, Dalvin Tomlinson once 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: again going into the draft back to back years with 84 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: the first rounder. In that defensive front seven. It's important 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: and that's only going to benefit guys like Garrett Williams, 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: Starling Thomas Max Melin who are trying to get their 87 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: hands on the football because when you're able to generate 88 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: that pressure at the line of scrimmage, it allows your 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: cornerbacks to focus a little bit more and it's going 90 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: to force quarterbacks to throw it up. 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: When we talk about competition, we're talking about outside corner, 92 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: because even though Williams has the experience and the ability 93 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: to play outside, why would you mess something that's not broken, 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: that's actually working quite well having Williams as your slot corner. 95 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: When he was talking with the media, he was saying, 96 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: going to year three, you know he's used to being 97 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: the player who flies under the radar a bit, right, 98 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: Unless you are really engrossed in Cardinals football, that might 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: not be one of the top names you think of, 100 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: just because you have other star powers on this defense 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: who have been around for a long time, like a 102 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, likea Jalen Thompson. This is going to continue. 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I think last year was a breakout year for Williams, 104 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: and I think he is only a sending given what 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: he has been showing on the field night to think 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: he's going to become a household name this season. What 107 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: stood out to you from what Williams had to stay 108 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: in his presser? 109 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: I love how he was talking about how since his 110 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: entire career he's been one of those guys that has 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: been under the radar. I mean, he goes to Sarahcuse 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: plays in the acc obviously was dealing with the injury 113 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: slides in the draft, falls to the third round, and 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: the Cardinals were willing to take a flyer on an 115 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: injured cornerback and we're waiting to see what they got 116 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: out of him, and what they got out of him 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: is a diamond in the rough because not a lot 118 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: of people, I think we're expecting for Garrett Williams to 119 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: be the type of slot cornerback that he has become 120 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: one of the best in the game. I know in 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 3: a lot of conversations when you're looking at zone coverage cornerbacks, 122 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: it's him and it's Patricks certained that are going to 123 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: be at the top of the list. But you mentioned 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: him mostly being in the slot and not being on 125 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: the outside at all. He only played ten snaps as 126 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: an outside cornerback throughout the twenty twenty four season, four 127 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty six STAPs were in the slot. So 128 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: even though he doesn't have as many starts under his 129 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: belt because he wasn't out there for the first play 130 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: depending on the type of nickel coverage that the Cardinals 131 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: were going to use, he still has a lot of 132 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: experience and a lot of defensive snaps under his belt. 133 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: But he has shown, you know, how dominant he can be. 134 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: He's a soft spoken guy, but I think back to 135 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: that game against the Washington Commanders when he leaps up 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: and makes a jaw dropping type of interception against Jayden Daniels, 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: the first cornerback to pick Jaden Daniels in his very 138 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: dominant rookie campaign, and you were able to see just 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: how he's able to read the defense. Yes, Buddha Baker 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: is the guy when the Cardinals defense, but down the line, 141 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: Garrett Williams has that ability to take over that role. 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: A very high football IQ. The cornerbacks the outside corners 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: competition is going to be intriguing because Melton and Thomas 144 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: looked good last season, both of them getting more reps 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: as the season went on, valuable reps and especially not 146 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: having SMB all year, you would think maybe, okay, those 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: are the veterans right as close to being locked in 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: as it could. There's a lot of competition in that 149 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: room in a very good way, and will Johnson, the rookie, 150 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: is a big name to keep an eye on. Johnson 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: was limited throughout mandatory Mini camp. He was still out 152 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: there practicing in some capacity with the team. Head coach 153 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon said Johnson was dealing with a little bit 154 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: of a tight hamstring. So we'll see as we get 155 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: into camp where Johnson is in that recovery process and 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: how active he's able to be. What's nice, though, is 157 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: even if Johnson has the ability and he's mentally ready 158 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: to go out there and be a starter week one, 159 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: or even not start but see a good amount of reps, 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: there's no pressure on him to have to be a 161 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: starter week one as a Day two draft pick, because 162 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: you know what you have in Melton and Thomas. 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: And we saw too with Garrett Williams how the Cardinals 164 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: were able to bring a cornerback with a knee injury 165 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: back into the mix of things and slowly ease his 166 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: way into it. I know Will Johnson said he is. 167 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: He's fully healthy. One other note, obviously, a lot of 168 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: second round rookies are getting their contracts signed because of 169 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: all the guaranteed money that happened with the Houston Texans 170 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: and the Cleveland Browns with their with their second round picks. 171 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: I'm expecting Will Johnson to have his signed at some 172 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: point in the coming days, if not already by the 173 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: time that people are listening to this audio recording as 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: they're getting ready for training camp. But yeah, Will Johnson 175 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: is definitely a name that a lot of people are 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: going to have to look at. There's a reason why 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: he was an All American talent. Three pick sixes during 178 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: his time at Michigan during that twenty twenty three season, 179 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: did not allow a single touchdown. It's only allowed two 180 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: touchdowns in his entire career UH with the Michigan Wolverine. 181 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: So he's going to be a player that will make 182 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: an impact for the Cardinals. But you look at the 183 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: depth as you discussed, obviously it's going to be a 184 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: competition all around. Starling Thomas has the most amount of 185 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: starts for all the cornerbacks, which twenty two. No other 186 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: player that's been an undrafted rookie since twenty twenty three 187 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: has had more starts in the NFL than Starling Thomas 188 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: at twenty two. Then you also look at Max Mellen. 189 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: You mentioned those reps that he earned when SMB was 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: out dealing with his injury. He also has a handful 191 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: of starts. But then you look at fifth round rookie 192 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: Denzel Burke, another cornerback that's coming into the mix. He's 193 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: going to be somebody that I think this coaching staff 194 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: is very high on. What about Kee Troll Clark? How 195 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: has he developed from year two to year three? He 196 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: didn't play terribly much last year, but there's a reason 197 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: why these guys are still in the building. So that 198 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: cornerback depth is going to be definitely something to look 199 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: at for the competition. 200 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: You also have Jadon Davis. You have Elijah Jones, who 201 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: is a big question mark missed his entire rookie season 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: last year dealing with a foot injury. When you look 203 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: at him physically, he's got the attributes. He is tall, 204 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: he's lanky, right, so he has the attributes that this 205 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: staff likes in the cornerbacks room, what do you have 206 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: from him? And you can only see so much throughout 207 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: this point in the offseason. It really is you gotta 208 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: wait till pads come on, because, as the coaching staff 209 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: has said, that's when players either shine they get lost. 210 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: And I think with Elijah Jones, first team All acc 211 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: during his time at Boston College, another guy that the 212 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: Cardinals drafted ninetieth overall in the third round, And we 213 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: discussed about this all the time whenever we bring up 214 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 3: Elijah Jones his off the field tangibles or remind this 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: coaching staff a lot of Garrett Williams, just his studying habits, 216 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: the way he was asking questions during their combine interviews. 217 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 3: Now he was dealing with that lower leg injury. He 218 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: was out on the practice field during OTAs and during 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: rookie and then during Mini camp, which is important. It's 220 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: good to see number twenty eight out there on the field, 221 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, Danny, whenever they put the pads on, 222 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: that's when you're gonna be able to really see what 223 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 3: those one on one matchups between him and Michael Wilson. 224 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: Him lining up across from Marvin Harrison Junior is a Jones, 225 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: whoever it is. You want to be able to see 226 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: what you got from some of your outside cornerbacks, because 227 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: you know what you have in Starling Thomas, you know 228 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: what you have in Maximelan, and you obviously know what 229 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: you have with Garrett Williams. I think the two players 230 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: that this coaching staff is gonna have locked eyes on 231 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: is gonna be Will John and Elijah Jones. 232 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: We're getting to the point where it's also a numbers game. 233 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: So not only are these cornerbacks in this specific scenario 234 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: having to compete with the players in their room, you're 235 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: also happy to compete with everybody else on the field. 236 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Because if this d line is as stacked as we 237 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: are expecting it to be and playing as well as 238 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: they are at least throughout training, practicing, throughout camp, and 239 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason games, there's a chance that this coaching 240 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: staff decides to go from sixty linemen on the active 241 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: roster the final fifty three up to seven. Well, that 242 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: number's got to come from somewhere. So we're getting into 243 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: the point where it's a numbers game. You're not just 244 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: going out there and fighting for a spot in your room. 245 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: You're fighting for a spot on this team. 246 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: You think about it in a lot of ways when 247 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: maybe in the past two seasons, in JG's first two 248 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: seasons with the Cardinals, you could, you know, pencil in 249 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: about out of the fifty three, you could probably pencil 250 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: in forty eight forty nine of them. Now that's not 251 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: the case. You might be able to pencil in thirty 252 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: eight forty of them and then that remaining third team 253 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: because of the numbers game. And we'd make the comment 254 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: all the time about you know, putting on our GM's cap, 255 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: and like, thankfully we're not the ones that need to 256 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: do it. But what does this mean for guys like 257 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: Dante Stills? What does this mean for guys like L. J. Collier? 258 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: Because if you want to have a loaded defensive line room, 259 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, where are you taking that away from? 260 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: You will get the inside linebacker room. In most cases. 261 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: The last year, the Cardinals had four or five guys 262 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: on the active roster in that inside linebacker room because 263 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: you had Kaizer White, Mac Wilson, Owen, Papo, Chris Barnes. 264 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: Then Vai Jones came in in the back end of 265 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: the season. So you have a lot of guys that 266 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: are in that room that you could possibly move around, 267 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: But are you willing to move a guy like Owen 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: Papo and potentially risk if you think, if you think 269 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: he might not make it onto the fifty three making 270 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: him on the practice squad because you're risking letting these 271 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: guys go and get picked up by other teams. And 272 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: Owen is just an example. Obviously, I'm not saying anything 273 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: because he is another candidate that could compete for that 274 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: green dot role. But that's my point though. Owen Papo 275 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: was a guy that kind of flew under the race, 276 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: was a guy that was a special team's ace, and 277 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: that's typically where he was used last year. But where 278 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: does he lie this year? The numbers game is going 279 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: to be fascinating. 280 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Regardless who is out there in the cornerback's room. Interceptions 281 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: is an emphasis. That was something Garrett Williams was talking 282 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: about when he spoke with the media. In twenty twenty four, 283 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense recorded just nine interceptions, which was tied for 284 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: twenty fourth in the league. That's an emphasis, and that's 285 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: a number that those dbs want to increase this year. 286 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: And when you've got a beefed up defensive line, that's 287 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna maybe get their hands on some battered balls, put 288 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: some pressure on the QB, force that ball out of 289 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: their hands quickly. That is very feasible to raise that number, 290 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: And honestly, that is important to this defense when you're 291 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: looking from last year and you're trying to find improvements 292 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and if you want to find a number and something 293 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: that can change the game and interception turning the ball 294 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: over is one of those key opportunities. 295 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: Roy Lopez was kind of that one guy that was 296 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 3: able to get his hand up and bat away a 297 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: couple footballs. Now you have the king of batted balls 298 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 3: and kalay Is Campbell, it's six foot eight on your 299 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: defensive line. And then obviously as your nose guard with 300 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: Dalvin Thomlinson right there as your zero technique, your one technique, 301 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are going to get a lot more pressure. 302 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: They're going to generate a lot more pressure. Regardless if 303 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: there is a step down from some of these guys 304 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: because they're getting a little bit older in their careers, 305 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that it's going to be I think, 306 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: no matter what, it's going to be a step up 307 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: compared to the previous handful of seasons. Just because of 308 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: the crop of talent, Kalaeis Campbell is still playing at 309 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: a very high rate, at a very successful rate, even 310 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: if he's only playing those thirty thirty five snaps. You 311 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: know what you're getting out of out of Big number 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: ninety three. But because of them being able to generate 313 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: that pressure up the middle, it's going to force the 314 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: quarterbacks to throw the ball away. And that's when you're 315 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: expecting the natural abilities from these guys like Max Melan, 316 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: like Gary Williams to go up and make a play 317 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: and rip the ball away. I cannot wait for when 318 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: Buddha Baker gets that first interception this season, because it 319 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: will happen with the way that the Cardinals use him. 320 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: That'll be my my one prediction. I know an underground 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: you guys had your predictions, That'll be my prediction. I'm 322 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: gonna say Budda Baker has two interceptions this year because 323 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: I do believe that the pressure that's going to be 324 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: generated from the defensive front, especially not just with Kalas 325 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: campbellor Dalvin Tomlinson, but because you know what, you have 326 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: your five technique, a guy like Darius Robinson that's going 327 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: to be able to get after the quarterback that's going 328 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: to be a sneaky player. I think that that's going 329 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: to put a lot of pressure on opposing quarterbacks and 330 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: they're going to have to throw it away. 331 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: If Bakers listen, I'm sure he loves hearing that. He's 332 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: made it clear he doesn't feel like quarterbacks like to 333 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: throw his way. When you're going into year three in 334 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: a scheme that also allows your players to play a 335 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: little more freely within the confinement of what's being asked 336 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: for them to do, which would you know in theory, 337 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: allow them to be a little more flexible and read 338 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: the expectation right, read what's going on with the offense, 339 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: and make a few more picks. Another exciting training can't Battle, 340 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and this is probably the most discussed on the offensive 341 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: side of the ball, given the continuity offensively in terms 342 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: of the players the play right This coaching staff, this 343 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: front office feels very strongly and very confidently about the 344 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: players in that room already. But we're talking about right guard. 345 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams played fifteen games as your right guard. Five 346 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: starts last year's rookie got some valuable reps. Four of 347 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: the five starters from Week one are returning now. Yes, 348 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Joanah Williams. Your right tackle got hurt Week one in Buffalo. 349 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So the only player who's not on this roster who 350 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: was Week one last year is right guard Will Hernandez. 351 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Where things stand right now, the day before players report, 352 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: is this Adam's job to lose? 353 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is. Now. That's not to say 354 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: that it's not going to be a competition, because the 355 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: Cardinals did spend in offseason bringing in some guys. Now 356 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't the Will Fryes of the world or the 357 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: players that I think we're leading the free agency market 358 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: because I don't think the Cardinals needed to invest because 359 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: they already invested a third round pick in to Isaiah Adams. 360 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: They have trust and confidence into him that you don't 361 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: need to throw all this money in free agency at 362 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: another offensive lineman. Isaiah Adams, he was asked if he's 363 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: ready for the moment, and he said without question. And 364 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: he talked about to us Danny about how his approach 365 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: has changed and the stuff he worked on during the 366 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: offseason getting his mind right for this twenty twenty five season. 367 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: I remember the beginning when you think back to those 368 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: training camp battles, the defensive line versus offensive line kind 369 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: of those Oklahoma type drills. Isaiah Adams did not farewell 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: on those in the very beginning, but as this season 371 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: went on, he started to work his way back into 372 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: a spot where he was comfortable. He's never played right 373 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: guard before. Up until last season, he moved all over 374 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: the offensive line at Illinois. He was a right tackle 375 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: of the year that he got drafted by the Cardinals, 376 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: so then they push him into the inside. He's learning 377 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: the position. But as I mentioned, the Cardinals did invest in, 378 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: it wasn't the big names. They brought in a guy 379 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: like Royce Newman, who played fifty two games in the NFL, 380 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last year, three 381 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: season with the Green Bay Packers. He has a lot 382 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 3: of starts. His first season started sixteen of the seventeen 383 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: games he played at right guard for the Packers in 384 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. So he's a player that the Cardinals 385 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 3: are going to be looking on the competition. Also, Hayden Connor, 386 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: who the Cardinals drafted in the sixth round out of Texas. 387 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: He's a three year starter over there with the Longhorn, 388 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: So he's somebody that a lot of people are going 389 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: to have their eyes on. He's also just a great character. 390 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: We love talking with Hayden. And then John Gains is 391 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: going to be another player, and I'm interested to see 392 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: what growth he has because of Justin Fry's familiarity with 393 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: him during their time at UCLA. 394 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: That's really the only change is your position coach and 395 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: bringing in Justin Fry this offseason. There's a lot of 396 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: competition in that offensive line room, and you need a 397 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of bodies. You need players that are versatile because 398 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: when you've got that many players in a position room 399 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: going out in the field every game day, you need 400 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: to be prepared for anything that's coming your way. The 401 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: thing about Isaiah Adams, though, is I liked when he 402 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: was talking to the media and what he was really 403 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: focused on this offseason was the mental side of things 404 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: and slowing the game down. When you mentioned that he 405 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily farewell last offseason and some one on one drills, 406 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: that's a normal progression for an offensive lineman. That's why 407 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: if you have somebody with the skill level of a 408 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: Paris Jaantson junior, that's why they are drafted so high 409 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: and they are so coveted in the first round of 410 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: the draft, because it takes a little bit of time 411 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: for the players to add muscle right, the strength and 412 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: work out, get their footwork right in all of those things. 413 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: So to see the progression from Adams and the fact 414 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: that one point and then the season last year he 415 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: was going through a rotation with Tristan Cologne and ended 416 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: up winning that competition battle, I am right there with you. 417 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: This is Adam's job to lose. Yes, there is a 418 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: lot of competition. That does not mean it is set 419 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: in stone. He has gotten some really valuable reps though, 420 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: And this point through the off season, you can only 421 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: see so much and T shirts and shorts. Now that 422 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: we're going to start seeing the pads and you can 423 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: really see the communication, the movement, the protection right how 424 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: you're going up against some nasty defensive lineman on this 425 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals roster. That's what's going to be telling. 426 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: And it's also the mental component of it. Isaiah Adams 427 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 3: wasn't drafted last year to be the guy. Last year. 428 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: It was supposed to be Will Hernandez, and obviously Will 429 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: went down with that knee injury in that week pretty 430 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: sure Week six game against the Green Bay Packers in 431 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 3: Rainy lambeau Field when will went down, and that's unfortunate, 432 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: but the best way you learn is by getting thrown 433 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: into the fire. And I think the best thing that 434 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: could have happened for Isaiah was getting thrown into the 435 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: fire because he had to mix it up a little bit. 436 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: And I remember speaking to him at the locker room 437 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: clear out and I asked him about just welcome to 438 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: the NFL moments. Everybody's got theirs, and that first welcome 439 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 3: to the NFL moment wasn't that game against the Green 440 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: Bay Packers when he got thrown into it. But he 441 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 3: said to me that at every moment throughout the season, 442 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: it's like a welcome to the NFL moment because you're 443 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: lining up across from somebody new every single time. When 444 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: you're lining up across from Big Cat Leonard Williams in 445 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: two out of three weeks against the Seattle Seahawks, you're 446 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: gonna learn a lot and you're gonna learn a lot 447 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: about yourself. And I think the Cardinals learned a lot 448 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: just in general from those two games against the Seattle 449 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: Seahawks that they're gonna be thinking about as the twenty 450 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: twenty five season comes about but yeah, Isaiah Adams definitely 451 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: has focused a lot on the mental side of it, 452 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: and I think too in the way that he speaks, 453 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: and we could psychoanalyze and overanalyze this as much as 454 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: we want. He looks a lot more confident just sitting 455 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: there at the podium. He came in and right away 456 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 3: made the joke and was like, I feel like I 457 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: haven't sat here in a year, and I was like, 458 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: so you missed us. He's like, yeah, a little bit. 459 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: But just seeing that, like that sense of happiness of 460 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: just being there and being ready for the moment, I 461 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 3: think is something that's gonna help him farewell this coming 462 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 3: training camp because last year he didn't know what he 463 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: was getting into going to training camp. 464 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: Adams was confident in his answers because he's now confident himself, 465 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: confident in his ability, confident what he has learned from 466 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: year one gearing up for year two. You also learned 467 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: a lot from Adams on his trip up north. He 468 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: went to Canada with some team members from our broadcast 469 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: department working up with the Snowbirds. The Cardinals stands up 470 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: in Canada, and he, I guess they have some boys 471 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: up in Canada, which is news to. 472 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 3: Me, and it was news to him too because he's 473 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: not from that area. But that was in Calgary, So 474 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams went on a trip. Basically, the NFL obviously 475 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: have their global marketing programs that they do, and the 476 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: Cardinals have had rights to promote the game in Mexico, 477 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: which they've obviously played against the San Francisco forty nine 478 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: ers there down south, and then you go up north. 479 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 3: The Cardinals were granted Canada as one of their territories 480 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: to promote the game at so he went out there, 481 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: and Isaiah Adams is from Canada himself, so to go 482 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: out there and return back home, he said, on a 483 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: football level, it was a nice reset for him to 484 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 3: go see his family and his friends and just be 485 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: back in a place that it was home to him. 486 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: But the NFL, Canada and the Cardinals they put together 487 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: a kids camp that Isaiah Adams helped run. They also 488 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: put together a meet and greet that he took part in, 489 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: and then they went to the Calgary Stampede, which is 490 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 3: supposedly one of the best and craziest ROADIO. I guess 491 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: up there a huge deal and I will say I 492 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 3: know that the photos haven't been posted, but there are 493 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: some photos with Isaiah and a cowboy hat and in 494 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: a full jump pursuit. 495 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: Is he given Zavon Collins a run for his money 496 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: with the cowboy hat? Now, because kind of a real cab. 497 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: Saan is a cowboy, but Isaiah you could tell, wanted 498 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 3: to be a cowboy. It's funny though. I think you 499 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: asked him if he took part in any of the 500 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: rodeo stunts and he said, like, now, the coaching staff, 501 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 3: you know, wouldn't let me, you know, take part in 502 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: that push. 503 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 504 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: So the Cardinals now have their you know, their Snowbird 505 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: fan club. Just got to go to Azycardinals dot com 506 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: to find out all the information because, especially for our 507 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: fans up north, the Cardinals are trying to grow the game. 508 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: So to be a member of the Snowbirds, you have 509 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: to be able to join the fan club. 510 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: And Zach wrote a pretty great story on that, so 511 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: you can check that out on our website. Okay, gearing 512 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: up for training? Can this is gonna be you know 513 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: the last cover two before we are out at State 514 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium. We've talked about right guard, We've talked about cornerbacks. 515 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: What is one other position battle you are most eager 516 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: to see shakeout. 517 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: Can we go back a second. You asked me zero 518 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: to ten, how am I feeling? How are you feeling? 519 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: Going on? 520 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. Eleven eleven and a half 521 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: out of ten. Look, the off season for us on 522 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: a personal level is nice to get a break from 523 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: the seven months of non stop. 524 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 525 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: You get to a point though, where you are just 526 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: itching for some to talk about. Right The players haven't 527 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: been in the building, the coaches haven't been in the 528 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: building for six weeks, So I am ready for some 529 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: football news, some football talk to get back into that routine. 530 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: So I'm ready. 531 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're definitely those moments where free agency comes. You know, 532 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: you have three weeks of new content to talk about, 533 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: and then it's dead, and then you have the draft 534 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: and then it's dead, and then Mini camp and then 535 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: it's dead. So now we're excited to no longer be 536 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: in the dead period and get back to training camp. 537 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: And to answer you the question, the competition almost looking 538 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 3: forward to probably at Green Dot. I know that that's 539 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: a question we might not get answered right away, but 540 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 3: I do cause we know that the way Nick Rolis 541 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 3: likes to call his defense and the way they like 542 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: to practice. Every inside linebacker has access to the green 543 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: Dot during practice, so they all practiced and are able 544 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: to jump into things. So that's why in the twenty 545 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: twenty three season, when Kayzier White went down with the 546 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: injury and then Chris Barnes went down with the injury, 547 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: everybody was able to slide in and there wasn't really 548 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: a drop off at that spot because everybody is practiced 549 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: and has experience with it. But I think that spot 550 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: is going to be what I'm most interested in. What 551 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 3: is a Keem Davis Gathers role? The Cardinals were very 552 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: interested in the team and brought him in very early 553 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: on during the free agency process. What did they see 554 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: from a guy who has played mostly special teams throughout 555 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: his time with the Cincinnati Bengals. What did they see 556 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: that potentially gives them confidence and hope that he could 557 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: take over the green dot spot. What about a guy 558 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: like Cody Simon as an inside linebacker coming from the 559 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: Ohio State Buck guys where he has experience with the 560 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: green dot communication system over there, And then I mentioned 561 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: him earlier, Owen Papo is going to be another guy 562 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: his familiarity with Nick Rowlis is going to bode very 563 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: well for him, especially with a team and Cody being 564 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 3: new faces. 565 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: That was gonna be my answer as well. For a 566 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: position we have to But if if we're looking in general, 567 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: I would say I am setting up shop. When pads 568 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: come on and we are seeing offensive lineman and defensive 569 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: lineman go head to head, I think that is going 570 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: to be a site to be seen. When you're looking 571 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: at the continuity of this offensive line, you're looking at 572 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: the pieces that have been brought in. Truthfully, though, you 573 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: can go through every position and you can find something 574 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: that you're going to be keeping your eye on. Is 575 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson the for sure number two wide receiver in 576 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: that room? We haven't even talked about the backup quarterback 577 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: battle you bring in Jacoby Brissett this offseason, going head 578 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: to head with Clayton Tune. When you're looking at the 579 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: safety's room and we're talking about big picture numbers. Joey 580 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: Blunt is a safety and has been a special team's ace. 581 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: What about Rabbit and is his role going to increase 582 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: going from a rookie to year two? A lot of 583 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: question marks again, Cardinals fans you can come out and 584 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: see how things shake out for yourself. There's ten open practices, 585 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: first one Thursday, July twenty fourth. You can get your 586 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: free tip tickets, free parking passes on Azycardinals dot com. 587 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: We are going to have tons, when I say tons 588 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: of podcasts, articles, interviews, TV shows, everything you could imagine 589 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: covering training camp from State Farm Stadium. So you can 590 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: stay locked in at Asycardinals dot com. Zach, it's football time. 591 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: It's time. 592 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: Maybe Craig will come back in time for training camp. 593 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: We'll see. 594 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: Time will tell report days tomorrow, so he's got. 595 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: To be here, yeah, so we'll see. Yeah, that includes 596 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: you to Craig reporting on Tuesday. Thanks so much guys 597 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: for tuning into this edition of Cardinals Cover two